This B58/S58 Turbo Kit Uses the STOCK Electronic Wastegate!

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@kern417 2 ай бұрын

Links to the new Vargas Turbo Kits B58: vargasturbo.com/product/vtt-fab-b58-factory-control-ewg-top-mount-single-turbo-kit/ S58: vargasturbo.com/product/vtt-fab-s58-factory-control-ewg-top-mount-single-turbo-kit/

@operatorrob4914 2 ай бұрын

Spool is releasing a factory location full frame upgrade for s58

@JeffmanRSA 2 ай бұрын

I like setups like this. Gives you all the flamboyance of a top mount turbo kit, all the loud sounds and shiny parts sticks out while maintaining oem functionality. Good job from Vargas.

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

Yep good job for stealing my idea sucks you couldn’t get it right tho. That’s what happens when you steal. Guess what my kit you don’t need to recalibrate the wastegate just install it 😂.

@benchodicals785 2 ай бұрын

@@DragpackRacingwho even are you😭😭😭

@ST.G8x 2 ай бұрын

@@DragpackRacingyo brother sorry to say but VTT been had these kits DONE for about a Year+ now. These kits starting production about 2-3 years ago. So no buddy, VTT did not steal your idea. I personally installed the first test kit on VTT’s Shop 340i a Year+ ago

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

@ really buddy ik the guy that makes the kit do you?? I can show you the original messages from over 2yrs plus!! My kit is a production kit . It doesn’t take that long to make a kit. The manifold for the this kit isn’t any different then there first kit that flopped. Only difference is the 60mm wastegate that don’t exist couldn’t even get that right. I also know when they started working on it I’ve been known. Like I said I have the evidence to back it up don’t care if you don’t believe. There’s a reason my kit works and there’s doesn’t and why mines still twin scrolls and there’s isn’t. So sorry about your luck you think you know but you don’t sorry. Oh I can also show you the messages where the person apologized a said sorry that’s how the world works. This isn’t first or last of my ideas to be stolen one the years but I’ve def learned a lot. It’s crazy people will think the earth is flat no problem. But won’t believe a bigger company would steal a smaller company’s idea 🤣. Only if you really knew.

@ST.G8x 2 ай бұрын

@@DragpackRacing ok so you have the very first production kit, and just got it installed recently. While I had the 1st VTT B58 Gen 1 production kit on a year+ Ago lol. And oh yeah that’s for the Gen 1 B58, they already BEEN had their B58 Gen 2 kit on their shop Supra before I even started working there. There’s a big difference between you and VTT. VTT been had these in production and did all their testing that’s needed and never said a word about it, while people like you try to go out and show the whole world that your the “first”. When in reality, you aren’t. Crazy how someone can steal your idea when no one even knew who you are nor knew you had that idea. Also I highly doubt you have the connection VTT Does, they needed a custom bracket made for the straight gate to mate to the stock EWG. And a couple other things other people wouldn’t be able to make/source. He had custom CNC machined brackets made after he got them designed, and they work good. How did you make the EWG connect to the straight gate on your setup?

@sphinxore4499 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see that Vargas wised up and used precision turbos for the kit instead of trying to make their own, I’m sure that would have gone about as well as their GC+ turbos

@1FastMKVSupra 2 ай бұрын

Awesome kit for folks looking at 1K+ WHP, looks pretty much plug and play as they have addressed most of the setup deviations here.

@kern417 2 ай бұрын

yeah sure seems like it. we'll see when people actually start trying it and posting results.

@nightdavva 2 ай бұрын

We have been doing this kind of set up with S58 and S55. Single turbo kits but with factory boost control and no controller. Works awesome and boost control is perfect. I wouldn’t bother with the traditional style external gates anymore.

@y00h000 2 ай бұрын

Oooooo I was waiting for this. They only had the S58 one a couple months ago. If I can get this with an open WG dump sign me up

@SrtRacerBoy 2 ай бұрын

Love seeing new shit like this. Always awesome to have more options that work like with OEM equipment. Now tuners need to decide if this falls under OEM/Hybrid turbo pricing since its oem wastegate controlled.

@behindthebuild8016 2 ай бұрын

Do a video on full frame bottom mount vs Top mount. I’d imagine making the runners that much longer to go top would effect the response and time in general it takes to make boost in the rev range?

@huh0123 2 ай бұрын

I encourage you to look at 4N Motorsports as well. They were out on plug and play kits for 1k+hp before Vargas was.

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

@@huh0123 I did this over a yr ago this i was my idea and they stole it i have all the proof i bet they won’t say nothing cause they know.

@DREGARCIA707 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the electronic waste gate is going to eventually fail from all the heat from manifold causing it to not work properly.

@salfloresf5841 2 ай бұрын

This may be a stupid question but I’m wanting a 440i, do you still need charge pipes then if you upgrade the turbos I don’t know too much about it

@SupraSav 2 ай бұрын

As soon as you start changing boost pressure, you change the charge pipe. Stock charge pipes are often made of plastic that will not hold up to increased boost pressure.

@sollykramer5672 2 ай бұрын

Black market race have a similar kit. No extension needed for the ewg plug

@jemery3 2 ай бұрын

Now they just need to make a catted dp version for those of us in nanny states

@twoods4663 2 ай бұрын

Are you gonna do another Black Friday deals video this year?

@kern417 2 ай бұрын

@@twoods4663 yes

@f22_b58 2 ай бұрын

Is the pulsar 6466 kits any good there like 4k?

@cynadrax 2 ай бұрын

I have one going in my S58 car in January.

@ST.G8x 2 ай бұрын

These VTT kits over KLM all day!! Only if more people knew about these kits

@y00h000 2 ай бұрын

Kevin, can you explain, why is it that top mount kits on the B58 mostly do away with the MAF sensor, but stock location kits keep it? How is it that the car can run without it?

@kern417 2 ай бұрын

because there's no space. the MAF sensor is redundant anyway. not really needed, it's mostly for checks at low load/cruising.

@y00h000 2 ай бұрын

@ thanks brother. I get there’s no space just couldn’t understand why all of the intake systems for stock location include it as if it’s necessary then top mounts just ditch it. I’ve seen a few people make little downturns for their top mounts, the KZbin guy with the silver top mount Supra comes to mind (I forget his name but the one that had the bad gas issue lol). Thanks for explaining.

@kern417 2 ай бұрын

@@y00h000 yeah just more "plug and play" vs having to code it out in a tune. But even with a CEL the car drives fine with the MAF unplugged. Newer cars don't come with a MAF at all

@JeffmanRSA 2 ай бұрын

@@kern417 It would be cool if they'd find a way to keep the Maf sensor on top mount turbo kits.

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

@@y00h000 no it’s cause that is not a maf sensor it only has 2 wires it can’t be it’s just a temp sensor.

@TheWeavingBagel 2 ай бұрын

My biggest issue with the kit is that it is not a twin scroll. There will be significantly more back pressure.

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

@@TheWeavingBagel mine is a twin scroll go check it out.

@todddooley793 2 ай бұрын

That price though

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

@@todddooley793 my kit is under 6k with a turbo

@M240Waheed 2 ай бұрын

Damn it it’s gen2

@branchprediction9923 2 ай бұрын

Gen 2 what?

@M240Waheed 2 ай бұрын

Gen 2 b58 only

@DragpackRacing 2 ай бұрын

Really you deleted it what you work for them or something crazy.

@techbutter2877 2 ай бұрын

If only DI only is good enough to fuel big turbos

@christopherowen9081 2 ай бұрын

@techbitter2877 there is multiple aftermarket DI injectors that will support these larger turbos

@behindthebuild8016 2 ай бұрын

These turbos can push so much air into your engine you can stay di but you’re always going to be limiting how much boost you can run as you want be able to supply the full to get the most out of it

@behindthebuild8016 2 ай бұрын

*Won’t be able

@christopherowen9081 2 ай бұрын

Stock engine will not hold what the aftermarket DI injectors are capable of supporting. 800+ wheel stock pistons and rods will not hold that kind of power for very long. So for stock setups which most people are running, you can support those turbos with DI and hpfp which is also another limiting factor. There is already company's make injectors that are out pacing what the pumps can supply. 1k wheel can be made on DI with built motor.

@techbutter2877 2 ай бұрын

@@christopherowen9081 im on every b58 fb group. i have not seen a 1000whp b58 DI only setup lol. and i rarely seen any DI only setup running more than E50.