This Anime is Offensive

Special thanks to me for making this video. Oh yeah, and all of the people it would be literally impossible without, such as @CorridorCrew @mothersbasement and @AaronBlaiseArt . The videos in question are right down below.
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Mother's Basement: • AI "Anime" - An Insult...
Corridor: • ANIME ROCK, PAPER, SCI...
Aaron Blaise: • Disney Animator REACTS...
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0:00 Intro
1:26 Mother's Basement
1:53 "It's Not Art"
6:01 Tech is Evil
9:36 Misplaced Aggression
16:24 The Solution
21:37 The End!
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I feel odd about doing my whole tags at the end of the description shtick with this particular video, so I'll change it up. By far, my favorite part of this video was doing the cute little farm animal animations. I was so elated with each and every one. I look at this stuff and go, "haha. Chicken!" I look at what I've done and say, "Aww, now they're hugging". You know what? You're a good listener, I think I'm comfortable using tags around you. So yeah this video is about Ai generated anime, mother's basement made this video that got the gears in my head turning. That's about all.
-scamboli reviews signing out

[@mothersbasement]

I was all hyped up to timestamp 50 different spots in this video like we were arguing on Reddit, but I think you made a lot of valid points. I did get mad and let feeling carry me through writing a reaction, rather than solution to the problem. And a lot of it ended up being directed, unfairly, at corridor and people who like their stuff, when the focus really should have been on 1) the shady companies building AI training Datasets from stolen art rather than the public domain and 2) companies like wit studio and Netflix who are already using generative AI to replace people The most important thing I missed is - as you said - a real solution. Luckily, there are people working towards one. I can’t link it in a YT comment, but google “concept artist association AI Art” - they’re raising money via GoFundMe to lobby for regulations on AI training data and how AI can be used in productions. IMO the proposed policies make a lot of sense. .

[@bobono]

wait wit uses ai?

[@nxm4416]

Great stuff on this comment right here.

[@mothersbasement]

Oh, and for the record, social stigma has actually curbed the market for NFTs in the US… it just hasn’t had any effect on China, Hong Kong, or Singapore where sales are still booming.

[@ScamboliReviews]

Based as fuck, thanks for your comment OG!

[@DPG_70.]

I love refrigerators

[@mumkeymaan4600]

You're afraid of AI because it might allow big corporations to yeet hard-working animators off the payroll. I'm afraid of AI because I don't trust myself not to generate my own Zootopia porn. *We are not the same.*

[@asdf30111]

Your thinking far too small, with new extensions, you can add your self to Zootopia, or add Zootopia to your room. For example I *might* of taking a selfie of myself in my underwear and had the AI convert me into Puro from the game changed. Now I have a picture of Puro himself in undies sitting on my bed... on second thought maybe you should be afraid.

[@DudeOnTheInternett]

I am not afraid but I am concerned. Are you okay?

[@Murpler]

You guys are down BAD

[@Pandemomium4Life]

This is why Aliens don’t come here. They’re afraid of being sexualized by you weirdos.

[@ScamboliReviews]

No. No, we're much the same.

[@Murpler]

Guys, this might sound crazy, but what if we use AI to make the animation for isekais, and the animators can then use their precious life and time to work on anime’s that’s more important?

[@flamgirlantquanxi]

YES PLEASE

[@KillerDoh]

Isekai is more important

[@Dinklr]

This is the first good argument for why ai anime is a good thing.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@KillerDoh The only good isekai is Escaflowne.

[@ididsomeunspeakablethingsa4899]

@@KillerDoh same shit

[@generalfishcake]

I work at a large game studio (the parent company owns about 15 studios). My boss got all hyped up about Stable Diffusion - so he trained a model based on one of my colleagues' art styles. Most of the works he used were "done for the company", others were grabbed from his ArtStation. The boss put his own name on the model + the name of the artist. He claims this model was trained on stuff done for work, and the company owns it. It's very difficult for my colleague to prove which work the model was trained on, as the output images are a mix of many pictures in a somewhat consistent style. So the question of theft and copyright is more murky than you might think.

[@GamerSisters]

Thats super awful, but also this is why AI is scary specifically in the hands of big companies.

[@Archtew]

As far as I know in the U.S. didn't the court declare that A.I. art is not copyright protected?

[@zreptrapl3958]

technically the Ai generated is using the art drawn by your colleagues so if it's more like a royalty right. They cant claim it but they did help to create so they will have royalty. It's like actors having % of the profit as royalty for their roles.

[@generalfishcake]

@@zreptrapl3958 Assuming they can prove it, and prepare for a lengthy legal battle with their employer. For many people, suing an employer could mean bad future job prospects, if the employers are in close contact with each other.

[@LaNoir.]

I can't see how any court would call this a legal procedure when that boss basically used work of your colleague to get him fired but keep his skill. If they asked him for permission and keep paying him what they paid him before, go for it, but this is identity theft, and no boss has the right to do this to their workers. What really makes me mad is that if this would happen in the movie industry, copying a famous' actors face and using it for movies without consent, people would set social media on fire. I don't get why artists, the most underpaid and overworked species on this planet, get so much shit to eat from people that can't live without their work.

[@SlurpyPie]

As an artist myself I don't think the problem is with AI itself but more so on people and (mostly) corporations abusing it for their own financial gain by stealing art and such. (Like you said in the video) Corridor Crew still put tons of prep and work into the video itself compared to tons of AI artist who literally put a prompt through to generate an image and then claim they're an artist there's such a huge difference between the two, but I definitely don't blame artist for being worried about AI.

[@sunlessshadow9498]

Save for the fact they used other peoples art & anime/animation to make that AI learn the style they used in the anime they made So yknow using other people’s work with no permission :/

[@SlurpyPie]

@@sunlessshadow9498 They acknowledged that and decided to ask permission from another artist as well as commission him to draw art for them. I get where you're coming from and I would agree but considering that they acknowledged it, owned up to it and hired an actual artist for their video is alot more consideration than what an AI "artist" would've done so I let it pass.

[@christianbrown4304]

"God put me on this earth to talk about stuff I know nothing about" had me floored.

[@natsudragneelthefiredragon]

Congress and tiktok ceo 💀

[@DaKdawg]

It's why I follow scamboli. My sides in orbit. Love it.

[@zenz_bro]

Sounds like Twitter in a nutshell

[@rhemie2114]

"God put me on this earth to talk about things I know nothing about' might be my favourite quote of all time

[@boredartist225]

I am a hobbyist artist. AI did a lot to instill a little fear, concern and self doubt in the purpose in using my talent or skill for anything beyond personal entertainment. This video just gave me so much hope and an amazingly better understanding of what this could mean for artists - and that it doesn’t have to be bad! - and I am not even halfway through the video. Thanks a googol.

[@KryptLynx]

You can use AI for inspiration (seriously, it really good at imagining things, only to make a some stupid mistake like 3 arms). You can use AI to make things you can't do yourself yet. Who said AI must replace artists? Why it can't be used *by* artists?

[@shjilz]

​@@KryptLynxAll of us artists want it to be as innocent as that and there's no issue with taking inspiration from it! But the issue comes when non-artists use ai as a """cheap replacement""" for real art. The issues with ai generation in creative mediums are all quite literally only caused by capitalism (in capitalism: worth as a human = efficiency, so, ai worker > human worker)

[@SaltyMaud]

@@shjilz This "non-artists using AI" talk is pretty dismissive and gatekeepy and relates to the petty argument of "AI art is not art". All it does is makes the anti-AI movement seem like a bunch of stuck up idiots who don't respect the skill, time and effort of AI artists - AI doesn't do much without a human using it to reach _their_ creative vision. AI is not a replacement to artists, but a tool that empowers artists. It doesn't so much replace existing workflows as it makes possible new ones.

[@AngelSaintCloud]

I would assume that being a hobbyist would be self-explanatory in your title. You're doing it because you enjoy it. Otherwise it is just work. Capitalism and art don't mix because it's entirely subjective. Your zootopia oc might be worth 5 dollars on Twitter but if banksy drew the same thing it would be worth almost a billion dollars.

[@KryptLynx]

@@AngelSaintCloud eeeh... it is not zootopia oc. I happened to... interact with furries something like 10 years ago. This image is not even done by me. But you are correct in part there I do generate AI images for fun. None on them are published, though. I would say, it is pretty hard to generate proper not "cursed" image. Personally for me the main hindrance is exactly the lack of practical artistic skills.

[@YowLife]

No self-respecting animator will tell you they genuinely enjoying the process of animating. While we absolutely relish the end product, it's no secret that the labor and time involved can be quite overwhelming. If there's a way to streamline this process, you can be certain that we're more than eager to explore every avenue to make it happen.

[@impasta1682]

You do have a point. Animation can definitely be overwhelming with the possibility of death from overwork. But there are quite a lot of animators who *do* enjoy the animation process. But other than that, it's true that effective shortcuts can be very useful for animation.

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

Self respecting animator here, you're wrong. It depends on the animation work, the finished product and the work involved are one and the same. You can't have one without the other if you want good work. And frankly if I ever animated a scene so poorly as corridors "anime" I'd never make anything competent.

[@13RedCorpse]

@@gibsonflyingv2820 "You can't have one without the other". Yeah, but the one (process) can be made easier to make the other (result) better.

[@LaNoir.]

AI always was meant to make things easier, but now it's replacing people and stealing their skills. There shouldn't even be a discussion when content was taken without consent, scrap the shit and start on a voluntary basis. If I would start a chocolate bar business based on 10 billion chocolate bars I stole, the affected companies would not say "nice shot mate, you do you!"

[@tumescent]

Speak for yourself lmao. No self-respecting creator automatically assumes that every one of their peers must also despise their work process

[@Maribro4]

I love how this meteoric rise in AI generation is being spearheaded by horny weebs

[@thtb]

You mistake you personally taking note of it with its meteoric rise.

[@cirn9386]

What war and lust have in common is the fact that they both lead in various development breakthroughs in a way or another

[@catnip202xch.]

most innovations come by due to people being horny

[@samuelkibunda6960]

*Explosive rise

[@iamstupid323]

HELLLL YAHHH !!!!! LETTTS GOOOO I can feel my parents dissapointed in me...

[@jordanrob999]

The other day I watched an AI generated video where Trump called Biden’s parents dying of old age a skill issue. The argument that AI is not art took a massive blow that day.

[@attemptedoptimist3560]

Link?

[@mgr1458]

Link?

[@jordanrob999]

Aight I found it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYHMeaRvhbFqsK8

[@zachrabaznaz7687]

AI didn't write that video, AI only voiced it. Whoever wrote it is the artist, AI is only the medium!

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@zachrabaznaz7687 I guarantee you the GPT-4 API was capable of writing that script (not the neutered 'safe' version of available through Bing or GPT-plus) Admittedly, it would require careful prompting which could be considered an art unto itself, but it's a distinct art from scriptwriting

[@baitposter]

9:17 There are stories of this already happening. Artists are already being phased out in professional settings by Midjourney prompters. Best case scenario from one of those stories is that the artist kept their job, but suddenly wasn't using their skill anymore, and their less proficient coworker was suddenly on par with them as a prompter. They became equally expendable. The art equivalent of the great equalizer that guns are for combat. Tangentially related, also have at T B Skyen's video on the topic

[@christofferrasmussen6533]

Fist fight: Winner is who fights better Gun fight: Winner is who aims better What the fuck is the difference? Great equalizer my ass 😆

[@LaNoir.]

@@christofferrasmussen6533 Brain fight: Winner is-oh, Winner by default?

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@christofferrasmussen6533 An old grandma with one foot on the grave can't possibly win against a well trained martial artist but if both of them have guns at point blank the who wins is the one who shots first.

[@xShadowChrisx]

@@christofferrasmussen6533 Equalizer means more equal than before. A woman before could not resist a man 9/10 without a firearm. Now she has a chance to catch an attacker off guard. It's not about aiming better, but first.

[@GingeryGinger]

@@christofferrasmussen6533real fight: who has a gun.

[@jonathansmith846]

I need a part 2 now lol, Love these video essays.

[@GurtMan100]

I love those transitions so much. A cow with sunglasses, a chicken in Vogue. I'm dying.

[@ScamboliReviews]

THANK YOU ME TOO!!

[@lucrgonzales]

@@ScamboliReviews How do you make them, dude? I'm starting out making YT vids and I want to make transitions like that. Blender?

[@Prosto-Ban]

@@lucrgonzales blender,simple lighting, don’t do realistic renders,make your own funny models,simple key frame animation,cool scene,funky filters,short music clips,color balance and good readable font.

[@YaBoiDoi]

@@ScamboliReviews I love them so much bruh

[@Ethereal6541]

goated transitions

[@YeahAlright1983]

Really wish there was an opt-in option for artists, AI "artists" are like leeches otherwise.

[@helpfulDeathgod]

Even if it was opt-in, people who want it will just take anyway.

[@YeahAlright1983]

@@helpfulDeathgod God, now is probably the worst time to be an artist *Edit: It FEELS like the worst time to be an artist, best case scenario artists can adapt alongside ai instead of out right being replaced by it

[@Donovarkhallum]

That's not the programs fault that's the copyrighters fault. Stop hating ai and hate the people abusing it.

[@YeahAlright1983]

@@Donovarkhallum The very first sentence I said was that Ai is a helpful tool.

[@yuki1zz668]

The thing is as scamboli said if they dont plan on selling that ai art or making money from it it doesnt matter its legal. Now i do understand that its bad for artist as they wont get paid for a art commission. If you want the rights to the art and make money from it you have to pay the original artist seems legit to me the other option for artist is if they see their work being used they can sue especially if its a big company.

[@toxic_roy]

hi, i just came to tell u that i really like your videos and would love to see you continue making them. I dont know what difficult times you are going through but i am sure it will pass, so please continue making videos. dont let your channel die. Best wishes.

[@ScamboliReviews]

thanks man

[@ANorGuy]

​@@ScamboliReviews I'm sorry to hear that you're going through difficult times. Here's a get well comment you can use to show your support. But, since you posted a banger video already, I think your difficult times have passed

[@mattdb8130]

@@ANorGuy I was in the same state of mind x)

[@bubblebuilds1864]

This is actually a great video because not only does it shed light on this subject, it also provides solutions to the problem!! Its really refreshing keep it up I love your videos!!!

[@firocomix]

AI is just going to make us appreciate traditional animation even more in the same way that practical effects and real stunts are valued much higher than CGI in the film industry.

[@wakkaseta8351]

I thought modern-day digital animation already did that.

[@kurtdupree1254]

"Real stunts". This was filmed as a live-action and esentially rotoscoped after

[@roricute]

Not only did he steal scenes and art from others but the worst was the disrespect towards the entire giant 2D animation industry (which is mostly anime) he said he didn't understand why people even work with animation... Why they even work hard for. AI will never be able to deliver something satisfactory, even stealing art from others. It took them 6 months, which is enough to make 2 ep of 24 min of anime, and the result was worse than a bad rotoscope, they had to fill it with exaggerated light and camera movement to make it look better.

[@billcipher9344]

@@roricute You're trying hard arent you?

[@roricute]

@@billcipher9344 AI will never be able to deliver something satisfactory, even stealing art from others. It took them 6 months, which is enough to make 2 ep of 24 min of anime, and the result was worse than a bad rotoscope, they had to fill it with exaggerated light and camera movement to make it look better.

[@Nsix4]

"I'm terrified by A.I. and wish it would just go away, but I know it won't" This is exactly how I feel about A.I.

[@LuisSierra42]

Because it is the truth

[@praneethramesh4535]

you shouldn't be terrified of ai. i promise you use ai every single day, and it has massively improved everyones lives. we should all be incredibly grateful for the programmers that made these super sick programs we use daily. if you meant specifically "generative ai" then i can understand ur comment a bit more.

[@condimentking3395]

​@@praneethramesh4535 I would just take context and give benefit of the doubt here man

[@praneethramesh4535]

@@condimentking3395 yeah probably

[@Galdorise]

@@praneethramesh4535 That sounds like something an AI would say...

[@fumbuswumbus]

Hey man I was just scrolling through YT when I saw u just hit 1 mil, Good Job I'm proud of u 👍👍

[@Themoogle]

Scam, don't you dare quit on me. I watch your vids over and over because you are so talented at writing and persuade me in a way no one else does to try new manga and anime. You sir, are a legend in my eyes. Keep at it, you inspire me!

[@KurapikaStan]

Agreed

[@loonitick]

"i'll just do it in private if you're gonna yell at me" is such a perfect line. Thank you for the new phrase, Scamboli

[@soulbounddoll1826]

Exactly the attitude I have about some things.

[@darkwubshd4961]

I need an ai generated horror anime. Think about daedric horrors that WE obviously couldn't imagine so a COMPUTER had to model it for us

[@CoveringFish]

Oh god no

[@MrTakatschun]

oh god yes

[@supahflames]

Oh god maybe

[@kellmedd4925]

Honestly, modern horror and horror in general doesn't scare me anymore because it's either cheap jumpscares, or I spoil it for my friends by saying, "I called it" because some people leave too obvious of hints. I need more subtlety, or something like that mystery horror sfm, Emesis Blue. I could not predict anything in that, it was... special. If only there could be more like that. I like it when my predictions are not correct every time. Then again, some people lack innovation and just copy off other horror tropes like parrots. So that's probably why most horror is predictable, because even the originals feel bland when there's like a thousand copies.

[@Anonymality]

ehh, the problem is that ai generated horror would be based off of human made horror. it could probably come up with something that humans haven't thought of yet, but it would still be based off of human interpretation. an ai would have to near-sentient in order to create true cosmic horror. and I don't think anyone should want sentient ai's imo lol

[@Sharkrider55]

Congrats on hitting 1 million subs! Keep up the great work man

[@lemmonboy6459]

You truly are the master of “comical criticism” Not overtly mean and degrading. Not just blatant name calling (unless it’s funny) Great video and thanks for the new viewpoint!

[@whannabi]

Some people are currently biting their nails

[@ScamboliReviews]

Thank you!!!

[@antwan3966]

Naww just bare handedly disrespecting the way ppl look or talk to get views will never be it sorry , yeah it's "jokes" I get it but this is money for the scamboli too let's not forget just seems like some weird shit to me

[@cannedsquasher5923]

@@antwan3966 When did he do either of those two things, lmao. He was making fun of what Mother's Basement was saying because some of it was fucking stupid.

[@antwan3966]

@@cannedsquasher5923 clipping someone taking breaths is weird, and talking about the way they look such as glasses and beard and even alluding to shady accusations for no reason with netflix promotion was all weird and immature this dude has never even done a face reveal how you gonna talk about what someone wears idk just seems like some high school shit thought this channel was bettee

[@terubokmasin3247]

Calling out is a good thing when there are valid points, explained clearly, respectfully & sincerely. I like Geoff but what you did is a good thing too.

[@ScamboliReviews]

Thank you

[@spam_1224]

No valid point were made. He just did a silly bit on a subject he has no experience with or any real knowledge of and because it's le funny people think he really did something.

[@D.KlWA-aG]

@@spam_1224 Thats your opinion and im going to ignore it

[@antwan3966]

​@Spam _ He had points but it was just lowkey cringe and disrespectful the way he personally attack Jeff to make his video sit watchable to get get his point across, like I get it its a jokes and he was trynna defend A.I company but you gotta be disrespectful to a individual person to do that is weird and like scamboli WHOLE video is attacking or "reviewing" Jeff video basically is weird as well not the content i come to see this channel for sure

[@brambl3014]

@@antwan3966 honestly, a dishonest video like what Jeff did deserved to be attacked and dismantled words by words

[@lrekkk9162]

This is really well thought out! Helped me a lot in making my mind up on what I feel about this whole AI art controversy. You're awesome 👍

[@DesolateLavender]

These were really well constructed, valid points. You kept a very level head. Good job.

[@YTuser133]

"god put me on this earth to talk about things I know nothing about" This sentence goes so hard lmao

[@ScamboliReviews]

Definitely due to how true it is

[@Theycallmetomu]

In all seriousness, this video pretty much perfectly encapsulated pretty much everything I've been wanting to say since I saw Geoff's vid. "I don't usually make stuff like this" WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD, YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

[@Theycallmetomu]

Who else agrees that "The Community" NEEDS Scamboli as part of the discourse, as a counterweight to Geoff's enthusiasm?

[@akabaneolivia9550]

I agree, but I think he'd hate it.

[@Theycallmetomu]

@@akabaneolivia9550 Then he shall have to be like Jesus, and suffer in exchange for the rest of our salvation.

[@spam_1224]

@@Theycallmetomu no

[@Theycallmetomu]

@Beyond I don't consider myself a content creator. I'm more a content commentator.

[@Name-yv2zq]

As an artist, I'm not even mad. I'm entirely depressed about AI. Rip my career aspirations

[@thispersonwriting1889]

Where were you when voice recognition technology was made and transcription stopped being a viable career? Where were you when data entry was automated and the career path I'd worked towards for years became less and less likely? Why was it a natural progression of the economy right up until you artists realized that the clever little monkeys had found a way to mimic YOUR work. Not that I'm bitter about being told that only "unskilled" work can be automated, and that the arts can never be automated, or anything.

[@ellenripley4837]

Don't be too depressed. Ai is not perfect or usable for real production work. Grifters that are using AI are not even aware of all of its problems. Granted it produces really pretty images with interesting colors and light but it's not very coherent. It's great for references and ide generation but not for final products.

[@peacefusion]

as an artist, you should be hyped that AI is here to help your workflow.

[@WwZa7]

@@peacefusion Do you have examples of actual applications of these improving artist's workflow?

[@bruh-bn3ni]

@@ellenripley4837 copium. please tell this guy the reality

[@Waqulah]

I love this and I dont even watch anime. I just realized the stories I am writing would be great for anime and started researching it. I ADORE your channel and insights.

[@TheBlueraid]

I'm not fine with AI art being promoted/obfuscated as normal art by some questionable artists. but if they say it's AI generated art from the get-go, sure that's cool, all the power to them.

[@TheRealXartaX]

Art is not a protected term. If you can call a banana taped to a canvas art, you sure as heck can call something generated by an AI art. You don't have to accept it as art yourself, but neither can you stop others from calling or considering it art or use it to justify taking hostile actions towards them.

[@adriansplatnieks7702]

​@@TheRealXartaXamen

[@deepfried7663]

@@TheRealXartaX I dont think hes saying AI art isnt art, more so its just better to label it as AI art so not to diminish human artists.

[@Wynonyn]

​@@TheRealXartaX putting Ai first isn't to say it isn't art it just to clarify the method of making the work. This changes how people look and analyze and talk about art because different mediums require different skills etc.

[@bartbatz1515]

@@TheRealXartaX 'If you can call a banana taped to a canvas art...' You can call a dog a cactus. You can call X like it's Y. You'd be wrong. If art expresses the intent of the artist, postmodern 'art' can't be called typcally be called art because much of it is literally 'because I can do this, I do'. There's no intent there. This is obviously a soft lower bar though. If I wanted to raise it somewhat, I'd say 'evidence of intent must be visible to a viewer'. Most people will accurately claim abstract art has meaning and intent put into it, even if they don't know what the intent is. Postmodern art reflects post-modernism, which is a disguise for nihilism. If there is no meaning there is no art. Even if the goal isn''t making tons of money, artists generally want to show their creations to the world. The only reason to bother defining 'art' is to help them make stuff people want to see. It's not to denigrate anyone. It's not even to insult people who tape bananas to walls.

[@munanchoinc]

People often forget that the Corridor Crew did alot of work for the video. They had to get the acting, motion, camera angles, equipment, costumes, Programming knowledge and design. You can't simply put it into an AI blender and expect good results. They even explained in the bts bit that it's extremely difficult to do it in normal means

[@anthonyrusso3100]

Exactly it makes no sense that everyone is just saying they did no work and put it into an AI because if you actually were to watch their videos on it it’s completely not what happened

[@daboidabber3rd]

I guess people flying jets and boating are doing zero work since their not rowing “that machines doing all the work” shit is so goofy and bitter

[@RS_mamf]

They don’t forget, they’re just refusing the acknowledge it

[@MisterRadomil]

but it still looks like shit tho

[@daboidabber3rd]

@@MisterRadomil Bro it’s literally been out for a year or two. Such a weak and childish argument, reeks of bitterness. Sound like the people in the 80s and 90s saying the internet was useless 😂

[@asher42383]

Congrats on ALMOST making it to 1mil subs, you earned it.

[@olex3061]

Happy 1M subs! I think it would be an amazing video if you talked about Vinland Saga (season 1 comparing to season 2) and how season 1 spoils us so when people drop season two the people who stay get rewarded with the surprise season 2 came with

[@licht3457]

The “even showed a real life women” killed me

[@tuxrug]

I'm conflicted over the whole drama. At first I thought it was really impressive and I thought the short was hilarious and fun to watch. But I somewhat agree with some of Mother's Basement's opinions. I am worried that this is a proof-of-concept animation studios are looking for to justify treating their animators worse. "If we can have a free program replace you, we shouldn't be paying you even half what you're making now," I can imagine the Disneys of the world saying in only a couple years.

[@Chex_Mex]

I think the main thing is, if we'd like artists to make liveable wages post-AI art, we need to advocate in laws to promote better legislation to support their livelihood. We can't beat out a new technology simply by hating it online. It's like people who hate how the government has gone and so decide not to vote at all out of an act of protest. Sure, you have shown your disapproval in the system but now you have at the same time lost your only way to impact that system for the better. We need an actual group of people willingly to think about real solutions to this problem and then protest and advocate with specific demands/solutions. It's the only way actual grassroots movements actually influence the world for the better.

[@Quast]

Would like to know how far the rights go for animators that have worked at any studio. I'd find it highly questionable if studios could use not just your work you did for them but also your 1:1 artstyle for new projects in perpetuity!

[@Solisus]

I'm sorry but so? Animators have poor salaries because there are too many of them. It's the reason why I dropped it during my university years. I saw that job market for it was terrible. It's a business, not a charity. Everyone charitable person until they start paying taxes. Every business, big or small, will try to find a cheaper way to create a product. By this 'people will lose jobs' logic, digital artists are why traditional artists lost a lot of employment after the bloom of photoshop and digital drawing tablets. It's funny because most people who are vocal about it, were silent when the tools they are using now, are the reason for someone else losing their job.

[@gunship0995]

No need for that m8, if corporation see you as trash, they will discard you. It's just business (like tech companies firing workers rn because they're bloated). Disney doesn't need to use AI to justify anything when they can use their brand name.

[@kilbert666]

Animation is cheap, acting is not. It'll cause a rise in rotoscoping and everyone will hate it because rotoscoping looks like trash at best.

[@Aldawen]

love your content. you're a chill guy.

[@NorsePaganFrost]

The tags in the description warmed my heart, scamboli. Wholesome af 💯

[@jplichta]

This is probably the best and most balanced take on AI-generated media I've seen so far. Didn't expect it coming from the dude making videos about fucked up anime but appreciate it all the more lmao

[@tronyboy6016]

As an artist who works for hours on each piece, I personally didn’t feel threatened by corridor digitals animation, they put so much love and effort into it, on the other hand people who just generate images and call that art, they’re the ones who actually aren’t creating art because they’re solely relying on the AI to do everything not using it as a tool to visualise their own idea

[@roricute]

Not only did he steal scenes and art from others but the worst was the disrespect towards the entire giant 2D animation industry (which is mostly anime) he said he didn't understand why people even work with animation... Why they even work hard for. AI will never be able to deliver something satisfactory, even stealing art from others. It took them 6 months, which is enough to make 2 ep of 24 min of anime, and the result was worse than a bad rotoscope, they had to fill it with exaggerated light and camera movement to make it look better.

[@isameno3916]

@@roricute who are you talking to

[@roricute]

@@isameno3916 corridor

[@kashii359]

​@@roricute weird ass username opinion rejected

[@roricute]

@@kashii359 If you rejected because of the nick then you proved me right.

[@brendanjackson2416]

Mate, every time I open one of your videos I end up loosing hours of life... keep up the epic work.

[@zainbain8261]

I just found your channel and all I wanna say is that your videos are amazing.

[@StormForthcoming]

God, these are the most magnificent and magical transitions I’ve ever seen in my life. Literally life changing. The video was also good. Thank you for your good and well reasoned opinions.

[@ScamboliReviews]

Hahaha thank you

[@Klionheart]

​@Scamboli Reviews nothing well reasoned about it. You missed the whole point of the main argument and spent the majority of your video tearing down Geoff rather than address what our actual argument is. I can already smell the AI Bros coming here now and using your video to justify calling those of us who do not want our work stolen luddites. Great job.

[@lih3391]

@@Klionheart bruh he did address the main argument, it was that artists weren't being credited and this new ai stuff was going to replace animation, watch the video again, he does address this

[@VitaminPokemon]

@@Klionheart I’m gonna have to disagree with the opinion of AI and art in general. You talk about work being “stolen” but you stand on the shoulders of giants anyway. I’m not sure exactly what the issue everyone has is, but artists goes to university/some other learning institution and LEARN how previous art is made. Stealing happens subconsciously in every domain. For instance, you hear a song in music and want to emulate something close to it; you can identify base elements and decide that you want to incorporate that in your music. You’re basing your work on copyrighted material. I literally don’t know what to say, there’s lots of anime artists out there who learn from someone else’s style and changes aspects of it, the SAME way a neural network is structured. If you still think AI is “stealing” and regular people aren’t, please explain

[@Klionheart]

@Lih it's a footnote he makes at the beginning and goes on to bring up luddites, bring up that people are angry for the wrong reasons, and paints the entire work they did as if there was nothing wrong with what they did. I can admire artistic efforts as much as the next person and can commend Corridor for putting as much passion as they did to the project. I DO NOT agree with the narrative they push that Art isn't democratized (it already is) and using AI programs that literally scrape the work of artists NOT in the public domain to create their work. We are not pissed that there are robots making things faster. My entire career with art is using robots that help make my art faster. We are pissed that there are robots stealing our work without credit, without opt-in ethics, insisting it's all original work, and then making a profit off it. Scamboli might as well give them a praising review for having such a strong argument for the little guy. Please.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

This shit is comical man and I don't mean the controversy but the way they had made that as a whole I'd be surprised if it wasn't a joke at all when it should have been a meme.

[@iamstupid323]

i think the controversy began when corridor crew made the video that we just change animation video teaching how to do it making people scared that ai is going to replace animators ..which isnt the case

[@ryxrr7207]

​@@iamstupid323 the tittle itself is a joke. For fucks sake I know people are dumb but I thought that clickbaiting was becoming less effective. I guess I was more than wrong.

[@fucksusan.fuckcensorship.874]

@@iamstupid323 cause people are dumb this. what they did with this video is literally just advanced rotoscoping. so instead of rotoscoping all by yourself the ai does it. People have been rotoscoping since forever. Even Disney Rotoscoped their old animations. All this is going to do is create a new genre of art to check out. painters were upset about cameras replacing portrait paintings but cameras never replaced anything. People were worried digital art would replace real art, digital art didn't replace anything. People are always just afraid of the new thing coming out when art is a lot harder to straight up replaced. Sure you can innovate a car to perform better but we literally havent replaced art styles ever. There's people to this day still making old styles of art, its up to the people to keep the older styles alive. Imo all these artists that complain all the time are the reason certain types of art die, because they give up the moment something new comes out. I make music and AI effects that too but i ain't scared of shit, imma keep making music regardless. I think people are afraid cause a lot of peoples art don't stand out, they just copy other peoples shit so no wonder they are afraid of AI cause AI is pretty good at detecting the patterns in a genre, if a group of artists all sound generic, no wonder they are scared of being replaced. I bet all the visual artists that are scared are probably just generic too. AI has harder times replicating things that stand out or are unique because they have less data to go off of.

[@TheSkaOreo]

Pretty much. If they had just kept it to “hey we did this fun thing” or “hey here’s a tool that could make artist’s lives easier” I think it’d be ok. Instead they decided on “We’re democratizing the artistic process” And the internet reacted accordingly.

[@TB.167]

​@Common sense outcast it be helpful animating is hard and with this they could reduce the time it takes to make an episode of anything animated

[@thatguybis1997]

Damn you dumpstered on Mother’s Basement straight up. Great video.

[@foggy8298]

Comparing mothers basement to quartering is fucking wild wtf lmao

[@sirmuffincat6630]

I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people I followed on Twitter the day that Corridor uploaded that video. I understand and agree with a lot of the criticisms of AI but the visceral hate directed at Corridor was completely unfounded and even nonsensical at times. Thank you very much for making this video, I felt like I was crazy for actually liking what Corridor made.

[@crimsoneclipse1882]

It doesn't even look anime inspired, looks more rotoscoped tbh. Like their other anime videos are better at conveying the anime style because it took care and passion to emulate the feeling of an anime instead of feeding data into a machine.

[@ellec7188]

It basically is, they are using live actors If the title was like "We used AI to help make an anime inspired show" or something to that degree I'm p sure people wouldn't care let alone I think many people might even be like cool so this is a possible application for ai

[@_vnfr]

i say its like using a shader in a 3d program but more jittery

[@Donovarkhallum]

It's just like Joel havers stuff with a different style

[@Kreapypastoid]

Durrrr they use ai to slightly mimic art direction, durrrr ai don’t know anime, it machine durrrr

[@aaronarce1498]

Yeah as Aaron Said, they aren’t animating, it’s a filter on top of their live action, their title and the whole “we are democratizing animation” is what I don’t like, and the whole stealing art stuff of course.

[@SarahKMEb-gp7qu]

Bro I love these videos 😂

[@danielbentsvi5098]

Congratulations on one mil i love your videos youre in my top 3 KZbinrs 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@hollow9946]

13:44 HOLY YOU FUCKING KILLED HIM

[@pressurechief]

The difference between AI and humans is that we can be creative, what corridor did was just use their creativity and tell AI what to do, and they added a lot more to it

[@brettwarner719]

You overestimate the creativity present in a human my friend. As AI advances it will start making its own breakthroughs. Thats the point. You overestimate you own abilities.

[@kinsal_9308]

Take one look at ai art and you will see your statement is false. Sure we have creativity but we aren't as creative as you think. Majority of anime as well as other entertainments follow a path layed out by previous creations and simply do their own take on it. Ai does not have this problem, a lot of AI art contains concepts never created by humans.

[@kinsal_9308]

@@brettwarner719 that's humans for you. People seem to forget we are not gods but simply animals, we cannot endlessly continue to create new things. The barrel will run dry eventually. AI will essentially bring a new perspective and will view things differently and therefore can come up with fresh ideas and concepts, it's already starting to.

[@joven_]

​@@bend6223 you need to touch grass yourself

[@ftu1781]

@@bend6223 That's what your ancestors did until we made technological advances. AI will greatly help us advance our civilization. You just look dumb for making this comment.

[@cloudstrife1619]

yooo 1million, yippie, good videos. always make me laugh.

[@modsoldier]

I like u man just watched your most recent vid and I just want to say keep up the good work👍🏾

[@Rad85PRO]

Level-headed, honest and great arguments. Scamboli being based once again. Great video man

[@Angrynood]

I was so conflicted on this argument. I think this viewpoint is probably the healthiest one I've seen. Might be the one I defer to when I talk about AI.

[@ScamboliReviews]

Thank you 😎

[@handzze7341]

Cheer.

[@Rihcterwilker]

Their anime looks decent for a non-serious project, but the statement of "Did we change animation?" is what got people mad, for how pretentious it is. For the artists out there already being underpaid and undervalued, it sucks really hard. We already got that netflix anime with backgrounds made by ai, with them justifying the ai use due to the "shortage" of artists (which means: they didn't found artists that would work for dirty cheap, so used the free option instead).

[@AryanSingh-yy9mw]

They are still gonna be underpaid and undervalued, its not like any of that's gonna change if they did or did not released the video cause they are not the ones to blame. Not to mention there technology does seem to have the potential considering it just the beginning phase of their project and it still has a long way to go but even now the animation doesn't look bad by any means. Imagine every mangaka that has ever wanted for their manga to be animated can almost do it themselves if this thing continues

[@Rihcterwilker]

@@AryanSingh-yy9mw i did add to my comment the case of the netflix anime where artists were replaced by ai, with the excuse of "shortage of artists". They were undervalued before, and it WILL get worse, not only for them but for both sides: they lose jobs, we get pretty but souless piece of content. Human crafted worlds have intent behind them, but ai is cheaper, so there's that. And corridor crew claiming to have "changed the game" is pretentious, there's no way around that.

[@Kisuke258]

Firstly they asked a question in the tile. They didn’t say that that’s what they did. Secondly, they probably have changed animation industry forever.

[@kookykoruc1827]

We're finally getting a sequel to the industrial revolution

[@user-xk2ib4bm9s]

@@Kisuke258 no they didnt lol

[@tomahawk10004]

Dude I'm not gunna lie. I found your channel not too long ago but goddamn you make good content! Hella enjoying it duude

[@velgrynd4890]

CONGRATS ON 1 MIL

[@CrispyAndCaramel]

As an aspiring animator and artist, it's very nice to hear that I'm not wrong for liking corridor digital "Ai Anime" but also that Ai isn't making the talents I am tormenting myself to obtain and hone, obsolete. Amazing video as always

[@captainphoton1693]

And honestly. For the next decades people will not use AI like it's advertised right there. Imagine trying to type every scene and get the exact result you want. There is a reason why they transformed a video into an anime style. Key framing will still be a thing for a while. The tools used in the future will probably be more aquined to a 3d and 2d software mixed. With camera movement model imports 2 images import, light sources, color palette etc. Add the ai in with multiple instances for different uses, the ability to train ai with you own stuff and general options trained from their own stock images. And the process will be. Put your key frames (3d or 2d) specify what object is what. Chose color palette light sources camera moves and a decor (can be directly in the key frame part). Then you click a button and it render the scene. Then add instructions to modify or specify some part without having to redo the key framing. As well as post processing etc. Thats how I see it and it also create new jobs. From really details turnaround. To coloring now being the choice and not the filling. As well as people entirely dedicated to giving the AI references for the specific art style used. And you honestly still have a great and healthy production with humans involved.

[@roricute]

Not only did he steal scenes and art from others but the worst was the disrespect towards the entire giant 2D animation industry (which is mostly anime) he said he didn't understand why people even work with animation... Why they even work hard for. AI will never be able to deliver something satisfactory, even stealing art from others. It took them 6 months, which is enough to make 2 ep of 24 min of anime, and the result was worse than a bad rotoscope, they had to fill it with exaggerated light and camera movement to make it look better.

[@justanormalcat1839]

I don’t want to put on a holier than thou attitude, but as an Animation/Illustration Major studying at university, AI is a tricky problem. I feel it can be a tool that can help artists increase their workflow, collaborate and iterate more efficiently and just get stuff in the pipeline better but also realize that is 100% not the way it’s being used currently. There is a lack of boundaries and respect when it comes to this technology right now and while I don’t entirely see a world where AI ever replaces humans as artist, it can start a trend that may lead to people treating industry artists even worse.

[@wyattsutcliffe6028]

Yeah, it's that whole thing of: "damn, these automatic looms are dope as shit! I used to have to work an entire day to make this fucking napkin, now i can make that in 10 mins! Now i can work for 30 mins a day and still be 3X more productive, right? right boss? boss?!" when of course our corporate overlords go: "did you say you could work 19 hours a day and be 114X MORE PRODUCTIVE? YOU FUCKING LIVE HERE PEASANT!". Technology has *always* had the ability to lead to a better, more sustainable lifestyle, but it **NEVER** does. If x tool makes dude A do 2X more work, rather than finding a middleground where there is still a net profit, it's better to keep the same workload with even more profit. To pull this to animation, a 5 person studio making a short animated ad for example would probably be expected to have the rendering part of their workflow (not just 3d) increase in speed 2X if they are provided with the relevant tools, meaning the animation studio just pumped out its ad in 15% less time, which they use to barter a higher price and fit more projects in. It's not just with AI, or animation AI (though media is probably one of the worst industries work condition wise in the developed world) it's more or less *any* tool, and that's what needs to be addressed - the advances in technology we bring must benefit both safety and society BEFORE profit. I think a good example of where this is done minorly better is pallet stacking robots; even if they will eventually nuke a large portion of the factory work working population, for the workers that do end up it, they aren't breaking their backs lifting shit, they are broadly in a safer environment (because an unpredictable environment is more expensive with these tools), and again for the people who remain working on the floor, it's a net win. We seem to be approaching a near future where the rate at which technology reduces the viable work market, and when combined with these points about tools benefiting society before profit, there really needs to be a solid discussion about how we approach these problems (I mean, people are already screaming about it, ai is just the latest slap in the face). I'm just venting at this point, but tldr yeah shits fucked man - ai is dope as shit but it's not going to magically undo decades of extreme worker exploitation

[@Chen-vw5nc]

im not in studying animation or anything but I really love this medium. But I really think AI can be a good tool for artists just like how it has been for me as a computer science student. Its just that alot of people misuse the tool for all the wrong reasons.

[@neonwallacewells7818]

As a writer without the ability to draw machine learning has been a godsend

[@MarkoArillius]

No offense but as long as industry artists refuse to vote out the politicians taking money and unionize, you can get hurt more anyway.

[@gara8142]

This is not a tool for artists. This is a tool for every person that has ever wanted to do something artistic

[@frodizle21]

Lovin your takes and Glad to see you're using your noggin (with sources) by critically analyzing the facts rather then just letting emotion drive aurguments... like someone shown in the video. Great work and take my sub

[@phishndaphrog-1895]

I fucking love your channel so much please never stop

[@lukedavies3654]

I absolutely love these reviews, they’re seriously a highlight whenever they’re uploaded. I really enjoy seeing your channel evolve

[@thtb]

Sadly rapidly spress missinformation and is missinformed.

[@williammalave4071]

The dark souls pickle is amazing. AI art can be a very useful tool without the need to be exploitative or a way to remove human hands from the production scene. I think AI art will genuinely be best with a full human team behind it guiding every step of the process. I don't believe there will ever be a time where this stuff wont need people to make it whole.

[@Kokuswolf]

Yes! Yes, yes. Life changed since we understand to control fire. And back then this replaced the guy making food without fire ... wait, it did not. It coexisted. We can make food heated with fire or not heated ... or *tadam* put both together. Seriously, I don't like changes either, especially when there are not in favor of me. But this would not replace artist. But it would change how art is made proportionally and I believe artists are given new options they never thought of. For example creating an art style to recreated an already existing work in that style without having to do this for each and every frame. Like recreating "steamed ham" from Simpsons in their specific anime art style using this AI tech.

[@toasega]

Yeah, and I never believed that a computer could get creative, yet here we are.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

"without the need to be exploitative " Um...Idk about that.

[@2265Hello]

Problem is human greed and corporations will try to cut costs whenever possible. Also with how AI is trained it’s ethics are questionable at best especially companies who refuse to be transparent with how they trained their ai art. Don’t forget the Kim Jung Gi got his art fed to an ai art program not long after he died and then had it advertised

[@knine53]

Never seen this channel before, and now I'm subscribed

[@Greenpoptartover9000]

Finally a competent take on ai art. Thank you. It's here to stay and I think it's cool. Can't wait to see what good comes out of it!

[@ASMCourtney]

Every single video I get more convinced that you are a thoughtful, funny, moderately depressed absolute unit. And it's beautiful, thank you for standing up for what you believe in

[@Uniquenameosaurus]

9:08 That fucking stopped me. That's a GOOD fucking point.

[@fleur2499]

"-But when the world needed him most, he vanished."

[@LorenzoKim]

Your content Is golden and you will lead a new generation of video essay youtubers into glory

[@ion_force]

Here's my hot take: It wasn't "AI GENERATED". In the sense that they painstakingly created a short movie using an "AI" filter on footage they shot in a studio and assets they owned. The "AI" just smoothed out the process and eliminated a bunch of middle men. What corridor did is no different than a Joel Haver animation.

[@GayCherryJuice]

And the middle men it eliminated was artists who could have been paid for their work. They still used images from vampire d hunters without the express permission from the creators to train the AI. I still don't think it's right.

[@lloydmartel]

honestly I was thinking the same thing, you're completely right here.

[@shiveringsheo3253]

@@GayCherryJuicethat's just false. Without AI corridor crew would never have been able to make that video in the first place, ergo it didn't replace anyone. That's the whole point. Their whole pitch is how this allows for animated works where NONE would have existed otherwise.

[@GayCherryJuice]

​@@shiveringsheo3253 You don't get to make any excuses. My point is the same. You haven't disproven my point. Corridor Crew should have hired actual artists to rotoscope and create the animation themselves. What they did was steal frames of animation from a pre-existing anime that is copyrighted- Which means they could end up in legal trouble, by the way. Then they created an "ai" filter to basically do all that hard work for them. They could have easily hired artists to help with this project. They chose to cut them out of the process and instead employ a robot so they could save money. Unless the AI you are using is EXCLUSIVELY using content you yourself own, it isn't ethical as the AI has been trained with content you have no right to. You cannot argue this point. You also cannot own the copyright for content generated with AI, so that means that the footage used in the video Corridor Crew created is completely free for all. They cannot own it, as the filter is created by an Ai and applied by an AI. Ergo, they don't own it. Sit the fuck down and stop defending blatant art theft. Learn how to draw yourself. Nobody is born a Picasso. Every artist has spent years practicing and learning. You can very well do the same instead of stealing art like a talentless hack. The fact that people like you feel entitled to the skills of a professional artist within 5 minutes because you can't be asked to either pay someone for their profession or learn anything about art yourself is fucking depressing.

[@zyanbob]

@@GayCherryJuice have you seen the video this comment section is attached to or did you just read the title, looked at the 1st comment you didn't like and retort the same message this video was made to rebut

[@eyobwalid2332]

This is why I’m subscribed; you can make the most valid, serious, well thought-out points about an important topic like this, but still do it jokingly. You take yourself seriously and not seriously in a perfect blend

[@StuicideDesigns]

Topics I love, humor that is on point, intellect wrapped in self depreciating humility..... and the constant Classic final fantasy, or Legend of Zelda music, has earned you a new sub this day good sir. Edit: ok.. begging for the subscription at the end was cringe.. I changed my mind. hue..

[@CasticDigital]

honestly, THE best take I have heard on the subject of AI in general and i have slightly shifted my view on it due to this video. I subbed.

[@TheSquaredkid]

This is really how I felt while watching this mother's basement video. Thank you for raising an alternative viewpoint. Also, thank you for articulating it so well!

[@jonahbradley4593]

Scamboli, please continue to use the random cuts to funny 3d animals, it cracks me up everytime they pop up and they look beautiful 😂

[@Mr_Marinaru]

Love the style of his video!

[@MochoStudios]

At first I came into this video expecting the arguments to be bad cause ai bad but you changed my mind in a clear, entertaining, hopeful and funny way new subscriber as of today

[@Shadsterwolf]

The problem I have with AI is many artist's work are -yet again- being stolen without their consent. Websites/Companies by default (Adobe, Artstation, DeviantArt) have auto-opted everyone in to allow AI to train from them.

[@neolordie]

discord is also using your data to train ai

[@Pryflim]

Sites like Pixiv also got in trouble by the content ai art users kept posting

[@CapnNapalm]

Artists also had entire portfolios on sites like those before AI image generation was a concept as well

[@V1_Ultrakiller]

@@neolordie That is going to be one shitty AI

[@rynsart]

@@neolordie You can turn a setting off to prevent that.

[@Eliagiulio]

I think a lot of the anger comes from the title of the video Corridor used for the BTS and the idea of "democratizing" the process. As AI is already a very hot topic, using that word in any context close to it, was going to piss people off and give the idea of "Hey, everyone can use this and do their own animations even if they don't know how to draw a hand". That was clearly not their intention, but I can see why people would read it that way. I also agree with a lot of the points Geoff is making in his original video about AI being used to cut corners and employ less animators with less pay. That is 100% one of the first things big animation companies are going to try to do to save a buck on the more menial/time consuming aspects of animation. But ultimately, you are 100% correct when you say that we have to learn to live with this stuff, because it's not gonna go away. The best thing to do now is to push for a healthy and functional regulation of the machine now (and maybe some update to copyright laws so they properly reflect the current state of the world and Disney and Co. can stop from abusing their power to withhold stuff from the public domain while we're at it) before it becomes a staple of unfair or harmful practices. Also the point about movements is great, you don't boycott shit by screeching, you have to argument calmly about it or people are just gonna find you annoying

[@wyattsutcliffe6028]

I think what's happening is a lot of optimism from a team that treats their members well. This technology is capable of doing what they suggest; when developed it brings down the workload required to go from demo to product. However, capitalism is such that if x tool makes dude A 2X more productive, they will never make A work half as much. I really hope that the nutty progress of tools that can do half of the shit we say we do at work, combined with animation and the development of mechatronics, starts to wake people up to the fact that we are working 40 hours a week, when LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE INDUSTRTY would benefit from a 32 h/w model.

[@wyattsutcliffe6028]

Addendum: viva la frenchies with the retirement shit, we need more of that. The rest of the world let our senior population get pissed on because they aren't as productive, and we watched that golden shower. Despite smelling like piss, turns out paris doesn't like being pissed on, fucking A.

[@Eliagiulio]

@@wyattsutcliffe6028 I'm not so keen on giving the Corridor people too much benefit of the doubt. I remember they released a video when the whole AI art thing was a new debate, talking about the ethics behind it and how it should be approached, so they definitely knew that it was a spicy topic. I think it was a bit chasing the clickbaity title, a bit overeagerness and a bit just hoping that it would land better.

[@wyattsutcliffe6028]

@@Eliagiulio I like your calm approach providing criticism. There are definitely new and old parts to the AI discussion - the old that I already brought up, and the new stuff with exactly how "new" is ai art. I do think that their coverage did blur the line a bit between those two arguments, which i can understand being percieved as biasing an argument. Definitely for them, minimal control / reimbursement over the tool is benefitial, and you can see that reflected in a clear bias that they want the tool to be something thats super cheap to use etc, etc. Finally there's definitely no sound rebuttal that "did we just change animation forever" isn't an intentionally clickbaity title designed to spark discussion. With those things in mind however, i do think that the optimistic ideas they had for this tool and ai in general is something we should aspire to achieve, and hopefully humanity as a whole can get off its ass and kick the systems of exploitation we embrace so dearly. I can definitely see those ideas aligning with their other content and discussions they put forward.

[@Eliagiulio]

@@wyattsutcliffe6028 Thanks, I try to keep it chill cause it helps get actual arguments out of people instead of buzzwords, you're great as well in that regard. Regarding AI, I hope you're right and we actually manage to use this insane technology well or at least non-exploitative, I'm just not too optimistic considering current power dynamics in entertainment and technology

[@screaminghairyarmadillo]

This is going to be the most backhanded compliment but I really didn't expect funny anime reviewer man to make one of the most thoughtful and well articulated arguments about AI and art that I've heard.

[@shnitzeedumple]

Oh Scamboli Reviews how do you get yourself to amaze me with these fine works of art you put in youtube, you could make a review of a plant and for probably like 5 hours I would be FucKinG air-headed thinking of how the sweet aroma of uhh idfk a poppy makes my life shimmer and gets meaning from this small miniscule plant which isnt really small and miniscule and is really more of the lesson of the story wowzers great vid

[@sarahwilkins8664]

I think one of the main reasons that corridor is getting so much hate is that they in fact tend to be pretty pro animator. So when they produced a film using an ai rotoscoping system train on copyrighted images called "did we change animation forever?" people get more mad then if some big studio did the same thing. Mostly as you'd think the Corridor Crew would have at least know to word things better. Secondly As for the General Anger (the comments your seeing under people playing with AI, though not all) a lot of that is coming from artist who are kinda tired of having hours of their lives and their skill being seen as worthless. Well watching their lively hoods dry up, Many artists are seeing their commissions all but disappear as people just get thing made by ai systems (currently all the big ones are trained on stolen stuff). Only to often be called entitled, whiners when they talk about how maybe don't? Sure an AI system itself is not evil just like the stream loom isn't evil but the way it currently is being made and used is. like if we lived in a world where you didn't have to make money to live this stuff would be fine but making a system that would remove millions of people livelihoods. When we have historical evident that is what is likely to happen seems like like it's fair to do a bit crabby? Like the example you had about the painters vs photograph, you had in your video? the painters mostly lost before photograph really took off there was a whole group of painter that world in communal illustration this period is called "the golden age of illustration" and has some of the best artist within the 20th century, when photograph came most of those artist lost their jobs, and those remaining had even more competition as they now had to fight the speed of photography. As why pay and artist for 5hours of work for a landscape when you can pay a photography for one hour? Painters did survive better then the weavers but that is mostly do to painting being easier to find was to increase productivity. though how an artist is to outpace a system that can make 30 images in a few minute is unlikely to be pretty if possible. Overall I argue Mother's basement is being a bit alarmist and should have maybe focus more on the Netflix show that was using AI to fix a "labor shortage" as that is closer to why AI systems are a problem. Instead of on Corridors crews video where his takes are a bit more emotion drive but I can see where his coming from.

[@randomvideoboy1]

This controversy made me realize that artists are just a bunch of entitled dickheads. They are using clothes that made weavers obsolete, what a bunch of hypocrites.

[@lyalas]

i'm thinking the same here , jeff has Always been a bit alarmist and quick to react, but most of his points still sand. Also the "u've been sponsored so u cant argue something is ugly" is bull, man's gotta take the bag sometimes, it doesn't discredit his opinions on other shows, ROR fault was having 0 time to animate shit, and jeff was not talking about "lack of time" but quality of animation when you HAVE the time and the argument that "being an anituber is the same we use anime frames too" is really pushing, someone reviewing an anime and taking still frames and critiquing the story animation sound ect is way different than slapping a shader created by forcefeeding an entire anime to an ai (known for stealing art lmfao)

[@roricute]

Not only did he steal scenes and art from others but the worst was the disrespect towards the entire giant 2D animation industry (which is mostly anime) he said he didn't understand why people even work with animation... Why they even work hard for. AI will never be able to deliver something satisfactory, even stealing art from others. It took them 6 months, which is enough to make 2 ep of 24 min of anime, and the result was worse than a bad rotoscope, they had to fill it with exaggerated light and camera movement to make it look better.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@@roricute Stop spamming this comment

[@Mr_Mistah]

I respect for Mother's Basement or his viewers Even less respect for artists

[@AluCunt_Tepes]

I haven’t watched a mothers basement video in a lil while on account of not being as consumed by anime culture and hype of late. But! I love your videos way of describing the moral behind both Jeff’s video and corridors. We as human beings can obviously tell and differentiate if something is malicious or if the intent is to do wrong. At no point did I see or feel like that were the case in corridors ai video, all I could see was the excitement this amazing studio had behind bringing something new to the public! Like the have ever day of since they’re inception! Jeff has his points but the hate and fear behind those points inevitably does nothing to improve on what inevitably will be adapted into modern animated cultures. Hats off to you scamboli! I’ve slowly fallen in love with your content and this has just solidified my respect of your position as a rational human being, and one with a mean streak of humour might I add! Legend Mate! Now let me go and check wether you have any other videos I’ve missed to binge! 😂😂 Note: Just check and nope! Still up to date! Sad. Ohh well guess it’s time to rebuffs your videos! 😂😂 kudos mate!

[@ScamboliReviews]

Thanks for the comment, brother. I'm motivated to work on the next vid ASAP

[@YaBoiDoi]

@@ScamboliReviews Bro your work ethic and the way you responded to GRACEFULLY to topics like these are how I got out of my whole "Feminist woke sjw agenda🤡" phase 2 years ago. Thanks for helping me not be a clown anymore.

[@skipperdipper5186]

@@YaBoiDoi Best character arc of all time, I was the same for a few years as well, I'm just happy that I can look back at that time in my life and cringe

[@Yixdy]

You really can't stop tech, like fr fr. But, you it is something to be afraid of, animators are already mega underpaid, and the exact second this stuff becomes 8% more betterer, it'll be used as leverage against animators/artists in general. The same thing happened with machine translation, and that shit don't even work

[@grantrussell6127]

Bruh pulled out the receipts 😂😂😂 13:58

[@summoned_skulll9480]

6:57 don’t worry scamboli, AI can’t replace you🥹

[@fatalexception3845]

I'm very much on board with any form of consistent progress. This is technological progress of great entity. More than ready for it.

[@sovietsnake4726]

Hey i haven't been watching super long only a month but congratulations on 1 mil, i wanted to come back to the latest one to say I hope your proud of the years of work you put in (despite its not-so-serious nature) I like it alot and you make me giggle while giving me advice on what animes are shit or not, so thanks. roll something up on that mf play button

[@Jose-jh4xb]

really love the direction you took with this video!! takes a titanium set of balls to jump out the hive-mind and provide a well-researched, balanced opinion on AI. Your take on photography/painting, CGI/animation (speaking of, trigun stampede might be something you want to check out) really put things into perspective

[@Teaminatorium]

This is honestly a great video and I completely agree with your statements. This reminded me of one conversation with my mum, a writer. She told me that she doesn't care if AI also starts writing books, people often write shitty books and AI also, if there will be good books from AI and bad books from people (And the other way around) AI will still be something created by human hand and she will enjoy something written by AI same way as something written by a person because still everyone can write and they do and they are trying to push through their low effort books. (Sorry for my bad English I just wanted to share this conversation that means a lot to me)

[@SenatorRicardo]

Congrats on 1mil Scamboli

[@jadensanchez3189]

Dog if your next video isn't about Peter Grill and the Philosopher's Time then I just gotta sit here and enjoy all the other content you be cooking up because it's all fire and I'm just waiting to watch!

[@gunther2077]

Scam evolved from just putting me onto new anime and making me laugh, to a full-blown history teacher.

[@_zurr]

The misplaced anger bit has been my biggest issue with the AI controversy. Honestly I am terrified by the development in the generative pace, much like the Luddites, and I'd rather not get executed. However, people take a rightful fear of losing their value and livelihood and attack those who are trying to not be crushed by the revolution, instead of making the revolution recognize that it needs to support those people now.

[@danielellis6327]

❤

[@ramen_shake8559]

idk, i think with how fast ai advancements are and the horrifying applications that we are seeing RIGHT NOW and in the near future (deepfake revenge porn, ai voice scam calls, mass layoffs, misinformation, etc.), i'd say let people make a big stink of it right now, if only to raise awareness of the danger for more immediate solutions. though there should be more awareness of how to live with it and where to place their energy, i agree

[@BakaHoushi]

Fun fact: The Luddites, the actual historical group, were right. They didn't hate technology inherently. They thought that the companies using these machines would use it to replace workers and make their working conditions worse. They were 100% spot on.

[@Solisus]

Here's the thing. Job market always changes. You'd have to have a very good profession to be safe for next decade. I remember exactly same shit when photoshop was created and it started getting better and better. I remember exactly same shit when digital tables become a lot more used by the artist. Hell, I even remember when artists who paint on canvas were hating digital artist and called them frauds because they thought painting in a software was soulless. This is the same. Artist market is already oversaturated as fuck where most of the artists are making money of furry prn. If we stopped progress everytime people were at risk at losing jobs, we'd go nowhere.

[@danielellis6327]

@@Solisus why furry porn and not regular porn?

[@AshBarkPerson]

I don't really watch anime much. I'll try now and again and then fuck off with other things for months. I have been binging your videos because even if I have no interest in the topic, the presentation and humor makes it wildly entertaining. Also I didn't sleep tonight because I decided to read all of the Record of Ragnarok because it seemed like the kind of fun I was wanting. It was, thanks.

[@michaelcolon4162]

You are the coolest, funniest lowkey smart and chill anituber on youtube.

[@sugarwuffl]

Artist/animator here. I’m currently studying 3D Modelling/Animation and I draw constantly but regarding the AI, I would say that AI could benefit to animators in dire situations. I’m gonna be honest, at first I hated the idea of AI actually stealing people’s jobs and was also contemplating whether I should hate it. But it also got me thinking of that maybe, just maybe, if we could try to coexist together. I’m not saying as if, “Hey you should do AI art forever, no one cares lmfao”. But as an artist myself, I can definitely see that art is changing. And that is true. But we also must stick to our traditional values and understand that art can only be made by those who can grasp it. Machines can help but we’re the ones who can do it. Apologies if some of my words are terribly misinterpreted.

[@tylermorgan5230]

I'm not that good drawing and want use ai to make my own animetion

[@TheSkaOreo]

@@tylermorgan5230 But AI is not going to automatically make you a good artist, and you're not going to make a top tier anime. It's a point that even Scamboli makes: Corridor Crew, to create what amounts to a kinda shitty anime, still needed multiple people to write, direct, and fine-tune the tech to make it somewhat watchable. And as the tech gets more advanced, that's going to be even more the case. You're still going to need an understanding of how to make art to make the most of it.

[@giuseppeagresta1425]

Well said

[@sugarwuffl]

@@tylermorgan5230 in my opinion, it is good that you want to try things out. However, it’s better that you could try to experience drawing. It’s a skill and that I think it’s best that you can try apply AI art as references and you can use those references as ideas for your animation :)

[@supremcaos]

​@@tylermorgan5230 bro... Why not starting to study art and animation if you feel strongly about it instead? It's a very fun hobby once you get going with it.

[@daddsfasdasd]

never even thought about how cool RDC using this stuff would be

[@rockboyman4210]

Nah fr

[@alpguy4865]

Sh*ts would be fire fr

[@kei7540]

They're already making a legit anime called Dark lights they don't need it