THIS HONESTLY SUCKS...😭 Mushoku Tensei 2x16 Reaction

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My reaction to Season 2 Episode 16 of Mushoku Tensei. #MushokuTensei #MushokuTenseiReaction #animereaction
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6:52 Reaction

[@cybersoul2809]

Eris leaving wasn't about just not wanting to turn into a comcubine for the noble. Eris didn't want Eudeus to come. She wanted to train and become strong enough to stand side by side with him as equals, not needing to rely on him like she did before

[@mageius]

As someone who's been listening to the audiobook versions, I hate that they made didn't explain what he thought it ment. As it really does help set things up later.

[@xaoz2362]

@@mageius ? they... Did though...

[@9308323]

​@@xaoz2362 Nowhere near enough. There are _pages_ of Eris POV from before the Teleportation Incident 'til then that explains her decision. And it really makes you understand it, even though you know it's not what will make Rudy happy. While I like the anime, these skips are heartbreaking every single time it happens. This episode also has a few skips. Not a lot, but certainly felt super underwhelming in comparison.

[@xaoz2362]

@@9308323 Go to episode 12 of season 1 cour 2, skip to 7:06 and watch until all the Eris parts is over. And you'll have all the information you need to understand why she left and what she is gonna do.

[@mageius]

@xaoz2362 it's more that in the original, they made it a bit more clear that was what it was when they revealed that information to Rudy. Remember as a viewer and reader we already know, but story wise tge character is being informed of this for the first time.

[@hhjan594]

Well there's a reason why they were so "fast" to arrive. First of all the mail took some time to arrive, by the time Rudeus got Paul's mail, they were already halfway on the way. Second of all, in the previous Nanahoshi episode there's a time skip. Rudeus did the first experiment a couple weeks after he got mail from Paul, then Nanahoshi broke down for at least a week, then it took them another week to get the co pound layered magical circle to work, something like that. I may have misremembered the exact time pass for that episode but there was quite some time passed by after Rudeus got mail from Paul.

[@uihirasawa843]

The LN actually tells us where Eris is - she gets a chapter at the end of volume 9 (after Rudeus and Sylphy doing the deed, and before Rudeus tells Ariel he will marry Sylphy, which was actually in volume 10). People are speculating that we're going to get an OVA of her (a detailed character design sheet was leaked or something of a character that will be important to said OVA, though said character did already show up briefly in the last part of this season) after the season is over, like how we got one of her goblin slaying job after season 1.

[@BlandSpagetti]

This is something I feel like the anime struggles with, thought next episode could prove me wrong, the parts of the story that aren’t in Rudeus’ POV aren’t really great

[@fcgHenden]

We're past "speculating." We're BEGGING for the Sword Sanctum OVA please, Bind!! 😭

[@9308323]

​@@BlandSpagetti Honestly, even the ones in Rudeus' POV falls flat more times than not. Heck, there are things in this episode alone in Rudeus' POV that fell flat because they decided to skip some details. Which gives me serious worries about what will happen at the end of the cour. If they don't do it well, Rudy's gonna appear as a genuine scumbag rather than the victim who made a mistake.

[@UncensoredScion]

so much good comes in this episode, from Ruijerd being the cool dad figure to Rudy and reassuring him to Rudy being the decent elder brother to both Norn and Aisha, the part where he pulls Aisha up for bullying Norn over her grades hits hard because it's how he was treated by his siblings and he doesn't want Norn to face the same thing. This stuff is so damn comfy it's annoying as it's just average family drama in a fantasy world and I love it for that.

[@Tounushi]

Much of the screentime Norn would've had in season 1 was cut. Rudeus and Eris would've had a restaurant dinner with Paul and Norn, and they had a chance to reconnect. Norn was hostile throughout while Eris mellowed out. Father and son got to properly reconnect and Rudeus managed to have a date with Eris to pick out a dress for her (the same she wore on their night together). So instead of spending a week in Millishion and trying to reconcile with Norn, Rudeus and co. just left the next day after Rudeus reconciled with Paul.

[@mageius]

Small spoiler because it's cut content from the light novel about their talk about Eris. He outright tells Rudy that she probably still loves him and that it's most likely that she wanted to get stronger for him, which is what she meant.

[@reignmans]

hah! it takes a meathead to understand a meathead :P

[@FrameFreakStudio]

Badigadi was against Laplace in the war. Ruijerd was the leader of Laplace special forces.

[@Ballard258]

Fore some missing stuff and context from the novels. thers a lot of stuff that happend at east port where Paul met Ruijerd again, hopefully we will see it next episode. Rudeus told all the story of what happend with Eris to Ruijerd, ED and all but Ruijerd's opinion was the same, "this must be a missunderstanding Eris really loved you" he was really sad to see Rudeus wit a diferent woman, and even Sylphie was worried she had made something to offend him, but being an adult Ruijerd understood that this things happend. In the Laplace war Badigady and his kingdom of Biegoya were Neutral, Ruijerd was the comander of Laplace Special forces, so yea... they have some history. Aisha did worked Ruijerd and Ginger to the bone, when she reallized how strong and rescistent Ruijerd was she made him work day and night as caravane guards with little sleep to travel the most eficient way posible, this did angerd Norne "dont work Ruijerd so hard you inconciderate jerk!" "ahh? Ruijerd can do this and more and we all want to arrive as fast as posible, you are the inconciderate one Norne!" Rudeus was very sorry that his bossy little sister was so demanding of him. Rudeus did say a bit more on why he let Norne sleep in the dorms despite not getting good grades "Aisha, If you wanted to go to school and live in the dorms I woud have let you, But if Norne wanted to skip school and help us with the house I woud not allowd it" Rudeus understand that both sisters are diferent and cannot be treated the same way but he wants to treat them Farelly fand dosn't care if Aisha is a half sister, both are his sisters. One thing Im really pussled by, they havnt explain TOKI jet, it shud have been explained by now, toki or "battle Aura" is a MAJOR factor in this world power system, like ki in dragon ball or the equivalent exchange in FMA so i don't really get why no one have explain it jet. thers a lot of stuff about the time Norn and Aisha spend in Millis with Grandma at the Latreya state, they are an important noble familly in Millis and grandma is a really strict and traditional Lady, Stubern and set in her ways and a devote follower of Millis, so you can imagine how horrible of a time they had at her house. their hatred twords Grandma is one of the few things both sisters can agree on.

[@Tounushi]

The scenes with Norn at school sound like they're in mid-April at the earliest, so she started as a 1st year student at the start of a new semester. Oh, right, Rudeus is now a second-year student.

[@BakaBaka8146]

19:50 he basically remembers when he went to the wrong dormitory and got confronted by gorilla girl😂

[@55ziomal55]

5:14 "Who was the person that summoned her". I don't want to spoil it, but it's literally only explained in the VERY LAST chapter of the light novel. Unless you want to be a reader, don't expect your answer very soon.

[@fcgHenden]

That Zanoba comment came out of nowhere. 😂 Had to coffee spit-take. Makes sense though.

[@TrueWarriorJak]

Glad you're one of the few reactors I've seen remember Norn is just a kid and I mean like a genuine little kid unlike Aisha who is extremely gifted for her age. Norn is the only normal kid of the family and the last thing she remembers Rudy doing was hurting her father that shit is trauma inducing for a kid her age she is really afraid of him and is a fairly normal reaction, and that's not even taking into account how she probably feels lesser to Aisha and not doing well in school.

[@truekampang6709]

Eris had her own idea how to get stronger, so she didn't want to get in Rudeus' way to find his remaining family member. She worded it awkwardly in the letter.

[@kristoffer2250]

Man, this episode truly shows the consequences prevalent in this world. Paul's cheating never still have repercussions till this day

[@Annext]

Didn't think u would watch ani news his content is great

[@ElyonDominus]

Watching ani news as an anime only is very brave.

[@paulreales920]

@@ElyonDominushe doesnt spoils anything, and to my knowledge aninews himself doesn’t reads past what has been adapted by the anime

[@floxer]

@@ElyonDominus Why is that? Should I be aware of something? I'll be checking each video before Robin sees it either way.

[@ElyonDominus]

@@floxer I've seen bits around where they'll add details only for them to have moved the introduction. But another big reason is just putting that sort of MT content into the algorithm makes it likelier to see spoilers from say LN reviews or YT shorts about MT. I don't think the channel spoils anything major in particular, just the combination makes it a brave decision.

[@floxer]

@@ElyonDominus I'm aware of both these problems. I think these videos have some merit and that he should see them, so I'll be doing everything I can on my part to minimize the risks. Sadly for the first, you can never be sure with that. I've read the LN and manga and like I said I'll be checking the videos first, so I could tell Robin on a per-video basis to maybe skip a specific part. And for the second problem, I've already recommended him to always watch these videos in incognito mode.

[@scarletnach2952]

Norn living in the dorms wasn't a good idea because she sucks at communicating with other people. Aisha was already smart and able to handle herself to not go to school. In this world, not every person don’t have to go to school.

[@uihirasawa843]

11:40 It's actually mentioned that Badigadi was part of a neutral party to Laplace during his war against humanity, while Ruijerd was originally on Laplace's side, so while they weren't directly opposed to each other, they didn't fully agree. It's also mentioned that after the defeat of Laplace, the human side signed a treaty with a demon king who wasn't allied with Laplace and led the moderate faction, and that was probably Badigadi, even though it doesn't mention it.

[@Shigeru0508]

naw, the after credits only happen when you DON´T expect them xD

[@juusovuolle8251]

Aisha is very very very. VERY excited to see her big brother. She is the biggest bro-con I know.

[@reignmans]

The characters and the dialogue in this show is so well writen. I feel extremely bad for poor Norn... She feels absolutely alone in a far far away place away from her dad... with a brother she is terrified and lowkey hates since their first actual meeting he was beating the breaks off their dad... She has no knowledge of the whereabouts of her mother, not even if she is alive... She is an average kid having a sister thats probably a genius talking her down every chance she gets. Asked to go to live in the school dorms and she seems like she can't make any connections and she altho she is surrounded by so many kids she is just... alone. I get the feeling the concubine part that made Aisha cry is something Norn said out of spite. Ruijerd is already gone :( hope we gonna meet him again before the season ends.

[@vzgamer5738]

Ruijerd participated, even though only slightly in the elimination of Laplace, which was the comander of all Demon Race in the Laplace War. Badigadi was a General in that war and answered directly to Laplace so this just normal war grudge. I dont remember them having any direct confrontation though

[@Lipe326]

Yeahh... Well not in this particular war

[@Tounushi]

No. Badigadi was a general in the Second Great Human-Demon War. He opposed Laplace during the unification conflict on the Demon Continent and rose to prominence only after Laplace was -dead- sealed and some of his generals were defeated. Badigadi negotiated the peace treaty that still holds. Ruijerd was directly under Laplace's command as the leader of his top shock troopers.

[@vzgamer5738]

@@Tounushi when was the second human demon war again? i remember that one of them was 400 years ago and the other some 1800 years ago or so... I remember Badi was a general way back when (whenever he killed you know who by accident using the you know what he found in the mountains) was that the second human demon war?

[@Tounushi]

@@vzgamer5738 5000-4200 years before present. The chronology's in the second volume, when Rudeus finds a history book about the world in the Boreas library. 1GHDW was 7000-5800 years before present, IIRC. Laplace war was 500-423 years before present, its end marking year 1 of the current calendar of the setting.

[@vzgamer5738]

@@Tounushi i didnt even know it had the chronology in the books. And im also forgetting misusing "present" to when Rudeus is born so i have to remember to add his age. I remember the Laplace War the most easy cause of the Godslayers. The others i simply dont recall much reference. i need to refresh my knowledge

[@Puklyz]

In last episode, 3 month and a half passed from start to finish

[@uihirasawa843]

5:35 the guy is Perugius, one of the heroes that fought to kill Laplace, and Almanfi is one of his 12 familiars. In the LN, back when Rudeus first meets Ruijerd, he tells him that some guy named Almanfi showed up before the teleportation incident, and Ruijerd basically says something to the effect of "it must have been quite a big deal if even Perugius got involved." The anime also left out from Ruijerd's story in the same episode that after the cursed spears Laplace gave them were broken, Ruijerd went to get revenge and helped Dragon God Urupen, North God Kalman I, and Armored Dragon King Perugius to defeat Laplace. btw, the world of Mushoku Tensei is called the Six-Sided World. Describing the history of that would basically take a wholeass video, and AniNews actually did do one on it

[@hhjan594]

Didn't the author basically wrote a whole prequel to explain the history of the 6-sided world? And frankly enough the main character of that prequel is Laplace himself.

[@vzgamer5738]

The complexity of the summoned object dictates the amount of matter transported in this world. in the books the water bottle they sumuned last episode caused an object to fly to the other side of the room... (if i remember right) it was only a short distance and a small object because the water bottle is basically composed by only plastic, and its an inanimate object with little molecular complexity. Nanahoshi "landed" at the epicenter of the explosion, and the size of the explosion which was equivalent to her complexity as a live human being.

[@aeirie-ii1993]

Spoiler She not just complex matter but she technically summoned to the past too, so otherworld summoning + time travel.

[@hhjan594]

Yeah Eris coming back will indeed be a huge plot point Rudeus have to resolve. No spoilers here but she indeed will come back some day as she said in the end of S1.

[@Savldj]

Its a big difference in the anime from the light novel in the sense that the LN does give us semi regular updates on eris, whereas the anime has kind of omitted that completely. I expect there will be an OVA at some point to cover all of this because its definitely important content

[@ElyonDominus]

The LN is great because it gives POV chapters for more than just Rudeus in ways beyond what the anime seems capable of.

[@cybersoul2809]

We're 100% getting an Eris OVA

[@Savldj]

@@cybersoul2809just a Bit worried it will feel rushed if they cram all of her updates in one episode

[@boi1127]

just expect the anime to be abridge version of the LN

[@cybersoul2809]

@@Savldj it's probably going to be just her arriving at the Sword Sanctum, Nina's POV and then the Auber stuff, anything after that is probably season 3 stuff

[@vd8191]

You are on point about on norn

[@BakaBaka8146]

27:10 great observation , pretty spot on its almost you read the ln. I don't think many anime reactor can predict this accurate. Your observations is kinda scary.

[@SylverQrow]

I missed the after credits too, its ok lol

[@vzgamer5738]

You could really consider recording your reaction to those "cut contents" you've been seeing. I would definitely watch a reaction to that

[@Gopalbatra08]

wholesome show??, wait for next season 😂😂😂😂😂, ln readers know that real show will start next season, up until now show was like intro

[@LeoCarmi]

19:46 lol the Zanoba joke again. Anyways, chill episode however a lot of things happened to keep in mind, the wait for the next one is going to kill me.

[@are3287]

Oh my god the panty intervention it's never been so over

[@addidaswguy]

Yeah sucks we went from super wholesome AND Ruijerd... to this... Man I hope Angsty teen stuff goes by quickly, nothing I hate worse than bratty spoiled teenager trope.

[@SylverQrow]

Half sisters are still legitimate kids 😤

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

Bro botta get jumped by the Aisha enjoyers

[@oppaidragon5938]

Spoiler alert : I still couldn't fathom the ruijerd and norn ship

[@Gopalbatra08]

yeahh me too, nothing in show bothered me, accept for that idk why but it made me uncomfortable, i never felt like that😅😅

[@sj_trill]

Spoiler too I heard they get married or smt

[@oppaidragon5938]

@@sj_trill yes chief

[@kuntkunt-iy2rz]

Crazy how good the first season was, and how bad this season is. P1 of S2 was decent at least, but P2 so far has been trash.

[@are3287]

I kinda like P2 better so far. The impotence arc was pretty impotent for me, but this looks like its going to be good.

[@stando5652]

its crazy that i like season 2 more, nice character development, many scene that give the side character their own character, i feel the future season will have way less impact without this season, but its a shame the animation of season 2 is significantly worse than season 1 in term of consistentcy so far