This call would make any NHL hockey coach FURIOUS…

#nhl #hockey #nhlhighlights
Let’s be honest.. NHL officiating this season hasn’t been spectacular.. In fact.. theres been many instances that will just leave you flat out scratching your head as a hockey fan. But In this game between the Pittsburgh Penguins vs The Detroit Red Wings.. we saw Red Wings coach Derek Lalonde absolutely lose it after this coaches challenge was called a goal. We break down the call, and how the confusion around goalie interference can change the dynamic of the NHL playoffs.

[@Clyde_Frog]

Lol Derek Lalonde yelling "that's fucking horseshit" Love it

[@_Kakoosh]

So glad to have a guy like this replace Blashill

[@ericthompson2920]

Derek was my coach in college in '98 (he had hair). Awesome dude! Nothing wrong with losing it after a bad call!

[@ericthompson2920]

And Derek played goalie growing up

[@kevinrasmussen1319]

The press conference after the game was the best... "We couldn't find the key for Newsy, he's still locked up in handcuffs in the back!"

[@ryankendra6052]

As a Detroit fan, I grew up watching Tomas Holmstrom for 15 years. I literally have no idea what goaltender interference is.

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Haha! Not sure many are going to get that-I still think he ate beans before each game! The league is different... He left at the right time as a career winger, right? I grew up watching Gerry cheevers- Hextall "goalie interference" usually went the other way 😏 We used to call it "poke checking" ... And then some. For a couple of years I thought maybe the refs had it backwards! Had to adjust. Good comment.. Good chuckle Enjoy!

[@sharkhaywood]

I can remember a game years ago with the Sharks (the team I root for) where Nabokov had the puck covered with his glove. Zetterberg skated in and poked his glove and dislodged the puck into the net. Was ruled a good goal. This isn't a new issue for sure but man this season has been really bad officiating league wide.

[@PCPAyLOAD]

LOL same!

[@lemonator8813]

@@sharkhaywood as a lifelong sharks fan, and nabokov being my favorite player that hurt me deep haha refs are so bad in the nhl it is borderline rigged. i cant watch a game on tv these days. too much bs.

[@TommathanOW]

dw guys he didn't interfere with the goalie he just moved him forcefully

[@FHL-Devils]

You can't physically move a goaltender with the puck underneath them. You can dig a puck out of a goaltender doesn't know he's covering it (within reason), but there is NO scenario where a goalie can be pushed in by an opponent. This is egregious.

[@kevinnzhu]

@@FHL-Devils it was a joke

[@SaltyDylan]

Oh thanks, I was so confused but I see. Good call by the stripes, like usual. They don’t get enough credit.

[@thenextguest3230]

@@SaltyDylan are you stupid? she was joking.

[@seanmichael5751]

ummm... that is the exact definition of goal tender interference. let me guess, you're training to be a ref

[@ianyazbec5829]

This honestly felt like the straw that broke the camel's back for Lalonde. There have been so many shit calls over the season that have screwed over the Wings. This was only the third challenge the Wings made over the entire season. They are 0/3 on coach's challenge. I'm sure every team can say that they've been screwed over by a bad call or non-call. The NHL officials need to be transparent and explain calls, and for the love of God, admit when they are wrong!

[@briangeary7684]

As a Wild fan, Evason is petrified to challenge. If it goes to Toronto, Minnesota never wins so now even when the odds are 80% or higher he declines to challenge. Against Calgary in OT, they literally called both benches back to the ice to disallow a goal on an offside. When the players with a birds-eye view leave the ice, it’s probably a goal? Same play with Edmonton in the playoffs, good goal, possession bull crap and another arbitrarily call. Cost us a point which is huge right now as we’re trying to get the 1 seed in the central. This play was blatant goaltender interference, as obvious of a call that could be made. I do feel some teams get calls all the time, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Rangers, Colorado, Edmonton to name a few. Lastly, another call missed is the goalie delay of game, as goalies push the net off the post to ease pressure. This needs to be called period. Went to the Toronto / MN game In November, three times - just a face off. This will come up in the playoffs, guaranteed, it’ll be ignored. Next year Detroit starts the climb up the standings 💯.

[@Kieva_Storm]

But they'd have to admit that the NHL is making money off the Over/Under on gambling.

[@briangeary7684]

@@Kieva_Storm too funny 😂… Where does Bedard go, Montreal or Chicago? Just my guess…

[@Kieva_Storm]

@@briangeary7684 Whichever team they stand to make the most money off of

[@stevekendra8983]

Refs need to be held accountable and explain why they called a play like they did. Neither refs or the situation room in Toronto are ever held accountable and they fine players/coaches who speak out against them.

[@sora1498]

i feel bad for detroit tbh, theyve been having extremely shit calls this season

[@aspirindamage5152]

2009

[@stevenkish9061]

​@HAL 9001 Without a doubt, the Wings have had some mind-blowingly bad calls against them this season. However, it is usually the Detroit LIONS who are the recipients of bad officiating, season after season.

[@strigon4183]

Appreciate that other people are seeing this too, it hasn't just been one game with the Wings this year where we've been screwed over. It happens to all teams at points, but the Wings have really been boned by the refs this season

[@benderandownz]

What else is new? Lol I swear the league hates the Wings

[@kodapumpkin6615]

Bruh i’m so glad it’s not just me as a fan. I was getting to the point they were making me feel like I was the issue😅

[@iitsmaze]

Bullshit call, but I love seeing Lalonde fired up lol. The officiating in the league is just a joke at this point. Seems like no brain calls are basically a 50/50 gamble. It was good to see the boys get going after Lalonde was ejected. Even though the second period the refs tried to spoon feed the pens a way back into the game. Perron’s hat trick was icing on the cake. #LGRW

[@marinrealestatephotography]

The only thing worse is the total inconsistency in cross checking calls. They should allow for coaches to challenge NON calls when it comes to cross checking.

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

... and high sticking! I have seen games when players were clearly high-sticked, sometimes even bleeding, but they were out of luck because the refs missed it. I know that we don't want to slow down the game with too many video reviews, but for cross-checking, high-sticking, boarding, kneeing, and other things that can cause serious injuries, the offending player should be penalized any time it is caught on video, even if the refs didn't see it in real time.

[@Nichaelas]

Yeah like when Larkin got a game misconduct and a fine for an accidental check he was even stopping and apologizing about and then not even a week later he himself gets intentionally cross checked in the head and they slap the guys wrist with a 2 minute minor.

[@AShadyDoctor]

Legend has it we will never know what's goaltender interference

[@dfox3324]

Stop letting Angel Hernandez do the reviews would solve the problem.

[@holyspider9206]

I remember a couple of weeks ago during a caps game, the goalie was actually laying down on the puck after a caps player pushed it underneath of him on a loose puck. The other team actually PUSHED the goaltender into the net. Of course there was a challenge on the play since it was GI but the final call was a goal. It was basically a dog pile on the goalie, but one of the players from the opposing team actually pushed a caps skater, who pushed the goalie into the net. APPARENTLY IF the goalie doesn’t have the puck secured in his glove, the goalie can still be slid into the goal from another player since he isn’t in the active motion of saving the puck. It was a 200 IQ move since technically the rule book says it should count as a goal, but they definitely rewrite the rule around to “in the act of or engaging in a puck stoppage. That way if the puck gets shot, it’s GI. if the goalie is securing the puck and gets pushed out of position, GI. If the goalie initiate the contact, goal. Similar to penalties where players try to flop. If a goalie goes out of their way to make a call GI, it shouldn’t count. If they were making a realistic save, it should be GI

[@Stalkingwolf]

watching NHL since 96. the last two years were a mess from the refs.

[@GeneralWAITE]

Just when sports gambling blew up….must be coincidence

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Tim Poole. Rode off in the sunset with his golden parachute He wasn't turned in by the NHL or any other official? He was caught on hot mic. NHL didn't show remorse, punish him. NHL officials didn't come out in the media to rectify their reputations They paid him to shuddup, battened down the hatches-learned how to take more control, more subtly And now we have teams traveling with their own video crews-coaches challenges have been overturning refs lately There's no precedence for this type of goalie interference. But if you can spin goalies around in their crease like that? This playoffs going to be fun! Spinning goalies-putting the puck in on themselves! 🙄

[@kingoftrolls19]

​@TheFoolinthe rainn its like the nfl, they don't even know what a catch is. It's almost like the offside rules. For example Avs and oilers in playoffs. Makar skates puck in but they called it a delayed offside. In my opinion that's ticky tack shit. There should be no Grey area just like the goalie interference

[@CRlMZlN]

The boys pulled it off for coach though LGRW

[@SuperRyanreed]

I've been waiting for Derek to blow up like this all season and good on him for finally letting this out. Get the leagues attention!

[@onelove1968]

In road hockey we called it 'hacking' a save. Every team had a lumberjack who would constantly attempt it.

[@KingOfTheGreatLakes]

Watched this game in person with a good friend of mine from Pittsburgh chipping the entire time. In the moment it was definitely more 50-50, but once the replay was shown, it was clear interference. Was wild to see this not get called and have the penalties overwhelmingly favorite Pittsburgh, good to see the good guys still pulled out the W

[@grahamdamberger7130]

As an Oilers fan, I am still haunted by the second round of the 2017 playoffs. But considering Ryan Kesler was allowed to push his glove down on Can Talbot's pad to slow him down, which allowed Rakell to tie the game (the Oil were up 3-0 with 3 and a half minutes left in the game, which would have given them the series lead heading back to Edmonton), then I don't know what goalie interference is. It seems to keep changing depending on who the officials of each game are.

[@philipdavis2187]

I always figured the one where they had the stick between Talbots legs and then scored five hole was more haunting 😵

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

Originally the idea of the Toronto war room was to have the same people making these video review calls for every game, thus making it not depend on who the on-ice officials are for any given game. It was a good idea, but apparently it has not had the intended result.

[@grahamdamberger7130]

@@jeremykraenzlein5975 Like with almost everything else that is invented or formed.

[@marksmith5883]

Oh no. It was waaaayyyy worse than that. I live and am from E-town. I however am a HUGE Penguins fan since they drafted Jagr. So if it comes down to Pens and Oil in the finals, I'm going Pens all the way. But..... I tell my friend this, and it comes up every so often (he gets Bieksa and Kesler mixed up, understandable, both dirty and both played for same shit team) that the play was total garbage. And I'm being polite about it. He didn't push the pads. He literally put his hand on top of the goalie pad, anchored himself against the stuff going in around him. Then with the hand on top of the pad, he proceeds to move it back and forth until the puck comes loose and then shoves the pad towards the puck which knocks it in the net. Just brutal that at the highest level they get the calls wrong. Sure, by your eyes only, but your going to a video replay which has tons of angles and you can change the speed and everything else to your liking or viewing. There should be no mistakes.

[@Corninthesky]

I popped off with him when this happened, what a joke. I also love the Wings broadcast booth saying something like “Whatd he say?” (in reference to the referees unclear announcement) followed by a cut to Lalonde yelling some of the most visually recognizable curses and “Well you don’t want to know what Lalonde is saying…” If anything this makes me like him more as a coach. I give him credit and am always thrilled to beat Pittsburgh lol

[@humblelad]

Wings still pulled it off LGRW

[@barry009]

As a goalie, I hate when someone pushes me into the net when the puck is under me. You can’t anchor in every time the puck is under your pad. I think it’s GI even in pick-up hockey; the guys I play with don’t count any goals scored that way.

[@danielleatherman1936]

How did I know the referee was Garret Rank before I even looked it up.

[@bransenmacdonald6880]

Actually so many people saw the luck leave but if you saw the behind net view it goes under his skate and as he pulls his leg back the same time it crosses the blue line the puck is leaving from his knee area so it should not have been a goal. Just saying as a Dallas fan.

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

Lalonde may have been unprofessional in his unsportsmanship, but it does prove that he really wanted to win this game. For anyone who suggests that the Red Wings should tank or are tanking to get a better draft position, I submit this outburst as evidence that the team has no intention of doing so.

[@Nichaelas]

This team never wins the draft lottery so why tank. The last number 1 pick was in 86 and that's of the 3 all time. They've had plenty of opportunity to get one recently and in the previous "dead wings" era and they got nothing.

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

@@Nichaelas And the higher picks aren't always better anyway. Last year the Calder Trophy (Rookie of the Year) went to a #6 overall pick, Moritz Seider. Back in 1983, the Red Wings had the fourth overall pick, and were hoping to get local player Pat LaFontaine. In the short term, he would have been their best bet to fill up the arena for home games, which was a major issue for the team at that time. But LaFontaine was taken with the #3 pick. At the time the Wings were disappointed, but today we thank God that LaFontaine was not available, as awesome as he was, because that is what forced the team to "settle" for Steve Yzerman with the #4 pick. Then in 1990, Detroit actually had the third overall pick, and selected Keith Primeau. He never lived up to the expectations of that pick, but it ultimately worked out because he was the key to the Shanahan deal a few years later. But imagine the possibilities: with the fourth pick that year, Pittsburgh drafted Jamiour Jagr.

[@PDaddy44]

As a lifelong Pens fan, my conclusion was that even though I thought Detroit got screwed, the Pens would give them plenty more opportunity to win the game. Of course, especially this year, I was right. 🤣

[@CarbonatedTurtle]

Stand just outside the crease and have the goalie come out enough to slightly brush up against you? Goaltender interference! Literally push the goalie in the net while he's covering the puck? GOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!

[@TheBoardandThebord]

there are a lot of rules in hockey that feel like they should be concrete yet are gray in practice. the refs have also occasionally openly admitted to trying to call “even” games rather than calling games by the book. If the same game was called by different crews, potentially one crew could have players marching to the box and the other would have a clean sheet. it’s kind of frustrating. but hey other leagues and other sports have similar problems too i guess

[@mikewhitcanack8536]

In one of the camera angles you can actually see the flex on Zucker's stick as he pushes the leg pad back over the line. Should not have been a goal.

[@RobHoubeck]

As a Wings fan, I share Newsy's sentiment. But in all actuality, if Zucker didn't hit that, there would have been plenty of room for Ned to slide into the net resulting in a goal. But the play was clear goaltender interference, you cannot push a goalies pad across the line. As the years go on the officiating has been getting worse and worse, clown show levels of incompetence.

[@dstidham4253]

The "goaltender interference" call last night between the Canes and Senators on Noesen was ridiculous.

[@cybernetix86]

Zucker scored without touching the puck?!? Da fuck is dat!

[@thebelizeaneh]

There is absolutely no consistency in the NHL. It's not just goalie interference but so many other calls, even off side calls. Sometimes it's a penalty and sometimes not

[@Torgo1969]

Lalonde was yelling "But the puck..."

[@djpieh]

How many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop and goaltender Interference are two mysteries that may never be solved....

[@JustinLee-lt1hr]

I'm a big penguins fan, but this is definitely goalie interference

[@joemelillo8999]

there was a game last season between minnesota and the rangers. strome pushed the goalies pad into the net very similarly to this same scenario causing the puck to cross the line and tie the game in the dying seconds. the goal was immediately waved off, and after getting challenged, was still deemed no goal. there are countless examples of these inconsistencies. i dont get it, maybe different people in the situation room that get swapped in/out during the season and have different opinions about these rules

[@TheFoolintherainn]

That's interesting. Yes I think it is subjective... You'd be correct especially after Tim Poole. They're just more careful with their mics now! If the puck is right there and they're digging for the puck, that might be different. I didn't see the play you speak of- in this video, at the very end, we can see he has spun the ENTIRE goalie around That spinning caused the puck to go in He did not have a visual of the puck. His stick was not on the ice digging under the pad-it pushed the middle of his pad. So I don't know if the two compare yes, you can push UNDER a goalies pad if that's where a live puck is and you're digging for it. But clearly his stick was not on the ice digging for a puck-it was about 6 in above the ice, pushing the goalie pad, spinning him around. It's smart, but not legal. That's the difference to me - the location of his stick blade, whether he had a visual of the puck. But-it's a couple of weeks before playoffs. We've seen this funky officiating every end of season the past 5-6 years. They have fined coaches for speaking about in press conferences -I know Butch Cassidy took a $25,000 fine, Canadian coaches complained during the pandemic season with the Canadian division Habs were not the best Canadian team They got a lot of help from their referee friends and everybody knows it, including Hab fans over the age of 40 So now-teams travel with their own video coaches during games- why coaches' challenges are overturning refs now. We'll see what the next move is Enjoy the playoffs!

[@mikewhitcanack8536]

I situations like this goaltenders tend to freeze if they don't know where the puck is. Ned froze and Zucker pushed his pad with enough force to flex his stick. I've seen every camera position on this play.

[@mvwoon]

That's true - it'll be critical in playoffs. Too many men on the ice was horrible last year in the playoffs. Line changes gradually got more and more aggressive and then they would randomly get called during play or during review.

[@patcon314]

The ONLY possible reason for allowing the goal would be that they ruled that the puck had already completely crossed the line BEFORE the pushing of the goalie's pad. If that was the case the ref could have avoided all of the problems by saying that.

[@djphlange]

clearly the puck was pushed in by the stick pushing the goalies pad.... ridiculous call

[@jordacheamistad3748]

It's game management by the refs with mid game sports betting being allowed now. It's why multi goal comebacks are up league wide as well as multiple lead changes occurring. Take away a goal here, make a non call there. Here's a 5 min match penalty for cross checking. Here's a non call for boarding. "What? The over under just changed again?? 🤷🤷

[@worldneedsmorelove4465]

I couldn't have said it better. The refs control of play when it comes to how fast and how physical has really come apparent to me.

[@sclemson8541]

I'll just say... thank God for David perron. 3rd period hat trick. So amazing. Also shit call

[@matthazelet1209]

I’m not sure what’s worse, the goalie interference or the “distinct kicking motion” nonsense. I haven’t watched as much hockey this year as I usually do, but there was a blatant kick-in goal against the Sabres a few weeks ago that was ruled a goal after the challenge. And everyone I was watching the game with agreed: “if that’s not a ‘distinct kicking motion’ then idk what is.”

[@gordonbgraham]

I want to see a more lengthy overhead view. Looks like it could have gone over the line before the push, judging how deep his skate is. The replay switches angles before we can see.

[@0xSpiff]

Did you see the replay in the last 15 secs of this vid? Puck clearly doesn't cross the line until Zucker pushes the pad; or at the very least, the puck never visibly cross the goal line entirely.

[@gordonbgraham]

@@0xSpiff I couldn't see the puck from that angle. I could see the goalie's foot sliding back with the puck under it...then the angle suddenly switched. From the top angle it looked as if the goalie's skate momentum was carrying the puck over the line prior to the push

[@humblelad]

If you check the Detroit Bally broadcast they show all kinds of angles and it’s pretty clear

[@YetiPersonal]

its quite simple actually 1. if there is an contact towards the goalie that is in their crease than there is no goal 2. if the contact of an opposing player on the goalie is caused by a player on the goalies team than the goal is allowed this would remove any of the “well I dont think it was on purpose or well the other guy on the other team pushed him into the net.” this makes everything easier because its in the rulebook as what specifies goaltender interference

[@Skynertia]

This shit has irked me ever since the 2017 Oilers-Ducks series where Kesler physically held onto Talbot's pad and prevented him from pushing back into position. If you make contact with a goalie prior to the puck entering the net and impede his ability to make the save, no goal. Honestly tired of it. Players shouldn't be playing within the crease to begin with, and hopefully as the league gets higher skilled they begin to weed out net front play that borders on interference.

[@silverking8742]

I was at this game and I didn't even realize coach was thrown out of the game until the next day lol. Btw this game was 🔥🔥🔥. Such an awesome experience

[@Torgo1969]

Good for you, looked like a fun game. I went to see DET lose to CBJ and OTT earlier this season.

[@silverking8742]

@@Torgo1969 yea I seen them lose to the Panthers right before the penguins game. I'm going to the home closer vs Dallas so hopefully it's as good of a game as the penguins game

[@michaelpacini1332]

The refs don't even know what goaltender interference is .

[@mikewhitcanack8536]

2023 nhl rule book states "If an attacking player makes contact with a goaltender in the crease restricting his freedom of movement and a goal is scored, the goal shall be disallowed. " kinda hard to move on ice without a planted skate blade and a player pushing you with a stick.

[@math3342]

That's goalie interference 100%

[@RoyalMela]

The rule of interference is so mystical and has dozens of things that have an affect on the outcome. Way too many variables for anyone except the referees to understand. The whole rule needs an update, but how.

[@mikewhitcanack8536]

If you refer to the 2023 NHL rule book, section 69.1-69.7, you will see that pushing the leg pad of the goaltender while in the crease IS goaltender interference. And even after reviewing the play twice, was still called a goal. Bad call!! I could see if we didn't have reviewing of play it could get missed. In this play you can see Zucker's stick flex on Ned's leg pad as it pushes the puck over the line. Officiating needs to be better.

[@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615]

I thought Lalonde was saying "what the f**k is going on here?"

[@BuchholzTom]

The correct ruling on this it should have been reviewed for the goalie being pushed into the net not Goalie Interference. This review should have come from Toronto and the coach should not even had to challenge it. By rule you are not allowed to push the goalie into the net. The challenge should have been for that not interference because there was no interference and if that’s what they reviewed for the goal stands if it crossed the line. It could have been called no goal and the coach still lost the challenge. The bottom line is the review is what Toronto wants it to be. The System is a joke!

[@offbrandcontent8779]

Really happy to have Lalonde in Detroit. Nice having a coach that has a backbone. Much needed for Detroit. Babs might of been an asshole but his last playoff run in 2015 he didn’t hold back. I don’t have to explain how shitty Blashhill was as a head coach.

[@T-Will-4554]

There was a game a couple years back, Caps vs. Pens, and there was the most outrageous goaltender interference call in the history of the league. Caps scored a goal, the goal was overturned without there being ANY contact with the goalie at all, he was just in the crease, not blocking his movements either. That's when I decided 100% that the refs fix the games and make money off of it.

[@martinmachalek2791]

We have the same problem with the officials upstairs (VAR) in soccer ⚽️. Refs still make the wrong call even when they have 2nd & 3rd looks at the play. Abismal decisions.

[@tallesttreeintheforest]

my faith is in the hockey gods to even things out

[@jean-louislalonde6070]

The puck clearly crossed the red line I can understand Derek Lalonde's anger and no, I am not directly related to him.

[@America-First2024]

Just like the NFL. Either the refs are on the take or the home office has a script.

[@kindnessofwooedandwooer2494]

if you dig for the puck and the whistle hasn't been blown what makes it goaltender interference? Does the goaltender have to be pushed for it to be ruled GI?

[@oilwings]

Imo, the officials should be be available after every game for media availability/press cons

[@rejean2744]

I think the refs felt that the skate and puck "may" have been over the line before Zucker pushed his pad. (It's close) I'm also guessing that the refs had better video of it than we do. In this video the camera angle switches at the crucial moment.

[@Semaj2326]

What do I think of this call? Doesn't surprise me, Pittsburgh always gets any borderline call. I'm a Devils fan and earlier in the season Dougie Hamilton scored a goal against them and it got called back because Haula barely grazed the goalie (I think it was Jarry). What's crazy about it was that it was called no goal on the ice. Apparently to the refs it was so obvious that it was goaltender interference that they couldn't even let Pittsburgh challenge it. I guess that's what happens when you have the golden boy on your team and have been good for almost 20 years, you have the respect of the officials. Whereas Detroit has been bad for so long they get shafted.

[@ljawshl]

That was absolute bullshit, Holy shit, like why can someone literally push the goalies pad with their stick, and its like "Yeah whatever" but god forbid you snow the goalie cause your trying to crash the net, LIKE EVERY PLAYER SHOULD, and suddenly its interference. We need a clear concise on what this rule states, yes ref digression is a thing but its unacceptable at this current standard

[@johnburns9634]

Still waiting for your video on the three disallowed goals in Calgary...

[@Ballztothewqllz]

SAME

[@alid7192]

Flames fan here. 1st goal was offside, 2nd one clearly crossed the line, 3rd one looked offside in real time but wasnt reviewed and appeard onside after they showed the replay.

[@johnburns9634]

@@alid7192 Yup. But it still has three disallowed goals. Markstrom played a hell of a game!

[@paulwilkinson8308]

Pfffffttt! Canucks have had games were two video reviewed goals were called completely ass-backwards! And I’ve lost count on how many they’d had over the past 10-11 seasons…

[@jessemielen698]

A one-handed hooking call on Walman to give the Pens a 5 on 3 was ALMOST as bad as this call or lack of.

[@rrl4245]

I watched that game, and you're correct, the call was pathetically bad. The current rule is still better than the old: "the player's toe was in the blue paint - no goal"

[@bavier6355]

Im a pens fan but this is insane lmao he legitimately ROTATED the guy??? what more do u have to do for goalie interference, I mean this is coming from another goalie but id throw hands if a dude rotated me in my crease lmao

[@AustinWestbro]

The refs have been horrible this year across the board, but they’ve been especially egregious against Detroit. Makes you wonder who’s instructing them to tilt the ice unfairly and what their motivations are.

[@MKZ3003]

Nice, it’s a crackhead with a tinfoil hat

[@montuckyman4982]

I mean it's so hard to get right! You can only literally see Zucker's damn stick FLEX as he leans into it as he moves a whole entire goalie and that causes puck to cross line. So tricky to get that right...when Toronto knows what everyone has for bets on the over or the puck line ,they just need to try to make the betters happy now! That's how f$cked up gambling is!

[@TheSkruds]

I think it might have went in first under his skate before the push on the pad

[@ericrinehart477]

Ya I feel like they couldn't overturned this goal cause it would make the refs and command center for reviews look like trash including the league

[@MrMistrEnigma]

The ‘clarity’ is there in the rule in black and white. And it’s not the on ice officials who get the blame for these calls…it’s the unseen and apparently unaccountable clowns in Toronto or wherever that are somehow interpreting what they see on video differently than everyone else. Utter garbage call and Lalonde was right to lose it! He’s usually a pretty calm guy and the Wings finished the game great…maybe a little inspired by this.

[@patricity9355]

I would never think that single poke to the pads is goaltender interference... its gotta be a lot more then that

[@tester3x]

Not to mention he was sliding into the goal before he was even touched.

[@demoman1596sh]

@@tester3x No he wasn't. Not nearly so forcefully, at least.

[@demoman1596sh]

NHL skaters are not allowed to push the goalie with their stick or any other part of their body/equipment into the goal along with the puck and have it count. The rulebook is very clear on that.

[@patricity9355]

@@demoman1596sh has going for the loose puck here rather then purposefully pushing the goalie which is probably why it wasn't goalie interference. Also I would rather not have every game be like oilers vs sharks where 4 goals get reversed cause the goalie got a little love tap. If the goalie doesnt have the puck players should be allowed to go for it.

[@tester3x]

@@demoman1596sh I'm sorry if I was too harsh. I do realize blind in a handicap. I'm sorry.

[@fringeminority3224]

That was definitely inconclusive and if anything he push the goalie pad over the line

[@mikewhitcanack8536]

Pushing the leg pad of the goaltender is interferes.

[@seanmichael5751]

absolutely fed up with it. there needs to be accountability on these refs for these horrible calls. from this one, to giving a penalty shot to a forward who was touched on the shoulder while breaking for the net. its just been a big joke. the NHL owes me my money back.

[@wnbetv]

I can just imagine watching this as a new fan of hockey and thinking "how am I supposed to understand what the hell is going on when not even the players on the ice have any clue?" This mess is a problem for the league as a whole in more ways than one.

[@njf7426]

Need a video for the MCAVOY interference against Carolina last weekend. Carolina got a similar call as well

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Did he spin the goalie around? He may have, I didn't see it. That's the problem. Taking control of the goalies movement If we're going to allow players to push goalies' gear so it causes them to spin around in unnatural ways? Especially causing the puck to go into their own net? That's definitely goalie interference-the pads are his gear. If Charlie McAvoy did not see the puck, was pushing the goalie pad against the direction the goalie was moving, without the puck in sight? He uses the goalie pad to spin the goalie around so the puck goes in? Ya can't do that. Do you know what period of the game that was? I'll look it up for kicks & giggles sometime- goalies are my thing. I'd be interested in seeing that. Yes, I am a bruins fan- colors don't run after 5 decades. Yet I'm a hockey fan, not a fool! 🐻

[@njf7426]

@@TheFoolintherainn did u see the game lmao? It wants goalie interference it was just a regular one. McAvoy was just chillin center ice, literally not moving, and a hurricane skated backwards by him and barely touched him

[@kingoftrolls19]

​@@njf7426 yeah man that shits stupid as fuck. When you got a player standing still at a blue line and the other team skates into you and you get called for interference.

[@konor5252]

like thats blatant goal tender interference, a player moving the goalie within the blue paint is a no goal you dont have to be a rocket scientist to make the right call

[@augustsmith9633]

Playing devils advocate, maybe the refs saw the flex in Ned's leg as a reaction to be hit by Zucker's stick but only Ned will know if he gave enough force to constitute a push. I don't think there's any "fixing it" tbh; it's a judgement call not something you definitively define. With scrambles in the crease it's 50/50 so just make sure you wear your lucky jock strap.

[@aemaz7287]

I was watching and I thought that this was not a good goal as a player should not be able to push the goalie to get a goal. you might as well just have someone in front of the net and every time the goalie traps a puck, push him over the line...GOAL.

[@charlesdaugherty321]

Players and teams should refuse to play after calls like that. I would never allow my players to risk injury in a game with rulings that bad.

[@scottlaboch4534]

This is why they should keep players outta the blue crease. It should be a penalty. That would give goalies space... unless they're in triple OT & ur name is Bret Hull..🙄

[@Becksy_93]

I mean, I get that I don’t get goalie interference most of the time. So if you wanna tell me that wasn’t it then I guess I’ll take it. BUT you can’t tell me that was okay or that there isn’t some other rule via which to shut that down. Like do we seriously want NHL goals to be scored like that now?!? By pushing a goalies blocker / body part across the goal line while the puck is stuck somewhere under him?!? And if it actually is allowed right now then maybe go and fix the rules!

[@daleguenthner1193]

Penguins refs gonna penguins ref

[@Yeomansify]

That’s twice the penguins have got away with blatant goaltender interference, the other one against Boston when Crosby hit Swayman in the face with his stick and was coving his vision with his stick. The league wants the pens in the playoffs and it shows, shame they’re just bad.

[@Asymmetrical-Saggin]

If it ends up being the Penguins the Bruins get matched up with in the 1st round i feel 100% confident the Bruins will be fine. lol Rough game for Pens tonight lol

[@dustyb58]

looks like his stick goes under the pad, doesn't actually push it over the line

[@kelseywhitlatch173]

I get why they didn’t over turn it. They don’t like to overturn calls and it’s not like he really hit him hard… did that bump really constitute goalie interference? Idk. I’m just saying it’s got to be bad before they want to overturn a call. I wouldn’t say this qualifies as something you see and say oh yea definitely interference there’s some grey area there. At least to me

[@peterpike]

You guys are overthinking this. It's actually really simple. Goalie Interference happens...when someone in Toronto decides it happens.

[@jolbertti7421]

So you can push goalie if puck is somewhere there

[@justinhackney5232]

The Officiating is too much of a deciding factor at some points during games. The rules are there to help with consistency and to keep the integrity of the game intact. when Joe Schmoe decides he does or does not wanna call a penalty for whatever personal reason (outside of not seeing the infraction happen) then that official needs to be looked at.

[@justinhackney5232]

i will add, i know a lot of variables go into these things. but some of these calls are so blatant that its just ridiculous. Strings being pulled?

[@jonathanrandall7220]

It is my understanding that if the puck is under the goalie’s skate then you can stab at it. I play goalie in beer league and this has happened to me. On one of the views last night that is what it looks like to me. My opinion. My son use to ref and it is a tough job, just saying. You try to be consistent. We need more refs everyone!!!

[@philtorrez4198]

WHAT THE F*** IS GOALTENDER INTERFERENCE!?

[@abrahamben-dayan9843]

They need to get sid into the playoffs…

[@analbeats]

Gary Batman sure tried his damnedest to keep the Pens in the playoffs.

[@justinmiller5660]

The puck was already across the line when his pad was pushed. That's why is wants interference. You can't interfere with a goalie after a goal is scored. And before anyone jumps in my shit, watch the video, the push forces the goalies pad across the line sideways in into the net. And the view that shows the puck over the line clearly shows the push after the puck crosses.

[@MseaStormmy]

i hope this ref lost his cool bet

[@arcticgriz20]

As long as just your stick push’s the goalie into the net it’s a goal? If I were a player in the nhl I’d see this example in that game and be like ok 👌🏽 we can use our sticks to push a goalie into the net to score a goal 🥅 👍🏽

[@ethanvx2017]

I don’t think this is goalie interference, he def hit his pad but I think the goalie reached back with his skate on purpose