This Dark vs Clem finals is an ABSOLUTE BANGER. StarCraft 2

[@motan7864]

damn that operation Overlord joke was on point

[@KingOfNebbishes]

That main was a tough beach

[@dhabu9017]

Even by Winter's high usual standards, that was exceptional; I lolled :D

[@motan7864]

Thank you DarkTV, for this awesome cast!

[@verihimthered2418]

Its maxpax TV hehe

[@AlmostJordan]

Is no one gunna talk about the shirt?

[@user-ow2ln3pw7d]

11:34 - 11:44 ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT commentary ;) fits perfectly !

[@kowalityjesus]

11:40 "Operation Overlord" You're a class act Winter. Truly.

[@MadArtillery]

Dark is always at his best when he's using all the things. He's burrowing, nidus, dropping, just the whole zerg kitchen sink at once keeping everything off balance.

[@nmgaro2156]

I think thats the real power of the zerg, to be able to change unit compositions really fast, and the multiple options to be all over the map at the same time

[@RubysWrath]

And still losing

[@tonysiouxfan]

​@RubysWrath What do you expect, just build widowmine and you're fine.

[@RubysWrath]

@@tonysiouxfan I expect serral. Sadly I can only find him on his games 😭

[@NovusGM]

Dark in game 1 is the best zerg I have ever seen and I watched a LOT of SC2 pro games. On a related note, the sound of kaiser blades on terran buildings is music to my ears ❤ Go Dark, for the horde! I mean... for the swarm! 😂

[@jennybender2643]

The most entertaining SC2 player, the fastest Terran player and the best dressed caster in the world combined in one video. Guaranteed and certified banger!

[@daetrikmusic]

15:51 The ravager getting killed by the liberator then rag dolled a mile away like a toy by the ultra LMAO

[@yugonostalgia8961]

That 9 minute fight was so good on all the players... Clem perfectly setup his bases to hold a counterattack while maximizing his marine tank army at the front. Dark looks like he's going to crumble until he strikes at the perfect timing with vipers to wipe out the attack. so even

[@kylere6288]

Honestly that “operation Overlord” joke was masterful commentary 👏👏

[@s9mp9e]

1:12:15 "Some brutal stuff going on..." says Winter. _As horrendous secret squirrel genetic experiments are being executed_ "...it's a beautiful map." 👁👄👁

[@hugosantos7180]

Operation overlord is one of the best puns, thx dark 😂

[@josuepereira9782]

Darks matches are so entertaining I sometimes feel he plays purey to amuse people and winning is an afterthought.

[@nfineon]

"We'll call it OPERATION OVERLORD"... ;)

[@michaeldoucet-morokael]

"LOOK AT IT. Thank you." Neverending fun

[@OneAngrehCat]

I appreciate how Most Professional your shirt is for presenting this Most Professional match.

[@Scynn]

dark is just doing what he does best. using terran units and strategies. that last game was hilarious.

[@RubysWrath]

And losing

[@Scynn]

@@RubysWrath spoilers.

[@RubysWrath]

@@Scynn It's not even a spoiler at this point everyone knows zerg is gonna lose if it's not serral in these high level matches.

[@trembledore1687]

@@RubysWrathdidn’t Winter mention Dark winning a nice part of his pro games?

[@waytooaverage]

11:37 Wow.. just Wow. Well done, sir.

[@churchobama2781]

43:00 that’s the best movie idea I’ve heard in a minute

[@GrippeeTV]

God Clem’s marine control is just so on point seemingly all the time

[@d4niel457]

I feel like up until a few months ago I always had at least five new games to watch a day. Now it's only either Wardi or Winter putting out a series and then every other Starcraft Caster doing it.

[@shaunlan5193]

i love your casts! your commentary is always hilarious and entertaining and your in game insights are so on point.

[@Jasonsoloka2024]

Game 2 was one of the best I have seen in a long time. Thanks WinterStarcraft

[@Ivanova2718]

Honestly I kinda expect Dark to be the one that would burrow 4 banes in a mineral line, two on each side, detonate one pair, then right as the scan hits the others, detonate them too

[@callum.dokkodo]

If i were dark in that game 4 I'd need to go to therapy after what Clem put him through. As a zerg player it actually hurts to see a game go like that.

[@callum.dokkodo]

Dark legit just throwing that last game. Must've been tired or something. What a rollercoaster.

[@viktorvh5511]

Oh my, yet another amazing game featuring Dark! I'm really happy he plays so much, is he going to world finals?

[@RubysWrath]

Another amazing loss

[@Thundermikeee]

I wanna see Dark's spreadsheet where he plans how to get a few minutes of sleep between tournament matches each day

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Wow, been a while since I saw one of _those_ Dark games lol Still amazingly entertaining to watch. Clem just sort of of sitting halfway across the map, staring, not really sure if he can attack in, because of how weird that game was lol.

[@KitsuShadow190]

"Its called, Friendly Fire" got a like from me!

[@uzairasif4684]

Still waiting for a toss to show up in a major finals 😂

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

One day, one year. One life time. It will happen

[@GrippeeTV]

We really need more players. So many of them aren’t playing rn. We need Zest, PartinG etc back 😭

[@IUse2haveALife]

@@GrippeeTVno reason to. Toss sucks so hard vs T right now

[@GrippeeTV]

@@IUse2haveALife not arguing that Protoss doesn’t have glaring issues, I’m just saying that when there’s only HerO, MaxPax and maybe Creator, compared to like 5-8 top tier players for the other races because a lot of the great Protoss’s have gone to military service or whatever that the numbers are skewed a bit

[@ryanjuguilon213]

@@GrippeeTV As if they were winning two years ago. Thee is a reason Hero was the first protoss GSL champion in 5 years one year AGO!

[@AnActualEmerald]

If Cure is the people's Terran, then Dark is the Zerg's Zerg

[@vox5505]

Watch game 3 and -without slobbering on your keyboard- try to make an argument that Banelings needed their health nerfed (???) but Widow Mines somehow needed a buff.

[@chatdaddychasechatdaddycha2271]

As an unbiased sc2 enjoyer, I think they need to buff widowmines even more.

[@artemisspawnofzeus7732]

​@AntiDoctor-cx2jd The issue is that zergs production method is op as all hell so they only get shitty units to compensate for it. All zerg units are bad. Zerg isnt cost effective. They're just the preferred race of every dominant player in sc2s history.

[@redwings13400]

I haven’t followed sc2 particularly closely recently, but from my perspective, it seems like Zerg are doing fine against everyone other than Clem. So by that logic, the nerfs couldn’t have been too bad. I was expecting a lot more drop off than I’ve seen.

[@ivanpetrov5132]

BRENDA!!! sometimes i just watch to listen to your comments man :) best wishes and great job

[@SnailBot]

I hope of these day dark will win with his wacky build in game 5. Proxy hatach, queen drop, mass muta. I like he grow tries and just F it I'm gonna drop queen.

[@christopherpumphrey7023]

Dark Vs Clem and Gumi Vs Cure have been my favorites this season!

[@Ijustworkthere]

Hey! I saw a mass ultralisk thumbnail! You can't make me forget it even if you change it for the metrics!

[@lastleft5809]

Nice shirt Winter🎉

[@lastleft5809]

They look like pink Wobbuffets

[@Kenb3d1]

That game 3, wow.

[@SoulWhite]

Oh, here we go again! It's Friday and Winter just dropped my daily addiction. Just like that, my day got just a little bit better. Thank you Winter.

[@nickwantsome9105]

@winterstarcaft nice t-shirt

[@SoulWhite]

Oh, classy shirt! I'm loving it!

[@Atavisten]

Even when rooting for Dark, he scares me.

[@Matthew-uf1oh]

thats a real zesty shirt winter

[@Gengsta88]

idk why more people doesnt rebuild banshies. they are an Op late game unit

[@rvgr12]

Damn good Starcraft

[@berengerchristy6256]

Is dark ever going to do his military service lol

[@overkel]

Great match!

[@kickvisser7836]

Dronelyfans got me of guard LOL thanks @winter

[@pdpyoshi]

Winter you are the real MVP.

[@victorholmlund6480]

Emotional support zergling lmao

[@News2020-b4u]

Great first game..!!

[@snakespreader]

It's so frustrating seeing clem fail time and time again to put like TWO missile turrets in the base to spot burros and overlords. Goddamn dude it cost so much more to react late every time

[@michaelhellwig421]

Biles OP period! What is Clem waiting to build ravens?

[@streamfun9228]

Winter = MVP

[@another505]

why dont terran pros get a raven to spot these burrowed units, also great support with anti armor missile

[@makimoto4212]

Bring popcorn

[@Terzarito]

Love the videos Winter! How come the allmighty Serral's been gone (at least in your commentaries)?

[@aidangumby]

Epic!

[@jeronimosuarez7957]

@winterstarcraft is that a creep t-shirt!?!?

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@JohanZahri]

Why didn't clem clean up his base from those pesky scouts in the first game? I think that cost him tactical advantages.

[@zetekfr]

gg Clem

[@Sianthris]

After the recent Dark's loses, i am so overjoyed to see him in game 1. Such a great performance! Love what he is doing with the burrow and droperlords/nydus. I am hoping he perfects the craft, starts actually spreading the zerglings and banelings for that use 4 scans or lose the main to unburrowing zerglings. Such a terror style zerg: they are in the walls! :D

[@TheChubbzilla]

i thought i just watched this

[@slevinlaine]

Shiiiiiet lets gooo!!

[@Swiftrootsdadudu]

Nice shirt

[@Seth-qv9tu]

🤘

[@wolfgangroddewig]

Is it really tha bad for Terran to build a raven vs zerg?

[@cavemantero]

Clem won the series against Dark without building a Raven so apparently there's a reason for it. Probably because its one less medivac which is a better unit overall for his play style despite not being a detector and because he plans on making enough orbitals for scans which are better. Raven just dies so easy as well. Its not near as good as the BW Science Vessel and isn't support other than detection so its a liability.

[@123MMAADD123]

OMG the mines in game 2 triggered me so bad... I hate watching this type of Terran..

[@craigsafford9737]

@winterstarcraft i pressed the like button 2000 times does that count?

[@TikkaQrow]

uthermal been doing overlord drops with lings liek all month out of pure terran habits, and seriously winning with them i wonder if dark been watching and copying? seems everyone doing the ling drops all over now compared to a a few weeks ago

[@TowerSavant]

You aren't playing StarCraft if you aren't playing against Dark. I mean that's what I learned this year what about you guys?

[@amandahart2564]

Winter, why do you change the title of your video so often after uploading it? Love the content either way, just curious!

[@xxlin88xx]

Nice match

[@CorruptorPeste]

damn

[@theculturedgentleman3699]

Dark is so Chaotic! I think he embodies what it means to be a Zerg more than any other SC2 player. And i say that having Serral as my favorite. He kind of reminds me of Deidara from Naruto.

[@cmtgatox]

Why a teran not make raven not? teran lost many for not have scan.

[@jennifer_dreamzzz]

Darrrrrrrk 💜

[@ezlyfe1069]

widow mines were the nail in the coffin for this game losing its player base

[@austriandota]

my dronelyfans xDD

[@beagest6539]

Darkcraft2

[@BoomstarPrime]

The widow mine has to be the most broken unit in an rts ever

[@Jared-ck9vw]

i was like 414

[@Strange_Boyyy]

Widow mines are disgustingly OP and Clem is exploiting it so much 43 mines?!! Not worth playing the game if this remains unaddressed.

[@cavemantero]

dark rolls in banelings insta nuking minimum 1/5 economy...complains about widow mines...

[@StarvingShartist]

Don't ever let anyone talk you out of wearing that shirt. Scared money don't make money.

[@ryken7797]

Whats with the shirt? washing day?

[@amplifiedsilence9396]

Remind me to never play DARK. Although I have not played in years and at max gold league. Still. No thanks. Lmfao 🤣

[@fablesenpai8609]

[@ironmonkey1512]

Im here for the widow mine micro

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

Get OFF MY CReEEeP

[@aabrightlove]

Infestors being so pathetic honestly makes me sad

[@Likes_to_learn]

39:30 reference I could see winter starting a free 0nlyf@ns and its just pictures of the zergling plushy with just gibberish

[@incantation420]

please never wear that shirt again

[@Lazy_Dog1997]

275

[@RubysWrath]

Zerg that isnt serral losing? What a shock. Pass.

[@ziliestarrive]

bruh, dark is literally like the second best in the world right now or something

[@RubysWrath]

@@ziliestarrive Can you even tell me how that matters when literally every game we see him play high level ends up being a loss? Ive watched so many games and literally he wins 2 out of 10 times vs terran or protos top players.

[@GrippeeTV]

Acting as if Dark didn’t totally throw game 5 lol. He would’ve been dead in less than 10 minutes if Clem realized how hard Dark threw the match

[@RubysWrath]

@@GrippeeTV There are no prizes for being a fancy loser. Only winners and losers. You don't get props for doing a backflip jumping off the edge of a building. No matter how much I love zerg I can't stand watching them lose so much on anyone not serral.

[@GrippeeTV]

@@RubysWrath then maybe you need to reevaluate your opinion on players of the race. Is Serral good? Yeah, he’s the best. But he’s the best because he’s BORING. He plays the race exactly to the T the way it was designed to be played and very rarely takes any risks or tries something against the meta. His APM, his overall knowledge of the game isn’t 30%+ win rate above Dark. Dark and a lot of other Zergs just do stupid, stupid shit on the regular. Dark, Solar, Rogue etc easily have the skill to compete on the same level as Serral but it’s their own decision making that make them lose on the regular. Serral isn’t a God who is infinitely better at the game than all of the other top tier Zergs, the only real difference between them is how they choose to play. If Dark stopped all of his batshit shenanigans tomorrow and chose instead to play boring matches without trying any of his usual tricks and cheese I guarantee his win rate would skyrocket.

[@cavemantero]

dark played better....rolls in banelings...

[@RaccManiacc]

Can't understand why Winter gets so mad about widow mines but is completly okay with banelings :v

[@user-ow2ln3pw7d]

1 : Mines are cloacked while burrowed , even after they fired after the armory is complete! 2: Mines can hit ground AND air for high enough single target dmg to 1 shot many units and deal a rather meaningfull aoe dmg ! 3: Mines don't die upon attacking, & they can recharge! 4: They're cheap and easy to mass produce ( just as banelings ) and overall yeld better results than banelings after these were nerfed !

[@hoffa57]

​@@user-ow2ln3pw7dYes but mines are immobile vs mobile banelings, and 1 mine takes the same supply as 4 banelings. With maxed armies the amount of dmg banelings can deal is quite high.

[@tonysiouxfan]

​@hoffa57 Widowmines are the worst units ever created in starcraft.

[@user-ow2ln3pw7d]

@@hoffa57 Mines are more area denial compared to banelings, and force détection out of the opponent They're only immobile while burrowed, and although it's a bit more APM intensive to reposition them during a fight, their présence is far more meaningful than banelings unless You get backed against the Edge of the Map in which case enough banes anihilate almost anything which isn't Armored on the ground! Mines are an anchor/ tactical Point to Lure the ennemy forces in to thin their numbers and hp... banes are slightly more offensive oriented in that regard, but a few mines ( let's Say 5) can kill far more units than banes, also unless they're on Creep, banes can be outrun! Supply wise I can't argue, mines need more!

[@milesnorris732]

first

[@slevinlaine]

:p

[@JoseGarcia-gc4ij]

too lvl dark

[@nickolasmachoka5541]

Widow mines are the lamest unit in sc2