"This is an awful contract": Sid’s thoughts on Auston Matthews’ four-year extension

Sid and Tammie discuss Toronto Maple Leafs’ player Auston Matthews signing a contract for a four-year extension.
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[@harmagician1]

If you pay one player too much, the team doesn't have enough cap space to get talented players who can help you win it all.

[@MyWordsReignSupreme]

Only 1 team wins the cup a year … most teams that follow your “team friendly” formula STILL don’t even sniff the cup / I’m not saying that the contract he signed is ideal for anyone but himself - but your logic isn’t 100% realized for ultimate success

[@Katie-hb8iq]

@@MyWordsReignSupreme While your point is 100% valid, it is still true that whoever does win the cup absolutely had a good cap situation recently. None of them had bad cap salaries on the entire roster. None of them. Which means having bad contracts on the roster is definitely a detriment to winning a cup. I think the Sabres and Devils are in the best positions to win many cups in the next 8 years because their cap situations are so favourable. They might not win - there's never a guarantee, which is why i agree, but you also have to admit their odds of winning over the next 7-8 years are extremely high. It's much easier to win when all of your stars sign for 7-9 million instead of 12+. Even Dahlin's contract at 11, which is the only outlier, is kind of a steal long-term considering he's a monster of a defensemen. Other than Cale Makar, who would rather have for the next 8 years? I can't think of anyone that wouldn't bottom out at the tail-end of their deal.

[@MyWordsReignSupreme]

@@Katie-hb8iq the lightning had an $18million cap circumvention when they won

[@mikekessler2449]

This is the reason this guy is a weather man now.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

The guy at the end? Who's that? (I'm not from Toronto)

[@dsmith1723]

the guy talkin @@okyouknowwhatever

[@user-zt6ih5pp6d]

Austin is getting payed no matter who he plays for

[@isidro9911]

Same reason the Leafs haven't won since 67.

[@curlyb]

@@isidro9911 Stop talking.

[@split_the_bill]

Matthews did not want to sign for 8 years. Now what do you do if you are the leafs? Not resign him at all? because these are your two options: 4 years, or 0 years. This is a frankly embarrassing and unnecessarily negative take. What a grouch.

[@FerociousLionsOrg]

Someone give Sid a donut

[@robm9999]

No need to. He already had eaten half a dozen that morning by then!

[@BlackMasakari]

Stand back ! it will be up to me !

[@thisiskris017]

He is a donut

[@trevorwilkinson7744]

Another dummy who does not get it! LOL! Keep on losing in the playoffs! LOL!

[@elyssia-paris3064]

13 mil for a 40 goal, 85 point player...damn...I guess overrating and overpaying players in Toronto has been a thing for a long time, why stop now...there is a reason why the Leafs haven't won the cup in a very long time and there are reasons why it won't change. Oh but he he's a 60 goal scorer...he scored 60 once in 7 years. Go compare Matthews first 7 years to Alex Ovechkin, or Connor McDavid or Sidney Crosby and then come back here try to convince me that Matthews is worth 13 mil per season.

[@reignofrock]

Toronto's players taking every cent the Leafs can give helps us out West. Keep signing these!

[@erniejohnson677]

Dummy every player is supposed to make the most amount of money possible. Even if he took a 2 mil hometown discount, what 2 million player is saving you. Oblivious fans like you don’t understand the point of a salary cap, you want players to sign for 10 years and $10

[@henrychenier3693]

Sid, you know this contract is bs! You dont sign someone just to keep them in the flow! They need to be dead serious about bringing a team with the chance to have Lord Stanley back in the house! Nothing else matters and you know it! One player does not make a team!

[@jaysparks9774]

He could sign for 20 years and the Leafs are still not winning the cup :')

[@s.m.4460]

Sid is 100% right. Doobass was a fanboy and maybe he's right, perhaps it's Shanahan. Treliving came in to play hard ball but if he's under Shanahan's thumb, his hands are tied. Another larger chunk taken out of the salary cap for a one sided player. Good job Leafs, stupid as ever👍

[@vintagejoehill]

So explain why 5 more years (4 of which are this contract) at that price is a bad thing? Cuz another 2-3 seasons of 50 goals or more is worth that price. To complain about term is really, REALLY stupid, especially considering he's only 1 of 2 players that are still with their original drafting team from that year.

[@pomerlain8924]

@@vintagejoehill When trying to build a cup contender, that contract for that short of term for that high a cap hit hamstrings them, considerably. We've already seen it with the current deals. And what are they left doing. Trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel trying to sign old vets for the minimum or seeing what rentals they can get at the deadline. And thus, they can't get a legit top-tier blueliner or a solid goaltender. Sid is right. Instead of wanting to build a team that wins a cup, the Leafs are more concerned about keeping Auston Matthews and having good regular seasons. It's going to be the same with Marner and probably with Nylander. So once again, 3 forwards will eat up a majority of the teams' cap. But hey, at least they're exciting. That's what matters, right?

[@s.m.4460]

@@pomerlain8924 Yup! Nostrils is protected by the brass and media.(when they lose its Marner's fault or Nylanders) The guy actually did show up in the first round but of course disappeared in the second-round as he was terrified of getting hit. The figleaf media made excuses for him last year by saying that his dip in goal production was due to him learning to be a two way player.🤔 Bull! If he's such a prowess of being a defensive player why is he not on the PK? Nostrils kryptonite is rough play. . Gudas scared the crap out of him last year.

[@vintagejoehill]

@@pomerlain8924 He's a top 3 player in the league. Whether it was 8 or 4 years it was gonna be high. In NO WAY does signing a 50+ goal scorer hamstring this team. lol. You can say it's a bad thing all you want, you would be lying if you think that not signing this player as a positive. Sid is 100% wrong. In every area he complains about, he turns out to be wrong. The numbers don't lie. The record setting seasons don't lie. Goalies are voodoo. Defense has a 2-3 year window at best yet older defense has been in the top 5 in the last 2 years for the Leafs.

[@curlyb]

@@vintagejoehill Don't bother with these braindead retards man. There's no winning because they'll always route back to their days of playing hockey in...... oh wait, I mean wearing rubber boots while their stepdad rifled tennis balls at their heads. That's their experience with hockey hahahahaha.

[@brendan3966]

Has anyone else been the highest payed player on less than 8 years? He's getting 16.7 this year too. He got the short deal + the max front-loading. Good deal for Austin but he's probably not going to have the Cup window Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin got at the end of their big deals when the salaries started to be more reasonable.

[@erniejohnson677]

Dummy if he took a dummy discount and signed for 10 mil instead, what 3 mill player is coming to save the team and guarantee a Stanley cup. Players who don’t take the max money always regret it when their careers are done and they have family and business aspirations for the next 30 years. All for what, a 1% better chance to win the cup. Dummy fans think players are selfish when they take max money, ppl with a half a brain realize the selfish decision would be to take less money for your family just for one year of little added potential

[@danielremm4278]

I also think signing him for 8 years would have cost the leafs 15M AAV.

[@Tansle620]

and if he plays out of his mind for the next 4 years. Leafs wont be able to afford him. At least with 8 years his cap hit will decrease by probably 5%

[@danielremm4278]

@@Tansle620 and if hr doesn't, they are stuck with this contract. It can play both ways. It's a risk for both parties. He still hasn't been performing consistently enough in the playoffs.

[@billbuffalo6755]

​@@Tansle620why won't they be able to afford him? Other teams will be able to ? John T is coming off the books in 2 seasons. They'll easily be able to afford him if they want to

[@Tansle620]

@@billbuffalo6755 JT is coming off the books, who knows if he resigns or not. Either way you need to sign Nylander, Bertuzzi, Domi, Marner, Klingberg, Brodie, Knies pretty much everyone except Rielly. Obviousky you're not resigning everyone but you need the money to replace those guys and they are costly to begin with. So if he plays like a top 3 player in the league he is asking for north of 15million a year. Goodluck operating that with a 12-13mill Marner and 10-11mill Nylander as well. The teams depth will be atrocious unless they randomly find gems at less than 3 mill a season. Which again Goodluck. A lot of players will be asking for more than market value bc they have been paying roughly 15-20% of their salary to the owner the last 3 years and finally the cap will move. Not saying its impossible they will just remain in cap hell

[@billbuffalo6755]

@@Tansle620 klingberg ? Lol what? They need to sign Klingberg ? They don't have to sign any of those guys if they don't want to. Chances are at least a fee of them don't resign in T.O. my point being, the Leafs will easily be able to afford him if they want to. Oh and as for Johnny T, he won't be signing for anything close to his 11 mil cap hit if he does resign.

[@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty]

This argument only makes sense if Matthews keeps up his level of production. Any drop off whatsoever or serious injury and he’s jeopardized himself going forward. By the time he gets to 31 it’s not out of the realm of possibility he loses money by taking the short term deal. He’s betting on himself, he can live with the results. I personally prefer certainty over chance.

[@idiotidiot5821]

It's also going to be partly sunny on Monday -Sid

[@84coleR]

I'd rather not have Matthews signed for 8 years lol. If he slows down in his 30s and is not producing like he does you are paying him 13 mil. Look at the JT contract lol so you think he is worth 11 mil right now? The answer is hell no. The contract is fine some people are just a little slow

[@blehmeking8440]

That’s the problem. He will be demanding 8 years on his next contract to ensure $ security while his play naturally declines, but during negotiations he will still be in his prime years. If he signs 8 years now, he will be 34 during next negotiation and won’t be able to secure as high of an AAV or term.

[@biffstrong1079]

Crazy contract, especially when you only get 4 years. 100$ million from Toronto. Of course he's happy with this. People are happy to pay him anything just to have him. They will have 50 million invested in the 5 player core. Nylander will ask for 11 and deserve it because of the salary structure they built.

[@curlyb]

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude but.... Which position do you have in the organization? I'm guessing you knocked Shanahan out of the presidents job? If so, congrats Biff!

[@alexevanoski4588]

Good for Sid. I’m a American and this is awesome. It needed to be said.

[@Conquerer.D.K]

He nailed it

[@chosuriki]

Thank goodness! Sid telling it like it is, not like the hockey "insider" echo chamber saying it's a good contract for the leafs.

[@eruenethiistar4976]

It’s a 2 mil raise, 2 mil ain’t gonna make or break the leafs. It’s a perfectly good contract

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@eruenethiistar4976 Matthews is not a player you win with, at least not if he's forced to carry you in the playoffs. Perhaps he could win a Cup if he's second fiddle somewhere. But this guy, even during his Hart season, didn't even drive his own line. Imagine winning a Hart Trophy as a C and your own winger drives your line, that's bonkers. Mitch Marner was ice cold at the start of the 21-22 season and Matthews could barely bag a single puck, then Marner got his legs going and heated up like crazy and guess who started to score goals.............

[@eruenethiistar4976]

@@okyouknowwhatever goes the other way too. If Austin ain’t there Mather don’t have anybody to feed, his point total ain’t nearly as impressive without his assists. Willy and Jt can’t finish like Austin does.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@eruenethiistar4976 Marner played with Tavares the season Tavares scored 47 goals, a season where Marner led the club with 94 points which earned him his current contract. Tavares next best season goal scoring wise is 38 goals on LI, so yeah driving play and making plays matter. How many goals Matthews scores next season depends on who he plays with. If he plays with Marner, then yes he can approach 60 goals again. If he plays with Nylander that won't happen because Nylander is more of a 50/50 shooter. You're right that no other player can whip the puck like Matthews, but both Marner and Nylander are stronger play drivers and playmakers.

[@Jay-uu6ob]

Sid is 100% correct here

[@williamsherratt1705]

If Sid negotiated this deal we would have lost Matthew's for sure ... 😂

[@CoolsBreeze]

Sid is an idiot, and the more he speaks more people see the kind of stupid ignorant piece of garbage he is. He's like that family member that thinks everything is easy just by looking at it.

[@slowmo0925]

I wish.

[@BurtTurbo]

Why do you spell Matthews with an apostrophe? Do you know what those are for?

[@RG-lr4pk]

You will 😂 when the Leafs continue to embarrass themselves every year? Of course you will because you're a loser.

[@100ballster]

​@@BurtTurboSafe to assume it was the autocorrect on his phone, dumb dumb

[@waynejones5635]

Sid, you nailed it. This deal has absolutely nothing to do with winning. The fact that so many Leafs fans are trying to hard to spin this into a win for the team is crazy. No. The team tied themselves into a 4 year deal that will do nothing to help them improve. Running back the Core FOUR!!! is not the solution. Nor is throwing massive amounts into players who have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt they can't win is a Giant L.

[@curlyb]

It's nice to see somebody who works for the organization finally weigh in with their undoubtedly smart thoughts! Thanks Wayne!!!!

[@DDDDdJagr]

@waynejones5635 if you think Sid is right on anything hockey, that’s a red flag. If he has anything right, he heard it from someone else. Big sack of Portuguese potatooooggeeeee

[@100ballster]

"The team tied themselves to a four year deal that will do nothing to help them win!" Haha 😂😂😂! So, signing a top four or five player in the world won't help you win lol? Would you prefer that Toronto throws the last seven years of chemistry building in the garbage, changes the core players, and risks setting themselves back three, four, five seasons? You're being silly and hyperbolic... just like loudmouth Sid who's just trying to get clips and clicks. Toronto will have Matthews for a minimum of twelve years right up to the end, or close to the end, of his prime. If the Leafs haven't won a cup in the next five years, at least they'll have the option to move on from Austin. Let's say that he did sign that extra four years, and his play goes into significant decline for whatever reason. Everyone in Toronto would be pissing and moaning like they are right now about Tavares's cap hit. If they choose to resign Matthews at thirty one years old, there's no way he'll get a raise in cap percentage. Tavares will be making half or less of his current salary in a couple seasons if they resign him, and maybe they don't even sign Nylander after this season. So knock it off about "the core 4"! How long did Ovy and the Caps take to get their cup? Ten years? Very soon, more salary cap will be allocated to our defence. What's the point in being so negative before the season has even started!?

[@DDDDdJagr]

@@100ballster I can’t believe how well you put all of that hahah. Finally, someone who gets it.

[@100ballster]

@@DDDDdJagr 👍🏻

[@animalactions5111]

Maybe one of the reasons teams in Canada have been losers for three decades is because fans listen to people like Sid Seixeiro. Seriously?

[@tourstriker]

I don't agree w Sid. While I'd love to think a high level player has 1 + 8 good years left in him, that's a massive gamble. Auston is rolling the dice here a bit, too. He would take 8 and guarantee that he gets the extra four years, but he's betting on himself a bit, and I like that. What happens if that wrist blows out, or we have another injury that reduces his productivity? Leafs hold the bag for 8 years. Sid, this is a good deal. If Auston is still producing after the next 1 + 4, then he deserves what he gets. If the Leafs can't get Cup competitive in this five year period w Auston, we're not doing after that anyway.

[@kurtwpg]

Truth be told they will need an influx of good players to keep the window open past the end of this contract anyhow. Nylander will be 32 when this contract expires, Bertuzzi will be 33, Rielly 34, and Tavares 37.

[@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty]

Exactly how I see this. Matthews has bet on himself big time and at age 31 there’s a lot that can happen to derail his production by then. I would have taken the certainty but have to admire his confidence in a way.

[@Tansle620]

wow i actually side with Sid for once. He is only one that is apparently understanding that cap hits decrease with term, Matthews has ensured he will remain around 15% cap hit

[@flytheskymyway]

Apparently I don’t understand either. 15% cap hit?

[@Tansle620]

@@flytheskymyway 15% cap hit to the teams salary cap. 15% of the Leafs salary.

[@Weekend658]

Honestly, he’s not wrong…. We signed Sebastian Aho, to an 8 year extension and we wouldn’t change terms. He’s our franchise player

[@35jigganator]

WRONG. Yes, you want him to stay long term, but it isn't about the Matthews contract or even the Marner or Willy contracts. It's about John Tavares' disaster of a contract, because as good as he is, he's not 11million good. After two more years, 11 million is off the books and the cap will be going up, so the Leafs will have TONS of flexibility. Players of his kind will make that amount going forward, it's just he's the first to be contractually able to sign such a deal. So unless there's another government scheduled ''pandemic'', this is a good deal for both sides.

[@habs25in08]

Agree 100% tavares signing was the dumbest move i’ve seen and it set a precedent for other player contracts.

[@user-df7fk5vd8d]

Sid, Auston put Brad Treliving and Brendan Shanahan on notice. You have 5 years to build the team to win, if this team doesn't win Auston is gone and i don't blame Auston . He doesn't want to be the next Matts Sundin, Doug Gilmore, Wendel Clark and so on. If you think Conner McDavid is just going to sign a 8 year deal with Jack Campbell in the net your Nutts, he is gone . You got possible the best US p[layer of all time to play 12 years in Canada, how many US player are doing that in Calgary or Winnipeg. This deal forces the Leaf management to get this team built right and win now.

[@MrRamonski13]

Hey Sid what's the weather gonna be like in the next ten days?

[@joanneogley4874]

AM now has 49 goals as of Feb 19. Love when this guy has to eat his words

[@screwTHEwood]

Sid secretly hates frank for that input he made on Mathews at the end lmao😅

[@haysbrickell9579]

I read or heard somewhere that Matthews' goal is to make $200 million before he retires. The amount is totallly mind boggling.

[@danielremm4278]

In his mind, he is already taking a discounted rate at only a 1.611M increase.

[@carmine6092]

Sid's point is 100% correct on the first contract. Matthews has all the leverage here including a no trade clause. You either lost him for nothing or capitulated. This rant is 100% accurate for the Dubas contract of 5 years through when he was an RFA.

[@slowmo0925]

Why so much money for the player that doesn't show up playoffs time?What is it?

[@miker883]

Complain about Trudeau’s lack of results the past 8 years , instead of Mathews contract.

[@dagger4442]

I pay for season tickets ....many do. Fans are tired of this crazy organization. I won't be dropping another dime at them!

[@dom4591]

@@dagger4442 similar issues seem to spread across all MLSE teams except for the Argos. Raptors, TFC and Leafs all have talent. But the teams are never built to compliment that talent. And they often overpay players.

[@Aryn-ju1yf]

@@dom4591 you can't really compare different sports bc there are variables. Certain sports sell more in certain markets and decisions are made bc of certain variables. Leafs are the most wealthiest franchise in the league but have won nothing in many years. Proof is in the pudding. They signed Matthews bc he sells. Hence ownership profits more. Nylander is a Swede and in Europe hockey is not the sport most Europeans pay attention to...#88 does not sell like Matthews does but Nylander is more clutch and can play under pressure. Matthews is not. I do not give a rats ass about his awards or his 50 goals. It's a team sport .

[@dom4591]

@@Aryn-ju1yf all of these teams are run by the same company. The reason I compare it is because of the similar issues these teams consistently face. A lot of the time it starts from the top

[@natedawg3855]

I don’t usually agree with Sid, but I agree with him on this.

[@alcollins9450]

I too was amongst the many who applauded this signing, however I do find it difficult to argue with your logic. This was an AM34 favoured Contract, certainly not TML. The proof will be in his performance during this period. We need to be better than making an “appearance” in the 2nd Round. Help to lead us there AM34 and I’ll be happy to see you get paid ANYTHING you want.

[@jsstar76]

Once again Sid makes it the Sportsnet breakfast television show who goes on and on and on and never stops complaining.

[@CoolsBreeze]

It's ridiculous. Every morning. Like he's got a porcupine up his you know what.

[@Tansle620]

sid is actually right for once on this. It's a terrible team contract. His cap hit is going to remain around 13-15% for the next 4-5years. Then he will have to reup for another 15% cap hit. Instead of signing 8 now and maybe year 6-8 his cap hit is below 12% maybe close 10%. And it's still 4 years bc you're not going to want to go into the final season of his contract without Auston signed and extension hasn't been negotiated.

[@williamsherratt1705]

Absolutely 👍🏻 ... Wendy Whiner Sid ... Matthews is not the cookie-cutter contract guy in the league 🙄. The best player in the league dictates a new mold for contracts. Whether the management side of things likes it or not. Now, the LEAFS will have a great look at Mathews over 5yrs to decide to lock him down further. As opposed to Sid "LOCK HIM DOWN FOR 8YRS OR CUT HIM LOOSE" attitude 🙄.

[@williamsherratt1705]

Yep, Stooge ... sad to watch.

[@williamsherratt1705]

@@AstroBear11 Haha ... 😄 with nothing on it 😄

[@pahul79]

Sid is right. The leafs stars don’t care about winning, only money

[@bmoshareholderappleshareho855]

Hockey is a business. Isn't every hockey player like that?

[@Balk81]

Sid, you are goof. Nothing else needs to be said. GOOF

[@seanpierce2943]

Rumors are William Nylander is open to a long term deal unlike the other two. If you can get him at around 10 for 7/8 years I would take it because he actually shows up in the post season just like Reilly.

[@kurtwpg]

Even at extreme term, 10 is too much. Meier is better and slightly younger. If he makes $100k a year more than Meier he is doing well.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@kurtwpg Meier is not better than Nylander.

[@StonedFireHead]

​@@okyouknowwhatevermeier finishes every check and is a power forward.. Nylander on defense is still not good enough for more than 9Mil

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@StonedFireHead Meier is not better than Nylander. And I'm not even a Leafs fan. Meier is definitely not a power forward. Nylander might not be great defensively but neither is Meier.

[@Cedisdead]

​@@StonedFireHeadthen Meier is better then Matthews and Marner too 😂

[@johnsinglet575]

I hate the Leafs but this is a solid contract. You shouldnt overpay him as in his 30s. Tradeable if you wanted to exercise that option

[@TheUniverseAroundUsNews]

I think it's a fine contract for both... sid forgets that things can happen, injuries or a decline... how many times have good players sign 8yrs and that player ended up declining or career ending injuries? Look at the Habs and Price for example... We have Matthews for another 5yrs... whatever, worry about his next contract in 2028.

[@Krokodilius]

they're giving up soooooo much money compared to tampa. tampa gets better third line players and they're gonna win the rubber match.

[@chachifeere]

We essentially have this guy for 12 years

[@tml184]

5 years.

[@geraldt8212]

You know Sid thinks Rick Dipietros contract with the Islanders is still a good deal for the team

[@markjoseph8795]

*Hey Sid. In 2020 Bell CEO Mirko Bibic, (your boss), made $13.59 million in compensation.* *In the CEO world, I doubt Mr. Bibic would be in the top 1000 best CEO's on earth.* *Matthews, on the other hand, is certainly in the top 5 forwards on the planet.* *C'mon Sid let's have a rant regarding the salary of a disposable CEO.* 🤣🤣🤣

[@johncameron1133]

6 goals 2 games to open the season looks pretty good si far

[@steph1433]

Sids a Habs fan...dont be surprised. But hes not entirely wrong.

[@bmoshareholderappleshareho855]

That means that any NHL player who scores more points than Matthews is going to want an increase in pay as well.

[@Murrski]

Is this SportsNet? Leave the sports to the professionals.

[@dsm1984]

Dumb take. He’s there best player he is there for 5 more years. What would be better Sid????? Why does 8 matter??? That’s why he’s on breakfast tv

[@CanadianBongRipper]

Sid shitting on the Leafs will never get old

[@jamiesucie2685]

Sid is losing it if he actually believes Matthews deserves more than McDavid. That is by far the most Homer take I’ve heard yet.

[@100ballster]

McKinnon makes more than McDavid. That's what happens as years go on and salaries get larger. Soon, a worse player than Matthews will sign for more. Tavares was offered 13 million like five years ago haha! How do you not understand this? Did you have a Homer moment?

[@jamiesucie2685]

@@100ballster thanks for showing up to the party 2 weeks late dipshit. It’s not a matter IF he’s making more, it’s that Sid thinks he deserves to. Is basic English comprehension too hard for you princess?

[@matcrispy3748]

so you sign a 4 year deal, kinda’ locked him up; you could not let matthews play out the season and prove he’s 7 @ 12, (only thing left on the table is the stanely cup, boys)

[@chanzethomas580]

This guy proves again and again why he was pushed out of sports and into morning television 😆 Sid is a clown

[@sixandathird915]

What a ridiculous take by Sid and the guy in the little corner screen hahaha...Auston Matthews is giving himself to the Leafs from 18-31! That's showing commitment to the team. Also, Auston turning 31 could be another Tavares situation so we avoid that potential. Treliving can now build around Auston on a five year plan that allows for new contracts or not for Willy, Mitch and JT over the next two years, all while identifying and assembling a Future Cup Winner!

[@rickymartin875]

Future Cup Winner??? Ask your Doctor if Haldol is right for you? 🫢

[@Takhar7]

You should really set a reminder to revisit these comments 5-10 years down the road. When this team doesn't win anything because their stars who don't show up in the playoffs, prioritized their own bank accounts over their chances of winning, while literally EVERY other star across the league is signing 8 year deals, you're going to look back on these comments with such a level of foolishness. And all the while, we were here telling you, that it's just not going to work. You simply cannot win with this level of "committment to the self over the team" first

[@rickymartin875]

@@Takhar7 Any NHL team that has three 10 million dollar + non physical forwards will NEVER win a Cup. Period.

[@Takhar7]

@@rickymartin875 especially if they are on short term deals

[@rickymartin875]

@@Takhar7 Imagine Toronto having to get into a best of 7 series against Vegas? lol

[@baohoaily]

And fans like Sid will lament about paying a sharply declining 30 plus year old Matthews $13.25M a year had he signed for 8.

[@leaf_fan_b3829]

Sid is right, it's a bad deal for the team. Great for Matthews as he can sign 7-8 years at 31 and cash out The Core is the problem with the Leafs, they don't win in the playoffs 1 series win, in 7 years. And these guys don't show up in the playoffs and theirs no cap space left to get them help. And the core doesn't care it's all about the $$$ to them

[@herbcashmore9271]

Sid hit the nail on the head. It's basic economics what he's saying. If you lock up a star at 13 mil over 8 years compared to 13 mil over 4 then a subsequent 16 over 4 (guessing at numbers here), that's an additional 3 mil a year you have to play with. The writing is on the wall. Arizona will have a new arena in place in 5 years when this contract expires, which everybody knows is home to Matthews. Do you not think he'll be heading home on his next contract when the team (Coyotes) will look at finally marketing a winning team with a bona fine superstar in a new building. I understand the cap is projected to go up, and the Leafs could have that extra 3 mil at the time this contract expires, but why handcuff yourself. It's clear to me as well that this is a don't lose a marketable Matthews market rather than. A win a cup market. The longer this drought goes on, the more the payoff in the end. Maybe this year is our year. No better way to drive up profits than get close, but not win.

[@fakeaccount8678]

Auston would not have signed 13 × 8 yrs

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

But 13M for 8 years is just not on the table. The idea that this contract, soon to be surpassed by other players, is somehow bad for 4 years, is just not framed in reality.

[@crazycanuck7811]

You totally forget that for 8 years it would be 15 mill at least. By the time 5 years passes the cap will he much higher and his new contract not an issue. Learn the game

[@Rooz247]

enjoy mcdavid 8 years 18 million Edmonton

[@Rooz247]

this is the same bs I heard for this contract haters will get their karma

[@RamBo028]

Once again Sid speaking facts

[@tml184]

He speaks crap actually. He's a snowflake pushing the gay agenda.

[@Rooz247]

2016 draft 1.Matthews is still a Maple Leaf 2.Laine is not a Jet 3.Dubois is not a Blue Jacket 4.Puljujarvi is not an Oiler 5. Tkachuk is not a Flame Talk about that Sid before you run your zero hockey knowledge mouth. Worry about the Bluejays and that terrible manager that cost them an 8-1 lead vs a franchise (Seattle) that hadn't been in the playoffs for 22 years

[@vintagejoehill]

Exactly, exactly, exactly. He's being obtuse on purpose for clicks. What a clown.

[@donniedoesdishes]

and everyone of them players has had more playoff success

[@Rooz247]

are you a clown? Tkachuk was dogshit under microscope in Calgary, he no showed majority of playoff runs. He plays for Florida, no pressure market and absolute garbage fanbase.He couldnt handle the spotlight Matthews embraces the spotlight

[@vintagejoehill]

@@donniedoesdishes so far. lol. God Leafs fans are the stupidest people sometimes.

[@robertbloomfield2197]

@@donniedoesdishes But none have won the cup.

[@haysbrickell9579]

At age 31, I'm guessing Matthews will want to hit 1 final jackpot of, say, 6 years at $15 million. That would put his total career earnings at a whopping $205 million, which is almost beyond comprehension.

[@Brandy66611]

Can’t sign a player for 8 years if the player won’t sign for 8 years.

[@dagger4442]

Then you trade him...no cup will be coming here anyway

[@CoolsBreeze]

@@dagger4442 trading a generational player, and probably the best player the Leafs have ever had in his prime. And you think you're going to get something better in return? Glad you're not involved in trades.

[@pomerlain8924]

@@CoolsBreeze What have they gotten with him in 7 seasons? One series win. You all continue to be blinded by the allure of having one of the best players, and overlooking how that best player disappears when it really matters. And all you say is that they need to build a better team around them? Only problem is, with what cap space?

[@CoolsBreeze]

@pomerlain8924 okay let's play this game who do you think you can get in a trade that's as good as Matthews? A person that's as talented as he is abd wants to come to Toronto?

[@CoolsBreeze]

@@JonathanCharron54And you know for a fact that any of those players you mentioned would want to play in Toronto? Lol this isn't NHL 23 where you can trade any player you want without any issue. Like it or not NHL players don't want to play in Canadian markets or be big centre of attention. When you trade an elite player like Matthews you never get back something of greater or equal value.

[@5abivt]

4 years is good for a trade. trade him fast

[@jamimarshall1012]

Well, there Syd I would argue. This is a great deal for the team. Do you want to be paying a 31 year-old till he’s 35 the same amount of money, if not more(because believe it or not, the price would’ve went up if the term was for eight years just facts) or be able to reassess his contract at the age of 31 when he will probably be declining in production, I think this is a master class on MLSE’s side of things as well

[@tml184]

well said. Sid is a moron.

[@duncanmac2195]

Its reality. If the Leafs dont win a cup in the next 4 years, they never will and Mathews will want to move on.

[@coreyrees840]

Auston went the Basketball route essentially and not the old model of term that nhlers are still using. Logic used to be get as much term as you could because “job security” so to speak. Put in a solid year or two get a big deal and sit back and didn’t really matter how you perform/got hurt once you got your deal. Nba players prefer the short term “bet on myself” approach where they’ll sign 2,3,4 year deals for the monster payouts knowing/betting they’ll still be healthy and prime to get a second and even third big deal because of the short terms. Bron signs two year deals all the time and renegotiates after the first year. Curry is after signing two 4 year deals worth hundreds of millions each instead of one 8 year where potentially after that deal he’s be getting a smaller “old guy” deal. You need stars to win Sid that’s why there’s so much emphasis on making sure he stays put.

[@user-sf4hj3bm4g]

Its a great deal for both parties and Nylander should be kept and given what he deserves. Specially with Tavars gone in 2 years.

[@Harosho]

Four years at that price is pretty good, it also reduces the risk of paying him out on a reduction of play or injury in those years 31-35. What I’d like to know is, when this new contract expires: will he be looking for eight years max money? If that is the case I’d let him walk.

[@retired8123]

He's only 25 years old

[@Harosho]

@@retired8123 yeah and he has one year left on his deal putting his next deal at 31 years old. Sept birthday.

[@TheMightymolar]

Counter point: the Leafs' window is 3-4 years for a cup. Do you want him for 8 years? The first Dubas contact sucked. This one is less bad.

[@ryangagnier1115]

Sid needs to relax....I lost respect for him when he pretended to go crazy over the Ivan Provarov jersey debacle

[@angelwirelivecom]

Too many people make too much money. This hurts the average fan and is also inflationary. Matthews should have done what was best for the team and asked for 12 million per.

[@BillyBob-pu2vc]

Hey Sid , Give it up and go have a Bud Light

[@80sLover329]

Sid is 100% right here - the Leafs will never win by caving to their players’ demands like this. I wonder who the only other person is that Sid makes reference to that shares the same opinion as him on the contract length - I think it’s Bryan Hayes from TSN overdrive that keeps beating the same drum (and both Sid and Bryan are right). The bigger issue is that Matthews has no jam - no grit to standup and get in Brad Marchand’s face when he trips Timothy L. And sends him crashing into the boards… Mitchie is the same..: Johnny T is the same… Billy Nylander is the same… if the NHL had an award for “nicest team in the NHL” the Leafs would win that every year, with no contest. So that brings up another point that Sid suggested that he’s right about - what IS the goal here for the Leafs, MLSE? Is it to win a Cup?? I really don’t think so. I think the MLSE board members (let’s all em “boardies”) will be happy to win a Cup… but they don’t demand a Cup. As long as TV ratings are what they are for the Leafs, and the corporates keep putting butts in those expensive seats at Scotiabank Arena… then that’s good enough. If the Leafs somehow win a Cup, MLSE boardies are happy. If the Leafs don’t win a Cup and go quietly in the 1st or 2nd round, MLSE boardies are still ok with it I guess. Why else would Brendan Shanahan, who didn’t play nice guy hockey in his day, condone putting this “nice” group of players on the ice, with 4 nice guys eating up so much of the cap?? It’s because MLSE is ok with this. It’s the only explanation. Auston got his money..: Wee Willy Nylander will get his… and eventually so too will Mitchie… Johnny T will mercifully retire to free up that 11 M - can you believe 11M for this guy????? Who is not fit to be a captain????. End result - as long as the Matthews-Marner-Nylander trio is in place eating up $36 M between them, then it’ll be the same result in April. Out quietly in the first/second round… even though Matthews would have scored like 70 goals with 100+ points and Mitchie and Billy Nylander have great offensive regular season stats too. A regular season team that wilts in the playoffs. That’s what coming in April 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028. Get used to it. Believe it or not - I am a Leaf’s fan… but the writing is on the wall. I would love to hear somebody tell me why I am wrong in this assessment.

[@theothersideofthestory1594]

I agree with him about Morgan Reilly.

[@topshot8013]

6 goals in 2 games bud stick to the weather

[@johnturgeon6826]

The Leafs screwed themselves when they signed Johnny T. From that point forward they handcuffed themselves with the cap amount paid to the core 4.

[@seancosgrove1]

"I don't think he's a player you can win a cup with" I remember when they said that about a guy in Buffalo and he won a cup in his first full season with another team.

[@RG-lr4pk]

I remember when that guy signed a deal that was cap friendly. Matthews has never and will never.

[@seancosgrove1]

@@RG-lr4pk The gap between Eichel and Matthews is probably $3 million. Buffalo didn't get a discount at the time.

[@wrotoeshaw9270]

It is a tough market when people like Sid get any views on athletic activities

[@Leafsbetter]

if Matthews stays in toronto the rest of his career the suicide rate is going up at least 20%. ppl rlly won’t be able to rest until he’s out huh?

[@TMBpk]

This guy just says stuff to grab views for this shell of a former self news channel. City in the 80s and 90s was just on another level.

[@kermitfrog593]

Tammie like, 'been a while since I had to pretend to care about sports but here we go...'

[@tml184]

As if Frankie Flowers has ever watched a hockey game.

[@PoliticallyAffiliated]

Lol he’s the leading goal scorer in the nhl… for a few seasons… his context was up, he made lots of money, the most in the league. In a year or 2, I new superstars contract will be up, and he’ll be the next all time money maker… and So on… and so on.

[@mikehannon4097]

Once again Toronto sports media taking the negative view and trashing on players. What have these guys ever done besides criticize.

[@slider903]

Sid and I actually agree on something. Odd.

[@tml184]

You can't force someone to sign for 8 years.

[@bucketophil]

Sid: did you take less money on your contract so that BT could hire some more news folks to get you to the top of the ratings. No? Then why would anyone else take less than what they want.

[@TwoToneTonyLee]

Thank you for saying it, finally

[@andrewmachado6988]

LETS GO ARGOS!!! (A MLSE owned team who actually does well and wins chanpionships, yet get no respect from Toronto sports fans and media).

[@rickymartin875]

Only goofballs and flunkies follow the CFL instead of the NFL! 🤣😆🤣

[@dagger4442]

You really don't get sports.... Leafs drive the engine of the NHL. You really don't understand how money gets tossed around . To whom or the reasons involved... No Canadian team has won in 30 years...same tenure as league commissionar. You just can't compare different sport markets. Very different animal. SHOW ME THE MONEY! lol

[@rickymartin875]

@@dagger4442 Show me the Cup in Makbeleafland? 🤣😆🤣

[@andrewmachado6988]

@@dagger4442 You can’t blame a league commissioner for Canadian team’s failures. It’s been due to poor management, bad scouting, or signing players that did not pan out. How is that Betteman’s fault?

[@Aryn-ju1yf]

@@andrewmachado6988 You are one naive dude man. Exactly 30 years man. Montreal was the last team. Same year Bettman was brought in. Teams in the US who are struggling financially go on cup runs. In the US winning sells. In Canada you will still have revenue bc fans will still show. You don't understand how it works. I look at facts instead of assumptions. Further look at the draft lottery. That's even rigged . It's all about the money more then winning. It's all about what will sell . Look at the fifa scandal. That happens in all sports not just fb.

[@THELEAFSFAN]

I think the contract fair I just wish it was a few years longer

[@NotExplicable]

No real choice. Its up to the team to build properly around him Dubas built a team with poor balance which makes it tougher to build a contender. If we had a true RHD or stable core this wouldn't be a problem.

[@Oldmanflyfishing]

MLSE is so worried that their cash cow is going to run to another team, they give him EVERYTHING he wants. From wearing a purse, to basically running the team, but hey that’s the way they want it.

[@meanmaverick7256]

PLEASE!!! Even if he had signed for the 8yrs you would be complaining about the AAV, did he take the max cap percentage from the team? NO!? Then money was left on the table to start with and over the next 4-5yrs the cap is going up by a lot so that percentage only goes down.. can those other players say the same? NOPE, almost ALL of them too the max percentage they could at the time and because of the cap freeze they handcuffed there teams for how many years? 3-4? You Millennials need to learn to be happy with what you got instead of complaining for the sake of complaining.. it's rather pathetic and extremely annoying.

[@billbuffalo6755]

Sid is such a tool now a days. I used to love his perspectives when he was woth tim. He belongs on that radical Left leaning Network

[@BurtTurbo]

Good god. “Radical left” do you even know what you’re talking about. I’m sure you think you do. What a clown.

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

If everyone in the industry is saying this is a good deal and you're the only one saying it's an awful contract... Hey Sid... maybe you're the one who is wrong?

[@Sam19509]

Lol Matthews gonna dip Toronto in 4 years as a ufa like John Tavares bolted the NY Islanders.😂

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

@@Sam19509 His extension only kicks in after the 2023-24 season. That gives the Leafs 5 seasons, potentially, with Matthews in his absolute prime. In five years he'll be 30 years old. If he dips in five years, he dips. Who cares. What matters is that he's here now, and fully committed.

[@erikmacaluso]

Lol. No

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

Having a top 5 scorer locked up for 5 more seasons is a bad thing? @@erikmacaluso

[@SICKO1337]

I don't know anybody that is saying it's a good contract except Leafs media and brainwashed Leaf fans

[@ericlandon1510]

Sid... This is why you host a morning show and not a sports show. He doesn't OWE us 8 years and why the hell would we want him for a full 8? He has given us 13 years at the end of the contract, he has earned the right to look elsewhere, plus it's a good evaluation period. Sorry Sid, but as usual you are clueless.

[@trumptrashends2024]

we are not qualified to question shanny if you do he will make you look like a fool

[@seancosgrove1]

"You need to sign your star player for 8 years to build a team around him". By the time this contract is up, they would've had him for 12 years including his cheap AAV ELC. If you couldn't build a team around him in 12 years, the Leafs messed up.

[@billverge7822]

luv ya Sid..however when you say that the Toronto market isn't a "tough" market to play in ..when NHL players come out and say the market is tough to play in (Gudas,O'Reilly) maybe it is a tough market to play in Sid? just saying.