This is China's Most Wanted Cult Leader

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On January 23, 1999, five cultists self-immolated in Tiananmen Square. This is their insane story.
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00:00 THE EVENT
03:55 I - WHAT IS THIS CULT?
07:45 II - THE PROBLEMS BEGIN
11:25 III - IT GETS DANGEROUS
15:40 CLOSING THOUGHTS
17:20 a note on censorship

[@spectacles-dm]

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[@ultimategamer876]

Great way to plug. Freedom of information to the People of China!

[@edwardsnowden8821]

​@@ultimategamer876🙄🙄🙄

[@abhikanur9606]

can you make one video on india

[@yarrlegap6940]

Epoch Times is a far-right rag?! ... That's a bit rich. ;-)

[@maihuy7180]

Hello everyone, you may not believe it, but the self-immolation incident mentioned on the video was staged by the Chinese Communist Party. As soon as the self-immolation incident took place, the Chinese Communist Party government repeatedly broadcast the video of the self-immolation on China's main media channels. They show it over and over again on TV with regular frequency for several months, even years. Why does the Chinese Communist Party do that? Isn't that slandering Falun Gong? Not only that, the Chinese Communist Party has spent nearly 1/3 of the total amount of money from the national budget just to persecute Falun Gong. While Falun Gong practitioners are people who live according to the standards of Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance, do not sabotage national security, and obey the law, they are taught to be good people and better. Because they are People who value human life more than anything, so self-immolation is not possible, so this is an arrangement by the Chinese Communist Party. Since 1999, the Chinese Communist Party government has devoted all its resources to persecuting Falun Gong. Falun Gong practitioners are innocent people, they were kidnapped without reason into forced labor camps, they were brutally beaten, starved, and the Chinese Communist Party government even robbed them of their internal organs. organs of Falun Gong practitioners while they were still alive to gain illegal profits. The organ transplant industry in China is quite developed, because they have a large number of organs obtained from organ harvesting, when you come to China for the purpose of organ transplant, they can respond. Meet that need within a period of just a few days or even a few hours. The persecution of Falun Gong practitioners continues from 1999 to today. This brutal persecution must end. If you listen to the propaganda of the Chinese Communist Party Government. You are an accomplice of that devil. People can go online and print "The Persecution of Falun Gong Practitioners" and you can find a lot of specific and accurate evidence. Hope you can choose to follow what is honest and good to avoid becoming evil

[@williambrasky3891]

One minimal criticism, China may not be very religious, but that doesn't mean the ppl there aren't superstitious. They are super, super superstitious.

[@scottstiefel2061]

When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

Depends how remote you live from large cities and how old you are. The most common "superstition" still practiced by modern Chinese people is praying to your deceased family members for your family's prosperity and safety.

[@zg_rq]

Our whole society is superstitious. Like my mom.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

The official statistics paint China as mostly Atheist, but it seems in practice there are many more Christians, possibly more Muslims, and way, way more ancestor worshippers than the statistics suggest, especially in rural areas.

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

@@scottstiefel2061 everyone dose this I don’t Understand how my computer works but it does

[@egg9033]

Set a timer from now till Hasan or xQc steals this video.

[@BorderOllie]

weird way to spell Jinx lol /s

[@egg9033]

@@BorderOllie I hope it doesn't happen. I was just trying to say the video shows effort and dedication, unlike react content.

[@Civman-yr8lb]

Wish I had the link to that clip where Hasan backtracks on the Uighur genocide. Disgusting little maggot.

[@PerryKobalt]

​@@egg9033they'll get away with it

[@karlw7847]

Gaming chair reacts

[@charlesbrain6220]

Li Hongzhi & L. Ron Hubbard could have been best friends

[@spectacles-dm]

should have*

[@infomatters.]

@@spectacles-dm would have

[@unexpected2475]

Falun Gong is basically China's answer to Scientology yeah

[@PKVeteran]

That is shallow. Falun has trainings, you can practice kung fu and actually be healthier. Scientology just has lots of labor.

[@marcospisanis739]

Even Reverend Moon has a lot of comparison to Li too.

[@Huggbees]

Damn dude the level of production on display here is mesmerizing. Keep it up

[@spectacles-dm]

Woah! Love your stuff man! Been watching for years. Honored by the comment. Thank you!

[@Shaneyesss]

Holy shit this video brought back so many memories for me. I grew up in China and I vaguely remember this incident in the news. And I was horrified to see graphic bodies on the paper itself. I was only 7-8 at the time but I still remember how shocked I was.

[@zg_rq]

grewing up outside China I saw Falun Gong's video about this first. They claimed that it was staged by the government because of some "suspicious" points in the reports. But then I read the original Chinese reports and found that those details or footages were misinterpreted by Falun Gong. Now, I feel that their lies still hold for their practitioners. However, once Li Hongzhi passes away, Falun Gong will definitely collapse, because he's considered the Creator. At that time, many people would probably betray Li Hongzhi

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

It was a staged for TV, it’s a hoax to justify and escalate the persecution of Falun Gong, there are alot of things that can’t be explained, such as why police were carrying 8kg fire extinguisher, which they never do, unless they are planning to put out a fire. The CCP are the ultimate deceivers, it was made for the shock factor, but those who know the CCP history know that it was a fake.

[@user-dc5ku9co1l]

Falun Dafa is not religious, Falun Dafa is a cultivation method. Hoping you guys can realize and have a right view about Falun Dafa

[@maljamin]

​@@user-dc5ku9co1lnobody said anything about that... so why speak non sequitir?

[@J_Stronsky]

The fight between Falun Gong and the CCP reminds me that life doesn't have 'good guys' & 'bad guys' and sometimes everyone in a story can be a POS

[@koharumi1]

Pos?

[@TheTomatoHater]

@@koharumi1 abbreviation for "piece of shit"

[@Jreg2]

@@koharumi1 its short for Piece of Shit

[@samuelpalmer3855]

@@koharumi1 It means "Piece of Shit"

[@notu13man63]

@@koharumi1 It means "piece of shit"

[@phank.s.4052]

Anyone who has been to China would know that they are not "atheistic." Most people believe in some spiritual things and follow traditions of local folk religions.

[@cadenibz]

The government of china is atheistic. And practices state atheism! That is what he meant!

[@coolsonic8982]

I live in Paris and when I learned that the ppl behind Shen Yu were in a sect I was baffled. I see their posters every day in the metro

[@Mrwhomeyou]

Shen Yu is like 80% C/B-level dancer so at least the dancing is nice. The other 20% is lmao

[@PyroNexus22]

I remember watching China Uncensored and NTD TV youtube channels, which I soon realized were propaganda. Those guys were also hard advocates for Falun Gong. I think they're still popular channels.

[@sergeantjoe6802]

I watch China Uncensored but not peruse NTD nor Epoch Times. When China Uncensored do mention falun gong, I take them as a grain of salt except for the repression which did happen. Otherwise CU's content is satirical and truthful about the CCP.

[@PyroNexus22]

​@@sergeantjoe6802 I could hardly call any propaganda truthful. For example, they repeatedly say that the reason for China's invention of the Simplified characters was to make the old texts unreadable, which is just utter nonsense. They talk shit about anything Chinese. They called Hero (the 2002 movie) a propaganda of authoritarianism and imperialism, which is just the dumbest take. And in general, when they report "truthful" events, they deprive them of all context. They make it look like China is the worst country on the planet, which is far from truth. I'm not a tankie, I don't simp for the CCP, but calling them worse than America, Russia, Israel, France, etc. shows complete ignorance of world politics. Is China good? Ofc not! But is it as bad as China Uncensored makes it out to be? Hell no!

[@GTFO_0]

​@@sergeantjoe6802what can we expect from westerners that literally take anything demonisung and Mocking china even tho they know it is funded vy cult and such but😂😂China bad content gets so much Love specially in YT ...not in reddit and Other Social media where people use brains 😂

[@vcqrsfdwc1987]

@@sergeantjoe6802 “satirical and truthful” meh typical westoid

[@salakast]

@@sergeantjoe6802 Chris Chappel is a literal mouthpiece for Falun Gong. I used to watch him a lot until I realized that in his eyes, nothing good ever happens in China if the CCP is involved, including its incredible economic growth, which he constantly says is greatly exaggerated or just a flat out lie.

[@brucecurtis6910]

I’ve seen 4 ads for Shen Yun while watching this. It’s ridiculous

[@DamianYoko]

love the format, editing and sound design. really pro-tier.

[@neoxyte]

You are absolutely one of the best new rising KZbinrs. Great content. Please dont ever sacrifice quality. Its getting harder to find high quallity and original long-form content on this platform.

[@michaelsilver253]

Watching the Epoch Times go from a purely nutjob cartoon publication to something anyone looked at as credible has been nausea inducing

[@HondaSquid]

I've seen the articles when delivering it to people's homes and thought "what is this ridiculous garbage". It all makes sense now.

[@herberttlbd]

I don't think it is any coincidence that the Epoch Time, Shen Yun, and NTD seemed to ramp up their output after they started collaborating with Steve Bannon.

[@AquaticIdealist]

The biggest problem is getting reliable information out of China. When the Epoch Times is calling a covid outbreak in Northeast China over a month before the CPC admits it, it is a very troubling situation

[@herberttlbd]

​@@AquaticIdealist​It was clear to casual followers of Chinese media that something was happening in early January. I'm on the other side of the world and my first order of face masks was on the 13th of January. It wasn't an official announcement but everybody with a passing familiarity of China could read between the lines when they cancelled the Lunar New Year celebration on the 23rd.

[@Storymaker1316]

@nicholastime1513 a hard language to learn if you don’t have an oriental language background

[@azazel166]

The human body is so perfect that your own immune system attacks your brain if it spots a teratoma with brain tissue.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

What is a teratoma

[@azazel166]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 Cancerous tumor containing cells from various parts of the body, it can grow hair, teeth and even eyes. They form in the ovaries and testes. Search it up if you can handle the hideousness.

[@edwardsnowden8821]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 I think a cancerous cell

[@cadenibz]

Cool fact though I imagine everyone knows that the immune system fights cancer 😭

[@thepbrit]

@@cadenibz The point I believe they are making is that our immune system is flawed enough that when it observes any cancerous brain tissue it's attacks are so indiscriminate that it attacks much of the healthy parts of the brain too. Our bodies are amazingly complex and can do incredible things, but they can also be very very stupid.

[@williambrasky3891]

It truly is remarkable how influential Falun Gong's media operation has become, especially on English language reporting on China. It is almost impossible to find Western China coverage that hasn't been tainted by their dubious propaganda. Would love to see a deep dive into their media empire that highlights a few of their most successful disinformation campaigns/ enduring misconceptions linking back to their "reporting." BTW, really appreciate your covering this topic. Too few ppl are aware of Falun Gong's existence, much less their media presence. With tensions between China & the West on the rise, accurate reporting is more important than ever. It's a bit scary knowing this and seeing a lot of their propaganda repeated word for word from sitting US senators and the like. And while it mostly comes from the Right, it's not unusual to hear stories they've "reported" on the more moderate side of the isle. I'm afraid it has already become a serious problem. We've just yet to realize it. It's the next "Russian disinformation operation." Except this time the magnitude of the problem is, if anything, underestimated.

[@antlerman7644]

Well said

[@KL-un8sf]

Lmao yeah they believe some dumb shit but their persecution by the ccp was very suspicious and honestly there’s no real need to lie about the ccps rhetoric or actions. We know they lie about their stats, everyone including neutral countries know this, there is widespread persecution of dissenting opinions, everyone acknowledges this and their foreign ministry is always sabre rattling you can literally find this on official channels. The apologism here reeks of tankie.

[@PKVeteran]

Does it sound and look like a color revolution? Maybe it is

[@GTFO_0]

​@@Ju2000lochina Unsensored goes brrbtr

[@williambrasky3891]

@@user-dc5ku9co1l We do. It’s a dangerous cult. It is cruel. It is dishonest. It is exploitative. It brings nothing but harm into the world, takes nothing bad out of it, and serves to enrich a select few. And since we’re hoping, I hope all of you stop trying to convert people and start trying to convert the poop from my butt into new poop, from your butt.

[@afterhourscinema782]

The biggest irony is while watching this video, I got a propaganda-I mean...an ad from 'The Epoch Times' 🤣

[@GTFO_0]

More Like China Unsensored guy.. Wait till he calls out this dude and says he is backed by china

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

Adding to the conclusion that you made, one could make an argument that the CCP being efficient at either crushing or co-opting potential sources of dissent against the regime has created a situation where most opposition to the regime, outside of intellectuals grumbling in their residences in exile, is done by people who are in some way insane or out there ideologically with Falun Gong being part of this broader trend.

[@zg_rq]

Yes, the Chinese Democracy Movement is a small group with a lot of scandals. The other political opponents are separatists and religious groups.

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

@@zg_rq, or outright neo-fascists in the case of Guo Wengui and whatever Liu Zhongjing advocates.

[@hemanthnair1290]

It's the cycle of repression. Crack down > opposition becomes more radicalized> use their extremism as justification for even more repression

[@zg_rq]

@@hemanthnair1290 The good thing is that most believers of Falun Gong in China have abandoned it.

[@jamarswope2341]

Perfect, been waiting on this since I found Part 1 and binged all your vids in that one day!

[@537monster]

I’d just like to note that lighting yourself on fire has a tendency to backfire every time.

[@johnalexander9288]

The monk in Vietnam self-immolation had real world benefits for the nationalists.

[@Thot_Patrol_USA]

i do believe i am on fire 🔥

[@openthinker6562]

@@johnalexander9288I’m sure he was making a pun with the word “backFIRE”

[@NeostormXLMAX]

this isn't true at all, it depends on the place the reason and the organization, here li just didn't give a shit, the whole movement was sponsored by the cia and bush had china in great relationships during his war on terror, thus bush wanted better relationships with china during the 2001 era after 9/11 so he shut li down on this

[@zg_rq]

@@NeostormXLMAX Where did you get that information? Is this speculation?

[@CorinnaAtHome]

Such quality content on a subject i havent seen done over and over. I'm excited to watch more videos.

[@automaticmattywhack1470]

I just found your channel and watched 5 videos and subscribed. Excellent work! To me, channels like this one are why KZbin should exist. Keep 'em coming!

[@wowokgone4319]

Now i understands why in Beijing Subway they always check any bottles with fluid inside.

[@Yourdadsnuts]

What crazy production values for such a small channel, keep it up! Also not going to lie, I had a good chuckle when Mr. Spectacles climbed out of the palmtrees 😂

[@symbelex]

Doubt you'll see this but i came across your channel when your Taiwan video appeared on my recommended about a week or 2 ago and have basically been binging your content, can't wait to see more so obviously i subscribed. Keep up the good work!!!

[@troygaspard6732]

A far cry from the Buddhist monks of Vietnam.

[@dragemort1972]

Yo this video is really high quality, keep it up! Im sure it'll blow up soon.

[@diogeneslantern18]

Your content is so, so good. Extremely polished and interesting.

[@ripwednesdayadams]

I love this channel. Just discovered it and I’ve been binging your videos ever since.

[@devcloutier]

Getting a Shen Yun ad while watching this video… hilarious.

[@willhebert576]

Great follow up video!!! Hopefully this blows up. And congrats on learning to blink :)

[@spectacles-dm]

took a lot of practice, but can't believe I never tried it til now. my eyes feel great 🥲

[@andrewbrain4821]

Amazing video. Keep up the great work

[@AlexandreAlezzia]

Excellent job. Thanks for posting. You are a genious! I loved this video.

[@korakys]

There are a lot of these "New Religious Movements" as they call them in Japan that sprung up in East Asia around the same time. They are all very similar in operation, except in democracies they seem to get away with it fairly easily. I was hoping this video was actually going to be about the Tibetans who set themselves on fire in China in protest, that's a very underexposed story. Sources would of course be a challenge, I'm not really sure of the magnitude of it but maybe a 100 have done this so far.

[@-haclong2366]

The reason that South Vietnamese monk was successful is because South Vietnam was a democracy with free press and free speech, Mainland China is an authoritarian dictatorship so martyrdom doesn't work as all the media will put a spin on it.

[@cuixue-rs3mi]

Yes, esp the Eastern Lightning aka The church of Almight God. They disguised themselves as Christian grps but they are actually a cult operate in the same way as Falun Gong. Any groups that encourage their followers to worship its founder/ human being is a satanic cult. CCP is evil, these cults are just the same.

[@AgustinLozada]

The China version of Moonies

[@nixen3141]

The Chinese Version of Aum Shirinkyo

[@low-energypolitics5677]

This is such a dense piece. Thanks for the explanation!

[@geeljire9247]

How can someone disown his own martyrs 🤦🏾‍♂, i feel bad for the people willing to die for a cause, choosing the wrong one.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Because Chinese people have zero empathy for others, and none for animals. The are droids that pursue only money.

[@zg_rq]

Because they will face more blacklash is they openly supported that way. And falun gong didn't only disown them, it claimed that they were government actors, armymen, prisoners, former falun gong practitioners, etc.

[@qwopiretyu]

Never put your life on the line for an idea. Even a good one. All life is worth more.

[@geeljire9247]

@@qwopiretyu It depends on the context doesn't it? most people have something they think is worth more than their own life.

[@geeljire9247]

@@zg_rqIf people died for my sake, i wouldn't care about backlash. Idk, i feel it's dishonourable to throw them under the bus, even if there are pragmatic reasons to do so.

[@peterkelly4873]

Seeing another video so soon after the last made my day!

[@spectacles-dm]

Savor it. The next one may take a minute...

[@philipmateo3816]

Gosh you are so underrated! Such high production value I expected to look at your subs and find it at least as popular as PBS or some other established channel like that, I really do hope people will find this gem of a channel!

[@seandawson5899]

The sound of crackling fire in the background made this into a horror video.

[@funghazi]

Subscribed, these videos are great!

[@thenormalberries6767]

I do not agree with being on fire

[@lisi9942]

Bro love your editing style

[@blanker1014]

I just discovered your videos like a week ago with your video on Taiwan’s democratization and I’ve been watching the new videos ever since. I appreciate the research and nuance you put into them. It’s a shame you don’t have more subscribers!

[@Nestor__Makhno]

Nice stuff hope to see you grow

[@gzell5556]

i still have no clue how this channel only has 42k subs, this production quality is of a channel over 100x its size

[@konstantinosnikolakakis8125]

You’ve just earned a subscriber!

[@blairimani]

It would be helpful to link the previous video in the description also 😊

[@tlowe9796]

"The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity" - Carlo M. Cipolla Law 1: Everyone always and inevitably underestimates the number of stupid people in circulation. Law 2: The probability that a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person. Law 3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or group of people when he or she does not benefit and may even suffer losses. Law 4: Non-stupid people always underestimate the destructive power of stupid individuals. Law 5: A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

[@os44881616]

Fantastic vid

[@BiggieBig_]

Such an underrated channel!!!!

[@henrimourant9855]

I literally got an ad from the Epoch Times while watching this video. Kinda surreal. Anyways excellent video. Your two videos on the topic are the best I have seen so far.

[@henrimourant9855]

​@@bogdanov2395They literally are dude

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

@@bogdanov2395 If their undying support of trump isn't obvious enough.

[@user-qo8ds9qp8h]

the immolation and lot of things was orchestred by the chinese regime here the true on the staged immolation

[@BorderOllie]

Amazing job guys. Sometimes I forget how small this channel is. It won't stay that way for long, I promise you that. Please keep making this amazing, important content. We need it. ❤ Also, props for bracing many of these comments.. I think I would go nuts within a few seconds, and I kinda am already. People are ridiculous.

[@ModernHistory4U]

Another great video with an amazingly interesting topic. Just out of curiosity, where were the beach scenes with you filmed? Looks like Southern California but couldn’t be sure 😅

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

Still, I primarily blame people who are foolish enough to believe the claptrap.

[@gaviswayze9696]

I respectfully disagree. People who want to extract something (like devotion or money) manipulate people in a way that they know can avoid triggering certain alarm bells in some people's heads. It's a facet of human nature that they take advantage of The same applies to scammers. They know how to hijack certain people's brains and use that to steal their money. Victim-blaming just avoids realizing that the core issue is the manipulation, and that just keeps people thinking that they'd never fall for anything like that. Sad to say, that mentality makes people even more vulnerable to buying BS like Falun Gong or a sob story from a "Nigerian Prince"

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

@@gaviswayze9696 In that case people who easily fall for scams shouldnt be able to freely spend their money or to vote.

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

When I first saw Falun Gong (via a KZbin advertisement years before) I had thought they were fighting against Chinese censorship, but now, I do not know what to be afraid of anymore, but they both gave me some bit of interest, thanks to this two-part video about Falun Gong.

[@DinoCism]

I wish our governments took as firm a stance on cults as China does. They cynically use "freedom of religion" to ruin lives for profit.

[@johnjones99124]

does it work falun gong thing for mental health

[@miniak9593]

@@johnjones99124 nope, theyre a cult

[@johnjones99124]

@@miniak9593 I don't care if it's cult or not unless I get mental peace

[@PKVeteran]

Uwest, the foundation behind it and the Buddhist faction from Taiwan was also sued for abusing free labor. May be worth another video. In the US they pay teachers. In Taiwan I am not sure. They have temple branches from California to Florida

[@ecocodex4431]

9:16 Someone needs to make a video looking at the history of this specific overlyused piece of royalty-free music

[@pingasbungus4517]

This Samarianesque graphic design is great. Check out more about Person Of Interest, it's a fantasy shows but some of visuals bear striking resemblence.

[@gaviswayze9696]

Just because of the KZbin crackdown, it might be worth linking to the part one video in the description to this one Great breakdown though!

[@HandyMan657]

Allegiance to science? Wow, in the States here they want us to swear allegiance to a sky fairy or a treasonous criminal. Crazy

[@TheCreditShifu]

What is the source of the quote "set yourself on fire" in the thumbnail? Looks like a fake quote to me.

[@zg_rq]

Hello, I think you are one of the Falun Dafa media people, so you probably know that this quote isn't true. This video has too much sensationalism. The reason for self-immolation is more complex, and Li Hongzhi didn't intentionally say anything like this.

[@TheCreditShifu]

Right, so it is a fake quote

[@zg_rq]

@@TheCreditShifu Yeah.

[@johnjones99124]

who is the teacher of li honzi

[@BotwanaBoi2011]

I had a shen Yun ad on this vid 😅

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Pretty much all Buddhists in the east consider homosexuality to be sinful, opposition to interracial marriage however, is unusual.

[@raquetdude]

The modern medicine, the aliens, the far right conspiracy theorist news paper that backs Trump… whole thing is so strange. He openly called for gays to be annihilated… Buddhists don’t like them ik but they don’t call for their destruction

[@artugert]

If you knew very many Falun Gong practitioners, you would laugh at the idea that they oppose interracial marriage. Interracial marriage is extremely common among Falun Gong practitioners!

[@zg_rq]

@@artugertYou are right. There is a lot of fake news about this topic. Americans have applied their electoral prejudice to Falun Gong, and have ignored what it really is.

[@zg_rq]

@@artugert Yes. Many Falun Gong practitioners are in interracial couples. Westerner activists who don't understand a lot about its beliefs made this false interpretation.

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@zg_rq Westerner activists ? What are you talking about?, The Falun Gong teachings are all translated into many different languages, totally understandable.

[@cxa24]

A foreign opponent so completely different from you that you cannot ascertain peace from hostility

[@Kiddio]

You should cover the opposite of this situation, you mentioned it slightly with Bouazizi but would love a more thorough video on the Arab Spring.

[@benckx8999]

8:24 I think it's in Brussels near the European Parliament (where a lot of protests end up)

[@koharumi1]

7:28 oh so that is where Shen Yun is from!!! It is always during winter that it is shown.

[@zg_rq]

The purpose of Shen Yun is to attract and convert more people to Falun Gong. The Falun Gong practitioners believe that they are saving people before the end of the world.

[@PeterLiuIsBeast]

One thing to note. The spinning wheel isn't an original concept. It is derived from the Buddhist/Hindu concept to dharma.

[@brandtlucasbrandt]

Oh wow, he made Shen Yun? I always wanted to see that lol. Maybe not so much anymore.

[@Ash-V]

I had heard of Falun Gong, bur I had no idea they were behind the epoch times

[@ethans6539]

-“it’ll be linked in the end card” - isn’t linked in end card Nice

[@Sayuri81554]

The laborer lost his balance and fell because his inner wheel began spinning too quickly. Just reaffirms that ignorance and education alike will latch on to self delusion to fill a void.

[@artugert]

No, nobody on earth believes that. He fell because he lost his balance.

[@mohamedabdukadir3271]

You deserve million subscribers, continue the great work.

[@zg_rq]

Hello sir, I would like to know where you find the footage at 11:44? Thanks

[@gloomcookie1709]

Ngl, his 'dont think about them or they'll have a stronger chance to possess you' is a darkly clever way of not having to explain the aliens to his followers.

[@noahwhitesell6956]

just saw the SY without knowing what it was....Holy moly, they outright say the things in the video. Its insane. I was literally sitting in the theatre thinking wow I'm watching a cult with really good dancers.

[@ecocodex4431]

10:13 I'm gay AND in an interracial relationship. Guess I am an alien now. I suppose that DOES explain my neurodivergencies tho... lol

[@ssnaut1871]

Hot black Gf?

[@haldir108]

Seeing the desperate effort to change the title and thumbnail on this video over the last few days has been entertaining.

[@julieeldridge8760]

I went to a Shen Yun performance a couple of years ago. This all makes a lot of sense if you've seen the production - very beautiful, but kind of "cheesy" in a production matter.

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

Very good

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

I've been to their meet-ups, and practiced their techniques. You got quite a few details about their beliefs wrong, but your historical facts are very interesting. I ultimately determined they were not for me but you really make them sound alot more crazy than they are. Their worship of the master is closer to the Buddhist worship of the dallai lamma than it is a typical cult leader. They are not without their wacky beliefs but the core tenant of their holy book is that you alone have the power within you to become better. All humans are sleeping gods. Not once was I ever told I needed to meet the master and could only improve through him. They preached the exercises he developed are all you need to cleanse your soul and in turn improve the quality of your life. Not a single member I met had even met the master before so hes really not as important to the majority of them as you make it out to be here.

[@alindiataylor5348]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences regarding Falun Gong. I read some things which states that Li Hongzhi was pretty much up to no good, I have purchased one of his books, but after some research, I am finding found out some disturbing things about him. However, what I have read in his book thus far - doesn’t spell cult or someone like Hitler. I will continue to read the book.

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

@@alindiataylor5348 There is an awful lot of propaganda from China about them but they don't make any of their beliefs a secret so its always seemed strange to me when people who dont listen to the source claim they know what the source is doing. Its very easy to take some of their wackier beliefs out of context but that doesn't change if their practices have an effect or not. Its certainly worth a read and the exercises are worth trying out if you are at all interested in Qi Gong but at the end of the day its still a modern sect made by a modern man who claims to possess ancient wisdom. They are based on Daoism which is both a religion and medicinal philosophy for longevity. Personally I have found if something has persisted for as long as the original daoist practices have then they must have been preserved for a reason so I looked for the source of all these ideas for my practice. I found anything created in the new age has too much influencing it which leads to all the misunderstandings organizations like FG face in the modern interconnected world. There is a reason the ancient masters isolated themselves on mountains and only ever passed their secrets onto a few disciples at a time. The more people inserting their point of view into something the muddier the truth that cannot be spoken becomes.

[@johnjones99124]

does it work for mental health

[@robotspaceninjas5784]

​@@johnjones99124 To be frank yes and no. If the teachings resonate with you then practicing it will absolutely help you but if it doesnt then you arent going to be addressing the source of your problem. This religion is technically a Daoist sect which is the oldest Chinese religious philosophy on health. To the Daoists, mental and physical health are one and the same. What you experience as thoughts and emotions are actually your various organ systems trying to talk to you and ask for your help. Things like anxiety and depression are your bodies way of telling you something is wrong with either your environment, your diet, or your activity level. If you eat well and exercise regularly but still suffer then you might be getting poisoned by something in your environment like mold or industrial chemicals. If you dont eat well or move well then those are the best areas to start with. Falun Gong in its most simplest form is an exercise program that involves long periods of standing still and doing only breathing exercises. I had mental health issues and struggled to do such simple tasks for long periods of time but I was able to use the Daoist philosophy to solve the source of my mental health issues by cultivating my bodies physical health. I eat only nutrient dense food and as little as I can tolerate. I do very low stress exercise daily with the purpose of improving my mobility and flexibility, and I have spent alot of time and money researching and addressing the poison's in my environment I cant escape from. My advice would be to just study all things associated with Daoism and start learning how to train internal martial arts systems like Bagua and Xing Yi. These have been some of my favorite forms of cultivation exercise. Tai chi is a good place to start too but it got a little boring for me. Just remember dont give up there is a solution to your problems and you are the only one who can uncover it. Good Luck Bro!!!

[@johnjones99124]

thanks for sharing your knowledge . just been 2 weeks since am practicing, hope it works for me ,God blees bro .

[@ScruPiaN]

Nice ❤ KC painting. KC native?

[@joedi]

Guess it's like the chinese scientology (not literally just cult like)

[@The_Real_Grand_Nagus]

Off topic, but where are you presenting from at 14:19? Nice looking place.

[@CarsonSIsaac]

When you get an Epoch Times commercial in the middle of this video…

[@YXUHUNTER]

Fantastic work! Exceptional channel! Thank you!

[@LadyGTarot]

Oh falun dafa - it sounds good on the surface but as one looks into the deeper teachings it goes really off into dark areas. The movements draw people and then as they get more involved it gets very strange a bit like scientology. Sounds good on the surface but the deeper one goes into it the more bizzarre it becomes.

[@artugert]

Dark areas? What about Falun Gong could possibly be construed as dark?

[@LadyGTarot]

@@artugert How about it's a cult ! And when you get into the deeper teachings it really goes off into crazy areas. Read the book.

[@artugert]

@@LadyGTarot I'm very familiar with the book. Just curious what you found crazy about it.

[@johnjones99124]

I am new to this been 1 month practicing it just to fight depression anxiety, I don't care its cult or not

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@johnjones99124 Keep reading and practicing, it is really great, I have been practicing for 18 years, helped my depression and anxiety, which country are you from?

[@Whisk3yKnight]

I thought for sure this was gonna be on the Jasmine Revolution/Arab Revolt, with like some statement on the current state of Tunisia😂😂

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

Ahem. Fire burning Darwin Award achieved.

[@jiachengwu4185]

Gosh, your aloof coldness sends a shrivel down my spine.

[@GamerFavor]

Please explain the fire extinguishers at the square at the time of the self-immolations. I just don’t understand their presence.

[@zg_rq]

Police patrol cars in Tiananmen are equipped with fire extinguishers. When the self-immolation happened, a police patrol car drove through Tiananmen square (I found a video of it). Some Falun Gong media claimed that there were fire extinguishers stored nearby, but there is no evidence to prove it, and I don't believe it because Falun Gong media made a lot of rumors in all directions after the incident.

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

Because it was a staged immolation for consumption by the masses to justify the persecution of Falun Gong, they were not Falun Gong practitioners, the teachings of Falun Gong prohibit killing and suicide

[@zg_rq]

@@nicholasmclaughlin8638 The self-immolators did not intend to kill themselves. The teachings of Falun Gong are intended to be interpreted according to one's level of "enlightment". From another perspective, In his lecture in Changchun 1998, Li Hongzhi stated that fire can't destroy the real body of people, therefore self-immolation possibly isn't suicide

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@zg_rq Once again it was staged by the CCP, please explain why the little girl who supposedly was burnt and had a tracheotomy was able to sing for the reporters in the hospital? Regarding the lecture in Changchun, it has no relevance because those were not Falun Gong practitioners, your understanding is totally wrong, Master Li is talk about the fires of a cremation furnace can’t destroy the atom and electrons of a person, only the cells are sloughed off, it’s in regards to reincarnation, and that the soul is eternal, and goes from life to life. Any genuine Falun Gong practitioner, would not kill themselves

[@zg_rq]

@@nicholasmclaughlin8638 The Falun Gong website Minghui never showed a segment of CCTV where she sang. But she did talk to reporters. It is possible to talk with a Passy-Muir valve after tracheotomy. It's used for patients that had tracheotomy. Concerning the question of the sterility of the environment, how communications between burn patients and others are handled depends on the hospital's guidelines. There are other cases where people directly come into the patient room without that protection, such as the september 11th attack's burn victims. We can not assume that they are not Falun Gong practitioners unless they did not behave according to the teachings of Falun Dafa. The people involved in the incident did not intend to commit suicide, so whether suicide is forbidden or not does not give a conclusion to this question. And your interpretation of the segment of the lecture in Changchun is yours only. Only Minghui can decide the official interpretation of these teachings. Back then, Minghui didn't talk about these types of stuff yet, so it is possible that some people believed that burning was a good thing. If you search for the article titled "Too Hot to Handle" by the TIME magazine, you will find that they interviewed Falun Gong practitioners who agree with these self-immolators.

[@GaryPansey]

Falun Gong is qigong exercises, not a cult... no money required to learn....come and go as you please.

[@cadenibz]

What about the aliens lil bro💀💀

[@zg_rq]

False. It has beliefs, organization, and Li Hongzhi warned that disciples would be destroyed layer by layer if they quit their mission of helping him rectifying the Fa. (not the exact words).

[@nicholasmclaughlin8638]

@@zg_rq Not exact words, because Li Hongzhi did not say that

[@zg_rq]

@@nicholasmclaughlin8638 Apologies. I did not find him explicitly saying that the complete extinction of body and soul would happen, but a lot of people believe in that, since leaving Falun Dafa is interference in the salvation of sentient beings. (To be clear, this is only an interpretation by Falun Gong practitioners.) The following quotation has a similar message but it doesn't talk about the extinction of body and soul: "when a being can obtain the Fa today in history, it’s no ordinary thing-he’s so fortunate! But as soon as he loses the Fa, do you know what he faces? It’s really horrific, because when he fails to fulfill the major responsibilities and the huge missions that were bestowed upon him, then, accordingly, that’s like the inverse of a being’s Consummation, and he will truly have to enter the gate of no-life." ("Fa Teaching Given at the 2004 Chicago Fa Conference", Collected Teachings Given Around the World Volume IV) (What happens in the Gate of no life: "But after those who have especially huge sins go to hell they are directly destroyed and sent to the Endless Hell, and once someone enters the gate of no-life he can never live again." (Teachings Given on Lantern Festival Day, 2003)) In the new article "Cultivation in Dafa Is Serious", the contract signed with lives might reinforce the effect of this message.

[@scum-scum]

> "While in other times and places self-immolation may be a successful catalyst for political change, [...]" Do you have one in mind? Cause the list of political self-immolations is dozens and dozens of entries long, and i think people may or may not know of, like, one? And that one yielded zero change for their cause, as far as i'm aware. Maybe some marginal "awareness" bump, but the fate of the cause would have gone about the same with and without the immolation...

[@spectacles-dm]

Arab spring

[@scum-scum]

​@@spectacles-dm , that was a very interesting read, thank you for the heads-up!

[@et-fb8dq]

Funny that I got an epoch times ad for this video talking about the “truth of Jan 6”

[@newperve]

I had no idea that they were like this. I had assumed they were generally benign because the CCP hated them. Should have known the Hitler/Stalin Doctrine applies (just because Stalin/Hitler hates hem doesn't mean they're not Hitler/Stalin).

[@purelotusheart]

Trust your own first impression because its the view that is correct.

[@artugert]

You believe everything you see in a random KZbin video? As someone very familiar with the subject matter, the information in this video is laughably incorrect. Do your own research.

[@NoVuS00]

So a fight between 2 cults basically

[@whatthepick]

Well oddly enough cultivation is still a popular genre

[@leGUIGUI]

One thing that bother me in your video is, isn't it a good thing he disowned the followers who immolated themselves? Isn't that the most appropriate reaction, the best guarantee that others won't follow suit? What should he have done? Honor them? Wouldn't that have caused more to do so? Otherwise, great video, very informative.

[@zg_rq]

Yes, but they claimed that the self immolation was staged. the evidence is fake. for example, they claimed that a heavy black object hit one of the self-immolators, therefore she was not burned, but hit to death, but the black object was thrown by the self-immolator herself, and it was probably a flying piece of cloth

[@digitalphoenix72]

If really appreciate sources and citations, because any information provided by any institution will have its own bias. I wont schill for ground, but its a good example of why each and every piece of information, where it was acquired, and what the biases and agendas are of the publications you're referencing, and just some examples of things that were glossed over rather than elaborated. The piece definitely seems to paint the CCP with some very rose to tinted glasses, and omits other very important details that give context and elaborate on just exactly what the CCP did to these people, or the treatment of anyone.who even shed light on what atrocities a lot of these people underwent and continue to do so because they do some whacky meditation and refuse to submit their soul to the state. There's really just a lot more nuance to this than whats stated in the video

[@alejandrobaquero-lima6943]

I used to subscribe to The Epoch Times and my parents saw Shen Yun. Even though I am a conservative, some of the stories published in the paper were just strange and seemed like outright lies/propaganda. Also, I heard from my parents that the play was alright but nothing special. It was actually an unstructured performance. Knowing all of this, I'm glad that I have subscribed only to the WSJ and it seems that my parents have forgotten about the play and anything else related to it for a few years now. Thanks for this insightful video. I should do my own research on this topic.

[@zg_rq]

The main reason why they support conservatives is just because they think conservatives will help them fulfill their apocalyptic spiritual mission. They are like opportunists. In 2016, they supported Xi Jinping (Chinese president) because some believers thought he would allow Falun Gong in China again.