This 4WD could catch fire any second... The 12V Mistakes DIYers make that you need to avoid!

[@jesse199377]

Alot of people have missed exactly what this video is the title doesnt say anything about heres how to do a cheap 12v setup it says here are the mistakes diyers do in there 12v setup good on them for upgrading one of there mates cars to redarc and properly done wiring

[@overlandready]

Yeah, but what they have actually done is not "how to wire it properly" but "how to ditch what you have and buy a Redarc system to put in". It has not actually addressed a lot of "how to fit the system correctly" as there are actually a lot of errors and poor advice. It would have been better to do the "how to make the old system safe", do it on the bench, then give their buddy a full redarc system if they want as a "but this is what you could also do!".

[@robertfrey3607]

@overlandready I liked this show before they went commercial. It used to be about the adventure, not selling over priced goods. I'm in the U.S. and the average "Joe" can't afford to drop $15,000 on an aluminum, decked out canopy and $3000 on a Redarc system.

[@TonyTony-rd4rj]

Not to mention this set up is over $3000 and thsts not including labour and not everyone had that kind of money.

[@JulioMacarena]

Yeah, noticed that. Not really about teaching us how to make a DIY setup, but how to spend $4000 on an amazing setup. Some good (but basic) cable tips, though.

[@slicer181]

I've read your comment 10 times and I still don't understand what you are commenting XD

[@dekaOsiris]

Redarc maketing video. Many of the 4WD community cannot afford it. What would have been better is a rework of the existing setup, would have been a little more relatable for most. Still a nice job in the end..

[@4wd4mentalhealth58]

Great info but I can't afford to put a Redarc system in my car. I do have the same control box as was originally in this vehicle so it would have be nice to see you get all that system sorted as it needs to be too make that safe.

[@TreadsTravels]

They forgot to mention that this was a paid presentation for Redarc....

[@NathanSchilling1]

Ben has worked on my 80 and 63 Fairlane a few times. Absolute legend as is this company, they always go out of their way to track down products and great customer service.

[@phillipdavidson2334]

As someone who fixes alloy trays every day I c people doing all that work on there 12v sys only for me to cut it up because I have to take the canopy of to fix the tray so don't hard wire through the tray into the canopy use a joiner between the veichael and the canopy 12:47

[@davidjustice9036]

Great to see a Triton making an appearance, I have the RedArc system in mine and it is awesome

[@RyanLiedtke]

As an Electrician, It seems like they did their mate a solid and Caught the mistakes before a major failure occurred. Maybe the 4K they spent was the expensive way to go, but I reckon that’s cheaper than replacing said Mate’s Ute.

[@LostandFoundTravel]

Amp - Distance - Gauge chart is the bible for this work.

[@Warhorse469]

Although the main focus of the video is on how to correctly wire a 12-volt system, it would be helpful to see it done on a budget system as well. RedArc may be the best in the market, but most of us cannot afford a $3,539.01 12-volt system. However, many of us still want to go on adventures and have a great time while staying safe on the tracks.

[@Mister510]

So rather than show how to actually fix up a budget 12v system (like 99.9% of your viewers run) to make it safe you just threw $4k worth of electronics at it, and paid a shop to install it? You should have titled this video "How To Spend $5k Replacing Your 12v System"

[@subtleinfluence9478]

Brother you don’t intimidate me

[@motortrack7903]

I believe they did fella,told you how to crimp, how to fuse, how to run wire safely, how to use good earths, more then enough info to run your own 12v but also presented an alternative and the benifits of the system.

[@confuzsays7196]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@confuzsays7196]

​@@motortrack7903nice suck job

[@claydonald180]

they’re just telling people not to be dodgy cunts

[@simonmartin7698]

Please get Zac to go on a trip with you lot and make a episode out of it 🙏 I'm a Triton owner and would like to see more Triton content please guys !! They're a great vehicle, very capable and alot cheaper then Toyota's and Nissan's etc ... Please guys , PLEASE !!!! Cheers 🍻

[@Tritonsnapper]

Triton= Shiton

[@e.c.8668]

Taking this week off to wire up the second battery. It's good to see that I'm in the ballpark for wire gages. Can't afford the Redarc stuff, so going really simple. Using a LiTime 40A DCDC charger to a 50Ah battery. Fuses everywhere. Just taking it nice and slow to get it right. I'll have some USBA and C plugs as well as some Anderson 50A and 30A available in the truck for high-power accessories down the road. I also have a small fuse panel for wiring LED lights. Then hopefully it'll be to hit a mountain ridge for an overnighter to see how it works in the bush.

[@ramireznico]

A professional and secure installation… clean job! This guys understand very well the electrical components and the correct installation. Is 4x4 car that most handle situations of rugged roads vibrations and too much humidity in some others… Great JOB!

[@mattychambers8063]

I get the point of the video, but it would be great to see a poor man’s set up installed correctly. Not everyone can afford top shelf equipment. Plus a “12v system for dummies” tutorial videos would be great also. I’m trying to understand all this but have no clue. Keep up the awesome work, love the channel, I have learnt a lot (to be honest, I knew sweet FA before I started watching). Have a Merry Christmas and most of all be safe out there.

[@tomskimcdouglegaming806]

Do you know how to search on KZbin? There's dozens and dozens of those videos already published by channels other than these clowns.

[@dw2176]

the poor man pays twice!

[@richardwalsh5570]

Good explanation of correct installation procedures 👍

[@paraengr0770]

Excellent presentation of what right looks like, I definitely picked up some pointers, Thanks🤙

[@Christian76S]

oh and the safety hammer in the canopy really tops it off!

[@FrancoisBadenhorst]

One of the best videos I have come across in a long time.. thank you! Please let me know the different mm cables you used for this setup as well as all the different size (mm) lugs used? I paused the video in a few places but was not able to tell. Thanks guys!! I will be doing my own DYI project soon..

[@johnnumbat9782]

Thanks folks - good advice and I’ve been able to my apply my avionics background to ensure a safe, reliable and robust 12V setup which I’ve been installing for over two years now - never never use soldered joints as these will eventually crack or open circuit due to long term vibrations - all our aircraft joints were crimped only and insulated - soldered items were only used in electronic instruments boards which are also used in battery management and monitoring systems - I’m using Redarc systems, Amptron Lithium batteries and Engel refrigeration - final stage three to commence Jan 2024 to include Inverter, water pump, shower and solar blankets - make sure you also have a good accessible fuse system to protect everything and handy fire extinguishers.

[@cyclemoto8744]

I don't know the cable length used for the main battery to DCDC charger, however 8 BMS seems undersized to me unless the cable length is no more than 3 metres which I find highly improbable.

[@dronewa]

I used 4 B&S for mine, minimum according to Enerdrive was 6 B&S for a 40A system, not sure how they came up with 8 as a standard

[@danielflinn3571]

Thanks boys

[@Jake_94]

As an auto electrician, I think I had about 5 heart attacks watching this

[@loispita21]

Happy Birthday Shauno! 🥳 have a awesome day and a mean night mate

[@anthonypuddicombe3152]

Some great advice.👍

[@jonnewton5929]

Lithium battery box. 120ah Lithium battery. 40amp charger, 200+ solar panel. For dual zone fridge/freezer. Few camp lights. And maybe a small inverter for battery tools. Hoping it will be enough

[@mrfordfairmont]

the bet way to do a 12v second battery system is run 2 fuses (one at front one near second battery)on the cable from main to dcdc so it that wire rubs you don't have fire with the back feed!

[@overlandready]

Correct, fuses are there to protect the cables, not the equipment. Should have one fuse as close to the power source as sensibly possible, then one before any charging equipment that the cable goes to, another by the dommestic battery. can't have too many fuses. Also worth considering that over about 6ft wires can become heating elements, My build is fused every about 6ft as it has distribution boxes under driver's seat, and rear seats for 12v stuff. battery is under passenger seat.

[@beakfish7319]

That's looking way better! Very nice!

[@liamthelolzer]

Really appreciate and enjoy these kinds of video’s, I know nothing about electronic but will be getting a RedArc installed next year and this information will definitely be useful. Any plans to go more in depth and show how to wire in fridges and lights?

[@kradius2169]

Great content. Thank you. If I may: 15:08 ... Custom cover is a 10 on looks ... just wondering for the Manager30 & TVMS Rogue -- mounting orientation optimal per the manuals, but whether they should have more open space above & around for heat dissipation? Anyway, thanks again for the content.

[@joecat101]

Do you guy's like Solderstick connections. They are connectors, blade terminals, ring terminals ect that have solder inside and shrink tube outside so when heated the wires are soldered and sealed at the same time, no crimping.

[@pewpew2400]

No gland in the back of the canopy? Is there a reason for it? I mean I'm no expert just asking on it - cheers

[@pablowvangreenlow7430]

A little bit out of touch with the viewers too busy trying to score points with redarc...

[@stevenchambers754]

I would love a redarc electrical system in my ranger ,keep the video's coming Steve from the UK

[@DukeMartin06]

great vid. DIY 12 volt install is still a daunting process I'd defo want one of my sparky mates there to help.

[@jrp6799]

I dunno commenters hating so much.. 4wd 24/7 dudes just showing how to do the basics correctly while upgrading their employees system. Cmon dudes. Top job and also educational.

[@Clean_Outdoors_Project]

this is a great video I learned a lot

[@HammerRocks]

I'll need to do some reseach to find out the difference between the Redarc TVMS1280 vs the TVMS Rogue.

[@grumblesaw4415]

well. I'm installing the budget build into a old caravan to run the CPAP, charge phones, maybe some light and 12v to cool the fridge. ultimate goal Mundi Mundi Bash.

[@leighchamberlain25]

Where do I get the Russell Coight stickers?

[@danielbruce45]

Can you replace that or any 12v system with a portable power station like a bluetti or something similar??

[@Reaper-3000]

Aquaman looks pretty stoked

[@brendanm6360]

Take a drink every time old mate says “basically”

[@chrislewis7402]

lol and earth.

[@chrislewis7402]

Great work. Seen so many DIY jobs with no fuses. Just one thing. Dc car work it’s a negative not earth. Earth is for AC

[@CanOfBundy]

Thank you. At least I’m not the only one who was annoyed with that.

[@masaw7187]

Wow, it seems like the main point of the video was missed by a lot of you folks. Ok, so they installed Red Arc,which, yes, is expensive. If you can't afford it , what does it matter. The point is "DO IT CORRECTLY ". Great video guy's. By the way, I can't afford RED ARC either, but I am saving up for a system. Have a great day, folks.

[@TonyMontana-bo8ne]

Love all the videos shauno ❤

[@WogChilli]

5kw 48v system for me mainly for induction cooking

[@79series]

Number 1 rule. Don't cut zip ties and leave that little sharp bit.

[@matthewpeck6491]

I've just gone a victron has 100amp lithium and few other bits and pieces. Running a 800w inverter. Question is should I go a larger inverter or will the 800 be enough to run things like a kettle, toaster just small appliances List of things I have Battery 30a dc charger 20a solar charger 712 bmv battery monitor Plus sockets usb and aux power outlet on circuit breakers

[@matthewpeck6491]

I'm new to all this, hasn't been installed yet, so still learning.

[@georgescott6967]

Have a look at the power rating written on your kettle and toaster (probably on the bottom). If they are standard household ones I would expect them both to be over 800W - toaster maybe 1200W, kettle maybe 1500W. I have seen little car kettles that run off 12V but have heard that they take a long time (30 minutes) to boil water.

[@barntt]

When choosing ANY fuse you size the fuse to protect THAT wire. If you fuse for the load and the wire isn't big enough it will burn up and cause a fire.

[@spankmonkeystudios8256]

What kind of battery is that?

[@ramireznico]

One question are redarc components water proof??

[@panos8444]

Pros and cons, chassis earth or main battery earth?

[@solarforfuture]

need a rogue!

[@JustBetter13]

What crimpers is he using? Chasing a good set.

[@jackscott4616]

Love ur channel ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@benjaminpayten6004]

Would love to upgrade the outdated system in my jayco swan with this system

[@SamoanFarmer]

I wouldn't mind a 12V system in my triton 😂

[@robertfrey3607]

It's much cheaper to ditch that crap and go CAMPING. I've traveled all over wilderness areas with a sketchy old truck, a cooler, tent, and a coleman stove.

[@colonel-1997]

can we see more ctek gear and options. redarc is to expensive for my my budget. especially since I'm building 12v for my car and trailer

[@theunskoch7406]

Hi , I just want to run a Engel Combi fridge in my trailer of it's own battery , which will be charged by solar. Advise pse.

[@LiamMcNamara-Barnett]

What size is the active cable from the start battery to the canopy ?

[@rexie1999]

8B&S

[@kradius2169]

My unqualified $0.02 only. Cable from starter battery to Manager30 should be: -- 6B&S -- 10:35 ... I stopped & zoomed in -- looks like a 50A fuse at starter battery ... which would agree with the Manager30 Manual's "typical setup" diagram. End of the day, cable needs to, among other things: 1 > Ampacity Cable must meet the ampacity of it's over current protection device, in this case a 50A fuse. 2 > Voltage Drop Cable must have minimal voltage drop carrying 50A load over its length. 3% votage drop is apparently strived for in boating for essential loads. Googling the handy Blue Sea Systems ampacity table, apparenty based on the ABYC's E-11, which seems to jive with the NEC's "free air" ampacities ... cable size should be: 6B&S ... fused @ 50A, run for 15-20 feet.

[@RobWalsh-l2m]

I tossed out my Projecta Powerhub. It was good but just didnt work. I have installed a dmallish Hardcor management system, mounted by Mppt for solar and my battery and so far so good. I did run over all the cables with a multi meter. I have 2 fuses in line so thats all good. What I found were my dosgy crimps. So the next job is to grab a decent crimper and get that sorted. I did all my checks before watching. Annoyed my son who is a high voltage lecco in the mines. Drives him nutz.

[@ValRigoli]

Sadly the 8 B&S cable is still way too small for connecting that system from the start battery to the Redarc dual battery system, way too small, the voltage drop across that cable under load will severely limit the available charging current! 6 B&S must be used at a minimum, while even larger cable would be much better. Even the Redarc installation manual for that setup specifies 4 B&S cable in this case, and that is 2.5 times larger cable than what they have used!

[@rexie1999]

8B&S will be fine for up to 20A 5-6m distance. I missed what charger they put in there, if it's anything over 20A, yes, it's too small. In saying that, I'd always go next size up especially as you're so close to the limit. No need for 4B&S unless it's a high current charger

[@overlandready]

@@rexie1999 30A output on the chargeing side, so then there is the additions for the losses and system workings plus any other loads. I'd anticipate a 50A+ inrush current as well on the system. I'd have liked to see something like 25mm² cable on the positive and the negative to the chassis, and uprated the battery ground too...

[@petearvo]

​@@rexie1999they were using a 50 amp midi fuse on that.

[@stephangrobler5524]

Great content as always. Question: what must one do if there is a electrical fire or find a vehicle next to the road with a electrical fire? See a lot of vehicles these days that have caught fire due to poor electric connections.

[@4WD247]

Fire extinguisher every time! Never use water. Baking soda is a commonly used item to put out electrical fires also!

[@andrewlangford88]

Get the battery(s) disconnected asap. Even if it means taking wire cutters to the wires. Realistically a small fire extinguisher isn't going to stop the fire unless you've run small cables. Something like an 8bns cable is going to burn for ages before the connection gets broken

[@andrewlangford88]

​@@4WD247also if water is all you've got it's going to do a better job than nothing

[@iancarter1917]

Not everyone can afford the full redarc. Good advice tho, just wish they would show how to make safe for the people on a budget.

[@drmarkintexas-400]

MERRY CHRISTMAS 🛐🎅🤶🎄🦌🦌🦌☃️🥶❄️🙏

[@4WD247]

Merry Christmas!!

[@richardclarke207]

Do not use Mini fuses for main protection, use ANL, or better still class-t fuse. The mini fuse can be pull 2.5X its current rating to blow! Thats if it actually breaks the circuit at all!! Look into AIC (Ampere Interupt capacity) and you’ll understand why.

[@dutteridge]

Shauno I don’t think I’m qualified enough to do my own 12v wiring. I think I’ll leave it to the professionals. I don’t want to risk my car burning to the ground 😂

[@andrewretsas5589]

Did my own 12V setup in my Wrangler and caravan and camper trailer. 15 years in and no problem. And I am not mechanically or electrically minded. I use good mid range gear, take care to insulate all wiring against shorting and rubbing etc. Use the thickest wiring I have to ensure power drop etc. Shit tighten every bolt etc. Fuse everything. Never had a problem. This is just another advertorial.

[@andyoutback6336]

I will b the first to say red arc is the best of the best and kings is worst of the worst. Common shuno b honest u didnt start with top of the line red arc (if you did I will happily stand corrected) mayb we should b looking at how to make a kings kit safe. Just an idea apart from that a great demo on install........oh I c what u did, ur playing the utube algorithm, I take it back well done hat's off

[@Kana-ij5jl]

Yeah the boys

[@idiggold]

Never solder, always crimp.

[@ashleym2878]

My car will make you cry seeing the wiring. I pulled out probably a few kilometres of wires when I bought it. Every time the previous owner changed something he just spliced into old wires leaving ks of wires going to nothing with wires ready to short at the ends. Still a heap of mess I don't have time or money to sort out

[@4WD247]

Yikes!

[@Aussiem8e]

That redarc system is worth more than the triton! 😂

[@johnmadsen37]

If you don’t need to re-insulate your wires each time, the wires too large. 😊

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

I wonder what an auto sparky would make of my system? I think he would probably pass out LOL

[@DENMONKEY]

Generic pre-wired box ? You mean a kings ? If you're going to critique the rest of the system don't let that go past without mention.

[@hoani1000]

Shauno got anything most of us can afford ?

[@stevekight1955]

Can we assume that the battery is a Lithium unit? All the new equipment is useless without a good battery backing it up.

[@4WD247]

Yes Lithium

[@andrewtilburg1942]

Ya looking at $3500 just for those 3 items from redarc sadly not everyone can afford that, no one will be able to afford it with the prices going through the roof

[@craigquann]

NO ZIP TIES!!! WHAT KINDA HACK DOESN'T USE ZIP TIES! LOL

[@jamie11greeN]

One HUGE thing missed... a cover for the battery!!!

[@mikefriis2502]

instead of "just" trowing new redarc at it, a LOT of people would get a lot more usefull information if you had kept his system, lots of people can't afford this (really great) stuff, and thats why they build it themselves, trow away ALL the bad wiring, but keep the compnents and show how to wire it up the right way

[@bradmullaerialphotography]

His driving a triton so probably couldn’t afford like most of us a brand new red arc system.

[@KiaraScown-e4w]

Ur channel is amazing coming is great thanks for doing this

[@cameronbreytenbach6359]

Thats why I dont really like 12 volt systems. Rather use something else and keep my pride and joy not burnt

[@oldbloke204]

Same. More stuff to go wrong and some of them are so expensive/complex it sort of defeats the purpose of calling it camping imo. Also dragging all that weight around the whole time. I can go away for a week and get away with just using a couple of phone power banks for lights and charging my phone and they can be easily charged via a small solar panel or the vehicle. Also 18v power tool batteries can be multi tasked as well. Really the only thing I'm missing out on is a fridge so I make do with a quality esky and ice. Obviously a different thing if spending weeks in the bush and needing a fridge but there's always ways to get around these things.

[@cameronbreytenbach6359]

Thats why shaun,graham all the boys are going to learn 1 day

[@oldbloke204]

@@cameronbreytenbach6359 I actually think that those all in one power pack, solar generator, things would be a decent option for many people. Run a decent power cable to where they are in the vehicle so they charge more efficiently and away you go. They can also be taken out of the vehicle easily to be used for other things when you're not camping. Pretty big and bulky for a decent sized one but given what some spend on these systems they're likely a lot cheaper too.

[@Cruiserkoby]

Hey shouno your an awesome guy perfect with cars but please dont get a mulet thats just in my opinion ok 😊

[@ShaunOfficial-d4d]

Ohhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhh okkkk

[@Ozzycamping]

Toyota Memes is where it's at 👍

[@Dealy12]

Its sad that people will spend so much money on a vehicle only to half ass their setup and gear. Will never make sense to me

[@veliksami]

Nice and simple, very basic setup, it only costs thousands of dollars! 😂

[@Cruiserkoby]

Btw I LOVE that your a TOYOTA MAN

[@Golden-69]

Why do you all call it earth wire when you have 4 rubbers between it... hum

[@JFTM_]

I’m so confused by most of these comments. Where did they claim this was budget? Where did they say you need redarc to get out there? A lot of people can afford it, this is relevant. Overkill for the setup? Yeah definitely. You’re pissed off that; they gave good info on how to correct do 12V wiring with stuff you can’t afford? Sounds like a you problem brother

[@brianjones5062]

Anyone else notice the crack in the chassis 🤔

[@JJ04608]

where in the video?

[@brianjones5062]

12.40

[@charlie8003]

That’s not a crack, it’s a shadow line from the weld.

[@barntt]

Unless your going to DONATE the equipment just fix what the owner already paid for!

[@choppadan126]

People are bagging this a bit - not sure why - its good to show what not to do. It would have been good also to show a more affordable solution at least equal to what was in there. In case you want to do another one of these educational snips - feel free to come fix (em...replace) my cheap arse system any time you like 👍 Cheers

[@hotwings9382]

Without the accent, Australia feels just like south Africa. Not sure how life would be as a black man there

[@dallasteasdale7902]

Everyone sooking about the red arc gear completely missed the point of the video

[@cptwiggy44]

And what was the point? To run a fridge and a couple lights just throw 5g at a 12v system?

[@HardstylePete]

They did show anything other than how to spend 5k. Nobody has learnt anything from this.

[@jameswomsley2107]

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