This Camera Slider Changes Everything - Rhino Arc II Review

[@jkpinpdx]

Its time... Edelkrone vs Rhino comparison video... both are mature enough to compare. We trust your opinion Caleb. 👍🏽

[@ALLWynter]

The production on this video is so amazing. Your attention to detail is wonderful to watch. I would love to see your more creative work. Your presence is top notch as well! Thank you for sharing!!!

[@DocBizzle]

Dude says $2600 and I'm done. LOL

[@AyechinoProd]

Convenience and accuracy don't come cheap. I hope you don't expect this to be $260 either...

[@DocBizzle]

@@AyechinoProd I didn't know what to expect. Not even sure why it showed up as a recommended video. But that doesn't really matter. Either way it was sticker shock when I heard how much those little sliders cost. No offense intended by any means.

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@DocBizzle consider it is for heavier systems. Yes, it can handle a DSLR, but it can also handle a Red system. If you can afford a Red you can afford this. However, if you are new here, do stick around. Caleb has many videos that show how to maximize your buying power. Check out his KZbin on a desk setup. V

[@josephnicklo2994]

Then order a Neewar slider and do your camera moves by hand.

[@DocBizzle]

@@josephnicklo2994 I don't even own a camera. Like I said before, Not sure why this showed up as a suggested video. I clicked it out of curiosity and was shocked at how much it cost. I don't need a Neewar slider or any slider. Can't a guy just make a "whoa, that's expensive" comment without being "Professional photographer attitude" shamed? LOL Gimme a break

[@ItsBourbonNight]

Have you used the Elelkrone Slider Plus system before? Wondering how it would compare.

[@poolshark1002]

I hate the Edelkrone, have the slider pro plus and the app is garbage. I want to try this one

[@markkilby2012]

@@poolshark1002 Arc II slider is a dream Edelkrone Slider Plus compared to this is almost garbage... I mean only if you factor in price difference, ease of use, and build quality....

[@CreativeRyan]

Your review again... crushed it!

[@flammablewater1755]

This review was a way better "ad" for this device than the demo and setup tutorial Rhino made.

[@geraldundone]

Great video, Caleb! Question for ya: Can you do the keyframing with the controls on the head, or do you need the app for that? The one thing I wish my edelkrone system could do is keyframing without the app. I hate apps. 🤓👍

[@dslrvideoshooter]

Gerald Undone yes you can!!!

[@amirhatef7658]

@@ContentCreationWithMatt No,the jittery video is the second.But when something has been given for free to be reviewed,Jittery useless shots become unmentionable!

[@YesItsKent]

Please do a comparison video!

[@SteveT__001]

@@amirhatef7658 Please explain

[@curtisjudd]

Impressive, thanks for the coverage!

[@dslrvideoshooter]

Curtis Judd thank you kind sir!!!

[@tracymartinphotography]

I have had my Rhino Slider for almost 5 years and picked up the Arc I in 2016 - I liked it but never felt that it was as smooth as I needed especially for timelapses. Looking forward to upgrading and happy to hear your rave review.

[@tracymartinphotography]

​@@RhinoCameraGear Thanks, I plan on it. I love my slider and the quality of it is great, it was only the Arc I that I felt wasn't as good as it could have been and the Arc II looks like a fantastic upgrade.

[@kundumehul]

Hey Caleb why not Syrp Ginie and Magic carpet?

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Caleb, just love your hugely helpful and incisive videos. God bless! 💛😎

[@daklafever712]

Looks good, but I too think the Edelkrone seems a better deal, as all the parts are pretty much modular, so if you only need a pan, you dont have to carry around this huge piece of machine. I dont have either, and am looking to purchase,,,,so any thoughts are helpful.

[@TomAntos]

Hey Caleb, I got the same slider and I agree with you it's nearly perfect. Im impressed having tried all the other top sliders on the market, I think this one is the easiest and fastest to setup yet it has all the advanced features.

[@martinwoodfilms]

Still the best? I know Edelkrone has updated since this review

[@Finsterwald_]

@@martinwoodfilms I also would like to know.

[@ShaneHummus]

Just want to quickly say: I bought your course on the Panasonic G7 and it was GREAT. I'm still figuring things out and my videos are still quite bad, but they're getting much better thanks to you and your courses. I haven't watched a single video from you that wasn't top quality. #1 KZbinr in this space and a top 10 favorite youtuber for me. Thanks man!

[@SamHolland]

WOW!! It's pretty close to one of those massive robot arms where you control your camera movements from. Mental. Rhino smash the slider business don't they. Another great video also. Love the super smooth B roll

[@Nujola]

arc ii or edelkrone i ready to buy one

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Tracks your face! That is wow. 💛🙏🏼

[@warathanuts.1005]

Built in battery? What would you do when battery span life is bad? Throw it anyway and buy a new one?

[@fireislandmavic5939]

anyway

[@CarsSimplified]

That's some impressive footage!

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

Thanks for sharing Caleb! This would make filming so easy!

[@KeyserReveal]

I like the joystick control. Being able to jump right into pans and tilts without going into the settings each time is really convenient. This is why my og arc is collecting dust 😬. Nice review

[@frogenslap]

mine just showed up today! cant wait to see what this thing can do!

[@abrinked]

*Clicks on video* 0:12 "2600 dollars" *leaves video*

[@obtv6827]

Same here.

[@Deathbynature89]

You forgot to mention typing out a pointless and uninformed comment before watching the video. Look at 3:21 that is smooth macro movement 105mm. That IS a Professional grade slider dingus.

[@abrinked]

@@Deathbynature89 Yeah and now try to imagine that it wasn't a really serious comment.

[@KarlMarkusAntson]

Just looking for a motorized slider. Could you review/compare any of the low budget version that you can get off Amazon from 200-600$? Like GVM, Konovo, Neewer, Ashanks? This would be very helpful for wider audience as we don’t need perfect slider, as they are more expensive, we need good enough.

[@carltoncanary]

How do you feel about this system vs the edelkrone version of the same thing?

[@PeterKertz]

I had the Edelkrone and switched to Rhino. Edelkrone is a very nice product...for smaller cameras. If you want to think about using a C300, or similar, forget it. Mine frequently had some tiny little movements, jitters, or bowing. Rhino doesn't have that issue. This is just my experience using both with the C300M2.

[@Laowu_MY]

Which motor you are using ?

[@goodeggproductions]

I'm also wondering why you didn't mention Edelkrone. I was an early adopter with their motion control system and they constantly supported their system through firmware updates and app development. They even upgraded the head and slider modules for me at zero cost a year after I purchased. Their V2 modules are far better. I'm not shilling for them, but I'm just wondering why you chose to go with a crowd funded upstart rather than the company that has been established for years in the affordable motion control systems. This Rhino appears to have some interesting features not found on Edelkrone, like the joysticks on the unit and the screen to let you know what's happening. The face recognition just seems like a gimmick. But the Edelkrone works wirelessly with its components. So no ethernet cables getting in the way. Plus, it folds flat to put in a bag, although the Rhino seems pretty compact itself. And even though you say that the battery lasts "forever", I like the Edelkrone solution better since it can accept LP-E6 battery plates or Sony F-type plates, or AC in. At least the Rhino system offers a high torque slider motor option for incline shots. Edelkrone offers no such option. Their motors are not recommended for more than a few degrees incline because of how you can just push it to where you want to make target keys. Sorry for hijacking your video comments, but people wanted to know differences between the two systems.

[@lorduvaltv274]

sound like you prefer Edelkrone but didnt hesitate to list several reason why someone would pick Rhino. Great comment! 👍🏿

[@rogerhuston8287]

I think Edelkrone has the lead when you talk Ecosystem. You can do a whole lot with the parts. Rhino is more specialized. Yes you. An use a DSLR, but this system can handle a Red no problem. The direct control with the joysticks can replace a fluid head for some use cases plus give you the ability for repeat ability. My question is can it record a movement and then replay it exactly. Not create a movement with way points and then replay that, but record a clip of a manual operation then replay that exactly? Personally, I think the Arc system can support many more use cases. Just the automatic ease in and out is fantastic for a new camera operator who doesn't have a lot of experience with a fluid head. You can do all the manual movements that you can't do with any other system plus all of the automated.

[@gabenoll]

Having used both Edelkrone and Rhino's motion control systems, they are quite different. Definitely not comparing apples to apples. Edelkrone is quality, has a great ecosystem, and their slider and motion control system are proven. However, it cannot support much weight at all, especially when considering bigger slider moves that shift almost all of the weight to the end of the unit. Not a flaw in the unit, just an issue if wanting to accomplish those spoecific moves. Also, Rhino is a rather respected manufacturer for a while now as well, and put a lot of R&D into this product.

[@edrugmanmusic]

I’m curious as to how repeatable the moves are on the Rhino. The Edelkrone seems to mention repeatable motion control for compositing on their site... the rhino doesn’t really make much mention of this... has anyone tried to composite shots using the rhino or have any experience of how close they compare in this respect? The weight handling and speed options appeal to me for the rhino, the restriction of only 2 key frames in the app is a worry to me. The Edelkrone I like the smaller form slider but worry about any angling that it might not cope with as well as the sheer weight of the system (sleek it is not)....

[@goodeggproductions]

@@edrugmanmusic I'll tell you this much. You better have a REALLY good tripod for the Edelkrone system. I have a beefy Manfrotto with a 75mm bowl and I need the strength of King Kong to wrench it down so it won't shift toward the extremes of the travel of the slider. And that was only using a GH5 and a monitor on the head module. It's a heavy system. But with that weight comes some stability.

[@ericguqin]

can you review and compare it with Edelkrone sliderone and headone?

[@erwickdsouza]

Hey yur bvideos are brighter again! Great going!

[@mattalber]

Thanks Caleb! Sold. Any chance Rhino will reinstate your discount code? Feels only right since I wouldn't have known about or decided to snag one of these without your rad video. Fingers crossed...

[@badhonebrahim7707]

"$2600? woa really :) :) :) so fuccking cheap......" closes the video instantly

[@Kommentarkanal-pc5nl]

Did you checked out Edelkrone?

[@peterallely5417]

Hey Caleb, try get your hands on a Syrp Genie II 3 axis kit, maybe with the Magic Carpet Pro track. They don’t have a focus integration, yet, but I’d say without a doubt that’ll be coming.

[@SteveT__001]

Syrp gear seems more costly than Edelkrone when you start adding pan tilt head and such

[@henrymortimer7280]

Would you mind sharing how you lit your background for this? I love the radial light from light to dark that you are standing in front of. What background did you shine the light on? What color was it? By the way, as a result of this video, I bought your course.

[@PolluxChung]

I have seen people putting a Ronin-S or SC on slider and seem to do the similar job fine.

[@kippurkippur6674]

Thank you! Very nicely done. I'd like to see this in a side-by-side with the Edelkrone, too. Also, what is the small red tabletop tripod you are using?

[@IamIvanStan]

Can the head and motor be used with other similar sliders. I have benro moveover 12 which is quite similar to rhino slider

[@TonyBabarino]

Rhino support emailed me 2 days ago saying the will have a firmware upgrade coming to give 5 keyframes instead of 2!!

[@TonyBabarino]

RhinoCameraGear Why don’t we have it now? I’m not buying Rhino Arch II until I know I can do 5 (or more??) keyframes! Please. It’s almost Christmas; bring it early! 👍

[@eriklundqvist4221]

This update is still not available btw :)

[@busyrand]

Dude... Perfect! Just exactly what I was looking for....

[@SkyeMauMau]

I love your videos Caleb! I hope to enrol to your bmpcc course real soon as I recently got my gears and i'd love to buy the Arc II device in a few months! Pray for me please! :D

[@AllThingsFilm1]

I'm dying to get an Arc II slider system. After I saw it demo'd at CineGear at Paramount earlier this year, I knew I wanted it. My eyes are on the same system you bought.

[@CamtasticRide]

Enjoy it Caleb! I was pretty excited to get mine too. Although I tried to do a parallax shot on some products for a high end client and after setting my keyframes and hitting go. The framing of my shot drifted side to side. It always landed where I wanted but never kept the product centered. Hoping they add more keyframes soon. Two just isn't enough for some jobs. Cant wait to use it on an interview though where that drift won't matter as much.

[@philpritchard5173]

Grt video Thx Caleb. I had one question, which is..how fast can the slider go? Mainly the 'x' axis..ie. how fast can it travel?

[@revnetllc]

Caleb does the motion controls come with a remote unit? Let's say the talent wants to control it and they work alone to film themselves they would need a remote? Does it have one?

[@Smartscope98]

Have you used this with a C200? Curious how smooth the movement is with a heavier payload, even if it says it can support up to 15 lbs.

[@PaulHarwood856]

Hello Caleb, Thanks for making this video. Question for you. Can you provide a link to the small red tripod? There are shots with your BMPCC attached to it. Thanks. - Paul

[@TomasVillegas]

Great review, I'd be interested in getting one to compare to my current system. Looks like great competition and that's good for all of us.

[@BarefootMediaTV]

what happened to the rhino evo? it was cheaper but did the exact same thing. they just stopped selling it anywhere though.

[@TymekStolarz]

Hey Caleb, Thanks for the great review. i am about to pull the trigger on a motion control system and was in between this and the Edelkrone. But the more i look into, it seems that Edelkrone suffers from jitters in its movements. i was wondering if you were still very happy with the Arc II and it was still providing you with butter smooth footage all the time now that you've had it for a little. Thank you so much in advance

[@benjamin_lecomte]

Thx for the vid, did you tried the Syrp system and be able to compare to this Rhino Arc II ?

[@HealthyLensMedia]

Great slider and video! How is the weight limit on it for a large set up like a black Magic Ursa Mini and a large cinema lens?

[@kgone]

Awesome review

[@Prashant.Khapane]

Thanks. I law ya wonder what is that tiny tripod/head combination you have.

[@beMOTIONdESIGN]

I saw this at NAB back in April and it was a game changer for me especially after being REALLY disappointed with the Edelkrone products I purchased 6 months prior.

[@ephemere82]

do you think this will be the year where all pano head will be replaced by gimbal with remote control?

[@KarlMarkusAntson]

Slider companies, please make a ok motorized slider under 500$. This is what people want!

[@Joey.Alford]

Rhino ROV is pretty cheap!

[@KarlMarkusAntson]

Joey Alford thanks for the recommendation!

[@kevindud333]

What is the mini tripod that you use in all your vids, please? The red and black one.

[@ThinkingArtEntertainment]

Can you use the arc II as a jib head?

[@cyanidex]

1:35 Diggin' the MKBHD shirt!

[@magnusgotander3954]

To little of hands on exemples otherwice very informative.

[@fulviotrincacolonel6056]

Hey, I totally loved your video, super impressive! After seeing it I bought it! May I ask you one thing? When I clink start on the arc ii module (pressing the joystick), does it automatically start the recording on the camera? Or I have to physically push the record button on my camera ? Thanks in advance for your answer!

[@yassersaeed2771]

Thanks for another great review from a great channel. Have you tried Edelkrone SliderPlus with HeadPlus + Focus and Laser modules? And how dose this compare to it?

[@d.j.dierker3111]

Has the focus control feature been useful?

[@OpenDGuitar]

We invested in the Kessler 2nd Shooter a few years ago. While bit bulky, it certainly works perfectly well, and does all of this stuff. Maybe when it dies we consider other systems. No GAS here.

[@NathanVeer]

Which motor did you end up going with? The high speed or slower High torq one? What do you recommend for someone who will be mainly using it for interviews and the odd timelapse?

[@stargaitanis]

I think buying a gimbal is a better investment if you want motorized pan&tilt. You can get an adapter for the Ronin S that allows you to mount it without the battery (you power it externally), making it very compact. You can get motion controlled shots, timelapses and all the good stuff, and also have a gimbal at the same time. The price difference is just massive.

[@CarlosRodriguez-cj8oo]

Thanks for the info and review as always great, though I can’t afford quite yet. A while ago you made a video on your hard drive back up setup. I’m wondering do you still use an iMac (I just got a late 2014 5k cheap) and am I correct to assume you don’t need much of a hard drive in the iMac itself?

[@Finsterwald_]

Hi mate, are you still satisfied with it? How is the long term experience? And is this system better than Edelkrone?

[@chancefield7787]

Will this link save 10% on the rov pro?

[@georgespogacich3066]

Can you pan 360 degrees? I saw the EdleKrone and because it's wireless it pans 360 degrees.. How far can it pan to the left and the right? Can it be tilted straight up or down?

[@rezaVfx]

thx. what do u think about Jibone + headPlus?

[@JonRatzlaff]

Okay, what is that tiny little tripod he always has in his videos? I want that!

[@OUCGN]

It's almost the same price with Edelkrone Jibone. Which one would you recommend? Thanks for the vid!

[@davidcrawford9030]

For e it will be either: Arc 2 or Black Forest Motion bundles (they seem more reliable and very well built)

[@madhuk9006]

Brother can you do a video on budget video transmitter and receiver Please?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Great film, totally sold on this!

[@mortgagefinancing5558]

Can I buy this in Canada or can you only get it through the USA ?

[@EETSTHECREATOR]

Is there a big long one?

[@rivers8517]

Love the slider. Any chance you can update the discount code? Its saying it is invalid now.

[@ADNZ5442]

Dose this slider judder? Still worth the buy?

[@yourhappyuncle6055]

So can use it with a FS5 + Shogun Inferno?

[@FKfilmphotography]

And what about the original arc?

[@DrewRomano]

Hey man, i have a quick question about your studio. And about it being in a basement and if you have any challenges with that. Im trying to build one and finding it difficult to decided where to build. The basement scares me because of humidity and potential flooding. Do you have thoughts on this?

[@dylanfgarrison]

Do you have an affiliate link to your backdrop?

[@leelovetv]

Do you still recommend the Rhino Arc 2 slider ?

[@kermitshamburger774]

Thank you for making this video. I was thinking about buying the Arc 2 and using it with a BMP6K sigma 18-35 with no auto focus. in your opinion how is the Arc 2 focus system during slider movements for cameras with no auto focus?

[@ErichNolanBertussi]

curious what you think about edelkrone?

[@rogerhuston8287]

I really like this system for Studio work, but it's heavy for field work when compared to Syrp for example.

[@eriklundqvist4221]

Do you have any experience with the Syrp Genie 2 stuff?

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@eriklundqvist4221 No, which is why I asked Gerald to review it. I've seen other reviews and I really like the form factor, but I trust Gerald.

[@eriklundqvist4221]

Roger Huston Yes the genie 2 form factor is very appealing. I feel like it’s more portable than the arc 2

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@eriklundqvist4221 I just wonder how well it works. Before this video I thought the Edelkrone system was really good, but most reviews were sponsored. Gerald goes into more detail. For me, I want to use it for timelapse, not beauty shots so the use case is very different.

[@eriklundqvist4221]

Roger Huston he barely does anything with the arc 2. If you join the Rhino Storytellers group on Facebook you’ll see lots of people having severe issues with the arc 2.

[@lishope3014]

Can I use arc ii to stay on foca diffrent slider say a edelkrone v2?

[@buddyfx7026]

Just watched Gerald's video where he ripped Edelkrone a new one. That said, no barrel roll on the system and it seems like another negative for Rhino is it's pretty slow, correct? Just trying to weigh pros and cons before I purchase + faster movement is a big one for me.

[@EYECRAFTVideo]

Can you set focus points

[@shinanmeethal]

I’m still waiting for your fs700 r plus inferno combo review video 😬

[@HuFilms]

Looks great but I wish they did a wireless system for communicating rather than the ethernet cables. Surely that can be done easily. Also, they badly need to update the way the motor is screwed onto the slider legs, those screws are so hard to tighten with your hand. Having said that, my Rhino motion has been great for the last two years (when it doesn't 'bump')

[@dslrvideoshooter]

Hugh Sweeney cables have huge advantages though. Little to no latency, few bugs and as for the motor on the slider, it’s crazy well designed. Knobs are a bit fiddly but I love how minimal it is.

[@GregCorson]

Do you know if the focus motor can be hooked up to the zoom ring to do a zoom instead?

[@hulk2212]

Could you tell me what type of motor you were using in the video?

[@crysistec]

Please do the Sony F4 review

[@MuwexTech]

Dang I want it! But I have slider and extra rarely use it. I use either tripod no moving pretty much or just shoulder!

[@rodrigotasca8735]

What's the discount code for the purchase?

[@JOHAN_PERJUS]

Does anyone know if this if frame-by-frame accurate MoCo? As in if you would overlay say ten or so takes onto each other they would be a frame-by-frame perfect match, as in true motion control, or? It probably could be if they had opted for a rack and pinion solution instead of a cog belt. Can’t see why they didn’t.

[@certifiedstreetentertainme6794]

I was looking for a gimbal, my question is what advantages does this have over a gimbal with object tracking like the Ronin on a tripod?