This Electric E36 Makes 850 lb/ft of Torque at the Wheels! - /TUNED

EV West isn't like other electric car builders. They aren't trying to save the planet from gasoline emissions, they are trying to build race cars using electric technology for events that can best use that technology. The Pikes Peak International Hillclimb, with a total driving distance of under 20 miles at very high elevation, is one of those events. We take their Pike's Peak M3 to the dyno to find out what 400 Kilowatts means in Horsepower, then to see how it drives.

[@MrTay675]

I wouldn't miss the sound. 850 ft lbs of instant torque will quench my thirst just fine.

[@Hole_Motorsports]

Rather have 850hp and some nice turbo lag. Nothing like roasting tires at 80 lmao

[@chrisbleurgh7425]

I think you'll need to try both, first.

[@dustinspringmeier]

You can still roast the tires at 80 with electric, and then again at 100, then at 120 haha. Couldn't with most gas engines.

[@MicroageHD]

It still only has 340hp. A 500hp+ petrol car would smash it to pieces.

[@josephwilliams7180]

Microage Electric engine use there horsepower differently than petrol engines. Without the rotation of so many belts and pulleys it can benefit from better with instant torque and hp. It might possibly compete with higher hp petrols more fairly.

[@JL-dz8sj]

People with e36s should just do this to their cars so I can have their S50/S52 to put in my E30 lmao

[@TheBeli]

+Jesse LaRock S50/S52 sound is the best!

[@defooraap]

+ Veljko Belic Besides s54b32, S50/S52 sound is the best! ^ fixed.

[@LintLoaf01]

"You don't really know how fast you're going until it's time to slow down." Words to live by

[@rcdieselrc]

I want an electric E36. 400kW is about 536HP, that's enough.

[@rcdieselrc]

It would be better with an AC motor like the Tesla, but it's still plenty. I don't need a supercar.

[@LoliKami]

***** 850 ft/lb of torque is insane...takes off like a rollercoaster

[@rcdieselrc]

***** Right, it's only power to weight ratio that matters.

[@rcdieselrc]

***** Which is exactly why only power matters. As far as acceleration it's power to weight ratio, assuming you have traction.

[@rcdieselrc]

***** Fundamentally power to weight. The reality of gears, shifting, and efficiency loss is unavoidable.

[@Irishluckily]

IMO I don't care what propels a car; as long as it is decently quick and/or handles like a boss. You people need to be grateful that others are willing to take a challenging route to be different.

[@donaldkenne3776]

Anthony Rs That one did have manual steering and nearly 4000 lbs of car. Not exactly easy on the handling front. At least when it comes to getting it to turn.

[@ralphinator2]

Donald Kenne Only at low speed in the parking lot. Power steering is useless at high speeds.

[@Irishluckily]

You said it. That 4k lbs will go down as battery tech increases. These people should partner with tesla. They have the perfect combination minus the price tag

[@donaldkenne3776]

Anthony Rs That will require a while yet I imagine unless more people start pushing it. Right now it is a small crowd working on those things. Still, batteries are such a huge part of the weight sadly. Tesla has open patents for people interested in manufacturing EVs. So it wouldn't exactly require a partnership. However, I do not think their business type would qualify for that bit.

[@Irishluckily]

Donald Kenne Yeah, I agree. We shall wait and see.

[@maxideath01]

400KW are 543Hp actually..

[@MTLJack]

+Fierce Recognition that's good to know , thanks. I really didnt know that lol

[@mariyuso]

+Fierce Recognition What? A kilowatt is an SI unit of power, horsepower is also a unit of power, although a supplementary one to the SI. HP and kW are directly proportional, 1 HP = 0.745 kW.

[@lukassutherland6095]

If you didn't give a fuck you wouldn't have come on here saying that stupid shit in the first place, you fucking spoon.

[@proofofpurchase747]

+Lukas Sutherland 👍

[@dadaniel2k11]

+Fierce Recognition Well you should give a fuck if you try to explain something... Spitting out made up shit defies the purpose of explaining something.

[@TheSmokingTire]

yep, that one stays in the "never sell" department.

[@TheSmokingTire]

thank you for understanding, and eloquently re-stating what I was trying to get at.

[@NSUScooter]

7:00 “just throw it into 2nd and go” I would LOVE to see the acceleration of this thing from 1st to 5th on a freeway

[@MrHucker09]

So this guy doesn't like to 'shift', and he doesn't know that 1hp is 0.76kW, he thinks an M3 weights 2200lbs rather than 3200lbs, and he doesn't seem to be interested in this awesome future tech. How did he get this job? Electric is the future, bring it on.

[@AMCguy]

he said 3200

[@tevitaphillips3196]

yeah but this thing has a shit ton of batteries, so it would way a bit more.

[@tevitaphillips3196]

and when he means not having to shift he means he likes how its immense torque and powerglide transmission go together. If I'm right it would have long gears, so it just uses the electric motors torque.

[@marcuscoster6529]

Hahaha love how the car is flying at 7:02

[@basomelkonyanc5435]

R.I.P. Nikola Tesla

[@OwnageProductions03]

Hmmmmmmmmmm. 400kw is 535 horsepower.

[@wangruochuan]

i dont know why people are so against electric cars. as long as it runs fast and looks nice i will go with it

[@anhiirr]

electric vehicles in general, those electric (motor?)cycles seem like a huge stroke of genius, the weight distribution, and power recharge capability per "deceleration" since the throttle appears as a speed modulator that functions like a volume switch....

[@brodyshaw6307]

I think when people hear "electric cars" the image that pops up in their mind are cars like the Prius or the leaf. So they automatically assume it's a slow electric car.

[@kristiansndergaard6668]

brody shaw to be honest it's just the lack of sound... The entire feel of being in a motor vehicle as we know it. I know we can't keep driving gas swallowers for fun, but I'll just miss the roar of such a vehicle. Also... There's really no difference to the sound of different electric cars. There's no personality in those cars. Cars in the future will lose what we car lovers call soul. Don't get me wrong. I'm all in for progress, but this will feel like a real sacrifice to me.

[@wangruochuan]

Kristian Søndergaard nope. there are people love performance like me and people who love down pipes and muffler like you. oh you think cars in the past have soul and personality? i bet porsche 918 has a lot of souls

[@bryan1693]

Kristian Søndergaard have you ever driven/ridden an electric vehicle? there is fucking sound. its on an entirely new level. it sounds like you are flying a fucking spaceship. sounds way better than a lot of these obnoxious gas exhausts

[@_pacalis]

Love hearing the resistance from old school petrolheads. They see first hand the amazing performance of EVs yet they still find something that bothers them about it.

[@ZeHoSmusician]

I don't understand that guy's complaint about the engine noise with regards to racing. Going to a race track to watch cars do laps is technically a mind-numbing experience, I don't care what noises the engines make. The main reason to go is for the competitive side, and see who wins, and/or see who has the most impressive crashes. Racing EVs does not defeat any purpose (like he claims at around 6:50).

[@shiffterCL]

ZeHoSmusician Then you dont understand his reasoning. He loves the noise, the sound of 30 engines at 8k rpm. You like it or you dont i suppose. He said he was in the middle about the car anyway, yes its a good thing they are developing racing batteries but is it fun to watch? fun to drive? questionable.

[@jayjaygolden5123]

@@shiffterCL recent developments in racing ev's show theres more potential for noise than one might think.

[@Gelato41_]

No exhaust notes??

[@deusexaethera]

Only people in North America don't know what kilowatts are.

[@deusexaethera]

***** I'm aware.

[@Wojciech940]

+Kevin Bacon HP measurement is more popular than KW also in Europe.

[@macsogandares8383]

+Shawn Elliott people over here know, nobody has any sense of scale though. The only people who actually need numbers in terms of KW are people dealing with generators or anything that runs off of a series hybrid.

[@mewwew411]

+Shawn Elliott its true

[@Wojciech940]

roberto OBRIJANU Speaking about stupidity, does comprehension the difference between "too" and "to" is so difficult? Don`t insult, it`s not cool.

[@vivalaphill]

this was just sad you argue against a car because it defeats the purpose of going to the track? what is the purpose? hearing dat 409? some just want to race their cars on a track and have fun

[@justforever96]

Yes, and for most people who LIKE cars a HUGE part of the fun is listening to an engine scream at high rpm's, the feel the mechanical marvel of pistons and connecting rods reciprocating like a sewing machine 100 times per second. It gives you goose bumps. Hearing the exhaust note sing. Gliding around a track in a silent car hearing the tires squealing is not exactly the same thrill...and like he said, "it's a lot faster than it feels!"...the thrill is FEELING like you're going fast, not actually going fast. Also, "409's" were only used in a very few certain large Chevy cars for a few years in the early 60's. The few remaining cars are collectors items now and don't see much track time. I don't think listening to "dat 409" is an issue for 99.99% of people.

[@vivalaphill]

justforever96 its personal preference, some like hearing engine sounds(probably almost everyone) but for some its fun to manage their car into the apex, and launch it out of the corner. it might be a "hipster" thing but maybe it makes them feel better to have the newest and most ecological technology of transportation in their race car.

[@flipakine]

I'm pretty certain that particular statement was directed at the spectator. not the driver. because you're obviously correct in this sense but as someone who went to a race to watch. the lack of exhaust note is equally as obvious..

[@sagawa_kuristina]

vivalaphill Plus when oil runs out in 50 some odd years (At current consumption rate, that grows every day) this electric stuff is going to be great... I always used to worry about that. I would be so sad to see Motorsports be gone. Then seeing how people are actually making good strong power plants with electricity in cars, I'm happy as hell =) I might not even be around for the that time to come, but just knowing people are paving the way for future oilless people to still have Motorsports, I'm all grins

[@earthwizz]

+Mashiro Ainsworth You needn't worry, motor sport will just get better. Already the fastest vehicles up Pike's Peak are electric and, judging by development so far, within 5 years the fastest bikes around the Isle of Mann will be electric. As emotionally attached to the noise we might be, given we grew up with them, we will get used to and revel in the lack of noise particularly since we'll have way better performance.

[@vanPoll]

5:54 These "weird space noises" are exactly the same sounds as you can find on any electric forklift.

[@rooklink]

Or rc cars.

[@ZCherish]

The idea behind developing electrics for performance is that battery weight, while currently significantly higher than an ICE setup, will inevitably go much lower if there is consumer demand for the research thereof. We have had over a century developing ICE motors; this is relatively new mass produced tech. Give it just a decade. You'll be amazed.

[@christophercastilaw3157]

how much would a full conversion cost? that's what I wanna know!!

[@lenardgor]

a car guy should know what kW means

[@mrglasecki]

Personally I would like to See an All electric globally race, not so much against petrol, that's a blow out, but with engineering modifications like Hemp bodies and chassis

[@MrMaxitaple]

Interesting

[@steveauguste4498]

This is like a precursor into the future! I'm excited about that! We should be using corn oil by now to run cars! Keep up the ingenuity!

[@remusfillis1]

this car is a leap in electrical race cars. It setup could have been done to give you a very close drive to the internal combustion engine rivals but it is a good start to all EV's. Now I also want one. If my wife reads this, now you know what I want for my bday.

[@banshee511]

I wish they had said more about the batteries...

[@ao2528]

I understand this is a race car, but I'm interested to know about the normal driving range with fully charged batteries.

[@billyshattered]

And how it is built along with the price of the components.

[@romeah5697]

Art O I think I read somewhere that the range is under 100 miles, because it is a racecar, it is not meant for a casual conservative commute.

[@jaggafeen]

@@romeah5697 probably far less if you push it really hard on track and takes hours to recharge

[@Djkommode]

My only let down is we didn't get to see any display of performance besides the dyno...

[@mrmidnight32]

+Tn Bui Probably because every 45 min they have to recharge the dam thing.

[@Djkommode]

He was cruising didn't even try to display any power

[@Triplejracing]

I think it is because that amazing loud sound we have become used to is part of the driving experience. When you put your foot down and you hear that sound it makes you feel something that the electric motor just cant. I'm all for the development of electric cars, but, I don't think they will ever be quite as exciting for me.

[@TheMidnightBandit]

An electric DeLorean with these performance figures, with perhaps slight cosmetic upgrades, would be friggn cool.

[@nikosingh8549]

7:04...is it floating?

[@nezerac]

Let's be real. You really didn't get to uncork that thing.

[@tc3sean]

I wonder why they could not put a limiter into the motor controller to prevent 100% of the motors output to be delivered when the m3's speed is 0, or transmission is in first gear to prevent drive line shock, or to allow the motor to ramp up over set time, rather than full on

[@NymphPower]

I love this spaceship noise!

[@con3dbz]

"what i like about EV west is that they aren't trying to save the planet" AMERICAAAAA FUCK YEAAAAAAAAHHHH

[@SeverdSeouL]

So you are telling me that with all the sophisticated emissions systems on modern cars, cars are still the No.1 polluter in the world? Not factories, power plants or corporations? If CO2 emissions are such a problem, why can't we just plant more trees? Do trees not convert CO2 into oxygen? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@_droid]

As far as motors go, electrics generally win performance-wise over ICE in almost every way. Right now the problem with electric is the power storage. Current battery technology _sucks_ compared to the amount of energy in fossil fuel. I get the dislike for lack of engine noise, etc but the fact is, if energy storage improves enough (light weight, more power) then I believe we will reach a point to where if you want to win races you will need to be electric. Younger generations will probably even grow to love whatever sounds those cars make better than the old ICE powered vehicles.

[@_droid]

***** Which is what I said. Read my comment again carefully. As I said, power storage is the limiting factor with electric motors and why they can't match the energy (ie. performance) in fossil fuels. Current batteries are too heavy and hold too little power. This isn't a limitation of electric motor themselves though.

[@_droid]

***** fuel: alcohol, fossil, batteries is all the same. They are an energy storage mechanism. How that energy is applied is what matters and all combustion engines are _way_ less efficient than an electrical motor (more moving parts, combustion losses, etc). Consider typical combustion engines can't even break 40% efficiency at their very best and are generally _much_ worse whereas electric motors can go over 90% using current technology and are lighter. All electric needs is a superior energy storage mechanism and combustion will be dead (whether or not that will ever happen, I don't know).

[@YaBoiiiNikki]

I think that if an electric car can be sporty,reliable and doesn't need to be charged every second, it would be awesome,i'd definitely buy one. Said from a 2-stroke rider.

[@HeinrichErnst1]

sorry to correct this: air conductivity gets lower at higher at higher altitude due to lower density. The problem is less cooling capacity due to less density. That effects electric motors, but you are right that ICE suffers more from thinner air due to less performance in burning - greets from an electric driver from germany

[@yamirussi9283]

THE FUCKING OIL WONT LAST FOREVER!!! PEOPLE

[@Ferrexx]

neither will you

[@stevencorrea9722]

fracking oil earthquake everyday Oklahoma Kansas because of the fracking of the oil

[@SouthTexasGhostRider]

I knew the anti-frac morons were coming....

[@placerdemaio]

Ferrexx Dont be selfish friend, this will accelerate the life quality of many, and that matters.

[@ExoticOption3]

You don't necessarily need oil to produce fuel for ICEs. It can be made from coal as well. Without even considering the straightforward option of an E85 conversion.

[@southshore516]

What's not to like? Everyone who talks shit on EVs seems to think that they'll somehow replace internal combustion across the board. Never gonna happen in any our lifetimes. Both can peacefully coexist as gas, diesel, OHV, OHC, Vee, inline, horizontally opposed, rotary, 4-stroke, 2-stroke, auto, manual, dual-clutch, turbo, supercharged, front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, all wheel drive, etc. ad infinitum have all co-existed for the last hundred years or so...

[@rambow70]

"We arn't here to save the plant" Sees flipflops and chuckles

[@ziggy748]

I'm pretty confident that people who create electric cars will eventually install a digital sound effects to imitate a sound of fuel driven engines, so people shouldn't worry about that. Hybrid and electric cars are the future and step forward to a greener earth.

[@SamuelNoallZamad]

What I don't understand is why I looks like it has pod filters in the engine bay. Anyone know what there are?

[@moe123niner]

I assume they are normal filters just to keep the dust and dirt out of the electric motor.

[@SamuelNoallZamad]

That would make sense. keeping air for cooling, clean.

[@XxSuperModzxX]

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[@sbdr.1241]

i love to see peoples faces/reactions when they roll up in a 500hp loud mouthing gas engine & get whooped by an electric car, suckn amps..checkout white zombie electric car.

[@7privet_]

i like bmw e36s but i dont like electric cars without sound because i almost got killed by a prius, i didnt hear it going aroud the corner

[@gtaivclips6664life]

Should have been watching..

[@lewicas]

Within the next five years it will be mandatory for electric and hybrid vehicles to make some sort of sound or use of an acoustic Vehicle Alerting System.

[@7privet_]

Vesuvius Lee i know this one sounds like a rc car but im talking about the prius because you cant hear it when walking in a loud city

[@gtaivclips6664life]

Whether it's an rc car or monster truck, i dont care. If I was deaf I'd be able to get around no problem. All I have to do is pay attention and look, not text or dig in my cunt as im driving.

[@SD-tj5dh]

Most new cars (especially petrol/gasoline) make next to no discernable sound difference in busy urban areas. It really is a case of you making sure the road is always clear and the driver always looking out for pedestrians on the road. I cannot account for the blind, you just might get through a few guide dogs in your life time...

[@Rmccarty455]

The air filter is for the blower that cools the rotor. Electric cars are in the model-T stage right now. I can't imagine what's down the road (pun)

[@wrighttool]

I have seen this car in person they really did some quality work on this car .these guy are just north of san diego

[@ThePostal67]

I have a 2012 Prius... Two things, you are not saving the environment, that electric might come from COAL.. And second, for those missing the sound.. Not a problem I fixed up a bracket to hold playing cards in the spokes.. Great sound now..

[@JayaKumarToo]

Internal combustion engine only 20% efficient, thermal plants are 80% efficient and some percentage comes from the renewable source

[@stefanmarraccini8646]

This guy's opinions are lame. If you're a car guy, and love speed and competition, you'll get over losing the internal combustion sound effects and smells. And there is a whole new world of sounds and smells in the electric world. In the end it's about driving.

[@hs4165]

gotta love the burning electric smell

[@deadbolt9019]

Dual clutch is already starting to take over manual transmissions.

[@TurboMitsubishi]

His complaints are legit, tires only have so much grip to give. The added weight limits breaking and corning ability, period.

[@TurboMitsubishi]

There is a difference between sports cars, and race cars. Race cars, it doesn't matter what the driver likes, it matters what makes him faster, to you and me, in a sports car, the fun is a very big factor. A standard manual will always be more fun and engaging. But that doesn't mean faster. Driving enthusiast will NOT like losing that. Note, some of the fastest street cars, are not the most fun street cars.

[@joedockstader1347]

"The added weight limits breaking and corning ability, period." What you fail to understand is that electric cars do not necessarily have to be heavier than their gas equivalents. The main cause for the misconception of "inevitable weight addition" has generally come from the fact that batteries have had a much lower energy density than gasoline. However, that fails to take into account the fact that your average gas engine has 20% thermal efficiency, maxing out around 30%. Electric motors are much more efficient, significantly reducing the amount of total stored energy you need to carry, not to mention the weight reduction in the drive-train that electric power allows. (or the fact that modern electric motors have better power/weight ratios than any gasoline engine could ever achieve). In fact, even with current-gen technology using Li-ion batteries that have lower energy density than gasoline, if you have two full drive systems (gas tank/battery all the way to wheels) with the same power and range, you see two things between the two: first, the electric system will have roughly twice the torque of the otherwise equivalent gas system. Second, the electric system (remember, we're talking battery all the way to wheels) will actually weigh slightly LESS than the equivalent gas system, and that's with current technology. There are many battery chemistries currently going into test production that actually have better power density than gasoline. I AGREE that added weight limits cornering and braking ability, but what you don't seem to understand is that electric cars do not have to necessarily, or even generally weigh more than their gas equivalents. Your argument would have made sense in 2003, but not anymore. Sorry.

[@edwardcphipps]

If its anything like remote control cars, nitro engines are fun and louud and cool but electric ones are alot faster and in my opinion more fun to some extent i think the bmw deserves more credit. the dude that built the car must have spent ages on it !! you guys rock fuck the gay host who doesn't like it.

[@JesusGarcia123456789]

The captions say "CAR ENGINE REVVING" LOL

[@intervu3573]

the under body/under carriage shots are great! Nice to see hard to see details from the conversion.Dash shots around 3:00 mark are slick!

[@richystar2001]

1.50 $ a litre in Canada now for Regular Unleaded. No end insight as gas is becoming an economic braking force to the recession recovery. Countries that want to move forward from Oil dependence better move fast before there is no money to invest towards EV's. Electric vehicles should be subsidized by governments to make up for lagging technologies until systems progress. If we get trapped by peak oil the Middle class will disappear.

[@SupramanTRD]

love the idea of electric cars not because I care about the environment, honestly I dont give a shit. But having a silent car with instant torque and no fuel bill is something awesome. But how would these electric motors work with transmissions? when you shift and let off the gas the rpm drops to 0 instantly which wouldnt end well when the clutch is released

[@phillipzx3d]

You don't really need a transmission when you have 500+ lb. ft of torque from zero RPM. :-) The White Zombie (an electric Datsun 1200) does 0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 10.2 (or.4...I forget) seconds...Anyhow, no transmission. You could always use an automatic. A small motor could drive the pump. :-) The Yasa-750 is a 60 pound motor that's about 13" in diameter, and about 4 " thick. This thing puts out 500 lb.ft. of torque....60 POUNDS in weight!

[@phillipzx3d]

I'd rather talk to a wall as it provides as much intellectual feedback as you.

[@BrianPhelps]

I believe they use 2 11 inch series wound dc warp11 motors with two evnetics controllers capable of 1000 amps each. They built it for pikes peak and won 50th overall. It is fast. The air cleaners blow cool clean air on the brushes and through the motor.

[@youngscotsman]

rest of the world talk in KW and or BHP ,obviously this guy hasn't left his bubble in the US

[@MIRACLECHEEZ]

Most people don't talk about electricity at all. That's the lamest thing to genuinely make conversation about, unless you're some sort of scientist

[@KompletterGeist]

lol...if your car has a 30% transmission/drivetrain loss, it's time to replace some bearings, change fluids and check gearmesh...cuz that is definately too much. Even 20% loss is questionable on most vehicles

[@Hirorir]

"i like this car because it makes weird space noises!" I want to try LOL

[@cobrajack-official]

At 8:30 Matt's reaction was exactly the same reaction I had last summer after testing the Harley Davidson Project LiveWire. By the next morning I was completely on board with performance electric vehicles. I can't wait till aftermarket providers are selling kits to transform cars like a craigslist E36 into an electric torque monster.

[@nlimskater]

Very rude to the car owner, horrible show host Why would you talk down about his product?

[@M135iboost]

bibbly bobbly lol great answer

[@nlimskater]

bibbly bobbly Doesn't seem very shit to me

[@Yung_Goudaa]

nlimskater You didn't drive the car did you.

[@nlimskater]

AlphaZorks You're right even without driving the car I still have enough respect to not insult it.

[@justforever96]

When did he "insult" it? HE compliments the excellent work and engineering. All he says is that he PERSONALLY "isn't sure" if he likes the idea of an electric race car, just because HE doesn't feel like it's fun. He doesn't say it's a bad idea, or that it's slow, or that the car isn't well designed....he is talking about electric cars in general, and as the host of a show for gearheads, about the best he dared say about about it is that "he'll have to think about how he feels about it", because a lot of his audience is very against electric cars. If you consider what he said "insulting", I'm glad I don't have to hang out with you.

[@PortUnderwood]

Dear America, please update your education system to include SI units - also know as the units the rest of the world uses.

[@Hole_Motorsports]

We learn the metric system in school, they just don't teach us kW to hp. Also most people just don't remember the conversion from meters to feet. When you live you life by mph and feet it's hard to get a good reference when someone says they were going 200kmh

[@Larsverde]

Starstriple nope,they work great once you actually use them

[@earthclad6833]

Too late, we wish we could change but that would take a long time to

[@dieselgate5002]

Electric e36, whaat.. BMW needs petrol

[@thomaslax39]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@avi9526]

The sound at 1:21 is awesome

[@jonathanrice2085]

Electric cars may become more "popular" with road going cars. But over all, gas cars will never become extent. 1. Fuel is a monopoly. 2. monopoly again

[@str3tchr]

If you are talking about "gas" as gasoline from crude oil, yes they will eventually become extinct, which I think is what you meant. I am having trouble understanding your use of extent here. 1. Eventually it will run out. 2. When it runs out we will have no more. 3. Since we will have no more no more cars will be able to be powered by it 4. Gas powered cars will become extinct - at least to the extent that they are no longer a viable alternative to 99% of human transportation

[@Rumplemenz]

well actually there will be a day where electric cars wallop the amount of gas cars so much that gas is going to be ridiculously cheap.... however, the gas cars will be very expensive to purchase. That day will come

[@duckanos9946]

Joel McMath Surgar cane mate sugar cane

[@jwiger]

Marc Berry Corn ethanol too.

[@ibinyth5866]

Marc Berry Indeed

[@Exekutioncro]

Fuck this new electric shit.

[@LifenPlay]

God forbid you save the environment.

[@dalemartin2814]

That feeling you get when you hear a Ferrari, Porsche, a muscle car, etc., engine. You know they're alive. Electric cars seem to be more appliance like.

[@Rahhhhhnman]

400 KW = 536 HP Matt got 342 at the wheels, bloody hell that's a MASSIVE loss.

[@Phrew]

Theoretically: Yes. Practically: Those are Brushless DC Motors. Usual DC motors commutate (change the internal winding Polarity to continue rotation) using coal "brushes" which makes contact to a slotted ring on the rotor. With every partial rotation, the polarity is changed. That's why 2 cables are enough. Brushless motors don't have brushes (duh), but 3 Terminals and also 3 windings. They can't commutate by themselves, thus you need a second piece of hardware for measurement and commutation.

[@vapno92]

Strange thing is, we in Europe uses kilowatts for measuring engine's power for decades now... 66kW/90hp, 74kW/100hp, 81kW/110hp, 96kW/130hp, 110kW/150hp, 150kW/200hp etc...

[@erik_cruz]

You're absolutely right! But the 400 kW is referring to pure electrical energy. But when you factor in the voltage drop thru the controller, the DC motor's 85% efficiency and what ever the drive train loss is… yeah, I can see about 350hp to the wheels.

[@jellevandenberge2494]

It checks out though. I'm not sure why they tested it like that, but he mentions that it was 342hp at 600rpm. Later in the video he mentions how it redlines at 4100rpm.

[@revans124]

I'd love to drive this in CA. When the cops pull you over and think you have all these modded parts you can be like no this is as good for the environment as a prius. CARB Approved!

[@kawalangdalawahan]

FINALLY! SOMEONE ELSE THAT GETS MY POINT! when people actually build electric cars for performance and NOT for green reasons....if i were to build an electric car, this is the same reason why I'd build it.

[@fulltonefulltone]

Forgetting how fun it is to drive a good natural aspirated car with manual shift is easy now days. I did... but now I'm back ;)

[@bmwalpina4628]

Indicators like in a small plane:) E36 my first BMW!

[@sailor_mikey]

WOW. racecars should use more of THIS!

[@einzelmotorsport6466]

On track, I'd still prefer a clutch and gears. They are part of the car's control and balance as much as anything else.

[@johngrepo9976]

Building performance cars has always been performance..now electric technology will catch up..im happy

[@robertmoore5002]

Also, while sound is good, I actually like the idea of a "silent" car.

[@TheSmokingTire]

we would love to, we just need more money to do it, since renting race tracks is very expensive, and unless the tuner provides the track for us, out of our budget.

[@Tron-Jockey]

Destruction of gearbox internals due to an electrics near instantaneous application of torque is more of an issue for DC motors unless you get creative with the controllers. Most OEM manufacturers are going with 3-phase AC motors which are inductively coupled (no brushes), and can allow for soft start. AC technology allows for altering the voltage-amperage phase relationships to mimic the slower torque onset of a gasoline engine. However, AC typically requires a much more complex controller.

[@corydiesel88]

Altitude does effect electric motors. Specifically brushed motors such as this one. But not nearly as much as it effects combustion engines. At higher altitudes, air becomes more conductive and therefore can cause problems. But Im sure this will only be noticeable at very high altitudes (relatively) such as 15,000 ft +

[@Phrew]

Well, to be entirely correct, the torque drops with rising temperature of the engine. This is why cooling is essential. Also you can't have infinite power as for physical/design limitations. You will have loss due to friction, your engine's RPM can't go infinite and stuff like that. So yes, you are right, the curve will start to drop at some point. What i meant is, that the curve doesn't start at a very low level like on combustion engines.

This is very well done, I wouldn't do it but I admire the works you put into it. I salute you ,sir!

[@XStreet1985]

Save the planet Matt!!! Its all we've got!

[@484berkshire]

Part of me is like "More torque!!! Instant power!! Heck yeah!!" The other part is like "No sound, way fewer drivetrain customization options, and not able to drive appreciable long distances? No thanks..."

[@296jayce]

10 years later, we have 1000hp all electric sedans. I had to come back to this video 10 years later.

[@Douggers449]

"I like this car because it makes weird space noises." Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Farah's back.

[@justmechanicthings]

I like how they have set up the power train in similar dimensions to a gas engine, I guess to simulate the same weight distribution as an engined car?

[@Zephyrian1st]

i dont think its all about sound, i would love electric races and hill climbs, its really odd to watch but can be insane since they drive so different.

[@Nonfictionzz]

Last season they promoted the glasses. They should still be available.

[@15Robin15]

Sweet technology producing that much torque but maaaan... it just goes WhhhEeeeee!

[@Hkarl85]

"Dont wanna save the planet" while standing on the fucking thing

[@HayateV3]

Reminds me of my first brushless rc car. It was fast as hell and had enough low end torque to make the car do backflips from a stop, but nothing beat the experience of the nitro engines ive come to love. This car is cool and all, but they added weight to a track car. Now when they go to the track, they can only run a few laps before having to call it a day to recharge their battery. (Unless the battery is removable, in which case they swap out their 10k$ batteries for another hour of fun)

[@NicholasLittlejohn]

Leaf batteries and self made packs are $5k and less now.

[@nabirasafat5274]

Props to EV West for developing such a car. No doubt it's a great effort. Personally I just can't enjoy such a car though. The speed factor from all that torque is nice, but I'd be more happy with all the sounds that a gas motor and exhaust make despite it being less torque and possibly slower. It's the whole experience and sense of occasion that is lacking with this kind of car. Sorry, I guess i'm set on my old-school ways. Perhaps hardcore racers looking for ultimate speed will absolutely love a car like this.

[@izzzzzz6]

It won't be long till one of these high power EV's blow up the Dyno!

[@NMI76]

Yes I do want to see electric race cars. Everything must evolve and adapt. As much as I love cars and engines, the next step for us will be alternative fuel sources. Electricity being one of them , I think it will be amazing to see what we can REALLY do with electric cars. Because as they said, the fastest way to improve a car is by racing. But perhaps I'm saying this because I'm an engineer.

[@deyanmollov4161]

3:45 Sitting on ground and having the steering wheel way up high is something standart in e36 coupe my friend :)