This gentleman was taking photos of you.

[@shiaras4675]

As far as I remember, because it's been a while since I saw this ep, the police were on alert around the woman because she was receiving death threats. And I think there was already an attempt on her life? So they're suspicious of the guy.

[@RoamerMovie-su5os]

yep

[@veronicacrabtreehill6608]

True. She had a threat on her life.

[@lilogonzales6625]

She's kind of dumb.....😂

[@marlenealt3597]

The camera guy freaked me out. His behavior was way off😮.

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@shiaras4675 I can understand why the police were suspicious, but that’s not the standard of reasonable articulable suspicion. You can never use a person exercising a right as grounds for RAS.

[@networkmarketingtips782]

that guy look like he paid the stalker 100%

[@_scarez_]

if you watched the series youd know that he was just a friend of the girl officer

[@GabesGaming01]

Correction husband and father of there child

[@sirmorosisgames7197]

At least she getting a warrant ig 🤷‍♂️

[@Raccoonocity]

The dude that walked up, always just pisses me off, he gets mad at the fact the cops are doing their job, and when they do something nice yet he Still hates them I just don't understand him, he hates cops doing nothing, but then they do something and he still gets mad

[@meraj205]

He doesn't trust the police because of how they have unfairly treated his community.

[@masterblaster6703]

Realistic in that regard

[@socketyellow3]

Based off real people

[@veronicacrabtreehill6608]

​@@socketyellow3 Tell that to the script writers.

[@OJLJ_]

Because he is black and he still thinks that blacks are being oppressed by cops… he doesn't see that their kind are the ones committing the most crimes in the country

[@josephhurst4902]

Actually if they tricked him into giving permission, OR his Camera has the last photo displayed on the screen, those they need no permission to view.

[@Ubersnipe]

If they demand it, that is unlawful and inadmissible in court. If he hands it over willingly and with consent, that is a lawful search. Tricking him into agreeing to do something that he is not legally required to do is underhanded and despicable, regardless of what he's done. He has rights and is innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around

[@Marsproject11]

@@Ubersnipe Police are 100% allowed to lie to him and its perfectly legal for them to do it if it involves them getting his willing consent.

[@55Quirll]

@@Ubersnipe They may only want to see what he was photographing and why, scare him into telling him who he was working for.

[@mr.chicken688]

Wild that the victim is on the stalkers side

[@alwaystruetoblue]

She is on the side of the law not the stalker.

[@meraj205]

She's a professor of law and ethics, so she's acting on principal, not on favor.

[@loganwalker8537]

Her life is in danger A attempt was already made And yet shed protect her potential stalker​@alwaystruetoblue

[@rb3k157]

@@loganwalker8537we don’t get to pick and choose what laws we follow and when we follow them.

[@loganwalker8537]

@@rb3k157 ahh so your a idiot that would rather be murdered than see your potentioal murderer hand over potential evidence that could save your life, got it

[@Minimish28]

Bro that guy who walked up pisses me off so much, like the guy is so mad that the cops are apparently racist for arresting people who commit crimes. Now he’s siding with the stalker just because he hates cops

[@lordvika2526]

That's a typical cop hater. They don't care what the police are doing they will find any reason, to hate on the police.

[@JamesMerlaut]

On another video I'm in a debate with a guy who is defending the criminal because Tim (same show) had a blood sample taken from him. The guy in question was DUI and killed two people.

[@lordvika2526]

@@JamesMerlaut the police can legally take a blood sample from a person to test for blood alcohol levels. Depending on the circumstances they may need a warrant to do so .

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@lordvika2526 Oh dw, I've explained it to him like 5 times by now... he's still not getting it... it's the cop hate

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@Turtleisaman Doesn't change anything OP said about him

[@linb5216]

Why the background music! Really not necessary and it’s annoying!

[@ShebaB2017]

It's TV. Where is the paragraph guy?

[@solitaryreaper9951]

Supporting your own stalker. Wow. Its literally wild.

[@ainsleymalcolm6809]

Stupid people are often times their own worst enemy

[@kirkengnath5501]

Potential stalker with overly high love or lust interest.

[@damiandavis612]

Yandere

[@waterbradone5476]

Fax

[@rashs8907]

Waooo, I am in shock. He took pictures of her, and she and the other guy or husband or boyfriend or brother became his lawyers. OMG 😱 😱 . Maybe it is because he is ----- and they -----.

[@Iwozere]

Shoehorning race into a fictional show. Well done.

[@meraj205]

She's a professor of law and ethics, and he's a community member in a neighborhood that has been often targeted unfairly by law enforcement so he doesn't trust the police. Also, Officer Nolan is one of her students. It helps if you understand the context of the show instead of making assumptions.

[@Iwozere]

@@meraj205 read the comment above mine.

[@meraj205]

@@Iwozere your comment is the first I see under rash's. I was replying to rash.

[@naasryt]

😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂This is hilarious. Ama paa

[@alliehereforu9933]

She's from shameless

[@HolgerDanske]

You DON'T have the right to detain him. Reasonable articulable· suspicion.

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

They caught him commiting stalking and the victim and a bystander who has no idea what's going on are going to side with the stalker. There have been huge idiots in history and those two are trying to get in the top 10.

[@shainenn1041]

Taking photos can't be deemed suspicions because it falls under the first amendment to free press

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

@@shainenn1041 but he wasn't working for press nor had anything indicating such. Also he wasn't taking pictures of anything news worthy. He wasn't taking pictures of a celebrity or an important event, he was taking pictures of, by most, a random woman.

[@jedicrafterjc7933]

Unreasonably he’s stalking and taking photos which is probable cause

[@tubro541]

Based on the clip, the cops are in the wrong, but we don't have context or any background information.

[@shiaras4675]

@@tubro541 For context: the police were on high alert around the woman because she was receiving death threats and there's already been an attempt on her life. That's why the police were there in the first place.

[@lcoopcooperl]

If people think these are dumb, unrealistic dialogues, they're actually not... I think this is more intended to thoroughly explain to the public their rights rather than for pure entertainment purposes. Which I think is better than mind-numbing garbage.

[@LilacDaisy2]

She's in public. He's allowed.

[@faizfarhan99]

When someone stalking you, you report at the police and you mad at the police because they can’t do anything because nothing actionable, now when the police try to do something to protect you from stalker, then you try to protect your stalker! Next time don’t bother the police by lodge a police report about the stalker. Just hire the bodyguard. Let the police do their job by protecting someone else that need their protection.

[@xenaguy01]

The guy who walked up is correct. The COPS need a warrant to search his camera. But then the COPS are also correct, they can detain him until rheir warrant arrives.

[@deweyplanck9850]

No they can’t. It’d be thrown out in a second with a mediocre lawyer. You can’t detain a person unless he’s committed a crime or you have reasonable articulable suspicion that he is about to commit a crime. Exercising a right cannot be used as a suspicion of either. Doing something someone finds suspicious is not a crime or an indication that they are going to. Even if he’s enamored by her and is taking her picture that’s not a crime. It could just as easy be argued that since he is enamored by her he would be less likely to harm her. What they could have done is ask him about his activity but he’s not obligated to engage with them at all.

[@xenaguy01]

@@deweyplanck9850 RAS means suspicion that there is criminal activity. "Is currently being, has been, or will be committed." They have RAS that he is committing the crime of Stalking, or Harassment. I watch 1st Amendment auditors too, but can tell the diff between stalking and exercising a right.

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@xenaguy01 If he has the right to film, the SCOTUS has been very clear about this, it cannot be suspicion to exercise that right. For the same reason that pleading the fifth is not an indication of guilt. It is totally unreasonable to say if he’s exercising a right it is suspicion of anything. And it’s been deemed by the court that’s it’s unlawful for LEOs to use that as suspicion.

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@xenaguy01 No the don’t have RAS that he’s stalking. If they do what is it. Bear in mind you can not use a person exercising a right that they have as RAS. The SCOTUS has been very clear that if you have a right to do something, doing that activity cannot be used as RAS and it is not an indication of guilt.

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@xenaguy01 RAS means reasonable articulable suspicion. That’s a much higher standard than suspicion. I believe you when you say you watch the auditors however, you need to listen while you watch. By definition if he has the right to do it, it does not meet the standard of reasonable or articulable. It can never be reasonable to say that exercising a right is in any way an indication of guilt or meets the standard of RAS.

[@rashs8907]

I was a real fanatic of this series until I saw this chapter and another one. Not anymore

[@rosannamendoza9825]

Even you knew that guy, it doesn't matter what he saying and taking pictures of you without your permission is very suspicious. You didn't know who is him now.

[@Ubersnipe]

It is important to note that taking pictures and videos of what can be seen and heard from publicly accessible areas is something that the Supreme Court has determined is a legal exercise of First Amendment rights

[@obijuan-]

COPS HARASSING A CITIZEN PERFORMING PUBLIC PHOTOGRAPHY. WHERE's YOUR PROBABLY CAUSE OLD WOMAN COP?

[@tsoul1333]

he's a stalker and the woman defends him, if it was me I'd say: you wanna defend your stalker? fine good luck, bye.

[@jhung2479]

But in reality, people will say a lot of bad things to the Police Officers for doing exactly this, for doing their job.

[@Therando-d9d]

The black guy got mad at people for helping and somehow ended up marrying nyla tho

[@johnwebb7225]

Public photography first amendment protected activity kick rocks

[@jimreimers4213]

She does not know (the police) at all. Well, she doesn't care about the law at all.

[@meraj205]

She's a professor of law and ethics. She absolutely cares about the law.

[@JPF941]

Realize this is a tv show and not based on reality at all right?

[@stephanc6138]

catch and release. nxt time she might not be so lucky.

[@francisvilbig]

Stalker serial killer mass murder no movie 🎥 right’s

[@stonedgoddess420]

Actually you can photograph anything in public. Even people. There's a whole channel dedicated to it 🤣 the difference comes in the intent. Channel does Polaroids and gives then to the person. Always positive responses. Again INTENT is key. And it also matters if youre ugly or attractive. Its creepy for ugly dudes to do it but if a cute guy does It...its fine 🤣

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Hello, we have no idea of Constitutional rights

[@andrewlin6136]

Screw the law, you can carry gun around but not click pic

[@naasryt]

Ghetto lady sɛn😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Liawino]

Heh. Cops that listen.

[@Dozz03]

idk US law, but uhhhh, isn't it only a Law issue if they search without consent? like, if they asked to see i, and he said yes and showed them that he had done nothing wrong.... then that's his own doing? no? like, how its a crime to steal but if someone gives you something willingly its... ya know, not? maybe i just don't understand the issue.

[@techno6467]

No… thats reasonable suspicion…

[@alexandermoran7783]

Actually technically they can arrest him take the camera cause it is probable cause since he is clearly stalking and her car was broken into and he is now a suspect

[@bobswanson8464]

Lawyers were 100% correct, cannot take anything they want to prove there MIGHT be a crime.

[@MightyBison4]

That professor and the other guy who ends up marrying Harper are so annoying. I hated them

[@lThellRockl]

i personally think they shouldnt have helped her at all, saw the ep and still standby what i said

[@bananer5644]

They have the right to take your property, not sure about checking it without a warrent tho

[@Op3ium_]

What does taking photos gotta do with breaking into her car 😂

[@grimgrinners]

Probable cause. They have the right to seize and search.

[@pasques]

they can take the camera, but not search it until the warrant

[@madelaine3803]

The law is a double sword depending which side your on.

[@naasryt]

Rotfl😂😂😂😂😂

[@plucas9324]

There is no expectation of privacy in public. He can take all the pictures he wants of her unless she has a restraining order against him. They had no right to ask what he was doing, no right to tell him to stop, no right to demand his camera, and no basis for a warrant.

[@SammyTheClam]

Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case she was potentially the target of a stalker and had death threats. So given the fact that he was taking pictures in her direction possibly of her, they would have the reasonable suspicion to stop him. Does that amount to probable cause needed for a warrant, i believe a judge would determine that I think but I don't know. I am not a lawyer, just some random guy on the internet so take this with a grain of salt.

[@hosiercraft9675]

Looks like a blatant violation of the 4th amendment to me

[@TheAussielotl]

im gonna come take pictures of you without your consent :)

[@morgancason7156]

Which is why they are going to get a warrant

[@robertramsey653]

​@morgancason7156 only because she got called out.

[@morgancason7156]

@@robertramsey653 yes, but she asked to see his camera and he was likely gonna give to her until they told him he didn't have unless she had a warrant as we see she didn't take it by force

[@John-h3z9q]

In real life they have no legal right to do what they're doing it's called the first amendment he can take pictures of whoever and whatever he wants to from a public space regardless of how anyone feels and the cops have no legal authority to do what they're doing in this scene

[@simonedegroot905]

Isn't it that because of someone feeling threatened, stalked or if the guy is being a public nuisance or if there's reasonable suspicion they can do something?

[@sinlordpink8147]

No. That's not true. Depending on the state, this can very much be illegal. For example, this show is set in a two-party consent state, which would make it against the law to actively record a specific individual like he's doing without their consent.

[@warflame5912]

​​@@sinlordpink8147 pretty sure a two party consent law only prohibits secretly recording conversations, not taking pictures of someone. Also, in the US specifically, you have a constitutional right to take pictures of anyone or anything, including private property or government building or people and anything that is viewable from public property and police aren't allowed to interfere.

[@WilliamL-vj9ed]

Dam yall out here lawyering and I’m here trying to figure out wtf is going on

[@Supreme_Dalek_]

That is not what the first amendment is.

[@Brownsfantilltheend]

Actually if it is on a camera than cops don’t need a warrant because it can be easily deleted

[@GrinningJest3r]

That's not true at all. Police need a warrant to search ANYTHING you own.

[@toasty8547]

Thats not how it works. Police are not supposed to delete pictures unless with a court order or would directly prevent a crime. (Insert im not a lawyer]

[@DaMunkeeking]

They need a warrant but based on suspicion they can detain you to get said warrant

[@Brownsfantilltheend]

@@GrinningJest3r mb guess I thought wrong

[@Brownsfantilltheend]

@@DaMunkeeking ohh my I though wrong then

[@jpdevito]

Unreasonable search

[@drhalinah111]

Stalking

[@JasonAguirre]

Sad that even the fictional cops don't know the law. A stop cannot be prolonged to secure evidence of a crime where none exists.

[@Alex-cc8yf]

Stalking isn't a crime?

[@shainenn1041]

​@@Alex-cc8yfyes but taking pictures can't be considered suspicious

[@Alex-cc8yf]

@shainenn1041 According to a lot of comments here, the woman had already received several death threats and an attempt on her life. Someone taking pictures of her of all people seems pretty suspicious to me

[@rileyfang]

What episode

[@breeze8756]

Are they crazy? He's obviously guilty. The police are trying to protect her and she defends the creep? She's a creep!😮

[@chillboi1476]

If there’s reasonable suspicion and it can be backed up you don’t need a warrant

[@deweyplanck9850]

If there’s reasonable articulable suspicion, there’s a difference. He has to be doing something more than exercising a right to make it articulable suspicion. Also she’s not allowed to hold him till she gets a warrant. You can’t detain a person who is not committing a crime unless you have cause that he’s about to commit a crime.

[@chillboi1476]

@@deweyplanck9850 you can hold someone for 48 hrs with no reason

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@chillboi1476 Nope you have to have reasonable articulable suspicion of something. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a crime but RAS still comes into play. Also it depends on who is arresting you. These are city cops. The feds have broader investigative powers than they do. They also have a higher standard to bring charges. For instance they have to show that it reaches the requirements for them to intervene. Some state cases they can take the case and some they can’t.

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@chillboi1476 No you can’t. RAS still comes into play. It doesn’t have to be a suspicion of a crime but you still have to have reasonable articulable suspicion of something.

[@maryshafer3226]

That is law gave to cop now when you took picture of me yougo jail rest life photo nooooo creama front of me or I will tell judmnt law for him jail period

[@styxx5613]

Yeah she doesnt get to detain him. There is no proof he did any crime. Thats a lawsuit. Even if a warrent then comes what they find will be inadmissible because the original detainment was unlawful. Kidnapping basically.

[@iowagreen8932]

Stalking is a crime.

[@silvos8903]

​@@iowagreen8932They have no proof he had even been around her. Even if the warrant comes and the pictures prove something, it will all be tossed out. There is no lawful expectation of privacy in public. You can be photographed and recorded and there's nothing you can do about it.

[@joshuagiehll3737]

1 stalking is a crime 2 she has recieved death threats, that's why the police are keeping an eye on her. 3 the one officer watched him take photos of her and bases on his responses acting really suspicious. Arguably the cops wouldn't even need a warrant.

[@robertramsey653]

​@@silvos8903fruit of the poisonous tree.

[@ering9564]

He was caught in the act by an officer. So it is reasonable to believe a crime (stalking) was being committed - NO Warrant needed. If it was only an accusation from someone else, then a warrant would be needed.

[@Ubersnipe]

Taking pictures and video of what is observable from a publicly accessible location is a First Amendment protected activity. You can even film others if you wish. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy while in public

[@ImPickleboy]

Show name?

[@RoamerMovie-su5os]

Show: The rookie

[@sb1012]

@@RoamerMovie-su5osSeason and Episode?

[@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor]

This is why I despise KZbinrs who go around openly filming places and people and then who get irate when questioned about it. Like it’s obviously suspicious behavior. You’re doing it for views. 😅 annoying

[@sirkylanthered]

Nah this is why you call for a commanding officer and tell a cop to get a warrant if they want to take or search your personal belongings without reasonable need to search you. All you a$$ kissers going off on "they're just doing their jobs eeehhhhh" The 4th amendment exists for a reason.

[@RabidNemo]

You know as a photographer myself there's definitely a degree of keeping things ethical with what you take photos of but he's right when you're in a public space you can take pictures of whatever you can see without permission

[@solangehogue4179]

Weirdo

[@magicplayer3001]

Good thing the weak yoga teacher and her wife don’t have a job after this for interfering in cop’s business

[@DanielMiller-i7f]

John is such a great Cop ,we need COPS like him in real life

[@cheetoesfrank5131]

It's not unreasonable, he's suspected of a crime and so it's reasonable for them to get his camera. If the camera is locked like how a phone can be locked they need a warrant, but otherwise not.

[@atty.fernandog.madarcos8724]

No dude, not how the law works at all.