This Generation: The Last Days According to Jesus with R.C. Sproul

[@ourfamilyjourney7]

Since we first received this insight, the congregation has endured a great deal of suffering, rejection, and criticism. Every time we give a lecture on this subject, we lose families, and people stop coming and leave because they think our ideas are heretical. But we remain committed and steadfast. We have opted to trust Yeshua and his teachings. Thank you for sharing this lesson.

[@mikemccormick9667]

Smart move. 🙏😊🙏

[@LyleTrush]

People are not used to hearing the truth! I only wish I could find a church like yours here in Vancouver! God bless

[@logannlaney1601]

It is brave of you to stand for the truth

[@kenamesthewatcherchronicle6746]

I tend to disagree with Sproul's final analysis. Jesus did come into his kingdom in that Generation, and will return within the generation that sees all the things transpire that he describes in the Olivet Discourse up to his return. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world. His kindom is the Kingdom of Heaven. They did see him coming into his kingdom 40 days after his resurrection, thus fulfilling the prophesy of Daniel 7:13-14 13 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." 14 "And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." This is a prophesy af the ascention of Jesus to the throne of the father(the ancient of days). What happens when he gets there? He's given dominion, glory, and a kingdom. Christ, therefore, was seen coming into his kingdom when he ascended. All of his disciples were not there. Judas was dead. Sproul is adding to scripture when he calls the end of the age, the end of the Jewish age, and doing so for no other reason than to support hus own belief that the Millenial Kingdom began in that Generation and will continue until the return of Christ. There's a problem with his interpretation. Jesus described the cosmic anomalies at his coming and our gathering to him. Those cosmic anomalies are described in Zechariah 14 as occurring just before the Lord comes, bringing all his saints with him, and destroying the nations gathered to fight Israel on the Day of the Lord. That is the end of the age, and the beginning of the millenial kingdom. Here's the explanation of "this generation" its very clear unless you reject the plain text because it disagrees with your personal belief. "This generation" is the generation that sees "all" those things transpire that Jesus just described leading up to his return. Here's the statement by Jesus: Matthew 24:33-34 33 So likewise ye, "when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. This generation, that sees all these things transpire, shall not pass before he returns and gathers the elect. Your own ministry policy should require you to state your doctrinal position before you even start teaching on an eschotological topic. People led by the spirit can discern this. That's why they leave your fellowship. The great scholars of Ligonier Ministries are just that, scholars. They all teach that the Bible should be studied as any other textbook, that there is no spiritual or esoteric inspiration to understanding anything therein. Jesus disagrees with them. That's why he "opened the scriptures" to his disciples so they understand all the passages of the Tanakh in the Law of Moses, the psalms, and the prophets that pertain to him. Likewise, since Pentecost, we have that same benefit by the Holy Spirit to have the scriotures opened to us concerning Jesus. We just need to learn how to ask for and recognize it's benefits.

[@betsicheuvront688]

@@LyleTrush 😀

[@LeeRoyKmusic]

A generation is 40 years. Jesus was just saying that he didn't know the exact day (or hour) the 2nd Temple would be destroyed. There is nothing confusing about his statements. On a macro level, he knew it was the end, but on a micro level he could not give an exact date. He did offer a sign that the end would be very near though. "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near." (Luke 21:20)

[@lonestarstate6570]

Nothing in the Bible says a generation is only 40 years. He says this is a Jewish understanding of a generation....false! Psalm 90:10 makes it very clear that our years are 70, 80 if by strength. Most Scholars would argue that David is specifically talking about a generation

[@LeeRoyKmusic]

@@lonestarstate6570 When the Israelite spies came back from the Promised Land with a negative report God had them wander the desert for 40 years so the prior generation would pass away and the new generation would enter. In the Bible the number 40 is also associated with trials, testing and judgement.

[@lonestarstate6570]

@@LeeRoyKmusic Yeah but the Israelites that were sent back out for 38 more years into the desert were not babies who were just born! Most of them were grown men who were already over halfway done with their life of 70-80 years. Your example does not prove that a generation is only 40 years

[@AB-ComeLordJesus]

See former preterist Brock Hollet's explaination of what constitutes as a generation.

[@sarahjesusisgod]

I just googled it lol it says a generation is about 25 years from the birth of a parent to the birth of the child.

[@MatteoSimeone22]

God bless the late RC Sproul. He explains this so beautifully.

[@michaeljmasseri973]

Amazing because he's not a self righteous person nor put himself above anyone else and understand the word of the Lord

[@christvictoriouskingdomnow2473]

Agree, God-bless! We advertise this on our playlist as well, it needs to get out there.

[@stereotype5868]

Derich jester on yt explains this well also.

[@dotosmelucio]

I certainly missed this man of God, He explicitely explain the Word of the Lord vividly

[@flightparamedic505]

Amen. Yes he did indeed

[@cynthiahunter2570]

I’m beginning to believe you are correct.

[@govtismiddlemanagement397]

We must rebuild our inner temples in order to receive the gift of discernment. This gift is what is referenced as the kingdom of God, the ability to see through the decpetion of modern times. We must enter this new kingdom with the naivety and curiosity of a child.

[@MatteoSimeone22]

Matt 23 is the judgment of the Pharisees. Matt 24 is the continuation of the same theme - judgment upon the generation of the Pharisees who crucified Jesus and persecuted the Apostolic church.

[@rizzogizzo6000]

Bam! That simple. #Myman

[@markhamilton5134]

R.C Sproul is a dynamic speaker

[@marjieyoung9570]

22:53: Begins "But!.....What if the end of the age HAS come?" I find this concept to be quite fascinating. So much so that I just had to pause and say, "Did you guys hear that!?" 😁 I'm eagerly looking forward to listening to the rest of the series. ☺

[@godsbeloved4253]

Well we must have went to hell then..

[@Stanzi18]

This refers to the end of the Mosaic Covenant. The end of the Jewish age and the institution of the New Covenant.

[@xanderbarr1983]

Hi, what do you think now 3 years later?it looks like the times of the gentiles is almost over..

[@kriegjaeger]

@@xanderbarr1983 I frankly agree. There were around 2000 years of Christian faith in various forms, some more faithful, some less, an exodus to a new nation and nothing short of providence that enabled its creation. Now though, we have lost our way as a people. Now I would point out that so had Israel in the time of Judges, the people may repent and return. But I think the current corrupt institutions will fall and there will be a new reformation, or something else unforeseen will happen. Or we may be near the end of history.

[@Shadow-Man-vz8sv]

​@@Stanzi1870 AD. The wrath of Titus, son of Vespasian Caesar.

[@BraydenWolframe]

Amen Sproul. The Bible is truly remarkable in every way. May we praise The Lord God Almighty for His aboundunding mercy and love forevermore. God bless you all.

[@flightparamedic505]

Well said.

[@Emrio3]

God does not always answer your prayers when you want but I promise you there is a God and he does answer prayers

[@c.g.ryderii2405]

If the disciples asked about the last generation, why does it seem so far off to say, when Jesus said THIS generation, He was referring to generation that the disciples asked about? Hence the last generation. I dont think I could be convinced we are in the millennial reign today and satan is bound in the pit. Much love brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is King

[@shorelinebaptistchurch4169]

But the disciples had all sort of categories confused when they asked their questions. 'When will these things be?' is a completely different question from 'What is the sign of your coming?' I think Jesus answered several different questions at the same time without trying to set the disciples straight on their confusion. It would have been perfectly normal for the disciples to see the destruction of Jerusalem as being the end of the world, but they were wrong about that. In fact, until after Jesus rose from the dead, they all believed that the Messiah had come to take the throne from Herod and to destroy Rome. You could argue that He did, just as Daniel predicted He would, but it wouldn't happen for centuries.

[@MD-cd7em]

I AGREE

[@MD-cd7em]

WE STILL HAVE MUCH TO BE RIGHTLY UNDERSTOOD

[@kjvpastor5968]

The disciples didn't ask about the last generation, they asked about the end of the age of the Old Covenant in reference to Jesus predicting the destruction of the earthly temple, That happened in that generation in 70 AD. We are now in the kingdom age because Daniel stated that the kingdom would be established in the time frame of the four world empires that ended with Rome, there is no more Roman empire but we have the Kingdom.

[@godsbeloved4253]

We cant be in the mellinnial because we that happens after the tribulation in those days after Jesus co.es in the clouds and gathers His elect. There would be peace and people will live longer, no illness, clean air, no killings, so it would not be like this. There is no wicked as the wicked and all the rest are risen even from the sea after 1000 year reign when satan is unleashed one last time and gathers an army of those risen to take the kingdom but doesnt make it very far and there is no battle as God reigns fire down and scorches them all up. Then God comes and lives with man on the new earth in the kingdom or new Jerusalem with many mansions in it that we will all live in which explains the line Jesus said, " In my Fathers house are many mansions and, I go to prepare a place for you."

[@classicrockonly]

Late to the party, but I never knew this view existed until I read John Gill, who also held to this same position as Sproul. Very thankful for Sproul and his teachings

[@GodLovesYou1980]

Thank you

[@IvanIvanov-vy7pt]

I SO wish you would help us, the Listeners by numbering your lesons, so we could follow you eazier!

[@timd3895]

That would have been ideal but you can still watch them in order easily if you use the playlists on their channel. Here's this series: kzbin.info/aero/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus

[@merrillbartle4174]

If Jesus said he didn’t know, then he didn’t know, he can’t lie. Also in his human state, he did know future things.✝️

[@All_Things_Biblical]

I agree 100% with the final conclusion: YhM was NOT addressing heathens but Jews and they were talking about His Kingdom, not knowing that there would come a Diaspora of "two days" (Hosea 6:2).

[@markhamilton5134]

I am looking forward to the day when I see him in Heaven

[@eirenex5232]

Aww that made my heat happy ready this. I agree 🙏🏻

[@eirenex5232]

*heart

[@eirenex5232]

Autocorrect is driving me mad! *Made my heart happy reading this* is what I was trying to say 😂

[@InTheGarden1960]

I am surprised Sproul has not made the case for how long the generation was, though it is mentioned in the beginning. There are many that argue how many years are a generation. This to me is quite true. 40 years, as the generation in the desert that would not pass over the Jordan, was 40 years. Many don't like that and go with 70 or some even 120, but 40 years holds great significance as it was given them to repent of their wicked ways.

[@christvictoriouskingdomnow2473]

Amen, we advertise this series on our playlist. God-bless!

[@endtimestruthtv]

People must start take Yeshua-Jesus words face value. And stop being afraid of what's popular. YESHUA-JESUS our Lord Spoke TRUTH , even when it was not Popular. Many Young people have ask us these questions from Matthew 24 . The TRUTH really doesn't hinder our Salvation,; The TRUTH always in the End Strengthen our Salvation. 100%❤

[@jwright8838]

Matthew 24:34 has an immediate context of looking for events that presage major events. Verses 32 and 33 convey the idea that observation of specific events can tell you of the coming of more meaningful events. For example, when leaves fall from a tree and temperatures drop I know that winter is not too far. Therefore, the Lord is telling us that when these events in chapter 24 start stringing together you can know the rest are not far behind. The Lord tells us to learn the parable of the fig tree. Quite simply, He tells us that the generation that sees these events stringing together will see His return. Many of the events of Matthew 24 are yet to take place. The generation that sees the Abomination of Desolation will see His return. There is no controversy here if we simply apply the same grammatical historical hermeneutic we use to interpret the rest of the Bible.

[@kjvpastor5968]

Several problems with this argument that you are speaking of. First of all, in all of Matt 24 Jesus is speaking to his disciples in private, he never references anyone else in the first century nor is he talking to people thousands of years later. Second of all, The abomination of desolation is the destruction of the temple when the abomination of desolation is set up in the Holy Place, that happened two thousand years ago, the temple has been desolate and destroyed and it happened in the generation that Jesus referred to in 70 AD. The end of the age was the end of the age of the Old Testament that began to wax old on the cross and vanished away in 70 AD. The earthquakes marked the end of the age, you had the earthquake when Jesus died, and when he rose signifying earthquakes in diverse places showing the coming of the end of the world of the Jews. Everything in Matt 24 can be found clearly recorded in Bible including the wars and rumors of wars that THEY, the disciples that Jesus spoke to, would hear about and see. Josephus calls them the "Wars of the Jews". During this time the Lord descened into the sheol and released the Old testament saints and then he "seized them together" with us in the air of the spirit and into his glory cloud of his divinity and now he lives on this earth and abides in us as we are his temple on this earth. Jesus prayed that God would not take us out of the world bur would only "seize us together". Joh 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Joh 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. Joh 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Joh 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; Joh 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

[@godsbeloved4253]

Only one problem here as Satan wasnt bound and when were the rest of the people not just the elect risen that scripture slspeaks of after the 1000 years when Satan is unleashed? We cant be in the 1000 years cause there are no wicked there, no evil, etc as satan is gone and it is peaceful and Jesus Himself not just in us reigns then Satan is unleashed and the rest of the dead and wicked are risen and Satan gathers them to create an army in very short time and take down Gods kingdom but doesnt get close as God calls fire down on them all and scorches them. Then the saints judge the remaining and after God actually comes down and resides with man on the new earth in the new kingdom of Jerusalem where Jesud said He went to prepare a place for us and that there are many mansions in His Fathers house. So everything hasn't happened.

[@amk1689]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnjIoJWYgZ6rnqc 8 reasons Matthew 24 did not occur in 70 AD

[@rizzogizzo6000]

Matthew 23... Jesus speaks of that generation. Matthew 24... He’s still talking to that generation. It’s really simple. Jesus was a Prophet. (Theee Prophet at that) His language would and should echo the same as the prophets. See the parables of the Kingdom and His teaching on how He came to complete the Law and the prophets. Again, respectfully, it’s simple. It took me a while to see it. Plain reading will do it.

[@jackgtx440]

@@godsbeloved4253 Satan is bound right now from deceiving the nations. This is the very reason the great commission can happen.

[@grantbartley483]

People try to pull us down, just because we get around. Talkin' 'bout this generation.

[@jackgtx440]

I see what you did there.

[@gramps5157]

And boy did they get pulled down. Temple and all. Talkin' bout that generation.

[@grantbartley483]

​@@gramps5157 The worst is yet to come.

[@jamesbradford4770]

Grant, have you also remembered that he sang, "I hope I die before I get old." Do you think he still believes that? (rock on brother)

[@grantbartley483]

@@jamesbradford4770 I think it's a bit late for both Townsend and Daltrey to die before they get old!

[@johnstewart7025]

Jesus' prophecy, the Olivet discourse, makes sense if we assume that the Kingdom of God refers to his religion, his teaching, AFTER the destruction of the temple.

[@steamer.ssf3128]

Brilliant and reasonable exegetical analysis of scripture interpreted by scripture.

[@shellyblanchard5788]

The problem is most want to read as the generation that e are living in now. It was talking about the generation he was talking to then that he spoke to. most want to take it that his words won't pass away as in keeping the Sabbaths days. They want to remember keep to Sabbath day holy. Jesus told that when these are fulfilled in him they would pass.

[@williamiannucci2740]

But as many as received him gave he them the power to become the sons of the LIVING God. Selah Amen AMEN

[@rajaknowles2287]

He DIDNT SAY THE END OF THE AGE WOULD BE IN HIS GENERATION HE SAID THE jewish desolation and distruction of temple and vengence on Israel would happen before His generation ended Which all happened by AD 70

[@ronaldus1011]

I agree with your interpretation. The event Jesus is referring to is the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.

[@Tornacuum]

One other interpretation I've seen is that "this generation" means "the generation that will see the signs beginning" so basically if our own 2024 generation begins to see the signs Jesus described, then the rest of the prophecy will occur within 40 years or so : our generation will not pass away until the end. I have no idea how they came to that conclusion though.

[@northshore1000]

This is so mind-blowingly cool!! I love it!! More, more!!

[@jamesbradford4770]

Lets' accept both arguments, a generation is 40 yrs. or 3 score and 10, 70 yrs. We are now in the 74th year since Israel became a nation, what happened to Hal, and Dr. Van Impe, and Pat's teachings all through the 70's and 80's that WE WOULD SEE, the return of Christ. I am now 73 yrs. old and no return. What did I do, I went back and reread all scripture without commentaries for 7 yrs. many hours a day and what happened? I saw the clear and perfect warning to THAT GENERATION that they were going to suffer the wrath of God for murdering the Lord of glory. The judgment upon Jerusalem was to be the witness to all of subsequent history the value that God the Father placed upon the murder of Christ. They of the first century committed the most wicked sin in history and therefore they reaped the harvest judgment which will never be repeated. (Matt.24:21-22; Daniel 12:1-3) And this wrath poured out on those who killed Him can never be topped. To do so, would state to the world by God, that the world today could commit a sin greater than THAT SIN. "Upon you, (His generation) shall come the vengeance of all the righteous blood of all my prophets since Abel onward." Why, because the Jews added to the murder of all their prophets, the murder of God's son as well. (Matt.23:34-37)(Luke 21:20-22) "Fill ye up then the full MEASURE OF your father's guilt." The prophet's blood + the innocent blood of Christ. The greatest sin brought the greatest judgment!!

[@CraigHeath-um6qb]

Regarding Jesus not knowing the day or the hour, which Mr. Sproul said is a problem for many, Jesus made a statement in John 15:15- "Everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you." It seems very reasonable that the Father intentionally held back these specific details from the Son, so that Jesus would not make them known to his disciples (and us).

[@misternewman1576]

I think the generation that Jesus speaks of “not passing” until He returns is a future generation, namely, the people living when the predicted events occur. Instead of saying "The generation that will be alive when these events take place" he simply said "This (that) generation".

[@eddiehill3466]

Back up to chapter 23. Jesus refers to “this generation” as he does in 24. Read it in the context that is given, and it bleeds right over to 24. No need to play games with it, just let it flow.

[@allthingsbing1295]

If he meant that generation why wouldn’t he say that instead of this?

[@barbarahill4125]

Absolutely this is what I have always thought

[@johnjames8739]

Highly advise those disagreeing to study the teaching of Bahnsen

[@markalmencion5530]

My interpration of "This Generation" is the generation of Sinners. These warnings are for unbelievers or not yet saved. For us who have been saved by Grace alone, by Jesus Christ alone and Faith alone we really dont get caught by the suprise return of Jesus. As Paul said, to live is Christ and to die is gain. For we made ready by our Father God through our Saviour Jesus Christ and sacntified by Holy Spirit.

[@CRUCIFi777]

It’s amazing how much work some ppl are willing to put in just to not believe.

[@michaelstanley4698]

'This generation' meant the 14th generation from David (Matt.1:17), the last generation under the Old Covenant, because Christ had come, the New Covenant being 'in His blood'. Yes, it was a 'faithless' and 'sinful' generation, and an 'earthy' generation (1Cor.15:47-49). Christ had come 'in His kingdom' (Matt.12:28, 13:41). The 'generation of Jesus Christ' (Matt.1:1) would soon be 'the regeneration' 'when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory' (Matt.19:28). Think about that!

[@silvereagle3cowboy61]

Isaiah 26: 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

[@binsonthomas2158]

Jesus' human and divine nature aren't two distinct or separate natures. He's fully divine and fully human.

[@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly]

love how he is not dogmatic on this subject.

[@Christopher41791]

I would seriously consider the fact, that, "The Hour or Day", was told, but nothing wasn't said about the "Month or Year".......? With that saying, if you can figure out the "Month & Year," you will 'Know" Christ's Coming & be prepared.........! Amen

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

Jesus already came back.. AD 70.. He came back to Judge and divorce the southern kingdom the Jews.. to end the old covenant age.. to judge all of those in Adam.. and remarry the 2 tribes. There is only one verse that puts His 2nd coming in a 2 numeral value. Hebrews 9: 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. That was AD 70.. notice the author says His 2nd coming os for SALVATION.. so If He hasn’t come a 2nd time. Then you don’t have salvation.

[@janmarino1732]

As a full Preterist, ALL things had to be fulfilled or else we are still under the law which is impossible since Israel was destroyed, there are no high priests and the temple is gone. The Bible is a completed work.

[@TomasoAnbraten]

Incoherent.

[@decentlyandinorder]

I believe Dr. Sproul has it wrong at # 11:15 - The fact that the scriptures made a point to reveal that there were 6 days that passed before Jesus showed Himself *in a vision* in all oif His glory to Peter, John and James, is very relevant. After Peter recounts the transfiguration in his 2nd epistle, Peter then reveals that one day with The Lord is as a thousand years. (2 Peter 3:8) I believe that such was to give us the hint that the 6 days after Jesus predeicted some would see Him in His glory, represent the 6000 years from Adam until Christ's return, when Jesus will finally reveal His glory, not in a vision at that later time, but in reality. So when Jesus stated that some of those there would see Him in His glory, yes, Peter, John and James did see Jesus in His glory after 6 literal days. So the message to this final generation is that some of *us* believers reading Jesus's words today, 6000 years later (6 millennial days later), those of us who remain and are alive on "the last day", will experience the reality of Jesus appearing in His glory at His return. There would be no reason for the scriptures to specify the number of days that had passed before the transfiguration unless it was pointing to something important. Peter adds another clue. He writes, "I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the *tent* of this body because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me." (2 Peter 1:13-14) Of all words to use to portray his body, he chose "tent". It is the same (greek) word Peter used at the transfiguration, when he suggested that three *tents* be erected, one for Jesus, one for Moses and one for Elijah, the meaning of which. Peter wrote, he learned from Christ, who "made it clear" to him that Jesus, Moses and Elijah were being shown in that vision as having "put aside:" their tents. So of course, Peter, at the time, would blurt out, "let's build three tents", before he fully knew what he was saying. The reason no tents were needed for Jesus, Moses and Elijah (who had put aside their tents on the Holy Mountain) was because it was only a vision. (Matthew 17:9) Peter speaks of his own death as his "departure". Moses and Elijah discussed Jesus' soon "departure" (same greek word) with Jesus during the transfiguration. With all of the references Peter makes to the transfiguration, I believe Peter let us know the significance of those 6 days that passed, by telling us how God counts days. Each day that had passed represented 1000 years, which tells us that 6000 years will pass before the actual revelation of Christ's glory.

[@douglaidlaw740]

Like so many other Christians, I read my Bible. It says that even Jesus Himself does not know when the Second Coming will be. But that dooesn't deter the Doomsday cult. The Great Disappointment said: Jesus doesn't know the date, so we will ask Daniel instead. One follower said "I stayed in my house all day, to be home when Jesus knocked, and Jesus didn't come! " The Second Coming will be a much bigger event than he could imagine. The Baha'i said "Yes, Jesus did come, but not in the USA . He was a Baha'i forerunner, (similar to the Baptist) born in Persia." Laugh if you like, but that story is entirely consistent with the Bible, which makes no mention of the USA.

[@beauchal]

If the fig tree parable represents Israel, “this generation” likely refers to those born after 1948 as that was when Israel became a nation and “put out its leaves.”

[@lawrencestanley8989]

Preterists insist that Matthew 24 was fulfilled in 70AD, and yet, Jesus's own prophecies there incorporate those of Daniel in Daniel 9:24 and following, and, if we do our math correctly, and if the preterist assumes that all of the years of Daniel's prophecy are sequential years, that would place its fulfillment in 39AD - that would be 490 years from the decree of Artaxerxes in 458BC. But nothing happened in 39AD. Not only this, but the Didache, which was penned between 70-100AD treats Matthew 24 as yet future events. So, the preterist has a lot of explaining to do.

[@pyllytaskussa]

Counting years is a tough job and many people give different dates. Some assume the original 70x7 means lunar years of 360 days in which case the time would end around 30-32AD. More reliable than trying to calculate the dates exactly is analyzing the content of the prophesy, though. Everything prophesied in Daniel 9:24 did indeed happen with Jesus' ministry so there's no need to try to suddenly insert a gap in the 70 sevens.

[@lawrencestanley8989]

@@pyllytaskussa You said: *"Everything prophesied in Daniel **9:24** did indeed happen with Jesus' ministry"* I wholeheartedly disagree.

[@lalumierehuguenote]

Its okay to disagree on those things between brothers and sisters in Christ :)

[@pyllytaskussa]

@@lalumierehuguenote Well said.

[@lawrencestanley8989]

@@lalumierehuguenote It is, most assuredly... But, now that I think about it, maybe I should have explained WHY I disagree with that assertion. The countdown of the 490 years in Daniel 9 begins with the command to restore and build Jerusalem. That command is seen in Nehemiah 2:1-8, and is recorded in history as the decree of Artazerxes Longimanus on March 14th, 445BC, according to The Encyclopedia Britanica, volume 2, page 660. Daniel breaks the 70 weeks down into 3 chunks of time marked by specific events; first he says there shall be 7 weeks: 49 years. This refers to the closing of Nehemiah’s career of the rebuilding of Jerusalem in 396 BC, as well as the end of the ministry of Malachi, and the close of the Old Testament. He then says there shall be 62 weeks: 434 years. So there will be a total of 483 years from the time that the command was given to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah would come - but this does not refer to the birth of Messiah, nor the beginning of His earthly ministry, but rather it refers to His presentation as Prince, this could only be His triumphal entry into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (cf Zechariah 9:9). OK, so let's do the math. A year in Biblical prophecy is a lunar year of 360 days; they viewed their year like we would a circle, 360 degrees, and 360 days; 1 day = 1 degree. From the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince is going to be 49 years, and then 434 years for a total of 483 years, where each year was made up of 360 days. So, take 360 days in a prophetic year, and remember that Jesus began His public ministry in 29AD. We know this date because of Luke 3:1-2 that says "Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, and Herod was tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip was tetrarch of the region of Ituraea and Trachonitis, and Lysanias was tetrarch of Abilene, in the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John, the son of Zacharias, in the wilderness." Tiberius Caesar was Roman Emperor from 14 AD to 37 AD, so his 15th year would be 29 AD, this is the year of Jesus’ baptism and His entrance into public ministry. Then the Bible teaches that 3 Passovers later, Jesus as the Messiah made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem after 3 years of public ministry. Since the Passover date is set by the Paschal moon, we can track that to April 6, 32 AD. Now if you take the 434 years plus 49 years, you have 483 years, multiply that by 360 days, and you have 173,880 days from March 14th, 445 BC to April 6th, 32 AD - (This is the equivalent of 476 years and 25 days, using our modern Gregorian calendar’s 365-day year). That’s exactly the day when Jesus was riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey on Palm Sunday. At the point of the crucifixion of Christ (Daniel 9:26), this sets the wheels in motion for the destruction of the city and the temple. The passage states that "its end will come with a flood," this doesn't refer to a flood of water, but rather, it describes a situation where from a particular beginning point in time, destruction rises a little bit at a time until total destruction is complete, in the same way that flood waters rise gradually until it completely swallows and destroys. At the point of the crucifixion of Christ, and the beginning of the end of Jerusalem, God puts a hold on the clock. God is dealing with Israel, and there is now an undetermined period of time that will be marked by wars and desolations, and that is the time that we are now living in. This is referred to the “Times of the Gentiles.” When Israel turned her back on the Messiah, the clock stopped ticking, and there are now just 7 years left. 483 years have been accomplished, but the 490 years have yet to be completed, so a blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. With the rapture of the Church, God’s clock will start ticking once again for God’s final 7 years. The final seven years is seen in Daniel 9:27. This ‘he” that will confirm the covenant for 7 years (1 week) is seen in verse 26 where we read of the “prince who is to come.” Verse 25 talks about a Prince (capital “P”), this is Messiah the Prince. But the “prince who is to come” in verse 26 is a Roman prince; the Romans destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem, and this Roman prince is going to make a covenant with Israel. He is going to come out of Europe, there will eventually be a re-federation of the old Roman Empire, and out of that is going to come a prince, a leader, he is called the man of sin, the beast, the wicked one, the anti-Christ. This prince will make a peace treaty with Israel for 7 years. Israel by this time will be very tired, they will be looking for a Messiah; since they did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, and did not accept the true Prince, they will accept the false prince (cf John 5:43, Daniel 8:25). Now in the middle of this peace treaty, this prince that is to come will double cross Israel. He will break his own covenant with them. Verse 27: “And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering." This speaks to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and a reinstitution of the sacrificial system - these will be halted by the prince after 3 ½ years, for in the middle of that 7 year period, he will walk into the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God, and demand they worship him (cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, Daniel 11:31). And at that time the Jews are going to recognize that they have been deceived, and they are going to refuse this false prince, and he will unleash his satanic fury on God’s sacred people (Daniel 12:1-3, Matthew 24:15 and 21-22)

[@georgechukwu]

It's so amazing how we beat around the bush of ignorance. We try always to intellectualize the word of God rather than seeking the revelation of the Holy Spirit. First, man's interpretation of a generation is not God's interpretation of a generation. God specifically told us what a generation is according to the book of Genesis 15:13,15. A generation according to God is 100 years by the luna calender of 360 days per year. Secondly, the generation Jesus was talking about was the generation of the parable of the fig tree. Matthew 24::32-35. This was fulfilled in May 14th 1948. This is just elementary simple. Check out Isaiah 66:8Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Here is your answer. Bless God.

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

Nothing of what your saying is true. Not sure where you get any of that.. The Fog tree is 1st century Israel and He cursed it. God already divorced the northern kingdom. People forget about that. And He’s about to divorce the southern kingdom the Jews. Then remarry the remnant of both kingdoms under 1 king Jesus. As per Ezekiel 37.. the dry bones and 2 sticks.

[@HenriquedeCastroMachado-wz5wb]

Hey everyone, I want to request some help here about the term "mind-frame" that Sproul used mentioning the most accepted and conservative version of the second coming. I am not a english speaker and I did not found some equivalent expression in Portuguese (y mother language). Could someone, brother or sister, give me examples or explain me that "term" in English?

[@RRodriguez1904]

Anyone know that year this was recorded? Thank you 🙏🏽

[@Logooze]

1998, I believe.

[@dirkathesmirkinflirka7180]

I love RC......

[@sandramiller8701]

No one knows when Jesus Christ is coming back. ,,,,,,,Only his father in heaven knows when ,,,,,then he will say Go get your bride meaning his people his chosen ones who's faithfully a believe ,,,a love him a have been true to his word they will live then forever w Jesus Christ in Heaven for ever lasting happiness.

[@eliphasphiri4090]

Jesus meant those people, but the event they were to witness was Jesus s coming in judgement of Jerusalem, but the events of Matthew 24; 29 and beyond were of he last day ,

[@berthabridges3483]

R.C. Sproul was one of the greatest theologians in my generation. I have learned so much from his lectures and books. Jesus Christ spoke specifically in 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Matthew 24:7, 1 Timothy 4:1 concerning the end days. The key is to timing is found in Ezekiel 36:24 when the Jews are gathered back in the land the Lord had given to Abraham permanently. They even have Jerusalem as their Capitol again. We may not know the hour but we sure can know the season. Time to witness what the Lord has done for you, and try to be bold and have mercy and lead others to salvation. I disagree concerning predestination. (Jesus) He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to ALL creation." Mark 16:15 Why preach to everyone if salvation is predestined for just a few? Thank you.

[@TheJpep2424]

You preach the gospel because it's a command that's why. Preaching is the method God ordained to bring the elect to salvation. Predestination is taught throughout scripture. Salvation is a work of God not a work of man. No one comes to the Father except the spirit draws him. The only people saved are the ones God saves. The apostle Paul didn't choose Christ, Christ chose Paul. Election and predestination is biblical.

[@gwendaallsworth1575]

Say you have 10 people in front of you, none had heard the Gospel. Would you tell just some of them, or all of them to find which ones respond to hearing the Word. We don't know which ones will respond, we can't pick & choose so we tell them all.

[@charltonbeukes]

Obedience first and secondly so they will have no excuse because God is a Holy and righteous Judge

[@MikeW2TB]

RC! You were amazing.

[@pappypeep8347]

And still is thanks to technology 🤗 God is so awesome!!!

[@danielshaolin6053]

Man worship

[@chrismitchell45]

I’ve always loved R.C., I have to disagree with some of his teachings in this series. For instance he was of the belief that the rapture takes place as Christ is returning at the battle of Armageddon. This implies that born again believers, being in dwelt by The Holy Spirit will suffer the wrath of God during the whole tribulation. My first problem with that is Paul says that the antichrist won’t be revealed until the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth. How can that happen if there are believers on earth who are saved by grace through faith in Jesus and therefore are in dwelt with The Holy Spirit? The other problem is we are saved from God’s wrath,. Another problem is in Revelation, after Jesus speaks to the 7 churches, the church isn’t mentioned until later when it’s seen in Heaven. Also, my reading of Jesus speaking of the end times he plainly says that Jerusalem would be torn down and gives the impression that it would happen soon, like within a decade or two. Then he goes on to speak of the end of days and makes it apparent it would be farther in the future. Sorry for not giving chapter and verse. I’m in need of some bible time! I will say that the only thing missing in this world currently for the Rapture to take place is the Temple in Jerusalem. In Revelation sacrifices are once again being performed in a restored temple. Currently the dome of the rock sits in the exact spot of where the temple would need to be for sacrifices to be lawful. Lastly, there’s no denying that we are truly in the last days. Israel is once again a nation and her Capitol is Jerusalem. Israel was returned in 1948, President Trump recognized Jerusalem as her Capitol forcing other nations to do the same. Now you have Israel making peace with Arabs. I still can’t decide if Ezekiel 38 is before or during the tribulation but I can see these peace agreements being a cause for the attack from Gog of Magog which is the area of Russia, Meshech, Tubal and Cain which is Turkey and Iran being an impetus for launching an attack. Then again I could be wrong on it all but I believe Jesus would approve of us trying to figure out, not the day or hour, of the Rapture or His return but at least within a couple years. Any comments on my opinion are welcome.

[@yeshuamaranatha1492]

The Bible doesn't say the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth. It says that the restrainer will be taken out of the way. It says the restrainer will no longer be able to restrain any more because He will be taken out of the way. They will no longer want to head the truth. If we read the rest of the chapter it says that the restrainer is the truth. It says they no longer receive the love of the truth . Context context context.

[@madambutterfly7513]

I agree with you, God isn't going to allow us Christians to go thru the tribulation, that's why we are meeting Jesus in the clouds during the Rapture! Further, what would be the point of Rapture if we're not lifted up & occuring BF the Tribulation, it would make no sense , the tribulation is going to be a horrific time for non Christians, God doesn't want us who love Him to go thru that! I didn't know RC believes we Christians would go thru the 7 yr tribulation , I'm surprised!

[@yeshuamaranatha1492]

@@madambutterfly7513 Do you know what it means in Ma 24 and Luke 17 When it says one will be taken and one will be left?

[@gabrieltoader6797]

@@madambutterfly7513 actually the Bible mentions in several instances that christians will go through the horrific times, especially in the gospel books. The belief that we will meet Jesus in the Clouds is a misinterpration from my point of view.

[@gabrieltoader6797]

@@madambutterfly7513 As for your statement "God doesn't want to allow us to go thru that", just consider for a moment the way many of the apostles died. God will repay us for sure, but this does not mean He will not allow us to suffer. Many times He let apostles in their suffering. This does not mean he loved them less, is just that sometimes He has a different way of letting things happen than what we think.

[@xanderbarr1983]

Another compelling understanding is that Jesus told them to tear this temple down, and within 3 days I will build it up..the unregenerated only saw the physical building..the babies in christ see that Jesus was raised after three days, and those learned by the spirit of truth see that the body of christ is the saved jews and the saved gentiles..the temple of God is being built back by jesus just as the ark was built by noah.Noah.. A day is as a 1000 years with the lord etc. When the ark was finished, the earth was flooded and all outside the ark were destroyed..so shall it be when the son of man is revealed from heaven..he shall send his angels, and gather together his elect ..all the elect in heaven and all the elect in earth will join in the air.. the Holy City of Jerusalem was prepared as a bride for her husband..the body of christ shall be glorified together in the air..the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and the mortal shall put on immortality..then the end comes for the wicked..after the preaching is over..just like noah..

[@michaeljmasseri973]

The End of the Age the end of the old Covenant!

[@lonestarstate6570]

Bible says "end of the world".....meaning the physical Earth, not an "age". "This generation" simply means the generation on which these judgements will fall

[@michaeljmasseri973]

@@lonestarstate6570 yeah but I'm not talkin about that and there will never be there will be a all governments and all evil and Christ will reign I was playing on this Earth for 1000 years then the devil is released there's a final battle. Thy Kingdom Come thy will be done On Earth as it is in heaven. Believe the glory of Heaven comes down on this Earth and the earth is made new. I might be wrong about Christ reigning a thousand years and then a battle theory other way around that there will be a thousand years of peace then the devil is released and then there is final battle and he is cast into the abyss forever and ever

[@lonestarstate6570]

@@michaeljmasseri973 I'm sorry but it's hard to follow what you're saying...

[@govtismiddlemanagement397]

@@michaeljmasseri973 we must rebuild our inner temples in order to receive the gift of discernment. This gift is what is referenced as the kingdom of God. We must enter this new kingdom with the naivety and curiosity of a child.

[@kenamesthewatcherchronicle6746]

I tend to disagree with Sproul's final analysis. Jesus did come into his kingdom in that Generation, and will return within the generation that sees all the things transpire that he describes in the Olivet Discourse up to his return. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world. His kindom is the Kingdom of Heaven. They did see him coming into his kingdom 40 days after his resurrection, thus fulfilling the prophesy of Daniel 7:13-14 13 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." 14 "And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." This is a prophesy af the ascention of Jesus to the throne of the father(the ancient of days). What happens when he gets there? He's given dominion, glory, and a kingdom. Christ, therefore, was seen coming into his kingdom when he ascended. All of his disciples were not there. Judas was dead. Sproul is adding to scripture when he calls the end of the age, the end of the Jewish age, and doing so for no other reason than to support hus own belief that the Millenial Kingdom began in that Generation and will continue until the return of Christ. There's a problem with his interpretation. Jesus described the cosmic anomalies at his coming and our gathering to him. Those cosmic anomalies are described in Zechariah 14 as occurring just before the Lord comes, bringing all his saints with him, and destroying the nations gathered to fight Israel on the Day of the Lord. That is the end of the age, and the beginning of the millenial kingdom. Here's the explanation of "this generation" its very clear unless you reject the plain text because it disagrees with your personal belief. "This generation" is the generation that sees "all" those things transpire that Jesus just described leading up to his return. Here's the statement by Jesus: Matthew 24:33-34 33 So likewise ye, "when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. This generation, that sees all these things transpire, shall not pass before he returns and gathers the elect. Your own ministry policy should require you to state your doctrinal position before you even start teaching on an eschotological topic.

[@rajaknowles2287]

Matthew was Jewish and therefore He focused on the Jewish impending doom. Luke gave a broad timeline up to the end. He also recorded that Jerisalem would fall which happenef 70AD And if those days werent shortened no jew would of survived

[@JD-lt7uv]

The meaning is plain and clear. Paul took it so seriously that he told people not to bother getting married, for "the time is short" - Jesus is returning soon (1 Corinthians 7:25-31). Indeed, Paul expected he and other believers would be "caught up" together in the clouds when Jesus returned (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). Today, Christians perform psychological gymnastics to justify his delay in returning by claiming, "One day is like a thousand years to the Lord." Too bad no one told his DISCIPLES who sold everything and abstained from marriage that! If a date told you to wait for them because they were nearby and almost there but did not show up for 2,000 hours, you'd admit no matter how they reinterpret words like "near," they weren't being honest with you.

[@sandramiller8701]

This generation will not end until all phopercy is full filled it's God's will.

[@JanHarris-xc4jg]

So which video is the follow up to this one?

[@Welcome_To_Life]

I recommend searching Sproul Luke 20 or 21

[@williamiannucci2740]

And until they see the coming of the Lord from whence he rose. 👍 Though we be dead yet shall we Live for he LIVES and as our APOSTLE said being One of the 12 ;of the tribes of ISRAEL; To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord who alone is LORD and what a God we serve men and brethren for he made him Lord and SAVIOR King of the Jews 👍 Oh Father in heaven Hallowed be your name for it is the Name of the KING the LAMB 👑 Our Daddy because we're converted by being born again and a body he has and will provide for us thus we are going to be called the Children of the Most high God for he is GOD our FATHER your Father who receive him being elected . Selah Amen SHALOM AMEN.

[@JakeLeidahl]

I read it as " this generation" meaning mankind will not pass away until these events happen. The end will not come until this generation/mankind see these evebts. As part of the God head He is seeing the big picture

[@theeternalslayer]

I agree, revelation I don't think is past tense or future but a view of God planning the events of the book of life showing it to those he calls on for salvation, that means Armageddon will happen but humanity still struggles and tries to stop it, meaning the end will come the earth will pass away we will but God won't and we will be able to live freely without corruption or sin until we die. The Bible shows us the way out of this cataclysm. We are living in a doomed world on course for destruction but God will take us in and take care of us.

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

That’s not consistent at all.. There is no concept of mankind. The Bible is centered around Gods covenant people. God not seeing the big picture. That literally makes no sense. You need it to be that to keep your doctrinal system in place. But that’s not what He’s saying at all.. Not to mention Jesus didn’t die to take away your sins.. He came to take away Israel’s imputed sins that the animal sacrifice couldn’t. Hebrews 9: 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance If you want to know the Reasons. Read the whole chapter. Jesus came for the redemption of the sins committed under the old covenant. Since we were never a part of the old covenant system, there isn’t any sin to be taken away from us. Now many will say well then what’s the point for us? Excellent question Paul addressed this in Romans chapter 4. 7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; 8 Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.”fn God always forgive sins. That wasn’t the problem what the problem was imputed sin they got in the way for men to be in God‘s presence. That’s what happened to Adam the garden of Eden represents God‘s presence and getting kicked out of the garden. He did not get kicked out of Eden. He got kicked out of the garden. Adam got kicked out of God‘s presence animal sacrifice, who could not take away that imputed sin. But garments of righteousness i.e. Christ took away their included sin going forward like the next verse says blessed are those who sins or not imputed that is us that is how we can be God‘s presence now. Because our sin does not reach us also known as not imputed

[@zerosparky9510]

this generation was about AD70, and go back to the OT. to see how Jesus used the language there to to talk about what would happen in AD 70. coming on the clouds is in the OT a few times. and is about God coming in Judgement. Jesus came in Judgement and Jerusalem was wiped out. Just as He said.

[@douglashazelrigg4377]

I love RC Sproul. However, I he leaves out some important parts of the Olivet Discourse, namely, this: "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." When did "all the tribes of the earth mourn [as they saw] the Son of Man coming?" That doesn't fit a 1st Century interpretation very well. There are other aspects of the discourse, which he passes over, which suggest the prophecy is regarding events at the end of history (or possibly represents a dual fulfillment, which is what I believe).

[@felixbaquillas8069]

Can it mean the day when Jesus revealed to John the things written in the book of Revelation?

[@mikelabor7688]

Very interesting post. He takes forever to get to the point, but in the last 30 seconds (?) he finally coughs up his view, which is worth hearing.

[@madambutterfly7513]

It's annoying he drags out all his sermons instead of getting right to the point, why does RC do that!???

[@mikelabor7688]

@@madambutterfly7513 Hi M B, I agree. I have no idea what the strategy was in presenting the material in this way. I watched another in the series, and in the last minute out of 24, he suddenly cuts to the chase? Weird.

[@EddieFox]

I didn't think I heard the answers to Bertrand Russel's objections to each of the four verses quoted. This is no. 5 in the series. I looked at no. 6 and there doesn't seem to be a continuation of this talk which I would be most interested to hear. Can someone guide me to the rest of this particular message/teaching please.

[@EddieFox]

@Steward Musumhi Thank you. It's not just me then. I can answer in general to these objections in a couple of passage which explains an awful lot. They are John 1:14. "He became flesh and dwelt among us." He became a man and had to grow up and learn and live life with and like us all with only human means and abilities to hand. Jesus drew on the OT scriptures, prayer and study (Luke 2:49) like the rest of us to understand and to know God. Ok so that's one reason he didn't have full divine God capabilities to know all things while He lived in a body of ordinary flesh. Here is the passage that for me blows it wide open though. Eph 2: 6 (Jesus) "Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death-even death on a cross 9 Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." See that? He "emptied Himself" of divine atributes including omniscience. Of course Jesus knows all the times, seasons, exact dates, places and people, now but as "the son of man" while on Earth He told His disciples, "no man knows the hour, not even the 'son of man' or the angels. It's notable that a Russel perhaps had not researched that far? So. I would love to have heard Sproul's teaching. I hope someone can direct us to the right place to hear.

[@EddieFox]

@Steward Musumhi No, I don't believe he did brother.

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

@@EddieFox I think he didn’t answer it, and at the very last couple sentences of the video he put it at the judgment of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple but he also espoused a future second coming that will end human kind. Which is what All Christians think. , but that is incorrect that is not in the Bible Jesus is second appearing is tied to salvation Hebrews 9 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Luke 21. He tells the disciples when you see Jerusalem’s walls surrounded by armies, know that the end is near. There is no other end except the old cabinet age. Not the end of human history or mankind. None of that is in the Bible. There is no concept of mankind as we think of it in the ancient world. If you verses down, he says lift up your heads For your redemption/salvation draws near. Paul preached the resurrection is the hope of Israel and he gets that message from Moses, the law and the prophets. The Jews were offended by that message? Not sure why but I don’t think they would be offended at physical bodies coming out of the ground at the end of some future end of human history. Resurrection, which is the hope of Israel with Paul Sid was near is going from old covenant of death and separation to new covenant of life. That is all in Matthew 24, Luke, 21, and Mark 13. Revelation is the story of the destruction of the Jews, and their punishment and their consequential divorce. I.e. the second death got already divorced in the northern 10 tribes. You can read about that in second kings in the northern 10 tribes is the northern kingdom which the writer,calls Israel. And God divorce is the Jews, which is the southern kingdom.

[@irishslave51]

If it was 70 AD, the KING would already be here... HE stated when you see all these things, look up your redemption is nigh... Well, the KING isn't here yet, so it couldn't be 70 AD...

[@thestream1]

And what about the phrase "this generation" not passing away till what He said happened? according to you, which generation what He talking about?

[@katula14]

@@thestream1 The generation, ie a group of people living at the time that the signs that Jesus listed began to happen. They will not pass until all the signs carry out, from the first to the last. ''...ALL these things be fulfilled.''

[@Qhther]

This is awesome

[@danielshaolin6053]

This is demonic

[@cordsman]

@@danielshaolin6053 how

[@danielshaolin6053]

@@cordsman Because Full-Preterism is a wicked deception… Claiming that all Biblical prophecy has been fulfilled.

[@stevergee]

Well it obviously can not refer the generation at the time. We are 2000 years down the road and Jesus has not returned yet. Does that make sense?

[@stevergee]

When Jesus returns He will return physically and visibly to the mount of Olives. So we should have no problem understanding that the generation he is talking about is the Generation at the time of the end not 70 AD. Also the verse 36 which he says is verse 32 incorrectly is not talking about the return of Christ but rather the day when heaven and earth pass away. So he is now building an argument base on a misunderstanding of verse 36. RC is injecting all kinds of things into the scripture that is not even there.

[@AnNtD_fHtR]

The numerical value of ישראל (Israel in Hebrew) is 541. The 541st word of Matthew is Israel. ΙΣΡΑΗΛ (Israel in Greek) has the numerical value of 349. 349 is the "70th" prime number. The Temple was destroyed in 70AD. Accident? 🔥🕊️🔥

[@pieterfischer9638]

Generation can also refer to an age

[@ryte2229]

Preterism is the simplest answer that rc is avoiding

[@Elvengem]

"This generation"didnt mean the 1st century generation.Its about the generation that sees all the matthew 24 signs,once the Gospel has been preached in all the world and then the end comes. The gospel was not preached in all the world in the first century.

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

Jesus didn’t say the ge oration that sees. He said THIS GENERATION.. And some of those signs Jesus said are in Acts. This generation always mean this generation.. Every time He used THIS GENERATION it was always HIS. A future generation is THAT generation Plus He told the High Priest He would see Him coming on clouds of glory. Plus Matt 16 last 2 verses. Plus revelation 1:1,3,7 last chapter when Jesus says I’m coming Quickly 3 times. Also Hebrews 10: “For yet a little while, And Hefn who is coming will come and will not tarry. His coming WIL NOT BE DELAYED. As per all the GOSPLE must be preached to all the world. Paul addressed this a few time. Romans 1: 8 ¶ First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world Paul said it already has. You issue is your understanding of these words. World isn’t how we think of it today. Their world is the covenant world. Not our planet intertwined with humanity. I’ll leave this short.

[@tyroneanderson8270]

Good lecture.

[@robyne2260]

Was there a “day and hour” of 70 AD, or was it more of an ongoing weeks long event?

[@AB-ComeLordJesus]

Good question.

[@michaeljmasseri973]

Absolutely correct!

[@georgelulgjuraj1007]

I thought “this generation” refers to that generation that is alive when all of “these things” unfold.

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

It is.. they would see the temple fall.. signs of His coming.. and His coming.

[@ChaZ-cp6qw]

You thought wrong

[@bible4528]

The entire argument hangs on the meaning of “this generation”. Certainly, this phrase can mean something other than the assumed argument of a biological group of people - life span.

[@katula14]

The simplest and most obvious meaning is that it's a group of people living at the certain time frame. Otherwise Jesus' answer makes no sense, at least not for my brains.

[@henrydavis7087]

The language of Mathew 24 and 25 is corresponding to book revelation, so if it’s all fulfill I. 70AD why is John writing revelation after 70AD, this gospel of the kingdom will preach in all the world as witness to all Nations, then end will come, that didn’t happen in 70AD, great tribulation it is said never another one like it, yet revelation talks about tribulation, they is so much language there that to say it all fulfill 70AD

[@createwithme5458]

Isn’t there a passage in the bible that deliberately states preterism is false though? There is a passage that says something like “and those will come who teach falsely that the rapture has already occurred” I’ll find it

[@createwithme5458]

I can’t find it its going to take me a while now because it’s not coming up when I google it It is not the “false prophets” warning It is a warning against almost the exact teachings of the preterists, who say Christ already came, that all of the events have already cone to pass. Anyone know what I’m talking about? It is in the New Testament

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

No.. Paul talks about two people, Fleites and Alexander. Or Hymenaeus and Alexander in one of the Timothy‘s. And he does not say nothing about the rapture. What he says is those two people are saying that resurrection has already happened. And that message is overthrowing the faith of some. what are you guys have to figure out is that the physical bodies coming out of the ground is resurrection. How is anybody fooled that the resurrection has already happened. Resurrection happens when the temple is fallen and old Covenant Israel is no longer. Resurrection is going from a Old Covenant to new covenant. So why are the message of the resurrection already happening over throwing the faith of some. Well, those two are Judaizers and they want Christ plus the law. And if they spread the message that resurrection happened and the temple is still standing then their message that they are spreading is true.

[@TomasoAnbraten]

@@createwithme5458you seem to not have understood all of the arguments that RC was putting forth because he refers to two different kinds of preterists: full preterists, who believe that all of the prophecy has been fulfilled, and partial preterists, who believe that some of it has been fulfilled. You also confused his argument about the rapture, he doesn’t argue that it already happened, he argues that it won’t happen until the Day of the Lord at the end of history. You can’t find the text you’re thinking of because it doesn’t exist.

[@davidmathews9633]

You can't dance around it. Scripture clearly says Jesus returned in 70 ad. So now what?

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

Now we live in new covenant LIFE.. we are grafted into Israel’s salvation. There is no hell.. no fallen angels.. it’s all about going from a covenant of death.. (separated from Gods presence) to LIFE (being in Gods presence.) PAUL said it best. Romans 4: 7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; (Life under the old covenant. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.” Life in the new covenant. Our sin isn’t IMPUTED to us like it was under the old covenant. That is what’s now. We are the temple where God Dwells.

[@johnirish989]

Preterism has officially been laid to rest. KZbin MZTV 336 and 1137-39. 1138 specifically addresses the all-important This generation mistranslation.

[@JakeBusch-e1l]

(X) Doubt

[@trobace]

You are right. A generation is limited to 42 years. However, you are so busy trying to defend the false doctrine of Preterism, you can't see the truth revealed in scripture. The generation at time did see the fulfillment of all that Jesus mentioned. Jesus pronounced desolation upon the temple and Jerusalem in Matthew 23:36-38. All the abominations that caused desolation is recorded in Matthew chapter 23. Apparently, the disciples did not understand what Jesus was saying in Matthew 23. Otherwise, they would not have been admiring the temple. And being so surprised of Jesus pronouncing its destruction. They asked when shall these things be? What shall be the sign of your coming to restore Jerusalem? See Acts 1:6-7. Jesus never answered their question, with a date. This simple means the exact year or date of Jerusalem's destruction was not important to Jesus. What was important to jesus is that they would make sure they understand the abomination that caused desolation to Jerusalem. The date of Jerusalems destination in 70 AD was never mentioned as the year of what Jesus was referring to that would be fulfilled. As recorded in Acts 1: 6-7. Will you at this time restore the kingdom to israel? The kingdom was restored at pentecost. In Acts 2:17 Pentecost is identified as the beginning of the last days or the end of the world. It was the beginning when that generation saw all things to be fulfilled. They saw the restoration of the kingdom to israel. Pentecost is when they Egan to take the gospel of the kingdom to all the world. They saw deception deception from false profits. They came to a clear knowledge and understanding Of the abomination that calls desolation to Jerusalem. The final destruction of jerusalem in 70 AD It's just one of the events that took place in the last days or the end of the world. 70 AD was not the end. Because the gospel of the kingdom has still been preached all over the world. False profits are still deceiving people. Dark clouds are still causing the sun which is the church age to be darkened. It's all still happening. People on tuesday are still being born again of the Spirit Being resurrected to a new life. Still happening. Unto this day. Because people are still building buildings and calling them the house of God We are still living in the last days the end time. All that jesus mentioned is still being fulfilled. .

[@TRUMP-2024-STF]

We are not living in the last days lol less days do not last 2000 years. There is only one last days, is the last days of the old covenant. Matthew 517 and 18 Jesus says do not think that I came to destroy the law and the prophets butts to fulfill. Not one jot or not one tittle of the law will by no means pass till heaven and earth pass away. Today’s Christians like to think that the war ended at the cross lol. But Paul preached that resurrection was the hope of Israel. Jesus is second coming, had to do with as per Hebrews complete salvation if Jesus did not come in second time, then there is no salvation. Judge old covenant, Israel, and end old covenant Israel. Yes, they did see all those signs that is correct. And as Jesus third, and Matthew 16, last two verses, they were some of you standing here will not taste death until you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom with his holy Angels. Jesus is talking about the second coming. Same in Matthew 24, same in Luke, 21 same in Matthew 13.

[@preservativetalkradio]

Read the Hebrew Matthew 24, verse 34. The word "ZeH" can mean "this, that, one, a, his, the, it is". If we are confused, get as close as you can to the original. In the context of the entire passage, it is talking about the full manifestation of varied horrible things, not merely what happened in Jerusalem in a.D. 70. If you change "this" generation to mean the generation which he was describing rather than the generation in which his audience was living, it makes much more sense. If you consider that in the Hebrew "this" may not have been what was said in the context of the message. "ZeH" could have meant "that generation" "a generation" "the generation" sending the message that it would indeed "Amen" (truly) happen, that date would not be known, but that all of the described events would be experienced by a single generation some day.

[@yeoberry]

Matthew isn't written in Hebrew. It's written in Greek. ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη ἕως ἂν πάντα ταῦτα γένηται. There is no word "ZeH" in it.

[@preservativetalkradio]

@@yeoberry You are incorrect. It was written in Hebrew according to the that which was written about it by early church leaders, and translated into rough Greek, and later refined Greek, and other languages.

[@yeoberry]

@@preservativetalkradio : You’re lying. You’re blathering about things you know nothing about. You need to know that all liars go to hell (Rev 22:15). You need to repent and examine yourself as to whether you’re really “in the faith” (2 Cor 13:5).

[@preservativetalkradio]

@@yeoberry Look at the first word in the Greek as you seen it there. The word is spelled in the Greek letters "AMEN" Truly in Greek would be αληθινά. It was written in Hebrew... translated into rough greek, and then cleaned up a bit later.

[@preservativetalkradio]

some of the Hebrew idioms were preserved in the rough Greek

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

This generation God talking about is the generation of evil , I do believe . Because as long as this world exists the generation of evil always exists. God also said His words will never end , because God Himself will bring this world existence and than this generation will end when God create the new earth and new heaven .

[@jimmattson8008]

But the Jewish people are being punished in today's generation and yesterday's generation...etc.

[@LR-yu3mx]

I see it asthe first gemeration was before the flood. And the generation after tje flood is us

[@stereotype5868]

What scripture says that ?

[@yedigyaeve2662]

Considering context, syntax, grammar and cross reference, the message is clear. Matt 23 is what led up to 24 & 25. "Behold your [the Eveo] house [Temple] is left desolate... You will see me no more until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of Yeve Mawu. This is why the question concerning the temple's destruction, which was understood to be his coming, was asked by his disciples. There's no doubt that Matt 24 & 25 are relate to the 1st century Eveo and Mystery Babylon is Yerusalema destroyed in 70 AD. Yehoshee came in the same way it was written in The Testsment that the Father came. Here is reveals, he is both Yeve Mawu and Christ.

[@lonestarstate6570]

"Some of you will not taste death"... So if we're going to think logically about this passage, we need to ask who was there when Jesus said it, and who died before 70AD. Jesus said "some" of you will not taste death. Surely Judas was present when Jesus said this, obviously Judas tasted death before 70AD. But what does Jesus mean by "death"? Is he only talking about physical death? Jesus said in John 8:51.... "Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death." Obviously Judas did not keep Jesus's words, he died! Is it possible Jesus is making this reference, that out of the disciples he's talking to, some of them will continue to have eternal life because they will keep his words? With that scripture in mind, every single disciple that was there listening has eternal life and technically hasn't tasted death, even to this day!

[@JD-lt7uv]

None of the words of Jesus have any meaning when you can simply take each individual word and mold it mean something totally different. 😆

[@shorelinebaptistchurch4169]

I think R.C. could be right, but it seems to me there is another alternative: 'this generation' is stated within a parable about a fig tree. Fig trees, leaves, and fruit are major themes of the Old Testament starting in Eden. It is possible that Jesus is giving us a clue to how to narrow this down using this metaphor about summer being near based on leaves sprouting on the tree without fruit yet forming.

[@shorelinebaptistchurch4169]

I'm not certain about this, but it seems to me that the 'fig tree' symbolizes ethnic Israel. You remember the fig tree that only had leaves but no fruit. Jesus cursed this tree and it withered and died. This was just prior to Jesus pronouncing woes on Jerusalem. Perhaps fig leaves symbolize human attempts at righteousness, while fruit is the righteousness which is by faith in Jesus. Adam and Eve sewed aprons of fig leaves in the garden and yet still hid from God because they were naked. Jeremiah 24 has a prophecy about two baskets of figs in reference to Israel as God distinguished between the faithful and unfaithful in the exile of Judah. Luke 13 has a parable about a fig tree that isn't producing fruit obviously aimed at the religious leaders in Israel.

[@vikchoban]

Israel was re est in 1948, many prophesied the end in 1988. Didnt happen. So it is wrong.

[@oneofmany7768]

@@shorelinebaptistchurch4169 Fig trees are strange in that they produce fruit before leaves. A tree with leaves but no fruit is barren and worthless, like the tree Jesus cursed when it had no fruit on it but it was in leaf. And yes, the fig tree is often a symbol for Israel.

[@ancientastronauttheoristss9345]

there is no way of getting around that, plus you also have to deal with other verses like matthew 10:23 which says the disciples will not finish going through the cities of Israel before Jesus comes. just accept the truth for what it is.

[@angieh4534]

John saw the destruction of Israel..

[@nostringsonme7588]

I disagree with his surmation on the Mathew verse usage of the word generation. I believe there is duality in some interpretation of the words, having a literal and a spiritual application for both that generation and every generation since He Said it.

[@sheldonbass4238]

Does the end of the Jewish age in God's plan coincide with the separation of Daniel's final week from those weeks that preceded it?

[@eternalgospels]

Ok, check this out. Jesus spoke aramaic. The word that in all antiquities documents that got translated from aramaic to greek for denoting race was sharbatta. Sharbatta means race. When these ancient document got translated to greek the word "Genea" was used to render it. But if you are not convinced, then let talk some real revelation here assuming anyone persists that generation means a timespan of those alive at a certain point in time. Let me enlighten you, your noodles 🤯 are going to get baked by the following statements below. Matthew, Chapter 1, verse 1, lists the physiological ancestry of Jesus, ending with His name in verse 16. Verse 17 divides this list into 3 groupings consisting of 14 names per group. However, if you count the names in each group, you will come up one name short in the last group, making the name Jesus 13th in that group. What happened to 3 groups of 14 generations each? But Matthew does not say, “14 generations from the Babylonian exile to Jesus” . He says “14 generations from the Babylonian exile to Christ”. This means when Jesus was born, he was at the 13th generation, when he died it was the begining of the 14th generation. He ressurected to never die again. A generation is normally understood not in time but a group of people living at a certain time together. Since Jesus predicted this at the end of his ministry, the 14th generation, he ressurected at the 14th generation and since he comes from that 14th generation, immortal, then he is right when he said "This generation shall not pass away, since hes from the 14th generation, because HE LIVES! Since Jesus is both 100% human, and 100% divine, Jesus Christ is both the 13th and 14th generations. It is this 14th generation, the generation of the Christ, the generation of the anointed, that will never pass away before all of His promises are fulfilled. This generation is not measured in the element of time, but in the element of eternity. There you have it.

[@peterjohn2819]

generation 80years not 40 in jesus times. Wheres the sea turned to blood etc and hail from heaven. Trying to believe your teachings but some things not as bible teachings according to other christian teachings.

[@GoldAndSilver988]

Good except for the false doctrine of a dual nature, which came straight out of Gnostic philosophy.

[@adamgilliland273]

I believe the generation mentioned that will not pass away is the fourth kingdom or feet of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream. The Roman empire that still covers the earth ,like Nebuchadnezzar's tree, with infrastructure and civic law.