Srsly CP, you do all the detailed work on topics that I ask myself so often but I never have the endurance to actually test it all out as sophisticated as you do 😄 Thanks alot ! There is always something I did not know about on your videos 🙏
@indestruct1bl347 минут бұрын
"The design is very human." But in all seriousness, love this design, may have to give it a go in creative mode before using real materials.
@soulstice9450 минут бұрын
wait, they DESPAWN?! I've always played with a 90 minute/18 hour day cycle so I've been potentially/probably missing out on loot T_T
@RednekGaming33Сағат бұрын
Just realized I’ve been watching you for a while now and haven’t subscribed, there you go.
@AsukaSellerieСағат бұрын
Hey! About destroying the lootbags... if a house collapse, the bags are gone too? Glitched into another world? Or are they findable?
@KillAllNoobs02 сағат бұрын
so that last bit, loot stage does increase by being in a PoI but game stage does not. in my mind this means that horde nights wont be stronger based on you being in a PoI, although they will be based on biome. is there anywhere that says otherwise?
@superezbz2 сағат бұрын
Another great vid Pancake! Thanks!
@justinsellers94024 сағат бұрын
Interesting ideas. I enjoyed your video.
@justinsellers94024 сағат бұрын
Great info. Thank you! I use 2 hour days, so knowing and not just suspecting that the bags will despawn is very helpful.
@shaunbush-trivett69654 сағат бұрын
Trying to build this, still unsure how it works though aha XD, wish me luck
5 сағат бұрын
additional tip while digging with a pickaxe, sneak first before swinging because it will reduce the heat generated, preventing screamer spawns
@KingDirtyThunderblade-hi4yf7 сағат бұрын
This is so fucking boring
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
Yep, that was a concern for sure, sorry if it wasn't up to standard.
@ricb74182 сағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancakenope, not boring at all, information is key.
@KenjanzСағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancake I liked it
@JohnA...7 сағат бұрын
This is T(anti)FP we are talking about here. Of course the extra 20% is only of the base amount. And from the number of bags dropped at the end it seems like it lines up there.
@CautiousPancake5 сағат бұрын
Agree that seems to be the case on this one.
@Make6fresleygaming8 сағат бұрын
I have notice it's hard to lootbags if the zombi have died in spikes?
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
Hard to get to them you mean? It is sometimes! Try a scaffold of wood frames in, that can help.
@ricb74182 сағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancakeAlso loot bags in spikes are almost always impossible to loot without destroying the spikes to get the option to loot them. I think I have only been able to loot one bag in spikes.
@Make6fresleygamingСағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancake Yes sorry my English is not that good but that what I meant
@adamjfigol1238 сағат бұрын
Not sure what setting is switched but my bags never disappear at all had same bags from day 59 to 75so hmmmmm not sure
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
Interesting 🤔 playing with mods or vanilla?
@W1se0ldg33zer8 сағат бұрын
These have been changed around a few times. I do remember trying to explain how the loot works and how high the odds can get to find something specific such as small engines. Glock 9 was trying to get one to drop and you have to understand how odds work for a game such as craps where the amounts of times you throw won't effect the odds any. Same thing here -- it might be a one in 10,000 chance you roll a small engine and each time you open a bag it's always one in 10,000 chance - so opening up a thousand bags won't make any difference.
@W1se0ldg33zer8 сағат бұрын
Trying to get a specific magazine to drop looks like that would be a fairly high odds. There's what - over a thousand? Hundreds? don't know. I do know there's been a lot of times where I only needed just a hand full of schematics or magazines to get them all and wouldn't ever get those to drop for me. Due to how high the odds are. It's the same thing - opening up a thousand mailboxes makes no difference.
@CautiousPancake5 сағат бұрын
Agree - with the number of factors required to line up a small engine - it's in theory possible, but gotta be very small!
@jaxsonbateman8 сағат бұрын
Great video! Learnt a few things, including the main thing that lead me here (whether or not loot bags despawn during horde night).
@CautiousPancake5 сағат бұрын
Glad I could help!
@SnivyTries9 сағат бұрын
I legitimately want to know who asked for the 1.0 changes across the board. From what I'm seeing from the community, it seems like they just made a LOT of changes that make the experience worse overall with 1.0. Farming, mining, fighting...
@CautiousPancake5 сағат бұрын
Yeah, on one hand, they stick to their guns and are building out their vision of the game, which is good. Some of it just needs a balance pass and it would be fine - other parts just need more work, or a different approach - it's still a fun game for me - I'll play until it's not, but just because it scratches an itch other survival games don't!
@rafaelzimrp9 сағат бұрын
Wow great editting!
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
Thanks, Ive still got a lot to learn on the editing side!
@1Jimbobs10 сағат бұрын
Could the 20% drop chance increase the odds of the extra categories of loot inside lootbags rather than the drop rate of the bags themselves. In the video it looked like you were getting more extra categories than usual at the end.
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
It's not supposed to! I think that's just RNG, sometimes you get a good streak, sometimes not so much.
@bellycar870210 сағат бұрын
Incredible video dude, very well done.
@CautiousPancake7 сағат бұрын
Thanks a ton! 😊
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
As always, there's an edge case to point out! Thanks to @IamF4ng- @konradfoyle and @niyls who pointed out that falling terrain blocks *can* force a despawn on loot bags. Some quick testing confirms that if you pile enough falling blocks on top of an area covered in loot bags, then some of them can despawn when covered by the popup terrain blocks that are created when the falling block is destroyed. So watch out for falling bases on top of loot bag piles as you could lose some bags this way! Thanks as always for everyone sharing their knowledge - I love this community!
@jeremiahjohnson751513 сағат бұрын
7 days to Die became a zombie when they decided to charge $50 for an update. The only people still playing are those that refused to play a game that's 'new' but has been out for a decade. Suckers.
@josesaldanha268313 сағат бұрын
Best way to get good loot: make your horde base on the edge of wasteland and forest, with the fighting position on the wasteland. Wait for the horde to beggin on the forest side and fight on the wasteland. Use the best rogue hood with eye candy.
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
Great tip!
@josesaldanha268313 сағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancake It may seens cheesing, but I think is quite fair, it takes some efort and danger to make a base on the wasteland, also is normaly out of the way.
@danielchin419813 сағат бұрын
@josesaldanha2683 i dont blame you. Only insane people base deep inside the wasteland. Heck even basing near it will probably get you visits from zombie bears sometimes.
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
@@josesaldanha2683 oh 100% - compared to the cheesy stuff I pull with my bases, this is fine 🤣 - it's also a deliberate mechanic by the devs, so I think there's no issue with it. Given the number of dogs, bears, cops and mutated in the wasteland - if you can survive there early, you deserve the better loot!
@konradfoyle14 сағат бұрын
I hate to be that guy 😂 But actually, loot bags can be destroyed, found out the hard way. At the very end of my Day 14 horde zombies were able to destroy all support for my base and brought it down. Any loot bags i had below me despawned, lost a couple blue bags and a red one.
@niyls14 сағат бұрын
Yes, there is a problem with blocks and bags where bags can be despawned because of collision or something like that, it can happen with buried treasure if you close the chest while stuff is still inside, which will spawn a bag, and this bag can sometimes get destroyed when it is too close to terrain blocks. The option to drop bag on death can also apparently cause the bag to be destroyed, and then there is your example of "destroyed" blocks getting spawned near lootbags.
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
Don't worry about being that guy - there's always a bloody edge case that I miss, no matter how solid I think I have the research! I've added a pinned comment to flag that this scenario exists - did a quick test to confirm it and for sure it's a thing! Thanks to you, and niyls for flagging it!
@zebrin15 сағат бұрын
One of the reasons you got so few loot bags during the rocket launcher testing, is that loot bags have health. If you attack them, they will take damage, and eventually be destroyed. Rockets don't have much damage to blocks, but entities like lootbags?
@niyls14 сағат бұрын
09:07 mentions the bag's health not being a thing, with demonstration
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
Thanks @niyls - came here to say that :) Also I used the rockets that do lots of block damage (and also tried the zombie damage alternates) with no effect on the loot bag.
@user-eq1by7ho2q15 сағат бұрын
Cant trust KZbin even in my mind, I thought of searching this topic up this morning and here it is being recommended out of nowhere lol
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
haha perfect!
@IamF4ng-15 сағат бұрын
So, i had a horde base that was ripped down mid blood moon and i had quite a bit of loot bags that were on the ground, but when the blocks collapsed on top of them i think they broke them. Not sure if thats actually the case or not but might be something worth looking into
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
Thanks so much for flagging this - did a quick test and for sure it's a thing - if the block turns into terrain in just the wrong spot it can despawn a loot bag that's there. I've added a pinned comment to flag it to others!
@drdin865715 сағат бұрын
Are you using a mod to spawn things or is it from the game, if it is a mod can you send it, thanks and great video.
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
It's part of the game when you're in creative mod (if you're on PC on singleplayer, hit F1 to open console then type "cm") then you can hit F6 to open the spawn menu. It's useful for testing these sort of things!
@bttmlesspit2516 сағат бұрын
I am wondering if due to the fact your RL was kill all zombies at the same time the game was having issues actually doing a proper calc. Could you kill them in less fast and have different results I am wondering. Also wondering how long inbetween before the rest of the counter
@CautiousPancake12 сағат бұрын
Good question to ask - I did a couple of those test with the sniper and got similar results on drop rates. Similarly I did 50 direwolves at once (using killall) and got 50 loot bags, so I don't think doing them all at once is an issue. Not sure what you mean on the "how long in between" question?
@SueFisher_AU16 сағат бұрын
Thanks CautiousPancake, heaps of good info there! I hadn't noticed that loot bags were no longer destructible... I won't need to be so careful headshotting spiders amongst the bags on horde nights now. :D
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
I know right - I wasn't sure either, so had to go find out! Also, it turns out there's a case that I missed that you can lose a bag - if your base collapses on top of the pile of loot bags, they can despawn if the terrain block that gets created happens to sit on the bag in just the right way. So watch out for falling bases on top of loot bags :D
@TheOBJECT12016 сағат бұрын
A while ago I got a 4X4 chassis from a direwolf! 2 hours ago I got another one XD!
@CautiousPancake16 сағат бұрын
Gotta love wolves that carry around half a car 🤣 but on the other hand, massive find!
@-NateTheGreat16 сағат бұрын
I like when you find a random yellow loot bag laying around.
@CautiousPancake14 сағат бұрын
It's so good right! 👍
@donpfoutz62516 сағат бұрын
How does the skill of looting effect loot stage, if at all?
@rickywood880516 сағат бұрын
I started a new game going for a kind of scavenger build (so not much J to anything apart from looting, scavenging and spears) and I'm currently trying to figure out how I can turn butcher Petes (snow biome navezgane) elevator shady into a horde base for a level 5 iron spear and level 1 pistol (the better one) so if you have bas rebuild that can work there a link would be extremely appreciated ❤️ TIA
@standardaussie16 сағат бұрын
Do they save on quit? Come on mate
@CautiousPancake13 сағат бұрын
Hahaha - fair question that I didn't think of! Short answer is yes for singleplayer. For dedicated - it might depend on who else is in the area.
@standardaussie12 сағат бұрын
@@CautiousPancake I hope it shows im poking, on ya mate thanks. Yes single player is what I was questioning, I speed up time-lapse for horde but also seems to speed up the despawn timer for bags. Would be nice to duck out and put time back to normal after horde to collect bags.
@CautiousPancake9 сағат бұрын
@@standardaussie Yeah all good mate - shouldn't matter what speed your game is - it'll be 20 mins real time for loot bags to despawn - which could be a few hours, or several days depending on the game speed.
@piggfeathers17 сағат бұрын
kill the zombies one after the other not all in the same tic
@CautiousPancake12 сағат бұрын
Good question to ask - I did a couple of those test with the sniper and got similar results on drop rates. Similarly I did 50 direwolves at once (using killall) and got 50 loot bags, so I don't think doing them all at once is an issue.
@FantasticMrGhost17 сағат бұрын
Good info, my dood!
@CautiousPancake17 сағат бұрын
Cheers!
@mastadero934317 сағат бұрын
Once had 4 zombies drop loot bags in a row
@CautiousPancake17 сағат бұрын
That's a good run of RNG!
@ztm45417 сағат бұрын
welp time to go on a dire wolf killing spree i guess
@CautiousPancake17 сағат бұрын
Absolutely! They pack a punch though early on.
@TheDarlingFussyfangs17 сағат бұрын
For Your Bonus Tip Ive Heard Poi Level Doesnt Influence Horde Night Difficulty Are You Sure It Does :? Regardless Great Video
@annexroom178018 сағат бұрын
Can you get level 6 loot from them or is it only obtainable from crafting?
@sethpatterson728117 сағат бұрын
You can also get legendary items from tier 6 rewards
@CautiousPancake12 сағат бұрын
No t6 items in the loot bags I don't think! Legendary parts are fairly frequent though (relatively speaking), which can come in handy
@GamingAfter5018 сағат бұрын
Thanks for this very comprehensive look at loot bags. Learned something here!
@CautiousPancake17 сағат бұрын
Thanks GamingAfter50!
@chloe3858318 сағат бұрын
I watched PC playthroughs for many years now I'm not impressed by a PS5 only update 😢
@tnwhiskey6818 сағат бұрын
So in a wondering horde, we're better off to kill 3 regular zombies then kill the blue bag zombies last?
@CautiousPancake18 сағат бұрын
Oooh that is brilliant! Yes that should work. I've not tested but I will soon. Fully expect it to work!
@ryuurel801819 сағат бұрын
That bonus tip at the end, Didn't know about that, ill definitely consider building a base on a existing POI.
@CautiousPancake18 сағат бұрын
It can make a difference for sure! 😊
@gankl348819 сағат бұрын
The bears and dire wolves are bugged atm, and don't always attack after you hit them. Free Red loot bags basically. Hunt them at night in the wasteland for big booty.
@CautiousPancake18 сағат бұрын
Ooh nice, I've not seen that yet, thanks!
@PZB_Gaming19 сағат бұрын
Great info, I've always wondered what exactly can be in the bags
@CautiousPancake18 сағат бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Phoenixaway19 сағат бұрын
That’s why I always go to the wasteland as soon as I reach level 10 to farm fire wolves and bears. Saves me 1 week of grind.
@CautiousPancake18 сағат бұрын
Good plan, sounds like you can handle the extra difficulty!
@jollykirby213819 сағат бұрын
much obliged as always bud, thanks for sharin these top tier bits of info.