This Church's Illegal, Religious "Hamilton" Rip-Off is SO BAD (Scamilton)

[@GraceSavidesKeller]

Nothing says, "No homosexuality," like an elaborate musical production.

[@kallen868]

😂 Truth!

[@serenegenerally]

If anything a theatre production is inherently fruity

[@synodicseason]

i was in my school musical last year & a good third of us were gay/trans

[@brettmastema7056]

I dont struggle with homosexuality, i'm quite good at it

[@kallen868]

@@brettmastema7056 ❤😍

[@britnicox3929]

The wildest thing to me is that they clearly have enough money that they could just make their own damn play

[@alisaurus4224]

But clearly writing is hard for them, judging by the clunky edits and additions. Much easier to steal & ask forgiveness later. Actually, i would bet they feel justified in breaking any number of laws if it’s in service of spreading ✨the Gospel✨… as if all of Texas isn’t already spread thicker with Jesus than Elvis’ sandwiches with peanut butter

[@twimmy1581]

Yeah but then how would they capitalize on the existing love for the Hamilton music THEN?

[@britnicox3929]

@@alisaurus4224 oh yeah they definitely feel justified in it

[@alexiswelsh5821]

IKR, how hard is it to come up with a story with the following plot: 1. MC is born and raised in a bad part of an empire. 2. MC is orphaned, and loses the rest of his family. 3. MC rejects Jesus. 4. By the Grace of God, MC survives a natural disaster and is able to move to a better part of the empire and go to college. 5. MC helps part of the empire rebel and become it’s own country. 6. MC becomes corrupted by ambition, pride, and eventually lust. 7. MC’s marriage falls apart, people disown him, and his oldest kid dies. 8. MC accepts Jesus back into his life and fixes his relationships. 9. MC is no longer ambitious and lustful, however he still struggles with pride. 10. MC’s pride ends up killing him.

[@misselizabethplays8070]

@@twimmy1581 Word. This is not about creative expression, this is about trying to co-opt something popular and turn it into a propaganda tool. That, and giving their congregation a "clean alternative" to something popular, but could possibly be "corrupted" by participating in. Something they do a lot, actually- a few examples come to mind: "Harvest festivals", Bibleman, every Christian pop artist...

[@botanicus2921]

This production really shows that if you don’t distress the Hamilton costumes, they all look super cheesy

[@teasorceryr3633]

The Party City version of Hamilton!

[@lexwithbub]

But also, no amount of distressing can fix that shitty polyester 😉

[@Jessidafennecfox]

@@lexwithbub it looks like something a newbie cosplayer would wear

[@botanicus2921]

@@lexwithbub hey man, you’d be surprised the materials that get used in professional settings. Maybe not for a broadway show, but there have definitely been uses on screen. It’s incredible what a great painter and costumer can do even with limited budgets

[@jungtothehuimang]

There costumes were serving dollar tree Halloween meets party city going out of business sale

[@mysticloverfairy1]

The church: Thou shalt not steal Also the church: Let’s steal this highly successful musical and try to indoctrinate to people .

[@nantae1047]

That's the horrendeous part, they think stealing is ok if if helps a 1% of the audience mEeT jEsUs

[@gianna526]

Exactly, the second church isn't the first one. These kind of religious nuts aren't even following the religion. God never said to hate anyone, yet they hate the lgbtq community. I'm a Christian and so often these crazy religious people go against the religion they claim to follow.

[@brettmastema7056]

a Methodist church in Vegas tried to do that and decided to make themselves look like a new theatre group. They started the season with Bye Bye Birdie which was done in the main church area. We sat in the pews to watch, because my friends daughter was in it. I spent most of the show writing stories about bestiality in Sharpie in the Bibles in front of me. They didn't do another show, they were in over their heads.

[@skaisnotdead]

Most of Christianity is stolen from other religions so really it's the baseline of the institution.

[@jassychanVO]

Would like, but it's at 666 😩

[@Sarahonwheels]

The last scene with Elizabeth narrating all her accomplishments before she dies is so powerful and moving and the church version is just like I showed children Jesus. It’s like she just made a orphanage to indoctrinate children. Ugh

[@elaexplorer]

Well sure, these types of churches always limit women's accomplishments to mothering duties.

[@axstorm2191]

there is nothing indoctrinating about bringing a child to Jesus Christ.

[@SkwithOv]

@@axstorm2191 lol sure jan

[@herrysterling6189]

@@axstorm2191 from an outsider perspective it's indoctrination

[@lrose5522]

@@axstorm2191 I'll take "What is indoctrination" for 200 please

[@ericb9252]

As a Pansexual Christian in the dirty south, I can honestly say nothing good can come after the phrase "a church in Texas".

[@hannacosmos]

A church in Texas burned down with kkk members inside, no one survived 🎺

[@hsisnothere]

aye pansexuals unite 🤙🏻

[@Debo_OG]

🤣🤣

[@genesiselaine]

😭

[@stupidass69420]

im a trans aroace and I’ve been to Texas to see my family a few years back, it was NOT fun 😃!!

[@roxannablack666]

I’ve never seen Hamilton, but because they used a beloved Broadway musical to push a homophobic message I honestly hope that this church gets sued to the ground.

[@kaodi6993]

yes 🤷🏾‍♂️ and they have alot of money.

[@roxannablack666]

I’m a big fan of taking money from religious organizations anyway. They have way too much lol.

[@DaraJill]

As many an Etsy seller has learned: Never Fuck with Disney's Bag. Disney has no problem going after small creators for infringing on their IP.

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

Yeah, you aren't missing much with Hamilton. For me, I literally only give a shit because it's anti-gay.

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

exactly. that has to be defamation, too if they're saying Lin would approve a homophobic version of this.

[@tobywobydog]

I just think it’s funny that they removed a bunch of songs but keep “Say no to this” which is literally about Hamilton cheating…

[@brettmastema7056]

I think that pastor had a wife who cheated in his past. He really was blaming much of the problems of AH on that one thing.

[@quasi8180]

Ah the irony

[@Wade.Stikmann]

Guess they didn't know how to say no to this.

[@jemqoos7166]

Tbh the rest of the show wouldn’t make any sense if they left that song out

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@jemqoos7166 They still took out other songs that made it make sense

[@ckind2098]

The general incoherence of this production aside, why on earth would the sermon be on homosexuality (or drug addiction, for that matter)? It's such a bizarre choice when there are a million things you could talk about that actually thematically tie in to the story of Hamilton in some way - ego and infidelity are both relevant story elements that would be insanely easy to work into a sermon

[@kristen7687]

right and like im not even into hamilton and im aware of how important acceptance seems to be to lin manuel and this musical lol. like twisting his work into something hateful seems like the last thing youd wanna do if you didnt get permission and dont wanna be sued?

[@littlemau1360]

Especially because hamilton was heavily rumored to have a male lover lmao

[@ilovepiedoyou2]

I do not support this church but it wasn’t a sermon on homosexuality! The homosexuality part was one sentence from the sermon

[@JnTmarie]

@@ilovepiedoyou2 you don’t rewrite a masterpiece!

[@tracymartel10]

Shows once more that Christian’s cherry pick which things they care about 😂 They found a way to squeeze in homophobia in a show that had nothing to do with homosexuality

[@unfortunate_bambi]

Kind of off topic, but I've seen Phillipa Soo (the original Elizabeth Hamilton actress) in person, she's seriously one of the most talented singers I've ever heard. Her tone is so beautiful, her control and vocal agility are wildly impressive. Uggh she's just so damn talented I love her voice sm

[@serenegenerally]

Oh that’s cool!! Also kak pfp 👀

[@Feimicha]

I’m not the biggest theatre kid, but I always love listening to her voice. Her pure and clear tone always makes me envious : >

[@777letsgoo]

IM SO JEALOUS YOU'RE SO LUCKYYY

[@amandalynn4979]

Saw her in Into The Woods and Camelot! She's a very sweet and talented person 😊

[@eeng17]

You're so lucky to have seen her in person and from what I've seen in the Hamilton movie, she is amazing.

[@DaraJill]

This is just the embodiment of fundamentalist privilege to think the original creators and license holders telling you "Fuck around and find out" is some how authorization to steal other's property. Pretty sure the Bible has a whole lot to say about stealing. Actual theatre companies have had their authorized licenses pulled for making too many changes. I guess none of the lawyers involved wanted the sticky wicket of suing a church, but they really should have done it and stopped the production.

[@Cat_Woods]

Yes. The more churches get away with this, the more entitled they feel to keep doing it. They just count on "no one will sue a church." Time to have more lawsuits against churches.

[@DaraJill]

@@Cat_Woodstheir "religious freedom" ended when they decided to make a profit and upload it. Clearly they want the notoriety and to fundraise off of their "persecution".

[@DarlingMissDarling]

@@DaraJill yep, they'll scream "persecution" from now until the world implodes. All while conveniently leaving out the whole "stealing" part, of course.

[@jinx17]

That's what happens when churches are exempt from so much ie taxes 😒 they think they're untouchable

[@stewieismyhomeboy]

Yeah, ain't that some shit. The Disney lawyers are fine suing daycares and parents of dead children, but when it comes to police officers who use the Punisher logo without authorization or a church that put on a version of Hamilton where they changed some lyrics to be about Jesus, they pause with the lawyers. Hm.

[@morethan1]

The off-beat banging on the table during the Hercules bit 💀💀💀

[@alexwyatt2911]

I’m sure that’s not the only thing he bangs with such lackluster enthusiasm and unsatisfying rhythm.

[@sarah-zv8ld]

@@alexwyatt2911 this roast wasnt even about me and i had to take a breather

[@xporiia]

"Ayyy 😐" 😐✊👊😐✊😐👊

[@jayfeather8023]

@@alexwyatt2911 *W H E E Z E*

[@geministrial950]

@@alexwyatt2911 DAAAMN

[@hsisnothere]

you reviewing awful christian movies is, in a funny way, really helpful to me as a queer person working through religious trauma. of course i’m laughing my ass off during these videos but hearing a non-religious perspective/commentary (especially from a fellow queer person) is beneficial for me. i really appreciate you and your content thanks nick 💜💛🤍🖤

[@Michael-vw7pk]

One of the best bits of commentary on the church from Nick has really stuck with me the past few weeks: "god was telling people to cut each other in half, why would you listen to anything HE says?" YES YES YES thank you Nick 💕

[@hsisnothere]

@@Michael-vw7pk what a great quote

[@emilydeaton1169]

As someone who’s been there, sending love your way! Your are loved and whole as you are. 💜

[@Sarahonwheels]

Sending love and light to you!

[@sholem_bond]

If you're interested, Ex-Fundie Diaries and Fundie Fridays on KZbin (and Hannah Reloaded and Hannah and Jake on Twitch and on KZbin, plus Demon Mama on Twitch and KZbin) all talk about skepticism/atheism or about recovering from growing up in very religious communities.

[@leahmoore6820]

As someone who works in wardrobe, I'm living for your costume disses. Eliza's dress was definitely taken out of a package and nothing happened to it before this girl was forced to wear it. 19:59 I laughed so hard at this comment. They were told to take it all down. Nothing on the internet ever stays gone. This is an insult to the people behind this show. Changing the time period, lyrics, or anything to any copyrighted material is illegal. "What about Shakespeare?!" Shakespeare is public domain. You can do whatever. Once this happened, it was crazy to me how many people defended the church and didn't know that schools pay for rights. "Thou shalt not steal."

[@DarlingMissDarling]

Exactly! "Thou shalt not steal (unless it's for jesus then it's like totally ok because since god made the world he basically owns everything so then it's not really stealing) amen!"

[@DaraJill]

@@DarlingMissDarling you just know that dress was Amazon Cosplay Musical Hamilton DIY Revolutionary Victorian Dress $39.99 special.

[@DarlingMissDarling]

@@DaraJill haha oh no doubt!

[@leahmoore6820]

@@DaraJill Oh definitely.

[@PanicLedisko]

THANK YOU!! They are so blinded by their obsession with Jesus, they are some how oblivious to how hypocritical they are!! They're the same to me as any alt right, any argument you try to have with them they cannot think logically, so when you try to show them facts and speak logically it goes right in one ear and out the other. It's infuriating!! I can't even stand dealing with them!

[@jordy_muhnordy]

When I was 16, I was in a religious production called "Heaven's Gates and Hell's Flames." There was no copyright to worry about, but I wanna talk about it anyway. The play was a series of scenes where we see the last moments of people's lives before they die, and they received their sentence, heaven or hell (I went to Hell btw). I was extremely freaked out the first rehearsal, being dragged to Hell and all, but I felt like hey this is the Lord's work, right? I thought this play was doing something good and transformative, bringing people closer to Christ, but looking back it was straight up fear mongering. Seeing scenes where kids are sent to Hell, parents and kids are separated in the afterlife because a mom wanted to go shopping with her daughter instead of going to church, *TW* seeing a woman unalive after her husband abandons her and end up in hell, it was all really heavy stuff. Gave a whole new meaning to God-fearing. I'm sure plenty of people 'repented' out of genuine fear. I sympathize with these kids who probably felt the same way I did when I was that age, like they were going to inspire people to get saved, but are actually doing the opposite. I hope these kids aren't being mocked by their peers for this, but I also hope the Hamilton team takes legal action and the pastor takes the brunt of the pushback. I'm sure the church can pay up with the taxes they don't have to pay

[@kathyjuola6317]

I had forgotten the title, but I totally remember going to see that play! Yeah, it was pretty intense.

[@melaniedejonge5234]

I saw that play! The only vignette I remember was the father and son who get in a car accident. The father didn’t go to church on sundays because he wanted to watch football. When they were standing before judgement, the father was sobbing and begging for his son to be spared. He was saying, “i’ll take my punishment, but please-my boy has done nothing wrong! He only believed what I told him!” But nope! They both got dragged off to hell. And I was like…damn. God’s kind of a dick.

[@jordy_muhnordy]

@@melaniedejonge5234 apparently there's different skits they pick from, but that one was in the play I was in! So freaking dark, man

[@melaniedejonge5234]

@@jordy_muhnordy RIGHT????

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

I remember some church in our state had something called the House of Fate (or was it House of Faith?) that was something quite similar - the audience would go to different rooms featuring skits of people meeting untimely deaths, then those that died would be sent based on wether they accepted Jesus as their Savior. The audience wasn't sentenced; they were allowed to see the ones that ended up in hell, but that was optional (since of course that could be scary for some). After that, everybody walked to heaven while passing Jesus being nailed to the cross. At least, that's my memory of it. So the one I saw was... better? But probably not free from those basic flaws. Still probably fearmongering, in the way of "you might die in a car crash soon because life is unpredictable, better pray to be saved before it's too late". Ouch.

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

So they claimed they had permission, but actually didn't? Hmm. I seem to remember something about lying being a sin. 🤔

[@giovannirastrelli9821]

The lied, stole, and coveted. Some church.

[@brettmastema7056]

I thought they got that AFTER it was learned about. They let them do their final show with the expressed thing they could not live stream it and had to remove the on line videos. I could be wrong but I heard this was given to them when they had one show left after everyone knew. They still were going to have to pay fines. I honestly haven't confirmed this. I usually do before stating things but ive been smoking pot and im feeling lazy. At least i admit that. 😀

[@giovannirastrelli9821]

@@brettmastema7056 He uses misleading phrasing to imply they had the rights all along.

[@brettmastema7056]

@@giovannirastrelli9821 Well that's unfortunate. Apparently that is what Jesus would have done. Noted.

[@nantae1047]

Because lying and stealing is completely okay if you drive people 🦄 🌈🌠closer to jesus🦄🌈🌠 trough it 😌😌😌

[@HikariHolic]

I have extended family that's from the town this whole scandal happened, and it's wild to see it blow up everywhere. I always knew some random part of the town did plays and broadcast them on tv growing up, but this is wild. I feel bad for the kids a bit because some of them are just really into musical theater in the RGV, and this mess is one of the only outlets.

[@cam4636]

I'm sure, but like, if you're willing to say "yes I'm cool with homophobia" to get a part you're not getting sympathy from me

[@Annie_Annie__]

Yep, I’m from south Texas (though not the Valley) and there just aren’t many venues for the arts for kids at all down here. Especially since *if* a kid’s school has a theater elective, they’re often bullied for it because of the rampant homophobia down here. And often the only way a kid is able to participate in theater of any sort is if they’re a little girl that’s been taking ballet since toddlerhood and get a part in the annual production of the Nutcracker. Other than that your only other option is church plays. (For some reason being in those doesn’t make you “gay” or “evil”, but being in your public school’s theatre class or being a boy in choir makes you “gay” and worthy of bullying. Make it make sense!)

[@alisaurus4224]

RGV = Rio Grande Valley. I’m in Texas too, but Dallas area, so i don’t see that abbreviation much and i had to look it up 😁

[@maryellenparmenter9303]

@@cam4636 those kids might not agree with the pastor's homophobia or even know he would say that. I participated in church dramas and my pastor had terrible views that I didn't agree with. Kids tend to be not in control of what church they attend

[@Annie_Annie__]

@@alisaurus4224 Yeah, “RGV” or just “the Valley” is common shorthand in south Texas for the Rio Grande Valley. It’s known to the rest of the country as “ya know that little tip at the bottom of Texas? That area.”

[@knorkyat]

10:23 I’ve always been very confused and concerned about Hercules Mulligan’s interest in horses too, this should be discussed more by all of us

[@randomrose6398]

I think I read somewhere that the line is SUPPOSED to mean like, the daughters will use the horses to go to a bootycall w/Mulligan??? I still always think he’s dtf a horse though LMAO

[@knorkyat]

That makes sense but it feels like Lin Manuel Miranda really favoured the rhyming scheme over being clear that Mulligan was not a horse-fucker which is a bold choice lol

[@misselizabethplays8070]

Any foal's a goal.

[@knorkyat]

HahahHahahaha

[@knorkyat]

Was stealing horses a bigger deal than fucking them?

[@mandipandi303]

There's nothing more terrifying than a church production of anything.

[@maximumlength5052]

I used to be straight but gay sex ruined me. One of my ‘friends’ introduced me to gay sex and it was pretty cool at first, but I kept on wanting more and more, until eventually I became immune to normal levels of gay sex, I didn’t get the same hit, I needed more. My addiction became so bad I almost died of gay sex overdose and withdrawal at the same time. I’m in gay sex rehab right now, but I still crave the gay sex.

[@thequeenofcringe1585]

Remember when the cast of Hamilton put the entire show on pause to basically tell Mike Pence that he sucks? I want to see them do that with the people who made this rip off. Also, I’m not even a theater kid, and I know the difference between a play and a musical production. The straights are gonna straight, I guess.

[@keshagriffin3375]

Same

[@patty1247]

They didn’t do that. At the end of the show when typically the cast takes a bow and a cast member read a speech advocating for basic human rights that was co-signed by the entire cast. They were incredibly respectful! Fellow theater goers boo-ed at Pence. I just think it’s important not to feed into the right wing narrative that the cast attacked Pence. They didn’t.

[@joemama-zm4de]

@@patty1247 ..... bro its not an attack to say someone sucks LOL

[@thequeenofcringe1585]

@@patty1247 yeah true, but sometimes you have to simplify things for right wing idiots. Hell, you have to simplify things for right wing idiots most of the time.

[@YukiLeiu]

@@joemama-zm4de right? Like they brought up attack op just said tell.

[@mxclaireharris]

Hamilton was a Christian, it was an important part of his identity to him. The idea that they have him rejecting Jesus throughout it would be insulting to him. As someone who has lost a child and Quiet Uptown breaks my heart every time I was so angry they changed it to feel like it's about his conversion and suggest that it's his choices that lost him his son.

[@efolinsky]

And he was bisexual

[@missopenblue89]

He had strayed away from the religion for awhile plus he had his affair and he wasn't going out preaching to people about his beliefs either

[@mxclaireharris]

@@missopenblue89 lots of people have affairs, it doesn't mean they strayed from their faith. I've yet to find that he rejected his faith and someone used his son's death to bring him back to his faith. From what I can see he was the only one who held his faith and criticised others for losing it.

[@stewieismyhomeboy]

Yes, but then they'd have to recognize that "accepting Jesus" doesn't magically make you stop sinning.

[@dragongirl7978]

Lol wow, was he? I can never keep track of which founding fathers were deists and which were Christian. That makes this so much worse. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I feel like there's a good dozen musicals out there that would make more sense to plagiarize into an anti-gay thing. I mean Dear Evan Hansen already feels like it's a story about how being a closeted gay is miserable even though that's not what it's even remotely about, seems like that would be pretty easy to turn into homophobic propaganda. Or Fiddler on the Roof, with its built-in storyline of a father struggling with his childrens' love lives, seems like altering it so the love lives get progressively more gay would work great if you wanted to do some homophobic plagiarism. Can't believe I'm brainstorming this topic right now.

[@jessnather2700]

i think a church production of Fiddler on the Roof would be a very, very bad idea

[@DisabledDragon]

@@jessnather2700 Honestly, with the way some Christians treat Jews and Judaism, I can totally imagine that happening. Complete with literal come-to-Jesus moment. Can't even Pinterest a holiday without being told how it was actually about Jesus.

[@gasterthemaster6490]

Imagine LSOH with this premise. Suddenly Seymour would be completely removed, and he gets eaten because he LoVeD tHe WrOnG pEoPlE.

[@amirahclark4989]

The differences in the singing and harmonies has me weak 😭😭😭”at least one orphanage needs to stay private” LMAO

[@BeeBod]

Hearing the side by side of "the orphanage" part made me sob, I had to pause and walk away

[@CH-xq6if]

It's insane, and she did so much non faith orientated good they could of talked about without making it sound like she was an orphan murderer

[@emmadaniels7631]

Imagine going to see this thinking it was the real Hamilton

[@11MissingPhoenix]

I wouldve walked out 💀

[@eeng17]

Ohhh danggggg

[@arubinojr5670]

Why yes, I WAS terrified on seeing the title this was going to be the Jenny Nicholson Church, drunk on their success. I'm glad I was reassured within 4 words.

[@DecoraGarfoid]

I thought so too!

[@NyxesRealms]

I adore Hamilton and am a gay so this dollar store sale production nearly killed me but you made it tolerable, Nick, thanks.

[@nerdoftheatre]

My favorite part was when the church was saying, "No, we got licensing." Like? Did they think the Hamilton team was too busy with the Broadway and touring shows to notice that this was going on? Also love how they claimed they got permission, yet there is not one single copyright blurb on any of the promotional material/program. When we do shows, there is like a paragraph of text somewhere on the posters saying who we licensed the show through.

[@Em-bq3gs]

When I was twelve years old, I rewrote the entire Hamilton soundtrack, including Laurens Interlude and Congratulations, and made it about Undertale characters. How was that mess better written than this??

[@gasterthemaster6490]

That sounds funny. Do you still have it saved somewhere?

[@Em-bq3gs]

@@gasterthemaster6490 No, I unfortunately erased all copies of it because it made me cringe too hard

[@gasterthemaster6490]

@@Em-bq3gs I can just imagine: Alexander Sansilton.

[@Em-bq3gs]

​@@icedqq​Mettaton was the one who played Thomas Jefferson "What'd I Miss?" and Asriel was Phillip. Burn was about Toriel leaving Asgore. I'm sorry that's all I can remember at the moment.

[@bartho5212]

I do not know what I love more, the smooth transition to the sponsor or Nick pretending to cook in an empty pan 🤣. The dedication, keepin it 💯

[@D-AMJ-C]

I wanna see him pretending to bathe in an empty tub next! 😂 I love the funny!

[@m0ssy_mushrooms217]

‘Hamilton is the gayest thing son Disney+” The Owl House: am I a joke to you?

[@AGLoverAlways]

My old church did a parody of “Alexander Hamilton” and made it about how thankful they were for their volunteers. No joke, I used to go once in a while but THAT was the final nail in the coffin

[@Cheyenne_Playz]

As a Bisexual Christian Catholic, this gave me so much embarrassment 😭 This is why we get called clowns by Atheists from time to time and I just wanna barf- Those "actors" they chose sound worse than all the choirs I heard from different churches (said choir singers are actually really good). Do they not realize they based their "play" off of a musical about the life of a Founding Father who WAS GAY for John Laurence?? (Is that how you spell his name I can't remember it's been so long 😭) Growing up with religious people and see how they misinterpret the Bible is baffling. I continue to spread Christianity without forcing it down on people's throats, and slay the day because ahm gay. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna rewatch Hamilton ✌️

[@kailyns8159]

If the original creators/rights holders give you permission to perform an alternate version of their show, I see no problem with adapting/changing some lyrics and/or scenes as long as the core of the show remains the same. When I was a kid there was a Christian version of Grease, for example, that only took out the sex references in “Greased Lightning” and changed the pregnancy storyline for Rizzo to an abusive bf scenario instead (not Kenickie). At the end Sandy did appear in her biker-girl costume but Danny takes the leather jacket off her and asks a girl standing by for her Sandy-esque sweater, which he puts on her shoulders as he tells Sandy she doesn’t need to change for him but he appreciates the fact that she was willing to do so. Rizzo leaves her abusive bf and ends up with Kenickie, the guy who was her shoulder for the whole play. Both couples do kiss at the end (though it’s a Disney stage kiss where they just hug and turn their heads so it looks like they are kissing) but the only mention of religion in the show is during “Look at Me, I’m Sandra Dee” when Rizzo talks about how Sandy is a P.K. and doesn’t know anything about the real world and it makes her sick. That is how you respectfully alter a Broadway show to push your own agenda. What this church did with Hamilton was disrespectful, illegal, and disgraceful. They need to be sued and perhaps barred from staging other such recreations.

[@gideongivesharrowboners]

that sounds WAY better than the original Grease tbh

[@kailyns8159]

@@gideongivesharrowboners I’m not surprised. A lot of people, myself included, hate how Sandy drastically changes herself for Danny. If she changed for herself it’d be different. But she does it for him and to fit in with his crowd. I especially despise how “You’re the One That I Want” from the movie basically is a billboard telling Danny that Sandy is willing to have sex with him now. How do you go from running away from a guy because he tried to grope you to telling that same guy “if you’re filled with affection you’re too shy to convey, meditate in my direction, feel your way” in ONE DAY? That’s not healthy. Even the original song from the Broadway show- “All Choked Up”- is all about how horny Danny is and how Sandy is willing to help him out. Sandy has no identity in this show. She starts out the perfect daughter falling for a guy she thinks is the perfect son. When she finds out he is a rebel and has a lot more experience than he let on, she feels betrayed but still likes him. This is okay. What destroys the Sandy character for me is when she abandons the perfect daughter persona to be the perfect biker-girl persona instead. People like to argue that Danny changes for her too. But he doesn’t. He still has all the same opinions and morals at the beginning of the show as he does at the end. Sandy does not.

[@gideongivesharrowboners]

@@kailyns8159 you are absolutely right. danny changes nothing about himself, and sandy just wipes away what few character traits she had (charater traits like, um. well. she's got... yeah never mind) in order to be a biker girl. it sends a really mixed message to any viewer.

[@molly_parker_1847]

@@kailyns8159otally, and since Grease is such a popular broadway show and movie nobody wants to admit how totally problematic it is including the 2nd Grease. Just because the guy is changing himself for a women this time doesn’t mean it’s any less problematic. I love these movies as much as the next person but you can like it and still understand how bad it is.

[@kailyns8159]

@@molly_parker_1847 Grease 2 is so much worse than Grease. And I don’t mean it’s a terrible movie (which it IS), but that compared to Grease the teen issues are way more problematic. Stephanie and Johnny: she broke up with him and he acts like she isn’t allowed to date anyone else. He literally drives her new love interest off a cliff! Paulette and Johnny: toxic as hell; he treats her like he owns her, telling her what to wear, where she can and can’t go. He continues to harass Stephanie while pursuing Paulette. Naturally this upsets her and he doesn’t even care. Louis and Sharon: there is nothing funny about tricking a girl into sleeping with you by scaring her; she made it clear she wasn’t ready and he kept pushing. “Reproduction”: OMG what a huge misfire. Not comedic at all. Blaming a girl for the fact that you (the boys) can’t control yourselves. She’s wearing the clothes that are available to her, and that included those awful triangle boob bras that gave girls that pin-up model figure. Claiming that when a girl straightens her sweater it’s a signal that she’s ready to undress. Gah! Stephanie and Michael: She’s awful to Michael when they first meet; and he knows this. So when he doesn’t tell her who he is when he’s dressed as the mysterious biker boy of her fantasy that’s really bad. He’s saying “you treat me different now and I like my chances so I’m going to stay quiet.” Essentially he is tricking her into sex by letting her believe he is someone else. “Score Tonight”: TRASH It hurts me so much that Judy Garland’s youngest daughter Lorna is associated with this train wreck. She portrayed Paulette. It ruined her chances for a career. She never got another job. And between her and her sister Liza, Lorna is the one with the real “Judy” pipes.

[@gigitastic90]

I'm sure someone has already mentioned it but if they haven't Jenny Nicholson covered a Canadian church called Church of the Rock that does these elaborate easter plays that are often just popular movies worked to be about the crucifixion with popular songs in them. Because nothing says Easter like seeing Simba get crucified and having someone sing Adele.

[@asmrsona3170]

Back-to-back Nick DiRamio episodes are much more effective in convincing me to believe in a god than any of this right-wing Christian drivel. Thank you for making this shit into sugar.

[@WillScarlet16]

Seriously, everyone STOP going after those kids - they’re really no better or worse than most high school performers, some actually have decent voices. Save the anger for the director and the other people who chose to alter the show’s lyrics and message. It’s bad enough these kids are forced to be part of this scandal, don’t go insulting and shaming them and messing up their lives further.

[@plutonium2]

Are we gonna ruin their potential and they are good kids? GAVEL GAVEL GAVEL Bunch of apologist nonsense.

[@samuelblachon95130]

They''re 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️

[@sniggy412]

for sure. at that age, a role is a role and for a lot of them their parents were likely more approving of their participation of a church musical than a secular one. experience is experience for those kids its the adults that should have known better

[@brettmastema7056]

Can i at least make fun of King George? He was like eating or chewing gum while he forgot most of the song. I probably shouldn't because he might find where i live and eat me.

[@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man]

Hey friend, teenager here. Gonna continue making fun of them

[@hollyb6885]

As a huge fan of Hamilton, this church makes me sick. Why do they think it’s okay to, not only perform the play without permission, but to change the lyrics!!!?? I hope they get the pants sued off of them.

[@Alexissleepy97]

2 videos in 24 hours? We are blessed. Truly iconic. I needed some light and scathing funny commentary to give me relief from the hell that is my body 🥰

[@cacee4866]

Fell to my knees laughing from shock when it cut to the church version at 9:48. 😭

[@lilren2021]

The crazy thing is that in their church, unmarried women and men can’t touch so the people playing Hamilton and Eliza are married. But the girl who plays Eliza also plays the Reynolds’s woman. It’s insane

[@lindsay5180]

the changed bits are especially weird to me because there's already a strong undercurrent of religiosity in Hamilton, you don't have to change it. George Washington quotes scripture, the whole song It's Quiet Uptown has both strong religious undertones and overt religious references (I take the children to church on Sunday/The sign of the cross at the door/And I pray/That never used to happen before) and the play ends with the implication that both Alexander and Eliza went to heaven. You don't really have to change anything, but I guess they really wanted to do an alter call in there. At least the plays Jenny Nicholson highlighted were changed enough they likely count as fair use/parody (except where they lift whole pop songs with no change) but this is just... Hamilton with a few clunky line changes and an alter call.

[@FaeQueenCory]

"A church in Texas did Hamilton" wut 🤔🤔🤔🤔 "They changed the songs to include bigotry" Oh.... That makes more sense.

[@gingergoddess8953]

Id bet anything Eliza is the pastor's daughter. She wouldnt have cut it for my high school's no-cut chorale

[@LPOW84]

I literally cackled when you mentioned zoom interview with a vampire. Thanks for making my weekend lunch breaks entertaining. 💜❤️

[@421541Michee]

Believe more than ever that churches should be taxed

[@maem7462]

The fact that the church thought they could convert Hamilton fans to being religious and no longer being gay is really funny to me

[@lightbluechucks]

I think the kid who plays Aaron Burr can kinda sing. He sounded good on Wait For It. Someone please save him from wasting his talents in this hateful church!

[@moonbeam0099]

I honestly can't wait until society progresses past all this nonsensical hate and fairytale bs. Keep up the good work, Nick! You're awesome!

[@supermomma634]

I would watch a 2 hour video of you reacting to the entire musical in a heartbeat

[@h0rriphic]

This is just such a weird idea in the first place. Who asked for a knock-off Hamilton? Exactly no one that matters. That's who.

[@maisymariee]

And this is why I gave up religion years ago

[@hsisnothere]

sometimes i almost feel like the proper term is escaped… glad you’re out of that situation, i feel you there

[@trashcantaloupe5402]

The funny thing is, many historians believe that the real Hamilton was bisexual, due to the nature of his letters to John Laurence

[@Luminous_Star_17]

Hamilton was literally my favorite musical. When I saw it the morning of when it was added to Disney Plus I finally understood why people enjoyed it so much. I watched this Scamilton production out of curiosity and got it was just bad. These poor kids clearly had no singing coach and the changes made to the musical was really unbearable. I was cringing the whole time watching it. But that damn Homophobic sermon at the end of the musical really pissed me off. I’m a closet pan romantic 20 year old woman who has already dealt with homophobia within the church I used to attend, I was told it was wrong to be Gay, Lesbian, Transgender etc. I was told people who are in the LGBTQ+ community were sinners and that they deserved to burn in hell. So you can imagine why I haven’t come out as PanRomantic yet. I’m honestly terrified to come out to my family. I’ve wanted to attend my local Pride parades but I never did due to that fear of being shunned by my family. Being apart of the Hamilton fandom has helped me through some of that fear and the people I’ve met through our shared love of this musical are wonderful and they accept me for who I am. I honestly home that this church gets into some trouble for lying about having the rights to preform Hamilton let alone change the lyrics and add and change scenes to fit their narrative.

[@doefarris2189]

Imagine making a two and a half hour Hamilton knockoff to dunk on the gays, but ONLY in the opening and ending sermon and not even giving us a HamiltonxBurr hate-makeout scene, I've never been more offended, what a Scamilton indeed.

[@rockybeegaming]

The 🎵😩'tHe OrPhAnAgE' 😩🎵 made me laugh so much 😭😭😭

[@vivifoxysdaughterandchild544]

Never thought that Homophobic Hamilton would ever exist but here we are

[@idong4329]

The worlɗ missed the chance To call this whole debacle "Shamilton"

[@rachelheney8471]

Many people would think the one part of the musical they would leave alone would be the part about the orphanage, because it is charitable. However, they believe in the prosperity gospel. That means they think that if you are poor it is a character flaw and charity just prolonged the sin that caused the poverty. They don’t actually support things like orphanages unless they can also say they made Christians of all the children. They are all about making sure children are born into poverty (rather than being aborted) then making sure they stay in poverty.

[@sophieje6039]

0:39 I will agree with you, Hamilton is pretty gay and we love it. BUT, the Owl House. That's like, the gayest thing on Disney+ The main character is bi, her mentor is bi her rival/lover is a lesbian, that rival/lover's mentor is aromantic (and possibly asexual but that was never confirmed). There's a nonbinary character in the show! All in canon, it's beautiful! Anyway I'm gonna keep watching now.

[@-_-0.0-_-]

the compare/contrast at 9:50 with the table hitting and beat boxing was so stark. I don't love the original Hamilton (I love more avenue Q style musicals) but I still love the musicality, rhythm and power behind the voices and movements in the og musical. To see a bunch of hesitant performers attempting it with zero permission while changing it to make it more """"holy""""" is very cringey.

[@aubreesummers5593]

My best friend was Christine in a Jesus "enhanced" version of "Phantom of the Opera" 😂😂😂😂 thats kind of what this reminded me of

[@ZoeAlleyne]

"It's a zoom interview this time" gave me the ugliest laugh

[@CollinGerberding]

Why yes, I have watched Jenny Nicholson's vid on the easter musicals many times. I did think of that when I started watching the video. If this is a new commentary trend, I'm in. I generally enjoy the youness of the video as much as I do the topic, so most everything works regardless.

[@Resilient_Sage88]

I recently heard Hamilton might have had an affair with Lafayette. The irony is delicious in that case.

[@angelawossname]

Well he definitely had a relationship with John Lawrence. There are letters that prove it. Hamilton was agnostic at best, and grew up in an area where gay people were sent to as punishment, so he grew up around openly gay people. John Lawrence carried around a lot more guilt about his homosexuality, and suggested Hamilton get married in order to end their relationship.

[@11MissingPhoenix]

@@angelawossname Laurens*

[@angelawossname]

@@11MissingPhoenix Yep, you are right. I don't always notice what my bloody auto correct is doing, apologies.

[@TheNicolocomd]

Scamilton was really funny to watch, but also please look for their version of Greatest Showman, titled Greatest Conman. The irony is so massive it's dangerously close to bending light.

[@birb5306]

Omg

[@abrielrotzler6009]

Ok, so my entire job is doing tech for shows, mainly musicals... WHY ARE THEIR MIC PACKS JUST IN THEIR BACK POCKETS??? AND WHY ARE THEIR ANTENNAS SO BENT WITHOUT BEING TAPED BACK UP??? THOSE MIC PACKS AREN'T EVEN CLIPPED ON THOSE POCKETS!!!!! Thank you, continue?

[@abrielrotzler6009]

Also, the huge dark spots in the lighting... Bother me, let's say.

[@ginarosemontarano2784]

I would love to watch the whole church rip-off version. Loving that they think that they can just replace words and lines in the painstakingly written and well thought out songs of Hamilton and nobody would have a problem with it. Also how did they get around the whole affair thing? Because that seems like it would be a huge issue for a church to show

[@travistoronjo7452]

Went ahead with the thumb-up, partly because you’re an amazing content creator, but mostly because I’m deeply curious as to how many unauthorized rip-offs of hit musicals are out there for you to breakdown

[@kandykate163]

I hope that the actors that ACTUALLY wanted to do acting in theatres don't get a bad reputation because of that live copyright infringement

[@Feverm00n]

4:11 that whole bit is ICONIC lol “the way I’m about to correct you is the closest thing to a hate crime that my people are capable of committing against you,” just, the absolute best. Followed closely by “go eat someone’s pussy about it” lmao. This video had such good humor it made my day. Nick might be the only KZbinr I would rip myself from my depression hidey-hole to go see live (if one ever happened/once the plague is over) bc his humor is so freakin smart and on point. Also, that church’s rendition of this DESERVES to be called a play. That back to back comparison of the orphanage song was ROUGH. So, so …flat. There’s not much musicality goin on.

[@TriforceOfWisdom86]

Omg I’ve been binging your videos for hours, they always make me smile. Thank you for all that you do!!!

[@Silvermoon424]

Just wanted to let you know I became a Patron yesterday! So excited to help support content like this ❤

[@noir_wolfe1099]

"If you are struggling with homosexuality-" I don't struggle with homosexuality actually, I'm quite good at it. Thank you. (Also this is really funny bc Alexander Hamilton, one of the main goddamn guys, was historically either bisexual or the fruitiest mf ever.)

[@motherofthetans]

They really, truly thought they did something here 🤣

[@thatweirdchickbecky4730]

It seems like churches have to take anything that's really popular and push god into it.. Like calm down, not everything ever has to be about god or Jesus. Smh

[@rainestar6781]

The Church heard "And when my prayers to God were met with indifference/I picked up a pen, I wrote my own deliverance!" And decided to take it personally.

[@fennec_studios]

I am a Christan and just happen to be a very strong straight ally! I love your content and this certain one kinda hit me.. church's can be so strong that they hurt their members.. and this "play" they did is the most hurtful thing ever. My family is all christan and I've helped all of them realize we are all people whether or not it's sin. I for one dont believe it's full sin; but I wont go into that. The church had no right to take this 1 and 2 to make it "you struggle with homosexuality" IS JUST WRONG! I hate it so much! It makes my spine quake!

[@ayakacrane8569]

Having volunteered in community theatres as a stage manager, i can't imagine how the production got greenlit. Major fail on the production manager, director and producers to name a few.

[@RaisonLychi]

It is a play. It's a play on a Broadway musical. Call it what it is. What it deserves.

[@bzuku9554]

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[@Travelling_with_my_dog]

you will be happy to know (well, you probably already heard): "The church is agreeing to pay damages, which the production says will be donated to local LGBTQ causes"

[@grandpaix3992]

i love that the closed captions for the clip breakdown intro reads as 'fluctuating tempo electronic music'. it makes me think of a DJ with mood swings.

[@jinx17]

Nick on the phone with the "pharmacist" 😂 "fuck it I'm going off my meds" lmao

[@omgitsjackieeful]

Finally a church is being reprimanded for SOMETHING!

[@direcircumstances]

Referring to Waiting for Godot as "Two boring idiots who don't realize they could be having sex to pass the time," is exactly the kind of humor I come to Nick DiRamio for.

[@Agent_MrKrabs]

I wonder if the church knew that some of the characters they dressed as were gay… Why Hamilton out of all musicals? That’s still confusing 😭

[@Leafpool2]

I'm not struggling with homosexuality I'm winning at homosexuality. Big difference.

[@LoVnPeAcE4EvEr]

Ugh I love Nick so much. Doing the actual Lords work on this channel lol

[@laurmichelle9560]

Relatable anecdote: a youth theatre company/program I was involved with years ago once put on an illegal production because the show they wanted to do was relatively new so the rights weren’t being granted to anyone yet. Somehow the script had been leaked or it was available even if not for actual performance use, so the director took the script and simply changed the title so it could be advertised without garnering suspicion but basically everyone who was a part of this show (I wasn’t, but I knew plenty of people who were) and went to see it were aware of what they were doing. It was one of the strangest and most surreal theatre experiences ever because I have no idea how they managed to achieve this and I still think about it 7 years later 😅

[@Lucia-ni4oz]

I don’t wanna see a musical and not be 25% gayer, that’s the only reason watch musicals, to be a little bit more gay

[@claudiagomes1104]

Your roasts are so fast and frequent that I don’t have time to stop laughing from the previous one before I’m laughing from the next

[@bernardschmitt6389]

Why does the Church version of Alexander Hamilton look like a discount Italian dude?

[@Skrunklyscribbles]

The funny thing is Alexander Hamilton was bisexual.

[@whitlockshark4717]

The sad thing is that depending on how much they transformed the original play they may get away with it under fair use if it was changed enough to be considered parody.

[@rgs8970]

I can't wait for Jenny Nicholson to chime in!

[@agathaohoshley5630]

Immediately no. Immediately NO. Leave Hamilton alone WTF🙄

[@maximumdinosaur]

I've heard so much about this: I cannot believe this is real

[@mysticloverfairy1]

I’ve been reading comments about this story on other videos of people saying “Oh it’s fine because a church did it” and I’m like “No, they don’t have permission to do this , church or not.”

[@datadoggieein]

I'm pansexual, and I still refer to musical theatre as plays. In part because the term "musical" by itself does not conveys the medium, only part of the genre. A musical can be a play, film, or television show. A play is a play. Still good video.