This Guy Tried to "FIX" the Les Paul

[@Trog]

🔴Check it out for yourself here: tidd.ly/4aKsLYI

[@scotthumphrey99]

Why did he add an extra strap button on the cut away?

[@jacobsmith6773]

theres a strap button on the horn...why?

[@silvermica]

@@scotthumphrey99 I believe it's for a harness that goes around your waist - taking the weight off of the player's shoulder. I know the guy selling the guitar - and I'd seem him with that harness for his guitar.

[@silvermica]

@@jacobsmith6773 - it's for a waist harness

[@jacobsmith6773]

@@silvermica just looked itup looks like it distributes the load evenly. thanks!

[@SHENDOH]

That man knew what he wanted out of his LP. I admire that. A true player. I will never understand collector logic. My guitars are played

[@jacobfelix8577]

Same here. I collect but to play what I have. Even trade for other guitars. Sometimes it’s a regret tho

[@HauntedGuitarMan]

Well maybe not so much, it is for sale.

[@SHENDOH]

@@HauntedGuitarMan not mine. I use them as tools. Why sell your tools

[@RoboSteave]

I'm with you on this. The most important thing to me about a guitar is how it plays, i.e. feels. How it sounds is next but not as important as you can control that with the amp and pedals. Funniest thing about collectors is if a guitar looks beat up. Done at the factory? Worth more. Done by the owner? Worth less. Yeah, that works.

[@StephenG1991]

But it was done in a sloppy and not actually necessary way. Could have just bought a string butler.

[@NiceLittleLeprechaun]

Besides the headstock (which i understand why he did and can agree to some extent) - This is actually a really cool an unusual level of modifications. i like this ModPaul.

[@bobsaturday4273]

then you're a goof too

[@NiceLittleLeprechaun]

@@bobsaturday4273 Was a goof before it was cool - my fellow GooferTrooper :)

[@panzerlieb]

@@NiceLittleLeprechaunoh this is so cool! Knowing what these cost, I’d be reluctant to do mods like this. But maybe this guitar was gifted to the owner, so he didn’t have to feel the pain. But nevertheless, this is a cool AF mod.

[@luismudry]

Como estropear tu guitarra hermosa y hacer un frankentein 😂😂😂

[@psychosneighbor1509]

@bob Who gives a sh*t? It's a 2021. Not like he destroyed a classic...

[@edgardo034]

Is there a strap button on the cut side? WTF

[@jyo9735]

its ambidextrous now

[@mouseanalyse]

Yep, just noticed that too. Maybe lefty player where recessing the pots would make a lot of sense. On the other hand the shaved heel makes less sense for a leftie… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@davidfaustino4476]

​@@mouseanalysethe pots aren't even recessed. They stick out just as far as a stock guitar. This guy just really wanted to destroy his Gibson.

[@ronaldjacobsen3004]

What about the strap button on the horn?

[@russellflagg8519]

same thing I was waiting to hear about.

[@philmazzie3674]

It has a strap button on the horn. What else could there be to find out?

[@dw7704]

Wondering that myself

[@DoubleDguitar]

Bam, it’s a lefty.

[@stop736]

When you consider the amount of money people pay to have a guitar modded and relic’d to look like they’re real players. And none of those mods or relics have anything to do with how the guitar sounds or plays. I don’t see the big deal in modding a guitar so it actually plays easier and has a straight string pull when you consider the junk people pay extra to have just for aesthetic purposes.

[@ywtcc]

I appreciate the mods done to the Les Paul. It's a shame about the headstock - a simple trapezoidal layout would have worked better. Other than that, it's a handsome guitar with some real nice custom touches.

[@DJRY360]

i am more bothered by how dusty it was left for the photo-shoot...

[@panzerlieb]

Yeah I’m not sure why they installed these in the pattern they did. They could have just drilled the new tuner holes in a trapezoid pattern 🤷🏻‍♂️. As the tootsie pop Owl said “the world may never know”

[@kkjhn41]

I have the Steinberger tuners in a non staggered pattern that came stock on my Les Paul Future Tribute and I have to say they are fantastic to use. Not only do they fine tune and hold tune better, ergonomically they are much easier to use. Reaching straight across to the back of the headstock to turn the tuners feels more natural and puts on less forearm strain than the hand position that traditional tuners forces on you especially when tuning the G, B and high E strings.

[@nieko3038]

I swapped them with normal tuners. Don’t see many people talk about the future tribute.

[@patrickclune3600]

I own a bunch of Les Pauls, ‘50’s, ‘60’s and ‘70’s, I’ve played them all out in bands for 55+ years. Only problem was when my Lp custom deluxe black beauty came off the strap and broke the “ G “ tuning head off while playing at a local Holiday Inn.I had a Lp Deluxe for a backup. It took a long time to get over it. I don’t even know if there were strap locks in 1977. We didn’t have a Sweetwater or on-line store then

[@tonyhills2112]

That LP is quite the abomination lol. But I gotta say that guy has some cojones!

[@Wargasm54]

He should’ve just put an explorer headstock on it like the Aldo Nova.

[@georgeoh-well8116]

Not a very elegant headstock solution, but I can absolutely understand the motivation. Bob the brave 👍

[@jerrymorgan1752]

12 Gibson, Les Paul owners out there. One confined joy and satisfaction when they have their nuts lubed. Simple as that.

[@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145]

I love LPs in general and my LP in particular… but in NO WAY does it hold tune as well as guitars with straight string pull… and in no way will a guitar with straight string pull ever hold tune as well as a Floyd Rose. No nut lube will ever overcome the inherrent design disadvantages. I can live with it, but would prefer tuning on my LP to be as stable as on my Floyd Rose equiped Strat.

[@rockhead69]

Spectacular fix...after all, Jimmy Page, Peter Green, Gary Moore, and other minor musicians were never able to make music out of an ordinary Les Paul.

[@cromBumny]

Heritage H150 custom review is needed!

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Buy one.

[@samright4661]

Just a knock off Gibson

[@shaunfreke3614]

Never gone to happen, no direct competitor of Gibson is ever reviewed 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@samright4661]

@@shaunfreke3614 He’s reviewed different companies guitars !

[@HAMMERHEAD-g3h]

​​@@samright4661but plays a lot better. I don't buy guitars to look at, I buy them to play. I could go out and purchase some of the best Gibsons if I wanted. No point in it. Every one I've ever had has had some kind of issue from the factory. Got my first Gibson in the '90s and it had a factory dent in the neck that was finished over as well as a dead G string due to an improperly slotted tunomatic bridge. The last Gibson I bought was a 2018 model and it had a crack in the rosewood fretboard and the Gibson logo on the headstock was not centered when it was applied.

[@randomcompdude]

The roller saddles are a comfort upgrade.

[@Rhythmicons]

Quick question: I have an '89 Les Paul Standard with the Chainsaw case. I don't take my guitar anywhere but I play regularly. Should I get an off the shelf case and use that and not put the wear and tear on the latches of the Chainsaw?

[@JustMe-dr2ci]

People who fret about this angle have ignored a lot of great songs played with Fender, Gibson, Ibanez, Danelectro, Airline, Teisco, and tons of less than perfect guitars.

[@musicauthority674]

This is why I like the rare Gibson snake head headstock the best. it's the best headstock that Gibson ever produced.

[@danilorg]

I love people who try new things. That was interesting.

[@luthravin4774]

Once you see…you can’t unsee it!! Brought to you by the…From the No turning back Division…and..what the story with strap button on the lower cutaway…very odd Les Paul that one

[@ethanhitchcock5431]

A new Mandela Effect !? Yikes !!!...I love the Natural finish Explorer ! Thanks Trogly !

[@TranceMasterJack]

That transparent ebony looks like a panda bear.

[@sc0repio662]

Hey Trog, I've got a couple of Emerald guitars I can tell ya that the tuner-to-nut slot alignment on them are as "straight" as a PRS. Of course, their all CF construction means they're more or less immune to the tuning instabilities that plague their wooden counterparts. I've had to tune my 24-08 & 245 WAAAAAAY more often than I have my Virtuo or X20. Gotta say the countersunk knobs on that do kinda look cool... LOL! On a PRS, it's usually a sign the unit is an S2 or Core.

[@danmc_2783]

Hey Austin, the real reason for having the routed area around the potentiometer is so that you can have a nice flat and level section to tighten the nut down on, rather than the curved surface usually found on a carved top. Obviously in this case it's to allow for the push-push pots to be pushed down without interference but on a PRS or ESP etc, it's done to have that level surface for the nut to tighten down on

[@MoondogBongwater]

Good to be back, Trogly

[@c.f.pedraza4057]

I tried a Schaller roller bridge for shitz n gigs with a stopbar tailpiece, and I gotta say, I loved it. I even threw on the Schaller version of a tp6 tailpiece, and the strings move like butter. Feels like there's a trem with no trem. Was a silly mod, but I ended up loving it. I did the mods to a Les Paul Custom.

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

That's pretty cool. Good work Bob.

[@musicauthority674]

I also like Fluff and Ridiculous Reverb listings.

[@Spidouz]

I love that Fender got it right, PRS got it right, and yet, Gibson never fix the problem even thought it’s a well known issue… it just shows how much they care!

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

Gibson groupies value tradition. The tradition of ridiculously fragile neck/head stocks and nut binding 😄

[@joelonsdale]

"This Les Paul is *MY* guitar - I'll never change"... Proceeds to change everything about it.

[@badscrew4023]

Then sells it😊

[@AllofJudea]

​@@badscrew4023probably needs money for groceries and fuel. That ought to last him 2 weeks

[@IDGAF_PLUS]

String Butler works awesome and actually looks kind of cool.

[@christophervaldez8746]

Saw this on Instagram today.

[@denverrandy7143]

That metallic brown/black burst you used to own was pretty cool!!! Thanks Trogly.👍

[@lilbitofOverdrive]

The old LSR tuners went to crazy prices too I had a set and got $400 for them years ago I havn't seen them for sale in years

[@whammyman93]

This is genius. We all know that filing the nut to match the sharper angles in string travel to the tuners for the g and d strings does not really rectify the tuning instability dilemma. So I give this man an A+ for function. Badass 👍

[@rodshop5897]

I've enjoyed those tuners on my Carvin. They work well for the most part, but really tiny strings are a problem for them. I didn't have to relocate them, just put it in the normal spots.

[@pat5882]

Just remove the top screw from the truss rod cover, slacken the D & G strings. Then use a fender string tree and screw it onto the top of the truss rod cover. Route the D & G strings, then tune.

[@davidfaustino4476]

No. That solves literally nothing.

[@musicauthority674]

That thumbnail made me laugh. this the reason I like the Gibson snake head type headstock. over the conventional headstocks. That guy must do some serious vabrato. most people don't like the looks of string butler's. but I don't mind them. however they can make it more difficult to adjust the truss rod. But there's a simple cure for Gibson's lack of straight string pull simply use a brass nut.

[@jimandskittum]

My Schecter has a headstock similar to a PRS. I wind the bottom three strings from the wrong side so the tuner cranks the right way.

[@IceColdWaterTRB]

I LITERALLY SAW THIS GUITAR WITH A FRIEND BEFORE THIS VIDEO. Seeing this in a trogly video is hilarious

[@BobSperber]

Not in the market - too many guitars to get rid of - but it never fails, once I click on one of your videos, I have to watch the whole thing. You’re great, man.

[@brians1793]

9:42 Also, it makes sense to use current photos in the state the guitar is currently in, otherwise you could get some surprise dings that weren't in older photos. Same idea as people not using pics from years ago for dating profiles lol, it's just common sense that it's a dishonest thing to do but so many people do it. Of course you need the actual guitar to take pictures of it so it's more to do with preventing people that don't actually have the guitar from using pictures of it in a fake listing as mentioned later.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

String pull is the least of your problems with a LP neck. The neck on most models is still made of fairly thin flat sawn wood with no scarf joint or grain change where the neck angles. All it takes is one harder fall and your neck is either breaking at the headstock or the neck joint.

[@eddiejr540]

I have a really well cut bone nut and a schaller roller bridge on my LP and the tuning is rock solid🤘

[@micksterminator3]

My old friend has one of those natural explorers. Was most impressed with how nice the pots felt compared to all my beginner guitars

[@jackmorrison8269]

I only ever had one, a LP Studio Pro and i was scared to fool around with it too much. Such an amazing guitar

[@rmcq1999]

Firebird has straight pull... sort of. There's still an angle because the headstock is angled back. On a VII with the Maestro vibrola, the tuning stability is real shit if you haven't been meticulous with the nut. Also a roller bridge helps.

[@gunstarhero8028]

The man knew what he wanted and he made it happen, more power to him

[@jamesfarrell8346]

Regardless what you think of Gibson or thier prices. These old timers, working with their hands, deserve our respect.

[@bobsaturday4273]

100%

[@guitargamery777]

i have to be honest , i love when someone , without breaking the guitar obviously, gives his her personal touch. I have a collection around 32 guitars and most of them including Fenders, Gibson, the N4, EvH W, Gretsch and many other models like the Jaguar, I had so many modifications including sanding off to the wood a red shinny 7200eur fender, it even sounds better, it really does, less of those high Freq and a more soft sound with a brutal looks with that reversed neck, yeah i took out the neck of a 1977 American Fender and add my own custom made neck, a good one from fender itself as well with Jumbo frets, the original neck i used to build another guitar, so yes i love to see guitar modifications, to be honest i don't like much the look of this less Paul headstock , if fits the owner taste and playability its great than, i never...i mean never liked shinny guitars i really dont know why, i remember taking the paint of a bb king guitar style(Gibson) when i was 13 and i still have that guitar, even the flamenco guitars and classical, i play a lot those nylon guitars as well, i made small modifications like the frets (and im speaking about Ramirez guitars) and to the bridge height so the tension would be better, sorry my Eng, Portuguese here

[@Relayer6a]

This is a classic build a better mouse trap meme.

[@fevverzz]

I really like the extra strap button that it has, my guess is it might be for compatibility with left handed people. Say if you want to pull a Hendrix by using a right handed instrument as a lefty, the strap button is there for you to do that when you make that mod.

[@newgunguy4176]

Objective was achieved.

[@leedouglass9636]

I love the Gibson head stock.

[@danieljwillen1993]

What's the guitar at around the 6:00 mark? :) great video btw!

[@Eric-r6r]

Roller saddles help to not break strings I like them on all my tuneomatic style guitars

[@SparkyGoldsmith]

Cool, in the most nauseating ways possible. 🤣

[@clarkbabin9799]

The moded silver burst kind of looks odd with the fade going right into the marbled look of the top.

[@endrizo]

Gibson must do this. great idea

[@dasherf17]

Definitely a WTF moment...I wouldn't even try that "wizardry"...

[@DareBear2099]

Yo, amateur luthier here out of Maryland. Roller saddles are best used for vibrola or trem systems, you actually lose a lot sustain if you install one on a traditional TOM with a stop bar tail piece. Only benefit without a trem of sorts is the ability to bend the strings a ton.

[@DareBear2099]

@@Michael-fl9ge agree to disagree my friend. I’ve installed them before on LP’s with a trem and they work great for that application.

[@erickleefeld4883]

If you’re going to do such drastic surgery on a Les Paul, it would be better to just remove the headstock entirely, and convert the guitar into a headless instrument with tuning at the bridge.

[@bobsaturday4273]

how bout LEAVE THE F-ING THING ALONE AND JUST PLAY IT

[@bryanp8010]

String butler goes on all my LP’s, its like magic, but i also add rolling bridges on guitars with 52 or less gauage strings. I cant deal with tuning issues as a semi-pro

[@Michael-oy3pz]

Never seen that before….unique I must say 🎸🇦🇺

[@markjamesmeli2520]

You think that maybe someone could order a Gibson headstock like they featured on the "Corvus" models that Gibson put out, or maybe the Gibson "Marauder" headstock. I guess it's good to know if Gibson saw the error in their typical headstock, they at least tried to fix it a couple of times. Trouble is, the "market" at large for Gibsons didn't support it.

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

I'm surprised that Gibson haven't made more use of the Marauder type, tapered headstock. Especially if they had another go at a less expensive model with a bolt on, maple neck. A couple of times I've had a chance to buy a Marauder. The pickups are a bit different and interesting. The LPJ-ish body shape is nice. For me, it's the large and squiggly scratch plate is is off-putting.

[@StefanReiner-q3u]

I really cannot understand why Gibson is not offering the Gibson Custom Les Paul DC Pro Headstock Shape any longer. Or why Epiphone is not offering that.

[@snap-off5383]

my 93 studio is clapped out with worn frets and bad nitro, was considering similar modifications. . . shopped for a roller nut to go with the roller bridge for eons, never found one that looked like it would work. . . I guess I have a counterpart out there, although I wonder if he wore his out first. . . Mine i bought new in 95 and wore the frets out while polishing the paint off at the contact points. Mine isn't a holy grail thing, although it is a nice 93 with ebony fretboard, going to refurbish it up again and wear it out again so may as well go with my style.

[@BasementBerean]

Just seeing "Standard" on the headstock with all those crazy tuners is funny.

[@chopperdeath]

Banjo/Classical style tuners are so much more convenient. Way more.

[@CheeseCircus]

Why are the strings wrapped weird around the stop-tail, like they were put in upside down?

[@jbrobertson2758]

For a moment I thought I was watching Ridiculous Reverb Listings! Takes the cake for Useless Modifications.

[@oldadajbych8123]

I've definitely heard "Bob's gear bizarre" in 0:52

[@ltgray2780]

That 1st LP looks like it would be fun. But if I bought another guitar, my wife would be VERY unhappy.

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

She might have taste.

[@naokim.5035]

Gibson Pat Martino has special headstock that reminds me a PRS or something quite similar to MusicMan

[@damonboelte]

LEFT HANDED STRAP BUTTON!!!!

[@martinheath5947]

Because Steinberger tuning pegs don't stick out on either side of the headstock, could've angled both rows of tuners symmetrically inwards towards the centre line. Would've looked a lot nicer and worked perfectly.

[@Hyperlink1337]

he copied the tuners/layout tosin abasi uses on guitars he's co-designed

[@MrMustache-pg6ey]

I saw this on reverb 😭 crazy stuff

[@HarlanHarvey76]

Hey, he didn't scallop it.... That's a win

[@No_Lucks_Given]

Hahahahaha I saw this on reverb yesterday and thought you would like it.

[@nieko3038]

Well that’s interesting. Funny I inly see people mention this with Gibson while there are more guitars with similar headstock layout. With a proper nut things are not that bad. Everyone their own I’d say.

[@therealxicojorge]

that black p90 les paul pro is so awesome

[@jasonhumphrey1668]

Hi Trog! What's your opinion on over-wrapping the bridge? Aside from the funky tuner placement, it has the strings over the bridge. What's your experience with this? I've seen other stuff about it, but no general consensus. Ask a wizard, I always say.

[@Colin-o9t]

Ruined a beautiful LP, what a waste.

[@phil8528]

I have a Washburn wm200 which doesn’t have straight strings, basically the same headstock as the les Paul, and it never goes out of tune, and I bend the heck out of my strings all the time. This video is the first I’ve even considered it was an issue for others. I think people just make up reasons to complain about stuff not being perfect all the time.

[@MyMotherTheCar]

I wonder if that guy understood that guitar intonation is inherently flawed, and it's literally impossible to be perfectly in tune on every note.

[@thehark6247]

and it drives me crazy

[@rocketpigrecords3719]

Not to mention Washburn implemented the Buzz Feiten tuning system...to crickets. I tried a few, had an Earvana equipped LTD, never exactly set my ear on fire.

[@buckbreaker5185]

>what is true temperament

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

There's a difference between "close enough" and "horrible" when it come to tuning.

[@NeonBeeCat]

​@@thehark6247think of guitar intonation as extra spice

[@dasczwo]

we MISS the parker fly, obviously.

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Uh no, it DOES look completely awful. You people need to learn guitar stringing and maintenance, I own several Gibson’s, epiphone, fender and a Martin and I don’t have tuning instability in any of them, learn how to service your own guitars!

[@sean_miller]

The SS frets are something I'd actually do. I love SS frets. Heel mod is excusable. The pot cutouts and the tuners are absolutely a sin. Roller bridge is just why? lol.

[@edwarddreier2958]

If you look closely you’ll also notice there’s a strap button on the cutaway horn too

[@williambarabanitz3858]

He got it half right. I have Steinberger tuners on ALL of my guitars. IMHO, Gibson guitars should have these tuners as stock hardware - the company is owned by Gibson. Great 40:1 ratio.

[@dananthony6258]

I’ve been playing les Paul’s my whole life at 48 I’ve never had this problem.

[@tvviewer4500]

Playing in your bedroom makes you less able to care about it

[@dananthony6258]

@@tvviewer4500 well I used a les paul and made a living playing hundreds of gigs so.

[@tvviewer4500]

@@dananthony6258 that must be why you have so many recordings of yourself playing on your channel.

[@dananthony6258]

@@tvviewer4500 what are you talking about. You don’t even make sense. I said I never had a problem with the g string going out of tune on my les paul. You have some kind of issues , maybe you need to see a therapist.

[@PerfectCircle91]

​@@tvviewer4500People say anything to sound cool bro, and the fact he said he's never had a G string be the scourge of tuning is just plain nonsense and objectively wrong. Even Epi made an attempt to ease the issues inherent in that design and it did help some, But Gibson is too greedy to ever attempt this as it would mean the sales dipping because boomers would stop buying them because " it's not like they were back in my day, and they just don't make em like they used to" 🤦😂😂😂

[@jaymax3201]

Futura Tribute

[@seansmith6455]

Congratulations to whoever did this for correcting the string alignment issue and simultaneously creating the most aesthetically repulsive Les Paul I've ever seen in my life! OMG, that thing is like something out of a nightmare! 😮😂

[@buzzcrushtrendkill]

I love it 😄. And Ill admit that part of it is knowing how Gibson groupies would be so outraged.

[@shawncozad8565]

My 17 firebird had them. They change strings quick. Not sure I like them or not

[@mattj1341]

My Gibson saddles always broke strings, super sharp. That made it too annoying to use at live shows, so I made the switch to roller saddles and never broke a string again.

[@davidfaustino4476]

You could have just filed the burr out of your saddle.. roller saddles sound different and not in a good way.

[@darrylcole5575]

It’s an explorer traditional. Smaller body as well.

[@grantcindrich]

Yo

[@wesleed1120]

Yep I saw this listing the other day