This is How an Artist Gets REVENGE | Velvet Buzzsaw (2019)

[@localanon2906]

BABE WAKE UP, PONDER SPROCKET IS UPLOADING

[@cannibalgirl9249]

I literally said the same thing. Hahahahah

[@E3AloeLi]

YES YES YES YES

[@snailstrailz9394]

i really feel like the deaths in this movie could have been crazier and more focused on artwork. To continue the trend of death ideas; A mural of a tiger (maybe graffiti to be ironic for that one lady) comes to life and stalks the victim along the walls of a dark street, the painting itself never leaving the second dimension. In the morning no body is found, but the tiger mural has completely changed from how it was originally, instead if maybe standing in a walking pose, the tiger is now hunched over, eating.

[@Numbabu]

I liked when I watched the movie, and a few of the scenes were quite creative, but the theme of valuing art as something that matters because humans like it is what mainly made me enjoy it so much. I never even thought about how much more interesting the deaths could be lol. I even skipped over some of them cause I’m squeamish. I love your idea and I bet they could have come up with lots of stuff like that

[@DanialTarki]

So like that one kill from Tales From The Hood.

[@midnight4685]

To add to the chain, it made me imagine if an artist was splattered across a canvas but their own silhouette was left perfectly clean and untouched (white silhouette, red background). This could've been a death for the potential character Ponder mentioned, about the artist having put all of themselves into their art while they were making their way in the industry, but now they have nothing left to say and are now producing hollow, meaningless art for the masses. There's nothing left in them, it all went on canvases before. Shown by the negative silhouette and blood-covered positive space of the canvas. Not as crazy and surreal as some of the other cool death scene suggestions, but it feels like a potentially significant way of making that point.

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

Art death: Drowned in paint water. We all know we've drunk it accedently at least once 😂

[@Bumpgin]

You drank the paint water on accident, I did it on purpose. We are not the same.

[@kbbrown6725]

@@Bumpgin as a computer guy, I respect this. Thermal paste consumption is "Optional"

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

​@@kbbrown6725 It's also Optimal.

[@monsterclaw6748]

life hack to not drink paint water: dont put it in a mug

[@kbbrown6725]

@@monsterclaw6748 ok but like no

[@lanagomisc.6005]

I once saw a painting in someone's house that was made with the ashes of a dearly departed friend. Artists will see something and be like, "do it art?" and try to make art with it. Also, a gruesome artistic death could be at an exhibition. People start with taking pictures of the art shown, but then they start taking pieces of it. You try to stop them, but then they start to tear pieces off of you. First clothes, then hair, then limbs, organs, bones, and even the skin of your hollowed husk. It's a horrible way to go, but it also demonstrates how an audience can with an artist, to wanting to own some part of you(r work) or they tear you to pieces (critically).

[@cherrycrows3844]

I thought this happened with an artist once before. If I remember right, she didn't actually die, but I think it gave her ptsd bc of how graphic things got for her

[@lanagomisc.6005]

@@cherrycrows3844 That happened with Maria Abramovich, a performance artist.

[@midnight4685]

@@lanagomisc.6005 I think that might be Rhythm 0 for anyone curious to look it up. Yoko Ono also did Cut Piece, where audience members could all cut off a piece of her clothes and keep them.

[@naxamillion9169]

Hoonessttlly a sequel of velvet buzzsaw that focuses on the AI bro would go soo hard i'd watch it

[@2a0z72]

PONDER UPLOAD WE ALL CHEERED, TIME TO OPEN OUR TABLETS

[@lizziehn5928]

Imagine a movie with an artist who uses the remains of OTHERS in their work!

[@vaporean_boylove.0w083]

Dude I watch it cause you can do some cool ass commentary or just get creative with the plot and characters.

[@pondersprocket2274]

House of Wax

[@slayersDX_98]

I think I've heard of a movie like that, might have been from the 90s?

[@nylogutz_]

Hannibal lecter frfr

[@TheRPGNerd]

​@@pondersprocket2274 house of wax mention, based

[@kawiigirl86]

animated transitions as well??? Ponder, you spoil us~

[@ajnayup2821]

Any game-overs from the game IB would make pretty good art deaths

[@diesix4086]

YES!!! THANK YOU!!

[@AnnoyingSquib]

IB would make an amazing horror film if adapted correctly.

[@Toriyamaus]

FINALLY! A long form video for me to draw to that's not about all the recent dramas that I'm so burnt out on, lol Jokes aside, I'm really happy you're continuing doing media analysis type videos, you're a very insightful person and always give prospectives that I've never thought about before, also you're quite comforting to listen to (I'm not sure if it's your voice, vibes or sea aesthetic), but, it's really nice to hear you talk about something that you're passionate about, and not sounding angry or like your brain is being eaten away at by stupidity❤

[@E3AloeLi]

We love ponder for making us happy as a fellow artist

[@ChisaBero]

Velvet Buzzsaw is just a lowkey DanganRonpa revenge fantasy for artists, and I think that's why I like it so much

[@Dicerollball]

Animator death: Every line they add to their animation they become older, and the change is so subtle that they don't realize until their hands shake and they physically can't continue even though they feel compelled to finish the 10 second animation.

[@Egg_thing]

Personally I kinda liked how Damrish's art wasn't shown and how little focus there was on any artists or pieces besides the death scenes. The characters were dismissing the art or only engaging with it on a surface level and so was the movie, so in the hallucination and death scenes it felt like the art was forcing itself into the movie as well as into the characters lives. None of the art critics or owners wanted us to engage with Damrish's works, they only cared how the art is talked about and so we as the audience only heard their opinions and didn't see it, that is until the art itself became an active force overpowering them

[@thedarkcat7484]

I had assumed the reason why the little art thief went first because he was planning to steal the art on a metaphorical level and claim it as his own. I don't even think this was said, I just assumed it was his intent, that he was going to sign them with his own name and pass them as his, and that this was the cardinal sin that sentenced h to immediate death. But now I'm not actually sure where I got that from.

[@pondersprocket2274]

That actually would have been a *great* motive for him to go first. Had Bryson been fleshed out a little more then that could have been a well defined aspect of the narrative. Presently, it does feel more like speculation simply because while he *did* take credit for someone else's work as a means of classifying himself as an artist, he *was* still specifying that he was a part of the installation process and not taking credit for the creation of the pieces as a whole.

[@ArchieRatsworth]

​@@pondersprocket2274 Isn't credit theft seriously frowned on in the art community? I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have a total stranger claim partial credit for your work just because they work at a gallery that happened to display it. He had no work of his own, does he? Yet he wants to attach himself to the people actually creating and producing the works without their knowledge or consent. That would easily be seen as a form of exploitation by the frustrated ghost of a dead artist who already blames him for exposing his work to other exploiters. The ghost judged him quickly as a minor parasite who had no creative work of his own, no eye for art and no hope of appreciating it while trying to benefit from a totally utilitarian role. That is why Bryson was killed off so quickly. Deets had no interest in observing him any further, unlike the others who could have more elements worth consideration. ETA: Deets isn't a objective judge of character, he is a vindictive spirit who weights the merits of the critics and exploiters through a personal bias as brutal as the one displayed by the critics. The fact that his judgment costs the lives of those he judges unworthy is a dark mirror of the influence of the art critics. A story of twisted vengence.

[@E3AloeLi]

Yes, this is an amazing theory.

[@StarlightViolets]

The art based death I thought of was a person being skinned/flayed and then their skin is turned into the canvas that is painted on, but the unique traits of that person shine through the piece in some way (like freckles, scars, moles, etc.)

[@CaptainMonipue]

1) I really liked this review. It felt very thorough from a perspective of being genuinely interested in symbolism, breaking down film and art alike. Its really clear that you engage with the movie in a thoughtful and cool way where there's both room for enjoyment, but also criticism. It's really nice and made the review very enjoyable, despite the fact that I else would not care particularly for that kind of movie. Despite loving both horror and art as well, I think your sum-up and break-down gave me the most enjoyment that I would have gotten out of Velvet Buzzsaw. I do really hope you'd consider doing this again about movies that interests you - It's very lovely. 2) When the scene finally came around in which I understood the thumbnail, I was greatly humored. Great choice. 3) I love the segway animation you used - it's very artsy and fun. Super enjoyable. Generally your assets for video making (while not at their final stages) is very nice and adds a lot of personal touch. 4) Honestly I really love listening to you talk about films. It feels to me, like a viewer, that this type of lighter content that you're passionte about, is much more cheerful compared to some of your drama/heavy content. That's not to say I don't *love* that stuff (because I do frequently rewatch it haha), but this feels like it's less... for a lack of better words, less draining and grating of your lifespan. I remember whenever I watched your video "Ponder Sprocket: The Movie", were in you also talked about two movies (I dont recall the names off of the top of my head). Listening to you talk about film theory, composition, etc. was just charming. It's really cool getting to see that again between this video and the one on Dirk Gently. (by the way, thanks for talking about it, as a fan i cry over the cancellation and lack of content AUGH). This was a lovely watch that clearly left me with much to enjoy. Not simply the points above, but I really enjoyed just listening to your review of it. Also for art ways to die: I feel there's a lot of appeal and joy in the way that art ony has meaning in the eyes of the beholder. How a lot of it is *dead*, but comes to life, because we breathe life and purpose individually into it. You don't have to like a pece, it doesn't have to resonate with you, but I feel like artists often are able to see that it probably has meaning to someone. To recognize a subjective worth, even if its not your own taste. For those who do not see it, *do not see a purpose to it*, and even see other's art as mere trash, I think there's a lot to play with. Skin peeling like old, cracked paint, becoming what you percieve as old and obsolete. Ones joints getting rusty, creaking as you move about. A body failing you, slowly becoming "trash" in the harsh and unforgiving eyes that only sees the living and beautiful as a tool for profit and cogs in a machine. I have no coherent ideas, but the visuals and sensation sticks with me, as I more and more fear that my body will never be able to keep up and create the art i need to make to survive. because as an artist, I only remain valuable if I continue making. Or if I'm dead. And I think that's very cool and thoughtful! Art consumer and artist alike. Also it makes me really appreciate the art I have already have made. Maybe I shouldn't fear the inevitable end, but enjoy that I got to journey.

[@zagidice]

I've been patently awaiting this moment.

[@somerandomguy7325]

Now everything is awesome

[@AnnoyingSquib]

People used to use powdered mummies as a health supplement. Yes. That did turn out to be detrimental. They also used mummies as kindling for steam locomotives because they used to be more plentiful in supply than wood. They also had unwrapping parties where they unwrapped mummies for fun. The mummy trade was so avaricious that it was the reason mummy discoveries and preserved tombs are so rare today.

[@sugarrusheb]

Art death idea: Art dealer after hours at their gallery is moving out the previous night's paintings and exhibits for the next days', during which they begin to feel an eerie feeling from the art pieces, like they're all watching the dealer. As the feeling grows, they begin to back away from the paintings, feeling the eyes boring into them. They end up going over the railing of the second floor, falling and bleeding out, while still feeling the eyes of the paintings and other art pieces. The next day, everyone treats them as the newest installment of the exhibition. I'd say this death would most likely be befitting of someone that disregards the tragedy and feelings of the artists and their pieces, and instead only values the art on their ability to draw a crowd, including shock value.

[@chickendragon2966]

For a death via art, if we want to take the movie's themes into account, we could really go with. The most on the nose thing ever but that would be fun. Have an art piece that's about food, maybe a sculpture or something. Have a character get pulled to it for reasons they can't explain, or maybe they run into it by chance or are interested in it's artist as a whole, something to tie them to the piece. Maybe they accidentally break it, only to find the insides are almost identical to what the statue's replicating. It's... real, isn't it? But pristine, divine, and surely must taste as such. Or maybe a little gets on their hands and they lick it off to find it really does taste that good. They start to indulge themselves in this piece, nothing else like it, nothing so tailored to perfection, the hands that crafted it long since handed over the piece to the art market, it's not really theirs anymore, is it? The victim starts to greedily stuff the pieces of the art into their mouth, eagerly devouring this masterpiece. But you are what you eat, right? They start to change, their skin, muscle, bones start to morph into the statue's original material, it gets harder to move, to breathe, but they just can't stop. It's too good. Its too much. They end up becoming a statue, the very thing they tried to mindlessly consume.

[@justsomeartist8895]

I think there’s something interesting and somewhat of a missed opportunity that the rich clients themselves didn’t feature as characters, because in the system the narrative presents, the clients can either be as exploitative as the critics, or _exploited_ as the artists. These high art scenes are kind of not so secretly a front for money laundering so Gretchen’s client for example could be nothing more than a money laundering scumbag who only cares about the art so long as it can benefit them, only to lock them away once their usefulness is dried up. Or they could have a completely genuine interest and love for the arts and more money than they know what to do with, so they’re effectively just throwing their money at whatever artist Gretchen tells them needs/deserves the support because they want to support artists, even ones who don’t necessarily make art to their personal taste. That might’ve made the rules even more clear of someone who had bought the painting out of genuine appreciation was left completely unscathed vs one who bought it for personal gain whether to put on airs of pseudo intellectualism or money laundering being punished.

[@Hyikal]

Banger video as usual ponder! Here's my artistic death idea, inspired by what you mentioned about the thieving body pillow company; Someone who steals art to print out and sell on body pillows starts having nightmares every night of being grabbed at by invisible hands. They haunt them more and more frequently with each night, something that impacts their ability to produce their stolen merchandise. They spend more and more time in bed every day, trying to catch up on sleep that does not come, jolted awake every minute their eyelids drift shut. One night, the hands start haunting them before their eyes even close pushing out from within sheets and pillows, staining the fabric with dyes from where they push out. The victim is too exhausted and sleep-deprived to struggle meaningfully, but they thrash, fighting back with the last bits of strength left in their body as the hands drag them into the bed, smothering them in what should've been the safest place for them. all what is discovered in the morning is a silhouette of their body, a snapshot of their dying struggle, imprinted onto the mattress by something that appears to be rotting bodily fluids, but is actually fabric dye.

[@shortcakesweetie]

It’s so nice to see someone talk about this movie!! I don’t see many people talk about it often, it’s nice to hear a proper analysis

[@thedragonsweets3350]

watching this while putting price tags on my crochet pieces really adds to the themes you're talking about ngl

[@Stargazer_Ley]

I was painting a prop axe for my Halloween costume (I'm working a trunk or treat event and the group I'm going with chose Candyland so I'm Mr. Mint. :) )

[@Mangakamen]

Getting into media essays now? Groovy

[@TheRPGNerd]

a digital artist who "curses" their art in a similar manner to the program Nightshade, but with a twist. any time their art is used in an image made by ai, a physical version of whatever was depicted in the original image comes to life and drags the "artist" into the very computer they used to mangle their work. on another account, each of these victims shows up as another piece in the same style, corpses on display, cursed in the very same way and thus repeating the cycle. yeah if you cant tell im a digital artist who has been poisoning the FUCK out of my art.

[@talltalestudios3332]

So glad you saw the piece and that i didn't send it to the wrong email, Also enjoyed todays spoopy video

[@samusai]

I remember watching this movie just because of the connection to Darger after learning about him in an art history course-so I was happy to see that you brought up that connection. As for the "an artistic death" - or I guess elimination in this case (coming from somebody who works in an art gallery)-i would go the artistic film route. Lights go out, and the film begins playing. It's hypnotic and the victim cannot look away. The grainy footage getting more and more clear as it plays one, only to realize they are no longer watching but now in the film. They try to escape but each loop, they find themselves in a role to play-and soon they forget they were ever a real person.

[@mullerpotgieter]

Incorporating pieces of yourself into your art sound metal till you remember you're constantly shedding dead skin and body oil onto whatever you're touching.

[@forgetaboutme5414]

Was not expecting a Dorian Grey reference ❤ thank you B for that

[@ravencrow1011]

I was thinking the same thing about the sequel, imagine how many making a rage bait about ai art by some artist on social media only to allow us to see their glitch out face in real life, lol

[@ArchieRatsworth]

There was a horror movie about a smut streamer being replaced by an A.I replica of herself. It starts consuming her entire livelihood and forcing her out of the scene, doing things she doesn't consent to.

[@tiffany-chan1235]

​@@ArchieRatsworth Oooh! What's its title?

[@HiveCat666]

I like slow burn horror so I may enjoy this film. Thanks B for bringing this film attention; I’ll check it out 👍🏻

[@nyx_nycto]

..Ponder Sprocket? Haven’t heard that name in ages🚬 /ref

[@AlLeDrgon]

(My mom entered my room right near the end and I had to pause since I was not sure how close to the end I was and I did not want to miss anything. So imagine my humor when I press play and B says "Draw something!". Ok will do. That at least is an order I can get behind.😂

[@Lakadaizical]

I love me some long content of media i've never heard before! Turly perfect, for late night drawing

[@CosmiccNova]

Art death: At first you’re under the impression there is an earthquake. The room shakes but you’re the only thing that falls over and your arm falls off. When placed back together at the socket, a thin line of gold welds it back on just for the action to repeat. It keeps going until the person is shattered into pieces with each fall, only for each tiny piece to patch itself back on. You feel the pain of your skin, bone, and muscle splitting but you’re destined to be recreated and broken until the room is done with you and you can no longer be brought back as a beautiful piece😋

[@angelictofu]

I was literally just thinking about watching a ponder sprocket video. What an awesome surprise! Also i loved your last media analysis, so glad you're continuing with the format!

[@raisintran5178]

1:15:51 My first idea was in regards to Morph’s attitude towards art, only finding it worthy if it becomes about him. He makes fun of one instillation, mocks the artist, but later is happy to know it ranked in the most profit. As he walks through the museum, now closed. he makes a step, seeing the piece once more, the eyes of the figure captivating as they are semi reflective. The ground beneath him raises to become a podium, glass surrounding him. He attempts to bang on the glass, but his body begins to lock and movement isn’t at all possible anymore. He is completely frozen in place but still fully aware and conscious. The crowd comes in studying the statue that had just arrived. “An installation dedicated to the world renowned art critic.” Is what his coworkers market it as, seeing a statue so closely resembling that of their former colleague. My writing isn’t the best but I find the idea horrifying. To become the thing everyone picks apart and looks at, disregarding the reason the art was made in the first place.

[@dyingstar24]

"if the target audience is meant to be artists, then it should be scary to artists" Okay, so what if the antagonist was a corporate meatriding ai art entusiast?

[@cowboy_kitty777]

That will be so terrifying, DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!! (Tho…. The antagonist should get consequences at the end of the movie. It would be banger.)

[@worldwaide]

Oooooooh! New type of content! I LOVE my long cathartic movie rants and having your voice and these points mixed in is *just* what the art school counselor ordered

[@bonepointriverstone]

A death with artistic medium i can think of is a wasteful painter being drowned in the paints they wasted carelessly as it floods their home, or specifically their room until nothing is left. Another one is someone who wasted clay when sculpting is buried alive in the tons of tons of clay, maybe of various bases, they carelessly threw away for years, becoming a statue themselves the next day.

[@ZombieOwl12]

Just have to say, those transition animations are FABULOUS AND DELICIOUS NOMNOMNOM

[@sophieknowles4876]

Loving these videos about different media, Ponder. Even if the movie isn't something I'd watch, (too spooky for me) you talking about it was really fun. Also, nice touch with the way you did the fanart feature. X3

[@shr0omr139]

yippie ponder sprocket uploaded

[@cosplaylovergirl1092]

Bro if only they play the game Ib, that is some good ideas! Especially Mary being a “real” girl

[@-REDACTED-Light]

I'm currently watching this and I'm at the 46:40 mark of the video and I want to say this is really helping me out in making cursed art of Scrub Daddy being shipped with a yellow cheap song they use in their youtube shorts. Thanks Ponder :D

[@willowwithin]

As a Printmaker I can think of many horrible ways someone could go out in a printmaking themed horror kill

[@8363MTR]

34:33 - 34:54: So glad that you’ve brought this up as it now triggers a past memory of mine to bring up another example. Although it’s more used as an educational setting rather than being used as an art piece (although one may argue that some of them are posing as if it’s in an artistic way, and also the art is beholden by the viewer, and that kind of thing of someone’s subjectivity of what an art piece is), I did remember the Denver Museum of Nature and Science advertised back in the day an exhibition known as Body Worlds where, through generous donations before someone’s passing, the deceased body would have their muscular system be exposed to the public for educational manner while doing various poses such as running or lifting. Which will bring up another kill that I thought up in my head. Do the whole thing with the statues and the victims, but instead of con-jointing the body, the animated corpses instead hold down the victim and cut off the skin of the victim alive. It would probably be too gruesome for the film to be shown the full process, so I would imagine that someone would walk into the exhibit, noticing all of the blood, and then a new piece will be shown standing up right while holding their own cut up skin, displaying it to everyone.

[@ThatGreenMach1ne]

Funnily enough while I can't think of many art themed horror movies, I can think of a lot of art themed horror video games, Ib, Layers of fear etc. Edit: This is a bit boring but my art death is a figuratively toxic artist choking to death as the literal toxins from their supplies flood the room and overwhelm them.

[@scrumptious_human]

I love evil bisexuals, my favorite archetype

[@reaperlou8649]

Omgomgomg ANIMATED TRANSITIONS?!?! Holy fuck

[@katiepaint1936]

was in live chat towards the end but LESSSSGOOOOOOOOOOOO just as i was starting another PonderSprocket Binge

[@hazy_days1465]

I'm watching Velvet Buzzsaw right now before I listen to this video so I don't get spoiled, but imagine my surprise when I found out that Daveed Diggs, AKA the actor for Thomas fucking Jefferson in Hamilton, is in this movie

[@leavemealone802]

Guess who is back? Back again Ponder is back, tell your friends Guess who's back, Guess who's back, Guess who's back, Guess who's back,

[@ArtzyBlade]

I OPENED KZbin. SAW A NEW PONDER VIDEO. AND SCREAMED!!

[@pawnarchy]

yippeee!!! new ponder vid!!! yayyy :D very thrilled 2 have a video to keep me company today on loop

[@byunica]

Blessed day, was just thinking of a ponder video to rewatch

[@k.abigailguerralozano9917]

LA PATRONA A DEJADO NUEVO VIDEO PARA DIBUJAR, QUE BIEN ESTAR VIVA!!🗣‼️

[@ash_rock]

Art critic death: They return from an art exhibition and sit down at their computer to write their review. As they type, they start to type, they notice an itchiness spreading across their body. They ignore it and keep typing. Then, the itchiness turns to burning, and the critic pulls away their clothes to find scars and burns in the shape of the letters and words they've typed into their keyboard. Horrified, they stop, but the burns and scars keep appearing. They draw their last breath as the last word they typed appears on their skin, their criticism killing them akin to how it killed the careers of the artists they critiqued. The last word(s) burnt into their skin should be poetic, but I've lost my inspiration to write more, so have fun imagining what it/they could be!

[@BallisticCryptid]

Hey Brooke! The entire time I was hearing your analysis of this film, I kept thinking the same thing: this sounds a lot like The Menu. If you haven't seen The Menu, that movie touches on a lot of the same themes that this one does, granted through the lens of food critics instead of art critics. As that was one of my favorite horror films to come out in the past couple years, I highly recommend you check it out! The big difference between The Menu and this movie is that it seems The Menu is less focused on it strictly going after critics, and more focused on going after anyone who doesn't respect the art form. If you do go and watch it, please go in with as little prior knowledge as you can. You'll get way more out of it that way. In the meantime, I'll go watch Velvet Buzzsaw! This video sold me on checking the movie out. P.S. As someone who really likes movies, this was an absolute treat to watch! Please, make more of these! (Assuming that it's something you're interested in doing; up to you, obviously.)

[@Alonelysea]

The daveed diggs jumpscare. We'll never escape the cast of hamilton

[@warhawk0466]

the first death was probably more of a grudge and personal

[@astridstarr2787]

Ive never gotten to see a ponder video early! So happy!

[@incompletemachine877]

I have a sort of long form Art kill which would have to be built up: An Artist who paints very generic, twee pretty things solely to sell via their critic friends (and launder cash). The paintings have no deeper feeling or motive, but they pretend that they are meaningful while looking down on much more heartfelt work. they start working on their new painting seeing it as just another piece, only for it to be revealed as a nightmarish horror piece, opposed to their existing style and completely disrupting one of their shows. They try again, seeing nothing but normal work, only for the next one to be even more disturbing. Again and again they try, feverishly painting, photographing the results and showing their 'friends', only for each and every one to report back that they've gotten worse and worse, till the artist is cut off. Finally, the artist frantically paints grotesques and horrors on every surface in their home until they drop dead of exhaustion; when they're found, the nightmares they seemed to be painting turn out to be fruits, flowers and birds.

[@spooky1174]

LOVE THIS 💕💕

[@hydrofalls8154]

Frankly I love those videos more.

[@welcometoelijahvale]

im so glad this came out just as i was sitting down to do my animation homework, thank god for bea

[@firelord506blaze6]

I think it could be funny if when it comes to a 3D or sculpture artist that they start their work only to slowly wittle themselves down into a twisted version of their piece.

[@PlatinumAmex]

In my opinion, if you have a curse in your fiction, you have to treat the curse like a character with a set of rules. “You are Curse and you only do X and only when Y happens.” Breaking or not established the rules mean the curse serves no purpose.

[@vincentskullman]

Picture this. An art critic who specialises in classical sculptures chiselled from marble has been travelling across the United Kingdom attending showcases with amateur, intermediate and expert levels of quality but no matter for whom they judge - it is always a negative review. They particularly enjoy mocking the sculptor for their lack of hands or how they didn't meet the criteria to be human enough. Perhaps the surface was too coarse or the details not portrayed well enough but there would always be something. However, after gaining access to a twilight tour of the showcase where critics could view the pieces in a quiet environment, our critic parts from the group to go ahead since the current grouping of only busts provided no intrigue compared to the later segment as mentioned on the pamphlet. Soon enough their impatience proved fortunate as they were granted a range of marble statues depicting anything from men to women and angels to demons. The quality and detail of each figure proved to be everything they could have asked for as every aspect of the body proved to mirror that of a human such as themselves. At this point it seemed as if everything was created just for him to marvel at and indulge in. Everything but the hands. When the critic leaned close to try and inspect the hands, it was like a shadow was constantly in the way and hiding that which they yearned to perceive no matter which statue they shifted around to inspect. No matter they could simply use the flashlight of their phone to do so as they had done plenty of times before now. Except...it was no where to be found no matter how deep they dug into their pockets with only dust and crumbs of marble being pulled out instead. Strange but no unsurprising, perhaps they should have washed through their pants more thoroughly. Regardless, being without a way of better examining the grand creations, they turned ready to join the group again so they could pester another for their phone. How odd. The door didn't budge and it seemed as though the handle had been almost twisted 180 degrees so it hung upside down. Completely useless. Being trapped, without a way of calling for anyone to assist and assuming the group would catch up to them, the critic would be made to wait in this wonderland of creation they had the misfortune of not being able to enjoy. They turned back around only to notice that they were now surrounded by the collection of marble statues that had once been fairly laid out in equally spaced segments which only housed empty podiums instead. No words found them. Nothing of terror, anger or confusion - just pure silence. Thinking the meagre light above was messing with their eyes they opted to close them shut and hoped nothing had actually changed as shaky breathes fell from their mouth until a sudden force threw them to the ground in an instant. Blood started to pool in their maw as they had both bitten their tongue harshly but also cracked a couple of their front teeth from such a forceful impact. Being almost too stunned to make a move, the critic opened their eyes again only to notice statues took up the space between themselves and the door now leaving nothing in the ways of a potential exit if throwing their body against the doors could do anything of worth. In a frantic effort to keep eyes on all the sculptures at once, they whipped their head all over the place sending crimson spit all across the wooden floors with an occasional splatter upon the statue's themselves. It proved to do little in the ways of saving them though as this pitiful display was stopped when the critic was held in what they would describe as a vice considering the strength in which was forced upon them. However it would prove to be the least of their worries as everything went dark in an instant before a searing pain spread from the ocular region of their skull with a wriggling feeling only prolonging the torture until a sudden snap confirmed their fears outright followed with the release of their head following soon after. Such suffering did not end there though as the touch of another graced their hands only to slowly tighten and squeeze with it growing in intensity as the seconds ticked by like days dragging along. A fiery pain juxtaposed the cold sensation of the aggressor's hands as they didn't stop for anything with flesh starting to tear, bones beginning to break and their blood began to flood the space between them. Any scream of agony fell on deaf ears and it failed to sway the other who found themselves going completely through the critic's hands only to meet themselves in the middle. Then it was over. As pain continued to build they were left alone only for the sudden rush of air to hit their back and the tour guide tried asking any which manner of questions, but it was futile. The trauma of losing both eyes and hands in such a sudden manner had knocked them right out with no obvious attacker left in sight but it wasn't of their concern and soon the showcase hall was closed up sharpish. A smile was shared between the marble statues as a soft dripping echoed throughout the space as blood fell onto the podium below.

[@nortalian549]

Holy shit. Look at these two scenes/clips 58:27 and 58:28. The eyes in the background fUCKING MOVE TO LOOK AT HIM and consequently US

[@Snomwithaknife420]

1) an Art Thief gets their hands on a painting, tracing it delicately and doing their best to replicate it line for line. Stroke for stroke, but it’s only looking more and more off. No matter how hard they try to recreate it, it just looks like a cheap knockoff. They get up to go make some instant noodles and is brought to the grim realisation that they’ve become wrong. Like they were a cheap knockoff of a human. As they try to fix themselves, the worse it gets until their body is no more then a mangled mockery of a human. 2) a cartoonist that sells their work as a visual representation of the criticism of others and their work. They go missing only to be found as a newspaper cartoon piece that criticises the artist and showcases the panels eating them alive leaving only their last words in dripping ink.

[@okuriinu8489]

The queen is back!

[@stickysocks6369]

I accidentally hurt myself at age 12 with a pencil while drawing and started bleeding onto the paper, so I just started drawing with it, it's really not as rare as ppl think.

[@sinful-corruption]

Literally booted up my tablet as soon as I heard that video intro

[@eptck]

i'm gonna be honest , this feels like it wanted to be a benoit blanc mystery , not a horror movie

[@utternonsense1998]

I think what could have been explored, given the constant use of irony and role reversal, what if one of the critics was forced to make art? Make their death a literal performance art piece or something, I don't know. I was thinking maybe the curse makes the critic tear themselves apart to paint a canvas. ... Or, I dunno, someone could drown in a urinal as a reference to "the fountain?" Something about taking the piss? I don't know lol.

[@ianbyrne465]

I like it. Kinda like that one kill in "the Menu."

[@Romanticoutlaw]

35:55 while you're right about blood in art, I beg to differ. I think a movie whose intended audience was _only_ people who have knowledge of the greater art scene, it would exclusively play at sundance festival and nowhere else. For it to play to the general public at _all,_ the assumption should be that people would see blood being used in art as taboo or upsetting. Source: my middle school boyfriend, who was less than enthusiastic about the piece I made for him using my blood 😂

[@theartofthefart3244]

This was such a good movie breakdown!

[@biblystarbs]

YESSSSSS TIME TO GRAB THE TABLET, THANKS PONDER

[@ashleydragon4129]

Happy Halloween 🎃

[@Carlos-sk6wf]

The comic book artist death reminded me of the the Haunting Hour's episode "a brush with madness"

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

How have I never heard of this before?! This shit is right up my alley

[@CatTribal]

Was kind of hoping for The Menu meets Ib, instead we got a more coherent "Our Drawings" I really like the transition pieces. Are you thinking of incorporating more animation in your videos? As for artistic kills, an art teacher who openly degrades their students works finds their own undesirable physical feature getting enlarged until it swallows them whole. Or someone stuck in the traditional and "better ways" to do art falls down an infinite flight of stairs.

[@dumber_sleepy_artist]

Holy shit, new ponder sprocket video

[@TheFuzzyOfDoom]

I watched this movie awhile ago. I don't really remember how I felt about it besides maybe somewhat amused. I definitely did not think deeply on it (the bad people got got), so this was an intriguing listen. As for art deaths, I feel as though film, photo, and audio as mediums are kind of left out... at least I think. It might be interesting to have a character become part of a film reel where they are doomed to repeat a finite set of actions forever like a ghost. Or maybe there could be a death in a dark room. They love the red lighting in dark rooms! So spooky! The victim died of exposure haha. Then for audio, I don't know. One of the characters was a musician, maybe one of the installations has a repeating string of audio and it gets stuck in the characters head. Even if they deprive themselves of art, they can still hear it in a completely silent space. What if it's a literal earworm?

[@Icyangel10]

Some of your ideas for creative deaths are both interesting & make me think of karmic punishments from the earlier chapters of YuGiOh like Yugi getting stuck at a bully’s karaoke night(it sucks & is loud), the bully’s punishment is becoming deaf(or implied) via an unplugged mic picking up his own heart. Yami’s first victim is someone trying to extort Yugi for money leading to his punishment game making him think he’s surrounded by money but by the morning the other students see him messing around with trash & leaves. It’d be really cool to see some of your death ideas in a movie or short, also makes me wonder how a sequel would go. Funny enough the weeping angel idea reminds me of a story from a webseries called Hypnogogic Archive about an archive that in-universe they’re archiving stuff from the early internet but in reality has many stories of people dealing with horror. One involves a night guard at a museum with multiple taxidermy animals getting attacked by every night by the blue herring that’s meant to be locked in a case. I dunno why but your ideas kind of just made me want to watch some horror videos cause it leads to ideas for interesting things to watch.(I dunno how to word things, sorry)

[@KinderTimber58]

THANK YOU THANK YOU PONDER THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dakota6607]

Just in time for the spooky session

[@MELcoholic]

I CAN DRAW AGAIN YAYY

[@Beansaplenty]

Obligatory I haven’t seen this movie: Based on what you described alone, I feel that with a few story changes this could make a really good musical. Like I don’t know why exactly, but I feel like if treated in a similar way to something like the Heathers musical or maybe even Little shop this could be pretty funny and or pretty interesting- Also, Art related horror death: Deviant art. That’s all I need to say. (Can potentially elaborate if asked)

[@hedrixityblitz4065]

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[@Discontinued-t6w]

Maybe there could be one who only draws with black pens. At some point he starts noticing he’s becoming pale and sickly, panicking at what’s going on he rushes to his nearby hospital only to see his body stretch thin, etchy lines all over to suggest shading or as of his outline is becoming undone like a pen losing ink. And when he finally does reach the hospital barely able to speak he lets out a raspy, shrill screech saying “help m-“ before fading away right once the automatic door opened. Everyone inside just staring in fear and confusion as to what occurred

[@sickeningcherry9012]

Nearly jumped out of my seat seeing this in my recommendations, buuuut I did decide to watch the movie first before the analysis. I’ve never heard of this movie before, so I was more than delighted to hear about an art critic and dealer set horror movie. I’m attending my first semester of art school as of watching this and finishing the film so both the film and your commentary really hit home with me. The idea of a curse being wrought as a result of a blatant disregard and lack of respect for the artist makes sense, but especially when it comes to the lengths the characters went to to dig up Dease’s history which included a series of traumatic events. And purely to add or take away value from his work. That’s what I kind of dislike about art curation and critique like we see in the movie. Art can’t be left up to personal interpretation in some cases and so critics either try to push one particular interpretation or fight tooth and nail to try and find history to see the piece through that lense. I know damn well if I were to make a piece or series based on my own experiences or feelings, I would be distraught if someone had dug into my past to find some sort of traumatic event or series of such to explain my work through that kind of perspective. The whole thing seems invasive in that way, but in particular in the case of Dease where once again, he did not want his work seeing the light of day in the first place. Sorry for the ramble. I absolutely love your content Ponder. Keep up the good 🫶✨

[@sans5548]

Thankyou i had to draw squids for someone and this was a nice backround noise

[@Ophanium]

those diy things that involve sticking stuff onto them. like. imagine youre someone who thinks diy stuff is boring, you wake up one day and you feel itchy. you notice that theres little decorations on your skin (like those rhinestones or something), and you dont think much of it. you go and take a shower, hoping to get the stuff off but it.. seems really stuck. you pull on it and eventually your skin rips off. in some sort of hysteria, you start ripping more and more of your skin off until you eventually die from blood loss, your corpse having diamonds and other decorations scattered throughout the muscles and sinew, with the skin you had torn off STILL having those rhinestones scattered on them. i hate the feeling of pulling glue off my skin, just imagine that but your skin IS the glue and youre ripping your skin off.

[@qweertii]

Love the Patrick Stars at 4:47 and 5:02

[@Trojinarts]

Thank you B!!! ❤❤❤

[@LeifsLittleLuxuryHell]

Some (probally scuffed) art themed deaths: I forgot who did this but I know some artist out there made a painting by using a paint bucket pendulum, so I think it'd be cool if you used this concept, but had 5 buckets swinging around, each spilling some sort of liquid, Ones probally oil to coat the floor and make the victim slip, ones maybe corn syrup or something sticky, ones an irritant, and ones acid (5th ones maybe gasoline?). Victim slips and falls, gets stuck to the ground due to the honey, irritated by the irritant, all while the acid bucket periodically moves over them, eating away at their body. Persons attached to a machine that digs into their body. Every minute, the contraption forcibly moves the attached person in more and more contorted ways, all while a blinding flash goes off right after the contraption moves the body. This could also be reworked to be like, possesion or something. (Stop motion death/pose doll death) Someones put on a large pottery wheel, all while large hands press the body, trying to mold it. Person dies due to the fingers grinding their skin, and later their muscles/bones due to the speed, and their body is shaped into a fucked up pot or vase

[@nylogutz_]

YEEESSS I wish there were more art focused horror movies