The Future of Two Wheel Riding Is In Recline!

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@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
10:21 "This makes a ton of sense for most city centres" I used to ride a recumbent and actually it was much better in the country than in the city. In the city a conventional bike is better because you can see better (head higher than cars), you can hop up kerbs if need be, and you are a more manouverable. Stopping at junctions on a 'bent is generally harder/less comfortable than on a normal bike. In the country where you have many fewer junctions, and there is less traffic craziness and more wind, the lower drag comes into its own and the disadvantages become unimportant.
@VacuousCat
@VacuousCat Жыл бұрын
Has to be a really upright bike like the Dutch ride. And the parking issue for long bikes in the city. Unless the city has cargo bike parking spaces, which really only some European cities have but they ride upright bikes.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
hi xxwookey, I fully agree with your assessment of conventional recumbents. However, I have to point out that the Electrom is not a conventional recumbent. The electric assist is a game changer when it comes to riding a recumbent in stop-and-go city traffic, and the Electrom cockpit places the rider at eye level with other motorists so they can see and be seen. but yes, the Electrom is also great in the country.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is going to be as popular as all the other non electric recumbent bikes.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
@@electrom_LEV Fair enough. And in a city with decent bike infrastructure most of the 'disadvantages' don't really matter. It's places where you have to cycle with the traffic and hop kerbs where a recumbent is less than ideal. I do like that rain-cover for the legs as that removes another disadvantage of 'bents: a very wet groin when it rains :-) And of course the electric counters the fact that they tend to be heavier bikes so it does look fun to ride. I hope you do well with it.
@K1989L
@K1989L Жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. It makes sense for long distances. Recumbents are awful in a city. If you got more than 30km commute a recumbent is great.
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 Жыл бұрын
I love how the kickstand balances the bike . That’s awesome for when you just want to take a break and have lunch . Awesome.
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx Жыл бұрын
Why don't you buy a picnic table?
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx the bike has a more comfortable seat 😛
@StarBoundFables
@StarBoundFables Жыл бұрын
Brilliant design, & it was fantastic seeing VanCity in the background Love all those trees, + the water by False Creek. Such a wonderful place to go for a bike ride
@rellaxum
@rellaxum Жыл бұрын
🤔waste of ... everything...no comfort ,hard balance,weird legs position...maybe as a tricycle bike may make sense...🤪👎😐👻
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati Жыл бұрын
So people are rediscovering recumbents and velomobiles are they?
@kenmcclow8963
@kenmcclow8963 Жыл бұрын
It’s a small but growing segment. I have two recumbent trikes, but I have been looking at getting a two wheel for ease of traveling with it
@lukeh3020
@lukeh3020 Жыл бұрын
This is a Sinclair C5. No progress after 50 years.
@jcev39
@jcev39 Жыл бұрын
​@@lukeh3020just shows how far ahead of its time the C5 was!
@lukeh3020
@lukeh3020 Жыл бұрын
@@jcev39 Agreed. Hope they catch on at last. I’d love to have one but wouldn’t want to be the only person in my city with one
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 Жыл бұрын
​@@lukeh3020 😂😂😂😂 Someone has to be the first. Why not you? Stop procrastinating and just get on with it!
@surrey-velo2419
@surrey-velo2419 Жыл бұрын
Well done Fully Charged for showing something a bit left field. I see a few people have mentioned velomobiles in the comments. I have 2 velomobiles, 1 with e-assist and 1 without. They look a lot more cool than the Electrom 1. The longest ride I have done since fitting 250W e-assist to my Strada velomobile last year is 80 miles and I still had half of the removable 36V 19.2Ah battery left when I got home.... so range is comparable with my Corsa-e but I have the option to double my range by carrying an extra battery if I want. Velomobiles are fast and efficient on the flat and downhill (60mph is not impossible if you are brave enough and conditions allow it) but slower than a normal bike uphill due to the extra weight (25Kg or more for non-assisted - my e-assisted Strada is about 40Kg but was over 30Kg without the motor). Adding e-assist makes it faster than a normal bike everywhere and much more comfortable and fun. It has good luggage space but I have a tow bar and trailer for when I need to carry a bit more. It is a true car alternative for many journeys. Velomobiles are very aerodynamic so don't require much power to go far or fast. My non-assisted velomobile has a Cd of 0.08.... considerably better than the 0.219 of the new Tesla model 3.
@surrey-velo2419
@surrey-velo2419 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest searching KZbin for 'Velomobiles Efficiency' and watching the video by Velomobile World to see why velomobiles make sense, either with or without e-assist.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын
Looking really nice compared to early versions.. Chains, should be set up with maintenance free belts for that price range. I also always thought it should have a full rain cover option. Cheers
@hudefuk
@hudefuk Жыл бұрын
Yup. Full rain cover with solar on top.
@matejlieskovsky9625
@matejlieskovsky9625 Жыл бұрын
​@@hudefuk nah, solar adds too much weight.
@ruslbicycle6006
@ruslbicycle6006 Жыл бұрын
A chain is low maintenance, cheaper and more repairable with that much enclosure . Most of chain maintenance is due to dirt exposure.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын
@@ruslbicycle6006 I think a properly set up belt is no maintenance. You are right about cost, most manufacturers go to or stay with chains to save cost. Repairable chains are, but a belt on a bike I think if you rode it 10 miles a day, every day for the rest of your life, I doubt it would wearout. Cheers
@azsqa6286
@azsqa6286 9 ай бұрын
I @@ruslbicycle6006 From my limited knowledge belts are lower-maintenance but a bit less efficient than chains.
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe Жыл бұрын
Getting ever closer to what I want. I wonder how this would be registered in the EU and UK? I like that they support right2repair, indicates that they might be a decent company.
@nc3826
@nc3826 Жыл бұрын
that's a point in their favor but shipping costs for parts tend to be costly, especially for any from across the pond....
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax Жыл бұрын
@@nc3826 true for any vehicle
@Hepsewind
@Hepsewind Жыл бұрын
If its under 25kph its a regular electric bike, since it can go over its a pedal electric.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
s @@nc3826 a very valid concern, this is part of the reason the Elecrom uses mostly off-the-shelf part that are available locally in most areas.
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe Жыл бұрын
@@nc3826 Well they said many parts are 'shop bought'.
@michaelthomas3646
@michaelthomas3646 Жыл бұрын
all I can see is the Sinclair C5 in the design of this bike, apart from height, length, and stability only having 2 wheels compaired with 3, but the plus side is the battery range in the passed 40 years.
@muhammadmulla5812
@muhammadmulla5812 Жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly. I came looking for your comment.
@FureyinHD
@FureyinHD 7 ай бұрын
Its the exact same idea, only the engineering is 100x better, as well as the tech available. And the time period too. In the 80s people were more than happy to commute in cars with cheap fuel.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
So, it's a Sinclair C5. Flag and pole optional.
@n4thb4dc0
@n4thb4dc0 Жыл бұрын
I would never buy this piece of junk, I'll stick to my NORMAL bike
@Thegeordiemonkey
@Thegeordiemonkey Жыл бұрын
Awful.
@patrickmike2524
@patrickmike2524 Жыл бұрын
Dime store looking version of Kaneda's bike. You're gonna have to have flags on that bike so people actually see you.
@coreyjameshaims449
@coreyjameshaims449 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking this is defo' a Kaneda bike vibe 😅 My battery would be flat in 5 mins with the green glowing leds I would be trying to power to look woooooooosh
@Mireaze
@Mireaze Жыл бұрын
My only question is can I slide it sideways
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 Жыл бұрын
​@@Mireaze Well, why not take a test drive/ride and find out for yourself instead of posing daft questions? Use some gumption lad!!!
@ascenttev6022
@ascenttev6022 Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate a fat tire version - awesome concept.🎉🎉
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou Жыл бұрын
Having had a face full of steering wheel before, this looks like it needs a bit more padding at the top of that windshield area.
@Pottery4Life
@Pottery4Life Жыл бұрын
Neat. Though as a tricycle I think it would be a lot easier and more fun to use. Yes - mass hit, range reduction yada yada.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 Жыл бұрын
Not that much of a hit… I reckon my velo is lighter than that… probably more efficient too
@martineyles
@martineyles Жыл бұрын
It was done years ago in the Sinclair C5, and yes, I think 3 wheels was better. The main advantage of this bike is the extra luggage space.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 Жыл бұрын
@@martineyles smaller - but more square - than a velo, which is completely enclosed (if I put the roof on)
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a "both, and" thing. A trike would be a great idea. The bike is a great idea. Doing both would be good. The low center of gravity means it would be pretty stable with two wheels in the back, the axle near the seat. I've built a chopper trike with a similar seat height as this and you could keep decent speed in turns. It was about 36 inches, a bit under a meter wide. As a bike rider, it was pretty uneventful when I pushed it to tip onto one rear wheel because it was predictable and easily controlled. This platform has a slightly lower seat than mine, I think, so even better. Even cooler would be a tilting trike but that's tricky on a lot of fronts.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
@@Kimoto504 There is the Carver machine which is already a tilting e-trike. (no pedals).
@loflog
@loflog Жыл бұрын
lol
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 Жыл бұрын
Never a fan of carbon fibre being used for things like this. Sure is lightweight but it's so labour intensive that it's never going to come cheap. Probably goes a long way to explaining the $12,500 price tag.
@ErinJWade
@ErinJWade Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Ricky! Recumbent trikes and velomobiles (which are usually trikes underneath) have covered a lot of this territory already. No kickstand, aerodynamics addressed, and weather protection available with fairings or full body coverings. Feels like the designer here might be reinventing the wheel.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
ErinJWade, I agree that Velomobiles are cool, but most are biased toward light weigh and aerodynamics as the main concerns. When you add electric power, the skinny tires and lightweight parts become less roadworthy. The Electrom has been designed from the ground up to be electric assist and as such is much more roadworthy a velomobile. Additionally, velomobiles are not great in the city as they are hard to see in traffic, and they suffer whenever to road gets rough. A big part of our determination to keep the Electrom on two wheels was the need to maneuver around potholes and other obstructions. On a two-wheel vehicle, the rear wheel follows the front, so it is very easy to steer around obstacles. Three-wheel vehicle drivers have to get three different tires around the obstruction.
@nathanbanks2354
@nathanbanks2354 Жыл бұрын
One of the problems with electric bikes is the 32km/h or 20mph speed limit for most jurisdictions. A good velomobile can overcome that using only human power...unless you have to start and stop all the time.
@shawing
@shawing Жыл бұрын
So someone watched Akira one too many times and decided to make a bicycle? 🤣 Jokes aside its interesting but i dont really get it. Why do i need a streamlined bike when most bike trips are for local running around, say less than 10 miles. Not sure weight/lean angle matters that much when you are stationary, and thats only an issue when stationary seemed like a little odd comparison made to a motorcycle. Oh and the idea that theyd ever get this down to a price thats "single figures" as you suggest in the vid description like $9 or less sounds ridiculous to me 🤣
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
4:53 i assuming that you are comparing this to like 1000cc motorcycle and i think that's kinda poor example. i think this is much more comparable to like 50cc motorcycle and those weight around 50-100kg maybe.
@menotyou1234
@menotyou1234 Жыл бұрын
No
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
I'm suspecting Ricky has never been on a recumbent before? 8:05 Not sure why he wouldn't trust bicycle tyres in general? I've had much scarier moped tyres than bike tyres, but obviously there is a big quality range in all tyre sizes and it is worth having some better tyres than 'cheapest' at least anywhere where it rains.
@palemale2501
@palemale2501 Жыл бұрын
A bit like the Sinclair C5 from 40 years ago, except better in every aspect, but only 2 wheels not 3.
@chriswatt2702
@chriswatt2702 Жыл бұрын
12k?? I could make one for about a quarter of the price. 2k for a new donor tadpole. 600 for the motorised crank and 400 for an 11 speed hub and wheel.
@martineyles
@martineyles Жыл бұрын
Not better in every aspect. I would sooner have 3 wheels than 2.
@philipjones2474
@philipjones2474 Жыл бұрын
​@@chriswatt2702looking forward to seeing your ptototype😅
@EdLrandom
@EdLrandom Жыл бұрын
Can it not be shorter, yes I'm spoiled by my EUC having a wheelbase of 0 and being able to turn in place but I can't imagine this being as maneuverable as a bike. I would like it as a long-distance motorcycle if it had more power being so aero makes sence on the highway.
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax Жыл бұрын
that is what it's designed for, yes.
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
At what point did the designer not notice how huge this is?
@gildardo
@gildardo 10 ай бұрын
It could be made shorter, but the design would be more intricate, ei expensive.
@Dragonx7100
@Dragonx7100 11 ай бұрын
Love the concept though and the reporting was spot on
@billd5332
@billd5332 Жыл бұрын
I keep looking at this and two issues come to me that could be addressed. Long wide V handlebars like my Burley Koosah would reduce cost, make steering very easy, and reduce fatigue. Some safety modification to the fairing in case of a crash.
@diyathomevn
@diyathomevn 10 ай бұрын
Very impressive. But I think it's great that you own it and don't hide it. That's why you're one of the best! Oh my God, It's amazing what you can achieve. Love everything you did with it. Glad you're back, love the videos Looks really nice compared to the original versions
@danielsz8222
@danielsz8222 Жыл бұрын
There are so many problems with this. I live in Budapest and I work as a bike delivery man. So I know how biking in cities are like. First: this is huge. The best part in cycling in cities is that it's practical. You can easily fit through very tiny spaces. You can slalom between cars in a traffic jam. You can easily turn it around if you have to and you can park anywhere. This "bike" is just too long and too heavy to do any of these. Especially too long in european cities where there are narrow streets. Second: the aerodynamics just doesnt make sense. I can easily do a 20-25 km/h average speed for a day with a regular bike. With an electric it's an easy 30 even 35. Maybe it's more aerodynamic but it's heavy af and the wheels are too thick and the diameter of theme is too small. You have to add more energy to make a wheel go if it's smaller. Third: it's bigger than a haul bike but it doesn't have the capacity. So a deliveryman cannot use it. So it's too big for cities, i'm pretty sure it almost has the same range and speed as a better ebike. So the only people who could use it are people in the country side who use it once or twice a year for a trip. But it's too expensive for a hobby like this. Honestly I have no idea why would anyone buy this. There much better and more cost effective options for using a bike.
@mv80401
@mv80401 Жыл бұрын
The price is okay. Sure, cheaper would be nice but my neighbors just shelled out $8700 for a 30% discounted Yeti e-bike - oh wait, they both bought one. And that's on top of other high end road and MTBs. My friend Nils in Aachen, Germany went car-free for the whole family, investing instead in high end e-transport bikes to move their two kids and a nifty velomobile. Point is: If you can manage not to own a car you have a ton of money left for bike transportation. Just think of the insurance, licensing and repair bills you don't have. And for those instances where you need a car many Germans now use car sharing rentals. I did when I spent a year there but it turned out it was rarely needed.
@christill
@christill Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely cool looking and fun. But for me, I think a two wheels at the front leaning design, which we’ve seen before in bikes (not just motorcycles and scooters) would be a better option. And I think you could replace the carbon fibre with a more sustainable material without increasing the weight too much. It feels like innovation for innovation’s sake when it could be simpler while still being smarter and more approachable to more people. It’s offering the combination of the comfortable recumbent design, with storage and a bit more aerodynamic consideration. But how important is aero on a bicycle for this purpose? I’d rather have the Velove designed recumbent with the big storage box on the back, or a regular cargo bike which is more stable and easier to ride, more sustainable, cheaper, and with much more storage.
@ruslbicycle6006
@ruslbicycle6006 Жыл бұрын
Yes if you're going in a city center. But I think this 200k range is for longer distance. The reviewer was wrong about the best application.
@christill
@christill Жыл бұрын
@@ruslbicycle6006 I agree that recumbent bikes are much more comfortable for long distances, and the bike looks a lot more suited to longer distances where you’re going faster and doing few tight turns. But I’d say there would still be other better options in basically every respect.
@dewexdewex
@dewexdewex Жыл бұрын
What would the fairing do to the rider in a direct front end collision? Would it flip up out of the way before the rider were thrown forwards?
@Section9.P.S
@Section9.P.S Жыл бұрын
Whoa , whoa , hold onto your horses there , average motorcycle 225 kgs , what utter B.S is that ? Eco bikes weight about 100 - 130 kgs and can do ,up to 120 miles per gallon, and if ( IF ) manufacturers put their minds to it , we could easily have recumbent 100 - 150 cc motorcycles doing 150 - 200 miles per gallon, it's these sensational videos that put me off " green " channels.
@swecreations
@swecreations Жыл бұрын
I mean if you're trying to compare a motorcycle with a similar design in terms of comfort and storage you'll have to look at cruisers, and they are definitely that heavy.
@Section9.P.S
@Section9.P.S Жыл бұрын
@@swecreations what I am saying is , if motorcycle companies used current tech , but in a recumbent chassis , we could easily have safe , fast and efficient eco two wheeled transport , small batteries have little range , a hybrid petrol recumbent is the answer at least for now
@nickwinn7812
@nickwinn7812 Жыл бұрын
225 kg is on the light side for the average modern motorbike I'd say as engine sizes have grown monsterously (but not performance usually). Sure some supersport bikes come in at less than 175kg but these are a small percentage of the bikes out there, with some cruiser styled 125s weighing close to that. what is an Eco bike?? Feet first motorbikes were pioneerd by Quasar in the UK in the mid 70s and proved that a low powered engine could give great performance,thanks to the aerodynamic advantage. Also they were apparently very protective of the rider in an accident. Getting off the line was a little awkward, but once underway they were rock steady according to road testers of the day, helped in part by the hub center steering, low centre of gravity and well positioned centre of pressure. Trouble is, hardly anyone wanted one. Several similar ventures have come and gone, always due to lack of sales. Why would mainstream manufacturers invest in what they know is an idea that is dead in the water? If anyone knows of a neglected Quasar lying in a barn somewhere - let me know I'll be there tomorrow!
@Section9.P.S
@Section9.P.S Жыл бұрын
@@nickwinn7812 the original quasar was leading link suspension, I think you ate thinking of Royce Cresleys Voyager, which was hub centre steering , but okay , consider this , hybrid petrol electric recumbent with Hossack steering/suspension, and light weight , say 150kgs , that's a winner, Abs / traction control/ airbag (?) , doable , but like you say , not necessarily sellable , but I would buy one
@dodgygoose3054
@dodgygoose3054 Жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! Akira here we come
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t properly explain the transmission, it is very clever. There is a low direct drive, but as soon as you get a bit of speed you are pedalling a generator.
@Grant.G.Simpson
@Grant.G.Simpson Жыл бұрын
i think the Sinclair C5 was 40 years too early....someone needs to bring that back from the dead, especially with battery /motor tech nowadays.
@sk8board44
@sk8board44 Жыл бұрын
The concept isn't new. But makes lots of sense to have the centre of gravity much lower.
@sixpackpilot
@sixpackpilot Жыл бұрын
Not a practical for daily use. Lots of space for the 'driver', not so much for cargo like with a real cargo bike of the same size/length. The speed also poses a problem: too fast for cyclepaths and too slow, low and vulnerable for car-traffic. I have seen multiple similar concepts in NL and none are common in daily traffic, in contrast to upright electric cargo bikes that are everywhere.
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake Жыл бұрын
$12.500, or the price of three fully road-legal electric mopeds. Good thing there's a sucker born every minute.
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 Жыл бұрын
For sure ! For a little more than half that price I could buy a brand new all the bells and whistles Honda 650 duel sport motorcycle . And I couldn’t even imagine what you could get for that price in another country.
@Foucault2001
@Foucault2001 Жыл бұрын
OK $12,500 won’t get you a Livewire but there’s plenty of choice of mopeds and motorbikes in the $5,000 to $12,500 range. Throw in that electric bikes are even cheaper and all are better suited to city life and it just feels a bit of an expensive niche product.
@fizban119
@fizban119 10 ай бұрын
It's like literally a handbuilt prototype having its production scaled up. Economies of scale reduce price over time, this is a guy in a garage trying to push an industry and the world forward. Give me a break. If you can't afford it you can't afford it.
@Knackebrot
@Knackebrot Жыл бұрын
I see this as more of a novel way to travel to remote places in the countryside (20-150km). There will be people that do this a lot and for those, thats an awesome EV! Hope it'll sell ;)
@ulwur
@ulwur Жыл бұрын
I'd take my Cake Makka every day before this. Faster, safer on a city street (head higher). And its so damn fun to ride.
@davidianmusic4869
@davidianmusic4869 Жыл бұрын
Kinda crazy, but it’s the vehicle I need. At times I’m doing 150k a day on my bike for for work, regular e-bikes won’t make it. That thing my off grid system could charge in a day. I expect it’s expensive, the Ferrari of e-bikes, but there’s huge capacity for sales of similar and more rugged versions. We need to make byway systems for light mid speed systems like these. And yes Vancouver is gorgeous, I just spent July there. It’s a great clean transport system. Their bus’s have been electric for 60 years.
@tommyfred6180
@tommyfred6180 Жыл бұрын
most car users don't see a bike. this thing is never going to be seen and riders are going to die.
@simonpannett8810
@simonpannett8810 Жыл бұрын
Still a bike that does not keep out the weather or offer safety and low speeds look a bit dangerous. Great one you are cruising and longer journeys??
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
maybe not the future of ebikes but maybe the future of motorcycles because with motorcycles the aerodynamics matter more.
@torashuPanda781
@torashuPanda781 11 ай бұрын
It would be easy to add a roof to protect from the rain in this sort of motorcycle. I'd like to see more of those too.
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 11 ай бұрын
​@@torashuPanda781I have a recumbent electric motorcycle that I built more than 30 years ago. Since I fitted a modern lithium battery holding about 13KWH it can do about 500 miles/800km on one charge, at 55mph/90km/h. Although in well over 100,000 miles/160,000km I have never made an insurance claim the insurance company (Aviva) has just withdrawn all cover for business use of the vehicle, and I cannot find another insurance company willing to insure it at all.
@EdouardTavinor
@EdouardTavinor Жыл бұрын
I think I'll stick with my velomobile. This looks pretty primitive compared with a quattrovelo, a bülk, or an M9. Recumbents are in general much safer than upright bikes (about 90% of recumbents have three wheels - two wheelers are a rarity).
@domramsey
@domramsey Жыл бұрын
That just looks unstable, and he's all over the road at low speeds. Love electric bikes, but this is a big fat no from me!
@Anomalous-Plant
@Anomalous-Plant 6 ай бұрын
Love it!
@horiasantorini8744
@horiasantorini8744 8 ай бұрын
I'm just loving e v e r y t h i n g in this video.............. The electrom vehicle, design, features, look, concept and the professional coolio presentation.. Thinking of geting one!
@theproffessional9
@theproffessional9 Жыл бұрын
Insane how I was just watching a video about Velo mobiles and this appeared in my notifications.
@Chriss_Workshop
@Chriss_Workshop Жыл бұрын
I genuinely like the look of the bike and would want to get one. But like most products i see here in the ebike market, i cant seem to find them in the US.
@templeofleila
@templeofleila Жыл бұрын
Every recumbent designer needs to incorporate the center hub steering from the Honda elf.. Forks are so 20th century
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy Жыл бұрын
Cool, though I wish electric motorcycles would think more outside the box like this.
@GingerPiston
@GingerPiston Жыл бұрын
Look up Peraves MonoRacer or the Carver electric trike (and theres an FC episode about the latter)
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE Жыл бұрын
Buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee 85kg light EV motorcycle or 6k 2025 KTM Duke 390 or 5k Triumph 400X Scrambler or 6k Suzuki SV 650 (nearly indestructible reliability) over the Electrom1.
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy Жыл бұрын
@@GingerPiston these are also cool, especially the Carver with the tilt technology. Certainly leans closer to what I had in mind. I mean I think a design like Akira with the range of touring motorcycles.
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy Жыл бұрын
@@THEREALZENFORCE these are mostly very traditional in design and not impressive. It's cool if you want a tiny bike that doesn't look like an ev or the future, but I want more
@Travlinmo
@Travlinmo Жыл бұрын
I think if I was on a trail and this was coming up on me… I would think a motorcycle was coming up.
@Naultarous
@Naultarous Жыл бұрын
Interesting. But I think you missed a big area, legality. Bike, Ebike, motorcyle, ... license needed or no. Very important to note these for buyers.
@billd5332
@billd5332 Жыл бұрын
I have an old Burley long wheel base recumbant that seems way more stable than what you are showing. I could add a hub motor setup and a fairing pretty easily. The riding position on the Burley is great for me except when climbing big hills without electric assist.
@nc3826
@nc3826 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you became an expert rider in under 4 hours.... Thanks for such an objective comparison....
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax Жыл бұрын
the Burley doesn't have the cargo capacity, and it's higher than this. So your comment about stability can't be correct.
@iainjohnston4929
@iainjohnston4929 Жыл бұрын
Fully charged vids are great but I’ve not seen many reviews that are ever objective. How do you park this, it’s heavy to drag into you flat/garage/shed, charge it, can you remove the battery, turning circle/hill starts look horrific, are the pedals just turning a generator- none of these aspects are clear?
@jonathanf.9395
@jonathanf.9395 Жыл бұрын
I don't see that as a solution for a city at all. Obviously it is meant for commutes of 10 miles or more.
@KuroSanArts
@KuroSanArts Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't ride that around central London, you need both decent slow speed control and fast getaways in city traffic and this appears to have neither! It's an interesting design, but I think it would be better suited to touring or deliveries in less dense areas. I'd have no problem with taking one of those for a camping weekend somewhere.
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE Жыл бұрын
In Central London either buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee 85kg light Ev motorcycle or 6k 2025 KTM Duke 390 or Triumph 400X Scrambler or Suzuki SV 650 (nearly indestructible reliability).
@jamesmurphy9704
@jamesmurphy9704 Жыл бұрын
Slow speed control is a matter of practice - and maybe a bit of refinement of the steering. Fairly clear from the video that he hadn't entirely worked out the boundaries of the bike. Fast getways... that's probably practice too. I doubt an experienced rider would use the stand much - though I'd have to try to be sure. By far the biggest problem in a city is the length, not necessarily so much when riding but when parking - anything longer than a standard upright (bike with trailer, tandem, cargo bike, my speedmachine...) creates challenges as it doesn't as easily fit in bike spaces and that thing is *long*. Actually there are cases when that length maybe a problem navigating gates and things too... one can't alway limbo - but again the same constraints apply to the list of bikes as above.
@Alby_Torino
@Alby_Torino 11 ай бұрын
In the EU this is not considered an e-bike, so you definitely need an insurance and a license plate.
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart Жыл бұрын
No… Because cyclings utterly deadly and most have got the sense to avoid it
@solexxx8588
@solexxx8588 Жыл бұрын
An e-bike is much more useful than this. You can only go 32kph with a maximum 500 watt motor on an ebike in Canada or you need a license and insurance. This thing is just dumb.
@briankavanagh7191
@briankavanagh7191 Жыл бұрын
Looks like Sir Clive Sinclair had it right all those years ago with the C5
@kz15666
@kz15666 Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept but i don't see a market for it. as batteries are becoming more powerful, a good "normal" bike with an electric support motor will do the job ,. you don't need the streamline (and this will not keep jou dry either.)
@dailyrider2975
@dailyrider2975 Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen video yet, but one glaring problem. Road bike with shocks, does not need SPOKES!!!!!!!! Gas road scooter, road motorcycles don't have them, WHY DO BIKES!!!! So frigging sick of spokes and repairing them. I have min 35,000 US miles on bikes, probably closer to 50,000. I am sick of spokes!
@nerdexproject
@nerdexproject Жыл бұрын
I mean, srsly, this is an amazing vehicle! But I would love it to cover you from (light/moderate) rain. (At least optional.) I hope we see many more bikes like this in the future! Love the concept for sure! :D
@ruslbicycle6006
@ruslbicycle6006 Жыл бұрын
It already does. Unless you are stationary there is only rain on your head
@EPeltzer
@EPeltzer 10 ай бұрын
Tell me again what this does better than a conventional e-bike? I mean it is a nice design and intriguing in many ways, but you can get a normal e-bike that does everything this does, only weighs 40 lb. and will cost about a 10th as much. If you need more range on a conventional e-bike you could simply add another battery. Biggest drawback to this is it's absolutely enormous, yet still can only carry one person. Couldn't the wheelbase at least be shorter? Conventional bikes you can carry up flights of stairs, get in an elevator, store in a hallway, put four of them on a car bike rack etc etc etc.
@nomsi4263
@nomsi4263 Жыл бұрын
More people wanting the Akira bike
@TassieEV
@TassieEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ricky!! Vancouver is definitely an amazing city although I prefer Victoria just across the way via the ferry but what an amazing bike or is it e-bike.
@dailyrider2975
@dailyrider2975 Жыл бұрын
11:30 "Unless you want to be changing brake pads all the time" Indicates to me they are using bicycle brake pads, 150cc Motorcycle brakes and pads would last forever and pads are probably cheaper. Again bike parts are not good for EVs and expensive.
@JohnReiher
@JohnReiher Жыл бұрын
I see why Ricky was hesitant in saying how much it is. $12,500! My Tern FSD Cargo Bike only ran $4,400. Yikes!
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE Жыл бұрын
A used Honda Rebel 500 is 3k
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne Жыл бұрын
There are so many of these concepts and none of them ever succeeded . 🤷‍♂
@electraelpindrai1964
@electraelpindrai1964 Жыл бұрын
I thought about buying one of these, and then learned it costs 10 grand
@taureansdiy2132
@taureansdiy2132 Жыл бұрын
Did you mention that it's a dual motor or an all wheel drive? 😊
Жыл бұрын
I have a driven a recumbent bicycle some years ago and it is my favourite type bicycle. But is not so good in tight city situations.
@MrWilliamsburr
@MrWilliamsburr Жыл бұрын
sorry to obsess into your privacy, I need freelancers for my project retyping document MS word into PDF file
@artboymoy
@artboymoy Жыл бұрын
Neat. So if you keep pedaling are you recharging the battery at all or is is just used to get more power and speed from the motor?
@KorbenDallas
@KorbenDallas 10 ай бұрын
Yes.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Жыл бұрын
That looks like fun. One thing I didn't see on it was any security features, locks alarms, immobiliser etc. How accessible is it for different body shapes? Is there seat and controls adjustment? Great concept though, I need a recumbent bike for my disabilities, I ride an e-bike on a good day but energy would last longer in a recumbent position. Of course I'd need somewhere to store it and a shed load of cash I expect, haven't looked yet! Cheers Ricky, nice report.👍
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
the Electrom has an an ignition key and if one wishes one can use the same security devices as a bike/motobike. locks, disk brake locks, alarms, etc.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 Жыл бұрын
@@electrom_LEV thanks, didn't notice it had an ignition key.👍
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto 9 ай бұрын
Very cool concept, however, electric unicycles are still way ahead in term of simplicity, price and weight, i have a Veteran Sherman-S euc that also have a 200km range with 3600wh battery, top speed up to 80 km/h, weights only 97lbs, it's so small that you can fit in any car trunk (i have a Smart Fortwo), it can fully charge in about two hours and cost about 4000$ US Of course it doesnt have huge trunk or wind protection but its so fun to ride !
@djburland
@djburland Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Sinclair
@jheyzbondmoto-klista6856
@jheyzbondmoto-klista6856 8 ай бұрын
If I ever win the lottery, I'll get 5 of them!
@martineyles
@martineyles Жыл бұрын
The Sinclair C5 was better, because with 3 wheels it was actually stable.
@B_T_B
@B_T_B Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing!!
@philipjones2474
@philipjones2474 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe all the reverence for the C5 here. I thought it was an abomination and a sick joke by Sinclair.
@martineyles
@martineyles Жыл бұрын
@@philipjones2474 I'm not saying the C5 is the greatest thing ever made, but it's an improvement on this. It doesn't need a kickstand at the lights, because it is stable on its 3 wheels, and therefore suits the recumbent position better for restarting. If you think the C5 is an abomination or a sick joke, the. Surely this must be worse!
@philipjones2474
@philipjones2474 Жыл бұрын
@@martineyles I just could see no merit at all in the C5 when it came out, after a massive amount of Sinclair hype. This invention is unusual and probably too imperfect for mass sales but it has presence on the road it's rather higher than the C5, it can go further and faster and it's had some serious design thought put into it. I don't see it merits the derision it's getting here and I would certainly fancy my survival chances better on this than Sinclair's offering. But I doubt I'll ever think it's value for money lol. I'm with you there
@ScotsWhaHae
@ScotsWhaHae Жыл бұрын
So, stop quickly, the rider’s head shoots forward and down and he instantly loses head, nose, teeth (take your pick) on that wonderful fairing edge! Eco weight reduction!
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
the fairing has no edge, it has a flexible rounded surface and is quire unlikely to chop your head off. check out 9:25 in the video for a closer look
@tongmovies
@tongmovies 10 ай бұрын
In a frontal collision, you’re going to lose your head. If the shield was curved up above your head, then you have a chance to survive, but it wouldn’t be as aerodynamic or good looking.
@adddude7524
@adddude7524 Жыл бұрын
The price isn't even that insane for the stage it is at. Way out of my price range still, but if it starts to compete with other recumbent e-bikes, this will definitely the winner!
@Konischiwa
@Konischiwa Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the bike from Akira
@frozenyogurtist
@frozenyogurtist Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I've always fancied a recumbent bike and this is a brilliant take on the idea. In my humble opinion of course! :-)
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 Жыл бұрын
Recumbent tadpole trike would be better.
@user-hf7jp2lt5x
@user-hf7jp2lt5x Жыл бұрын
It ought to go well, it has 7x the battery capacity of my e-bike. I would be looking to approx 300 mile range with a similar battery size.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV Жыл бұрын
Actually RIcky made a slight error there, the battery is 2.8KWH, not 3.8KWH
@yips_way
@yips_way Жыл бұрын
I'll say good luck - that thing is going to need all the luck it can get.
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and walk through
@OldManTony
@OldManTony Жыл бұрын
There is a reason motorcycles have the throttle and front brake both operated by the right hand mainly so you aren’t operating them at the same time!
@cheungs7
@cheungs7 10 ай бұрын
I'd recommend you do a piece on Gogoro in Taiwan and their eScooters and their battery subscription plans and battery swap service.
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE Жыл бұрын
"The Future of Two Wheel Riding Is In Recline!" recline cycles exist for years, almost nobody buys them. Cannot beat a 2kEVbicyle or a 6k Suzuki SV650 or 2024 KTM Duke 390, 7k Surron Ultra Bee EV moto with a recline 10k Electrom. For 10k you can buy : Yamaha MT-09, Triumph Speed Twin 900 or Speed 660, Honda CB650R, why much more versatile and fun. For EV fans that live in cities buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee, it is already better than the Electrom will ever be.
@pauld7827
@pauld7827 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that is a death trap...
@user-to2rf1rj5v
@user-to2rf1rj5v Жыл бұрын
Weird. An electric scooter, or motorcycle is far better than this awkward thing.
@marsrover001
@marsrover001 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic long haul bike.
@mv80401
@mv80401 Жыл бұрын
This would be perfect for touring remote places like New Zealand where you often go 150km between settlements. Or across North America's plains with its demoralizing head winds.
@ThePreacherman9
@ThePreacherman9 8 ай бұрын
They should do an akira bike remake limited edition
@charangohabsburg1
@charangohabsburg1 10 ай бұрын
Love it and I don't think it is extremely expensive for what it is 👍 but certainly too much to appeal the greater public. Unfortunately, with about 150 pounds / 70 kg it seems to be too heavy to be solely muscle powered uphill (with my non-electrified recumbents and velomobiles I get farther than that per day, up to about 300 km).
@4evermetalhead79
@4evermetalhead79 Жыл бұрын
The “Stop burning stuff”… ad?! Or whatever it is, is irritating. Who can decide what is and isn’t misinformation? And why would you want people to pay the price for it? “Misinformation” is the new buzz word. I’m all for better cleaner environmental solutions, but this is kind of annoying. Let people do their own research and create their own conclusions. None needs no one feeding them what they should and shouldn’t trust.
@geoffshelley2427
@geoffshelley2427 Жыл бұрын
They've taken the recumbent bicycle and pimped it out to the excessive extreme. The peddles are pretty much useless decorations (and so as to call it a bike to avoid standard vehicle status requirements). $12,000? that's almost half the way to an Aptera. It's even one-third of the way to a Model 3 (after incentives). Too much. Look for this company to go bankrupt and the vehicle to go nowhere (in the fashion of electra meccanica).
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