This Is Exactly Why I'm an Atheist

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

To the atheists watching, what made you become an atheist? To the theists watching, what would it take for you to become one? Sorry for not meme-ing this week. I didn't want this to be longer than it needed to be. The memes will return in the next video!

[@melissamauk3530]

I went to Boise Bible College and got to see all the flaws in Christian apologetics up close. Then I started investigating evolution and it all was downhill from there. What Christian college did you go to?

[@RemixedVoice]

Oh, just the usual; the church telling me that my beloved Athiest family members will burn in hell for eternity, my flamboyant bisexuality, my adoration for truth, the vast wealth of scientific knowledge available for free on the internet, etc.

[@AgentMattox]

The evid3nce3 series on KZbin is the main thing that helped me through the transition. It really hit me hard.

[@user-lw5oc1tt8k]

Became an atheist when I realised harry potter books are just man made stories

[@drewjanus4643]

Genetically Modified Skeptic I've always been atheist/agnostic, when I was little I hated the idea of church and constantly asked my dad and mom why I had to go, my dad would tell me that I didn't have to go if I could tell him the meaning of life, as I was 7 I couldn't, I was never keen on the idea that God existed in fact I constantly saw contradicts, like how the devil was supposed to be the worst thing in the universe but happen to only kill 6 people and punished bad people while god killed LITERALLY EVERYONE More than a couple times all because he was mad or though people were sinning, so I just didn't believe. I've never believed just like santa I was always skeptical of their existence.

[@elzearcontelly2651]

When my cousin was little, my aunt finally told him Santa wasn't real. He then asked if Jesus was a lie too.

[@Illfigureoutanamelater]

When my parents told me that they had lied about santa, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny, I then asked "What about God?"

[@MrMeow-iq7kq]

heh... its all from the same religion... so I did the same thing. I kept silent about it tho and just refused to go to church with my grandparents anymore.

[@tiannabusby8382]

My parents never did satan clause for this exact reason. They didn't want me to realize the similarities between Santa and god and conclude there was no god. The interesting thing is that they realized Santa and god had alot in common but they still didn't ever consider gods possible nonexistence themselves.

[@MrMeow-iq7kq]

@@tiannabusby8382 santa and the easter bunny may be just as fake as god... but they are still better. Seems like Christians choose the wrong ones to worship! lol

[@anonymousjohnson976]

@@tiannabusby8382 : I know, right. Also, Santa and god have the same song even, the one that goes "he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake."

[@thejesuschrist]

Excellent video Drew! Keep it up!

[@ElCampeador99]

Jesus Christ it's Jesus Christ!!!

[@maxbrennan6770]

Well that’s ironic

[@tvremote9394]

If the actual Jesus was cool enough to not get angry at someone for not thinking he's God, maybe Christianity wouldn't be so toxic as it is right now

[@Dendroapsis]

He is real! (Good luck with your custody case).

[@rabix1165]

Jesus says the n word

[@NaturesCompendium]

For me it was a combination of wanting to become a better Muslim while seeking understanding about the universe. It ultimately boiled down to when I was 16, and I asked myself "if I wasn't born a Muslim would I have become one?" And of course, the answer was no.

[@justarandomguy-_-9095]

Hello my brother

[@mabatch3769]

Nature's Compendium, That's some very introspective and honest reasoning. I wish more people were like you. My path was somewhat similar. When I finally asked myself why do I believe, I realized I didn't have a rational answer. When I went looking for an answer I found out I was wrong all along.

[@RonLarhz]

You r not BORN a muslim. You can be born brown/yellow/albino;you can be born male/female/intersex; but you cant be born a muslim. You are, however, born INTO muslim family/culture.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Very well said. Now thats a proper "epiphany". Same happened to me with catholisism.

[@mabatch3769]

THE PEOPLE SING, May I ask what led you to the belief that an infinite intelligence is even possible, let alone actually exists in reality?

[@raxino774]

I'm an ex-Muslim from Bangladesh. I never talk openly about my beliefs because people here are very hostile towards others' beliefs. In the past, Islamic extremists killed many atheists who used to write and question the existence of God. Nothing has changed; even now, those who are simply atheists are the most trolled and hated on the internet. I used to be deeply religious and studied in a Madrasah, so I know the kind of hateful image they have of atheists. I will never go public about it

[@Toro2005]

I can feel u

[@MrMarco855]

On the contrary, many/most atheists are very mean spirited. Read the comments here, you'll see.

[@C_Becker]

So you are an atheist? Am I right?

[@spider-man9118]

We must stay focused, brothers. We must stay focused. Brothers, what have we done. look at us. look at what we've become. This isn't right. we're wasting time going on about girls and sus drawings that don't give a f*ck about us. What is the point of lust? Why do we do this? This doesn't fix our problems, doesn't make the stress and pain go away. Ayo, I don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events. *IF* anyone is interested, read on *NOTE:* I can’t prove God to you. It all comes down to your choice to put your trust in Jesus Christ. That’s all faith is-TRUST. Unfortunately in these recent years, science and “religion” (as we know them today) have bastardized each other and themselves. Point is, faith is trusting in Jesus. It’s not a blind jump into what non-believers call nothingness. Billy Graham said something reminiscent of that. I have no power over you. I can only tell you, but I can’t force you. (I mean, we’re conversing online lol. I’m not at your location… yet) james 4:8 “Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.” hebrews 11:6 “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.” Check out “HolyLandSite, Cold-Case Christianity, Delafé Testimonies.” There may be more, but those are the ones I know of. repent to God, friends. We must stay focused, brothers, on what really matters. I'm only 17, but I'm telling you, in the words of johnny cash, "sooner or later God will cut you down." I don’t want you to suffer like I did/do. *YOU WILL LOSE ALMOST EVERYTHING IMPORTANT TO YOU! PLEASE, FOR YOUR SAKES, REPENT AND TURN TO JESUS! SAVE YOURSELVES FROM YOURSELVES! It’s a pit you *CAN NOT* get out of. *AGAIN, I DON’T WANT YOU TO SUFFER LIKE I DID/DO! I LOVE AND CARE FOR YOU TO TELL YOU THIS!* He is, in the words of Skillet, "better than drugs." He is also *WAY* better than lust. love is greater than lust. You'll find out that this is true. love may hurt, and same for lust, but lust will keep you chained down, eventually killing you mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and possibly physically. AGAIN, I DON’T WANT YOU TO SUFFER LIKE I DID/DO! hell was never meant for us, my fellow youtube user. it was for the devil and his squad, and God gave us the Way out of there since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God knew we were wack, but He decided He was still come down and help us, despite our unfaithfulness. most relationships (like friendships, romantic relationships) aren't like this. Very few, but not a whole lot. religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (see james 1:27) also, we have various types of evidence that backs up the Bible. Here's one example: Scientists have discovered that the earth "skipped" a day. The Bible explains how that happened. In the book of Joshua, Joshua asked the sun to stop so he and the Israelites could defeat their enemies. Then in 2 Kings, King Hezekiah learned he was dying, and pleaded to God to not let him die. God sent a prophet to king hezekiah who said hezekiah would live. Hezekiah wanted a sign, and that would be for the sun to defy the law of inertia and go back 10 degrees. NASA confirmed it and did the math (look it up for more info). We also found Noah’s Ark hanging out in turkey, along with anchor stones marked with crosses signifying that it’s a revered place, along with altars and many other things. Look it up, it’s good stuff (HolyLandSite). more evidence for the Bible concerning cosmology and divine revelation in job 26:7, proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22 (read on) The idea that the earth was round can be dated back to 600 BC in Greece. It was more widely accepted around the 3rd century (300 BC-201 BC) Note: time was “labeled” differently back then. for example, year 3000, year 420, year 69, year 0, year 1, year 2… and so on. Job 26:7: “. . .He [God] hangs the earth on nothing” The book of Job was supposedly written at 2100 BC. Proverbs 8:27: “. . .when He drew a circle on the face of the deep. . .” Proverbs was possibly written between 970 and 686 BC Isaiah 40:22: “it is He who sits above the circles of the earth. . .” Isaiah was written between 739 and 680 BC. This one doesn’t pertain to cosmology, but it refers to divine revelation nonetheless. Isaiah 11:15 “The Lord will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that anyone can cross over in sandals.” Revelation 16:12 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.” How did they know about this? You tell me, my fellow Zoomerz. The Holy Spirit exists. I was suicidal for 9-ish months, but then I read John 3:16, and poof- the big sad went away in one night. Also, look up John Gabbana's (boonk gang) testimony. Dude did a lot of wacky stuff. He's changed now. Check out “Delafé Testimonies.” They got some good stuff as well *YOU CANNOT DENY THE WORK GOD DOES IN PEOPLE’S LIVES* also, the soul exists. someone i know (i won't say who- privacy reasons) saw their soul leaving their body. like pulling off a band-aid, except it doesn't hurt. There are also non-Christian sources who have confirmed the existence and divinity of Jesus, some of which were hostile towards Christianity, such as: Thallus (52 AD), who said Jesus lived, was crucified, and confirmed the darkness and earthquake that followed Christ’s crucifixion; Tacitus (56-120 AD), who called the followers of Christ Christians, confirmed that Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate’s command Talmud (400-700 AD), confirmed that the disciples were martyred for their faith, and confirmed Jesus was executed the day before the Passover, and said Jesus had “magical” powers Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD), who said that the Christians thought Jesus was/is God in the Flesh (God the Son) Phlegon (80-140 AD), who said Jesus had the ability to predict the future, and confirmed that Jesus was crucified during Caesar’s reign, confirmed Jesus rose from the dead, and confirmed He showed His wounds to confirm He was crucified. Celcus (175 AD), who said Jesus was born of a virgin, said His father is a carpenter, and confirmed Jesus had miraculous powers (See cold-case Christianity for more details) Here’s the physical evidence of Jesus and His Resurrection: 1) No persecution would have started if He hadn’t come back (the disciples thought Jesus would never resurrect) 2) The Roman soldiers would have paid with their lives if they failed at their jobs 3) there was a 2-4 ton rock that 11-12 guys would have to move (they didn’t have any help. Everyone said “crucify Him”) major L to those opposed to Jesus 4) there was a Roman seal which was a metal pin that sealed the tomb stone 5) Stealing the Jesus’s body isn’t something the disciples would do (besides Judas. Although he hung himself after feeling remorse for betraying Jesus). 6) the disciples wouldn’t die for what they knew would be a lie. (The lie being Jesus never made the ultimate comeback) faith and reason, people hit me up to learn more about how science proves the Bible or just about God in general

[@pattiokai7223]

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[@chamicels]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia not possessed by demons...that's what started my questioning ...

[@1221-o7e]

@Semitex they were just being logical. Belief is ten steps behind actual proof

[@Themajormistro]

I'm glad your country is still living in the stone Ages as apes and idiots

[@Eclipse-1-z40]

@Semitex I mean your ultimately no better if all you do is insult the same exact person the way they did you, that makes you the same as them mate

[@seanmuir2862]

@Semitex Your country of origin isn't your race.

[@photonrayswaves]

And mental hospitals are full of people tortured by the guilt religions pile on them for being sinners but are really normal folks who are taught by religion they are possessed by demons.

[@agnosticknight9657]

I tried to educate myself about Islam to debate atheists and ended up disbelieving in it

[@grahvis]

When I was in my early teens, I looked at the various aspects of Christianity and bit by bit, came to realise how little sense any of it made, it was so contradictory.

[@downofdead12]

@@grahvis Can you give an example?

[@grahvis]

@@downofdead12 The so called 'original sin', obviously purpose designed to happen, it was needed for the religion so a person can never say they have not sinned. The supposed 'judgment day', a god who is omniscient already knows before a person is born, exactly what they will do every moment of their life, no judgment needed. Absolutely no need for a Jesus to have been crucified so man could be 'forgiven', another purely invented story twisted to suit the narrative.

[@bleirdo_dude]

Theists are thought addicts via the Holy Dopamine Ghost (Dopamine Reward System). Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars. Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16, or the Quran. The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are just as addictive as drugs): kzbin.info/aero/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie "Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/ "Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music, report researchers at theUniversity of Utah School of Medicine. The findings will be published Nov. 29 in the journalSocial Neuroscience." unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/

[@liamsmith331]

@Johan Strydom why not the book of mormon?

[@PunnamarajVinayakTejas]

I recently accidentally came out to my mother and she went all "I don't know where I went wrong in raising you, you're such a good child otherwise". She then proceeded to tell me why I was wrong because I didn't listen to the experts' opinions on their personal experiences. That said, my family is Hindu, so it's more of "you can still live a life without god, but you need god in your darkest moments" than "you'll burn in hell".

[@nirair9650]

Why , my family is also Hindu. My parents always force me to come to temples and pray. I always respected the Hindu mythologies since they are very interesting, but i never believed in them , not even once in my life. I never respected the religious practices, however , since they deemed me impure and not god's favorite every month when i menstruated. I have always been open about my beliefs though, and my parents and especially my grandparents are extremely unhappy with it haha. That being said, they can't force me. I'm no lesser than anyone else when I'm on a period or because I'm a girl (we know our religion, its not too nice to the girls) .

[@robertbraganza6138]

I do not know much about the Hindu religion or its philosophies, but I have a question for you: Are there groups within this particular Indian religion that believe in the existence of a supreme being that created the universe or reality as a we know it (or is this theological concept foreign to Hinduism).

[@PunnamarajVinayakTejas]

@@nirair9650 Yes, I always found the stigma against women on their period really odd. On the one hand, everyone likes to say "we have so many goddesses, we respect women", and on the other hand...

[@PunnamarajVinayakTejas]

@@robertbraganza6138 I think the main concept in Hinduism is that Brahma created all other gods as well as the universe. There are some groups that interpret this as "the entire universe we are living in is Brahma's imagination".

[@justzekebuildingasandcastl4265]

Isn't there any concept of hell in Hinduism?

[@MattGray35]

I was a baptist too. Eventually I got curious about Christianity/atheist debates. Then I started to question things. And I did lot's research and atheism stood it's ground very well. When I told my best friend (Baptist preacher's kid) about my doubts, he told me I was going to hell. When I told my dad about my beliefs, he said that I WILL be a baptist christian. He made it crystal clear that as long as I'm under HIS roof, I am required to believe and trust baptist christianity. I've been called "lowest of scum", "useless life", and "brainwash and confused". So I feel you man. Keep up the great content!! 😃

[@colepriceguitar1153]

I’m very sorry about how you were treated. What did you question?

[@MattGray35]

@@colepriceguitar1153 Hey. My questions. 1: What's up with the LBGTQ+ community? And why are they wrong? I tried to think of a reason besides the bible. I did a lot of thinking and came up with the following concussion. I support them, but I don't support them spreading it to kids. 2: Why would God send anyone to hell? If he loves us and paid for all of our sins, wouldn't we all go to heaven? And if not, why hell? He could create an alternative place for "non believers" that would be out of his presence and not be eternal torture. No one deserves eternal damnation. That even includes the angry short mustache jew killer. 3: Why did he HAVE to die on a cross? Did he not have enough power to not simply forgive us? That would be unfair to god, but not impossible. And why a cross? 4: Why is there no evidence of bible events in the world? There isn't. No flood, no Hebrews in the wilderness for 40 years, and no cross. To name a few. 5: Why didn't he help me understand the bible and help me love him when I prayed for it constantly? He wasn't there. These are just a couple of the main questions I had. I have since figured out all of my questions and have a firm new belief.

[@noname-by3qz]

I'm really sorry and all I can say is what I tell myself. If they thought I was worthless, I must be special because they are wrong about everything. They're never happy no matter how many times a week you go to church anyway. My brother, 11 yrs older, started beating me when I was no older than 2. He kept it up till he was 18 and started going to Bible College. Of course he became a missionary and pastor till he got fired and got a job as a suit salesman. He still admits no wrongdoing at almost 80 yrs old.

[@colepriceguitar1153]

@@noname-by3qz Then he is not a true Christian. Don't let him paint the wrong view of Christianity. I know someone who cheated on his wife when he was a preacher and won't admit wrongdoing, he is not a Christian.

[@noname-by3qz]

@@colepriceguitar1153 I got my view from the Bible. A few Christian women I've known were good, caring people. I think they were just born that way. The Bible is just too messed up. Christianity was forced on people for 1,600 years. Most claim it because it's still being forced. So most just take the part which says they are better and special and run with it.

[@dwhs8076]

After I got baptised, I challenged myself to study every atheist argument so that I can debunk all of them. Met Hitchens and Dawkins on KZbin. Became atheist 6 months later...

[@petergostelow]

I saw their videos, and didn't think much of their content. Maybe you need to train more in the art of moral warefare before rushing out and getting killed. Christianity isn't about debunking anything, its about loving your neighbour as you love yourself. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. (Mat 6:33) Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Mat 6:19-21) For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Rom 14:17)

[@gabrielaiell0]

is atheist a belief?

[@Ryedo40]

@@weeboo Hate to correct you on this, but no. It doesn't mean not belonging to a religion; there are, after all, religions out there that are considered atheistic. People can also believe in the existence of a god while not being religious. The term atheist is simply a descriptive of a person who has an absence of belief in the existence of god or gods.

[@dwhs8076]

@@petergostelow to you Christianity is about loving your neighbour and stuff, but that can be done without being a Christian. I've seen how certain Christians persecute the LGBT community, I'm not impressed... Seems like loving your neighbour is a conditional thing for some Christians. You can be good with or without religion

[@petergostelow]

@@dwhs8076 So, was it Dawkins and Hitchens that changed your mind, or Christians doing things you disapprove of? Debunking atheist arguments, or succumbing to them? I reread your first post and saw nothing about Christian behaviour in it. So, what do you think you're doing by introducing it now? And no, you can't do good without religion because nothing else defines any act as good or bad. The knowledge of good and evil is distinct from the knowledge of the universe.

[@dustinclouse6888]

Food for thought. If I had magical powers and I created and entire species of "people" and I said to them to either worship me or burn forever, wouldn't most people agree that's a dick move?

[@brenthernandez6910]

Thats where you are literally beyond wrong. God didn't create us to just worship him or burn in hell if we don't. He gave us the blessing of life. He wanted us to live. Are you going to go after your father and tell him "im not going to respect you" simply because you feel like it? Or are you going to respect him because, oh I dont know HE FLIPPIN MADE YOU. Unless you have daddy issues and in that case your dads in sin as well and then maybe you don't respect him. But overall I get your false point

[@brenthernandez6910]

@@nogoodgod4915 You have a pathetic, ill-equipped, and unsubstantiated claim. To start you already butchered why he sends a soul to hell. He doesn't send you to hell if you weren't baptized, stop talking out your ass when you haven't read a word of scripture that explains why you are condemned. Your second assinine comment states that we suffer at the hands of god and that he is responsible for starvation, disease, tornadoes, and earthquakes. To break it to you, god not only knew that we we're going to suffer on earth, he made us despite the suffering we would endure on earth. He gave us the immense blessing of life despite the evil we would inevitably do to ourselves, he didn't use our sinful, despicable nature as a justification to leave us out of the universe. He used our infinitely precious, truly good nature as an justification to bless us with life, and free will DESPITE the suffering we would endure at our OWN hands on earth. Because to him the good of mankind far outweighed the bad of mankind, and that was all the justification he needed to give EVERYONE a chance at life and give EVERYONE an chance to experience true good. Im happy he did, because if he didn't bless us with consciousness, free will, and life; that would mean he let our sinful nature ruin our chance at life as a whole, and that is not good. So no not A, god definitely created us, to say we came from nothing is immensely hollow and has been disregarded many times. If god did what you wanted him to do and stop a tornado, then there would be no end, why shouldn't he just grant every humans best intentioned wish, do what every man thinks is best. He's a genie after all, wait no he's not. Maybe its C not his job to take orders from you. Maybe its D he's not evil because despite all the sin he knew you would commit against his name he animated you anyways. Does god hear a thank you? Does he hear any gratitude for creating you despite the despicable, wicked, and sinful things you would do? NO he made you anyways because he loves you! Good day! May god be with you!

[@RillianGrant]

@@brenthernandez6910 Is it wrong that I view myself as better and more moral than God?

[@brenthernandez6910]

@@RillianGrant Before anything, establish what you mean by "god". My definition of god is as follows, the true, real, authentic, creator of this reality. The supernatural phenomena that powers the fabric of this reality, whoever or whatever it is, is my god. What is your definition of god? Because in light of my definition of god, when you say "is it wrong that I view myself as better and more moral than god?" my answer is yes, it is very wrong to say you know more than your god that created you. To say that you have better moral judgment than god is also so ridiculously arrogant. If you say you know more than your true creator, the one that gave you consciousness and life, I won't even argue it to be honest. At a minimum you have to understand that without an doubt, there is something greater than you. Something literally governing the fabric of reality itself.

[@RillianGrant]

@@brenthernandez6910 If I created a sentient AI could it be more moral and intelligent than me?

[@AGDinCA]

Final nail in the coffin for me was getting to know a girl from India in one of my freshman college classes. We became friends right away and always had a great laugh together. She was the first friend I'd ever had that belonged to another religion. It became crystal clear to me that her religion was a product of her environment, and was therefore suspect. I felt sorry for her to be a believer in the wrong religion. It didn't take too long before I realized my own hypocrisy. I, too, was a product of my environment. It dawned on me that if one's religion was determined primarily by the location of their birth or upbringing, then it couldn't be an absolute truth. And my world was shattered. Thankfully...

[@Jw-un8oh]

@Donald Trump Donald gets it right again

[@Luemm3l]

Donald trump didn't even understand the comment... Why am I not surprised

[@AGDinCA]

@Donald Trump LOL! I'm not sure if I would have called her cute, necessarily. I am a girl, too, and didn't look at her like that. She was just a great friend - someone to laugh with while studying Econ. Either way, I believe you misstated my point on purpose. Did you understand what I was saying? If there is some part of my position that you don't agree with, I'd love to hear exactly why. To be clear, I felt if your religion was largely dictated by where you grew up, or who you were raised by, then how could any of the religions be objectively true? I had wrestled with doubt for quite some time prior to this, but I had held on, steadfast in my conviction. However, thinking about objective truth is what finally caused me to break. Hopefully, now that I've clearly restated my position, I would love to hear your thoughts. 😊

[@AGDinCA]

@@Jw-un8oh Does he? In what way?

[@AGDinCA]

@Johan Strydom I see. Please help me understand how the philosophy of predestination can bolster the Christian position (as far as I know, it is a Christian-only thing, but I could be wrong)? If she and I were both completely devout, convinced that each of us had the correct version, and we came to those beliefs solely due to the family into which we were born, how can either religion (or any of the other ones) be proven to be objectively true?

[@ronitsrivastava377]

Maybe I am wrong but I feel people believing in God get angrier than atheists.

[@chair547]

Remember that your perspective on your in group is a fairly complete one but your perspective on the out-group is highly skewed towards adversarial interactions

[@ronitsrivastava377]

@@chair547 I was a Hindu like two months ago and became Atheist even before coming to this or any other such channel s. Maybe Atheists are less in number or something because I have seen more cases of violence in the name of religion than in the name of God existing or not.

[@WorldLove-fk8tl]

If you want proof of the existence of Allah, there are many, but the person who denies stubbornly prefers to deny. There is no compulsion, everyone should do what they want. Those who serve Allah will go to heaven in endless blessings.

[@ronitsrivastava377]

@@WorldLove-fk8tl Except there is a compulsion. Whoever doesn't believe in him is tortured for eternity, right? Even if that person follows the highest standard of morality, belief is what mainly makes a difference, right?

[@nathanielmashraki2925]

​@@WorldLove-fk8tllol.....

[@markmark63]

I was never a theist, but I was taken to a Sunday school and only lasted one lesson. I was aged 6, and they were teaching us the story of Noah and the flood. I kept asking about the fish, because my father kept aquarium fish at the time. He had several tanks of different types, and had graphically described the consequences of mixing them up - especially the salt & fresh water fish. I knew that (other than a few special species), most fish die quickly if the water isn't right. I also wanted to know how they kept the water apart, and some of the water cold, and some water warm - I knew this was important. But nobody could answer me, and I was asked not to return.

[@lottieplaysnintendo]

Your story is hilarious! Bummed them out that’s for sure, I think you asked too many questions they could not answer

[@devin645]

The saddest part of the story is that a true christian focuses more on helping people in need rather than trying to prove their ideology. On top of that asking you not to come back because you asked a few legit questions about fish is so anti christian behavior that reading this just hurts my soul.

[@rickc2102]

@@devin645 Defining a "true Christian"? While that definition might work for you ("My faith is defined by my actions, not my credo"), a lot of religious believers have to accept the credo in order to live the life. While I'd love if all the Christians lived and believed as you did, I've lived far too much of my life with the bootprint of Christianity on my neck to accept your statement as a factual one.

[@cocoabeanzwantstopuzzle]

THIS IS AMAZING

[@bigkirbyhj666]

@@devin645 Did you know also know, no true Scotsman has milk with their cereal?

[@pattiokai7223]

I had cancer which I overcame. People tell me I beat it with God's help. No my doctors and I beat it. But I can't say that or they'll get mad. I feel like a closeted atheist.

[@snaptrap5558]

I survived a brain hemorrhage, and my parents use it to guilt me for my lack of belief in Christianity. "How could you not believe in Jesus when He saved your life????"

[@pattiokai7223]

@@snaptrap5558 I'm so sorry. My cancer was actually brain cancer. Now I'm in a wheelchair and have a neurological movement disorder. I'm worse off than before my cancer. So I always think like did he help me? Because if he did, he screwed up.

[@snaptrap5558]

@@pattiokai7223 That's a really rough toss of the dice, dude. I think life means things in the same way everything else means things to us. The only meaning is what we give it ourselves.

[@mazerunner7640]

@@pattiokai7223 damn dude that’s rough, I wish you the best of luck. Is there any chance of recovery or at least getting somewhat better?

[@snaptrap5558]

@@josephinebcmpatrick9207 I'm pretty sure they had to go to medical school for that knowledge. Not a church.

[@Incandescentiron]

Your story illustrates the most important aspect of college, regardless of major, is helping us learn critical thinking. This is why some people think professors just brainwash their kids to be atheists, because they sure weren't atheists before they went to college.

[@efandmk3382]

People who don't know better, think that college teaches facts. What college actually does, it to teach you how to reason. That absolutely does NOT come naturally to most people. This is why a college graduate, regardless of major, earns nearly twice as much in his lifetime than his HS graduate counterpart.

[@damianedwards8827]

That doesn't make sense. God is simply the existence of Love. Everybody believes Love exists.

[@rlfs2853]

Lol college kids don’t think for themselves anymore. They’re all just pink haired non gender communists now

[@damianedwards8827]

@@rlfs2853 Right. Pink hair. the cause of all the world's problems. how will we stop this pink hair. haha. smh

[@bruh......2005]

@@damianedwards8827 just because love exists doesn't mean God exists

[@monicavalladares4356]

I appreciate how civil and respectful you are when talking about religious folks. Christians are my family, friends, and coworkers, and I know they’re not dummies. It’s nice to have some atheist content that doesn’t bash my loved ones

[@bulgarianreaper6587]

Idk what "atheist content" you've consumed, but unless you've gotten your atheist content from Reddit then I would get why you might feel skepticism

[@pendita66]

Christianity is not a religion. It's a relationship between you and a God who loves you dearly and sent his only begotten Son to die for your sins so that it will be made possible if you believe in him and make him your Lord and savior. Philippians 2:10-11 "By Myself I have sworn; truth has gone out from My mouth, a word that will not be revoked: Every knee will bow before Me, every tongue will swear allegiance."

[@Nadine-bx2dg]

I am an atheist in the middle east amongst a traditional muslim religious family. Yay me.

[@Emiliapocalypse]

That’s a tough spot to be in, stay strong. Wishing you well. ✌️

[@Nadine-bx2dg]

@@Emiliapocalypse thanks !

[@unknownbeing8222]

Me too! My family is super religious though

[@shouqh-x4u]

may i ask what made you leave

[@Nadine-bx2dg]

@@shouqh-x4u It’s a bit of a long story to get into here on youtube, but I was indoctrinated from a very young age. The reason why a lot of Muslims go down the salafist, extremist route or end up blindly defending the religion is because the upbringing and the teachings inflict fear a lot of the times, which is incredibly damaging to a child’s mental health and critical thinking skills. I wasn’t allowed to question and when I did I would get shunned and humiliated because Allah hates disbelievers and Allah burns people that doubt or question his existence, I wasn’t allowed to make mistakes because Allah is breathing down my neck and watching my every move, waiting to burn me in hell for not wanting to dress modestly or for kissing a boy I like or for sipping a glass of wine. It was just incredibly draining for me to keep trying to justify all the emotional abuse, or to justify to myself that my community was not mistreating me by giving me less rights in so many different areas( custody rights, inheritance rights, divorce rights, etc.) , and that Allah intended for it to be that way for some secret reason that no one seemed to be able to explain. I guess deep down I always knew I was lying to myself. For an ideology to be the right one it shouldn’t require you to put yourself through that much mental gymnastics to justify its teachings, it should just naturally feel right. There are other reasons too but that was the psychological aspect .

[@jeffmartin-g8r]

I love when people tell the stories of their most difficult decisions. It's kind of their essence. Thank you, Drew. This was great.

[@ijustcamefrombiblestudy2243]

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[@some_doofus]

Exactly this. Hard decisions like this are what define our character. And they’re necessary for everyone, believer or not. If you go through life without ever confronting those dark questions that linger at the back of your mind you will never find fulfilment and peace in yourself. You could be living a lie and not know it, and some people are ok with that, but I certainly wasn’t.

[@some_doofus]

@@jonc3214 what are you 12?

[@ijustcamefrombiblestudy2243]

God *loves you* SO MUCH he _gave_ his _only son_ for YOU. Amen.

[@bigbabatunde1218]

This guy's storytelling is bizarre. How many fallacies can a young guy speak on the one video? 🤦 God didn't Create the first man Adam until the last day of work. Read the first few Chapters of Genesis (it's not hard). Therefore, Mankind wasn't around to witness days 1 to 5. The days of creation aren't literal days of 24 hours as they were days according to God. (See 2nd Peter Chapter 3 Verses 8 and 9 for further insight) It's well known that Moses wrote Genesis. Moses was God's prophet. Evolutionists vouching for 'evolution' ISN'T proving 'evolution' as taught to be true. 🙄 When was the last time any one of you lot held, studied and even analysed a fossil nevermind a series of fossils without having an 'evolution' obsessed professor or lecturer telling you what you're allegedly looking at? *"It is easy enough to make up stories of how one form gave rise to another and to find reasons why the stages should be favoured by natural selection but such stories are not part of science for there is no way of putting them to the test."* And, *"Fossils may tell us many things but one thing they can never disclose is wether they are ancestors of anything else".* Dr Colin Patterson Former SENIOR Paleontologist at The Museum of Natural History. He also went on to say even more extraordinary things about his peers in the scientific community. What about this from Lynn Margulis?....... *"The accumulation of genetic mutations were touted to be enough to change one species to another...I think it was wish fulfillment and social momentum.* *Assumptions, made but not verified were taught as fact."* Also, *"I was taught over and over again that the accumulation of random mutations led to evolutionary change, led to new species.* *I believed it until I looked for evidence."* Lynn Margulis Evolutionary Biologist and Geneticist. Lynn Margulis was a supporter of evolution as well. The mind boggles.

[@MarioLuigi0404]

I was actually arguing with a classmate about religion and I mentioned you. This video is exactly the one I need.

[@meredithnavin1358]

@Donald Trump tee hee hee.

[@اسراردوتكوم]

You just have a reason to go to hell fast if you dye u will see that u are wrong

[@MarioLuigi0404]

اسرار دوت كوم if it’s real, I’ll see you there

[@اسراردوتكوم]

@Chris Blair there is another life after death when u be there no one will lesson to your excuses even god

[@اسراردوتكوم]

@@MarioLuigi0404 ok i would be happy

[@vladimirareynolds7217]

While my mother was raised Lutheran, and my dad raised catholic, neither of them pressured me or my brother to follow religion. The result was that I didn’t even really ponder whether I believed or not. Because I just simply didn’t care … I mean, it’s hard for a kid to contemplate things they don’t believe affect them. However, I started attending a Christian youth group when I was about 15. I went every Sunday evening and listened to the message. Through the group, I made a lot of friends, had a lot of fun participating in activities, and got fulfillment through hearing the pastor’s message. The problem was that no matter how much I tried, I couldn’t make myself believe in god. I mean, huge kudos to the youth pastor, who focused more on the morals and ideas of the bible, rather than the script (which I assume was to appeal to a broader audience), but my brain wouldn’t allow me to believe. So, essentially this magnificent, all-loving being, who created me - did so in a way that I wouldn’t be able to accept Jesus. Yet, without accepting jesus, I’m damned to an eternity of fire … Really? God knew before I was created that I was doomed to hell because of the way he built my brain. Yeah … that’s a being worth worshiping.

[@MrMarco855]

Your life isn't over yet. Do you not expect to learn and become wiser as you get older?

[@vladimirareynolds7217]

​@@MrMarco855 To learn and grow wiser is definitely a life goal for me. It is my desire to explore and delight in everything science and philosophy have to offer. Though, I must admit that the more I learn about myself and the world around me, the more I'm convinced that there's no need to believe in a god. Living on this planet for 34 years, I've discovered tons of evidence, and experienced many things that form the meaning of my life. At the same time, I can definitively say I've found no compelling corroborations for god. You're right when you declare that my life isn't over just yet! However, your correct observation doesn't give you insight into my existence enough to speculate upon my fate. I know where my life has taken me thus far, and I've a pretty good idea on where it's headed ... And converting to theism just doesn't seem like a very likely step in my journey ahead. Still, of course, I'm not clairvoyant. And for all I know, my foresight could be wildly askew (though still more accurate than yours). But by building off of my current stance in regards to god, factoring in my history and learned experiences, harnessing my insight, all the while keeping in mind where I'd be happy to have my story end - None of it points to me having a late-life epiphany and becoming 'saved'. As it stands now, nothing short of receiving a serious brain injury would be enough for me to conjure up the faith it takes to believe in a deity.

[@superegg1909]

You are not damned for eternity as you can not go to a place that does not exist. Stay strong

[@superegg1909]

Not to mention that so many people have faith because it comes with perks. Like evading damnation and living as happy as one can be in the heavens. Read about when those concepts were written - in times of confusion and conflict. Of course people would want something to tell them that it will be ok in the end. Not to mention that scientific knowledge was nowhere near is advanced as it is today. Science has developed and gotten us much farther that a static religion.

[@MrMarco855]

Is your life over?

[@fxbear]

Like you I grew up in a strict evangelical household but I also knew I was gay. That didn’t stop me from diving head first into faith and Bible college where I was forced into a “pray away the gay” group as a condition of my education. I remembered asking my mom when I was younger, “why does the Bible lie about me?”. She had no idea what I was talking about and I spent countless nights begging god to make me straight. It was an attempt at suicide that finally snapped me out of this obsession. I knew I was only moments away from pulling the trigger when I suddenly realized I was dead and being dead, nothing mattered. Nothing my family or the church said mattered. I’d already realized that I didn’t believe what they taught but I had been going through the motions out of obligation and fear. So, being dead, I needed nothing. I got dressed and walked away. I promised myself that if I was still so deeply unhappy after 6 months of living the way I felt I should be living, then I would actually pull the trigger. I never looked back, found my community and for the first time in my life, felt I actually belonged somewhere. I was no longer pretending to be something I wasn’t. I often wonder how I would have turned out had I been straight. That frightens me because there would have been nothing to challenge me. My older siblings are so deeply involved in their churches, it’s impossible to talk to them. Not unlike a friend who is so obsessed with “magic the gathering “, that he can’t hold a conversation that isn’t about that game. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos. I feel a great kinship with you because of it.

[@indigopines]

This needs more likes. I'm happy you're here, dude

[@loturzelrestaurant]

I'm glad Theists come to GMS and watch him, just like Prophet-of-Zod, as they are so polite and adorable. Thats nice and all, but it makes me wonder if they then shy-away all the more from harsh confrontations with solid Walls of Truth, like what Aron Ra just did in his videos about '7 Truths'.

[@alexipetrovski7868]

Ever heard of celibacy if you're finding it hard? Either that or get married to a butch woman. No one is making you act out with actual men. Straight people can't go around having sex with anyone they want either.

[@MrMarco855]

@@loturzelrestaurant If theists should shy away from sites like this it would likely be because of how rude and offensive atheists are toward them and their hateful way of referring to God. Many feel compelled to curse and belittle God in the nastiest possible way, something thats unnecessary and insulting to millions of people. It's also strange the way atheists diversify what they believe in order have a wide array of things to fall back on when theists disrobe their porous talking points. Why does a debate on the subject have to include referring to God in vulgar ways? If atheists don't believe in God that's one issue, but how does vile behavior support or substantiate their argument? Many atheists claim that atheists in general have better morals then theists. An immeasurable and therefore silly claim to make, but where are these better morals when they target God with hatred and slander in our presence knowing full well that God is our beloved deity?

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@MrMarco855 Theres massive Reasons to feel real-resentful towards Religion and the 'idea' of God. Your partially right with how Rudeness kinda does not accomplish much, but not only do you overstate the Number of rude Atheists, if not even generalize them as 'all doing it', which is blatantly false, but you also seem very naive about just how f-ucked Religion is?

[@prochsel3722]

I become an atheist after realising that a logical way of thinking is much more satisfying than believing in a god. Thinking for yourself is really eye-opening and thats why I'm on a good way to get over my chronical depression. Those logical thoughts help you understand your delusional, lets call it, "depression thoughts"... imho

[@BillRevis]

@Mark81150 "Macroevolution is far from proven" HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[@iamnadexey]

@Mark81150 Yes, science is all about questioning. Questions like "What proof is there of a god" and "Why do billions of people believe in something completely and wholly unproven"

[@iamnadexey]

@Mark81150 Also may I say that "21st century Christians" still fight the facts, still fight against gay marriage, and still believe cloud man waved his hands around to create a dinner platter.

[@BrickTavernFilms]

Mark81150 Christianity and science are absolutely mutually exclusive, they completely contradict each other

[@اسراردوتكوم]

If u think a little pit you will find that u learn to think logically not by yourself but by good because when you are in yours mom's stomach you could born with a a chromosom disorder but guess what u have a perfect brain and u decide with your perfect brain to feel free that u are doing what u want and commit a sins thinking that the god will not ask u later and punish u if u stop believing omg there us reason for your every think that the logic thought if you are really logical and not an animal sorry for my wards but i hope god leed u a gain 😭

[@watson5551]

Unfortunately this level of honesty and critical thinking is becoming extremely rare.

[@shashankgupta7460]

It was even more rare in the past. It is not at all becoming more and more rare

[@vincegonzalez2171]

@@shashankgupta7460 True. You used to be killed for it, now you just get disowned by some of your family. Much more welcoming!

[@shashankgupta7460]

@@vincegonzalez2171 that too not in majority of the cases.

[@unknownx7252]

I don't know, I think it's growing.

[@thelyghter7927]

Its not only about the critical thinking (wich has some flaws in the premises), its about the CALMED TONE, the respect and friendly energy that this man shows, what makes him a very rare youtuber in this type of religious debates. Thats the thing I most admire in him, is not getting angry, not insulting, not taking anything personally.

[@gerypeixocarn1150]

I was born already atheist, my whole family are all atheists, and I've never been in contact with any religion, never studied any religion,.I just started to learn superficially the basic aspects of the large religions. I'm still an atheist, and I think the fact I've never had an indoctrination makes my worldview more "pure" , so to say, without any trace of religion influence.

[@topologyrob]

Oh well, none of us are perfect. Sorry for your sheltered existence - perhaps one day you'll become more educated.

[@WeAintJokinHere]

Good luck bro

[@gerypeixocarn1150]

@@WeAintJokinHere I'm more lucky than you

[@WeAintJokinHere]

@@gerypeixocarn1150 what do you mean? I just wished you good luck

[@MrMarco855]

You've been influenced by religion whether you know it or not.

[@keltonsmith8703]

What changed my mind was when my Lutheran school principal taught my religion class and said “no good deed can be done without that person knowing Christ”. That shit straight up baffled me

[@RichardAlan]

HERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT GOD AND SATAN ARE REAL! THIS IS NO LONGER ARGUABLE! UNLESS YOU ARE DELUSSIONAL! If you watch this video in it's entirety, then you will understand the mystery of everything. In this video I provide visual and scriptural evidence that proves that we were all once angels from Heaven, that some rebelled and other were led astray by Lucifer to this dimension, which is called "the flesh" and the Human Host Body is being used to transmute Human Souls into a Serpent Scorpion Locust Race, that will be birthed from the bottomless pit in the end times. These images include the full transmutation process; (Angel-Man-Larva-Death-Locust from within the Alter of St. Peter in the Vatican. The Devil's Church! I also provide visual evidence of who Abaddon, Apollyon, Satan, known as the Angel from the Bottomless Pit is, along with scriptural proof that Lucifer was the original “Builder” of the earth, and why he in known as the "Prince of the Power of the Air" and how He has deceived all of "You" into believing that GOD is not real. These are amazing revelations, and I give All Glory to the Lord God "El" for allowing me to show you this evidence. When you are finished watching this video you will know the Truth about your identity and will be without excuse for not turning to the Lord God. Because on the day when the Lord God judges you, He will say to you that you are without excuse, because His servant (Me) showed you the truth, but you chose not believe or watch this video. I pray that you will take the time to watch this video because it will explain everything throughout history and what's transpiring in the world today with this world-wide lockdown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-TnGqZpauIabs

[@tylerhill40]

As it should.

[@keltonsmith8703]

Richard Montbleau are you high my man

[@jakemj03]

@@RichardAlan Throw away all your books, scripture, and videos, then what "proof" do you have? Scientific method is derived from observing the world around us and making assumptions based on said observations. Those assumptions are then tested by many others who are making the same observations, yet are trying to debunk the initial assumption (which would be well documented), and if they all conclude the same thing i.e. the initial assumption was correct - we have a scientific theory. It's that simple and produces reliable results in any time, planet, or universe. All that nonsense you are rambling on about cannot be tested or proven, and is all from books humans wrote. You are the delusional one!

[@ploodohplanit8259]

@@jakemj03 There is rationale defending Christianity and existence of God. There has been historical events proven to be true. Will there ever be 100% physical proof that "this right here is God," no. Well I'd say the entirety of the earth and universe but I know atheists wouldn't take that. Please search up Frank Turek. He has small clips as well as long debates on behalf of God.

[@exoplanet11]

As an astronomy professor, I am delighted to learn how profoundly an astronomy effected you, and allowed you to begin a long journey.

[@some_doofus]

I’ll stick my hand up and say it did the same for me too. My skepticism began with my love for science. Initially that love was attributed to God and the wonder of his creation, but the more I learned, the less I saw God in it all. He began not to fit anywhere anymore. He wasn’t needed to explain the universe. The rest of my story is incredibly similar to that in the video. Now I’m an atheist, and I’ve finally come to terms with that, and I can pursue my passion for science and truth unbridled by any God of the gaps slowing me down.

[@kaylak8478]

Thanks Jesus for sitting well in my heart.😊😎😊😋

[@Drghost1235]

@@kaylak8478 what does this have to do with the comment?

[@lijohnyoutube101]

@@kaylak8478 What about actually sitting and pondering on the topics instead?

[@rasoolbuxlashari4730]

Professor are there any research gaps in astronomy? If there are then then its too early to become anatheist. If we cant finish understanding creation then how can we think about creator. I wonder atom is small did we finish its study? It is certainly not narrowed research topic, then astronomy is ver broad topic, what is depth.

[@occidere8437]

Personally I was born into a family where I had no pressure by my parents or extended family to follow any belief. I was allowed to believe what I thought was true based on what I was taught in school, I didn't even know what atheism was until some point in middle school. When I discovered what atheism was I simply realized that it described myself.

[@kaylak8478]

Thanks Jesus for sitting well in my heart.😎😋😍😍

[@Davidmallen429]

@@kaylak8478 there are 10,000 religions. You think YOURS is the right one? Jesus was a magician. Nothing more.

[@andreafitzgerald4609]

@@kaylak8478 Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true. LOL

[@Drghost1235]

@@kaylak8478 What does this have to do with what the comment says?

[@eliotoole4534]

Same

[@sorrowsprite]

As someone who grew up atheist, with an atheist family. Kudos to you honestly, the process must have been hard

[@spider-man9118]

We must stay focused, brothers. We must stay focused. Brothers, what have we done. look at us. look at what we've become. This isn't right. we're wasting time going on about girls and sus drawings that don't give a f*ck about us. What is the point of lust? Why do we do this? This doesn't fix our problems, doesn't make the stress and pain go away. Ayo, I don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events. *IF* anyone is interested, read on *NOTE:* I can’t prove God to you. It all comes down to your choice to put your trust in Jesus Christ. That’s all faith is-TRUST. Unfortunately in these recent years, science and “religion” (as we know them today) have bastardized each other and themselves. Point is, faith is trusting in Jesus. It’s not a blind jump into what non-believers call nothingness. Billy Graham said something reminiscent of that. I have no power over you. I can only tell you, but I can’t force you. (I mean, we’re conversing online lol. I’m not at your location… yet) james 4:8 “Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.” hebrews 11:6 “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.” Check out “HolyLandSite, Cold-Case Christianity, Delafé Testimonies.” There may be more, but those are the ones I know of. repent to God, friends. We must stay focused, brothers, on what really matters. I'm only 17, but I'm telling you, in the words of johnny cash, "sooner or later God will cut you down." I don’t want you to suffer like I did/do. *YOU WILL LOSE ALMOST EVERYTHING IMPORTANT TO YOU! PLEASE, FOR YOUR SAKES, REPENT AND TURN TO JESUS! SAVE YOURSELVES FROM YOURSELVES! It’s a pit you *CAN NOT* get out of. *AGAIN, I DON’T WANT YOU TO SUFFER LIKE I DID/DO! I LOVE AND CARE FOR YOU TO TELL YOU THIS!* He is, in the words of Skillet, "better than drugs." He is also *WAY* better than lust. love is greater than lust. You'll find out that this is true. love may hurt, and same for lust, but lust will keep you chained down, eventually killing you mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and possibly physically. AGAIN, I DON’T WANT YOU TO SUFFER LIKE I DID/DO! hell was never meant for us, my fellow youtube user. it was for the devil and his squad, and God gave us the Way out of there since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God knew we were wack, but He decided He was still come down and help us, despite our unfaithfulness. most relationships (like friendships, romantic relationships) aren't like this. Very few, but not a whole lot. religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (see james 1:27) also, we have various types of evidence that backs up the Bible. Here's one example: Scientists have discovered that the earth "skipped" a day. The Bible explains how that happened. In the book of Joshua, Joshua asked the sun to stop so he and the Israelites could defeat their enemies. Then in 2 Kings, King Hezekiah learned he was dying, and pleaded to God to not let him die. God sent a prophet to king hezekiah who said hezekiah would live. Hezekiah wanted a sign, and that would be for the sun to defy the law of inertia and go back 10 degrees. NASA confirmed it and did the math (look it up for more info). We also found Noah’s Ark hanging out in turkey, along with anchor stones marked with crosses signifying that it’s a revered place, along with altars and many other things. Look it up, it’s good stuff (HolyLandSite). more evidence for the Bible concerning cosmology and divine revelation in job 26:7, proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22 (read on) The idea that the earth was round can be dated back to 600 BC in Greece. It was more widely accepted around the 3rd century (300 BC-201 BC) Note: time was “labeled” differently back then. for example, year 3000, year 420, year 69, year 0, year 1, year 2… and so on. Job 26:7: “. . .He [God] hangs the earth on nothing” The book of Job was supposedly written at 2100 BC. Proverbs 8:27: “. . .when He drew a circle on the face of the deep. . .” Proverbs was possibly written between 970 and 686 BC Isaiah 40:22: “it is He who sits above the circles of the earth. . .” Isaiah was written between 739 and 680 BC. This one doesn’t pertain to cosmology, but it refers to divine revelation nonetheless. Isaiah 11:15 “The Lord will dry up the gulf of the Egyptian sea; with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand over the Euphrates River. He will break it up into seven streams so that anyone can cross over in sandals.” Revelation 16:12 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.” How did they know about this? You tell me, my fellow Zoomerz. The Holy Spirit exists. I was suicidal for 9-ish months, but then I read John 3:16, and poof- the big sad went away in one night. Also, look up John Gabbana's (boonk gang) testimony. Dude did a lot of wacky stuff. He's changed now. Check out “Delafé Testimonies.” They got some good stuff as well *YOU CANNOT DENY THE WORK GOD DOES IN PEOPLE’S LIVES* also, the soul exists. someone i know (i won't say who- privacy reasons) saw their soul leaving their body. like pulling off a band-aid, except it doesn't hurt. There are also non-Christian sources who have confirmed the existence and divinity of Jesus, some of which were hostile towards Christianity, such as: Thallus (52 AD), who said Jesus lived, was crucified, and confirmed the darkness and earthquake that followed Christ’s crucifixion; Tacitus (56-120 AD), who called the followers of Christ Christians, confirmed that Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate’s command Talmud (400-700 AD), confirmed that the disciples were martyred for their faith, and confirmed Jesus was executed the day before the Passover, and said Jesus had “magical” powers Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD), who said that the Christians thought Jesus was/is God in the Flesh (God the Son) Phlegon (80-140 AD), who said Jesus had the ability to predict the future, and confirmed that Jesus was crucified during Caesar’s reign, confirmed Jesus rose from the dead, and confirmed He showed His wounds to confirm He was crucified. Celcus (175 AD), who said Jesus was born of a virgin, said His father is a carpenter, and confirmed Jesus had miraculous powers (See cold-case Christianity for more details) Here’s the physical evidence of Jesus and His Resurrection: 1) No persecution would have started if He hadn’t come back (the disciples thought Jesus would never resurrect) 2) The Roman soldiers would have paid with their lives if they failed at their jobs 3) there was a 2-4 ton rock that 11-12 guys would have to move (they didn’t have any help. Everyone said “crucify Him”) major L to those opposed to Jesus 4) there was a Roman seal which was a metal pin that sealed the tomb stone 5) Stealing the Jesus’s body isn’t something the disciples would do (besides Judas. Although he hung himself after feeling remorse for betraying Jesus). 6) the disciples wouldn’t die for what they knew would be a lie. (The lie being Jesus never made the ultimate comeback) faith and reason, people hit me up to learn more about how science proves the Bible or just about God in general

[@Dweeno]

But How can one identify as an atheist while acknowledging the limits of their knowledge?

[@loganskiwyse7823]

It can be.

[@quentind1924]

​@@Dweeno If you take a deck of 52 cards, shuffle it and put the top card on an enveloppe, say that this card is the answer to the universe and burn the rest of the deck (to avoid being able to check which one was missing). I’d much prefer any theory saying we don’t have enough knowledge to say what card it is without opening the enveloppe than joining any cult saying that it has to be the 6th of heart and you need to have faith in it

[@AbhishekDasP]

Born in Hindu family. Saw a lot of superstitions which didnt make any sense. Questioned them. Got no answers that are rational and finally concluded that rationality rules!!!

[@AbhishekDasP]

@storm raider I have heard many people saying this. It was at some point of time, a way of life for people bcz it was the only religion in the region. But now, its not just a way of life. Its having all traits of a religion. All people in the region are not hindus. Only the ones born in hindu families are. It havent adapted to life style and technological advancements. Its more lenient compared to some other religions, but still there are a lot of bad practices, superstitions that deceive commoners. You cannot justify all that. And of course, it teaches you about a god (or many gods) thus making it a religion.

[@RaseRmax]

Yeah, Very true. What did u rationalize about Jesus? Person that was born exactly 2019 years ago.

[@RaseRmax]

@storm raider hinduism is a certain way of life and that's exactly what religion is. Thank u.

[@RaseRmax]

Everyone lives somehow therefore everyone got some kind of religion. It might be reasonable, logical or not at all but everyone lives in certain way and for some reason.

[@RaseRmax]

@storm raider u didn't understand this much. It seems that u just repeat what u heard. What u think religion is? How do u think/believe we should live and what for?

[@ashash4256]

I relate to this so much. My experience is just the Muslim version of your story, minus the essential oil. Unfortunately, where I live, once you're born in a Muslim family, you can never denounce Islam legally. & you're subjected to the Islamic law. It's not as strict as Islamic middle east countries, but still.. One day, I want to be able to change that. Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion.

[@MrMalve25]

That sad to hear, I hope your situation changes soon.

[@Yameen200]

Theres no compulsion in religion quran 2 : 256 The biggest irony is how the muslim countries and families are the ones who violate this thd most !!

[@grahvis]

Without the various forms of complusion, both direct and indirect, religions would now be nothing but a shadow of their former selves.

[@CaesarStoneman]

Sincerely, i hope you are able to find yourself in a place where you can freely express what you believe.

[@LightForxes]

You don’t happen to be Malaysian do you?

[@blakegrodecki1928]

Evolution did it for me. I loved dinosaurs as a kid, so I ended up learning about evolution pretty early, and I was always wanting to go to the museum to see the bones. As a result, I saw the skulls of old humans and realized that we evolved over millions of years too. But my church denied anything that went against God creating a 6000 year universe, so around junior high, I asked if I could stop going to church, and by high school I eventually went full blown atheist after no longer being spoon fed what to believe

[@DulceN]

@@SujitKuRaita First of all, atheists do not ‘believe in atheist’ or even in Atheism. Atheism is not a belief, it’s just the disbelief or lack of belief in any type of god. The rest of your tirade is just pure nonsense, mumble-jumble from someone who can’t even express himself properly and should try to get some education.

[@SujitKuRaita]

@@DulceN what is your basic fandamental believe of atheist ? Why you alieve now? What is your goal ? Who is your personal influenced person or I mean your Idolize ?

[@SujitKuRaita]

@@DulceN If you give the answer to me then I will give you my Goal .

[@flatearthtruth1298]

@@SujitKuRaita You could believe that someone time travelled to fart in the past to cause the Big Bang and you'd still be an Atheist. A theist is someone who worships a god/gods, and the prefix a- means not, or the opposite of. Atheists are people who don't worship a god/gods, simple as that.

[@SujitKuRaita]

@@flatearthtruth1298 i do not want to read your text .and i do not need some one have no purpose to leave or die .

[@Shadow1shifter]

Im an agnostic Atheist and I went with 2 friends to a catholic youth group and it felt way too pushy but it's "nice" people made it hard to stay. I've had a hard time with any religion as I have no faith/grace whatever you call it, and due the way I was treated by the church. As someone with adhd and depression/anxiety, I felt like I was a child that couldn't work like others did and yelled at for being "broken, lazy," and "why can't you be like everyone else?" I tried understanding their points but they didn't want mine. So I shut down and wanted out of the conversation. I grew up feeling something was wrong with me with no confidence because of people that bullied me and I was uncomfortable in that situation. How do I debate anything if no one tries to hear or listen to me? They just wanted to win.

[@pendita66]

Christianity is a relationship with a God who loves you, not a religion.

[@bazukata3734]

Some people say "Human is social animal" i say better alone that with people like this only tip for better life i can gife you is play game like Team Fortress 2 or better like Warframe or Undertale look af video like the one make by Bettina Levy and if you REALLY don't have reason or someone for who to stay in your country maybe go to other if you do this in bulgaria most of the people are cool but the politicians is BAD just you know.

[@metroidmayhem8463]

Essential oils smell good. Thats about it.

[@safieandjatari1394]

Yes it is. And some of them makes me relax. Thats it 😁

[@aamnotsuree154]

No. tHeY cUrE cAnCer /s

[@jwdernehl]

Juan E. Only if taken in the rectum.

[@garethbaus5471]

Depends on the essential oil, lavender smells unpleasant in any form.

[@supremoluminary]

There’s data on various essential oils. Did you search?

[@ismt9390]

My christian dad was my inspiration for becoming an atheist. He thought that he was short on money because he didn't pray or didn't go to church often enough. Wish i was joking. I noticed that most people had selfish reasons for believing in god.

[@ayala0023]

yeah god is like the top thing to blame your own doings on and therefore rid yourself of your responsibility of your actions, along with the freedom to choose to do the action. unfortunately not taking all of the responsibility and excusing yourself by simply following the rules often times leads to people carrying out horrific crimes and blaming it on the god (or extremist party leader and so). people like that because it gives them comfort. like ive been told things like, "dont be sad you failed the exam you prepared for so hard, it was according to the gods plan..." okay karen and how exactly does that benefit me? is murdering milions of people in wars also according to gods plan? if so, whats the point of it?

[@jk6653]

Aku Jo haha... That's so sad that your salvation has been compromised based on your dads way of life. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@nadyaphang3610]

I've been christian for years and everyday I'm still learning how to live as a good christian. Its a process of understanding, and maybe at that time, your dad had not understood clearly about God. Maybe at this point of life, you are an atheist. But we're all still learning about life, so keep searching for the answers of the questions you have in life, including the questions you might have about God. I hope you'll search from the right sources, and I hope you'll find something bigger than your current understanding. GBU!

[@roems6396]

They said that was their inspiration. I’m sure they remain an atheist because there is no evidence that any gods exist, let alone the ancient Canaanite deity, Yahweh. He most certainly doesn’t exist.

[@ismt9390]

@@nadyaphang3610 The bible story is ridiculous overall. Yes my father was a bad christian in my opinion, but a christian nonetheless. Everybody's faith is different, but i've noticed how most people believe in god because of their own arrogance or selfishness and how that contradicts the very message of their religion and saviour.

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

A young woman teacher explains to her class of third graders that she is a born-again Christian. She asks the class if any of them are born-again Christians too. Not really knowing what it means to be born-again, but wanting to please and impress their teacher, many little hands suddenly shot up into the air. There was, however, one exception. A girl named Sarah had not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asked her why she has decided to be different. "Because I'm not a Christian." "Then," asks the teacher, "what are you?" "I'm an atheist." The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Sarah why she is an atheist. "It's just that my family isn't religious. My Mom is atheist, and my Dad is atheist, so I am atheist." The teacher is now angry. "That's no reason." she says loudly. "What if your Mom was a moron, and your Dad was a moron. What would you be then?" "Then," says Sarah, "I'd be a born-again Christian."

[@fruitysnax9219]

oof

[@closet__optimist]

This comment just makes me happy lmao

[@ChrisSmith-xh9wb]

An old joke, and one I've heard told several times by preachers at Christian conferences (or some variant thereof). Still funny , though.

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

This is a joke, of course, but I remember living a similar situation. A couple of christian partners at highscholl one day asked to another partner why he was a buddhist(it was a pretty weird thing 20 years ago), and he answered "because my parents are buddhists". In return, they asked if he wasnt able to think for himself, forgetting that they both were born in christian homes. Such is the blindness of believers. Their view is "sharp" when pointed everywhere but within.

[@danielwilliam8376]

nah my teacher humbly respected my opinion as being an atheists, he told me to do some deep research that jesus is real

[@RickyDueck]

I just rewatched this after 4 years. What a goldmine!

[@zucicciu58]

Outstanding!! Logical and to the point. My ‘eye-opening’ occurred when I was 11 years old (more than 50 years ago)and it was frightening because I lacked the intellectual tools to rationalize my being ‘different’. Your transformation relied on setting up great foundational stones to support the deconversion process. That took great courage and a dedication to be honest to yourself. Welcome to side of intellectual freedom.

[@alhamdleallah]

وَجَاء مِنْ أَقْصَى الْمَدِينَةِ رَجُلٌ يَسْعَى قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اتَّبِعُوا الْمُرْسَلِينَ And there came a man running from the farthest part of the town. اتَّبِعُوا مَن لاَّ يَسْأَلُكُمْ أَجْراً وَهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ Obey those who ask no wages of you وَمَا لِي لاَ أَعْبُدُ الَّذِي فَطَرَنِي وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ "It would not be reasonable in me if I did not serve Him Who created me, and to Whom ye shall (all) be brought back. أَأَتَّخِذُ مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً إِن يُرِدْنِ الرَّحْمَن بِضُرٍّ لاَّ تُغْنِ عَنِّي شَفَاعَتُهُمْ شَيْئاً وَلاَ يُنقِذُون ِ"Shall I take (other) gods besides Him? If (Allah) Most Gracious should intend some adversity for me, of no use whatever will be their intercession for me, nor can they deliver me. إِنِّي إِذاً لَّفِي ضَلاَلٍ مُّبِينٍ "I would indeed, if I were to do so, be in manifest Error. إِنِّي آمَنتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ فَاسْمَعُونِ "For me, I have faith in the Lord of you (all): listen, then, to me!" قِيلَ ادْخُلِ الْجَنَّةَ قَالَ يَا لَيْتَ قَوْمِي يَعْلَمُونَ It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- بِمَا غَفَرَ لِي رَبِّي وَجَعَلَنِي مِنَ الْمُكْرَمِينَ "For that my Lord has granted me Forgiveness and has enrolled me among those held in honour!" Quran. Islam kzbin.info/www/bejne/laiVqnpnl6l9nNE

[@zmtr6377]

@@alhamdleallah quoting quran doesnt prove anything

[@Scarecrow059]

zucicciu58 there is no freedom without god my friend

[@amirarsalanganji8304]

Oh wow!... im 12 right now!

[@hhm7185]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnisZmyAjNdnqJI

[@Ristofec]

As someone who has literally never believed in a “god” of any denomination, I can’t even imagine how hard this process must have been for you. Kudos man.

[@colepriceguitar1153]

Why don’t you believe in God?

[@wardenstone6021]

@@colepriceguitar1153although im not the original commenter, ill share my reasoning. From i was a pretty young kid i pulled away majorly from the belief in any higher power despite going to a school where every morning we would sing hymns and pray to god. But out of that i began to wonder, as i began to learn more and more about history and i thought, “well, why does our god, who is meant to be the father to his creations allow us to suffer”. And beyond that, why even allow evil to begin with, if humans having “free will” was so integral, then surely he could just use his infinite power to remove the doing evil part from humanities free will, and therefore eradicate suffering. Worshipping a god to me feels really kind of off putting. I dont care if others do because that’s their business. But to worship a being that has the power but not the inclination to stop the horrific things that happen in the world, i do not think deserves to be worshipped in any way.

[@colepriceguitar1153]

@@wardenstone6021 so you would rather be a robot with no ability to have free will? Can you even comprehend a world where no one can make any choices? Besides, who are you to decide what is horrible and what is not? There’s no objective standard for morality, so what you think is bad is perfectly acceptable to someone else. Who decides that? From an atheistic point of view, everyone does, which means ultimately that no one does.

[@wardenstone6021]

@@colepriceguitar1153 i would rather have had, if one existed, a god which used his infinte apparent powers to simply get rid of this “evil” which he expects people to abstain from. What’s more, i would damn well expect him to do something about the hundreds of thousands that die in war. There is nothing noble, nothing worthy to be worshipped of a being that willingly allows his creations to butcher one another over if he or some other form of god is real or not and sit back doing nothing like its amusing to him. You speak on the topic of objective or subjective morality and i must say that i am not an expert on the topic. But i have given it some thought and have 2 opinions on it: 1) if to have objective morality means that we live in a world in which a higher power allows it to be within his moral purview to allow the death and destruction of thousands of people, and the endless torment of all those who do not blindly follow him, and the rules he created, after he made us, while he knew we are unable to follow the rules he made and may succumb to the evil that HE allows, then i dont want there to be objective morality. 2) i see the “issue” of morality much in the same way as you may view the definition of a word. Take a word like “anvil”. Well, a word is just a noise right, who am I, as just one lone person, to tell you that an anvil is infact a piece of equipment used to aid the smithing process for metal work. Well, my opinion wouldnt matter. Unless of course, everyone around me to the vast extent also said “yes. This is what an anvil is”. Well then, we as a collective have agreed that, that is what an anvil is. So, take something like robbery. I may say alone “hey, that is fundamentally immoral”. But its only when the majority of those around me agree that it becomes immoral. Let me challenge your point about morality with 2 of my own if i may. How do you believe that the greeks and the romans and the other bronze age civilisations constructed their laws and morality? Was it subjective or objectivr. And second of all, if, as i imagine theists believe, that morality is defined by God as it is in the bible, then why isnt the punishment for those immoral acts objective? Surely if he wants to make it clear that these things are allowed and these other things arent, then why doesnt everyone that commits them face the same punishment?

[@colepriceguitar1153]

@@wardenstone6021 So your telling me you would worship God if he didn’t allow things like war and death to happen? Well if he didn’t allow those things, you would never know what evil was because all you would know was good. You say that morality can be defined by the vast majority of people, but do you really think that’s a good idea? Go out into the street and ask people questions about morality and see if they have made much of an effort to come up with a sensible and consistent ethical point of view. Look at history and see how senseless the vast majority can be, it’s called mob rule and is often a terrible outcome. How do I believe the Greeks and Romans constructed their laws? By using their minds to try to construct sensible and practical laws. They weren’t necessarily right in all instances, but that’s how they did it. Some laws were objectively right and some were objectively wrong, and some subjectively right and wrong. Why is the punishment not all the same for those who break Moral laws? Well on earth they may receive different consequences because the world is imperfect because we are imperfect beings. But afterwards, they do all receive the same punishment of eternal destruction if they do not submit to God’s will.

[@almightyfitness7927]

I’m a Christian and I’d like to start by saying Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I respect everyone else’s belief including the gentlemen in this video. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

[@robertbozic467]

W Christian, you're not one of those walking disappointments who are disrespectful to atheists and threaten everyone except Christians with hell.

[@Kanoly]

I guess my "fall from faith" Was around 11-12 years old, when I noticed that everywhere, and from everyone in my Catholic school/peers, I was encouraged to learn and ask questions and get more knowledge from everything EXCEPT our faith. How come I'm praised when I ask the function of topics, but when questioning anything religion, I'm scolded into the exact opposite.

[@tylowstar9765]

I'm a little late, but as a convinced Christian, I'd say you probably weren't in a very good church or sect if you were scolded for your curiosity. In any church I've been to questions are actively encouraged.

[@themostdiabolicalhater5986]

Brazul Blint He didn’t claim to have proved the absence of god. You jumped the gun a little

[@CaesarCassius]

Makes sense, since Catholicism is paganism and no better than atheism or Islam

[@massimo96]

Frizky this is so so so facts

[@MrKit9]

@SPCheats All church groups are cults.

[@frankwilson726]

Pascal's Wager: " It is safer to believe in God even if there is no proof that one exists." Homer Simpson: "Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder!"

[@chaoticmasterpiece]

That's still a better chance than not. Even 0.00000001% is better than 0. Infinitely better in fact.

[@frankwilson726]

@@chaoticmasterpiece “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” ~Christopher Hitchens~

[@chaoticmasterpiece]

@@frankwilson726 Right back at you. Atheism has no proof, but Religion has prophecies in which the Bible is not wrong on any of them so far, I think of course.

[@frankwilson726]

@@chaoticmasterpiece Wow I simply made a statement by Blaise Pascal followed by a facetious reply by Homer Simson and bang you jumped in with both feet. Here is another for you..."In Christianity, neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche~ Now for my answer to your statement...Athiest's don't need to prove anything, they simply do not believe in any god or gods. As for myself,, I am not an Athiest I am an Agnostic. I am not trying to dissuade you in any way, if your faith gives you a sense of peace good for you. I on the other hand having studied Religion for fifty years, especially the "Christian" Bible find it to be a comedy of errors full of contradictions and fallacies. If you are going to live by your book you should get to know it, not simply think about it.

[@chaoticmasterpiece]

@@frankwilson726 The only part of the Bible I ever read was Psalms. Other than that, just heresay on the Bible's stories. Though I'm somehow more knowledgeable about it then other people for some reason which is weird. And Nietzsche was insane, nice mustache though.

[@mavrosyvannah]

Reading the Bible with an honest mind did it for me.

[@SujitKuRaita]

Brother ,I Wana say one thing ,if you believe in Atheist ,then why you are believe ing without foundation of Big bang theory ,Beacuse my friend hed also believed like Atheist that, we are a dot (.)in The whole Universe ,The rule And regulations are made by Human,No fellings ,no love ,leave like I m the better person in the world ,Who get successed there life they are master and the failer are just bardern in the world,there are one human has lead himself to Dominent control over Other human being like a tool ,We leave or die it doesnot effect to the world,Human being is Just like A bunch of blood vessels we can kill someone for Fun it is No Obligation For Follow the rule or not,science and Astrology Is Says Human being Is one kind of mechanism that just running today and Tomorrow will stopped and There not More Value,But One Day He have Seen A Logical Thinking Existing Of Heaven ,Hell,And Truth of God ,that jesus is God. Brother,i m not blame you ,you do not believe in god so you think there no matter of miracle of birth is happen ,so i give you the proof that jesus born not by men ,because he has 24 chromosome out of 46 ,that founded by scientists in Israel where jesus died on the hill that under the grave ,so plese watch the video ,jesus is alive in heaven ,and if heaven and hell does not exists then see the next video that the voice of hell in people ,and if you are not believe heaven then search in google ' Cristal city founded by nasa' that is the equal shape of immage what is written bible . Blood Proof of jesus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJa0gZKidsekY9U Hell in deep found by Russia : kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXrbiHd-p5aXmsU ,..,

[@mavrosyvannah]

@@SujitKuRaita get an education in writing. This brief contains nearly one hundred errors. Your ideas are complete nonsense.

[@budoway1860]

He's a desperate fool trying to get brownie points from his invisible master!

[@SujitKuRaita]

@@mavrosyvannah ok.nic

[@1221-o7e]

@@SujitKuRaita that isn't proof at all, also they only called it hell for the naming ever think a dragonfly is a literal dragon?

[@CuriousCaine]

First off, well done! What a delight to hear an articulate description of both your journey and your present rationale for where you ended up. I spent about 18 years as an evangelical Christian, beginning at age 18 (I was raised Episcopalian). What drew me and kept me was personal experience, and more particularly, *metaphysical* experience which I attributed to the interventions of Jesus. As I got into my 30's I began to see my metaphysical experiences as something I had in common with people of many different faiths or of no faith. This led to me questioning the origin of the Bible, the organized church, and ultimately, the whole notion of anyone needing "salvation." I tend to avoid the term "atheist" to describe where I ended up because that is often interpreted to be "anti-theist." At root, I am a "live and let live" person. If you choose to believe the Bible, I feel no compulsion to convince you not to believe, so long as you let me believe as I see fit. I DO believe in metaphysical experience and allow for the possibility that there may be a universal "god" or life force behind it all. I also believe that today's metaphysics will be better understood and accepted as tomorrow's physics. The "intention experiments" are a first step in this direction, measuring electrical effects at the receiving end of sent intentions, in a double-blind set of experiments. However, I feel no need to "worship" any forces just because I don't understand them. Lastly, I find the Old Testament stories to be more likely about earthly rulers or possible extraterrestrials than an actual deity with a "chosen people." Yes, we're all special and deserve a trophy. Or something. And the New Testament is so specious in its origins and subsequent filtering of its content as to be quite controversial and untrustworthy. We can't even get a straight answer as to how Judas Iscariot died! The funniest thing about the Bible is that it was curated, filtered, edited and promoted by the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholics were its exclusive conservators until the Protestant Reformation led to a few minor tweaks. Today, the more fundamentalist a person is, the more anti-Catholic they tend to be. But the ultimate irony is, these same fundamentalists are the very same people most likely to assert that the Bible is the perfect, literal, inspired word of God. (Even though it was brought to you by the "anti-Christ" Catholics!) LOL

[@silverback7783]

Life is strange for sure.😂

[@WellMeaning]

I left islam after years of suffering with depression because I had feelings for my friend of the same gender. I went through a very similar epiphany. Thank you, Drew for making these videos. You explain my doubts so eloquently in every video.

[@mulacula9540]

And in the end did the same gender like you?

[@safiaann4133]

please help him www.patreon.com/SherifGaber

[@paragonofvirtue270]

Cameron Dewhurst : that’s beside the point my friend ,10% or less of the animal kingdom follow their instincts and desires for same gender infatuations ,and yet gays want to ignore the other 90% ,how can anyone justify something like that ?

[@paragonofvirtue270]

Cameron Dewhurst : I hope you don’t think that I’m defending myself .

[@ronnthebigchiefron3914]

Islam wasn't the issue, your inability to control your desires, you left Islam snd you're as miserable because deep down inside you know your lifestyle is wrong remember we all will be held accountable for what we do in this short life it's a test think it over

[@Ben10man2]

As a theist, I can definitely respect your viewpoint. I understand and even identify with some of your former doubts, and you are absolutely well educated. Thanks for bringing such a good conversation to the forefront.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Thank you! 😊

[@jeancorriveau8686]

Yes, the author of this video is very well spoken and well educated. Nevertheless, his arguments are not convincing. See my comment for details.

[@Foxbat2929]

Cool story bro

[@roems6396]

Raymond Palmer What are you talking about? Planets are not debris from a war.

[@roems6396]

Raymond Palmer I don’t know if that’s true or not, but you can’t say that’s the only way for it to accumulate. There could be other ways. Maybe asteroids rich in heavier elements could cause it. It’s all just speculation.

[@teddycollier4909]

I'm not going to hell. I'm going to decompose.

[@johndouglas4826]

The devil wants to think that :( I pray that you listen with your God given conscience by which you know the truth that part of you never lies. Though it is muffled. I am not asking you to believe in the bible because it confirms it is foolishness to un-believers. Ask yourself these questions answer honestly with yourself, I'll fill in my answers. Have many lies have you told? Countless Have you ever stolen anything regardless how small? Yes. Have you ever used God's name in vain? Yes Have you ever looked at a woman with lust? Yes. Now you may be saying I am a Human being so of course i have done these things and that is the point. We are born into Sin and we do wrong instinctively due to our default nature due to what Adam done. So that's why we deserve to go to Hell because we are criminals in Gods eyes and if any of the above things were done to you e.g lying stealing you would know it's wrong and would have righteous indignation towards those actions. The point is our standard for right and wrong is absolutely non existent it's based on what we feel. You probably feel that paedophilia is wrong, But paedophiles don't and how are they wrong? At that point it is your opinion? The majority of Germany was for Hitler does that make Hitlers actions correct? Well you couldn't say because you have no Moral basis. What if 80% of the world started proclaiming raping is okay? The 10 commandments shows us we are liars thieves blasphemers liars and adulterers at heart and in some cases worse than that. The proof of God in his creation as this amazing universe we know that the universe had a starting point due to 2nd law of thermodynamics which means it has to be caused by something that isn't the universe at one point there was nothing and then there was something and nothing couldn't have made that happen unless there is an cause of the universe that is timeless spaceless and immaterial. We need all three of these principles. Time Space and Matter make up our universe and there is starting point that has to be outwith these.

[@johndouglas4826]

Once you are born again (repent ask God for forgiveness) and Trust in Jesus Christ and you will have the promise that the truth will be revealed to you it is the first step in the supernatural and it will feel amazing. I thought the whole God thing was insane! check out kzbin.info and look at some of their videos and it will explain why you don't want to believe in God and how many atheists change their mind once you ask the question which came first the chicken or the egg?

[@yougotnojamzsbish367]

@@johndouglas4826 ok shut up noone wants to hear a sob story about this. And stop shovinf your religion in someone elses throat

[@johndouglas4826]

@@yougotnojamzsbish367 You can reject the message God gives you that option it just has eternal consequences. God Bless

[@yougotnojamzsbish367]

@@johndouglas4826 stop shoving it down everyones throats

[@Jess_2025]

Wonderful, informative video! You were lucky to have the internet when you became an Atheist! It was very lonely & isolating to be an Atheist in the early 1980’s. One would be socially shunned and outcasted if anyone found out. It’s slightly easier now but still tough in most parts of the country.

[@tomiedollie]

I first became skeptical when I was around 14, going on 15. I took everything in the Bible with a grain of salt and began to take apart contradictions and immoralities that were presented in the Old Testament. When my family caught on, I was exiled from their sabbath services (they’re jewish, not christian.) for a short while. I realized that I missed being around them, so I came back. My faith wasn’t strong but it was enough to not question God and pretend to believe everything I was told. This facade continued up until recently. I came out to my family as transgender and I was met with semi-support. They didn’t understand what I was going through, but they didn’t ridicule me or display any signs of being unsupportive. After a while, I began to express myself how I wanted. I substituted my traditional long skirt for pants. This displeased my family. The women were particularly unhappy with my decision. What followed was a “conversation” that turned into transphobia and emotional manipulation. They told me that God saw me as an abomination and that they would always see me as my assigned gender at birth, despite starting my transition and noticing the changes I’m going through as a man. They told me that I am not natural and that I go against what God made me; a woman. My sister asked me if I would really choose between spending time with them and keeping faith or not; I chose not. Eventually, they told me that I was no longer welcome in their religious space and that I had to adapt their mindset/tradition and abandon my own identity in order to be accepted. That interaction completely destroyed any faith I had left. Why would I have faith in a deity that sees me as an unholy abomination? What’s the point of praying about it when God would never answer me? I came to a simple conclusion days later: God has no role in my life and neither do my relatives. Surrounding myself around people who see me as who I am and accept me for who I am is far more important than trying to please something that doesn’t even want me. Finding my own purpose and living my life authentically is the biggest fuck you I’ve ever given to anything without a single ounce of regret.

[@vhawk1951kl]

everything in whose bible(which only means book)?

[@moonandsun8982]

I’m so sorry for you I hope you find people that will love you and accept you I have a friend that exactly go trough that, I hope that your happy now

[@The_Trident_Master]

Ironically, you say you surrounded yourself with people who see you as you are, yet they probably say that you are a man.

[@gianlu4357]

im sorry that you had to go trough that, remember to always stand up for yourself and who you are because only you know truly how you feel. Wish you the best.

[@MrMarco855]

God loves you as he always has, he doesn't consider you an abomination, it's the act that he loathes. It's the same for all of us, there's no need to feel mistreated. I have temptations that are difficult to control and I've failed at times in that regard. God doesn't hate me for failing, he hates that the sin won me over. He wants the best for us, sin is never the best.

[@tristondula9776]

Hilariously my journey to atheist started with my younger self asking my preacher "why does it never talk about dinosaurs in the bible" I was a big dinosaur fanatic back then

[@danyaelpecson557]

Donald Tan they are mentioned in the book of Job yes?

[@brianna_monique_williams]

The Bible may not dinosaurs if you believe in a slow creation and God didn’t put humanity on earth until after the fossil fuels were ready to be dig up thousands of years later man existed

[@quintongrimbeek]

@@danyaelpecson557 Read the book of Job.

[@danyaelpecson557]

Quinton Grimbeek i did and read descriptions of creatures that are close to prehistoric creatures. Did I interpret that wrong?

[@jl8810]

I remember at age 4 asking my dad what happened to the dinosaurs. He told me that they were too big so god killed them all. Even at the age of 4 I thought "What a stupid answer"!

[@naomilovenpeace]

As somebody who majored in Astrophysics your story about your astronomy class changing your views made me so happy :)

[@JM-us3fr]

Yeah taking astronomy helped me too. Science in general is just a miracle drug

[@tma2001]

The history of astronomy has been one long demotion of mankind's special place in the universe. First it was flat and everything revolved around us. Then it was obviously round but still the unmoving centre. Then it was spinning and orbiting around a Sun that was the centre. Then the solar system was half out to the edge of the galaxy which still comprised everything. Finally (just under a 100 yrs ago) the galaxy was just another 'island universe' amongst billions in a vast expanding cosmos. And some respectable scientists speculate that our universe is part of a multi-verse (an atom in Gods toenail as some satirist was once described it :)

[@pounceonyou1958]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/baHOaqJ6p9WZbM0&ab_channel=DiscoveryScience

[@chunkymonkey5260]

I was a Christian for years... then literally it took only a few days of actual research to turn me atheist

[@shwty9215]

What evidence has convinced you?? Who/what created the universe if it wasn’t God?

[@shwty9215]

snickers boi I don’t disagree with evolution, older versions of the OT Bible actually supported evolution, Adam and Eve were more then likely just the first people of isreal or the first people with free will.

[@shwty9215]

snickers boi lmafo😭 what dose anything have to do with Ethiopia?

[@khomotsokgomo1538]

@@hayoulooked carefully think about this. Does that make sense? Where did those esteroids come from? Think carefully my friend

[@khomotsokgomo1538]

@@hayoulooked was the asteroid always there? If yes. Then why do you ppl doubt the immortality of God but you believe that an asteroid was always there waiting for a chance to crash or separate to form planers? Even if that's what happened, what caused those steroids to react like that. Is it energy? Is it the wind? Then if so, where did that wind or energy come from? You atheist or whatever you call yourselves believe that energy can't be created or destroyed, yet you doubt God's eternal power, his immortality and his existence..The energy around us is the very assence of God. The energy you speak of is his indistructable power he used to create the world and all life. How can an asteroid create life? How can a non living thing from space create such complicated feelings inside a human being? How can an asteroid create an emotion of happiness, sadness, sorrow, anger, pride and joy? Can't you see the spirituality in all this? Can't you see that something bigger than what your science tells you is at work here. Scientist only know 6% of this universe but they already say God doesn't exist. I'm not saying they will find God in space but the point I'm trying to make is that you know so little about everything but yet you are under the impression that God doesn't exist. A rock from space exploded and created life and all this beauty around us. How does that make any sense? How can an explosion create such Beauty when it is supposed to destroy. Can't you see there is a mastermind behind all this? Someone pulling the strings. God exists my friend, just ask Him to prove Himself to you, and He will do so

[@elisamastromarino7123]

I left religion because I noticed that the most egregious people on the planet, and the first to shed blood, are religious people. It got me thinking and reading. One day it all came clear. September 11 2001 made everything crystal clear for me. God is a construct within closed off minds and I am way too good of a person to hate any group of people because of what some guy says about some god he's never seen, spoken with nor met. I no longer hate anyone - not even religious people, tho I realise they create their own sins and problems for the rest of us. I know that some of them, like me, will walk out of the fog.

[@someonesilence3731]

@Omar Anwar Religie? ja inderdaad

[@Lady_Di42]

@@azeez8399 yeah but still the great majority of suicide bombings/terror attacks are done because of religion.

[@pivotguydc1149]

@@covenantsoul8027 Those are some giant leaps of logic, my friend 🤣

[@LemonSte]

@@covenantsoul8027 white men do plenty of raping. Also, Islam didn't cause 9/11. It's actually because of America intruding on the wars of the middle East that suicide bombing was even introduced and spread between countries. You might want to watch a documentary by Adam curtis called Hypernormalisation. I hate Islam the same as I hate all religion, but let's not pretend here.

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

@@covenantsoul8027 No, she's going to blame it on religion. Weren't you paying attention?

[@leebennett4117]

My Journey to atheism started when I asked my Sunday school "Where did God Come from" Basically he said it Doesn't matter But it Did to me!!!

[@UnderMan]

When the theist says "God has always been". Using that argument, why couldn't the universe have always been? Still no need for god.

[@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786]

@Disconsolate Tomas If Energy can not come into existence it is reasonable to belive it never came into existence but always existed You can't say it is impossible to create Energy therefore Energy was created because the first claim contradict the first one

[@leebennett4117]

@Disconsolate Tomas Then what is God made of?

[@abelbradd2626]

@@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786 It can't have always existed, because of entropy we know that it is going to have an end, therefore it must have a beginning, we also know that only nothing comes from nothing, at least NATURALLY, because of that, we can know with 100% certainty that God exists, our very universe and everything we know about it says so.

[@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786]

@@abelbradd2626 The second law of thermodynamic states the entropy in ISOLATED SYSTEMS don't misinterpret pysics

[@allycinwunderland]

You and your wife are incredibly comforting to me. Its nice to be listen to yall because you are going through the same things I am. For example, I dont hate christians just because im an atheist. I have been traumatized and hurt by my dogmatic upbringing, but i dont go around verbally attacking christians for fun. You two are very kind and level-headed. You show the harms of extremist christian ideology without being condescending. And unlike other channels, your content doesnt leave me angry and triggered by thoughts of my toxic christian childhood. You guys just make me think and I love that! Very impartial

[@redcowcat8705]

You don't have to be a scientist to be an atheist. Not knowing how the universe began, does not mean jesus or allah or yahweh made it.

[@Trimmxthy]

SaRCasm princess right

[@gaurichauhan3453]

Ikr i hate when people say "{insert any religious god name} started the world"like bish do you know science?or anything about it , your god was a normal human who was born and died like you will one day

[@nurl____]

so how it was made?

[@redcowcat8705]

@@nurl____ how should i know? Sometimes, it's better to not know. Believe me.

[@mntl5044]

Also doesnt mean that absolutely nothing made all this

[@sonderment]

I’m atheist, but it’s hell in the comment section. Edit: Hell in the reply section also.

[@lafudge2929]

Agreed...

[@ironyuppie2089]

Rimshot...

[@zlatko8051]

Ja.To France or Scandanavia we go.

[@FutureAIDev2015]

Pun intended?

[@sonderment]

Matthew Ferrie mhm.

[@suburbanoctopus4517]

i love the bs sign pointing to the essential oil stuff in the background

[@greenmachine9]

he is the alpha male

[@australianandrew128]

Tim Minchin defined it for me (STORM) Q: What do they call alternative medicine that works ? A:Medicine

[@CoolUwUer]

I'm an agnostic theist, I believe in God (for personal reasons I will not mention) however, I do not believe in a certain piece of scripture, or book which was written by a fallible, and human mind. Although our views are just a tad bit different, this was an amazing video and even solidified some of my views even more.

[@gayfrogs6762]

I was told to use that brain that god gave me. I’m an atheist now :/

[@loveall7280]

TWO Words can completely destroy any Atheist. At Heist = Atheist Look up those two defintions. Should help you

[@maybehere_]

@@loveall7280 you're the type of person to capitalize the beginning of each letter in a sentence and put a period in the end

[@alexandrosnicolaou1988]

Not only that but he got the ethimology of the word wrong 😂

[@undeterred]

@@loveall7280 LMFAO human stupidity truly knows no bounds

[@sadcat8671]

Love All whatever this guy said, made everyone reading it dumber, as well as myself.

[@Eliot451]

So to sum it up in four words; You started to think.

[@roblovestar9159]

Five words. You left off "critically". ;)

[@Andrew_Sword]

Four word doesn't do it justice though

[@ethanbreeze997]

No, you went thinking. I’ll prove any atheist wrong with and question thrown at me. Let the truth be made truth and lie be made lie. We will see. My Instagram is dailybiblevrse. Contact me.

[@joshuawagner1149]

@@ethanbreeze997 I appreciate what you are trying to do, but when your response is riddled with typos and grammer errors, no one will hear you out, my man.

[@gideone9802]

Why do you think christains cant think?

[@ShannonQ]

Succinct, genuine and honest. Well done guy. I appreciate the video reference as well. I'm glad you found value in it. ❤ Can't wait to give you a real life hug at Faithless Forum. For now I'll settle for a virtual one. 😉

[@mateohedircortesvega955]

What does "Syscint" mean? And how is it pronounced?

[@mrbigfellanz]

Succinct means to be briefly and accurately explained. Pronounced : Suck sinked or sick sinked

[@mateohedircortesvega955]

@@mrbigfellanz Thank you.

[@ShannonQ]

@@mateohedircortesvega955 it means I spelled it wrong lol I'll fix it.

[@ntr10me]

Yo, Shannon ^_^. So grateful for how you take on the incel stuff. Well done.

[@InspiredSkeptic]

I used to grow up in a [religious] household. I used to be a Christian, but my mind could never make total true sense of the spiritual. I never felt like I could "connect" with a god. After I started living on my own, exploring my total interest in and love for astrophysics and related fields, I came to this beautiful belief in our existence. To me it is the most beautiful thing that we all come from star "stuff" just like the objects around us. Our existence and the universe around us itself is more amazing and provides me with much more peace and amazement than any deity ever could. I feel freed and relieved to just be able to live a human life without being fearful my entire life that I might end up in hell because I'm gay, or that I am a bad person because I'm just bad by birth like we are told to believe. Life has much more meaning and much more value to it, for me that is, since I became an atheist. I also lost my fear of death completely.

[@BlueKnight93]

I have always believed God is the universe. It goes hand and hand in my opinion.

[@Tasblack515]

Now if u die u will be confused coz who killed u well most of the people are killing peoples but when a people die suddenly then who killed u tell me tell me right now is god came in here and killed u do u think? Huh this is my reason now u say u don't believe god then who killed u do u believe die?

[@De3e3]

I had a vision of Jesus Christ in April of 2024 riding on a white horse as if He was ready to go to war with a sword 🗡️ in His hand. So yes, God is real. Jesus is real. And He's coming back very soon🤍 So believe in Jesus and repent of your sins. Ask God to forgive you in Jesus name. ♥️ Because Jesus decided to lay down His life for humanity, we have a chance at salvation and eternal life in heaven once this physical life is over. We don't have to be eternally damned in hell after we die. We don't have to be tormented for ever and ever. Once we transition from our physical body to our spiritual body, we can have eternal happiness and peace in heaven with God and our Lord and Savior.🤍 Remember, after this physical life is over, our spirits will live on. The body dies, but the spirit doesn't die. Have you ever had a dream that felt soooo real??? Although your body is in your bed, your spirit is activating the dream which is why it feels sooo real. And that's how it will be when we depart our physical bodies. Our physical bodies will expire and decompose, BUT our Spirits will live on and either be with God/Jesus❤️ 🙏 Or with the devil/demons which I hope and pray nobody's soul will have to go there. ...

[@maryannlockwood7806]

You just explained the reason why Jehovah’s Witnesses are discouraged from attending college. College helps you with your critical thinking.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@adrianagflores5587]

Maryann Lockwood also why they discourage socializing out of their religious circle.

[@RichardAlan]

HERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT GOD AND SATAN ARE REAL! THIS IS NO LONGER ARGUABLE! UNLESS YOU ARE DELUSSIONAL! If you watch this video in it's entirety, then you will understand the mystery of everything. In this video I provide visual and scriptural evidence that proves that we were all once angels from Heaven, that were led astray by Lucifer to this dimension, which is the flesh and the Human Host Body is being used to transmute Human Souls into a Serpent Scorpion Locust Race, that will be birthed from the bottomless pit in the end times. These new images include the full transmutation process; (Angel-Man-Larva-Death-Locust from within the Alter of St. Peter in the Vatican. I also provide visual evidence of who Abaddon, Apollyon, Satan, known as the Angel from the Bottomless Pit is, along with scriptural proof that Lucifer was the original “Builder” of the earth, and why he in known as the "Prince of the Power of the Air" and how He has deceived all of "You" into believing that GOD is not real. These are amazing revelations, and I give All Glory to the Lord God "El" for allowing me to show you this evidence. When you are finished watching this video you will know the Truth about your identity and will be without excuse for not turning to the Lord God. Because on the day when the Lord God judges you, He will say to you that you are without excuse, because His servant (Me) showed you the truth, but you chose not believe or watch this video. I pray that you will take the time to watch this video because it will explain everything throughout history and what's transpiring in the world today with this world-wide lockdown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-TnGqZpauIabs

[@adrianagflores5587]

Richard Montbleau I watched the video and it’s just a bunch of bible verses and video clips . You proved nothing .

[@Barbreck1]

@@RichardAlan No, I will NOT be watching your snake oil sales pitch. You lost me at "scriptural evidence"; scriptures are evidence only of scripture, they prove nothing.

[@deborahcadabra-w5z]

Richard MontBleu - how is providing evidence for your version of a sort of personally contemplated evil biblical truth by giving scriptural references ? All it proves is that you think it’s true. If you,provide evidence for your claims apart from scripture then I’ll maybe consider it. Meaning I will think about it. It’s like saying God made trees because we can climb them. Nonsensical evidence proving nothing.

[@AronRa]

Wait, you're not still a teenager now?

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

God damn it, Aron

[@TshaajThomas]

What in the hell.....

[@TheMasterHeisup]

Holy sh**, Aron

[@johnwood9203]

@white christian Its fake buddy. U can clearly see that the woman isn't talking. also isn't it a bit suss how the person filming is filming and not helping. and also suss how no nurses come running in after hearing that scream. Also no holy book mentions exorcisms or a demon being inside a person, so what exactly do u think is happening here.

[@johnwood9203]

@white christian first of all im of the views that there could be a god, im agnostic. however if the god of the bible is true im not bowing down to him as he condones slavery and condemn people to hell for ever. on the footage there seems to be so many assertions being taken into account when looking at this footage like he must of been scared, and the nurses don't know what to do. However why didn't the nurses run in when they heard a scream you didn't even hear any commotion even outside the room. And my other question is what exactly in ur eyes going on in this. is it the devil, is it a demon. if it was either one of those why re they trying to reveal themselves. I thought there whole thing was convincing people that god and themselves aren't real until its too late. and on the flip side if they in fact do want to prove they're existence, why don't they do this more often. there isn't any shortage of dead bodies. and if they have the power to do one why not more.

[@Centuries_of_Nope]

"So, what was the catalyst that made you an atheist?" "Essential oils." "Makes sense."

[@richardwilliamson1639]

It was the process of deception that started the process. The motive for that deception was profit.

[@annaaquitaine4225]

Lol is that a Pitch Meetings reference?

[@Centuries_of_Nope]

@@annaaquitaine4225 No actually, but making such a reference would be super easy, barely an inconvenience!

[@SujitKuRaita]

@@annaaquitaine4225 brother,you watch the video ,that heaven and hell ,,,kzbin.info/www/bejne/faS9dKKreN-HZrc

[@FlipjevanTiel]

Essential oils are probably not the only useless product that is sold to religious people. Salesmen love a target group that is incapable of recognizing false advertising.

[@edmundpotrzeba6094]

Intelligent, brave and beautiful that’s what you are. Listening to you is like listening to a Beethoven symphony. I’m 73 but it’s young men like you who will help the human race move out of ignorance and forward to something more beautiful. You have describes in 30 min what took me 20 years to uncover which will be of enormous help to those now seeking their own answers. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ but god loves you and there is nothing you can do about it , only kidding .

[@jimhappnin1425]

*"I’m 73 but it’s young men like you who will help the human race move out of ignorance and forward to something more beautiful."* It's people like him that will lead many people thru the gates of hell!! 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. THEREFORE: If you 'reject' the sacrifice made by Jesus the Messiah... you're going to receive 'exactly' what each and every one of us so richly 'deserves'! ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. And the wages of sin... is 'death'! So all you really have to look forward to... is 'eternal' death!! You still have time to change your mind. But only a very short time. It's all up to 'you'!

[@СинБорис]

Accusing people being liars and "antichrist" - that the way to hell.

[@ThomaceKisho]

She was referring to the way he promotes an understanding of another’s argument. That’s the opposite of ignorance- and understanding each other is a good thing- isn’t it?

[@jimhappnin1425]

@@Stolasthegaybird *"BY POSTING YOUR HATE COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO"* Hate??? Copy/paste my words of "hate". Or you may apologize. Your choice. *"YOU HAVE DONE THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO."* Good! Did I make you 'happy'?? Or are you more upset??

[@Aledjdjsk]

​@@jimhappnin1425your helping this atheist's video,you plank😂

[@markgearing]

“Why I’m an Atheist” TL:DR; I got an education

[@utccutdd1466]

@Johnny AppleStead All of the ideas you mention are universally accepted by actual scientists and people devote their life to this path. And there’s a reason for that. Throwing around word salads, or siting biased theist sources isn’t research, and it certainly isn’t disproving anything

[@utccutdd1466]

@Johnny AppleStead science is a government funded conspiracy? What are you on pal. I can in-fact reference the identities and research of scientists who’ve proved evolution, the Big Bang, heliocentrism, and gravity simply saying I cannot is not a valid argument

[@markgearing]

@Johnny AppleStead - Actually, heliocentricity, gravity, evolution and expansion are taught in all reputable courses where those topics are relevant. They’re not courses in their own right, much like hammering nails, driving screws and sawing wood aren’t courses in their own right but carpentry is. As for those science topics being unproven, I’m afraid that just highlights gaps in your own understanding. The more you understand of each of those topics, the more you realise that they are as close to being proven as science will ever allow itself to claim. As for sharing videos, try this one: Why incompetent people think they’re amazing - David Dunning kzbin.info/www/bejne/poCvnneVjLuMY6c

[@schmidtter7630]

@Johnny AppleStead Jesus talk about “blind faith”

[@magmathemagma]

@Johnny AppleStead i agree with everything you said mate 👍👍👍👌👏

[@indoorsandout3022]

Your journey was a lot faster than mine. I grew up in a cult. A lot of shit happened that shouldn't happen to anyone. My parents beat the f out of me because they thought I had a demon. I was just mentally ill. That's an important part of it. I started having symptoms of Schizophrenia and Asperger's syndrome around the age of 7. It must be said though that I was hyperlexic, I learned to read before I was old enough to attend kindergarten. Hell, I started reading college books before being enrolled in kindergarten. My grandma helped me with hard words and taught me to use the dictionary. Imagine my disgust and boredom when the aide for kindergarten wanted me to read a 1-line per page book. She accused me of not being able to read when I got upset. So I borrowed a book on education techniques from behind the teacher's desk and read it to her. That kind of sets the stage for later. From then until 2nd grade I was doing great in school, really just skating through like it was nothing. I was bored with it. Then my mom moved in with her boyfriend and my being different became a problem. Then we moved to Ohio to join a cult, they got married and Me and my new brothers got homeschooled. Things got really bad. We were super poor because my parents were giving a lot of their money to the cult, work was stressful, and we moved when we weren't financially able. The cult taught a strict hierarchy and my parents imposed it on us. I didn't fit in, and a head injury led to me getting schizo. My middle childhood and teen years were just swallowed up by the cult and the abuse, and our money was swallowed up by pyramid schemes and the cult. I went to high school, but my parents pulled me out to work for the family. I did paving. I was starting to ask questions though. I pulled a knife on my parents one time when they were going to beat me. They did anyways. But I was reaching my breaking point. I got away from my parents and the cult when I was 18. I didn't go to college. I moved in with my grandma. I was diagnosed with Complex PTSD. From 2008 to 2020, I mostly just dealt with my multiple mental illnesses. I have 6 total, It was a massive test of my ability to reason. I'm winning though. Also in that time, I cycled through 20 different religions. Just last October I tried to kill myself. That's also when I stopped being religious, but I was still believing, I was just angry at all the gods I'd ever known. None of them helped me. Around about my 14th psych hospitalization this past february, I was abused in the hospital. That's when I became an Apatheist. Because I no longer care if there is a god. They're one of 3 things: Nonexistent, impotent, or evil. I don't care which. I'll never pray again. It won't effect me either way, so it doesn't matter. In a total departure from faith, I signed up for university and I will be Majoring in Biology and Minoring in Botany. I also bought books on Evolution.

[@gregkelevra670]

Wow. Im so sorry for all the pain that youve went through. Nobody should have to go through that.

[@indoorsandout3022]

@@gregkelevra670 The really bad shit made me who I am today. It gave me empathy for people who struggle like this. I was thinking about all the shit that's happened, and I decided to change my major to Psychology. It would be a waste of this experience if I didn't help others with it. I had to learn a bunch of stuff the hard way, but that doesn't mean i have to stand idly by and watch the people in my area lose their shit. Knowledge should be shared. Cooperation is what makes our species so successful. The Russian naturalist Peter Kropotkin wrote a book over a hundred years ago called "Mutual Aid: A Factor In Evolution". While it contains dated terms about indigenous peoples, the man has a point that people who help each other increase their chances of passing down their genetics.

[@blockawocka4026]

I cried while reading your story. I feel very sad for your past and I hope you get the mental help you needed. But I’m happy for you majoring, keep going 😊

[@indoorsandout3022]

@@blockawocka4026 Thanks. I'm sorry for making you cry, it's not my intention. The switch to psychology is an opportunity to do more good for my community. It's also revenge after a manner. I've had people tell me I'm a drain on society and should be dead so I won't be a burden. I'm going to prove them wrong. I want to change the system so that other people aren't abused when they are just seeking help for a disease. I'm going to take market science too since it is the art of persuasion. I intend to do the necessary research and write books aimed at hospital administrators, politicians, the general public, and patients themselves and try to get everyone on board with reforms that prevent that kind of thing happening and that punish people who do it. I just want to hold people accountable for their actions when they are in a position of authority over people who are already suffering.

[@abdulgafoor9312]

May the real god the father in heaven not jesus but the god of jesus bless you and did you tried islam too

[@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe]

I am a Universalist and I LOVE your respectful way of talking about other faiths and your path to atheism. It's so respectful and compassionate. THIS is the sort of unity we need in life- regardless of others' views.

[@martykool]

Jesus is the only way to heaven

[@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe]

@@martykool Yet by the NT alone we know the Jews aren't forsaken and are blinded from seeing him. So if that's true, God is a monster creating a no-win situation from the people... OR Christian Evangelicalism is wrong that ONLY Christ is the way- cuz they deny He is the Word and that allows Jews and others to come TO him from that path. So are you ok with Jews NOT seeing him and being saved? As the NT says... or are you so hardline that ONLY that ONE path is right? Cuz you have to accept God is a lying monster that intentionally blinds His people to deny them the path after calling them forever, promising them forever, and then causing them to condemnation. Also, you DO realize that Universalism is what EVERY Christian doctrine taught until the evangelical craze in the late 1800's/early 1900's right? So like the last 100 or so years is the ONLY truth? Are you really sure about that? Cuz that denies literally 2000 years of Christian theology and history, too. Learn your own theology, your own contradictions, and your faith-history before you drop silly dogmatic comments like that.

[@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe]

​@James Henry Smith Are you calling the Pueblo people evil and demonic? Seriously?! Also, the term "anasazi" is a Navajo slander meaning "ancient enemy" to refer to the Pueblo peoples. So yeah... maybe you should like check your bigotry and irrationality before you make foolish comments like that. *smh*

[@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe]

@James Henry Smith Wow. You are so ignorant. FFS yo it's 2022, not the middle ages. FIRST, there are over 60k Pueblo people in over 30 communities still alive today. SECOND, this entire thinking is bigoted. If you are so obsessed with claiming demonic and evil- check your own hateful bigoted thinking, cuz you'll find it if you look in the mirror.

[@lurji]

@James Henry Smith james from team rocket was the better purple james. stfu k

[@silverback7783]

I went to Bible College and was a Theology major and I had two roommates. One was a Christian and the other one was an agnostic. One roommate argued with my other roommate, and the arguments I feel didn't end in love and respect for each other. I am Christian, and I am still a Christian to this day from childhood I have been attracted to the Love of Christ, but my arguments within my heart and mind do not end in me not respecting and loving anyone else. In fact many of the arguments in my heart and mind where not very loving towards myself and I had to learn and grow a lot to move past that and realize I cannot love others properly if I do not love myself. And at that the time I was very worried about my agnostics roomates salvation or at least what I considered to be salvation, but that was silly. I still Love both my roomates. There are many things I have learned and continue to learn, but I still have the same Truth of Love inside my heart that resonates with me that I first learned as a kid from reading my Bible. But I didn't grow up with the dogmatism of a certain type of Christian belief, because we all just kind of went to all the Christian churches in town when I was a kid because my family was kind of an outcast family we didn't really fit in our small town society in Northern Idaho. I am very glad that I ended up choosing the path of Love and Respect for others despite my own personal point of view. Because of this I can listen to every ones point of view and love them the same and learn from them. There are many wonderful and beautiful people out there with all shades of beliefs from gnostics to yogis to shamen to dogmatic atheists and agnostics to less dogmatic atheists and agnostics to very domgmatic Christians and Muslims and Hindus and Jews all the way to the less dogmatic not even interested in religion or spirituality types. In all of these people, you will find people who will help their neighbor in a time of need.

[@1thedanfan949]

Thats nice believe what you what to believe and be happy with it

[@tonybates7870]

When the religious call atheists "worldly people" I can't help thinking that they've hit on a subconscious truth: are they implying they've led a sheltered life and that's a big reason why they're believers?

[@clutchbridge]

That's an interesting observation, and I can't rule out some kind of subconscious second meaning there. I've definitely run across ideas that people outside of Christianity shouldn't really be listened to, leading to sheltered, seclusionist thinking. To my knowledge however, the term's origin and intended meaning comes from parts of the New Testament that refer to christians as belonging to God and the kingdom of heaven instead of this world: by contrast those not following Jesus are said to be of this world, or worldly. But meanings for words are different to different people. Some people may actually mean what you're saying.

[@lupilaargose3055]

Well what i've noticed is(this may or may not be true) most atheists just go on with their lives they don't have any obligation to others and don't care either. Whereas when ur religious there are something you have to follow and it helps gives meaning to your life whereas a life based on science is just blind.we've always internally no matter what place your from,looked for something beyond just us and I think that tells us something abt the existence of a superior being reffered to as god

[@Outcast115]

@@lupilaargose3055 I have found meaning perfectly fine on my own pretty pathetic that you need a imaginary friends to give your life meaning

[@Outcast115]

@@jiyamathew8015 No I haven't experienced a spiritual feelings because I am able to identify them as altered emotional states, you might know this if you ever decided to try drugs. Having an imaginary friend (or god) is simply the personification of those feelings.

[@Outcast115]

@@jiyamathew8015 Spiritualism, just like religion, is simply delusion.

[@Crispyrats]

I love how nobody mentioned that he casualy calculated the size of the universe by himself

[@colepriceguitar1153]

What do you believe about God?

[@etoiledufaucon5904]

Wich one ?

[@colepriceguitar1153]

@@etoiledufaucon5904 The Christian God. The only God.

[@KobKobold]

@@colepriceguitar1153 What proof do you have that he is the real god? Outside of the magic book he supposedly inspired.

[@ashiiu12]

@@colepriceguitar1153 bro why are you trying to witness religion to people under a video about being atheist on a video streaming website, don't you have better things to do like read your bible all day? or ignore the atrocities and predujices christians produce to minorities and non-believers daily by way of their beliefs? Or do you just like to spend your time arguing with those who want nothing to do with you or your religion just to appease your moral dilemna of having to spread the word to get into what you believe is eternal life. A word that has been discounted a multitude of times including in the sources listed in the description of this very video. "The only God"? Don't make me laugh. Go take an astronomy class like this guy did then come back to us.

[@olympickle_7037]

I like to keep my religion to my self in my personal life because when ever I come out as atheist everyone attacks me and tries to prove that their beliefs are better than mine. I’ve had so many people that say things like “god can still save you” what if I don’t want to be saved? They act as if being Christian make you good. If your god if pointing a gun at your head so your good, are you really good?

[@olympickle_7037]

Kelsey Hay watch it just be some prank some kids threw 2000 years ago and they just wrote a book

[@kelseyhay7074]

Olympickle /\///\/_//\ haha😂 imagine though👀

[@alhamdleallah]

وَجَاء مِنْ أَقْصَى الْمَدِينَةِ رَجُلٌ يَسْعَى قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اتَّبِعُوا الْمُرْسَلِينَ And there came a man running from the farthest part of the town. اتَّبِعُوا مَن لاَّ يَسْأَلُكُمْ أَجْراً وَهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ Obey those who ask no wages of you وَمَا لِي لاَ أَعْبُدُ الَّذِي فَطَرَنِي وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ "It would not be reasonable in me if I did not serve Him Who created me, and to Whom ye shall (all) be brought back. أَأَتَّخِذُ مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً إِن يُرِدْنِ الرَّحْمَن بِضُرٍّ لاَّ تُغْنِ عَنِّي شَفَاعَتُهُمْ شَيْئاً وَلاَ يُنقِذُون ِ"Shall I take (other) gods besides Him? If (Allah) Most Gracious should intend some adversity for me, of no use whatever will be their intercession for me, nor can they deliver me. إِنِّي إِذاً لَّفِي ضَلاَلٍ مُّبِينٍ "I would indeed, if I were to do so, be in manifest Error. إِنِّي آمَنتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ فَاسْمَعُونِ "For me, I have faith in the Lord of you (all): listen, then, to me!" قِيلَ ادْخُلِ الْجَنَّةَ قَالَ يَا لَيْتَ قَوْمِي يَعْلَمُونَ It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- بِمَا غَفَرَ لِي رَبِّي وَجَعَلَنِي مِنَ الْمُكْرَمِينَ "For that my Lord has granted me Forgiveness and has enrolled me among those held in honour!" Quran. Islam kzbin.info/www/bejne/laiVqnpnl6l9nNE

[@screamingroomba3535]

@@alhamdleallah hey want to tell ya a secret, no one fucking cares and your god have been debunked many times

[@jaazmin7781]

@@kelseyhay7074 If God created male and female to be together and have children, it makes total sense that we should stick to that. Are you also defending pedophiles? Or people who do it with animals? I don't know where you are coming from, but propably most of your values base on Christian values. Many laws lean on them.

[@asilnorahc8910]

My parents were raised christians, but they had they never practiced christianity much to begin with, and didn't believe - so they never raised me nor my sisters under religion. I was raised atheist, and although I do not think the existence of a god to be impossible, i don't feel the need to believe in any religion or any god. If a god exists, and if the afterlife is a thing, then we're all gonna find out eventually. Hearing about the experience of a newly atheist raised in a very religious home is very interesting to me - this is just a life that i never imagined before. And learning about others' experience can only make me more empathetic and better overall. Your channel is a gem. Even though I don't relate to your, and a lot of your audience's struggle, it is very interesting. (I live in France, and although religion is a thing there too, France takes Laïcity to a T, church is strictly separated to all things public and political, so I actually never encountered a french iteration of a conservative religious group here. Not that it doesn't exist, there must be some, but i never met any personally.) Your channel helps me contextualize a lot of what I hear about America and the experiences of a lot of my american friends.

[@maybeonemore]

When I was 12...I'm 53 now. I was in bible class at my high school. I was given a comic book about Noah's ark and the flood. There was a image in it that I couldn't shake. A hand holding a crying infant over the rising rising water. Well it started me thinking how my loving god could witness desperate parents trying to save their children from drowning could allow it. At that age I was thinking I couldn't do that...so maybe he's wrong. I kept my thoughts to myself but over the course of my life...I kept going to church and it's all I could think. It's wrong. That's cruel. This makes no sense. But I stayed in church. By the time I was forty I was able to say enough is enough because of Julia Sweeney's letting go of god. I wish now I had walked out of bible class when I was 12. It's like I always knew it. I didnt need evolution or the big bang...I just knew it but I couldn't let go till I realized I wasn't alone. Thanks Julia.

[@DrownedInExile]

@Tim Webb Spare us your tiresome preaching. We've heard it all before.

[@DrownedInExile]

@Tim Webb You don't know dick, jack, or squat about me. So don't presume to tell me what I do or don't understand.

[@DrownedInExile]

@Tim Webb Oh is that what I am? Then you'll be needing an adult to help you read the bigger words.

[@BigHeretic]

*maybeonemore* You have illustrated clearly why we have no need for a god and why it's better that that god at least doesn't exist.

[@DrownedInExile]

@Tim Webb Thanks! I do my best :)

[@photonrayswaves]

“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!” ― George Carlin

[@moatasemkassab4517]

Ex-Muslim here, George Carlin is one of my favorite stand-up comedians along with Dave Chappelle, this quote pertains a lot to the current Islamic theocracies in the East : ).

[@marlacce7037]

The Money part and the suffering part till the end of time aren't true. Yes sinners will burn and die, it is the second death not the second life. People's belief of a hell where bad people are immortal and suffer without ever dying is taken from Greek mythology. God doesn't need your money, tithe was to be given to help other people, the needy in society, the orphans and the widows, if a person serving the church uses the money for their own personal gain then they are no better than Pharisees...hope this helps

[@LoveWillFindU]

@willis ace where do you get the concept that hell is not eternal? Like what scriptures are you referring to? Just curious not meant to be rude.

[@abdulgafoor9312]

No islam does not teaches that

[@abdulgafoor9312]

@@moatasemkassab4517 what made you leave

[@Romdryl]

It's amazing what an education can do for a person, such as open their eyes.

[@vhawk1951kl]

inded nothing destroys intelligence as quickly and effectively as 'education', or being stuffed with otherpeoples'infomation; no wonders it produces credulous dolts.

[@jimhappnin1425]

@@vhawk1951kl Lol!! You're absolutely correct!! "Education" destroys intelligence!! I wish I had thought of that!!

[@georgepetrou501]

@@vhawk1951kl whar?

[@vhawk1951kl]

​@The Femur Thief I'll let you into a secret: I don't give a shit about the opinions of frustrated old women women

[@jimhappnin1425]

@The Femur Thief What if we do?? What's it to you?? Let's just have a 'peek' at what stupidity you had to say to @Peter Codner, shall we??? *"Your own credulity in a book written by several men multiple millennia ago across many centuries in (I'm fairly sure) multiple different languages"* Here is a little something you're obviously 100% 'ignorant' of. The bible is 66 books by at least 40 authors over a period of 1500 years, all telling the very same story. So it is NOT a matter of "credulity"... it's a matter of 'evidence'! Something you do NOT have for your "religious" belief in atheism. You "believe thru faith" that this earth with all its life was created by an 'inanimate' object WITHOUT any particular reason and WITHOUT the power of 'intelligent' thought... WITHOUT a single shed of evidence!! Not THAT'S what I would call "credulity"!! And I'm afraid this 'undeniable' FACT just proceeds to further the point that you have either been indoctrinated, or simply have not received any form of quality education! 🤣🤣 Now I'm going to give you the 'undeniable' proof of the existence of God. All life on earth contains DNA... which is 'information'... which can ONLY originate within an 'intelligent' mind! THEREFORE: God MUST exist! The bible tells us that God created all life on earth by means of His 'intelligence', and we can SEE the 'evidence' of Gods intelligence in the 'information' found in the DNA of every living thing on earth! That means there is 'evidence' for the existence of God. Since you "claim" to be so highly educated... why don't you tell me what "science'" has to say about the origin of life on earth? But you can't... so you wont. You "believe" in atheism thru 'ignorance' and NOT thru knowledge! And yet... you have the raw nerve to accuse someone else of being 'uneducated'??? I got a new name for you. It's "Bonehead"! It's a 'fitting' title for you!!! HA HA HA HA!!

[@ScuddotWobbrel]

Hey Drew, I'm also Drew, and that fact made watching your video very surreal. I have been going through exactly what you are describing. The similarities are so plentiful that I was kind of shocked. I want to thank you for this video as it helped me feel a bit less crazy. I was talking with my sister a few days ago about how I'm leaving the faith and used most of the reasons you talked about here. As I was watching this video I began to feel a lot better as I heard you more or less use the same reasoning I have been using over that last few weeks.

[@trevorswanson4077]

This is intelligent, honest, and brave, which makes it both rare and inspirational. Thanks.

[@usersdksdfg]

Trevor Swanson there's literally millions of athiests like this

[@RichardAlan]

HERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT GOD AND SATAN ARE REAL! THIS IS NO LONGER ARGUABLE! UNLESS YOU ARE DELUSSIONAL! If you watch this video in it's entirety, then you will understand the mystery of everything. In this video I provide visual and scriptural evidence that proves that we were all once angels from Heaven, that some rebelled and other were led astray by Lucifer to this dimension, which is called "the flesh" and the Human Host Body is being used to transmute Human Souls into a Serpent Scorpion Locust Race, that will be birthed from the bottomless pit in the end times. These images include the full transmutation process; (Angel-Man-Larva-Death-Locust from within the Alter of St. Peter in the Vatican. The Devil's Church! I also provide visual evidence of who Abaddon, Apollyon, Satan, known as the Angel from the Bottomless Pit is, along with scriptural proof that Lucifer was the original “Builder” of the earth, and why he in known as the "Prince of the Power of the Air" and how He has deceived all of "You" into believing that GOD is not real. These are amazing revelations, and I give All Glory to the Lord God "El" for allowing me to show you this evidence. When you are finished watching this video you will know the Truth about your identity and will be without excuse for not turning to the Lord God. Because on the day when the Lord God judges you, He will say to you that you are without excuse, because His servant (Me) showed you the truth, but you chose not believe or watch this video. I pray that you will take the time to watch this video because it will explain everything throughout history and what's transpiring in the world today with this world-wide lockdown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-TnGqZpauIabs

[@kapridus1144]

Richard Montbleau You can’t force anyone to be Christian. People have their own beliefs.

[@Tibet2485]

@@kapridus1144 one thing i hate about them (christian) is they influence other people and they say youre going to hell if you dont believe in god...i mean like just believe whatever you want.

[@kapridus1144]

Vergil I got told that many times. I even told my ex best friend that I have become an atheist. Like us atheists don’t believe in heaven or hell.

[@__-tz6xx]

What really killed all supernatural beliefs was learning psychology and that people are naturally social and will do mental gymnastics to conform to the values and beliefs of those closest to them so that they can socialize, be protected in a group, and find a mate to produce offspring. Social bias is so strong within religious people. I find it much more believable that someone would make up stories of the afterlife to gain social status and will twist scientific findings to fit their stories than if there is an afterlife. People's behavior and therefore societies behavior is molded from the reward system in which social bonding is found to be a highly pleasurable and sought out reward whereas loneliness is painful. There is no wonder why so many people conform.

[@Tasorius]

And it seems their legacy is that people who leave religions start despising it so much that they don't even want there to be an afterlife... They become nihilists in their attempt to go as far away from religions as possible, and thus going to the other extreme... That's why Agnosticism is the better way to go...

[@nancymencke6980]

There are so many more atheists in the shadows I wish we would come out

[@richrichy3015]

We are growing. Long way to go, but we are growing. When i was little, i do not remember anyone i knew as an atheist. Everyone was religious. The only thing i remember about atheism at that age is how the church tried to push their views of atheists down our throats. Called atheists evil and consumed by the fictional "devil". I know plenty of people that are atheist now. The more mankind learns, the more technology grows and the more science evolves, the more and more atheism will grow. Mankind will not live in the shadows of ignorance and arrogance forever. You have to think that one day religion will just be something that is studied as something earlier man latched onto. That will be way, way in the future though, i think....if we make it that far. Mankind probably has to get through many more religions and many more made up gods before then.

[@torontoash45]

you come out . we expose you to the light and like usual you retreat back into the shadows

[@richrichy3015]

@@torontoash45 You don't even make sense. Looks like you need to be exposed to an education.

[@torontoash45]

really? my education is alot better than yours Mr Atheist

[@richrichy3015]

@@torontoash45 So, you are just lazy then?

[@barrylyndongurley]

Hats off to you Drew for your courage, determination and willingness to share your story. Thank you!

[@anitahamlin2411]

I do remember that the first time I expressed my questions of god I looked around waiting to be struck by lightning!

[@toni4729]

Were you struck?

[@snackz9400]

I come to find out tht god actually wants you to question him

[@ChrisSmith-xh9wb]

God loves you too much to strike you with lightning for asking questions . On the contrary, we are told on the New testament to "test everything" . You should accept nothing you are told without thoroughly investigating it and weighing up alternative perspectives.

[@roems6396]

Chris Smith There would be a lot less theists if that were true. Most Christians have no clue what the Bible says, the origins of their religion, or the reasons why it should not be accepted.

[@jackbond5348]

'opinions' Ro Ems Most people are opinionated, and examples of hypocrisy within the uneducated intellectually challenged delusional wannabe atheists world are those who celebrate Christmas. As for your opinion that most Christians don't understand the Bible, based on your logic it's blatantly obvious that you haven't got a bloody clue what any of the UNLETTERED messages in God's Word pertain to, and besides, scripture indicated this 'blessed are those who believed without seeing" And knowing that these next few excerpts from scripture will go over your head, I've included them for others reading. "The blind will see, and all those who have made a great pretence of seeing, will be made blind" God was pleased they preached foolishness and things that are not, and God's foolishness is wiser than men" "A fool is wise in his own eyes" #WWJD #atheistFAGS #boycottCHRISTMAS

[@blaster-zy7xx]

Great video. My conversion started from the great Carl Sagan when I watched the original Cosmos series decades ago. Glad to see another generation go through the the same exploration and coming to the same conclusion.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

That’s awesome! Sagan was the man

[@bradmodd7856]

People damaged by religion make the most badass atheists. I am not concerned with finding the creator of the universe....whether it be an unfathomable cold mindless force, or an intelligent entity....this isn't the most profound question. What are we caught up in; that is the big question.....assuming there is a collective unconscious that thinks as one entity, a sentient conscious entity on a metaphysical journey through space and time, this is the real. Humanity is like a god in space, powerful and good, able to transcend our own pain and trouble.

[@raysalmon6566]

Clearly????

[@pounceonyou1958]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/baHOaqJ6p9WZbM0&ab_channel=DiscoveryScience

[@blaster-zy7xx]

@@pounceonyou1958 I've seen Stephen Meyer many times before and I'm thoroughly not impressed. His arguments are just as old and flawed as previous arguments for God, just told better. He cherry picks myths in the Bible that have parallels to scientific knowledge, but pretends away Biblical myths that have been demonstrated to be profoundly wrong. He makes classic arguments from ignorance "I don't know how X could occur naturally, therefore God, and not just any God, but MY favorite flavor of magic Biblical deity." The Discovery Institute is religious apologetics and about as reliably accurate as a Facebook meme. Dawkins, Sagan, Degrass Tyson, and Krauss are ones to learn from; not Meyers.

[@adamchovanec5010]

I was born and live in the Czech republic, a secular country with great atheist majority. I've never believed in any god, not once did I pray, not once did I feel ashamed for who I am. From my very young age I was fascinated in science. I live as millions of people around the globe do. Without any god, yet deeply rooted in the empathy, rationality, love, compassion and family. I'm an atheist and secular humanist.

[@Yameen200]

If theres no god, your empathy etc has no lasting consequences. Its simply an evolutionary trait to making yourself feel good. Without god morality is an illusion, a simple social norm that makes ppl happy, but actual morality requires someone to be accountable to

[@kaet8333]

I was born right next door in Poland, and honestly I'm jealous. Almost everyone in here belives in god, but me and my older brother are atheists. I remember asking my mom why he abandoned church at one point and she said she didn't know but she accepted his decision. I didn't tell my parents about it but I made it clear that I don't want to go to church and when one time my father wanted to take me and my mom but I didn't want to go and I got yelled at by him before he left. My older brother defended me and my parents went without me. I havent been forced to go to church since.

[@theelite9275]

I'm so jealous.. can you guys invade my country 🤔😂

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@Yameen200, I would highly recommend you start with George R. Price, who applied game theory to natural selection (You'll find a great start on that in Wikipedia)... What Price provided was a mathematical and statistical model to show that altruism (selflessness and charity to others) creates a self-serving cycle for the genes to be preserved in a herd, culture, or societal structure. The short example of it, is something like this... You see a child fall into a river, and without regard for your own safety (It being a dangerous river) You jump in and rescue the child. This fortunate event is then relayed (by the child if nobody else) to the parents, who spread word of your heroics (altruism or doing the "right" thing)... AND others gain respect for you. YOU now become a more prestigious person to that family, and their friends... AND they will do things to see to it you get provisions when possible... BECAUSE, they also understand this fundamental principle, and wish to gain YOUR respect too... It builds prestige in THEIR genetics and creates more opportunities to be passed to the next generations... It can be mapped out as Karma, Prestige, "what goes around comes around", or any of myriad other societal constructs as vague or intangible as you like, BUT Price built mathematical models for it and Proved It back in the 1970's. Morals may well be some intangible bullshit, but the fact remains that they are socio-centric principles we all CHOOSE to live by if and as we CHOOSE to live and stay within society. Good luck with your "no consequences" theory. ;o)

[@ChrisSmith-xh9wb]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 I am not sure how far simplistic mathematical models such as this work on real life situations. A soldier who brutally murders all the males of an enemy tribe and then rapes their wives and daughters is going to pass more of his genes to the next generation than the peace-loving men he has killed. Personally I choose to look to the teachings of Jesus Christ for moral guidance rather than trusting my genes or anyone elses.

[@fredjohnson6794]

Good job Drew!! Science teacher for 29 years, but was raised the same as you. Converted to Catholicism and later an Episcopalian. Almost became a priest. Two science degrees and it took me until the age of 51 to get out from under it all!! Hats off to you for being so open minded!

[@GnosticLucifer]

I don't have a story like that, I'm 16 and I've an atheist as long as I can remember

[@edsonduran2025]

@@mariag8806 Not necessarily, and why risk an eternity in hell? Its very stubborn and ignorant to me because even if Christianity was false I wouldnt be able to realize it if atheism was true because I wouldnt carry my own consciousness, so I would never be able to understand If I was in heaven or not, so to me its less of a risk.

[@edsonduran2025]

@@mariag8806 Im willing to debate about this if you’d like on discord.

[@fsplace1238]

@@edsonduran2025 so basically god sends you to eternal suffering because you didnt think he exists? seems like a pretty bad person for me

[@dragasinbrankovic]

@@mariag8806 Brain is overrated.

[@sonsoflight4430]

You think of God as a person like a dog would think God a dog, or as the horse thinks God a horse. Lol. Everything is made of the exact same thing which is nothing. From nothing to energy to particle to atom to stuff on and on. So True God would be the nothing and the energy and all that proceeds from it. Right? Question and search always. Find truth in the study of all things know and unknown.

[@AmberyTear]

My family wasn't imposing any particular beliefs on me however I grew up in Poland, an entirely strongly catholic country. God and stories from the Bible were constantly present on polish language lessons, history and of course in Poland, in every EVERY public school, they have catholic indoctrination classes specifically. And usually only 1-3 kids in whole school don't attend them. At best. While as a kid I wasn't giving it much thought, in middle school we learned the story of Abraham willing to sacrifice his son for the God. Teacher then ask them what we think. I answered that it's an awful story, awful parent and awful God and it shows how to NOT act as a parent and how to NOT act as God. Those weren't opinions of my parents or any of my friends, it just seemed obvious to me. The teacher was in deep shock, other kids too and she started arguing me on it and trying to convince me that I'm wrong. I became scared being in a presence of a woman who would kill her kids if she started hearing voices from supposed god. And I was scared that, apperently, other kids seemed to just silently agree with her or they didn't even think to question that story. That was probably the beginning of my journey into science, atheism, antitheism and satanist philosophy. Also, Poland continuously shows no respect for women and catholic church plays a big role in it so I think it's a civic duty to stand against them. I think that we must battle dogma and organized religion as it all only exist to maintain control, wealth and power. I avoid attacking anyone as an individual on their beliefs but I will always attack the institutions.

[@JanKowalski-tj8gl]

hello there! i'm from Poland as well and i can totally relate to your way of thinking. the catholic indoctrination classes are something that i still have to endure because i was pressured into taking them by my family. (it's mostly just our priest ranting about politics, which is a waste of time, but my family can't really understand that.) i'm sooo glad that i only have a few months of school left and that there are no catholic indoctrination classes at universities. other than that, i wish more people were supportive of the separation of church and state around here. the church has WAY TOO MUCH influence on politics in Poland.

[@AmberyTear]

@@JanKowalski-tj8gl absolutely. Frankly, this church is an offence to the people's faith and I never see it showing any shame or human decency. They only care about themselves like it's a separate, parasitic country with it's own business in mind.

[@SimMess]

@Mark81150 Yes, because every slave needs something to believe in, to keep him sane in his terrible position. Some believe in Jesus, some believed in Lenin (later Stalin), others believe in Krishna, Allah, Zeus, Thor and so on.Different cults, same reasons - need for hope and better life here on earh or after death.

[@Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear]

@Mark81150 "Only Christianity pushes humans towards doing good for it's own sake.. not merely looking out for just yourself.." Sure, because trying to avoid hell and get into heaven isn't looking out for just yourself, it's doing good for its own sake... And by the way, it was funny tosee you argue first how few atheists are (when the current rate of atheists is probably the highest in history) and then ask why they didn't lead any movement.

[@johnlinden7398]

JUST TO SAY, BRAVO TO YOU !

[@r1verman]

In 2016 my twenty year old nephew committed suicide. He was smart and kind. He didn't use drugs or alcohol. He was in college, doing well, and wanted to become a math professor. My family was completely at a loss and totally in shock. My sister, his mother would say he left this world because he was too good for it. Eight months after his suicide, my mother died suddenly and unexpectedly. Through the grieving process I went through so many emotions about everything. During the later part of 2016 and into 2017 I started questioning my faith in God. I was very angry with God and my faith began to weaken. In 2021 I tried going back to church to rededicate my life back to God. I just didn't feel it though. I then started researching a bit more. I started looking into history and found so many horrible things that had been done in the name of God. Things in the bible as well as many other recorded events. All of a sudden religion just became silly and archaic. I've also suffered from depression throughout my life. I've sought help from God as well as church. Never helped. What did help was me taking initiative to consult with my doctor so he could provide proper medication and talking with professionals such as psychiatrists, psychologists and therapists that helped me work through my own problems. Just in the last month I started saying that I am an atheist. So far, I feel relief and good about this direction my life is taking. I guess the hardest thing is that all of my family past & present identify as Christians, so now I feel a bit of an outsider and alienated. But I think I felt that way before anyway.

[@jimhappnin1425]

The death of loved ones is hard. But if you have rejected the sacrifice of Jesus the Messiah, then you're on your way to hell. You don't need the "church". All you need to do is read the bible for yourself. You will then find understanding. But if you don't 'want' what Jesus the Messiah has to offer... then no one is going to "force" it upon you. You are free to pay for your own sin. And as you already know... the wages of sin... is eternal death. So it's all up to you. Jesus the Messiah gave His 'sinless' life in exchange for your sin... and mine! Reject His sacrifice at your own peril. It's YOUR choice! NOT Gods!

[@druidriley3163]

@@jimhappnin1425 - man is explaining his life's pain and you just condemned him to eternal damnation. No wonder he gave up his faith. How horrible of an attitude toward someone in pain.

[@jimhappnin1425]

@@druidriley3163 *"man is explaining his life's pain and you just condemned him to eternal damnation."* Wrong! I did NOT condemn anyone for anything! I am simply 'warning him... and 'you'... of the consequences of your 'actions'. If you 'reject' the God of the bible... then the God of the bible has no other choice but to 'reject' you! Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee" You can still go to heaven if you 'want' to, but there is NOT much time left. Heaven or hell is 'your' choice. NOT Gods!

[@druidriley3163]

@@jimhappnin1425 - is that what Jesus would have wanted you to do? Warn him about eternal suffering? Or would he have wanted you to show him love and compassion and empathy?

[@jimhappnin1425]

@@druidriley3163 *"is that what Jesus would have wanted you to do?'8 ANSWER: Yep! It's what Jesus 'commanded' us to do! Mark 16:15-16 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. *"Warn him about eternal suffering?"* ANSWER: Yep! Because people like you are walking right into eternal suffering through your 'ignorance'!! You have never read the bible for yourself and therefore have absolutely no idea what the bible actually says. But you're going to argue that the bible is false... even thought you know absolutely 'nothing' about it?? *"Or would he have wanted you to show him love and compassion and empathy?"* If you think my 'warning' you of the consequences of your 'ignorant actions is NOT a example of my love and compassion and empathy for your 'eternal' happiness... then 'you' don't know what love and compassion and empathy actually means! Jesus the Messiah sacrificed His 'sinless' life in exchange for your sin... and mine! But if you don't 'want' the forgiveness Jesus sacrificed His 'sinless' life to attain... for 'you'... then no one is going to "force" His forgiveness upon you. You are free to pay for your own sin. And we all know, the wages of sin... is 'death'! No one is "forcing" you to reject Jesus the Messiah. You do that of your own 'freewill'. It's a choice you made for 'yourself'. There is no one else to blame!

[@fancymonkeyman4139]

It's scary how much this reminds me of what I went through in my early 20s.

[@sammysam2615]

I'm an atheist due to asking myself, why would I play a card game knowing the deck is fixed? If this God is perfect, then why not just speak souls into existence to worship you instead of all this crazy confusing shit called life? It didn't make sense to me so I walked away

[@LemonSte]

God likes the chase I guess??? 😂😂😂😂 Fml

[@gabrielaiell0]

You're an atheist because you don't know God

[@Syrph.]

@@gabrielaiell0 Of course he doesn't know God, God won't talk to anybody!

[@machintelligence]

@@gabrielaiell0 I know what the God of the bible purports to be, and I wouldn't worship a miserable deity like that if you paid me.

[@gabrielaiell0]

@@Syrph. when you say talk what do you you mean?

[@paulbeck5941]

I questioned my Christian beliefs many times as a child and young adult. I clung to my convictions so long because the people that I respected always answered me in ways that made no sense and this caused me to doubt my own intelligence. I began to think that I just didn't understand and that I was deficient or stupid. Even though I am aware that the people I'm referring to had well-meaning intent behind their words, I hold a fair amount of resentment. It feels like so much of my life was wasted chasing knowledge that wasn't there. Now, at 28 years of age, I'm where I should have been academically when I was 20, or even younger. Thank you so much for making videos and talking about these topics. You, Rationality Rules, Mr. Atheist, Matt Dillahunty, Holy Koolaid, and several others have phenomenally inspired me. I'm now pursuing my dream of turning my hobby of fact-checking and educating into a full-time reality. Currently, I am filming, or rather, attempting to shoot footage for my own KZbin channel. I hope to be half of the inspiration to someone that I've found through so many brilliant and caring minds as I've experienced on this platform. Again, thank you so much for doing what you do.

[@thomasruwart1722]

When I was 5 or 6 years old I remember asking my dad, a devout Catholic, how God could be everywhere at the same time. Never got a good answer, just "you have to have faith". And that was his answer for all the preplexing questions I would ask. After 12 years of Catholic schools and irritating the clergy by asking those same questions over and over, I finally came to the conclusion that they just did not know. This confirmed my long held suspicion that God was imaginary. I guess I have always been an atheist without actually knowing it. I sure pissed off many a nuns and priests with my *attitude problem* though and it always felt good when I did. Being in my mid sixties now, I find that I am more diplomatic about my atheism that I proudly wear as a badge of honor but only bring it up when asked - god forbid I become an evangelical atheist ;^)

[@goodcatholicboyowo4121]

Thomas Ruwart it’s a shame but the issue is that religion is pretty complicated even for most clergy. To explain how it is that God is everywhere to a child would be rough because you have to get into aristotelian/platonic metaphysics that have to do with being and the distinctions between essence and existence, act and potency, and how atemporality and immateriality work. It’s all really complicated stuff.

[@CountCulture27]

Hellos, Sir. In the Gospels, John 14, Jesus says he will leave a counselor with the disciples. This is the Holy Spirit. God leaves part of himself with all believers. To me this is a probable way he is able to be all places at once.

[@goodcatholicboyowo4121]

Brett Almond hello friend, I’ve studied a bit of theology and typically what is meant by God being everywhere is that He permeates all of reality and all things, to the extent they are good, participate in His nature. It is more so that since He is the most fundamental principle of reality, That He is unconditioned being, all of reality is based on and in Him.

[@CountCulture27]

I can go with that. Thanks for sharing.

[@soarrogant3565]

Thomas Ruwart god can be in multiple places at once because god isn’t human you’re thinking with you human Brain which is limited just like how you can’t see past a certain point like you can’t hear past a certain point

[@yusufgazi7]

Why are people so happy to call astrology and essential oils and crystals BS but get offended when you say the same about religion

[@yusufgazi7]

All of them are BS

[@jimhappnin1425]

@@yusufgazi7 I agree!! But they all entail an 'intelligent' God. Atheism says that all life created 'itself'. There is no God. The problem with your "religious" belief, is that it is 100% un-justifiable! You can't 'justify' what you "believe" to be true! Atheism is the most ridiculous "religion" ever!! P.S The bible is NOT a "religion".

[@jasonmiears8323]

Working backward through your catalogue. This, in broad terms, mirrors my own experience. I had a very patient and long suffering atheist friend who (while never judging me whichever direction I went) supported me in my journey. For myself, it was the (almost painful) decoupling of my Christian identity from my own sense of self that was the hardest. I knew what my family would think, I knew what my current, primarily Christian, friend group would think; and I was scared of that...hurt by it. It is strange to think about now, in retrospect, but the day I said out loud (alone in my room) "I...don't think I believe in Jesus anymore." was actually terrifying for someone had placed so much value in that before. I remember actually holding my breath, for what seemed like an eternity, waiting for something bad to happen as a result of that declaration. That was more than 20 years ago. The biggest realization came when I realized how little the core of who I was (or felt I was) would change (this is not a universal outcome, it just was in my case and might be for others). I think my happiest moment was when my Dad (still very much a fundamentalist Christian) was sitting across the table from me just staring at my face (clearly in deep thought). I smirked and asked what was up. He said "You present a challenge to me. I know you said you are an Atheist but I think you are such a good, moral, upstanding man and I am proud of you...that challenges my notion of what an Atheist is."

[@traumatizednewt104_4]

hahaha i am horribly excited to have the same effect on my family. the inconsistencies like atheists being super loving people also made me question a lot. so now that I've told my family im atheist, im excited for them to see how im still happy and loving but actually even more so. how will they reconcile that information with their current conclusions? I really just hope to help people. also, the thing where, if my belief makes my life better, even if its false, then it really harms no one to believe in it.. i must say the thing is. they attributed things like love to the God in our hearts as a Christian. but that love stayed even when i stopped praying or really believing in a God. it made me feel like they might have taken feelings common to human beings and spiritualized them as evidence of God. ?? thats said im going to try to be more patient and less excited. to show them a consistent acceptance. because i might be met with opposition and disbelief if i am too straightforward. i will trust in time, that the inconsistencies they find will stay in their mind as questions until they start to find more and more holes in their belief. after all thats how it all started for me. maybe i can only get them to love me as a person and thats fine too. if i cant make the question their beliefs ill at least be happy if they accept me as a valid, loving person who happens to be atheist

[@AlokKumar-tk1ty]

@@traumatizednewt104_4 same same 😀

[@darcy6517]

@@traumatizednewt104_4 🤣🤣🤣 Hilarious.

[@darcy6517]

Your writing is getting worse.

[@darcy6517]

@@traumatizednewt104_4 Your comments are ridiculous.

[@dhardy7318]

I grew up in a religious family. As a young child, I could never fathom that people who committed murder could be simply accepted into the kingdom of heaven if they confessed to their sin, ask for forgiveness and accepted Jesus into their heart. That is not fair, not one bit! I struggled most of my adult life with religion. It never resonated in my heart as truth. I finally said to myself, no more bullshit. I trust in my own thought process. I have been looking up other like minded people and am completely relieved to find others that think the way I do. I have found peace in myself since I’ve quite torchering myself with religion.

[@bluwng]

Alex Qua so how is it handles in your new belief? So many people get away with murder and rape.

[@bluwng]

Why are you surprised, everyone thinks like you, people want freedom to do as they believe. Don't call on God if some thug beats you and tries to rape you, don't do things out of convenience.

[@ericmoore6769]

When i was 14, i went to a new church. I sat in on the adult Sunday school. "Hitler is in heaven, and Ghandi is in Hell", was the topic. They didn't buy it. I was shocked. That was my first step toward my Total Atheism.

[@mrspybes8502]

you gotta watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4vcl4KXlLaYl5Y

[@bluwng]

Σאgßと if he was an actual prophet, if they even exist today, I doubt they would do that but if they did, it's between them and God. People are always confused and scared, most are simple minded but all think they have the answers to the universe when it comes to talking. See how people walk the walk not talk the talk.

[@setheninsendgame]

Not sure you will ever see this, but it was because of your channel and this video that helped me understand my own deconstruction. I had such a negative stigma towards atheists and was completely unaware anyone else would leave their faith for rational reasons (I thought they were only ever mad at god or wanted to sin - so embarrasing to admit that now!). Your channel opened my eyes to the incredible stories of so many others leaving their faith and helped me accept being a new atheist myself. From this video I began to discover other atheist channels (e.g., Aron Ra) and was open to hearing their perspectives. This channel and this video in particular was a gateway to a brand new world for me. I can't thank you enough.

[@setheninsendgame]

@user-se6oh4sj5u I've read those verses many, many times. I'm curious how you go about determining that the bible is the correct holy book. What criteria do you use to evaluate whether a holy book actually describes what god is like? What criteria indicates that a holy book is not inspired from god? Imagine you found a holy book that was written by a god (you could tell somehow, it was glowing or something), how would you know that was an accurate reflection of that god and he/she wasn't actually deceiving people by writing false information in that book?

[@MontycelA]

@@setheninsendgame I agree, you gotta read at least a few other holy books before determining the Bible’s true. To be fair though, the Bible’s been mistranslated over and over again so it should 100% never be taken literally.

[@topologyrob]

Keep going, eventually you outgrow atheism too. I "deconstructed" decades ago, then grew up.

[@BurntCookiesYT]

@@topologyrob I'm curious, no need to tell me if you find it personal, but was this conversion done mostly from a emotional experience?

[@topologyrob]

@@BurntCookiesYT No

[@jaybickford512]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but your deconversion story is very much a mirror of mine, you just did it much earlier in your life than I did. I was 47 when I finally allowed myself to entertain the question, "What if none of this is true?" That led me on a multi-month dive into questioning everything I had ever believed about the very nature of reality. Like you, I ultimately came to call myself an Agnostic Atheist, which I also believe best describes where I am currently on these topics. In any case, thanks for putting this video together. If it ever comes up, I am very likely to share this video with others who wonder why I am no longer a believer. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@MrMarco855]

You did the exact wrong thing. Instead of questioning God, you should question everything human beings do and say. They will lie, cheat and betray you, God will not.

[@jaybickford512]

@MrMarco855 - Well, that's basically what I did, but I went one step further than most believers will allow themselves to go and allowed myself to question the very foundations of my faith, and that was to question those who claimed to have being speaking for God in the first place, which include those who wrote the Bible. What I found wasn't a Holy book written or even "inspired" by God, but a book written by men claiming to be speaking for God. The evidence points to the Bible (and all the other Holy books for that matter) as being the works of men. No supernatural entity involved.

[@MrMarco855]

What evidence is there that men wrote the Bible without inspiration from God, or the New Testament from the teachings and life of Jesus? The 4 gospels in the New Testament have historical verification dating ever closer to the lifetime of Jesus. The most recent finding and authentication dates to less than 100 years, about 80 A.D. The other 3 gospels have been authenticated in the date range of 120 to about 200 A.D. Not that long ago the earliest authentication was about 150 A.D., that's now only 80 A.D. The point is that as more evidence comes to light, verification of discovered manuscript is getting very close to the time that Jesus was on Earth. As it is now, one gospel is only one generation from being first person written. Many/most of those that say they left the Church because they doubt the authenticity of the Bible, won't return to the Church if/when authenticity of the New Testament occurs. I say this because I don't believe most left the Church for that reason.

[@Hominid999]

Simply brilliant. The logic is inescapable. You've articulated your position very concisely.