Not a lot of experience with higher end actions but of the ones I have, the Defiance Machine is so smooth and effortless that it's a real joy to shoot. Do you have any experience with Defiance actions to compare them, particularly the feel of the action cycle? That Terminus certainly looks smooth as well.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
@@stumpyhigginbottom3466 hi. I have a defiance. It’s excellent as well.
@tallyman152 жыл бұрын
ARC Nucleus. Great design, tight tolerance.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
@@tallyman15 sweet. I haven’t tried that one. Saw it at Shotshow the year they dropped. Felt good.
@variableknife47022 жыл бұрын
I picked up an American Rifle Company Archimedes a while back for a project. I'm really liking it. Even with my NF ATACR and their big bolt knob there's plenty of clearance. Really like the bolt face, not having the extractor in the brass during rotation, manually-controlled ejection... list goes on. Sits in an AICS AW with a 7RM bbl.
@EagleEyeShooting2 жыл бұрын
Excellent indepth review of these actions. The threaded trigger pins are just awesome. The features of this action are priced well. I've been recommending the Zermatt actions due to the price point and its control round feed and ejection. They are also one of the few that offer the PPC bolt face. Currently developing a 22 ARC. Velocity numbers are impressive with a 85.5 Berger reaching 3050 fps. It outperforms the 6mm Creedmoor with 105gr Bergers at 2950 fps currently with recoil similar to 223
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for watching sir.
@matthewrezuke81302 жыл бұрын
Well if Kenny likes them, I’ll like them!
@DanielReyes-hz1qk10 ай бұрын
Aside from Defiance who else offers the PPC bolt face? I've got a Ruckus with both 308 and PPC faced bolts and am interested in another action I can do the same with
@sms9106 Жыл бұрын
A satisfied Terminus Zeus customer here too!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Nice! 👍
@jeffranck6080 Жыл бұрын
I'm planning a build using the Terminus Zeus action. This video just cemented my decision. Thanks!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
You won’t regret it. Thanks for watching.
@matthewrezuke81302 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one the other day, seriously can’t wait
@sethhughes2163 Жыл бұрын
I bought 3 Stiller " drop ports "... I'm a lefty and it sped my time up just that couple of hundreths... they are slick, have a couple of Farley's, Panda's, etc.. But a" Zeus" has a spot soon... Appreciate it!
@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote5 ай бұрын
I run Kelbly F-class dual port Pandas for both my 1000yd benchrifles. Definitely get my 10 round record string faster than i did with right load right eject, can't beat kelbly's precise machining, and the fact for their TG ejector over ridiculous rem 700 style fixed plungers these companies make. However if you are running drop port Stillers they don't run an ejector at all so your good there. Stiller isn't quite what Kelbly is with machining but they are closer to the top with Kelbly than 95% of actions out there and people seem to over look them now days. Krauger makes good ones too but once again he uses damn fixed plungers. You wood think these companies would just do what Kelbly does with their TG ejector, or just do a winchester pre64 style mechanical blade which Defiance does with their Deviant Elite contolled round feed tactical action but thats the only model they do it with.
@snakeman482 жыл бұрын
My only precision built rifle is with a Zermatt TL3 in 6mm ARC. That action was recommended by the builder. I like that the bolt face head can be changed for different calibers instead on having several different bolts.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Those are good actions too. Nice features.
@brandonparrett24362 жыл бұрын
Could have done a couple custom’s by now but I’m still pretty satisfied with what I’ve learned on what I have had. It’s about time though so maybe Santa will be good to me
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@rockybaker46932 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos. You do great things for the PRS sport and community with your content. Keep up the great work!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying that!
@rustynut19672 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the one and only I have. 😄 It's a Stiller, it's butter smooth and with a great barrel and my hand loads it shoots in the .1's at 100.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Those are really nice actions too.
@Braunschweiger892 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! You were at Scrivner! I live very close to it. A little too “public” for me most days. Gotta watch your six there.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
👍 I only stay if I’m the only one there. This time I waited in the parking lot almost an hour for people to leave. LOL
@sidbates34232 жыл бұрын
Great Rig and by the way Fiocchi ammo makes quality ammo their 223 v-max is shooting sub MOA their prices reflect it as well I just hope they don’t start charging Black Hills ammo prices
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Agree on the ammo.
@randalkidd7562 Жыл бұрын
I got a Zeus . I like 3 lug design, quick change barrel , molded in picatinny rail, 60 deg. throw ! Yessss it as badassstheycome . I have 2 Bartlin 5R barrels , 6.5cm an 243 . Spiral fluted 22"ers... They shoot bugholes .... Always wanted custom action , and now i no why ! I'm thinking of getting another bolt for 223... another barrel, what the heck .... 3 rifles one action .
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
haha glad to see i'm not the only one with this "problem"!
@rickm4295 Жыл бұрын
Im sold , i almost bought one a few nights ago but I didnt know about the quick change barrel thing. Looks good to me
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I think you will love it!
@lifewithabe3122 жыл бұрын
Threaded trigger pins is what I need
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty nice. Definitely makes things easier.
@JayAgave2 жыл бұрын
I kinda regret not getting the QC, no clue what I was thinking about at the time
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@GarrettHamilton2 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot at this range as well. Have a few videos on our channel (Chuckin) from here.
@markmooring1632 Жыл бұрын
Have you tested to see if those zero shifts are repeatable? Curious if it would be possible to do that barrel swap, dial to a previously tested zero shift and have it actually work. Obvious disclaimer on verifying zero especially before hunting, etc.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I have tested it between a 6GT and a 6CM and it returned very close, like a tenth off or something stupid small. After this video I can't remember if I tested it or not. A video probably needs to be made about that I suppose.
@markmooring1632 Жыл бұрын
That would make a great video. Doubly so if you did multiple caliber swaps multiple times (i.e. 6gt, 6cm, 223, 308, repeat on the same target 3-4 times). Thank you!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@markmooring1632 I'll see what I can do.
@sealsrx72524 ай бұрын
Fiocci is good ammo I just don’t like their brass it kind of ansticky case. But shoots great
@PrecisionRifleNetwork4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@ericrumpel31052 жыл бұрын
Dang nice rig !!....why was there an edit at around 3:52 - was that a failure to feed?....btw - Thanks fer sharing !!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
No failures. I often cut things if I say something dumb or if there’s a long pause between shots. I hate wasting people’s time so I cut those out.
@bpintogsxr10002 жыл бұрын
Just shot my Zeus for the first time today. It’s great. Btw. I have a KRG C4 chassis. Yea can adjust the mag height. Fed GT perfectly through MDT AICS, acccurate, AI, and AW mags. Like George has said. It’s not the GT. It’s the mag height.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@tacticalrabbit3082 жыл бұрын
I'm building an AR-10 platform so that I could have barrel interchangeable recievers .
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a fun project
@richarddesimone44512 жыл бұрын
You talk about Eric Cortina making you go broke with his toys, but I noticed the Area 419 press in the back ground? Rock Chucker not good enough? I have been reloading for60 years. in 2002 I set the 1K IBS 1,000 yard five shot light gun group at Hawk's Ridge NC with a rifle I smithed myself. I still use my old Rock Chucker for full length sizing and of course I build my own Wilson hand seating dies with my chamber reamer. If a case is being pushed up into a Custom Widden die, what difference does it make if its being pushed by RCBS or Area 419?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
I never said it would make me go broke. I said it would make “you” go broke…meaning other people.
@richarddesimone44512 жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork True! Its rough, financially, trying to keep up with the cream of the crop! Fortunately, I am a pretty good innovator and manage to still be competitive.! :)
@tnsharpshooter8517 Жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for sharing.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
You bet
@MadRS2 жыл бұрын
AUD$2,800 They would want to be bloody good. I bought and load developed a Savage FT/R for less than that and it shot 1/4MOA all day.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Shoot and have fun. That’s the goal. Ultimately doesn’t matter how you get there or what you use.
@jamesglass56972 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video and all the information I do love a bolt action that's the only way to go thanks a lot appreciate it and be safe
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@gc641 Жыл бұрын
What the heck..that’s cool…how secure is the barrel without torquing? I’m new to rifle built so I’m intrigued.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Very secure. Accuracy International rifles are similar. Desert Tech rifles are similar. It works. 👍
@btm69302 жыл бұрын
I didn't know everyone in the prs was going to 60 degree. I'm pretty sure everyone in the prs is shooting or switching to a impact action
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t say “everyone.” I do agree that Impacts are very popular. They are great actions too. I should also point out I guess that many top pros in PRS are using impacts, but that is such a small sample size of the larger group of people that compete or just shoot custom rifles.
@mtruong7132 жыл бұрын
Impact and Defiance are the 2 most prominent actions in PRS, both being 90 degree thorws. Curtis is 3rd and Lone Peak 4th (which is also 90 degree). 60 degree throws are not appreciably faster, and confers no advantage, just a preference.
@twofast12342 жыл бұрын
@@mtruong713 not much faster, but you do get heavier bolt lift 😄
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
@@mtruong713 I agree, just a preference. 60 was faster for me personally, and one of the main reasons I switched. Not to mention 90 degree throw hitting my optic. I still have a defiance. excellent action. Honestly we could probably throw out the PRS as a metric at all...the couple thousand PRS competitors (are there even that many?) represent such a small demographic compared to the larger sportsman and hunting industry who are using custom actions.
@btm69302 жыл бұрын
I was just giving you a hard time PRN. Thanks for covering the long range stuff and the prs.
@KevWilOG2 жыл бұрын
The wait for mine is excruciating. Almost four months so far. The delays around firing pins makes me concerned.
@joshuagibson25202 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And they aren't even hard to make or require much material.
@mikefortunato98002 жыл бұрын
All that fancy custom gear and a Bushnell scope?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
...a $1600 bushnell scope with Japanese glass. It's pretty decent in my opinion. Though I will say, they are discontinued now. Not sure what that's about.
@RevHiker2 жыл бұрын
Just had one misfire (light primer strike) and cost me a 300"+ Bull Elk... other than that it was great...
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Dang. Bummer. How close was the elk that you couldn’t get another shot off? Or what’s the rest of the story?
@RevHiker2 жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork he was at 609yards, and went over a hill right after and we never saw him again. Tag soup
@Mike-xi4zt11 ай бұрын
@@RevHikerdid the barrel set screws come loose? What is a good recipe for tag soup?
@saltyguerrilla3 ай бұрын
Are all the Terminus action’s good to go? I’d like to build a 6CM for hunting so I was wondering if the lighter weight Terminus were as good as the Zeus.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork3 ай бұрын
The Zeus is the gold standard and is basically flawless in my opinion. So I can safely assume the rest are good to go. BUT I haven’t personally used all of them.
@TMFShooting Жыл бұрын
Great Video Thanks 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
you bet. thanks for watching.
@CplSkiUSMC Жыл бұрын
Bottom line for a precision bolt action is... is it true? If the lugs and bolt face aren't true then it's no better than any run of the mill factory bolt action rifle. I'm not interested in changing barrels and triggers at the range, I want a precision action that is true to the bore so that when mated up with a precision match barrel, I get consistent tack driving accuracy.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong, but then most if not all custom actions are made to very true/tight tolerances these days. Used to be you had to get a gunsmith to true up an action. Not any more if you’re buying a quality custom.
@CplSkiUSMC Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I'm sure you're correct, I'd just like to see a smith do some videos with some of the precision actions available on the market and chuck them up to see if they really are true or so close to true that it doesn't really matter. I guess my issue is that these actions are quite expensive and I'd like to know that I'd get what I'm paying for. Even with CNC machining, mass production has a habit of getting a bit sloppy... nature of the beast. Machine bearing surfaces become worn, cutting bits get a little dull, tool heads get a few too many miles, things happen that turn tolerances from .0001 to .001 to .0015 to .002 and so on. It would be nice to know which companies are offering .0001 vs which are offering .001 or more tolerances. I'm probably asking for a bit too much but hey, a guy can dream right?
@muscleycar2 жыл бұрын
Tell us about that TMB on the end of the first barrel? Video coming?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Video already done a couple years ago. Scroll through vids here, should be able to find it.
@mftoutdoors7483 Жыл бұрын
Very usefull
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@CoyoteRegulator Жыл бұрын
Can you tell us your barrel contours for the 308 and 223 barrels used in the video?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
No. Sorry. I simply don’t know. M24 or Palma maybe? Something heavy. 🤷🏻♂️
@wallywire7 ай бұрын
If I go with single caliber 300 win mag standard cartridge rifle & barrel, would you still recommend the Zeus action or Kratos by Terminus?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork7 ай бұрын
go big or go home. lol. kidding, it kinda depends on your intended purpose. Not saying this is you specifically, but most guys who say they need a 300winmag don't need one. If it's competition, steel targets, or hunting most north american game, then there's a cartridge based off the short action Zeus that can easily handle all those jobs. Tell me more about what you're wanting to do with your build and I can maybe be of more help.
@MrJackieTran Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your barrels from?
@lynndragoman2454 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone talk about tight tolerances but they never say what they sre?
@χχάάοοςς Жыл бұрын
Question: when you are feeding the rounds and manipulating the bolt, is the "3rd lug" at the 12 or 6 o'clock position? I want to use AW style mags in my next build and am considering this action vs the GAP Tempest (lug at 6 position when feeding a round). I dont have my AI AT anymore so I cant check but correct me if wrong: I believe the AI's have the "3rd lug" at the 6 o'clock position. Thank you for your video's and feedback.
@austinpribulsky8186 Жыл бұрын
How does the lift feel compared to a defiance? Weight wise
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
The terminus is slightly heavier. It’s 60 degree throw while defiance is 90. You can feel the difference but it’s not much. Terminus is still very smooth.
@tommydee14372 жыл бұрын
if i had to do it over again, this is the route I would have gone
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Future purchase 😉
@tommydee14372 жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork it could happen. I'm on bug holes notify list when they get them.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
@@tommydee1437 nice
@ksdronegunner88552 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what is the technical difference between the Zeus and the Curtis Valor? They look nearly the same.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Long story short: threaded trigger pins, size of the roller in the bolt, and size of the bolt itself. You get a field serviceable action, an easy to open 60 degree throw, and no more feeding issues from 6BR variants.
@shannonmarcantel79932 жыл бұрын
So you can swap out any short action calibers only?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
As long as terminus offers a bolt for it. (I think)
@TheLanden112 жыл бұрын
I know this video is about the action but what is your opinion on those Bushnell elite tactical scopes?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
The glass is a little “grey” in terms of color, but it’s clear, tracks well, and has had no issues for me.
@TheLanden112 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks! Joel
@jessethomasson49072 жыл бұрын
Have you used the steel prefit from proof for the qc zuse?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I have one coming any day now.
@bigbenff12 жыл бұрын
I have…and mine worked out great
@borkwoof6962 жыл бұрын
What’s a "zuse"?
@willxu082 жыл бұрын
Which site is the best place to buy Zeus action?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
That I do not know. Sorry.
@twofast12342 жыл бұрын
Altus. That's where I got mine from.
@mrjeffjob Жыл бұрын
The one that has one. 😎
@maryfithen500611 ай бұрын
What’s the price $
@PrecisionRifleNetwork11 ай бұрын
These typcially go for around $1400.00 on the Terminus website
@rdsii642 жыл бұрын
Is that shift repeatable?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure from all the different calibers. I've only tested this with 308, 223, and 6cm. All of those required minimal adjustments for me.
@G5Hohn2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I feel that every set screw is a design flaw.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
I hear what you’re saying, but then we have to torque the barrels on. Defeats the purpose of being “quick change.”
@G5Hohn2 жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork They could mount the barrel with something like a die lock ring at the front of the action. Put the threads deeper in the action, leave 1/2" at the front as a split locking function mimicking the die lock ring (only it's permanently part of the action). Only catch is every barrel profile would need that 1/2" section to be the same OD. Not that big a deal.
@mrjeffjob Жыл бұрын
West Texas Ordinance sells one called the switch lug. T 25 screw at the top you tighten to 30 in- pounds. I have one on my Curtis Axiom.
@DinoNucci2 жыл бұрын
Buyer beware: axil is gas station counter level quality.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Hmm mine have been excellent. 🤷🏻♂️
@Reload4Hobby2 жыл бұрын
Ya my cheap walkers kill them man
@buckaroobonsi555 Жыл бұрын
At the price those actions sell for the fact that you have to purchase a separate trigger should be criminal. That is like purchasing a new car or truck at $80K and you arrive and have to bring your own tires and rims that you purchased separately before you can drive your car or truck off the lot. This is more people with more money than brains! At the insane price they charge for the privilage of ownership they should include a trigger. What is next are they going to make you purchase a bolt separately!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I already responded to your other message, which you deleted, but I'll humor you on this one too. These are custom actions for discerning shooters who want the best, and plan on switching barrels/calibers regularly. These buyers don't want the action company providing a trigger because what if it's not the custom trigger they were planning on purchasing. These people enjoy the build process and most of them want the best available parts. How much something costs is not the priority. This may not make sense to you or given your budget, but that doesn't mean you're justified in calling people stupid and/or insane for their choices.
@mrjeffjob Жыл бұрын
What a maroon. 😅. When I build rifles I want to choose. Every. Single. Component. You look at a gun like a tool then a $450 Ruger American makes sense. If you look at a gun like it’s a family member you have different priorities and money isn’t one of them.
@buckaroobonsi555 Жыл бұрын
How is it better than a trued factory action. Be specific! Can you give us measurements that are scientific and repeatable? "This action is more better because it cost more and feels slick!" is not the type of marketing hype I am looking for. How is it better? How can I know for sure if I buy one it is better? What can I or my gunsmith measure to be sure I am getting "god level" precision in machining and materials? I want something I can hold the manufacture too in a court of law anything less is bullshit marketing hype on the level of propaganda! What guarantee will the manufacture give me. If they demand I use a particular gunsmith and barrel to meet said claims name that gunsmith and barrel maker I must use here and now or admit your con men! I doubt you will do it because everyone in this industry is a coward! Prove me wrong! I am one of the few honest men left in this world!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
For you, it’s not worth the money. You should stick with a factory trued action.
@bavariasuhl3 ай бұрын
high tolerance and smooth are contradictory
@PrecisionRifleNetwork3 ай бұрын
Usually, but not in this case. Defiance actions are another example.