This board can make any Fire Alarm Panel ‘Voice Evacuation’!

[@Aaronproductions]

Please fill out this form with questions regarding this video for a follow up on my BTS channel (linked in channels tab) forms.gle/YUG2QueQ29PofVJu5

[@pvh_facp4001yt]

Well, at least there is finally a cheap way to have voice evac without having to buy an entire other panel lol.

[@FireTech7]

IM FREAKING GETTING THIS RN

[@firealarmexpert25]

No need now due to your amount of voice evac panels

[@FireTech7]

@@firealarmexpert25 the ifp-2000ecs is the only voice panel I have

[@nicsalarmsmore1081]

Just ordered one, Thanks!

[@lumenfirealarms]

Cool video I will check all your past videos!!

[@vintagefirealarmguy5285]

Very nice. I will try with my first panel soon

[@vrryan6]

I'm buying one! Thanks for the video Aaron!

[@firealarmexpert25]

Did not work I see

[@vrryan6]

@@firealarmexpert25 Mine went kaboom

[@TheCarson116]

Hey thanks, tried this with my 5208 and it works like a charm. I even made use of the other 3 inputs for other messages, such as all clear, weather alert/emergency, and drill. I'm actually planning on buying one that has TWENTY channels on it so I can have EVEN MORE messages on the system! Only problem with this method though I'd say is that you can't have a microphone to talk through the speakers with. There might be a way of adding one, I just haven't found it.

[@thereal_jeremycraigbrown]

I started back watching your videos

[@literalyammer]

Totally doing this.

[@P25AES]

So to silence it, you can essentially stick a relay on a silencable nac, the normally open side is connected to power input to mp3 module. When panel goes into alarm, relay will close, power will pass it with then detect the alarm relay is closed and sound. When panel is silenced, nac turns off, relay goes open cutting power to module stopping sound.

[@Aaronproductions]

KG1AES Videos not really though because it has to boot up first

[@P25AES]

@@Aaronproductions what is the boot time?

[@Aaronproductions]

KG1AES Videos 3 seconds

[@P25AES]

@@Aaronproductions not terrible

[@Aaronproductions]

It will work with ANY PANEL, that is why the thumbnail and description say that. Please refrain from making comments that ask “will it work with ________ panel” because the answer is yes. thank you! How to use this module with the MS-2/4: www.aaronproductions.net/documents

[@alrmfire1]

Not a Honeywell Vista 20P

[@Aaronproductions]

@@alrmfire1 Not a true fire alarm panel.

[@alrmfire1]

@@Aaronproductions True

[@tronicsterspeaker9946]

my homemade one with a horn and strobe nac and resettable p[ower?

[@ResetTheFireAlarm]

Can you make a video on how to wire it without a panel?

[@tronicsterspeaker9946]

so if i hsve my homemade panel set to continuous and hook the power and trigger to the horn relay i can silence it right?

[@jacksonslaterelevatorraila6444]

would this work on a fire lite ms 5024 panel from the 90's that outputs fwr

[@Aaronproductions]

yes

[@FourtyFiftyEighty]

Is there a way to make the message start playing as soon as the board is powered?

[@Aaronproductions]

4050-80 yes, just short out the common to the input and leave it connected

[@FourtyFiftyEighty]

Aaron Productions cool! Running this with 9volt batteries and don’t want to have to power the board continuously

[@SignalSysBasics]

@@Aaronproductions what terminal is the input, can you clarify please

[@DerpyFireAlarms]

Oh hell yes

[@Txdcblues]

I got an mp3 like this with 9 triggers and “lamp” terminals which could be used standalone for your NAC. I’m making a panel using just that without anything needing programming

[@Txdcblues]

Thanks to your video and inspiration from GeauxPJ I’ve come a long way in building my panel! Can’t wait for it to be done

[@firealarmfever7560]

I think imma use my last nac and get a external relay and do this! I’m exited

[@MatthewRhein]

So I tried this and when it goes into alarm, the board does not sound but when I short the the wire it goes off, but it causes a fault on the nac. What would cause this?

[@DanTDMJace]

you connected the relay on the mp3 to the nac, not the relay on the panel

[@MatthewRhein]

@DanTDMJace i have done that as well. Still have the same issue

[@MatthewRhein]

@DanTDMJace wait I misread this. That is not a good idea. Putting 24v into the mp3 board trigger might kill it as it already has 24v from the panel.

[@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440]

i have a simplex panel that would be cool but i staying with regular good old mechanical horns

[@simplexthefirealarm1064]

My voice is completely ready. Can you please play one of the simplex voices for me?

[@SWAFanPilot]

If I connect a wired phone to the speaker output terminals, would it broadcast to the speakers as long as audio isn't playing? I have an old Autocall-Grinnell MCM-500 module that would be neat to hook up.

[@DanTDMJace]

I don't think so

[@acutemadness]

maybe something like this would be approved in a small building

[@Aaronproductions]

Unfortunately not since it’s not a supervised circuit

[@CoolSimasGuy]

Ohh yeah, does this work with both 25v and 70v speakers?

[@Aaronproductions]

Yes, but technically no; a commercial audio system like the ones meant to be used with those speakers have a transformer inside of the amplifier to boost the voltage in order to get the long distance and daisy chaining to work properly without loss - this board doesn’t have a transformer, it’s like a home grade audio amplifier or one you’d find in your car - however - it CAN drive 25/70v but you would have to have it turned up nearly all the way and you wouldn’t get as much output since it has to stress to output even a fraction as much as a transformer used on a fire alarm VE panel or pro amplifier

[@CoolSimasGuy]

@@Aaronproductions Ahh okay. That’s something to note. One more question, I’m using my MS-9200UD for this project. Can I use the 9200UD relays to control the triggerable outputs or would I need CRF-300 for the outputs to function?

[@nesmanmain0001]

How many amps does this put out, also do you know if you can set a relay on a Fireworx series panel to silence-able????

[@firealarmtechguy4444]

I would like a full step by step tutorial of installing it.

[@Aaronproductions]

If you can’t figure out how it’s wired based on what i explained in the video I wouldn’t advise getting it in the first place, it’s just contact closure.

[@joeycaridi3030]

The reason why this voice evac board inside a fire alarm panel is not up to code in a real building is because a real voice evac system requires the use of buttons to play different messages, and to clearly know that the fire alarm system is voice evac with also a microphone to talk into the speakers and speaker strobes throughout the whole building

[@Aaronproductions]

it’s mainly because it’s not supervised, plus it’s not UL listed for life safety. my EVAX (a real voice evac panel has no buttons… a mic isn’t necessary required either

[@nesmanmain0001]

I have some questions about wiring, do you have discord?

[@Aaronproductions]

yes

[@SouthwestFireAlarms]

Nice!

[@tpmplumbing6748]

Cool!

[@qu.richards]

Nice! Are custom messages possible?

[@Aaronproductions]

Yes it plays any mp3 or WAV file, its an MP3 player.

[@camaronruss9476]

Does it have to be run through a relay? My relays don’t work. Instead could I use the 12v + and - reset?

[@Aaronproductions]

It has to be run through a dry contact relay

[@firealarmexpert25]

Really just has to short the common to one of the inputs

[@P25AES]

So I noticed an issue, these boards do not like to be powered off a NAC at least on the MS9200UDLS. 2 burned up all ready. This is because of the supervisory reverse polarity. What I did was setup a relay/optocoupler module on the NAC with 2 diodes in between. This prevents the reverse polarity from burning up the module and/or triggering the relay. Then on the relay side I have resetable power going through the relay to the board with a jumper on the audio card to play upon power up. I found this is the best method sofar and is silenceable. I burned through 2 audio cards and a relay card so you guys don't have to. An explanation video will be up soon but for now this is a quick test of the setup. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ianRnGavnt6spbc

[@TheCarson116]

Pretty sure you're NOT supposed to POWER the board, but instead simply short the corresponding input to make the message play. That's what I'm doing with my Silent Knight 5208: I have a relay connected to NAC 2 (the "horn NAC" as I've designated it) which in turn is connected to Input 1 on the MP3 board. When the panel goes into alarm both NAC 1 (the "strobe NAC" in my case) and NAC 2 turn on. NAC 2 powers the relay which closes, shorting Input 1 on the MP3 board and cuing it to play the fire alarm message. When the "Silence" button is pressed, NAC 2 cuts off but NAC 1 remains on, turning off the relay and stopping the MP3 board from playing the message, but allowing the strobe to keep flashing. Then everything turns off upon a reset.

[@P25AES]

@@TheCarson116 problem is the nac is always powered so you will have to put a diode in line unless you have a polarized relay with reverse polarity protection. If your nac is not supervised then you will be fine.

[@TheCarson116]

@@P25AES I will admit, I'm sorta confused on the way you have yours set up, but with a relay connected to a NAC the NAC power will NEVER reach the board, since you're going through the relay. (I'm using a small 24VDC relay, rather than a relay board (I don't think the 5208 even has a relay board available for it anyway)

[@P25AES]

@@TheCarson116 you have supervisory power on the nac, it is reverse polarity. When the panel goes in alarm, the polarity switches and activated the devices. The setup i have works fine now although I now have an EVAX panel so no issues.

[@TheCarson116]

@@P25AES I actually have the NAC supervision disabled on ALL my 5208's NACs since it'd be a pain to try and make sure the EOL resistors were always connected to the alarm(s), especially when changing it/them out. But like I said, I don't think it really matters when you're using a relay.

[@firealarmtechguy4444]

can It handle the FWR of my IO500 or do I need to connect it to the booster power supply?

[@Aaronproductions]

yes

[@safetyzone2962]

Pretty sure AUX power is filtered anyways.

[@Aaronproductions]

@@safetyzone2962 usually

[@alexandersalarms5380]

I made a video of this a while back.. nobody thought my idea was good. low and behold, IT WORKS. see people ?

[@Aaronproductions]

you did? what’s the title of it? i want to watch

[@alexandersalarms5380]

@@Aaronproductions it got deleted along with a few of my other ones because they were cringey. I used an elk 110.

[@pedrosotolopez4457]

Bro WTF, is awsome, i need for professional work with notifier

[@safetyzone2962]

It says in the description this is NOT for a real building.

[@alrmfire1]

When I turn it on, It starts blinking & not playing the message

[@ResetTheFireAlarm]

Same

[@lspdfrisawesome8972]

the silent knight link is broken

[@ThePurpleMage1]

can you do two stage voice with this?

[@Aaronproductions]

Sure! if your panel allows for that to be programmed to the relays/modules

[@ThePurpleMage1]

@@Aaronproductionscan you connect it to the nac so that its silenceable?

[@jbelevator5461]

What type of SD card are you using ?

[@Aaronproductions]

JB Elevator micro, San disk

[@jbelevator5461]

@@Aaronproductions thanks

[@carynemiliani2850]

Mine doesn’t play at all and I programmed it right

[@nesmanmain0001]

Does it take a Micro SD card or regular SD card? Wasn't sure because you never specifically clarified.

[@Aaronproductions]

Micro, but it also has built in flash memory

[@nesmanmain0001]

@@Aaronproductions do they come with the SD card?

[@Aaronproductions]

@@nesmanmain0001 no

[@foco5657]

what happened to your google classroom trivia?

[@Aaronproductions]

Its still there

[@foco5657]

@@Aaronproductions it doesnt work

[@ResetTheFireAlarm]

Can you use this without a panel?

[@Aaronproductions]

Yes, just use a relay on your horn strobe circuit

[@ResetTheFireAlarm]

Whats a relay and how do I use it

[@Aaronproductions]

@@ResetTheFireAlarm There are 4 relays on this board, I suggest watching videos on relays to figure out how they work.

[@ResetTheFireAlarm]

@@AaronproductionsOk thanks

[@FireSystem45]

Will this work on the Ms 4?

[@Aaronproductions]

Yes. Use the alarm relay, you can also do a trouble and supervisory message with their respective relays

[@Aaronproductions]

www.aaronproductions.net/documents

[@FireSystem45]

@@Aaronproductions Can I hook up an alarm relay connection and a supervisory relay connection to one speaker? For a multipurpose speaker

[@Aaronproductions]

@@FireSystem45 Connect each relay to its own input on the mp3 player and each relay will trigger a different message, over the same speaker output.

[@theray2009]

Even a MS2?

[@alexandersalarms5380]

all panels with a relay.

[@Picklebean72]

Mine won’t loop. I put ‘1’ in the read.cog but it won’t loop.

[@Aaronproductions]

Isik A. it’s read.cfg not cog

[@Picklebean72]

Aaron Productions yes I know. Auto correct put “cog”

[@camstech465]

Mine works but it doesn't loop. Can anyone help me, I made the file and put the number 1 on it and named it "read.cfg".

[@Aaronproductions]

What type of computer are you using?

[@camstech465]

@@Aaronproductions I am using a windows pc that i built last year

[@northernfs709]

@@Aaronproductions im having the same issue

[@Aaronproductions]

@@northernfs709 make sure to have “file name extensions” turned on or else you’re just renaming the name, and not the end extension (.cfg)

[@safealert21yt52]

What panel were you using while making this video?

[@Aaronproductions]

MS-10UD

[@safealert21yt52]

@@Aaronproductions ah neat, I plan to do this on my ms-9050ud thanks for the good video :D

[@bobbyramgarcia8134]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@FireSystem45]

Thanks

[@vrryan6]

lol it took over a year but i finally got one

[@samsteimel4506]

can u help me install?

[@bz457]

WHAT

[@samsteimel4506]

if anyone can help me do this on my ms5ud i will pay you $10

[@AlarmSystemTech]

Nice!