This base BREAKS Horde Night! - 7 Days to Die v1.0

[@CautiousPancake]

FAQ - thanks for all the questions - here's my effort to answer them! 1) Does it stop vultures - yes, they spawn on the ground to start, and so are blocked by this same approach 2) Does it stop screamers - not with this configuration - screamers can spawn much further out - quick testing was at least 75 to 80m from the central point. Testing with a 90x90 area covered in blocks, it did successfully prevent a screamer from spawning (console log shows screamer spawn failed). Note that I have not tested the upper range for screamer spawn distance though. 3) Does it work for bedrock/going up really high - Yes, stay within the 5x5 area and it doesn't matter how high or low you go. See test at 14:30 where I tried a small version of this, but I've also tested bedrock post video. 4) What blocks can I use - player blocks obviously, frames, wood, cobble, concrete, steel. Can't use terrain blocks like destroyed stone, stone, or dirt, zombies will spawn on those. I did try with crops (corn) and that seemed to work, however this was the poi version not naturally planed, so that could be bad info - use with caution.

[@pipboythreek]

What about asphalt blocks you make ?

[@elliwesishawkins4799]

@@CautiousPancake additionally, when picking where to spawn it picks the north/south east/west first then chooses the highest elevation blocks. This stops zombies from spawning in caves/mines or inside houses since some pois have a concrete variation that allowed zombies to spawn. This isn’t super useful for just placing the initial structure unless the area has a lot of hills and you can’t be sure if you filled it all in you can instead make Pillers and a flat roof filled in 30-50m out from the standing block (pixel circle generators are great for this) and zombies will not spawn on the terrain blocks below the roof Edit: if the elevation thing doesn’t make sense I did post a video like 3-4 years ago on the spawning and it’s right at the end like last 5 minutes where I was testing the roof blocking the spawns. It still works in 1.0 the same way as it does in that video

[@idklol5670]

this has given me tons of ideas, what if you left a chunk open for zombies to spawn, having them spawn right into turrets, spikes, blade traps, a fall pit, is spawn camping zombies a new possibility? 😂

[@idklol5670]

you may also be able to turn this spawn location on / off by using a switch and garage door to cover the spawn pad

[@idklol5670]

hypothetically

[@advisorrook]

Exactly what I came down here to say!

[@thincrediblewho]

This is literally how mob farms in Minecraft work. You make everywhere non-spawnable except where you want them to spawn, and funnel them to whatever method you're using to kill them. Since Minecraft will only attempt to spawn if there are under X number of mobs in an area, and only spawns if there is a place to spawn, you have to move them off the spawning area and kill them efficiently so the game will spawn at almost every interval. I could see something similar working in 7dtd. I'm just not how 7dtd decides whether to spawn a mob. In MC, it's a measure of how much *potentially* spawnable area exists, so if you've got 10,000 potentially spawnable blocks and only 10 that are actually spawnable, you'll have far more spawns than if you were on an island of 100 potentially spawnable blocks and 10 actually spawnable. Giving less spawnable area in 7dtd might just mean fewer spawns. I don't know if you could spawn zombies right on your traps, but assuming you can force spawns in a set area, you could definitely make your traps the path of least resistance from the spawnable area to you.

[@tpeel6309]

I don't think it's possible to build a base better than this! No real defenses needed. Flow control for horde nights. Thank you CP for the info!

[@Rooster_Gold]

A Minecraft circle generator would make this easier

[@CautiousPancake]

Hehe probably! I was really hoping it would be more diamond shaped 😄

[@tnwhiskey68]

Haha I know right! I always struggled with Minecraft circles and domes until I found those generators!

[@FraterAleph]

I was looking for this comment. Always use the minecraft circle generator

[@elliwesishawkins4799]

This is how I did this years ago when the ocean base was popular on KZbin. Turns out, the mechanic picks its coordinate 30-50 blocks away and then attempts to spawn on the highest elevation block. Because the ocean had water blocks, it would attempt to spawn on top of the water and water has CanSpawn set to false so they don’t spawn. Regular zombies don’t spawn this way, which is why in JaWoodles ocean base video (prolly 3 years old now) a zombie had spawned regularly Under the water on the terrain blocks and joined the horde after spawning.

[@mort3020]

Plotz

[@ZephyrDaCrow]

I like how 7D2D zombies slowly fade in when they spawn. It makes it much more subtle if you're not looking directly at where they spawn.

[@RageyRage82]

That tabbit at 6:18 is the one you really need to worry about. Vicious!

[@samiam4544]

This game needs a feral radiated zombie rabbit that can only be killed with The Holy Hand Grenade of Navsgane.

[@RageyRage82]

@@samiam4544 here's a stack of 10,000 dukes for getting the reference.

[@DarthPeachy]

That was a lot of work in terms of investigation and testing, then the recording and editing on top. Not a base I''m ever likely to use but always appreciate the effort you put in.

[@indoorjetpacks]

This is silly. I love it. It does give me ideas for setting up one chunk that's spawnable and trapped all to hell

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks and that's exactly the type of shenanigans I'd love to see :D

[@seanmcgurgan76]

For players that do want to fight the horde normally, this could be a great main base concept to prevent screamers spawning in, I wonder how that would work practically

[@CautiousPancake]

I tested screamers too - just gotta make it bigger to block them as well - out to about 90 blocks from an initial test, possibly bigger, but that certainly blocked some screamers!

[@RO_The_Hated]

Nice CP such a great example of a way to waste a ton of time and resources to be extra lazy. On point for the slackers like me!

[@jayxhuit6000]

Work extra hard once, then laze away. My motto also😂👍 i think its also called working smart🤷‍♂️

[@CautiousPancake]

hehe exactly - as many have said you can also leave a little spawn location put a wall around it and add lots of traps if you want a few zombies :)

[@jimbartosevich498]

Jawoodle: "I am the king of cheese!" CautiousPancake: "Pfft. I'm Wisconsin."

[@coreyrunyon7678]

Now what if you tried a controlled spawn base? Similar to this but you leave a few spots in the ring open so you know the zombies will spawn there and trap them. 😁 Great video!

[@snarkyeconomist2141]

Set the Spawn points inside a walled area. Only path out is lines with blade traps.

[@pamlange7289]

The challenge "killing Zombies completed" at the very beginning...😬 I like this idea. Another way to get your loot bags safely collected. And alone learning the fact about this spawning mechanism...😊

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks! It's always good to know what mechanisms there are that we can fiddle with!

[@Unlimited121120]

not gonna lie i've done this on one of my more casual play throughs just to not deal with screamers started with a 100x100 pad and slowly expanded it out so give me no fear from running excessive amounts forges and cement mixers

[@CautiousPancake]

Nice! I did a quick test as well and this will stop screamers from spawning if you go out bigger - I had screamers in the 70-80 range so covered 180x180 and screamers failed to spawn! But man that would be a lot of blocks in a real game :D

[@Unlimited121120]

@@CautiousPancake Yea... I regretted it at first. As i started with the basic frames and upgraded them however it shot my level way up and my gear was lacking for the game stage. However Even after i set up a new base elsewhere I kept coming back to it and eventually however it grew into a sort of fortified village city. First time I had ever done a large ascetics playthrough so while i regretted it at first by the late game i was actually having fun with it. Though wish i had kept that save but i didn't think about keeping old saves when i cleared them all out when 1.0 dropped

[@CautiousPancake]

@@Unlimited121120 oh no on the save cleanout! at least you had fun with it!

[@Unlimited121120]

@@CautiousPancake Yea the game has come a long way but is still a lot of fun. I still remember when I first started playing and struggling to even just get through the first horde night back in alpha 16-17. And grateful to the online contributors like yourself for the efforts of posting various mechanics, tricks, and tips along the way.

[@GamingAfter50]

Well! Thanks for this CP! This is a very unique concept, and if one puts in the work, one can control the zombies even more than we can now. 👍

[@JPNixon-hu2jd]

Very thorough as usual CP! Thank you. Looking to the next question your video should create, my guess is that a screamer (as your answers to questions cover) will spawn, but the spawn distance for the horde that a screamer will summon is the same as the player's horde night distance that you demonstrate in this video. That should mean screamers can spawn around a fabrication base when you light campfires/forges/etc. BUT, if you cover the ground with blocks as you recommend in this video AND account for a margin OUTSIDE the base walls. Then, when the screamers come in, they can bang on the walls and summon their horde - but nothing should be summoned b/c there are no available spawn-capable blocks for those zeds. Again, this is a fantastic video! Thank you for taking that kind of time to isolate the spawn points.

[@doczoff5655]

If you mark the centre point on the map with a red temporary waypoint marker, it will tell you how many metres you are away from it, which could help keep things circular.

[@CautiousPancake]

Nice tip, thanks!

[@NathanSeabolt]

Great job, as always! I appreciate your commitment to the absurd.

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks Nathan! I'm nothing if not absurd :D

[@BTWatson1]

This reminds of JaWoodle’s recent video with that massive concrete abomination he built, was the the inspiration here?

[@StepNineGroup]

Didn't he still get spawns though? Maybe the dirt inner ring changes the spawning.

[@mementomori5580]

Frankly, if you're going to that extend to make something like this, you might as well also use a proper Circle Generator for Minecraft or so. Edit: Looking at one, you can see that the "start" is always very wide. For a Radius 51 Circle, you basically start with 7 blocks towards the side, then on in is 5 blocks long, the next two in are each 3 blocks long.

[@zeloguy]

I'm assuming this is the reason for this video but you most definitely made the most ridiculous AFK base in the history of 7D2D. LOVE IT!

[@CautiousPancake]

Yeah this was just for fun and to confirm if it could be done 🤣

[@eightchickens]

You spent a lot of work for this video :). Thanks. They could easily patch this though, maybe like "can't spawn for > 5s, spawn on player block anyway" ... or "increase radius"

[@CautiousPancake]

Yeah, agreed it's easy to change, especially if they allow further out spawns, the number of blocks needed to defend it goes up fast! Spawning on player blocks I feel they won't do so that you don't accidentally get zombies inside your base.

[@jdszombieremovalservice2394]

It's not dumb if it works😁 Great video! This opens up some cool possibilities🤔, like forcing hordes to spawn into 1 specific location.

[@CautiousPancake]

Exactly! Although they can take a while to spawn with this approach as they only spawn in a quadrant for a while, so you could get nothing for most of the night.

[@cynic5581]

Based on the comments you should make a video on dealing the screamers. Pseudo Posse has one but you can never have too many videos. Personally I just use a hatch in the doorway of my home base where I do all my crafting. I’ll be on second floor with no path to me (ladder you need to jump to). When I hear a screamer I’ll hop down to the first floor and defend the base from the hatch. I’m generally fast enough to prevent them from calling in a horde. Minor annoyance at worst, something to break the monotony of crafting and organizing loot at best. Honestly surprised so many people hate fighting all the zombies in their zombie fighting game.

[@JohnTheMutt]

Great test Cautious! I'm guessing the horizontal worked for vultures as well since they didn't spawn in either? Perhaps they also require a natural terrain requirement but simply spawn at elevation... I remember in older alphas when I had very large and spread out bases that sometimes the zombies would spawn in my garden...but it was using the old system with soil, etc... I've not tested that with farm plots. Once again, thanks for all the hard work and testing you do and sharing it. :D

[@alliedanchor8864]

I'm pretty sure vultures spawn on the ground and fly up

[@CautiousPancake]

Vultures spawn on the ground and fly up (good all @alliedanchor8864) which is why this stops them as well if you've got a big monitor you can see one flapping on the right side of the screen at 1:21

[@stevdor6146]

you've done what no woodle could ever hope to pull off

[@CautiousPancake]

No one will believe me I'm sure, but it was total coincidence that this followed JaWoodles!

[@terryrhuebottom]

This is definitely a project where the minecraft circle template tool webpage would help.

[@PJF62]

A good indication of the vertical calculation was the absence of vultures, I wondered if they would spawn but your ladder findings sort of answered that. But the potential for shaping the areas where zombies can spawn is what we poms would understate as, 'Interesting', lol.

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks PJF! Vultures also spawn on the ground first, so this covers all horde night zombies the same :)

[@PJF62]

@@CautiousPancake Ah ok, I didn't think that through very well, haha.

[@CautiousPancake]

@@PJF62 All good - it's only cause I saw them when doing the pins that I learned that!

[@bttmlesspit25]

Nice to use that concept to now funnel hord night zombies in to allow a frontal assault only

[@CautiousPancake]

For sure!

[@gawf99]

Good ol Minecraft style spawn proofing. Love it

[@conradsurak6060]

I set up a base on top of the bridge by Savage Country and not a single zombie showed up even after firing my shotgun

[@samiam4544]

Horde Henge. The safe place.

[@CautiousPancake]

Love it!

[@TheRandyGr]

I did something similar in my last world (the previous version) by covering the ground with plates but I started in the center and just kept adding.

[@krisbrixon]

I think it does range on the diagonal, it's just that the diagonal will always be a larger number than the horizontal.

[@wizardgaming758]

Nice one. I love these sorts of videos. JaWoodle did one similar, lol. I also love how you kept that bunny in the same spot the whole time. New pet?

[@CautiousPancake]

Yeah - he was my buddy! I need to go find JaWoodles vid now :)

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Oo, interesting that rabbits still spawned on the blocks unlike the Zs, this could double as a great edible animal farm

[@CautiousPancake]

I think that poor wabbit got stuck with the AI off and was there during the whole build :) I suspect rabbit spawns are also blocked

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

@@CautiousPancake oh, that would make more sense, poor little dude

[@erickrampitz8933]

I believe they spawn between a 25 -radius circle, and a 50-radius circle from the player position. And, as someone else mentioned, a 'minecraft circle generator' (shows you how to make a 'circle' with square blocks) could be useful. Back several versions ago, I actually did this on the Navezgane map. In the south desert, there's a road intersection that is pretty flat. I ran there, chopping every tree I could. Planted the tree seeds nearby, made frames, and started making the 25 and 50 circles on the ground and filling in between them. I was easily able to make it before the first horde night. As you said, it's possible, but not practical: It keeps you safe from the horde, which is the ultimate goal of the game, but it removes the entire point of the game, which is to *fight* the zombies. It's a tactic that would be useful in 'real life', but sucks the fun away in games. :-)

[@RichardShunnery]

Great work!

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks!

[@dogfacemarc7784]

Very interesting. I wonder: Will this work for a crafting base with Screamer hordes? Just make the circle larger. It seems like it should. This could be cheap with wood for the circle. Thank you for this not so "dumb" idea.

[@CautiousPancake]

A quick test and this will stop screamers from spawning if you go out bigger - I had screamers in the 70-80 range so covered 180x180 and screamers failed to spawn! But man that would be a lot of blocks in a real game :D

[@Rengray2]

I think you should try this "horde base" out in the 1.1 experimental version. I believe you will get quite different results than what you're getting in the 1.0 release.

[@CautiousPancake]

ok, can do - did you see something in the notes that would make you think that?

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Yeah, being able to make a single spawn spot is… hilariously strong

[@yagatami]

Can't wait for this to get fixed.... Let's pray it's not gonna get fixed by making it possible for them to spawn on player blocks.

[@CautiousPancake]

Yeah hopefully just push the range out a bit!

[@yagatami]

@@CautiousPancake to be fair, I don't think range matters much. It would just mean building out more.

[@jeremydanchuk1897]

could use this to create a guaranteed landing zone for the zombies and trap the hell out of it with turrets and electric fences

[@CautiousPancake]

Absolutely!

[@adamant4107]

Interesting that they spawn so close now. Used to be they would spawn up to 64 blocks away. Wonder when and why they changed it.

[@ricb7418]

Thx for all the effort

[@CautiousPancake]

My pleasure!

[@Jan-j9v]

good video thanks. So ideally an area of ​​50×50

[@nicksciencerat]

53 radius, so 106x106

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks! If you're going with the full area blocked out so you don't have to worry about the circle it would be 106x106 as @nicksciencerat says. It's a lot of blocks!

[@Jan-j9v]

@@CautiousPancake OK . I need wood a lot of wood

[@TDurden527]

Another brilliant victory over the Fun Pimps! I wonder . . . will any player placed block or object prevent the z's from spawning like trees, or say cotton plant?

[@MrMacavity]

Beautiful 👍😆

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks MrMac :)

[@janmars2343]

LOL, not bad :-) but the Horde Night is important so that I can get experience points faster. Nobody needs a base like that, but thank you for the test and crazy idea. 🙂

[@CautiousPancake]

Hehe all good - it's not very practical I agree!

[@TomasFatality]

Great informations! Thank you :)

[@CautiousPancake]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Enterprise4Life]

Im curious on how this breaks bird spawning since they spawn in the air

[@TDurden527]

Brilliant! Your suggestion could start a whole series of lazy ways to defeat and destroy the FP's.

[@elliwesishawkins4799]

In my experience vultures spawn on the ground and then fly up to find you, so this should still effect them

[@weldabar]

They don't spawn in the air. They spawn on the ground and then fly. Source: some video I saw this past month, can't remember which one.

[@murphy2870]

Hey pancakes. Zombies don't seem to want to cross the little wooden bridge at the steer gulch POI. I like watching this stuff but I couldn't be bothered testing it. Thought you might want to check it out.

[@theworm2105]

Steer gulch? Thats a new one for me, is it on any map of navezgane only? Details please and thank you? Sounds interesting.

[@alexandercamelbakalvarez6904]

Hey Cautious. Big fan here could you talk about the different vanilla weapon mods and a relative tier list with them as well? I seem to discover a new mod each day I play and don’t really understand what can or can’t be equipped. A video describing these mods might seriously help new players in conserving their limited resources on arguably worthless mods.

[@alexandercamelbakalvarez6904]

A tool and weapon mod list. Answering questions like, what mods should I put on my nail gun, what mods are comparable between weapons/tools, and what realistic mods are worth building/ versus waiting to build.

[@craigcook3801]

That's sick as fuck.. something I'd never use for a horde base as that's the premise of the game but I wonder if it would be viable for a home base to prevent screamer spawns

[@CautiousPancake]

A quick test and this will stop screamers from spawning if you go out bigger - I had screamers in the 70-80 range so covered 180x180 and screamers failed to spawn! But man that would be a lot of blocks in a real game :D

[@ceto9125]

This is a challenge on a game server with only one standard claim block 41 x 41. Do not leave the area... 🤣

[@CautiousPancake]

haha yeah chunk reset will not be friends with this base :D

[@Oktokolo]

Oh boy will some hate the obvious and easy-to-implement fix for this...

[@maliphuslocksport1290]

In the old version on console you could use cooking fires under your bottleneck or dropper point to light all falling zombies on fire... I just thought of putting camp fire under your thin pole walkway would it light passing zombies? I'll have to try it in new version and I wonder if ticks would prevent destroy all mode etc or put one at bottom of ladder or stairs or ramp to horde base

[@SoulbreakerNB]

I just build a base so big that they literally can't spawn. I made it so I used 30 land claim blocks side by side and made a huge base. 2 72x72 layer land claim blocks as my boundary did the trick. I also made it so land claim blocks expire after 9999 days so I dont have to replace them lmao

[@CautiousPancake]

That'll do it :)

[@MrTexascold]

Thats a gouda cheese!

[@CautiousPancake]

Hehe, yummy 😋

[@OddlyIncredible]

As soon as TFP see this, they're going to rush out a patch to "fix" it. They really _really_ do _not_ like it when people cheese the game.

[@CautiousPancake]

Maybe - it's something that's been around forever though, I suspect the number of blocks required will mean most players don't bother.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Wow this makes me feel kind of stupid i used to build bases with a wall then 2 sapces and another all id keep going till the game got way to easy 😂 i think only some were spawning at all anymore

[@kevinsiscoe]

Awesome video! Any idea if this also prevents the bird spawns?

[@bartliff]

Yes it will, because the birds spawn on the ground and then take flight to come to you.

[@CautiousPancake]

Hi Kevin, @bartliff called it, the bird spawn on the ground as well, this blocks all the horde night zombies!

[@kellenanthoney4588]

I would prefer zombies spawning much further away, so I could build a huge base, without zombies spawning inside. The whole zombie spawning system really really takes away from the game...

[@carthagodelenda9014]

Beautiful bit of work, CP! Tastily reckoned. :)

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks so much - a little tasty cheese for the weekend :)

[@markmongan]

You hacked the world! You're like Neo!

[@CautiousPancake]

I Know Kung-Fu!

[@flashskape5]

if it was sqr how big is the box outer edge? 60 x 60?

[@CautiousPancake]

if you go square, it'll be 106x106! (from the middle to the outer edge of one side is 53).

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@CautiousPancake then that's 107x107. 🧐

[@CautiousPancake]

@@irrelevant_noob me blocks count good! 🤣

[@darenvalnys7718]

Another victory of Cautious pancakes on Jawoodle ! no offense for him it's my favourite muppet, but it's really interesting to see you make it work with some good method, when he was scrambling a lot with his chaotic ways of things !

[@dreamingacacia]

this could work if you play mp servers and need AFK on horde night. but it's suck in general. gotta need a functional AFK base that's not required the maintenance.

[@CautiousPancake]

I've got plenty of other AFK bases that might be more your speed then, kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip-yn6WQeZx8jck

[@dreamingacacia]

@@CautiousPancake I watched many of your vids but didn't get to this one yet. gotta watch now.

[@johnsquires4654]

How to make a circle in minecraft tutorial wil help 😅

[@CautiousPancake]

Lol, you don't like the smooshed version? 🤣

[@BuioPestato]

can you do a similar research for screamer spawning mechanic? imagine, a house that does not get screamer attacks! 😁

[@CautiousPancake]

A quick test and this will stop screamers from spawning if you go out bigger - I had screamers in the 70-80 range so covered 180x180 and screamers failed to spawn! But man that would be a lot of blocks in a real game :D

[@BuioPestato]

@@CautiousPancake yeah, fun times with wooden frames and stone axe 😅

[@CautiousPancake]

@@BuioPestato ahhh the gentle sounds of deforestation one chop at a time 🤣

[@f8keuser]

bro could have just selected a huge square area and set it to wood shapes...

[@CautiousPancake]

It would have worked, but I wouldn't know why! Plus this way confirms a variety of block types, including the much cheaper frames.

[@mikebottorff593]

Bro you have broken it 😂

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks :) Always fun to mess with a new mechanic!

[@Tinkster75]

what if you just take the ladder up 75 ish blocks so that the ground is outside of the spawn range?

[@CautiousPancake]

Vertical distance doesn't affect the ground spawn distance - check the test at 14:30 :)

[@bugfeatures]

Would this also work if you used just sand or some dirt? So it would just look like the regular ground

[@CautiousPancake]

Good question thanks! I tested this and it doesn't work for terrain objects, so sand/dirt/stone/destroyed stone don't work.

[@bugfeatures]

@@CautiousPancake to bad, would be nice for a hidden afk pvp base. Build everything underground and put another "natural" layer on the ground.

[@CautiousPancake]

@@bugfeatures Ah yeah - that's a nice plan - not to be unfortunately. Even if you tried painting the blocks - I think gravel is the closest and that's going to be a bit of a give away :D

[@bugfeatures]

@@CautiousPancake well that only leaves building a giant "already raided" fake base on top

[@pipboythreek]

Does this break all spawns or just blood moon? Any any tile work like just plain building blocks?

[@idonttext9783]

weird because you want them to spawn need the points

[@CautiousPancake]

You can still run out to get as many zombies as you want! Totally optional to do this of course 😀

[@vystaz]

you gotta use a minecraft circle generator man

[@vystaz]

i take it back i like the octagon

[@codystromsness2130]

I've seen sooo soo many afk bases to farm exp but oddly the people making the videos talking about the bass usely forget to let players kmow how much of each resorce,perks items and so on to make the base only to find out later through base the content makers are bragging about they made in creative mode and think new,casual and normal player have the time or resorces to make the bases😂 its easy to maks afk or exp farm base bass that is a massive complex if you can spawn resorces whenever you can. People need to relise to time and resocrese to make late game exp horde nigh farm bases.

[@theroguetomato5362]

Why won't zombies spawn on player blocks? Is that just a design decision they made?

[@pilkington6079]

Yes, imagine you build a base and while ur away zombies spawn inside. Or you're just the perfect distance from your base and half of horde night spawns in it. They need a way to get to you. So they'd make one... From the inside out.

[@CautiousPancake]

That's my understanding as well, it was a design decision so that zombies don't spawn inside your base defences, which would be frustrating! Given how many blocks you need to do this, I think this is a fair approach!

[@superezbz]

Pretty boring base, but excellent information. I might use this to "control" where my zombies spawn so I can funnel them exactly where I want them.

[@CautiousPancake]

Agreed Ezbz - don't think I'll be building this in game any time soon, but it could come in handy to know at some point!

[@WitBlaed]

fascinating. There are far more material efficient ways to afk the horde. This looks like a lot of work to build for no reason.

[@CautiousPancake]

Oh absolutely - I've definitely built easier AFK bases, but this is the only one that actually prevents zombie spawning rather than managing the zombies once spawned - thought it was an interesting alternate mechanic to dig into.

[@WitBlaed]

@@CautiousPancake It could be useful information to know if you planned to build a gigantic facility to play in. That you could accidentally prevent the horde spawning is not something I ever even considered. So good info either way! :)

[@Lionsraws66]

Why would anyone wish to play the game like this 😂🎉

[@CautiousPancake]

I did say it was dumb 🤣

[@Gandhi_Physique]

Does this only work for horde night? or do normal spawns have different rules?

[@CautiousPancake]

Normal spawns have different rules yes. Having said that, while messing around with this base post video, I don't recall ever seeing a normal zombie spawn, so it's possible this blocks them as well! Throw in a land claim at the middle to be even more protected :)

[@Zonker66]

Would have liked to see if you went to bedrock, if it'd still work. From the video, it should... still... I have my doubts.

[@CautiousPancake]

Good question - and yes, it works for bedrock - if you dig straight down and stay in the 5x5 area, it works exactly the same - will add this to a FAQ pinned comment :)

[@rb2530]

How does that work against Screamers?

[@fletchslade5718]

This was my thought as well.

[@CautiousPancake]

A did a quick test and this will stop screamers from spawning if you go out bigger - I had screamers in the 70-80 range so covered 180x180 and screamers failed to spawn! But man that would be a lot of blocks in a real game :D

[@fletchslade5718]

@@CautiousPancake Thow out some building blocks and then upgrade. Think of the exp!!!!!

[@CautiousPancake]

@@fletchslade5718 it'd take some doing but you're right exp for days!

[@rogerwhitney7720]

😆😉👍

[@tyskaggs3293]

Make a garage build plz Also first

[@CautiousPancake]

A garage build being how to add a garage to your base? Or how to make a base from a garage in a poi?

[@tyskaggs3293]

@@CautiousPancake how to make a garage on your base

[@lte7609]

yep u stole the idea from other guy.. but u didnt buuild it like him...

[@rickywood8805]

Oooooorrr, now this is just an idea because ei know little about the zombie AI and stuff, just build a nerd pole up to skybox? Wouldn't everything be out of range at that point? No need for all this nonsense

[@CautiousPancake]

If you just nerd pole up without doing this, the zombies will still spawn in the normal range, then run in and destroy the bottom of the pole :) - see test at 14:30

[@rickywood8805]

@@CautiousPancake but isn't the spawn range 30-50 blocks? And you can nerd pole up like 80-100? I'll take your word for it of course, you are the pro after all I'm just a Newby console peasant 😂

[@tootsitroll9785]

Don’t get your logic guy ????? So you want a base they can get you then ???? I’m the o.g inventor of that concept also I seen floating bases now Ben doing that also before anyone else.

[@cadubr21]

meu amigo voce e um genio

[@CautiousPancake]

Thanks!