THIS DIFFERENCE IS HUGE! | EQPWA vs Pultec EQP1a | Plugin VS Hardware

[@joelleones4571]

I walked so y’all could run This is exactly what’s on the Discord: “On all comparisons A: Plugin B: Hardware”

[@ThaRealDawn]

Bro, that's messed up to bait people to your discord like that. I'm turning video off now! Switch Bait

[@jayrobarge3443]

I agree

[@quentinjames981]

Fully agree

[@cheintz44]

yep = total crap! Scammer

[@kitchenspider]

Yep, I'm not watching another second of this clowns content... wasted my time.

[@blkgostnone4092]

Ditto Trash Business must be slow…😅

[@DVNT]

weird, I preferred A on all except the mix buss. Already read which is which. The cymbals & hats on the drums are painfully harsh with the hardware.

[@simmermusic3894]

Interesting! I have the UAD plugin and I can tell it adds more mid EQ to the sound. On vocals however I actually like that warm touch of the plugin but on the final mix you can clearly hear more separation and space in the mix giving it more depth listening to the Hardware. I wonder if the same sound can be achieved through plugins, for example using a stereo widener and matching the EQ to the sound of the hardware instead of using the exact same settings. Thanks for sharing!

[@dave_d_i_a_l]

I was wondering the exact same thing...

[@RaunoPaananenAudio]

You must first mach both eq curves to the same with ex. plugin doctor. The potentiometers do not correspond to the same values ​​in the hardware as in the plugin. Then the difference is small, but it is there. I prefer hardware. Thanks

[@brenoamorim1475]

I didn't think the difference was huge, the “B” seems to sound a little hotter and with more definition at high frequencies. I believe “A” is the Plugin and “B” is the hardware

[@justinwyatt1618]

Same

[@Zifahrimas]

A is plug-in B is hardware

[@GorillaTonstudio]

right

[@cijoraju]

No discord plz...

[@obangamuzik]

You could’ve just told us which is which. And then mention you have a discord if we wanna see more stuff! 🙄

[@msvc23]

I liked the plug-in way much more in the drums

[@Shawneverette]

I think A is the hardware. it seems to have more distortion and is a little fatter.

[@WheelieMix]

B seemed to have a bigger bottom-end, but the phase is all over the place and the midrange is really suffering from this (pretty awful on the mixbus). Pretty sure B is the hardware, very few Pultec Clone in the hardware world are done right, and I wouldn't expect Warm to do it, I know it sounds a bit harsh ^^ (according to the experience I have with their gear).

[@mattmullin33609]

Harsh yet true. B is the hardware. You were right.

[@WheelieMix]

@@mattmullin33609 Ah thanks for that, not surprising tho :(.

[@noiz.9111]

The snare in the B aux is very thin compared to the one in the A aux... So I think B is the plugin

[@musiccreation1198]

Imo, Audioscape's pultec is well worth the extra $$ over the WARM.

[@thomasvopstal]

Will give it a shot

[@EdThorne]

A = UAD Plugin. B = Hardware. The hardware sound deeper but removes some top end like all Warm Audio gear does. The UAD has the spacious top end of a PulTec but sounds slightly flatter. For future videos, maybe find a way to make it more obvious when you’re changing sources. I didn’t notice the Solo A/B for a while 😂 Thanks for the vid!

[@lortakeover2129]

can we Get a top 10 plugin for vocal

[@asymmetrymedia9838]

All warm audio stuff removed top end? My warm audio 76 and 512 disagree with you

[@joeyf808]

Like Your vids , not feeling going to your discord for the answers. why not reveal here?

[@richardharmon9596]

I was actually supposed how close they both were on the 2 bus . The vocal was close as well , however the Pultec squeezed out a little more presence that I like . The Bass for me hands down the Pultec had the richest cleanest bass overall . The thickness of the bass was nice and heavy yet smooth and not overwhelming . Good video

[@thomasvopstal]

Nice! So when you say the pultec, you mean the plugin?

[@user-bo8ex4ji7n]

I think the difference between plugin and hardware was extreme for bass. The bass sounded incredible on hardware - now I am worried I am missing out since I own no hardware EQ's but that bass was sooo good.

[@RockmannMusic]

Thanks for the video. Nonetheless I'm not a fan of additional steps and a subscription to see the results

[@thomasvopstal]

I know, i’ve changed that. Now doing blind tests with the result at the end of the video!🦾

[@bontempo1271]

"Yes we are still Dutch over here" 😂 That was interesting. But going off the sound i expect from the hardware, i think A = Plugin, B = Hardware. A is narrow, doesn't add the hefty pillowy low end, nor the smooth high end of the Pultec, but because of that it retains the perception of the mids, albeit a bit nasally. But what is the use when it hasn't done the Pultec thing. I think those Warm Audio units sound like the Klark Teknik clones, got to be weary of losing the perception of the mid range.

[@krissheehy]

Cool video, however, it's pretty clear that the plug-in needs to be pushed more than the hardware for the same results. In other words, the hardware settings will not match the plug-in settings 1:1. You matched them 1:1 sooo this isn't really a fair test by that metric. I think it would have been a cool test if you dialed in the UA EQP plug-in to something you like and then tried to match it by ear with the hardware. The bottom end of the plug-in just needs a bit more of a push. It's especially apparent on the mix bus example. I own both the plug-in and the hardware and use both so I have no bias one way or another. Overall, a really awesome video though! I subbed!

[@Dane_Riazer]

6:28 A sounds really good on these bad headset I have right now so now i'm curious if this is the Analogue.

[@Dane_Riazer]

8:44 B Sounds good, less resonance, but again i'm at work on bad headset lol

[@TheGARCK]

B = More high end, more stereo separation, but less and softer bass

[@xmun2450]

A better open top B fuller Bass A plugin B hardware ?

[@threepe0]

The attenuation isn’t “higher up in the frequency spectrum.” The q is different. The distinction is important.

[@Ruben.R]

If B is not the hardware then I'm in love with the uad pultec but I highly doubt it idk maybe it is haha ill stand my ground A is Plugin and B is hardware.😁

[@LanewoodStudios]

The biggest difference for me was on the vocal and the full mix. Less of a difference on the first two examples. Listening on hifi speakers, not in the studio at the moment. I felt B was a bit harsh compared to A in vocal and full mix examples. I have no idea which one is plugin or hardware even though I have both myself as well 😅.

[@Velociraptarus]

Guys, I prefer the plug-in over vocals, but maybe you need the original Pultec hardware, not the WA 😆

[@angelspirit]

The first vocal is louder arround 1 db ,at least you could do the comparison on same level ... also i think you should know as a sound engineer that the same settings are not doing the same thing (hardvare vs software). Example : 3 db boost on high with the hardvare is lets roughly say 5 db on the software ... on other vst clones could be the opposite .

[@user-fc4tn4em2n]

Bro wtf, give us the answers! I come here to listen for comparison and I want answers at the end of the video or in the comment. This is not cool.

[@user-fc4tn4em2n]

A is hardware B is harsh plugin

[@thomasvopstal]

Discord has all the answers😁

[@jameskeenatch3726]

@@thomasvopstal I agree why do we have to jump through hoops to get the answer I believe a is the hardware

[@ErikVillanuevaOfficial]

@@thomasvopstal thumbs down. what the fuck is this review?

[@alexitziar3246]

There is 4 examples, I will call to hd "H" and to UAD pluging "P". Example 1 I think is H/P Example 2 P/H Example 3 H/P Example 4 May be again H/P Please tell me if I am correct with it. Thanks a lot! Alex from San Sebastian (Basque country - Spain)

[@wyrlismike]

seriously? discord? wtf

[@AonaMedia]

Hello, Please I am curious to test the SSL 4000 E plugin VS Hardware SSL 4000 E Console.

[@craftermonster3470]

yeah that confirms what i thought of the warm audio. nothing to do with a pultec. way too bright and unpleasant on the HF band and muddy on the LF. although the uad one's pretty close to a real one

[@osomdovictor7917]

Dude, "A" clearly sounds more vibrant and has more like a crispy texture. It certainly does have the analog feel to it. As an UAD pultec owner I'd be glad to find out A is the plug in...but most likely not 😢 lol

[@richardharmon9596]

All I know is on the Bass example and the Vocal example,. both of the first start off devices to me was the same and sounded fantastic . I am assuming was the Pultec

[@jeromelester8]

Soundwise, Warm Audio doesn't have much to do with a real Pultec. The curves look very close to a cheap Klark-Teknik EQP-KT.

[@bontempo1271]

Yes i think the Warm Audio and Klark Teknik sound similar, if i'm not mistaken, produced by the same factory. But, they sound better than the plugins and are closer to the smooth heft that a Pultec does. I have heard some comparions to the original Pultec and it's not a million miles away. Useable if you can't afford the high end units.

[@bakharandi]

I bought the UAD Pultec from the Spark collection . . . . It really feels like a Tease to get me to buy an expensive Apollo interface . . . The UAD has asked me to restart my DAW, midsession, so it can get reauthorized . . . !?@y@?! . . . And now I am getting this strange new message . . . "Connect Sample Content Drive" . . . !?@y@?! . . . So, I bought the Rule Tec Heritage Pro, and it sounds much better, and works flawlessly with any interface . . . So, it's really nice of UA to pull up their Yacht, all offer the use of their plugins to common folks, like myself . . . Yet, they need to sort out their authorization system, before I try anything else from them . . . !?@y@?! . . . ! . . . 🙂 (-;

[@matt_nyc_audioengineer]

I can't find the answers anywhere on Discord.

[@MaraldBes]

Hardware -> B as it sounds a bit brighter and more pronounced, I just prefer the sound and don't care if it's the plugin or HW, would prefer B.. compared the character seems quite similar, but eq is way off ...(en ook gelukkig nieuwjaar en beste wensen)

[@dkrecording3324]

A-HARDWARE B-PLUGIN

[@drakewatkins2624]

So between the warm audio and the actual pultec how much of a actual difference is there does the pultec have a 5 times the price difference same tubes in both units just different transformers 🤷‍♂️ interesting

[@walterlopez1504]

Hey Thomas, an idea for an upcoming video or even a quick KZbin Short. Can you talk about your education in audio and how someone who is self taught can get hired at a studio?

[@awedee.0]

A is the hardware if anyone was wondering

[@chadjohnson-authormusician8072]

Went to the Discord channel, but I couldn't find the results.

[@mirkogolub4927]

Whatever...not "heading over" anywhere...😂

[@gregoryisom8333]

This conversation becomes (PRICE), and the have's and haves not's; if you're starting out, it's best to get the plugin for a fraction of the cost. Only then, when you produce a hit song being played worldwide and speaking of the world, you will be on tour in every city and country on the planet with mad loot to spend on plugins or outboard gear! Think about it; both units do a great job (The End).

[@dsanj4745]

Interesting to see (at 2:32) that although the low frequency is set at 60hz, the shelf slope actually begins at roughly 1500hz and the attenuation at roughly 750hz. I was aware of the questionable labeling on the eq but have only seen the graphic display on one or two videos prior.

[@TheRaveBarn]

FWIW I actually prefer that the answers are over on discord instead of just in the description. Keeps the comments honest and forces the listener to actually sit and *listen* instead of just seeing what's what and getting a bias.

[@ofcl.faculty]

I tried Pultec plugins of Waves, Overloud, Softube, T-Racks, Noiseash and Analog Obsession. I liked the one from Noiseash and Analog Obsession the most. Sadly never tried UAD or analog ones.

[@FredDeMassiveAlambic]

Tried almost everything too (AO, IK, UAD, Logic's, Noise Ash, Softube, Waves, Overloud). My favorite is the UAD as it's the closer to the original unit which is pretty clean. Most of pultec emulations are offering crazy saturation/vibe whereas the original unit is pretty clean, only a bit of color in the low mids. UAD gets this right and I like the transparency, the "just something over the top from a ProQ3". IK and NoiseAsh are pure vibes : tons of saturation and color ! They can be the right tool sometimes but I often find these too much. The Warm Audio is also very saturated compared to an original pulse techniques. AO sounds great, but I find something harsh in all of their plugins.. maybe that's me ! (In comparison, I find something boomy in most IK plugs too)

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

My favourite is Acustica Titanium EQ, it's an emulation of the TubeTech Pultec. Blows everything else I've heard out the water.

[@user-eg2oq8xf4y]

warm audio = B. Takes easily

[@thevictorydrive]

Wait does he pull the ole’ come to my discord for the result? Oh HELL NAH. I’m out. Thanks for saving me the time fellas!

[@Balverine]

Comparing a hardware clone vs a plug-in, this video makes no sense

[@JoshuaSifuentes-d9g]

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[@ArchiveTv995]

I think the warm is the B

[@shineliketko]

Just now seeing this one. And wow. I need some hardware pulteqs asap 😂 Adds thick low end and a 3D-ness to the sound. Top end did seem to get brittle when pushed so I'd pull that back a touch

[@sos-tegno]

B is hardware

[@rinusvandiemen6115]

Whooooo

[@thegroove2000]

One would have to know what the original pultec hardware sounds like in order to perform a proper comparison, would you not?.

[@thomasvopstal]

The idea behind this comparison is that most people do not have the funds available to buy a real pultec. But they might consider getting the warm audio. What i wanted to find out is if getting the warm audio would be a step up from the plugin, which is also why i switched to the apollo converters for this video.

[@thegroove2000]

@@thomasvopstal kool.

[@listenfidi]

B = hardware, A = Plugin. This one is pretty easy

[@dougleydorite]

Most have said opposite.. not so easy evidently

[@listenfidi]

@@dougleydorite yes! it was easy for me i mean

[@thomasvopstal]

@@listenfidi have you checked on discord?

[@stephenwiley5617]

wrong

[@pepesebastiao9654]

b-hardware

[@tzotchisz]

I don't get how it is possible to have so much reviews/comparisons/tests in crazy studios with such BAD MUSIC SOURCES. It's badly played, badly recorded and uninspiring, so how can you compare things ? It's such a loss of time (for me) and of ressources (you know, servers need to keep this somewhere, and they need energy). MEH !

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Haha that's horrible you baited your discord. Definitely not subscribing after that bs

[@gunnarwaage4343]

this comparison does not work. What you are actually testing is the mapping of the knobs to the electronics which can vary quite a bit. Can you produce the same curve on both with ease or not, that is the question, not 'are the knobs in the same place'. So I understand you are young and you like to get in to this, I suggest you read up on comparison methods in general. Also consider using tracks with a wide frequency spectrum. A Pultec goes down to 20hz. Thats what I would like to see (hear) becourse both senses are at play in a proper comparison of this equipment. I hope I am not offending but having 40 years in this so I hope you are ok with this advice.