This Car Gained 50 HORSEPOWER After Fixing ONE Setting!

We basically added a turbo by checking a box in the tune. Epic.
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0:00 Intro
0:52 Virtual Dyno & Dragy Data
2:56 First Things to Check
4:08 Checking The Tune/Logs
5:13 Why Base Timing is SO Important
8:42 Finding The Cause For Power Loss
12:11 Resolving The Problem
13:12 Updated Results!

[@harrisonswindler838]

I have a nb2 with itbs running me221, is there a way I could check for the same problems with meite?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Yes, it's basically the same exact thing, especially since you can use the same program, Mega Log Viewer, to check your logs and verify that your final advance matches what the spark map is commanding (at least when it's supposed to). The only difference is that the titles of each metric will be different. I believe in the ME logs (I use an ME442 in my NB) what you want to compare is "Ign. Adv. Final" against "Ign. Adv. Base Out." If those are different, you can use the other "Ign." metrics to see what's adding or subtracting timing, and verify if you want it to do that or not. During cold start and idle are prime examples of when those 2 values might differ, but they are supposed to.

[@robertpratt3412]

So weird seeing my car as a thumbnail, always again thank you for the help

[@kingbryant5673]

Don't be a weenie post a pull video on KZbin

[@harrisonswindler838]

Are you in Charlotte miatas

[@str8slayn1]

Charlotte Miatas ftw

[@robertpratt3412]

@@harrisonswindler838 I am, just moved here a week ago!

[@harrisonswindler838]

@@robertpratt3412 haha sick, I’m the guy with itbs.

[@testacorsa150]

Genuine tuning Sherlock. Wow. I wonder if you will ever become a professional tuner some day. You're a pro already.

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

he's already a pro if you compare to the appalling knowledge level of tuners these days.

[@austinlee3288]

Love these technical megasquirt videos! I work in an automotive repair shop (we dont tune anything) and have several customers come to us with no start miatas that are on megasquirt. I've been able to use a lot of the info I've learned from your channel to diagnose the issues and at least get them running again, thank you!

[@beersoap8406]

Great video! When I first got my turbo car up and running, it was only making 160 hp at 14 psi. After a lot of confusion, we realized we never set base timing 😆 it was off by a lot, and once we set it, the car gained 60 horsepower.

[@BKStmo]

Mazda Miata - making car owners happy since 1989! Greg Peters - making Miata owners even happier since 2013!

[@travismooney3224]

Not gonna lie, kind of like the “talking head” videos and how informative they are

[@markfelkey1720]

Sure, this fix might only be 100% applicable for "11 people" but the tuning explanation and insights will help 1111 of us for sure. Always great to see tuning advice and explanation so please keep it up!

[@PanditaP]

It’s amazing that you find time to help all of us. You helped this weekend with a few questions too. Thanks man 🤙🏽🔥. You should really set up a remote tuning service. I’d gladly pay you to tune my car once I go stand-alone.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

That's where my friends at Speed By Y come in 😊 (See ending screen) I wish I could tune everyone's car myself! But then there would be no more videos 🥲

[@PanditaP]

@@TheCarPassionChannel oh I didn't even see that! I was listening to the video with headphones while working. I'll have to check them out.

[@jameswieser2857]

Great video and explanation. Alot of people struggle with that stacking of corrections. This video explained that well! And really opens the eyes to how they work. Thanks for time and effort for the video, and helping a member in the community! You Rock Miata Dad!

[@s.willis8426]

Thank you for explaining the 14 degree mod on a stock ECU vs switching to a stand alone. I was planning the stand alone project for this summer (temporarily on hold because I'm moving to a smog testing state) and have been running 14 on the stock ECU. I was very unsure how I was supposed to proceed, now I know got back to 10 before the install starts.

[@DrifterDavid]

Heck yeah, glad you could help him out. Always learning new stuff about tunerstudio all the time!

[@mazboengineer]

Nice skills Greg 👏🏼🤓 it’s so satisfying when you get to the bottom of an elusive problem - and double good when you’re helping someone out. Super informative content as usual. Great work man 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@IonicMAP]

consistently the best DIY car channel on youtube

[@lindkvistandreas]

this made me look into the engine state and idle settings a little bit more and found other things that would explain weird behaviour in my setup .. (e.g. why overrun does not engage, it looks like the threashold was set to low in the engine state settings! ) .. thank you for sharing this.. this was awesome!..

[@Thatdavemarsh]

Nice find. Great explanation. As a novice speeduino owner, this kind of content is great.

[@Gabtoks]

Man you keep on doing such a good job with your videos. Many many thanks I am sure a lot of people will benefit from this info. Your videos gave me the info and confidence I needed to decide to turbo my car, best decision ever!

[@KayneWalshNZ]

This was absolutely amazing please more more more insightful tuning vids!!

[@whatleytom]

You just helped me find about 40bhp. I’ve been looking around for ages to find why I was so low on power on my vvt nb on itbs. Thought I had vaccuum leaks and all sorts of random things. Turns out my base timing was quite a long way out. Feels and sounds like a different car altogether now 🙏

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Dude that's awesome to hear!!

[@michaelbarefoot6334]

Sterling told me he hit you up. I should of looked at his tune myself. We are local to the Jacksonville, NC area until he moves. It's funny how one little thing can change it all, LOL!

[@rider1388]

I'm only about 2 hours north of you up in Greenville NC!!

[@michaelbarefoot6334]

@@rider1388 Maybe I can make the next cars and coffee there.

[@rider1388]

@@michaelbarefoot6334 That would be the insane! You mean the one in Winterville?

[@DannyCourtney1]

Such a great channel that goes into crazy things like this

[@Cloverleaf7642]

Congratulations on a brilliant result. Enjoy!

[@JonnyMiata]

I'm also running no TPS and had idle advance going. Went out and ripped it while datalogging, and surely enough I was stuck at 12 degrees the whole pull. Went in, turned off idle advance and let's just say it finally felt like I had 1.8 the next pull! Thanks greg!

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Spicy difference between 12° and 30°+ eh 😏

[@JonnyMiata]

@@TheCarPassionChannel wow fast reply for a video this old.. very spicy!

[@Procharged32]

Neat information well done.

[@DaRealChrispy]

Ayyy this helps a lot man. Thanks

[@shirtz69r]

Glad to hear you helped yet another follower. Well done dad

[@toddkane3152]

The depth of diagnostic content adds depth for me. Did you ever produce motorcycle content?

[@beratsbuilds]

Thanks Greek for the video

[@joro8604]

Good knowledge!

[@pssstttchhh]

Love the info thank ya

[@alexp6016]

Wow, that must have felt amazing on the first pull!

[@justingutierrez7601]

Love this video, you should do a Ted Talk or Podcast

[@GmoLargey]

amazed that's been missed, guess I was lucky with Dimitri's ms2 enhanced included instructions.

[@alleyman82]

Hey Greg, motorsport electronic tuning, Is their software just for their stand-a-lone units? Is there something that is pretty good for the stock ECU's? I know there is HP Tuners out there. The Dragy you talked about, do they have tuning software or do they just pull logs that you would use another software to edit/tune with? I do not have any time under the hood with software. It always been timing lights and carbs.

[@carlosc6021]

this man in a legend.

[@Simpyspec]

Greg I love you , If it wasn’t for you I’d be stuck watching goons on KZbin do everything incorrectly on Miata’s . Thank you

[@CrEaTiVeONE5962]

Hey greg, i drive a 1999 1.6L NB miata with a Kraken low mount and a chinese T25 turbo (in europe the NB's were sold with 1.6's aswell, not sure if you were aware) but since i installed my megasquirt i cant seem to get the VSS to work in tuner studio, the car has ABS. Do i need to run an extra wire or is it just a setting thats configured wrong. Any help would be greatly apreciated

[@carljosefsson]

great job, finding that one out!!! as I get it was this an unopened engine only new intake and exhaust manifold?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Correct; intake, intake manifold, headers, exhaust, and standalone ECU.

[@carljosefsson]

@@TheCarPassionChannel looking promising for my potential installation of the MS sitting on a shelf in my garage

[@Epiphonech]

My tuner neglected to reset the MAT Air Density Table so the AFR was very weather dependable before I got to learn it and tune it for MOT

[@manueliglesias4212]

I’ve made that mistake on my e30 with the fixed advance setting and the turbo manifold was glowing red after cruising it for a few blocks

[@matthewhenry6797]

I have a 92 with idle issues when I put the ac on or shift it into gear it almost stalls

[@damarlo1]

Any remote tuners you would suggest? I cant find anyone in the dallas ft worth area of Texas that will touch a speedyefi unit 😪 90 1.6 5 speed na with custom exhaust. I've tried to play around with a base tune, but i was at 14° timing and set my timing in tuner studio at 14° as well.. It ran terribly 😅 had no idea standalone needs to be at 10. May have to give it another go. Also would i have to run my 93 out and start using 87 just to get a decent base tune done, then switch back to 93 once i got everything running good on 87 and im ready to mess with that set of tables? Or just stick to 93 and tune it from there? Complete noob when it comes to the electronics side of the car 😮‍💨

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Absolutely, my homie Speed By Y. I have his info linked in the description, and if you mention my channel you'll get a discount on a full tune

[@Yaboybash]

Hey Greg, I have a 92’ 1.6 with a 4 to 1 header, a ISR catless catback exhaust, stock intake with AFM still on, I have a mega squirt laying around as I wanna boost the car later on but I wanna keep it NA for now as I autoX and track it. Is it worth throwing on the megasquirt and tune on 93? I don’t know any NA tuners here in Houston Texas

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Yeah dude, totally worth it. You'll be able to delete the AFM, dial in the AFR, and re-tune the spark map for 93 octane rather than the conservative 87 octane tune they come with. I wouldn't be surprised to see +10% power over what it's at now

[@Thatdavemarsh]

90 NA owner with a SpeedyEFI. Not boosted (yet) but wholly recommend doing the install before the turbo to debug and really understand your engine before boosting. You can have a lot of fun (and frustration) learning how to tune, but it’s worth really learning about your engine.

[@danielthomas8507]

5000 hp miata ...f*ck yeah..lol

[@fr0styjack43]

Literally did this with my turbo Miata with the fixed table setting left on lol 😅

[@CesarRios1]

That’s pretty cool not gonna lie

[@wyattorrante13]

I actually left my Miata on fixed timing on accident before when I put in my mega squirt, I swapped in a 99 engine and was wondering why it felt even slower lmao

[@jjpb1993]

You are very smart.

[@Nasonix2]

Boosted cheers

[@motomenace86]

From memory manual miatas just have a on off tps, and autos have an actual position sensor. For a auto tps i think u just repin 2 wires to have it work.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Correction - 90-93 1.6 manuals have a WOT switch. 90-93 autos have a VTPS. And all 1994-2005 cars have VTPS regardless of transmission

[@Nasonix2]

Woot woot 🚗

[@J3n555]

Miata dad just doing miata dad things

[@jasonmanness7941]

oh man, where'd you get those sweet miata neon lights?

[@_Jonez_]

He featured them in the episode before this I think :)

[@shirtz69r]

Check the last vid

[@multimikeish]

Link is in vid description

[@jasonmanness7941]

Just saw the link in description, thanks all!

[@martinrodger9565]

So accurate he corrected the weight in virtual dyno for a 2lb poo.

[@Epiphonech]

God praise the logs!

[@chinkysweat]

How did you get audio so crisp with a yeti and audacity

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Haha, step 1: have your gf tell you that your audio is bad. Step 2: watch 2 hours of tutorials and learn to edit audio, lol. In a nutshell, use Audacity to run a compressor, EQ to raise lows and highs, and amplify as needed to adjust overall volume +/-. Then in Premiere I use a High Pass Filter @ 100Hz to pretty much eliminate pops from blowing on the mic. (Could also be done in Audacity I'm sure)

[@SpeedWhomp420]

Is that your ignition table? 19-25 degrees at idle seems aggressive

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

That's the base tune from Megasquirt/DIY for their MS3 actually. I run about 12 degrees at idle, so the idle speed timing correction is more effective.

[@SpeedWhomp420]

TheCarPassionChannel ahhh ok. That’s why my car ran like crap on it lol

[@hewbambam]

I have a 1.6 with an ihi rhf4 turbo, no intercooler yet but I'm only on 4 psi. I've pulled my timing to 28° at 5,000rpm and still occasionally hear it detonate. I'm going to install an iat sensor this weekend and see what my intake temps are doing. And my base timing is set correctly. Is anyone else running a turbo 1.6 with no intercooler and can I see your timing map to compare to mine?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

28 still seems pretty spicy for a non-intercooled turbo system, even if it's low boost. My friends at Gearhead Garage ran a 2560R at 7psi non-intercooled and saw 180° intake temps. I'm running about 32-33° n/a @ wot.

[@bingoberra18]

What ECU and tuning software was this?

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

gonna guess Megasquirt MS3, software is TunerStudio

[@robertpratt3412]

Ms3pro pnp and tuner studio. I used virtual dyno and megalog viewer as side programs

[@dookiebutt5011]

i love you greg

[@peanutbutterpadre1519]

Throw in some clips out of your old videos as b roll when you are talking you have a huge catalog of great clips

[@AndrewTheHoff]

I'm over here just trying to street tune my volvo 240 b230ft and its a pain in the ass lol

[@insan1ty562]

notification club!

[@xxshamwowxx797]

Unfortunately my miata is dead. Since last Wednesday. Spark and fuel are good. But just turns over and sounds terrible. Last Wednesday I drove it home from work then the next day she wouldn't start. Air, fuel spark and compression all good. Stock ecu.. 1.8 1992 swap

[@travismooney3224]

Yes!!! Dad!!!

[@Dustrunnersauto]

Dad, what’s your opinion on LS swapped Miata’s?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

It's hard to argue against them, in any way. Excellent power, predictable power, reliable power, and minimal weight gain.

[@Ahaggah]

@@TheCarPassionChannel What's your opinion on rotary swapped miatas?

[@christianolsen1256]

Let me be the first to say it: this tuner has messed up this ROM so badly, it's almost as if he started with a safety map, for turbo remote tuning, from an existing ROM, and tried to learn it's way on a customer's car.

[@dookiebutt5011]

this only works with standalone right?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

The stock ECU has no adjustability, so yes.

[@johntosh6146]

No tps would have meant that it's essentially running in 2D mode and using the 0 tps lines of the spark and fuel maps. This is definitely not the tuners fault here as he probably had no idea the TPS wasn't connected, although one of the 1st things I do is Check the TPS calibration as part of the initial checks. I have run engines without tps but drivability suffers badly.

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

lol no, maps have MAP in the load axis, nobody uses TPS for that.

[@johntosh6146]

@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei it still requires a TPS signal regardless of what you use as a load reference. Plenty NA cars are tuned on TPS as load reference especially on ITBs

[@robertpratt3412]

My tuners was well aware I had no tps, drivability is amazing arguably better than stock now. It’s all about finding a tuner who knows what they’re doing on a no tps car. Remember most cars didn’t have tps for close to 100 years

[@hewbambam]

Note: in ms2 this is a bit different

[@dancook828]

Ok weridness you want weirdness you shal get 🤣 my 1997 mk1 1.8 running an me221 with a pre 95 import loom (i had some rather odd wiring to remove and a loom swap was the easy option) When it gets close to up to tempriture ideling plugs 1&4 just stop working completly and it just runs like poop and dies then refuses to restart hot or cold I pull the plugs 2&3 are black and stink of fule plugs 1&4 not a mark on them It works fine when the eng is less than 70c on fresh plugs but soon as it starts getting up to temp it just nopes out and wont start again hot or cold and fouls the plugs again Coil packs havent even got 30 mins run time on them since i changed them timing is fine put in new lead,cas, fulepump, fule pressure reg, injectors and still having issues with it Cant set the base idle speed cause it simply wont get up to temp and stay there only outher thing iv changed about the car is i pulled the maf for an intake temp sensor

[@CarsMeetsBikes]

Man my NA6 is probably making more power than his car was 😂😂

[@86surge90]

So this guy (not Greg) is making msm hp?

[@robertpratt3412]

Yessir, that was my goal msm hp out of a unopened n/a car, now that I achieved that I’m going into building my head aiming for 190 😬

[@scottersandman6408]

4 teeth would bend valves.....

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

On a non-interference engine? Negative.

[@fransvanzelst1398]

FIRST

[@friendlyreptile9931]

I have a question about that blue car from the thumbnail. What suspensions / coilover or however it's named in english, does that car have?

[@CommentingTheTruth]

So lost 58 and gained 58. net ZERO gain... No use for most people

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Very useful for the surprising amount of people who don't install their timing belt correctly.