This Guy Tried to "FIX" the Les Paul

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[@Trog]

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[@scotthumphrey99]

Why did he add an extra strap button on the cut away?

[@jacobsmith6773]

theres a strap button on the horn...why?

[@silvermica]

@@scotthumphrey99 I believe it's for a harness that goes around your waist - taking the weight off of the player's shoulder. I know the guy selling the guitar - and I'd seem him with that harness for his guitar.

[@silvermica]

@@jacobsmith6773 - it's for a waist harness

[@jacobsmith6773]

@@silvermica just looked itup looks like it distributes the load evenly. thanks!

[@SHENDOH]

That man knew what he wanted out of his LP. I admire that. A true player. I will never understand collector logic. My guitars are played

[@jacobfelix8577]

Same here. I collect but to play what I have. Even trade for other guitars. Sometimes it’s a regret tho

[@HauntedGuitarMan]

Well maybe not so much, it is for sale.

[@SHENDOH]

@@HauntedGuitarMan not mine. I use them as tools. Why sell your tools

[@RoboSteave]

I'm with you on this. The most important thing to me about a guitar is how it plays, i.e. feels. How it sounds is next but not as important as you can control that with the amp and pedals. Funniest thing about collectors is if a guitar looks beat up. Done at the factory? Worth more. Done by the owner? Worth less. Yeah, that works.

[@StephenG1991]

But it was done in a sloppy and not actually necessary way. Could have just bought a string butler.

[@ronaldjacobsen3004]

What about the strap button on the horn?

[@russellflagg8519]

same thing I was waiting to hear about.

[@philmazzie3674]

It has a strap button on the horn. What else could there be to find out?

[@dw7704]

Wondering that myself

[@DoubleDguitar]

Bam, it’s a lefty.

[@edgardo034]

Is there a strap button on the cut side? WTF

[@jyo9735]

its ambidextrous now

[@mouseanalyse]

Yep, just noticed that too. Maybe lefty player where recessing the pots would make a lot of sense. On the other hand the shaved heel makes less sense for a leftie… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@davidfaustino4476]

​@@mouseanalysethe pots aren't even recessed. They stick out just as far as a stock guitar. This guy just really wanted to destroy his Gibson.

[@stop736]

When you consider the amount of money people pay to have a guitar modded and relic’d to look like they’re real players. And none of those mods or relics have anything to do with how the guitar sounds or plays. I don’t see the big deal in modding a guitar so it actually plays easier and has a straight string pull when you consider the junk people pay extra to have just for aesthetic purposes.

[@cromBumny]

Heritage H150 custom review is needed!

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Buy one.

[@samright4661]

Just a knock off Gibson

[@shaunfreke3614]

Never gone to happen, no direct competitor of Gibson is ever reviewed 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@samright4661]

@@shaunfreke3614 He’s reviewed different companies guitars !

[@HAMMERHEAD-g3h]

​​@@samright4661but plays a lot better. I don't buy guitars to look at, I buy them to play. I could go out and purchase some of the best Gibsons if I wanted. No point in it. Every one I've ever had has had some kind of issue from the factory. Got my first Gibson in the '90s and it had a factory dent in the neck that was finished over as well as a dead G string due to an improperly slotted tunomatic bridge. The last Gibson I bought was a 2018 model and it had a crack in the rosewood fretboard and the Gibson logo on the headstock was not centered when it was applied.

[@StefanReiner-q3u]

I really cannot understand why Gibson is not offering the Gibson Custom Les Paul DC Pro Headstock Shape any longer. Or why Epiphone is not offering that.

[@DareBear2099]

Yo, amateur luthier here out of Maryland. Roller saddles are best used for vibrola or trem systems, you actually lose a lot sustain if you install one on a traditional TOM with a stop bar tail piece. Only benefit without a trem of sorts is the ability to bend the strings a ton.

[@DareBear2099]

@@Michael-fl9ge agree to disagree my friend. I’ve installed them before on LP’s with a trem and they work great for that application.

[@ltgray2780]

That 1st LP looks like it would be fun. But if I bought another guitar, my wife would be VERY unhappy.

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

She might have taste.

[@brians1793]

9:42 Also, it makes sense to use current photos in the state the guitar is currently in, otherwise you could get some surprise dings that weren't in older photos. Same idea as people not using pics from years ago for dating profiles lol, it's just common sense that it's a dishonest thing to do but so many people do it. Of course you need the actual guitar to take pictures of it so it's more to do with preventing people that don't actually have the guitar from using pictures of it in a fake listing as mentioned later.

[@IceColdWaterTRB]

I LITERALLY SAW THIS GUITAR WITH A FRIEND BEFORE THIS VIDEO. Seeing this in a trogly video is hilarious

[@naokim.5035]

Gibson Pat Martino has special headstock that reminds me a PRS or something quite similar to MusicMan

[@danmc_2783]

Hey Austin, the real reason for having the routed area around the potentiometer is so that you can have a nice flat and level section to tighten the nut down on, rather than the curved surface usually found on a carved top. Obviously in this case it's to allow for the push-push pots to be pushed down without interference but on a PRS or ESP etc, it's done to have that level surface for the nut to tighten down on

[@chopperdeath]

Banjo/Classical style tuners are so much more convenient. Way more.

[@edwarddreier2958]

If you look closely you’ll also notice there’s a strap button on the cutaway horn too

[@eddiejr540]

I have a really well cut bone nut and a schaller roller bridge on my LP and the tuning is rock solid🤘

[@danilorg]

I love people who try new things. That was interesting.

[@jackmorrison8269]

I only ever had one, a LP Studio Pro and i was scared to fool around with it too much. Such an amazing guitar

[@downscope3133]

I am no Gibson snob. I play Epiphone, but that headstock seriously makes me nauseous.

[@snap-off5383]

my 93 studio is clapped out with worn frets and bad nitro, was considering similar modifications. . . shopped for a roller nut to go with the roller bridge for eons, never found one that looked like it would work. . . I guess I have a counterpart out there, although I wonder if he wore his out first. . . Mine i bought new in 95 and wore the frets out while polishing the paint off at the contact points. Mine isn't a holy grail thing, although it is a nice 93 with ebony fretboard, going to refurbish it up again and wear it out again so may as well go with my style.

[@geralltwilliams2811]

Well done Bob. A man that buys a guitar to be actually played and not a ornament on a wall

[@sean_miller]

The SS frets are something I'd actually do. I love SS frets. Heel mod is excusable. The pot cutouts and the tuners are absolutely a sin. Roller bridge is just why? lol.

[@seansmith6455]

Congratulations to whoever did this for correcting the string alignment issue and simultaneously creating the most aesthetically repulsive Les Paul I've ever seen in my life! OMG, that thing is like something out of a nightmare! 😮😂

[@SparkyGoldsmith]

Cool, in the most nauseating ways possible. 🤣

[@markjamesmeli2520]

You think that maybe someone could order a Gibson headstock like they featured on the "Corvus" models that Gibson put out, or maybe the Gibson "Marauder" headstock. I guess it's good to know if Gibson saw the error in their typical headstock, they at least tried to fix it a couple of times. Trouble is, the "market" at large for Gibsons didn't support it.

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

I'm surprised that Gibson haven't made more use of the Marauder type, tapered headstock. Especially if they had another go at a less expensive model with a bolt on, maple neck. A couple of times I've had a chance to buy a Marauder. The pickups are a bit different and interesting. The LPJ-ish body shape is nice. For me, it's the large and squiggly scratch plate is is off-putting.

[@fb1767]

Ok Troggly, we're gonna ignore the extra strap button?

[@newgunguy4176]

Objective was achieved.

[@francobuzzetti9424]

i thought you were memeing when you said Steinberger

[@christophervaldez8746]

Saw this on Instagram today.

[@rainshadowband3161]

You ask the guy... so, you want a Les Paul? Yes. With Fender tuning stability? Yes. And the PRS knob system? Yes. Lol if this guy relic'd his guitar he'd win gold XD

[@ericgabriel485]

Trogley you forgot to mention the extra strap button on that first Les Paul…. On the horn side…

[@pjior]

CRAZY, THE TUNE OF THE G STRING HASE TO DO WITH INTUNATION, IF HE DID PUT MULTIPLE BRIDGES IT WILL DO BETTER

[@Viper505repiV1]

Didn't mention the weird second strap button?

[@ibanezleftyclub]

Goes though all that hassle, only to still have the butler give better straight pull Lolol

[@femboy-gardevoir]

Me who put a Floyd Rose in an LP Custom: Pathetic.

[@MoondogBongwater]

Good to be back, Trogly

[@Brett-yq7pj]

It's all fixes I've personally never had a problem with

[@dananthony6258]

I’ve been playing les Paul’s my whole life at 48 I’ve never had this problem.

[@tvviewer4500]

Playing in your bedroom makes you less able to care about it

[@dananthony6258]

@@tvviewer4500 well I used a les paul and made a living playing hundreds of gigs so.

[@tvviewer4500]

@@dananthony6258 that must be why you have so many recordings of yourself playing on your channel.

[@dananthony6258]

@@tvviewer4500 what are you talking about. You don’t even make sense. I said I never had a problem with the g string going out of tune on my les paul. You have some kind of issues , maybe you need to see a therapist.

[@PerfectCircle91]

​@@tvviewer4500People say anything to sound cool bro, and the fact he said he's never had a G string be the scourge of tuning is just plain nonsense and objectively wrong. Even Epi made an attempt to ease the issues inherent in that design and it did help some, But Gibson is too greedy to ever attempt this as it would mean the sales dipping because boomers would stop buying them because " it's not like they were back in my day, and they just don't make em like they used to" 🤦😂😂😂

[@Michael-oy3pz]

Never seen that before….unique I must say 🎸🇦🇺

[@wesleed1120]

Yep I saw this listing the other day

[@khillsy4489]

The string doctor does not fix anything. It just moves the problem.

[@Cobra-ky9bt]

Dude could have saved time and money by just getting a PRS. Unbelievably ridiculous mods.

[@londonalicante]

The headstock is hideous and shows a lack of planning. All he needed to do was drill the hole for the 5th string a bit closer to the nut and he could have had a nice neat 4+2 arrangement (reverse of the 2+4 fender style headstock employed by Musicman, with 1st and 2nd on one side and 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th on the other.) He may have been going for some kind of string-by-string compensation that I haven't thought of but I doubt it.

[@mjbbell]

After all these years the Les Paul should play perfectly it’s just odd to me that they just haven’t ironed out all the kinks

[@No_Lucks_Given]

Hahahahaha I saw this on reverb yesterday and thought you would like it.

[@silvermica]

I know BoB - played in a band with him. How freakin' funny.

[@Gearhart_Music]

This guy is from my neck of the woods. LOL!!

[@marmelaki]

If the S/N says it's a '21, why list it as a '19?

[@concretel10n]

Tried is the key word

[@smoluk1]

YUCK!

[@HANDBALLDIEHARD]

weird and ugly as f . To make a better LP the parts are already out there ! main fix use a locking nut and the Gibson tail piece with fine tuners , the final piece is a roller style Nashville bridge !Like the schaller used on Guilds , But only down side is you can't change tunning on the fly , drop D etc , even with a drop tunning machine head installed ! They made nut locks that were separate from the nut and attached just pass the nut on the head stock, like the Kahlers used , but my fav was that type but made by Kaman in the 80's for their locking floating gizmos !

[@NiceLittleLeprechaun]

Besides the headstock (which i understand why he did and can agree to some extent) - This is actually a really cool an unusual level of modifications. i like this ModPaul.

[@bobsaturday4273]

then you're a goof too

[@NiceLittleLeprechaun]

@@bobsaturday4273 Was a goof before it was cool - my fellow GooferTrooper :)

[@panzerlieb]

@@NiceLittleLeprechaunoh this is so cool! Knowing what these cost, I’d be reluctant to do mods like this. But maybe this guitar was gifted to the owner, so he didn’t have to feel the pain. But nevertheless, this is a cool AF mod.

[@luismudry]

Como estropear tu guitarra hermosa y hacer un frankentein 😂😂😂

[@jerrymorgan1752]

12 Gibson, Les Paul owners out there. One confined joy and satisfaction when they have their nuts lubed. Simple as that.

[@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145]

I love LPs in general and my LP in particular… but in NO WAY does it hold tune as well as guitars with straight string pull… and in no way will a guitar with straight string pull ever hold tune as well as a Floyd Rose. No nut lube will ever overcome the inherrent design disadvantages. I can live with it, but would prefer tuning on my LP to be as stable as on my Floyd Rose equiped Strat.

[@tonyhills2112]

That LP is quite the abomination lol. But I gotta say that guy has some cojones!

[@ywtcc]

I appreciate the mods done to the Les Paul. It's a shame about the headstock - a simple trapezoidal layout would have worked better. Other than that, it's a handsome guitar with some real nice custom touches.

[@DJRY360]

i am more bothered by how dusty it was left for the photo-shoot...

[@panzerlieb]

Yeah I’m not sure why they installed these in the pattern they did. They could have just drilled the new tuner holes in a trapezoid pattern 🤷🏻‍♂️. As the tootsie pop Owl said “the world may never know”

[@rockhead69]

Spectacular fix...after all, Jimmy Page, Peter Green, Gary Moore, and other minor musicians were never able to make music out of an ordinary Les Paul.

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Uh no, it DOES look completely awful. You people need to learn guitar stringing and maintenance, I own several Gibson’s, epiphone, fender and a Martin and I don’t have tuning instability in any of them, learn how to service your own guitars!

[@Wargasm54]

He should’ve just put an explorer headstock on it like the Aldo Nova.

[@patrickclune3600]

I own a bunch of Les Pauls, ‘50’s, ‘60’s and ‘70’s, I’ve played them all out in bands for 55+ years. Only problem was when my Lp custom deluxe black beauty came off the strap and broke the “ G “ tuning head off while playing at a local Holiday Inn.I had a Lp Deluxe for a backup. It took a long time to get over it. I don’t even know if there were strap locks in 1977. We didn’t have a Sweetwater or on-line store then

[@kkjhn41]

I have the Steinberger tuners in a non staggered pattern that came stock on my Les Paul Future Tribute and I have to say they are fantastic to use. Not only do they fine tune and hold tune better, ergonomically they are much easier to use. Reaching straight across to the back of the headstock to turn the tuners feels more natural and puts on less forearm strain than the hand position that traditional tuners forces on you especially when tuning the G, B and high E strings.

[@nieko3038]

I swapped them with normal tuners. Don’t see many people talk about the future tribute.

[@georgeoh-well8116]

Not a very elegant headstock solution, but I can absolutely understand the motivation. Bob the brave 👍

[@randomcompdude]

The roller saddles are a comfort upgrade.

[@grantcindrich]

Yo

[@JustMe-dr2ci]

People who fret about this angle have ignored a lot of great songs played with Fender, Gibson, Ibanez, Danelectro, Airline, Teisco, and tons of less than perfect guitars.

[@musicauthority674]

I also like Fluff and Ridiculous Reverb listings.

[@Dragon_rls]

I'll trade him a meatball sandwich (with cheese), for this one.😁

[@evanlee93]

at that point why not just buy a different guitar with those specs lmao

[@clarkgriffith5705]

Was he left handed? Strap button on the lower horn.

[@erickleefeld4883]

If you’re going to do such drastic surgery on a Les Paul, it would be better to just remove the headstock entirely, and convert the guitar into a headless instrument with tuning at the bridge.

[@bobsaturday4273]

how bout LEAVE THE F-ING THING ALONE AND JUST PLAY IT

[@Rhythmicons]

Quick question: I have an '89 Les Paul Standard with the Chainsaw case. I don't take my guitar anywhere but I play regularly. Should I get an off the shelf case and use that and not put the wear and tear on the latches of the Chainsaw?

[@Spidouz]

I love that Fender got it right, PRS got it right, and yet, Gibson never fix the problem even thought it’s a well known issue… it just shows how much they care!

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

Gibson groupies value tradition. The tradition of ridiculously fragile neck/head stocks and nut binding 😄

[@musicauthority674]

That thumbnail made me laugh. this the reason I like the Gibson snake head type headstock. over the conventional headstocks. That guy must do some serious vabrato. most people don't like the looks of string butler's. but I don't mind them. however they can make it more difficult to adjust the truss rod. But there's a simple cure for Gibson's lack of straight string pull simply use a brass nut.

[@musicauthority674]

This is why I like the rare Gibson snake head headstock the best. it's the best headstock that Gibson ever produced.

[@RandysRides]

I've never wanted a Les Paul after playing them. They just feel like a caveman carved log that can't stay in tune. I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule... but heavy, round necked expensive has never been a want.

[@silvermica]

I know BoB - the owner of this guitar. Although, I did not know about this particular guitar. I remember him playing a modified Rickenbacker from 2018 (BoB is in one of my videos on my channel). Anyway, I had heard BoB began using PRS guitars. After seeing this crazily mod'd Les Paul I have to wonder if he was trying to re-create a PRS (albeit a hideously ugly version).

[@luthravin4774]

Once you see…you can’t unsee it!! Brought to you by the…From the No turning back Division…and..what the story with strap button on the lower cutaway…very odd Les Paul that one

[@ethanhitchcock5431]

A new Mandela Effect !? Yikes !!!...I love the Natural finish Explorer ! Thanks Trogly !

[@MyMotherTheCar]

I wonder if that guy understood that guitar intonation is inherently flawed, and it's literally impossible to be perfectly in tune on every note.

[@thehark6247]

and it drives me crazy

[@rocketpigrecords3719]

Not to mention Washburn implemented the Buzz Feiten tuning system...to crickets. I tried a few, had an Earvana equipped LTD, never exactly set my ear on fire.

[@buckbreaker5185]

>what is true temperament

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

There's a difference between "close enough" and "horrible" when it come to tuning.

[@NeonBeeCat]

​@@thehark6247think of guitar intonation as extra spice

[@TranceMasterJack]

That transparent ebony looks like a panda bear.

[@lilbitofOverdrive]

The old LSR tuners went to crazy prices too I had a set and got $400 for them years ago I havn't seen them for sale in years

[@joelonsdale]

"This Les Paul is *MY* guitar - I'll never change"... Proceeds to change everything about it.

[@badscrew4023]

Then sells it😊

[@AllofJudea]

​@@badscrew4023probably needs money for groceries and fuel. That ought to last him 2 weeks

[@Drew.Parry-Guitars]

Of all the ways to ruin a guitar, this is the best I’ve seen. And by best I mean worst. That guitar is worth about 10 bucks now. It looks so awful.

[@danielktdoranie]

“Bob” is not an intelligent guy

[@jamesfarrell8346]

Regardless what you think of Gibson or thier prices. These old timers, working with their hands, deserve our respect.

[@bobsaturday4273]

100%

[@stagecoachrobbery]

This episode should be called 'How to set $1,750 on fire'.

[@dobiqwolf]

That first Les Paul is a real player's guitar, in this case it is not about reselling it but making the instrument easier to play.

[@timwhite5562]

$1500 to the right buyer, $800-1000 for everyone else. It looks like the high E is just wound to the wrong side. I don't know why he just didn't put push/pulls in. That might be as big of a turn off as the headstock. I had a Lucille model years ago, i just did not like it. It had a really narrow nut/neck, and it felt like i was playing a broomstick.

[@jasonhumphrey1668]

Hi Trog! What's your opinion on over-wrapping the bridge? Aside from the funky tuner placement, it has the strings over the bridge. What's your experience with this? I've seen other stuff about it, but no general consensus. Ask a wizard, I always say.

[@clarkbabin9799]

The moded silver burst kind of looks odd with the fade going right into the marbled look of the top.

[@kokodin5895]

i wonder if you ever look for wierd homemade instruments. not failed diy kits but full fledged home build guitars that don't look like anything else

[@williambarabanitz3858]

He got it half right. I have Steinberger tuners on ALL of my guitars. IMHO, Gibson guitars should have these tuners as stock hardware - the company is owned by Gibson. Great 40:1 ratio.

[@therandom802]

i would’ve offered 550 for the modded LP, just to play it for a couple months and resell it. As for an actual Gibson LP, I will buy one when the base model is at or under 1k new. Their current prices are for fools and fanboys/girls. There are several brands that have better single cut guitars for significantly less money.

[@erichagan5289]

Man, no offense, you come off kinda smarmy about this stuff on the first guitar especially. The roller bridge addition makes more sense than you give it credit for. If you're straightening the angle between the nut and the tuner to reduce nut-bite, sharp edges, all that stuff... you would also want to reduce pinching from a knife-point saddle, or the string bind you may experience when a smooth saddle acquires a rougher finish or bite-marks. The only points of contact are the bridge and the tuner, so the static portions of your design don't interfere with your string tension in unpredictable ways. The dished out knobs are... definitely a choice for a style of playing... for the player who uses knobs as expression rather than settings so your fingers can find them from differing positions with your picking/plucking hand. All these make sense though, seems like you're kinda gleefully making fun of the aesthetics and tradition-bucking nature of these perfectly functional changes that aren't up to your youtuber standards? What is any guitar but a "player's guitar"? Anything else is a wallhanger? I know you're interested and appreciate it in some way, but the tone of derision is kinda off putting? Not trying to attack you or trying to shit on you or anythint, it's just not very Leo Fender of you. The Minecraft KZbinr inflection doesn't help the tone come off any better. Anyway, channel probably isn't for me, and that's fine. Just a bit of honest criticism (that you didn't ask for, so please don't take it personally). All the best.

[@guitargamery777]

i have to be honest , i love when someone , without breaking the guitar obviously, gives his her personal touch. I have a collection around 32 guitars and most of them including Fenders, Gibson, the N4, EvH W, Gretsch and many other models like the Jaguar, I had so many modifications including sanding off to the wood a red shinny 7200eur fender, it even sounds better, it really does, less of those high Freq and a more soft sound with a brutal looks with that reversed neck, yeah i took out the neck of a 1977 American Fender and add my own custom made neck, a good one from fender itself as well with Jumbo frets, the original neck i used to build another guitar, so yes i love to see guitar modifications, to be honest i don't like much the look of this less Paul headstock , if fits the owner taste and playability its great than, i never...i mean never liked shinny guitars i really dont know why, i remember taking the paint of a bb king guitar style(Gibson) when i was 13 and i still have that guitar, even the flamenco guitars and classical, i play a lot those nylon guitars as well, i made small modifications like the frets (and im speaking about Ramirez guitars) and to the bridge height so the tension would be better, sorry my Eng, Portuguese here

[@zombieparrot2606]

Wow, way to narc old boy out to reverb, Trogly ol’ guy.

[@rmcq1999]

Firebird has straight pull... sort of. There's still an angle because the headstock is angled back. On a VII with the Maestro vibrola, the tuning stability is real shit if you haven't been meticulous with the nut. Also a roller bridge helps.

[@phil8528]

I have a Washburn wm200 which doesn’t have straight strings, basically the same headstock as the les Paul, and it never goes out of tune, and I bend the heck out of my strings all the time. This video is the first I’ve even considered it was an issue for others. I think people just make up reasons to complain about stuff not being perfect all the time.

[@kaganozmeric9822]

This is pointless. Installing a String Butler is a simple and effective solution without ruining your headstock. Actually, in the beginning Gibsons might have come out from a factory with simple string-tree like inserts to correct this annoying anomaly

[@2760ade]

Don't understand why he didn't put the tuners in a triangular configuration, as per the PRS that you showed! It would have kept the strings straight? The way he has done it upsets my OCD!!

[@williamtownsend8679]

For anyone saying he ruined the Les Paul, a guitar should serve the player. It should not serve some ideal of what we think a guitar should be. That's exactly how the electric guitar was invented, and, if anything, this guy is continuing that legacy