This E-Scooter Proves All The Stereotypes WRONG

[@JackScarlett1]

Small correction folks, rear motor is 750W not 750KW. Imagine!

[@ratbert1]

Lets have lots more on micro-mobility please.

[@cannygrowabeard]

Wheelie like a mo fo

[@robcole5805]

Surely a review on a 750kW scooter would just be 10 mins of terrified screaming!! 😁

[@Chris1511]

Jack, can you start a fashion insta or something, I want all the clothes you wear 😂

[@Sekir80]

@@robcole5805 One would assume, yes! Probably not wrong! :D

[@NickAskew]

I've got my bike and I'm happy with it, but actually if you think of that scooter as a replacement for a car for shorter journeys then it really is so obviously good. Now here in the Netherlands space to use such a vehicle is not a big problem, but if the UK could just get its head around cleaner transport, converting some roads to cycle and scooter routes, this could be a great part of the plan.

[@AtheistEve]

They will still require all the trappings of non-electric scooters/mopeds. So, people have to get their heads around that. These are not a regulation-free form of transport.

[@NickAskew]

@@AtheistEve I see them as akin to the electric bikes. They need categorisation and regulations. The problem for the UK seems to be a reluctance to move from "the car is the King of the road" mentality towards a greener attitude where the car is just one option and not even the best option for short journeys.

[@AtheistEve]

@@NickAskew The best we can hope for is for all the tax, insurance and MOTs to be set at a lower rate because of local emissions. But, if it’s anything like the electric car situation, the government will just terminate all incentives before the benefits can be fully felt.

[@waqasahmed939]

Also dead useful to hop onto the train. The issue however is that most train operators don't allow them

[@goofyahhh254]

@@waqasahmed939 yeah but arent public transport government funded, so laws need to change already

[@petercandlish4398]

Great to see the focus on micro-mobility. In one way or another, this a big part of the future. Really good area for the show

[@theobserver9131]

You noted as a feature the foot pads....personally, I would prefer a larger deck to place my feet where I want them. One foot in front of the other would give you greater control against getting launched over the handlebars if you encounter an obstacle, and potentially more comfort. Other than that, it looks like a very nice vehicle!

[@financeusparts4799]

Totally agree with you..

[@dronurergun]

One foot in front of the other is a must for emergency breaking

[@oddball7483]

​@@dronurergunShould NOT be traveling so FAST as to require an emergency stop !. BE AWARE OF OTHERS NEEDS

[@kennethhicks2113]

Ability to move/change position is paramount for comfort for me... why my ebike is awful on my knees.

[@jd-xj3ew]

​@@dronurergunbreaking is what happens after you crash

[@BravoManUK]

It's not the scooters that are the problem, it's the way some people use them. As a wheelchair user, I have already had someone run into me and had another near miss. So not a big fan.

[@xxwookey]

This applies to all modes of transport. Some people will operate them badly and cause collisions. Bikes/cars/even other wheelchairs occaisionally. And yes we want to discourage that by all of: enforcement of the rules, sensible rules in the first place, and infrastructure that keeps the three speeds of foot (0-4mph, bike(5-15mph) and car(20-60mph) segregated as much as possible.

[@johnmcnulty6171]

Totally agree they should be legal now. If they were, I'd put an order in for a Taur tomorrow.

[@waqasahmed939]

Yup. Taur's willingness to pay your fine is nice but they can't exactly absolve any point on the licence :(

[@joecashman3225]

Completely agree with your comment about keeping up with traffic. Thank you for highlighting this.

[@MuslimTours]

Is this company even for real. 1. No contact info on their website 2. They offer financing on the Taur 1 but when you select this option it says its not available 3. The kickstarter campaign ended im the summer with backers supposed to receive their scooters shortly after 4. No updates on the kickstarter page for months despite backers asking all the time 5. No update on their social media for months 6. Many backers have asked for refunds

[@GeorgeThoughts]

Yeah the legal status of scooters is a strange one really. They're not explicitely banned, they're not allowed due to the wording of vehicle/tax/insurance laws which would be easy to fix with an exception. I loved your point that the law is holding back innovation and safety on these vehicles because who wants to buy expensive quality if it might be taken off you? On the point about fires. You didn't mention that most scooter fires happen indoors when charging. I follow a number of fire service accounts and they all have the same warnings against the batteries in these scooters burning people's houses down. I assume more expensive, higher quality batteries are the answer but still, that's another risk rn.

[@hamshackleton]

Most of the fires are caused by the incorrect charger being used, and the thing is left on charge all night! The better e-devices have a battery monitor built-in that turns the power down to a trickle, or completely off, when the battery nears full, or if the wrong charger is plugged in.

[@zombiestyled]

They could also get round the battery fire issue by bringing in some protectionism around e-scooters production. Make all of them in the UK with required safety standards.

[@JamesScholesUK]

Yeah, cheap = no real BMS = no overcharge detection/prevention = 🔥

[@t.terrell7037]

@@hamshackletonare you in the UK or the States? Was wondering if you know of any good brands that have the feature you mentioned?

[@Metalshark100]

only issue i can see with this is the round tube going down the centre. should make it rectangle and flat, slightly wider middle to fit all the electronics and battery and can still have the sides fold up if needed for storage. this would allow for movement on the scooter and ability to change position rather than staying in one set stance. would be much safer for rider too.

[@KenWerkSolar]

And if you own it you won't be leaving it lying across a public sidewalk in the way of everyone.

[@BruceWayne15325]

Make sure when buying an e-scooter that you start off slow for the first few weeks, either with a slow scooter like this, or if you buy a higher performance scooter then still stay under 20mph (12kph) for a few weeks until you are fully comfortable with it. I think the reason there were so many accidents when rental scooters became a thing was because people assumed they knew how to ride one, and yeah they aren't hard, but when a challenging situation presents itself if you don't have a bit of experience you can panic and crash just like a new bike rider. It's best if that happens at a speed that you can jump off and run rather than at higher speeds. Do lots of research, not all scooters are created equal, and some are downright useless. Make sure the scooter you buy meets your commuting (or play) needs. Realize that websites exaggerate the speed and especially the range of the scooter. Normally you will only get about 60% of the stated range under real world conditions. Make sure you get a scooter that matches your commute and can handle your body weight. If you have hills on your commute that's a huge consideration, and it's going to massively impact which scooter you buy as not all scooters can handle hills, while others could practically climb a wall if the wheels would stick to it. Realize that affiliate reviewers are paid to sell scooters. There's nothing wrong with that, but treat affiliate reviews as you would a car salesman. Great for facts, but be careful of the sunshine on your bottom.

[@ShortVersion1]

Just went from a Segway ES scooter to Apollo Air and I've been amazed at the subtle design differences and how much they improve quality of ride. You guys should have the most fun with micromobility

[@sir_humpy]

Did you need to change a tire on Apollo air? I heard it's a nightmare and literally impossible to do just by yourself.

[@anthonydyer3939]

If these we legal on the road, I could drop it into the boot of my car and have it available to do last mile journeys in larger congested towns. That’s much easier than having to fold the seats down to make room for a bicycle.

[@Flyingtwiglet]

Great video Jack. Covered all the key points. I commuted on 750W eScooter for a year pre covid and it was great. Sold it though when there were increasing reports of fines and points. Madness. Good to see more micro mobility vids and not just cars. :D

[@stephenclay6852]

Absolutely agree with you. They should be legalised. If you can ride one of those hire scooters then what’s the difference.if it were your own scooter it wouldn’t be dumped on a pavement somewhere where you can trip on it as is the case with the ones you hire you would keep it with you. The only thing would say is there would have to be an age limit or you need a motorbike or car license to ride it on a public road. With some form of liability insurance. 7:12

[@leoshairp8096]

Your on the money Jack!! The efficiency of travelling across London on electric skateboards using the protected cycle lanes is unbelievable. Yet it's probably more illegal than legal!! We wanted to take the skateboards to Paris for a fencing tournament, but Eurostar were scared of the batteries. Surely, a fire resistant compartment (happy to pay extra) would mitigate this small risk! They would have no issues with a mobility scooter or electric bike! That scooter looks great value. Unfortunately, if there's a risk of it being confiscated by the police, the cheaper option is more compelling!! The potential to cut down on my car journeys (currently combustion) or avoid city centres is compelling! I just wish parliament would do a days work!!

[@ridetaur]

Re confiscation, yep, that's precisely why we're paying people's fines AND replacing units free of charge if they're confiscated by police :)

[@موسى_7]

This video won me over to the pro-scooter side. I used to think they were stupid before.

[@derekth71]

The scooter itself is not dangerous if ridden responsibly but, let's face it, there are a lot of people out there using them with no road sense/awareness, and often a lack of regard for others. It's these people who are causing the problems for all those who want to ride scooters responsibly, and are holding back the potential benefits this form of transport could offer with some proper road segregation/management and sensible legislation.

[@yips_way]

I was looking for this comment - totally agree. Scooters are generally safe, it's a lot of the idiots riding them that make them unsafe unfortunately. No sense/awareness/respect as said.

[@timscott3027]

Part of the reason there is so much poor scooter riding out there at the moment is due to the lack of regulation. I mean if they're illegal anyway then what does it matter if you go up kerbs and through red lights etc. Also a lot of teenagers ride them who have had no motorcycle or car training and maybe are not even used to riding a bike. Making them legal and introducing some basic highway code training in some way would help.

[@philhimsworth]

​@@yips_waybut these idiots are currently just driving cars instead, which is even less safe...

[@nc3826]

we all know that we're the only rational person and the rest of the world is idiots lmao.... Like it or not scooters are based on a skateboard platform, which is Inherently unstable and you get zero real exercise, unlike a bicycle....

[@timscott3027]

@@nc3826 a scooter or skateboard is not anymore inherently unstable than a car or any other vehicle. All vehicles have different levels of stability even in the same category.

[@Why-I-Oughta]

Make sure companies are communicative before you buy from them. This one isn't!

[@marcwhite7733]

Hotwells and the basin,fab place to live,nice 6 miler through Liegh Woods over the bridge and down the steps back into Hotwells in enough time for a pint in the Rose of denmark on the corner 😊

[@retrothruster2539]

I like it, as a motorcycle guy, I'm very curious about the side by side stance, I live in a rural area so I'd need more speed and would prefer suspension, I do like the wheel size though. I see this style of scooter gaining traction in the market.

[@PhilipKiely-s9v]

Hi Jack. Have you thought about covering the Pure Advanced + or Pure Advanced Flex on the channel? They are similar products and their release is not subject to a Kickstarter campaign.

[@michaelarulanantham8833]

The Pure Air Advance has the gull wing foot pads...going back to your Electroheads roots Jack?

[@Acemeistre]

If we want micro mobility in Cities then I'm sure looking at how the Netherlands do it would be a start. Their infrastructure for public transport and bike lanes is a template for all 😍

[@g0fum]

The UK government missed a trick on these. They should have been legalised and at 20-25mph to be safe on the roads. I would say what we need is you can only ride one on paths where pedestrians are a maximum of 10mph and on roads 25mph. Be insured and must have a training certificate like the CBT for 16 year olds on 50cc motorcycles. That way people cant moan about safety, government are happy as they'll get a bit of revenue that they will lose when people get out of cars on to the scooters and people's health would be much better.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Too many inexperienced road users on the scooters is the main issue for me, they take far too many chances on the road and lot of them do not wear helmets, lights etc

[@12alocin]

That could be said for car drivers!

[@jameslewis2635]

As a motorist I think I would rather share the road with e-scooters like this than a lot of the current generation e-bikes that I have seen going around at motorcycle speeds and being ridden extremely recklessly. I do honestly think that if a powered vehicle is capable of doing >30mph it should be subject to the same kind regulation as you would see of a traditional scooter or low powered motorcycle - mandatory helmets and a test (like the CBT - a 1 day course for learner bikers) just to boost road safety because a fair few of these people are still doing things like running red lights as if road safety doesn't matter and the road just belongs to them.

[@Spacecazeka]

man i could never live in the UK with the bullshit scooter laws

[@pingwingugu5]

I see few problems with e-scooters. They are too slow for traffic, and too fast for side walks. You can fix one of those and make a fast e-scooter but then it will be even more unsuitable for use on side walks. For example in Poland there was a big public outcry after a chain of accidents involving e-scooters ramming into people on sidewalks, and kids riding them very unsafely. The other thing is the batteries. They are quite substantial. A big battery is a big fire hazard. I wince when I hear about people charging their e-bike or e-scooters in their living rooms or bedrooms. If that thing goes into flames your place will burn to the ground. That is also the reason why you cannot take it into a tube (and why you are limited to 100kWh batteries on airplanes). The risk of fire is small for good quality products, but if we are talking about mass adoption that risk spreads over a lot of people and some accidents bound to happen. Discussing how to charge EVs safely should be an important topic. I would never consider buying an e-bike, e-scooter or other small EV with a battery that is build in and not easily removable for charging. If the battery is removable you can more easily find a safe charging solution: bat-safe box (double walled metal box, with venting holes) or a good quality battery-bag (special non-flammable kevlar bag).

[@t.terrell7037]

Any suggestions for other safe modes of micro mobility?

[@pingwingugu5]

@@t.terrell7037 regular bicycles are quite safe, foldable ones are compact enough to take into public transport. No batteries, no worries. They are also fast and stable enough to be used on roads safely. E-scorers aren't bad, but I don't think their place is on the sidewalk or the road. They should be used on cycle paths. As I mentioned before, charging big batteries indoors makes me nervous. I might be paranoid about it but I think people do no take into consideration how dangerous those batteries are. I don't hear enough about having a safe charging spot outside or at least a proper safe charging box in videos about micro EVs. Other option is to buy something that uses LiFe batteries. Those are less fragile and don't go in flames. The drawback is less power density, I think they only hold half the capacity per unit of weight compared to LiIon batteries.

[@BMWHP2]

Scooters arn't dangerous, the people on it are.

[@alaneasthope2357]

In my experience, as with bicycles, it's the rider that's the problem. Driven in accordance with the highway code, they are no different to a bicycle except you don't have to pedal it.

[@nc3826]

Physics differ..... Like it or not scooters are based on a skateboard platform, which is Inherently unstable and you get zero real exercise, unlike a bicycle.... And everybody does something stupid occasionally, but on a unstable platform It has much worse consequences....

[@carlshipley790]

Just bleeding brilliant and just what I've been looking for thank you so much 👍🤗i can't wait to get my hands on one

[@mastweiler22]

The whole Micro mobility idea needs a legislative rethink. You have to register and pass a test to fly heavier drones so I'm sure someone can make a few quid registering and testing people for e-scooters and the like. Maybe a two stage test like they have to motorbikes, first test allows up to 15mph then the second to get you 25... maybe... I guess pushbikes can get up to 25 fairly easily. Oh and allow them to go the same places as pushbikes, keep them off footpaths.

[@hamshackleton]

and fit front, rear, and stop-lights!

[@emmabird9745]

My pedal cycle can do 40mph, but only down hill. 15mph on the flat is more realistic unless your a fit athlete that is.

[@pnkemp]

Really bonkers that the U.K. still hasn’t sorted the legal status more than a decade after they were experimenting with them at the Olympic park, and more than 5 years after they started the rental schemes. Let’s see…Treat them like bikes and e-bikes. Job done. Really wasn’t hard. Here in NZ electric scooters are extremely common around cities and no one had any issues with them using bike lanes or safely being in the road

[@johnnyforeigner11]

The big advantage an e-bike, is that, iit helps to keep you fit.

[@malcolmrose3361]

The stereotypes aren't about the E-Scooters themselves - they are about the arseholes who ride them without consideration for others. If they are to be made legal then the riders should be obliged to take a formal test before being allowed to ride them, and the scooters should be registered just like cars and motorcycles

[@John.0z]

No matter how good, how well-designed, how careful the owner is; that scooter is still illegal in NSW, Australia. Don't you just love politicians who are unable to understand how the world is changing?

[@t.terrell7037]

Anyone have any insight and advice on properly storing scooters if apartment dwelling and how to prevent possibility of fires. Thanks!

[@aliruane]

Agree with all of this. Great video. But I still can’t buy one with the legal risks attached. I can’t afford to lose that much money.

[@ridetaur]

Re confiscation, yep, that's precisely why we're paying people's fines AND replacing units free of charge if they're confiscated by police :)

[@emsik185]

it cost 150 to get it back 😮

[@badabing8884]

It’s not just the e-scooters it’s who rides them and what happens in terms of collisions and who is liable. They need to sort that out. Are they a class of micro-mobility that is allowed only on roads and cycle lanes? Should they be allowed on shared paths and bridleways? The cycling infrastructure is appalling in the UK - treated as something tacked on to what we have already. That needs to be sorted out as part of a proper transport policy in this country that is so car centric.

[@downwind_david]

Here in Perth, Western Australia, I feel the government came up with reasonably sensible legislation whereby scooters are allowed on bike paths and local roads with speed limits of 50kmh (30mph). The scooters themselves are all speed limited to 25kmh (15mph). I don't understand why the UK can't do something similar...

[@petesmitt]

I don't want a yobbo on one of these flying the other way at me riding my bicycle on a bike path; if they want to ride one of these on the road, that's on them if they get wiped out by a truck..

[@downwind_david]

@@petesmitt So yobbos on bikes flying at you at 20mph is ok? The reason I ask is that the percentage of yobbos on scooters is roughly the same percentage as on bikes. Across the years as an avid cyclist, I have witnessed many inconsiderate bicycle riders, however that hasn't meant that I've tarnished the whole cycling community with the same brush. The vast majority of riders of either are just trying to get from A to B. Secondly, your use of the word 'flying' seems to suggest that you think that scooters are traveling at a far greater speed than bikes. In fact, 15mph is roughly the same or slower than most people on bikes. I can barely keep up with my 11 yr old son and 9 yr old daughter on their bikes and as a cyclist, I would easily average 20mph+ on a ride. If our overall end goal is to reduce the amount of polluting transport in our communities, then perhaps we should find a way to accommodate as many solutions as possible?...

[@zapfanzapfan]

Yes, make it legal, as long as you have a drivers license of some kind. It is a moped.

[@djtaylorutube]

It's not a ped though. Its power output exceeds a legal e bike (that's another topic altogether!) So it's really a motorbike. It's not the fine that's the issue but the points and 5+ years of impacting your car insurance for riding a motorbike with no insurance. Add on the optional points for unlicenced vehicle, no safety gear, non type rated etc.

[@zapfanzapfan]

@@djtaylorutube For its speed it should be EU moped class (45 km/h max) but UK is not in EU anymore so I guess they have to make up their own mind about what it is.

[@davidwicks9835]

Its looks great. I love that it can be folded and stood in a corner.

[@830jps]

My problem with these are, the kids that rent out or own it, has no drivers licence. So they don't know the rules of the road.

[@AndrewHelgeCox]

Being able to go as fast as traffic is safer for the rider when they are in traffic. It is not safer for children, old age pensioners and other people who share the pavements with riders of these scooters who may lack the agility or the awareness to jump out of the way of them.

[@GNiessen]

Wait, that rental scooter's wheels are basically the same size. I know some are smaller, but you picked a bad example.

[@andresilva8444]

Police were quiet until the rental ones came out. I sold mine as soon as I could after I hear of friends of friends being fined and having their scooters confiscated. Now I take the bus,.... which is expensive. or the tube, which is double that of the bus.

[@charliehammerslough4407]

Not that it matters to the rest of the world, but keeping private scooters illegal will inhibit UK participation in this fast-growing sector.

[@arnegerhardsen3755]

Thanks. I agree that aprox 20 miles or 30-35 km/h are safer than only e-assist up to 25 km/h on electric bikes and trikes. With your influence you could tell European authorities that 30-35 km/h with e-assist is safer for most people. This could be used by grown up people that can make up their minds themselves what speed is the safest in their commuting. And I think more peple would use an e-bike or trike for commuting instead of a big car, for example with all weather protection, if they could keep on some better with other traffic on open roads and use less time on their commute. Best Regards from Norway.

[@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch]

You really understand this issue well. i think micro mobility should be taught in school, as a way of life and as the future, being implemented, now.

[@andrewpitts6498]

How's the motorcycle licence coming along? Are we going to see reviews of electric mopeds, scooters (sit on) and motorcycles? 🙏

[@fetB]

tread is the part of the tire that is making contact with the ground, whether it has a profile or is uniform aka slick. There is no such thing and treadless tires. You'd be running on the carcass

[@peterlang3369]

The Pure Advance has same type of boards to stand on so not innovative also the Advance flex (which I have) folds much more compact, my concern is this goes 24 MPH / 39 KPH where as the Pure is same at a e bike 15.5 MPH and had built in lights and indicators

[@Why-I-Oughta]

Taur had the parallel feet placement design before Pure.

[@EspenFrafalne]

That thing looks like a safety hazard, considering you want to have one foot ahead of the other, to avoid being thrown over the handlebars while breaking

[@PHXRenegade]

"Spooned by a sweaty rando on the tube" made me exhale coffee through my nose :-)

[@samuxan]

back in 2018-19 it seemed everyone got one of these but I don't know anyone who has used it for over 6 months, Maybe it's that the cheapest models break or they outlive their usefulness. i should ask them

[@brushlessmotoring]

It might be the crackdown the UK police did, giving fines and points on the license for private e-scooters. You could end up clocking up 12 points and no longer being able to drive a car, plus your car insurance goes through the roof as you are seen as a high risk driver.

[@ridetaur]

Lots of cheap models around back then. TAUR is 'built like a tank' (as the Electroheads reviewer put it), is designed to last years, and be maintainable in a local bicycle repair store.

[@drnh4444]

Why this one over a cheaper Pure model?

[@danthemandavies]

I have been commuting on one of my 2 e scooters for 3 years. Ok I live in Copenhagen where we have bike lanes everywhere. Only take my bike when having a drink as we can get points on the driving license if stopped on a motorized vehicle under the influence. Big decent e scooters with suspension, beefy tires are a decent amount of power are safer to ride than the standard ones. Better breaks, power to get up hills etc. my big scooter does 50kmh and has a range of about 50km. It is like having a moped that you can fold up and take into the office. UK needs to sort out the stupid laws around this great micro mobility solution. Use a helmet at all times, mine has built in indicators as you need to keep to hands on the steering.

[@t.terrell7037]

Any issues with charging batteries or fire hazards?

[@dmain6735]

Great upload. Sensible riding habits go a long way.

[@Sailorman6996]

The scooter rental companies would loose a lot of money if these was legal. I wonder if lobbying is involved? They have the motive

[@chukidee6634]

Not just e-scooter rental companies but also other bigger disruptive implications down the line!

[@human_brian]

I think you meant 750w for the power output, 750kW is insane amounts of oomph.

[@cg986]

Would be funny to see him test that lol

[@Mr-eGolf]

Omg!! Bring back Onewheel Jack!!! I found some old videos and he was really good on a Onewheel!

[@ifanlappage2802]

A good review of how good the scooter goes (keeping up with traffic), but how easy is it to stop? good that it has indicators, has it got front & rear lights? IP55 seems like a fair rating for weather proofing (though not total immersion, it won't work safely underwater), good range, nice design & foldable. Just need convincing it can stop quickly & safely, and that I could ride it to work legally before rushing to buy one.

[@ridetaur]

Hey, We use both disc brakes and regen for a couple reasons. Using both provides a whole lot of stopping force. But it also gives you redundancy in the rare event one braking system doesn't slow you down as intended. Also this is the only scooter on the market with standard bicycle-sized disc brakes.

[@robertstout7756]

The main safety issue with E scooters is someone who’s never ridden one rents one in a city doesn’t have the skills to drive safely in traffic and gets hurt. If you own one, you can go through the learning curve in a safe environment, and then progress to the street.

[@kimkeam2094]

In Australia the maximum power is 250W! Nice looking scooter but illegal here. If you are going to do reports on scooters, can you advise if the manufacturer complies with safety ratings required to take on an aircraft.

[@xSMOKExEMxALLx]

Its crazy nuts, they're illegal in UK. I live in Canada & were allowed to basically do as we please, when it comes to E scooters. We even get away with riding them at huge speeds on the sidewalk. The cops in my city are to busy dealing with more important things, like real crime!

[@lv2465]

Here in the UK our police are busy enforcing Mauist style laws.

[@kbd9765]

Anyone know where this was filmed? I want to go to there

[@accesser]

Good design, will presented review! Keep up the great work guys!

[@MichaelEricMenk]

3:53 750Kw? What is a Kelvin w? Have never heard about a unit "w".

[@HansMilling]

Does it have built in lights, front and back? In my country it’s a requirement.

[@em0_tion]

Yesterday I witnessed a teenager slice his ankle open somehow while co-riding a scooter with his friends in the park. It was a slow careful ride, yet still - a pair of white sneakers and socks "gone" and a bit of a scary experience for him. Well-designed rides seem to be very underrated. 👍

[@DJSekuHusky]

This is one concern with a vehicle like this: the side by side stance is more balanced, sure, but your feet now lie beyond the border of the scooter frame. If you do wreck, the frame wont block it...if anything, I'd be more worried about losing footing and getting my foot or ankle pinned under the deck and causing a break, fracture, or (as you mentioned) lacerations. See, my scooter is an older lead-acid model retro-fitted to Li-ion. Due to the tiny deck size, side-by-side is inadvertently the most comfortable footing (and I can steer by applying pressure to the deck in much the same way as well). However, if/when I have to lay the bike down, the frame and deck extend beyond where my feet are, taking the force of impact while the cargo area I installed in the rear doubles as a frame-slider. The end result is I (and the scoot) get right back up and back to riding after a quick dusting-off. It even handles wonderfully in the snow, despite being RWD...I just have to decrease tire pressure and increase contact patch area.

[@tommglx]

How can we legalise electric scooters?

[@chrismanning217]

The rental is legal because they make $ off it obviously

[@elephantintheroom5678]

Oh my God, that's a perfect vehicle! I ❤ it ! In Australia we are allowed to have them, and take them on the bus and train as well. 👍

[@hamshackleton]

There's a similar problem with e-bikes. It is perfectly legal to ride them on the road,if you stay within the power limit and speed - providing they don't have a throttle! The problem is - most of them take off like a scalded cat when the motor kicks in, leaving the unprepared rider sitting on fresh air as the metalwork hurtles off uncontrolled. BUT the ones with a throttle, that can be faded in or trickled along, as needed ie in a crowded space - are not! The law is crazy! - - - These devices are great on warmer days, but pergatory in a freezing/rainy/snowing winter!

[@goofyahhh254]

completley agree.. thought by this point the government would do some more progress towards full legalisation...

[@yoz22floryn]

Let's pressure the government to legalize the e scooter faster, we need them to pe legal ✌️

[@SmithyScotland]

Wonder how many cars could easily be taken off the road if these were legalised?

[@dogbreath6974]

@@benson5967 more like 4

[@tonybarton3746]

A lot of damage in accidents is done by not going over the handle bars , but by hitting the steering column at speed usually round the midriff, not pleasant 😊

[@e-scooterguy]

Taur 2 is definitely a great improvement over V1, shame the indicators weren’t demonstrated. As to the “unique to taur” stance, pure electric do the pure advance which is the same stance style of scooter just with 10 inch wheels and one version literally folds in half too so it’s tiny. It was developed in Bristol ironically where this Taur review was shot 😂 once legalised be interesting to see how the advance and taur do…

[@ridetaur]

Yep, our design was certainly 'popular', shall we say. It's rapidly becoming the industry standard for most brands launching new scooters now.

[@WonderousWelland]

When you say it’s ‘your design’ is Apollo buying the design off you for their new scooter?

[@e-scooterguy]

@@WonderousWelland you probably can’t patent the stance as it’s already used in EUC’s 🤷‍♂️

[@ridetaur]

@@WonderousWelland they say immitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Still, if it helps makes eScooters safer...

[@tomwelland596]

@@ridetaur do you own the stance then if Apollo didn’t pay for it?

[@GillDundee]

I hate riding with my feet in same position. If I stand one foot in front other foot behind. I have more control I need to bend my legs I feel safer that way

[@antcooper]

The fact my e-bike is limited to less than this scooter makes me mad. Not at Jack or the EES but the idiots that make the rules. Reduce urban speed limits to 20mph and let us travel at the same speed to avoid driver frustration and poor overtaking.

[@ratbert1]

Couldn't agree more.

[@stevehayward1854]

It's ok if your going to work, you have somewhere to store it but if you go to meet friends at the local Mall, what do you do with them then, too easy to steal

[@kjeksklaus7944]

That is beautiful. but £800 when it is illegal yeh amazing they will pay the fine but then those 6 points impact your car insurance and motorbike insurance and hire car potential. Just can't take the risk at that price. I absolutely love that.

[@13ccasto]

I think vehicle regulation should be based on the potential kinetic energy of the vehicle (the equation for kinetic energy is the mass of an object multiplied by the velocity squared and divided by two) - as a solid proxy for the danger of the vehicle. An electric scooter that can go 25mph is no more dangerous than an old-fashioned bicycle that can also go that speed. Same logic for cars. Make it easier for people to choose smaller and slower forms of transportation!

[@RamsayandClements]

I think these are quite niche can’t take them on public transport so commuting with them isn’t really viable, well in my case anyway. The only use case for me would be to ride into town as opposed to my car, but by that stage I might as well not be lazy and get a pushbike haha.

[@brushlessmotoring]

Is your commute less than 50 miles? Chances are, it's car only road infrastructure that is stopping you - at least on a dry day - of leaving the car at home.

[@RamsayandClements]

@@brushlessmotoringour city is very car centric yes, they tried to implement are park and ride system but the car parking in the city is cheaper and way more convenient than the bus fare

[@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo]

The wrong kind of people use them in London. That’s the problem.

[@shhhyouknowhoo3753]

Oh dear, that’d be me then. Always wear a helmet. Mainly wear high vis. Never ride on the pavement. Don’t run the lights (unlike many cyclists). Zero inclination to swipe old ladies’ handbags - if that’s what you’re getting at. Enjoy a great, fresh air, commute. Don’t buy what you read in the Daily Mail!

[@joemcmorrow467]

Where was this filmed? Such a beautiful area to ride a scooter or ebike around!

[@mcmach1]

Bristol harbour

[@Mandalore313]

03:53 -> 750kW? Damn, that's just 10kW less than the Tesla Plaid :D

[@AndrewHelgeCox]

At the beginning you said it was untrue that we'd all be better off on bicycles but you never substantiated that claim other than by asserting that this folds better than a folding bike. I'd say we would all be better off on bicycles.

[@shaffermarkshaffer]

In some cases a bicycle would be preferable. In other cases not. This is not about scooters vs bicycles! In overcrowded cities where many people live in shared houses and flats, a compact, foldable personal transport solution like a scooter has many advantages over a bicycle. Foldable bicycles are complicated, expensive and relatively slow for most non-lycra clad people.

[@roidroid]

never once heard about a scooter "catching fire" until THIS VIDEO 🤔

[@MrGMawson2438]

Great review mate

[@mikemellor759]

Looks fun as well as useful - thanks for reviewing it. 🙏

[@krazYFaic]

I guarantee a lot of people will trip over that tube in the middle when getting off because they assume that both their feet at the same level and they're stepping down like in any other scooter. The footpad looks more like a downgrade. Really, the only innovation with this is the bigger wheels.

[@Jimages_uk]

Sadly, in Canterbury, where I live, they have even banned the once available hire scooters!

[@stevencowles8419]

They have gone from the streets up here in Cumbria too, they were a fixed term trial

[@Jimages_uk]

@@stevencowles8419 We were on a fixed term trial, which got extended, but the council decided they didn't like them in the end

[@stevencowles8419]

@@Jimages_uk our situation is a bit more complex, the local councils were reorganised to cover a larger area with new leaders, presume they decided not to renew is just part of the new area. A pity, I found them useful, took 40 minutes of a commute using them to the station and back

[@jameshut7331]

Completely glossed over the actual problems with e-scooters being that they are an absolute menace to pedestrians causing over 60 serious injuries and 1 death in the UK in 2022 and over 1100 injuries to the riders themselves

[@AtheistEve]

Accidents and injuries from mobility scooters are a hazard too. But somehow we have to allow for these things to be ridden safely.

[@brushlessmotoring]

You tube doesn't like links, so google "2022 uk car accidents" "2022 broadly shows a return to pre-pandemic trends. In reported road collisions in Great Britain in 2022 there were an estimated: 1,695 fatalities, a decline of 3% compared to 2019. 29,795 KSI casualties, a decline of 3% compared to 2019" So, scooters are 1695 times less likely to kill you than cars - I'll take those odds. Also, how many of those "scooter" accidents were actually caused by cars?

[@djtaylorutube]

Ban pedestrians! They're a menace. One killed a 77 year old cyclist in Cambridge. Terrible things, shouldn't be allowed on pavements.

[@shaffermarkshaffer]

There are statistics proving that e-scooters are at least as safe as push bikes. Any form or transport, including legs, can be a menace in the wrong hands.

[@johnstack5008]

If be afraid of ruining into a pothole and flying over the handlebars.

[@ElliotDooleysmith]

It's cool, but I think it looks a bit weird with the feet forward, side-by-side thing. I prefer the classic scooter deck.

[@ichydog]

The feet placement for the scooter is wrong the reason most people ride with one foot in front of the other is because if you do fall you will fall face forward and it makes it more dangerous to turn because you don’t have as much balance as you would if you put your feet the normal way and you can’t do that with this scooter