This Historian Was The WRONG Choice - Jessie Enkamp RESPONSE

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@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion on my video! :)
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 7 ай бұрын
And now Jesse has discovered Metatron!
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 7 ай бұрын
You have a cool channel.
@sadfrostnoises9191
@sadfrostnoises9191 7 ай бұрын
You seemed quite open minded, I quite enjoyed watching you engage with Everything. I'll have to watch some from you here in a bit.
@TheSeeking2know
@TheSeeking2know 7 ай бұрын
Metatron will eventually find this comment and respond. Nice to see you here!
@TheSeeking2know
@TheSeeking2know 7 ай бұрын
@@sadfrostnoises9191He has a lot of cool videos visiting martial arts styles in many countries.
@proy14
@proy14 7 ай бұрын
Jesse Enkamp is a real good youtuber. If you want to see more historical inclined video, he made a real good one on the french influence on karate and another one, extraordinary, on the chineese origin of karate.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 7 ай бұрын
I'll check them out!
@lawrencesounddesign1862
@lawrencesounddesign1862 7 ай бұрын
Yes his trip to China was rather epic!
@tombayley7110
@tombayley7110 7 ай бұрын
Jesse has a “glass half full” approach to most of his videos. He tends not to criticise but instead emphasises the positives. This approach can be refreshing change as a lot of martial arts you tube content is about attacking bad practice in one art to make a presenters art look better in comparison.
@rb98769
@rb98769 7 ай бұрын
Yeah. I mean, his Steven Seagal video is pretty infamous. 😂 But this style is probably how he gets so many opportunities to begin with.
@JeanMichelAbrassart
@JeanMichelAbrassart 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's annoying, but it is his approach.
@greyngreyer5
@greyngreyer5 6 ай бұрын
@@rb98769 You can tell he acted differently when he interacted with Steven lol. Definitely just took the piss.
@caustic69420
@caustic69420 7 ай бұрын
As a jesse enkamp fan,I feared this day.
@JohnDoe-wj7ht
@JohnDoe-wj7ht 7 ай бұрын
I thought something similar, but I trust the Metatron.
@DMSBrian24
@DMSBrian24 7 ай бұрын
I mean Jessie is legit but he's also very friendly and open to people who might not necessarily be experts they claim they are
@jaredgilmore3102
@jaredgilmore3102 7 ай бұрын
​@@DMSBrian24What you mean Steven Segal isn't a one man army?
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc 7 ай бұрын
​@@jaredgilmore3102 rumours say so... But it's definitely bs, right?
@SuperK0L1N
@SuperK0L1N 7 ай бұрын
Jessy y su hermano fueron muy respetuoso con el gran maestro Segal experto en todo. Hacer un video con el fue una jugada muy arriesgada, al final uno lo ve solo para ver las mentiras que va a decir el maestro, japo-mongo-ruso-nativo americano.
@robcubed9557
@robcubed9557 7 ай бұрын
As a subscriber of Metatron and Jesse Enkamp, I never dreamed that I would actually see a video with both of them. May I suggest a collaboration between Metatron and Jesse regarding Japanese martial arts with plenty of spoken Japanese.
@jdsayshello1
@jdsayshello1 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. A collaboration between these two would be so nice to watch.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 7 ай бұрын
That would be AWESOME!
@revariox189
@revariox189 7 ай бұрын
We all want it. Have been waiting for the day they would run into each other for a while. It would be, if done right, one of if not the best episode of both channels. But Id need a 3 hour podcast with them. 10 20 mins is def not enough to do justice to either of these two giants of human beings. I would even pay for such an exchange between them.
@shadowlancer45
@shadowlancer45 7 ай бұрын
Right. Enough talking lemme' summon them. Hope they answer the call #metatronyt #KARATEbyJesse
@beenright5115
@beenright5115 7 ай бұрын
Jesse will appear when you mention Okinawa...
@ginzomelo
@ginzomelo 7 ай бұрын
Metatron is my favourite italian samurai ❤
@shadowlancer45
@shadowlancer45 7 ай бұрын
mama mia!
@michelangelodealberti310
@michelangelodealberti310 7 ай бұрын
He is italian? Doesn't look italian
@HAbarneyWK
@HAbarneyWK 7 ай бұрын
​@@michelangelodealberti310 14:18
@asheralexandersmith
@asheralexandersmith 7 ай бұрын
Samuraitalian
@rb98769
@rb98769 7 ай бұрын
​@@michelangelodealberti310He is Sicilian
@b.s.2610
@b.s.2610 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the situation were one has to fight with a fan, there is a famous historical precedent : during the fourth battle of Kawanakajima, Uesugi Kenshin rushed Takeda Shingen, who had to defend himself with his signaling fan. From the wikipedia page : "Eventually the Uesugi forces reached the Takeda command post, and one of the most famous single combats in Japanese history ensued. Uesugi Kenshin himself burst into the headquarters, attacking Takeda Shingen who, unprepared for such an event, parried with his signalling fan as best as he could, and held Kenshin off long enough for one of his retainers, Hara Osumi-no-Kami, to spear Kenshin's mount and drive him off"
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 7 ай бұрын
keep in mind alot of Kenshin's exploits are romanticized HEAVILY, nearly as much as Oda's.
@86Fallowcp
@86Fallowcp 7 ай бұрын
Those 2 were so incredible as individuals that you'd think they were part of a tale instead
@86Fallowcp
@86Fallowcp 7 ай бұрын
@@sixmillionisimpossible I wonder how romanticized his death is tho, lol
@Pallyrulez
@Pallyrulez 7 ай бұрын
I remember the artistic representation of Takeda Shingen, he uses a slightly different kind of iron fan, it is in the gunbai style, instead of the folding fan style. Which makes more sense as an emergency defense tool. Edit: i hasten to add that the depiction may not be historically accurate and may be stylized, or is subjected to artistic liberty.
@ohauss
@ohauss 7 ай бұрын
​@@86FallowcpHistorical chronicles are regularly not written for journalistic purposes, but to glorify certain characters. And in that, even someone's death may be romanticized. All the more in a culture like the Japanese at the time.
@Parostem
@Parostem 7 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed Jesse's video! I highly recommend his channel, especially his documentary on the origins of karate. As you may have surmised from this video, Karate is his main subject which he knows the most about. He does branch out and make videos where he learns about other martial arts, but those videos (much like this one) can only be as good as the guest he has.
@Ed7501
@Ed7501 7 ай бұрын
That's how I found his channel too. His trip to China with Monkey Steals Peach. That was a great docu series.
@Ultr4l0f
@Ultr4l0f 7 ай бұрын
Do note that Jesse is a competent fighter. His brother is a MMA fighter in Bellator, and Jesse is in the corner! But Jesse is also always extremly polite. No matter who he trains with in his videos he shows a positive view. Like he realy tries to find their point of view. The dude did two days with Steven Segal and was all praise. That shows a deeper level of politness than I could ever manage 😅
@arnolopez7217
@arnolopez7217 7 ай бұрын
The Steven Seagal video surprised me 😂
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki 7 ай бұрын
Only thing that shows is he's prone to accepting bs
@N3onDr1v3
@N3onDr1v3 7 ай бұрын
​@@GothPaoki segal is a legit aikido master, one of the first westerners to teach in japan. Your thoughts on aikido asside. He was a legit guy in aikido.
@KrugerFS
@KrugerFS 7 ай бұрын
Steven Seagal will probably put you down.
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki 7 ай бұрын
@@N3onDr1v3 ofc there's the problem aikido itself is as legit as seagull is an actor...
@TalesofDawnandDusk
@TalesofDawnandDusk 7 ай бұрын
Yes! I finally found something I can one-up Metatron on; I can read Classical Japanese without a dictionary. . . mostly. But in all seriousness this was a surprisingly enjoyable museum tour, though if you really want to train like a samurai (particularly a Heian and Kamakura period samurai) you should look into yabusame, (流鏑馬) which is traditional Japanese horseback archery. Maybe the next video we send our boy is one of people trying yabusame?? Regardless, a fun video from both creators, as always Metatron's commentary is always great.
@briancall5819
@briancall5819 7 ай бұрын
Just looked up yabusame. First time I'm hearing about it. Very interesting
@williamberne
@williamberne 7 ай бұрын
Just wondering, are differences between classical Japanese and Chinese very big? Cause as a Chinese who can't speak Japanese, I read and understand (or I thought) like more than 70% of the classical Japanese text.
@TalesofDawnandDusk
@TalesofDawnandDusk 7 ай бұрын
@@williamberne Well I understand a grant total of 0 Chinese so I can't say with 100% certainty. What I can say in brief though is that Classical Chinese was to Japan what Latin was to most of Europe back in the day; the language of the educated elite. For the Japanese, pretty much all their "official" written works (family histories, law codes, imperial edicts, temple dedications, etc.) were written in essentially Classical Chinese with some leniency for names and other places that it was appropriate, so I'm guessing you'd be able to understand a lot of that. But they wrote their tales and stories in their own language often using kana instead of kanji. So basically, I wouldn't be surprised if you understood something like Prince Shotoku's 17 Article Constitution or maybe even something like the Nihon Shoki, but I'd be very surprised if you could understand something like Taketori Monogatari or Makura no Soshi.
@joshuaclabeaux1470
@joshuaclabeaux1470 7 ай бұрын
My kenjutsu sensei SPECIFICALLY taught me NOT to lean forward and to be careful not to lower my head, so... the opposite of this guy.
@danorris5235
@danorris5235 7 ай бұрын
Was that a mechanical positioning thing or just hammering home not to expose the most critical thing in your body to the opponent?
@mathology5710
@mathology5710 7 ай бұрын
Same with naginata.
@PoorMansHEMA
@PoorMansHEMA 7 ай бұрын
Many different Koryu out there do different things.
@sirseigan
@sirseigan 7 ай бұрын
No you should not "lower" the head like Jessie did the last time (the first time was a bit better). The neck should be in a straight line with the back but the weight of the head/helmet - or rather the whole body - is still used in the chop like Kacem said (in this particular style; Kukishin ryu). More of a poor execution then anything else, creating a unfortunante missunderstanding. Karate, commonly have much more upright stance, hence the comment about the head leaning forward. It might have been better to say that the back leg, the spine and the neck should all be in a straight line, whith the front leg bent; making the body (and head) lean forward - but everyone has perfect hindsight. Many weaponbased styles all over the world (not just japanese) do use this principle as it gives advantage in reach, power and endurance. The same principle can be seen in old style of japanese running (often depicting in manga and looks kind of funny funny) when you use the gravity to your advantage (the running technique almost make you constantly "fall" forward towards the ground but the step forward redirect the fall forward instead - sound wierd and is kind of hard to explain in text) which conserves energy but do not maximize speed (hence not used in modern competative running).
@ZoroasterIII
@ZoroasterIII 7 ай бұрын
@@danorris5235 You'd lose focus as your eyes should be fixated on your opponent and yes, you'd be exposing your most 'critical' body part.
@KostasHolopain
@KostasHolopain 7 ай бұрын
You'll absolutely love Jesse! he's very humble and polite and as he's always trying to learn new things, he doesn't get confrontational. He's trying to get other people's perspectives and really shines when he's with people who know what they're doing! Thanks for reacting to this and don't forget, always re-stomp the groin!
@addictedtochocolate920
@addictedtochocolate920 7 ай бұрын
Jesse is one of those people who is eager to learn new stuff all the time despite how experienced he is himself. I believe he also has a video where he tries to overcome late 14th/early 15th century plate harness with the weapons he is familiar with (mostly Japanese weaponry), if that is of any interest to you. Enjoyable analysis. It is always good to get a second opinion from someone who knows their stuff when it comes to museum showcases or documentaries, just in case.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 7 ай бұрын
Ye I like him, he seems very nice.
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 7 ай бұрын
​@@metatronyt I highly recommend his video where he spars hema guys using kobudo, it is very good.
@theechidna2916
@theechidna2916 7 ай бұрын
​@@metatronyt What's you're opinion on Shinkendo and Toyama Ryu?
@rb98769
@rb98769 7 ай бұрын
​@@metatronytWould be cool to see a collab of some sort between you guys
@TheGigashadow
@TheGigashadow 7 ай бұрын
@@metatronyt I would absolutely love to see you react to his video called "I Fought A KNIGHT With Real Weapons" which may be the video the OP is referring to, It's good but there are some very questionable things in it that I'd like to hear your opinion on!
@marvingieseler4305
@marvingieseler4305 7 ай бұрын
18:13 the belt is an yoroi obi a padded belt which goes UNDER the armor it is to absorb impact and allow a tight but comfortable fit of the Do (the one shown is rather small its edo style many were much longer
@TheGhost-7002
@TheGhost-7002 7 ай бұрын
I’d recommend looking at Let’s Ask Seki Sensei’s videos. He is the 22nd Headmaster of a Kabudo style called Asayama-Iciden-Ryu which dates back to the Sengoku Period. I remember seeing some techniques of him taking the enemy’s sword. But I’m pretty sure they had some context to them. Oh, and also, he did make a video on your HEMA vs Kenjutsu video. Perhaps you can react to some of the criticisms he had for you? (Would be funny to see it the other way around 😂) Also, about the Samurai using a fan to defend himself in a camp. There is the story of Uesugi Kenshin attacking Takeda Shingen at the Fourth Battle of Kawanakajima, and Shingen had to defend himself with his Gunbai Fan. But then again that’s if you believe the story, I personally do cause it’s epic.
@viniciusdias5887
@viniciusdias5887 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see them start interacting more with each other's content, maybe make a live together (possibly remotely) talking about their Historical Martial Arts experience.
@computron808
@computron808 7 ай бұрын
Tekada was the man. Yes it definitely happened
@TheGhost-7002
@TheGhost-7002 7 ай бұрын
@@computron808 Id also give some credit to Kenshin. Considering he had the balls to charge straight into the enemy camp and try and kill his rival, IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLE.
@computron808
@computron808 7 ай бұрын
@@TheGhost-7002 most definitely. Takeda and Kenshin,will always be known as honorable warriors. Just about equally matched on the battlefield. It’s funny how they had such a respect for each other, something that’s a foreign concept in modern times. I guess with good reason,depending on the enemy,especially when we’re talking terrorists like isis.
@TheGhost-7002
@TheGhost-7002 7 ай бұрын
@@computron808 eh, at that point in their wars they probably hated each other, I believe it was after this battle that they began to respect each other, or it may have been after the 5th Battle. What really solidified it though, was after Hojo Ujiyasu embargoed the Takeda by not trading salt with them, Kenshin opened up trade, despite the two still being at “war” (though they werent really fighting, they ere just in a state of war). You wont see commanders doing this stuff nowadays cause if they did they’d immediately get shot. Also, you dont want your men respecting the enemy, cause then they would hesitate, and its a lot harder to convince people to fight an enemy if they respect them. So people will dehumanise the enemy, which has been done for thousands of years, but especially nowadays through propaganda.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 7 ай бұрын
I make a pizza today and Metatron releases a video. Did I summon him???
@dancekeb1308
@dancekeb1308 7 ай бұрын
As long as the pizza didn't have pineapple ... ;)
@voxnewman
@voxnewman 7 ай бұрын
That's racist. Deliciously racist...
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer 7 ай бұрын
Do tell. What kind of 🍕 was it? 😋 ;)
@cipherstormwolf14
@cipherstormwolf14 7 ай бұрын
@@dancekeb1308 Who do you summon when the pizza has that?
@gintuner4371
@gintuner4371 7 ай бұрын
@@dancekeb1308whats wrong with pineapple?
@tlkensei2
@tlkensei2 7 ай бұрын
Such a great video. Looking more into Dr. Kacem Zoughari it appears that rather than actually studying even Ninjutsu he studied Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu under Ishizuka sensei. So a smattering of Koryu sadly obfuscated by decades of Hatsumi's well meaning but largely perfomative gap filling.
@descoutinho-e1y
@descoutinho-e1y 7 ай бұрын
It is extremely rare for any academic to have any practical experience in what they teach. Those who teach Greek Comedy for example are not usually also stand up comedians. Presumably when he does his academic write ups he plays the game of peer review and is more tentative in summarizing scholarship and suggesting areas for farther study. And when he does youtube videos for laypeople he turns more into the peforming arts LARPer that is martial arts in a way unless that upsets people in which case if you want to challenge me to any actual combat to the death I shall yield and bow to your superior mojo
@Droma_9
@Droma_9 7 ай бұрын
The Wakizashi wasn't upside down. What he was showing there was a movement from Niten Ichi-ryu. I don't think there's anything from ninjutsu being shown here, but there are several schools of Japanese sword fighting and he's dipping into several of them.
@dovidtauber7977
@dovidtauber7977 7 ай бұрын
Hello, I hope this comes across as respectful, the majority of martial arts was shown from the bujinkan, but I am interested in your Nito ichi ryu statement? Could I please have a link to see the difference in wakizashi style?
@Sean-tb2zz
@Sean-tb2zz 7 ай бұрын
The wakizashi is not worn with armour, and neither was a belt worn over armour for that matter. Instead the uchigatana was used which was slung down. Niten Ichi-ryū being a rōnin style incorporated suhada kempō - swordsmanship without armour. I do not recall any drawing techniques from that, but I didn’t see much . . .
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
@jamesfrankiewicz5768 7 ай бұрын
I've definitely seen tanto in reverse grip, both with edge forward (better "ice pick" stabbing, i.e. the curvature of the blade follows the arc of the stab) or edge backwards (for a downward raking attack). Historically, there's a fuzzy gray area between what is considered a tanto and what is considered a wakizashi (it's only modern Japanese commerce law that separates them by length), so it isn't necessarily wrong in the video, although Jesse wasn't holding it at an effective angle in that brief moment.
@dovidtauber7977
@dovidtauber7977 7 ай бұрын
@@Sean-tb2zz thank you for the answer, I'm aware that miyomoto created the school in the Edo period , where the Tokugawa shogunate had imposed laws on wear and use of katana, do you have anything that shows the uchi katana being worn blade down? I also can't find a reference to Ronin style school? I can't find any references to suhada kempo, pre 1910? Could I have a reference to it please?
@sirseigan
@sirseigan 7 ай бұрын
​@@dovidtauber7977 Then plz note that "Ninjutsu" and "Bujinkan" are two very different things. 6 of Bujinkan's 9 schools are more traditional Bujutsu schools and only 3 are labeled Ninpo/Ninjutsu schools. Of those 3 only 1 has been widely taught outside of Japan. The word "ninpo" has been swapped for "budo" in the name Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu since around 25 years back or so. What was shown here is most likely from Kukishin Ryu (as it is responsible for much of the armored fighting within the Bujinknan), which is a recognized koryu that exists both inside and outside Bujinkan and has several different rather old and well established branches. As such it is absolutely wrong to label Bujinkan as Ninjutsu even thought Bujinkan includes some Ninjutsu. Just as it would be wrong to claim that Ninjutsu is Bujinkan (there are several different schools of Ninjutsu and Bujutsu schools that include Ninjutsu or Ninjutsu like methods in their curriculum). So yes, much of what was shown here was most likely from Bujinkan (as Kacem Zoughari is a very high ranking practitioner that that have trained since 1987 and are are personal student of Hatsumi Sensei), but not Ninjutsu.
@Bonko78
@Bonko78 7 ай бұрын
I practiced ninjutsu a long time ago for almost 5 years and even though I don't recognize the specific techniques shown here, your assumption that "all of this hiding" seems like ninjutsu is spot on. I practiced many types of martial arts in my life and in my experience, those who have trained for years in one style are often bullish about the benefits of that particular style and unwilling to concede that other styles may have any real merits. When this guy got his museum gig, he should have broadened his practical skills before claiming expertise in this way.
@Wintermute909
@Wintermute909 7 ай бұрын
What's the story about ninjustsu? I don't really know much about them but I always assumed most of it must be modern where they've guessed what techniques and tricks they used. Because wouldn't it be almost impossible to find the secrets of ancient secret espionage and spying techniques? And I don't mean that in a bad way, it sounds really cool. Edit: I totally agree with your point about the museum guy should have expanded his knowledge and not remained hyper-focused and bullish on his personal favourite.
@scaberouswretch3673
@scaberouswretch3673 7 ай бұрын
@@Wintermute909It’s more or less completely made up bullshit. You know, the kind of “martial art” where you can be considered a “master” despite never having had a real fight.
@jasonchui111
@jasonchui111 7 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhh watching naruto and doing funny runs and hand signs does not mean you practice ninjitsu. Is like someone saying had modern warfare combat experience by just playing call of duty lol. But anyways cool story bro!!! XD
@NevisYsbryd
@NevisYsbryd 7 ай бұрын
​@@Wintermute909There is no evidence of any distinctly Shinobi martial arts besides the addiction of subterfuge and guerilla warfare techniques, which are generally oriented around tricks for invading places or fleeing, not for combat or assassination per se. Most of what we know about ninja scrolls are more along the lines of applying Sun Tsu's _Art of War_ than martial arts in the conventional sense.
@Bonko78
@Bonko78 7 ай бұрын
@@Wintermute909 You're right that it's supposed to be secret knowledge and it supposedly was for a long time until they started to practice more openly about a century ago. Nobody really knows if any genuinely ancient techniques really made it all the way through to present day. The Ninjutsu style I practiced was called Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and it included 9 different schools. In my humble opinion, it's similar to karate but with more focus on balance, on finding the vulnerable points and on hiding your intent. It includes a lot of jiu-jitsu-like grips and wrestling moves, twisting joints and throttling. We practiced about 15 different strike techniques with fingers, knuckles and hands. For me, it was a bit annoying that they kept requiring us to graduate to the next level (10th kiu to 9th kiu and so on) and by the time I was graduating for the 1st degree black belt, my heart just wasn't in it anymore. I was young and restless and wanted to move on.
@michelguevara151
@michelguevara151 7 ай бұрын
I understand your frustration at the amount of curators that know very little about their charges. I spent a lot of years going to roslin chapel for research and the curator would spot me and send visitors with serious questions directly to me. I had so many over the years just approach me and start asking about the chapel that I became habituated to filling in my latest conjectures and discoveries. I ended up being given privileged access to parts of the chapel reserved for the lord st clair and family. unfortunately, the curate didn't elect to follow us, or he would have had far more information himself.
@philspidermn
@philspidermn 7 ай бұрын
I watched the original some time ago and found the martial instructions weird at the time. Now you highlight that he did/does ninjitsu, it makes perfect sense. From the little I know, these moves of same arm same side are very characteristic of ninjitsu movements.
@sixmillionisimpossible
@sixmillionisimpossible 7 ай бұрын
Its not real samurai training and dietary conditions until you get beriberi from a lack of thiamine fortitude and then having a chonmage to cover your hair recession.
@radekvavricka5382
@radekvavricka5382 7 ай бұрын
Beriberi in Japanese context is a distinctly modern phenomenon, it came from eating solely white rice in the Meiji period, as opposed to the less tasty but more nutritionally rich brown rice more common the the earlier periods.
@med4nel
@med4nel 7 ай бұрын
White rice used to be something people in high positions (like retainers, samurai etc.) ate. It's Ironic that it's actually less nutritious xD but I guess they also had more of it available.​@@radekvavricka5382
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not like he really did any training, they just fiddled with a few things to keep in mind and there was no constant repetition for hours to build that neuro pathway as if he was training For an upcoming event. The title should have been I spent good afternoon with a samurai historian and this is what he taught me
@JohnDoe-ne1ni
@JohnDoe-ne1ni 7 ай бұрын
The hair line receding is the cruelest joke played by mother nature
@mastathrash5609
@mastathrash5609 7 ай бұрын
​​@JohnDoe-ne1ni especially if you had a really nice hair to begin with it's even more cruel😩
@randomguy-z2l
@randomguy-z2l 7 ай бұрын
im glad you said your skeptical of martial arts and only like what actually works, knowing your history in martial etc its really good to hear a realistic perspective from someone of you bona fides in karate etc.
@DasCollective2.0
@DasCollective2.0 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Metatron, this is one of my favorite videos from you it was very entertaining listening to your reaction on Jessie's video.
@Theaddekalk
@Theaddekalk 7 ай бұрын
jesse have a grat channel. training the okinawa style karate, but he goes around alot to different places and learn stuff. and in his videos he let the instructor tell him and his stuff, even if he doesnt agree with him he lets him with a smile on his face. very good channel!
@Ultr4l0f
@Ultr4l0f 7 ай бұрын
It is so nice to have a 100% positive channel. The internet is fueled by outrage. But Jesse? He just keeps on smiling and being genuinley interested in what he does.
@baronvonboomboom4349
@baronvonboomboom4349 7 ай бұрын
Anyone else getting anxious when they started hitting the armor lol.
@aj.j5833
@aj.j5833 7 ай бұрын
That is why martial arts works all teach you how to judge reach and maintain proper distances to avoid getting hit in first place, while allowing you to be able to get in a strike when there is an opportunity to do so.
@Enochulator
@Enochulator 7 ай бұрын
I’ve always been interested in sam-you-rye too
@shadowman8787
@shadowman8787 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@rhawkas2637
@rhawkas2637 7 ай бұрын
Are you also a fan of swerds? XD
@Enochulator
@Enochulator 7 ай бұрын
@@rhawkas2637 who isn’t?
@CrispyCircuits
@CrispyCircuits 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I particularly like sam-you-rye with sam-you-turkey and sam-you-spicy mustard and sam-you-chees. Admittedly though, due to lactose intolerance in Japan, sam-you-cheese isn't historically accurate.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 7 ай бұрын
@@rhawkas2637 Yeah, the swerd master really nose his staff.
@lucianoalvarezdive3100
@lucianoalvarezdive3100 7 ай бұрын
I love it! Jesse y metatron tendrían que hacer un vídeo juntos en Okinawa, "el lugar donde nació el karate"
@cogline9
@cogline9 7 ай бұрын
Can't say I caught this one but I enjoy Jesse's videos. He seems like a genuinely kind and inquisitive person and is always respectful to the folks he's interviewing or learning from.
@maxgehtdnixan4913
@maxgehtdnixan4913 7 ай бұрын
"Some people spend their lifetime with a lie." - 30 years of ninjutsu.
@legueu
@legueu 7 ай бұрын
💀
@RubensBudgetCreations
@RubensBudgetCreations 7 ай бұрын
Yes and no. As mentioned by Methatron himself ninjutsu is a coverd and secret school of spionage, there are just a few written documents discibing the form. This makes it difficult to separate the schools with a lineage and a MC Dojo.
@maxgehtdnixan4913
@maxgehtdnixan4913 7 ай бұрын
@@RubensBudgetCreations Espionage is NOT a martial art. 😂😂😂
@RubensBudgetCreations
@RubensBudgetCreations 7 ай бұрын
@@maxgehtdnixan4913 that's what they want you to believe.
@callmefleet
@callmefleet 6 ай бұрын
@@maxgehtdnixan4913 you're right but that doesn't change the fact that a martial art can be designed specifically for espionage.
@MrRaposaum
@MrRaposaum 7 ай бұрын
"Ninjutsu" isn't a historical martial art. It is a style created in the late 20th century to emulate what they thought that was taught to ninjas in the feudal Japan. Historical ninjas did not had a dedicated martial arts taught to them. If they were to fight, they'd learn any martial art that was already available to samurai, such as kenjutsu or jujutsu. The whole "hooded-pajama-wearing" ninja is a myth that was imagined by fiction writers and seared into Japanese popular culture. The ninja would appear as being either a farmer or a samurai in their disguise.
@catocall7323
@catocall7323 7 ай бұрын
the popular ninja clothes come from the kabuki theater stage hands who wore black to signal themselves to be invisible to the play. Thus the ninja clothes in pop culture signal the same.
@edgyboy831
@edgyboy831 7 ай бұрын
I have yet to watch the rest of the video, so im going to do that in a moment, but to clarify to you that in Bujinkan ninjutsu, we call it ninjutsu as a colloquial term. In actuality a more proper name for it woulkd be Bujinkan style budo taijutsu, or budo. The bujinkan includes 9 seperate schools and lineages of martial arts which date back to different time periods in japanese history, think of it almost like how modern mma includes multiple styles into 1 art, the same goes for with the bujinkan. 6 of the schools we train are samurai ryuha. These being Gyokko Ryū, Kuki Shinden Ryū, Koto Ryū, Shinden Fudo Ryū, Takagi Yoshin Ryū Jūtai jutsu and Gikan Ryū, and many of these have lists of the lineages and the dates for each Soke, though of course i cant speak accurately for if these can be proven definitively of course. What you might notice is that a few of these styles are old jujutsu styles, Shinden Fduo for example supposedly tracing back to the year 1130 being created by Ganpachiro Temeyoshi. The 3 "Ninja" schools which are Togakure-ryū, Gyokushin-ryū and Kumogakure Ryū dont in all honesty have that much known about them, kumogakure being mostly passed on through word of mouth rather than densho scrolls. So as a clarification, Bujinkan ninjutsu is more of a samurai art than it is a Ninja one. With the most likely theory being that most shinobi no mono would've come from the samurai class anyway, and would've sometimesperformed spycraft as an extention of their regular samurai duties, with some clans such as the Hattori or Iga/Koka clans supposedly specializing in this. Though of course the lineage is not really as traceable as many styles of Koryū, so skeptecism is understandable. Hopefully this clarifies some things for you from the perspective of the art as a whole. Knowing you I should.ve probably typed this after finishing the video because you are usually very thorough with your research, I can't wait to watch your response to this though since I watched the original video when it released. (Edit, So when it comes to striking the chestplate with the palm of the hand, it's not used to injure the opponent because of course you cant with a chestplate on, but rather to create distance and space between you and your opponent and to stop them from advancing, it is used as a setup for throws as armoured fighting is all about the kuzushi which is the taking of your opponents balance, with armour on its much harder to keep yourself from falling when your centre of gravity is taken. Palm strikes into the breastplate are used in techniques mainly from Kukishin Ryū, It is used to attack places where there is armour, because as you know if you punch a chestplate, even with kote on, you are gonna mess up your hands pretty badly. Of course any samurai worth their salt isnt going to let you take their sword easily so that's absolutely fair, but if you are the better fighter you can absolutely create the opportunity to steal a sword, we have many many techniques for muto dori, which are techniques for fighting against an opponent with a weapon when you yourself do not have one, for example if you were disarmed. The lowering the head part I agree with, im assuming this was more to explain the concept of "sinking your weight with the strike" and using the weight of the armour to aid in your cut. Though we wouldnt lower our head usually, the posture is always kept straight and looking towards your opponent, In kukishinden which encompasses most of the nujinkans armoured fighting techniques, we would lift up the front leg and almost stomp and sink down into the attack in the same way other styles do. In terms of discussing it being kenjutsu, I would say yes, as Kukishinden ryu is a samurai school that teaches kenjutsu, the ninjutsu stuff would be called "bikenjutsu" and comes from togakure ryu, in which we use a shinobigatana or a togakure ryu style sword. In modern terms we would call it a "ninjato" but its of course not historically accurate, and no sensei I have spoke to has claimed that a ninjato would be a hollywood style sword with a straight blade and square tsuba, but rather a regular katana handle with a shorter blade, or sometimes with a long wakizashi blade used but I digress. In the case of Kukishinden, the sword is usually a tachi or a long handled uchigatana as it uses "battlefield" swords in its kenjutsu techniques mostly. In our training we absolutely do suffer from the "time freezing" in kata, but this is mainly just to learn the movements in a theoretical attack pattern, we will also usually practice these techniques then at full speed, and will perform henka, which are variations on the technique. So it opens a lot of possibilities on different things that could happen. The bujinkan, at least with all the training I have done so far, greatly emphasizes adaptability and discourages being stagnant as is seen in many styles of Japanese martial arts. Hopefully I have clarified some things for you as a Bujinkan Budo practitioner and given some context to things that weren't explained in the video. Also the video was really amazing btw, I would love to see you react to some more videos, perhaps some more of the videos from "lets ask seki sensei" and his use of HEMA weapons from the perspective of a kobudo master, if you havent already. Perhaps one day you could also have a look at some Bujinkan stuff, and preferably avoid the bullshido aspect that can be seen in some Bujinkan dojos unfortunately, I have seen somebody training techniques with a giant log and was actually perplexed at what I was watching)
@JohnAndJohner
@JohnAndJohner 7 ай бұрын
Video aside, that museum looks incredible.
@mikeyrambo2742
@mikeyrambo2742 7 ай бұрын
Jesse is awesome His channel is all about his martial arts journey and he goes around the world learning the real history of different martial arts and karate.
@eval_is_evil
@eval_is_evil 7 ай бұрын
The french guide ,giving a tour to Jessie, is Kacem Zoughari. I actually met him in a ninpo seminar like almost 20 years ago,if I remember correctly he showed us how to evade sword attacks , how to execute counters and takedowns while being armed with katana, tanto or wakizashi. Why his attacks look very weird is because he's a Bujinkan 'shidoshi' ...that should tell you a lot. Bujinkan swordplay is very poor no matter how they have 6 samurai styles in their curriculum. It's comical how bad it is for sustained combat. Footwork is particularly bad. They have some cool tricks.
@ratoh1710
@ratoh1710 7 ай бұрын
12:16 While trophy today is mostly used in the context of a sports trophy, it also has the meaning of an object used to display your success in hunting or war. This is the definition used in trophy hunting. And under this definition, saying they took the heads as trophies would not be incorrect, as they were used to display and prove their success on the battlefield to their lords.
@spectrealangritch
@spectrealangritch 7 ай бұрын
Loving your videos. Bummed I didn’t find you sooner, but now I can binge everything! As someone who works in corrections, and has a standard of training to do in a system of martial arts… the first thing I tell my trainees is “well I’m supposed to show you this, but it’s actually bullshit, here’s why. Learn this… but expect more of this… until enough training allows ‘this bullshit’ to actually click.” I have about 20 years now of martial arts experience and know that a few days basic training isn’t going to cut it for many scenarios.
@whisped8145
@whisped8145 6 ай бұрын
We have a Samurai Museum!? What!?!?
@Pidalin
@Pidalin 7 ай бұрын
You probably already heard about Czech V.O.X. channel because of some interviews about Kingdom Come they did with developers, one guy from this channel also tried to do the samurai training with our the most known sensei and not only for day, for few weeks I think. Spoiler: he ended in a pond during his fight with his master after few weeks of training 😀
@letsdothis9063
@letsdothis9063 7 ай бұрын
Jesse Enkamp is a wonderful human being. I love his work. Its cool to see Metatron doing a video on The Karate Nerd!
@samcook6368
@samcook6368 7 ай бұрын
I was not expecting this crossover.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 7 ай бұрын
As a warfare historian myself, something that stands out in contemporary accounts of the battlefield soldiers, particularly those in armour, is the complaints about weather, rust, and cost. European soldiers largely worried about storms and mud. Armoured soldiers in hotter climates, especially Crusaders, would speak about the modifications they made (based on their exposure to what the locals or enemies would do) to their own protection systems to prevent overheating from the Sun. Fresh arrivals would be ignorant and would ignore their suggestions for a few days or weeks. Manchu soldiers of the Qing dynasty would have to deal with a range of conditions that proved hard on them, and quite expensive. Banner soldiers would complain about the wild temperatures and weather encountered during a campaign season, and the effects it had on their armour. This, and the cost of maintaining multiple horses for combat and patrolling would usually eat up a significant part of their silver wages. Many of their accounts detail ways that they tried to cut down on wear and tear, more efficient uses of what they had, and stories of when they just decided it wasn't worth the aggravation.
@peterchristiansen9695
@peterchristiansen9695 7 ай бұрын
The ‘tubular belt’ is meant to be worn underneath (!) the armour - under the ‘cuirass’ - as a cushion, so as to relieve the weight by redirecting it onto the hips (!). A regular type of obi could be worn on the outside, if the samurai would wear a ‘daishō-configuration’ (katana & wakizashi); or a tachi & tantō (or wakizashi) could be attached with sageo, in various ways.
@geoffquartermainebastin9302
@geoffquartermainebastin9302 7 ай бұрын
Jesse is the real deal. He learned karate in Okinawa, and has been a national champion. He's a humble person who is seriously interested in all martial arts. His field research in China about the origins of karate is top grade. As a 2nd Dan karateka, I can't speak highly enough about Jesse Sensei.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 7 ай бұрын
I find the head hunting practise among samurai fascinating. I'm currently writing a historical Japan-inspired fantasy novel and head hunting is a plot point in the opening chapter. The protagonist (a mercenary ronin) is bemoaning the fact that he wasn't able to take a head during the battle that had just finished.
@S4ltyTar0
@S4ltyTar0 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget to take inspiration from history such as the Siege of Kawagoe where a relief force of 8,000 and 3,000 soldiers within the castle staged a lightning night raid against the 80,000 man siege force and their tactic was literally don't headhunt or you'll give the enemy time to respond.
@mamoruk4143
@mamoruk4143 7 ай бұрын
So weighing in as another ninjutsu practitioner. First off the use of the term ninjutsu I feel is more a colloquialism than an actual style as the word means more or less "the art of endurance" as the kanji used for nin(or shinobu) is sword over heart and means "patience" or to endure something. Now modern ninjutsu is not necessarily koryu imo(as it is my opinion take it with a grain of salt), and falls more under gendai budo, and an amalgamation of the various schools that have all been gathered into one place. All of the stances and techniques taught are based off of the use of various weapons and then how you would also use the same attack empty handed. The first one that is mostly learned is Ichimonji and its mainly reminiscent of wielding a spear. All in all what is taught it based off of samurai budo, not any specific koryu despite, in the bujinkan association, there being 9 koryu schools claimed most of which overlap with each other teaching strikes, grappling, and weapons. Its basically "medieval MMA." My personal experience with ninjutsu is not necessarily how do the techniques actually work, but rather how do you apply the concept of said techniques. I go out to other gyms and spar with them using these concepts and sometimes blow people minds with the "how did you do that?" reactions, its quite invigorating :) There was one instance where Dr. Kacem showed how he would make a couple strikes before he pulled the sword from his opponent, either hitting the vital neck spot between the armor or a palm strike to the do. If you just take that for what you see then yea doesn't seem very practical, but if you think about it for a second he's not hitting the armor with a full strike like you would a punch, he's more doing with the intention of unbalancing or pushing his opponent and then taking his weapon. That said most Koryu today are a very small sliver of what was taught back during and before the Sengoku Jidai. Samurai learned the spear, bow, horse riding, kenjutsu, tanto-justu, bo-jutsu, empty hand and many other types of ways of combat. As time went on during peace time people went off and specialized in teaching just Bow, or sword, or spear, and all the way up today you have the very splintered specializations. There are some like Katori Shinto Ryu that still incorporate many different weapons into their curriculum, but they are I feel the exception of today not the rule. Most koryu schools practice a single aspect of combat, whether it be karate, kenjutsu, kyudo, iaijutsu, etc. Back to regards of the video and Dr. Kacem. He is indeed a very knowledgeable individual when it comes to samurai history and budo in general. That being said what I know of the man is that his knowledge is very broad and his knowledge on the use of each weapon is not based on specific koryu styles, but the most practical application of said weapons. His explenations in the video were meant to be very broad and conceptual in natureYou mentioned to go and find an instructor from japan to talk about how the samurai fought, but even that will be colored in a very specific bias based on the style that instructor specializes in. Those styles are based off of what was taught to samurai of a specific province. Ryuha techniques are based on a plethora of factors from how large the blade of your sword is, to deciding if its the left or the right foot forward. This is a very long winded way of saying just because you don't necessarily agree with his explanations doesn't mean he's wrong. I'm sure there's a lot more I can say here but I'm not trying to do a whole ass TED talk :p
@descoutinho-e1y
@descoutinho-e1y 7 ай бұрын
Metatron and Jesse occupy different style platforms. Metatron is the debunking fact checker and Jesse more the respectful listener with beginner's mind who makes entertaining youtube videos for the casual hobbyist or someone who came across it by accident. An expert is always going to be disappointed with anything done for a lay general interest audience. All very confusing mind but this is the interweb
@riddickraymond7067
@riddickraymond7067 7 ай бұрын
If you go there and make an in-depth video going over every that would be great and would watch.
@zartic4life
@zartic4life 7 ай бұрын
You don't have to be Knight in order to be an 'expert' in Knighthood. A typical logical fallacy (Appealing to Authority).
@ragegartl
@ragegartl 7 ай бұрын
The Samurai Museum in Berlin is amazing, they have this fun mix of historical pieces and a high-tech war to present them, kinda fits japan really well. They have this 3-d sculptet map of japan, where the clans and rulers are projected on, like in a video game.
@HakusW140
@HakusW140 7 ай бұрын
Always enjoyed Jesse's videos. Instant sub here today. Great reaction and breakdown.
@Shrapnel82
@Shrapnel82 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the palm heel strike, I did learn it in American kenpo. It's a modern style (of course), but does trace its lineage through traditional karate. Vs. armor, it won't do a lot, but a lucky strike to the chin could disorient. The main reason why not to use a closed fist is a closed fist against something hard can easily lead to broken fingers.
@ovidiosakfree7537
@ovidiosakfree7537 7 ай бұрын
I'm not a martial artist myself, but, from the perspective of a street fighter, it makes sense to me that you would use any technique that you have at hand at the moment of a massive battle between armies. Soldiers do that all the time. I have no reason to think it haven't been that way since the dawn of war. I can even say that, most ninja techniques look just like that: tricks that someone used to survive certain situation and a ninja heard about it and incorporated it into its personal fighting style.
@todo9633
@todo9633 7 ай бұрын
19:25 is such a cool moment, analyzing someone's martial arts style from one punch is like something out of a martial arts anime.
@wombatmobile8901
@wombatmobile8901 7 ай бұрын
Just a quick aside that at 14:42 the guide talks about weapons being a necessary evil in Taoism. I believe it's probably Buddhism he's referring to, where some schools preach minimal and defensive use of force. I am basing my view on the fact that Taoism isn't as widespread in Japan as Buddhism and that in several east Asian societies, Buddhism acts as a philosophy by warriors for self-cultivation and growth. In any case, great content as usual 🙂
@chrislaurette6778
@chrislaurette6778 7 ай бұрын
The sensei here, Dr. Zoughari is a high ranking practitioner of Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and a student of Soke Masaaki Hatsumi. The Bujinkan is nine ryuha which I think includes 4 ninjutsu lineages and 6 Samurai lineages. Some of which is claimed to be koryu though there is debate. I think even Antony Cummins (who was kicked out of the Bujinkan for telling the hombu dojo sensei that they need to revise their instruction style and denounces the historicity of the ryuha) accepts that the Kuki lineage teachings seem to be koryu. If anyone wants to dig into the historicity of it I suggest the writings of Sean Askew who has done a lot of historical digging in the subject. This is perhaps the most milquetoast demo I've ever seen Kacem give. I very much enjoy watching him move in other videos. Thanks for sharing and giving your thoughts on this Metatron.
@ryufight7987
@ryufight7987 7 ай бұрын
How is Masaaki Hatsumi doing now are days . 15 years ago, I took part in a seminar he did in the Netherlands. How old is he now he must be somewhere near 93 now ❤. Hope he's still in good health ❤
@gnos1s171
@gnos1s171 7 ай бұрын
No it's not, Ninjas didn't have their own specific martial arts, respectfully, that idea's fucking stupid, They would have done the same kenjutsu, iaijutsu and jujutsu That every single other member of the samurai cast would have done ninjas were just samurai that specialized in spycraft.
@chrislaurette6778
@chrislaurette6778 7 ай бұрын
@@gnos1s171 Hatsumi Soke is quoted having said that ninpo taijustsu IS budo taijutsu. Which I take to mean the ninja that had fighting skills were basically doing what the samurai with fighting skills were doing. (Of course often Samurai were employed as ninja, they were not always exclusive to one another.) except that there are groups like the yamabushi and family clans that developed their own specific styles of combat some of which had foreign influence and those people did ninja work. Of all the martial arts I've trained in Takamatsuden budo emphasizes things that others don't. Those things do pertain to an espionage adjacent way of doing things. Read Sean Askew or Don Roley for a more nuanced history. I recommend looking into what differentiates the ninja traditions from the samurai traditions. I think you will find that it has less to do with fighting and more to do with espionage but more than that they had their own subcultures, which colored many aspects of their lives, from combat to religious practices. Even the samurai were doing various types of taijutsu, why would you think that families doing insular training in Iga and Koka and the hermetic shukenja wouldn't have their own martial henka? Dr. Zoughari himself has a PhD in Japanese martial history. In his book 'the Ninja' he has a hairsplitting 4 page chart on the timeline of martial arts in Japanese history going from the 10th century to Okinawa te. In the same book he says "...Ninpo is a collection of adaptable survival techniques that allow one to face the uncertainties of life and to respond to dangerous situations, through physical and psychological discipline, where one uses unorthodox weapons in unorthodox ways." - Zoughari. Does that sound like people doing things the same way as everybody else?
@rodharris948
@rodharris948 7 ай бұрын
@@gnos1s171 Ninja was a class of occupation within the noble classes of japan, they were made up of multiple clans in different areas of Japan and at various points in time they practiced different types of jujitsu. In Bujinkan they teach Kenjutsu and Kenjutsu include Iaijutsu only when talking about modern kendo do we seperate the terms with Iaijutsu distinction, they also teach Jujitsu. Half of the collection of Jujitsu schools are Samurai who practiced espionage the other half are just regular samurai schools.
@gnos1s171
@gnos1s171 7 ай бұрын
@@rodharris948 no. You're wrong, they were samurai caste members that belonged to SAMURAI. CLANS. BECAUSE THEY. WERE. SAMURAI.
@SaschaCharlieDjuderija
@SaschaCharlieDjuderija 7 ай бұрын
Sadly, Jessie Enkamp haven't visited the Chiba Dojo in Munich in order to experience samurai training / Koryu Bujutsu with samurai armor etc. TBH, this would've been a better video for him in the end.
@kobayashimaruaikiken
@kobayashimaruaikiken 7 ай бұрын
His series in Okinawa is awesome.
@paulplus3830
@paulplus3830 7 ай бұрын
I live in Berlin and didn't even know this existed. Well, I'm going to check it out. Thanks. :)
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 7 ай бұрын
I have done Kendo / Battojutsu and "Bujinkan" Ninjutsu before I went over to shoalin Kempo before I quit... Whenever I hear someone say they are an expert in "ninjutsu" I always raise an eyebrow.. especially when they just say "ninjutsu" without adding which style Because yeah... Most ninjutsu teachers are filled with bs unless they tell you straight up what you learn has nothing to do with actual shinobi back then and it's just a mix of a lot of martial arts
@FalotForonke
@FalotForonke 6 ай бұрын
Just for clarification, Dr. Kacem Zoughari is not the curator at the Samurai Museum in Berlin. He is on good terms with the owner of the collection and enjoys coming for visits, but he doesn't work there. Great video! Always nice to learn something new.
@henriquecardosoferreira8994
@henriquecardosoferreira8994 7 ай бұрын
I am a huge Karate nerd fan. Hope he got it right, lets see...
@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE 7 ай бұрын
20:50 But Metatron, it's fine to be a Martial Arts skeptic, but how would you go about ACTUALLY finding out "what works"? Surely they won't let us experiment on convicts or POWs, right? And one cannot test a true, traditional Martial Art in a sports setting either. like MMA it has rules against neck strikes, kicks below the belt, foot stomps, open hand strikes and on and on... If we do that to ANY traditional Martial Art, - very soon the "Martial" part will fall off on its own, and what's left won't even look like "art". I'm aware there are plenty of fake martial arts and fake MA "masters", and it is very unfortunate that besides outright incredulity "criterion" (that's when a "master" starts telling you how he fought off a tiger and killed him, or that he possesses some "secret" Chi technique which could incapacitate his attacker without him lifting a finger or touching the attacker in any way), - often there's little else to go on. 😒Personally, having watched some of Jesse's videos, - I became unsure that even his own Karate which he was taught is all that effective as self defense.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 7 ай бұрын
Please consider checking out my patreon! Lot's of good stuff there! www.patreon.com/themetatron
@dontbothertoreply9755
@dontbothertoreply9755 7 ай бұрын
30 years is not enough expertise LMFAO, what are you? Human resources?
@Averybritishbear
@Averybritishbear 7 ай бұрын
@@dontbothertoreply9755I believe he mentioned that he had much experience in ninjitsu and not what a samurai would’ve used
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 7 ай бұрын
FYI - jesse is one of a group of martial artists that often work together. Sensei Seth, Hard to hurt, Kevin Lee are some others. Enjoy man, Ill see you in the comments sections. Also FYI - most if not all of the combat techniques (not the stealth stuff) for ninjitsu comes directly from 9 of the ryu of traditional Jujitsu - HOWEVER, the teaching standards vary a lot.. Ive seen good clubs and ive seen absolute mcdojo's and the whole thing is mired by scam artsists going all the way up the chain. Some how.. I find that appropriate.
@claudiaxander
@claudiaxander 7 ай бұрын
You should do a video about the amazing achievements of the Polynesians, who did embrace third gender people, to educate your more bigoted followers.
@MaxSluiman
@MaxSluiman 7 ай бұрын
I basically agree with your argument. However: most koryu styles are from the Edo Period. While there technically were samurai in that period, they were not fighters anymore, but in name. Samurai in that period we're administrators, bean counters. Their swords were ornamental and suited for that purpose. Shortened tsuka's etc. They would hardly ever wear armour. A far cry from the samurai from Sengoku Jidai, who would fight regularly, in armour, with mainly not swords. The absence of work for samurai was the whole reason the schools were started. Musashi did it. So if one really wants to learn how to fight like a samurai, one should study it. The standardised and formalised Kata practising that some koryu styles do may not be suited for that per se. You need to fight a lot. Wear armour. which you do. Do physical exercise . Use the yumi. The Yari. The horse. Ju-jutsu. A fight with also a sword is something else than a sword fight. So, this practical teacher may not be that umsuited.
@EzaJAndara
@EzaJAndara 7 ай бұрын
ahh finally metatron beefs 😅 always love when u arguing with your data and research and style havent seen ur vids for time
@quach8quach907
@quach8quach907 7 ай бұрын
30:57 I learned from Jessie's channel. He's using the word "kumite" in its root form. 組手 = entangled hands (trapping hands) 組 root meaning is to weave. It has the root character 糹silk. 組 = weave. kumite, 組手 = entangled hands (trapping hands) And not the colloquial "kumite" in Bloodsport.
@GerardMenvussa
@GerardMenvussa 7 ай бұрын
13:19 "HAHA! Got your nose!!"
@Qongrat
@Qongrat 7 ай бұрын
The curator is actually a Bujinkan martial arts practitioner. Bujinkan brand was created and started to be marketed as "Ninjutsu" to capitalize on the ninja craze of the period of 50s and 60s and etc. Before, it had been a long standing and very little known traditional jutsu dojo. Dr. Maasaki Hatsumi, having had studied martial do (judo, kendo, etc), became eventually well accomplished and one of the favorite students Takamatsu Toshitsugu. Takamatsu ran a small dojo where he taught and practice various ryū no jutsu - meaning here: various types of skill sets, like kenjutsu, yarijutsu and jiujutsu. Bujinkan calls them "traditions" - 9 in total. Most of what Takamatsu taught were traditional armed/unarmed and armoured/unamoured combat techniques suitable for ashigaru and even samurai. As far as I know, he also taught one ryu pretaining to shinobi/ninjutsu: little to do with specific combat skills but mostly related to philosophy and more practical applications of espionage and deception techniques which you can't really safely [and legally] practice or even teach in a modern dojo setting for the most of them - Togakure-ryū. So "Bujinkan" is basically 11.1% (debatable) legit ninjustu in theory, where the rest are lesser known Japanese traditional martial art ryū techniques in practice that have been dressed up and flavoured as ninjutsu for marketing reasons.
@jachyra9
@jachyra9 7 ай бұрын
I'm guessing your name is Jon Snow.
@Qongrat
@Qongrat 7 ай бұрын
@@jachyra9 Nothing wrong with guessing, as long as you are enjoying, I suppose.
@jachyra9
@jachyra9 7 ай бұрын
@@Qongrat - You suppose. Just like the paragraph you wrote.
@Qongrat
@Qongrat 7 ай бұрын
@@jachyra9 Why are you playing this passive aggressive pathetic innuendo indirect insult game. Grow a pair so you can stomach up to say what you want to say or come up with some logical convincing arguments - a more intelligent option. I will listen to your intelligent logical arguments and if you make good points and would be happy to learn something new. Now, John Snow or whatever you call yourself, I started learning and practicing martial arts in 1985 (judo, aikido, operational krav maga to name a few), which judging by your photo was way before you were even produced in a form of spermatozoon in you fraternal individual's testicles. I have completed university courses in Asian culture studies, Japanese and Classical Chinese languages. I own and read quite a few books by Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi, especially his earliest works, as well as a few other books from Bujinkan practitioners. I have been researching martial arts history and traditions (as a hobby not at a professional level) since 1985 and hold 1st Dan in Bujinkan, which still is my favourite martial art to practice.
@Qongrat
@Qongrat 7 ай бұрын
@@jachyra9 Wow, you really love guessing and guessing wrong especially.
@Cozonac3000
@Cozonac3000 7 ай бұрын
My intuition tells me that Jessie will never answer back and not because he wouldn't want to, but because his channel is, how to put it, not as controversial.
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 7 ай бұрын
Strikes with the palm of your hand are actually very good in not injuring yourself. You can use it to push an opponent back so the follow up upwards punch with the protected metal on the back / outside of your hand can go where it is supposed to go. It's like prepping someone for a better shot. Palm strikes are very effective and you are much less likely to injure yourself as if you would strike with your fist. There are also some very nasty techniques for that, but I don't dare sharing that on a KZbin comment, they might mute me for 12 hours again because of graphic content lol. 20:57 Yeah, that part was a little weird. I hope the Samurai would have already drawn it for the opponent being in punching range, lol. But then, maybe you can find yourself in such a situation, and then it could absolutely work. Seems like some less likely circumstance though. But then I just think he was showing a little bit of what one could do if one would stand in front of each other like that. Doesn't necessarily mean it was common or what have you. Still a good showcasing in my eyes, just not something general and common I think. And: If he learned Ninjitsu or what it's called, the spy thing, then it could absolutely be a likely situation, where the Samurai would not be able to anticipate a peasant walking by to pull a Ninja move in him. But then they were mostly spies and left assassinations to other groups. But maybe these other groups used the same or similar techniques. I don't know. Please no ban! 😱
@TheFiddleGuy
@TheFiddleGuy 7 ай бұрын
Collab with Jesse man, that would be an amazing martial arts/ Japanese history video for sure
@cinderyn991
@cinderyn991 7 ай бұрын
On using the palm of your hand to strike armor I'd add that during my military training I was taught to strike armored opponents (different armor but the same rules should work) with my palm instead of my fist since the palm is more stable and won't just instantly break. It becomes less about inflicting damage and more about shoving, armor will absorb most of the impact. No idea about the historical accuracy but at least it is definitely a thing in modern hand-to-hand.
@rns7426
@rns7426 7 ай бұрын
Jessie Enkamp has a great channel! He truly is a karate nerd and martial arts enthusiast. Very nice guy with interesting and engaging content full of humor. I believe he comes from a martial arts family and his brother is a UFC pro. He did do several videos where he was in Okinawa and detailing Karate history.
@darthpaul490
@darthpaul490 7 ай бұрын
Talking of samurai....where are the shogun reviews 😢
@joaovictorborges1562
@joaovictorborges1562 7 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@SavageEntertainmentYEAH
@SavageEntertainmentYEAH 6 ай бұрын
I second this
@bornmexicanraisedinamerica4912
@bornmexicanraisedinamerica4912 7 ай бұрын
Karate is a Okinawa martial art. It was introduced to Japan as an organized system in late 19th to early 20th century. Jujitsu is a Japanese martial art. Akido was a 20th early century martial art.
@cthulhupr
@cthulhupr 7 ай бұрын
At last, a real Metatron video and not click bait bs. I'll give you a like!
@oznerol6220
@oznerol6220 7 ай бұрын
Gretings from Italy! Great video, I would like to add some depth on why Jesse referred to “kumite” while talking about grappling and close quarter techniques. Kumite is the name given to different forms of sparring in modern karate and, as you probably know, kumi-te means crossed or entangled hands. The origin of the name almost certainly comes from two interrelated sources. When karate people had sparring matches in Okinawa from the later half of the 19th century up more or less to the 1920s they started the fight from a crossing wrists position as they do in many chinese martial arts (these bouts were called kakedameshi). At the same time some sources affirm that Okinawan Sumo (a style that can link both to Shuai Jiao and to mainland Sumo) was referred to as Tegumi in regional dialect. The word Te-gumi is made up of the same exact kanji that we find in Kumite (modern karate sparring) they are just reversed in their order whitch also causes the slight difference in spelling. So to close up while grappling in armor was called yoroi-gumi in Japan in the Ryukyu Kingdom (todays Okinawa) they had the practice of te-gumi or kumite, as said in the video to hint at the linguistical relation between these forms of close quarter fighting and grappling.
@GryphonBrokewing
@GryphonBrokewing 7 ай бұрын
I've always understood the testing of armor to be "shot proofing" in the era, as it covered launched missiles from sling, bow, crossbow and later firearms. When charging the firearm was a multi-step process involving primer, powder, wadding and shot (or ball, since the shot was round), the word "bullet-proof" didn't enter the written lexicon until 1816.
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 7 ай бұрын
Jesse Enkamp is the man.
@KGreen1021
@KGreen1021 7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised a museum in Berlin is allowed to have the manji. It was on a piece of armor around 16:09.
@legueu
@legueu 7 ай бұрын
I would 100% watch a video of Metatron visiting this museum.
@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE 7 ай бұрын
Oh, by the way: That "axe-spear" thing is nothing other than a hardware store axe mounted on the same stick as the spear. How that escaped both Metatron and Encamp is really beyond me...
@lingoistj1956
@lingoistj1956 7 ай бұрын
Question: it seems the prevalence of the collecting heads for rewards and promotions custom was practiced in Japan, Korea, China, maybe even Vietnam during the period that overlaps with that of the Ming Dynasty. You see references to this in Ming Dynasty and Chosun dramas. Could this custom of collecting heads originate from the Ming Court and spread to tributary states?
@RubensBudgetCreations
@RubensBudgetCreations 7 ай бұрын
Jessie has a great channel, mostly karate minded. He is really sincere in his presentation. If he comes to someone whose ideas, technics, historical knowledge, etc,etc, is BS he handels that in a polite manner not showing or telling it to the "professional" it in a condecending manner. Of you wacht more of his vids you'll notice that when something he thinks is BS comes along he will use accurate karate terms to see if the other person knows what he/she is talking about or he will purposely use commen terms like "kumite", as he did in this vid, to call them out for the viewers. I don't know if he does that deliberately or not but it shows when you look at more of his vids.
@habacht2465
@habacht2465 7 ай бұрын
Well it seems we can welcome you soon in Berlin. I guess we have some more japanese things here ongoing, just check the japan ambassy or similar, sometime some cultur events are happening here
@Arc_Nix
@Arc_Nix 7 ай бұрын
22:13 Since Metatron didn't seem to mention it, I guess I will express my doubts here. Isn't cross-stepping like this in combat kind of a ridiculous idea that makes it easy for you to be thrown off-balance when you are in such a position?
@dailyqwikbytes
@dailyqwikbytes 7 ай бұрын
Ave Metatron. Brother you should/could do a review of the entire Shogun 2024 series. Take care Friend.
@JohnSmith-XYZ
@JohnSmith-XYZ 7 ай бұрын
80s mini-series is much better. Watch that instead. Novel is a classic read.
@dailyqwikbytes
@dailyqwikbytes 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-XYZ Read the book right after the finale. I had seen a DVD set of the 80s a few years back but only remember bits and pieces. I do think that both the televised versions improved on the novel, which is kind of rare; usually adapted novels are watered down versions of the source material.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 7 ай бұрын
After watching this video I have to say that he shouldn't have titled it that he trained a certain way for day because he basically just took a tour and then got a very very small tutorial. That's not training. He just got a few examples to keep in mind with no real mind-muscle practice "I Spent an Afternoon with a SAMURAI HISTORIAN and This is What I Learned." How's that 😅
@methodsocratic
@methodsocratic 7 ай бұрын
Yah exactly my take too. It seems like a perfectly fine video, certainly taking into account Metatron’s constructive critique, but why the clickbait title? To me that’s kinda lame. I know plenty of content creator’s employ hyperbole in titles, that’s fine, but imo this goes way beyond effective exaggeration: if I had watched this video on my own I’d have been expecting something far, far different.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 7 ай бұрын
@@methodsocratic true because if you have an interesting video it's going to draw people in regardless. It's definitely more annoying when they end the title with "and this happened" yet nothing comes to exposure as if they think Their audience will either forget what they read on the title before the video finishes or they just aren't paying attention
@methodsocratic
@methodsocratic 7 ай бұрын
@@LatimusChadimus yah I think this is a really good point you make here: if content can’t stand on its own without a misleading title, that’s much more important than a title being accurate or not; & conversely, if a video is interesting & awesome on its own, which this video from Jesse Enkamp seems to be, a) it doesn’t need a misleading title, & b) a misleading title actually *takes away* from content that otherwise would’ve been great.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 7 ай бұрын
@@methodsocratic I don't know the channel but if it was good enough for it to come across our host's desk, so to speak, then it's not like the guy really needs to grow his channel if it's already big enough, he just needs to maintain it. I mean at the obsession of trying to make every last video go viral ends up disappointing a lot of loyal subscribers. What our host does is keep everything consistent when it comes to the quality, maybe doing a couple of interesting thumbnails that make you wonder what's going on but he doesn't have to play that game because he has enough loyal subscribers to boost the algorithm to get his video in front of more eyes so of course we love the Metatron and he will continue to thrive
@methodsocratic
@methodsocratic 7 ай бұрын
@@LatimusChadimus yah, & like, it’s just an opinion, that I think the title is a (relatively minor) problem. I can only speak for myself, but i personally (especially when it comes to anything regarding history or any of the sciences) will unfollow or never-watch-again a creator who uses clickbait style titles. I want to be entertained & also *credibly* informed. The opposite is true as well: if a creator does accurately describe their content, that stands out to me, because so much crap out there is clickbait.
@st0rmrider
@st0rmrider 7 ай бұрын
This will be fun
@teyao
@teyao 7 ай бұрын
What a great museum. In some small, private museums, it is easier for visitors to touch their collections. There is a private museum where I live, and visitors can apply to the museum to touch the collection. It will be easier if the visitor is a student from the Department of Literature, Archeology, or History. Public museums often require working there to actually touch the collections.
@georgetrusty7696
@georgetrusty7696 7 ай бұрын
He trained and live like a samurai for a day so he got drunk and frequented whorehouses and gambling Halls too sounds like one day in Vegas😂🍾💃🏾
@KatapultGaming
@KatapultGaming 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Jesse has some fantastic content. His speciality is the Okinawa style of Karate, but you'll see in his channel that he learned the basics of most martial arts. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike (hard2hurt) are two other channels that are entertaining and informational.
@TheSpiritualCamp
@TheSpiritualCamp 7 ай бұрын
Your first impression was right : Dr. Kacem Zoughari is indeed French. He's very famous in the French martial arts circle. But he's very focused on Ninjutsu indeed. And here I think there is a big conflict of interest : on one hand, he's an historian. But on the other hand, he's a member of Bujinkan Ninjutsu... Which is many great thing but not strongly based on actual history. I think his credibility as a historian suffers from the fact that he's pushing the Bujinkan bandwagon (they claim they have direct connection to Ninja martial arts dating centuries ago, but there is absolutely no solid proof of that... The affiliation beyond Takamatsu sensei is pretty blurry). Also, as you said, many techniques he demonstrated (for example the defense with the Tessen) are not only Ninjutsu, but more accurately modern-day Bunjinkan Ninjutsu... So yeah, very interesting, but a big problem regarding authenticity. And it's the only bad thing I have to say about Jesse Enkamp : sometimes his enthusiasm, humility and open-mindedness prevent him from being skeptic and criticial (and the best example of that is his interview with the absolute shill that is Steven Seagal).
@PeregrinTintenfish
@PeregrinTintenfish 7 ай бұрын
What about his video about BJJ where he refuses to grapple a white belt (a beginner) and takes that as proof that BJJ is useless?
@moominpic
@moominpic 7 ай бұрын
​@@PeregrinTintenfish I don't think that was meant to be taken 100% seriously. I think it was a riposte to the "traditional arts suck and only BJJ works" crowd. He made the whole thing so ridiculously obvious.
@moominpic
@moominpic 7 ай бұрын
I thought the Segal thing worked great, he just allowed Seagull to show what a master of BS he is.
@descoutinho-e1y
@descoutinho-e1y 7 ай бұрын
@@moominpic I think in that video it seemed more of a parody of the more traditional style. My martial art form is the best now I'll prove it. People seem to be criticizing him for his humility and openness to learn but don't get the parody when as people point out he fights for much less than an hour and beats some fellow BJJ white belts and then switches to the style of the bjj fanatic and therefore my system is the only one and everything else fails.
@DJ-gx4lq
@DJ-gx4lq 7 ай бұрын
Metatron, I would like to see your analysis of Aikido and its relation, if any, to samurai training. I see many people make claims about it, but, they seem unfounded to me
@dovidtauber7977
@dovidtauber7977 7 ай бұрын
Good evening, Dr kacem is high ranking within the bujinkan, he has some other martial background, but I'm unsure how high he got within them. Unfortunately the martial aspect in this video is lack luster and is silly. I think Jesse would be better off going to a reputable Koryu as you stated, I would suggest the school I study. Or maybe a lesser know koryu to give them some spotlight.
@RyanSeven1111
@RyanSeven1111 7 ай бұрын
The bujinkan includes the Kukishin Ryu school - a legit Samurai school. Kacem's martial prowess is exemplary; watch him.
@rangered_64
@rangered_64 7 ай бұрын
Jessie has a very open mind when it comes to martial arts, even going as far as training with Steven Segal (which was quite a disaster ngl XD), in this video, I loved the museum part of it, but even after leaving my martial arts discipline, the final half of the video wasn't the best either, but I still love Jessie.
@LeeJCander
@LeeJCander 7 ай бұрын
Arghh love Jesse. I feared this day. He’s a super nice guy and positive teacher and whilst I don’t do Karate (I do Muay Thai and BJJ) he genuinely makes me interested in it.
@ninjato189
@ninjato189 7 ай бұрын
This has become a new bucket list museum
@ReubenAStern
@ReubenAStern 6 ай бұрын
Ninpo is underrated (slightly). It has a lot of techniques that seem impossible. The thing is you'll still think it's impossible while they're doing it to you and it can take so long to process that it gives them time to do whatever they want to you. I know. I've done it!! The palm strike to the chest is probably a distraction, while it won't cause pain it will upset your balance, then comes the hit to the hit to the face, which will stun you. Then he goes for the sword. I agree it would be difficult to pull off in a scrap (in ninpo they tell you to leg it if you get in a scrap!!) but it would be highly effective on an unsuspecting opponent. Like someone starting on you or someone who isn't expecting a fight at all. Also, don't under estimate ninpo, you'll be surprised what moves actually work.
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