The Pink Cat that Stole the Dream

Fun fact: I even traced the base for the thumbnail. The art themes go DEEP.
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[@inactive_ina]

I think it is VERY ironic that she says "I don't like seeing amateur artists being given a grand platform", seemingly oblivious to the quality of her own work lol.

[@pondersprocket2274]

Round these here parts... (tips hat) -ptoooie!- ...we call that *projection.* (old west tune chimes in)

[@jordanjoestar-turniptruck]

Glass houses

[@CHloE748]

Reminds me of crapshow 😂

[@lindsayshanks7555]

Just because amateur artists don't view art as a job doesn't make them bad

[@caramel9154]

@@jordanjoestar-turniptruck Glass mansion

[@enitenit2791]

I thought the "I like tracing it's my favorite part of the day" part of the thumbnail was an exaggerated joke, not an ACTUAL quote Pink Cat said in full confidence thinking that it wouldn't incriminate her further

[@dim307]

i think she just doesn’t care .. she prolly thinks like yea i trace but i ELEVATE. UR WELCOME, VICTIMS. buy my merch

[@jaysonklein6018]

Narcissists like to gaslight and normalize their crappy behavior to the point where they can eventually say the horrible truth... and nobody bats an eye.

[@Black_Pastelz_Edits]

Bro same

[@alexevans2011]

I know…. Like dude I like tracing myself because I’m still learning and I find it a good way to learn and it keeps me motivated to work harder because I can see a final work that’s nice even if it’s someone else’s work that I copied. But one thing I’ve never done is post that, claim it as my own, or show it to anyone without clarifying it’s a tracing

[@pastelcatnip]

​@@jaysonklein6018hey not every asshole on the Internet has NPD. Let's not demonize mental health conditions.

[@table2.0]

Who else thinks her Pink Cat character, especially the one in her icon, looks like a Cats 2019 character? Uncanny and offputting and stylistically starved..

[@MelodyRose96]

I thought the character looked like a knockoff Killer Queen from Jojo. But since you mentioned Cats 2019 I cannot unsee it.

[@bananasinfrench]

That was my first thought lol

[@supotter377]

Yeah it looks both too bland and too detailed making it very off putting.

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

​@@MelodyRose96Looked up Killer Queen. I see what you mean.

[@table2.0]

@@MelodyRose96 killer Queen looks great though, the design and style is thought out and makes sense, pink cat does not

[@BonseyJonsey]

How do tracers always make the most HIDEOUS pieces Like, you're stealing 90% of what you're making from something good. How the fuck do you make it look SO MUCH WORSE

[@RACOONAFIED]

They simply don't care :') they trace to make an art piece really fast so they trace and just leave it as that

[@kylocatky]

It's almost as of they lack creativity, a skill they would develop more if they stopped tracing... But seriously, it's very obvious PC has an aesthetic they want to put throughout their art. Yet, their tracing visually halts it, and makes their work appear uncanny. I agree with Ponder that PC's untraced art looks better.

[@bimates2690]

@@kylocatky There would be nothing wrong with *her* tracing if she just used it for practice.

[@kylocatky]

@@bimates2690 I agree! Unfortunately, she's using it for finished pieces AND monetizing it.

[@doe4003]

Because they don't typically understand why the lines go the direction or are the shape they are. They see the big picture, but don't understand what fine details make it up and make it *good.* It's like that one quote, "he's learned from better directors that you can tilt the camera to certain angles to make a better shot, but doesn't understand why." Or smth like that

[@shanelbryant5638]

Her saying she doesn’t use the n word made me let out an audible “uhhhhhh” because I LITERALLY thought she was black for a while because of how often she used it in comics when her instagram first blew up. Somehow I didn’t unfollow until the nft grift because she said she would only post comics as nfts and I was like “well guess there’s no more content”

[@pondersprocket2274]

You used to be subscribed to her instagram??

[@shanelbryant5638]

@@pondersprocket2274 yeah I followed around 2020 I think? I didn’t get she wasn’t black until she started making comics with heavy Persian/Islamic themes around 2022

[@the-postal-dude]

@@shanelbryant5638 to be fair you can be black and muslim

[@kozekyto]

Funny thing about her saying American imagery and culture was forced upon her and tracing those artworks is her “getting back”, when Tank Girl, for example, was illustrated by Jamie Hewlett. A British man.

[@lamplol7120]

and sailor moon was written by a japanese woman, so yeah she’s just saying whatever to excuse herself

[@2cat4life]

the brits walked so america could run

[@ma.2089]

Well the message can still be used, she’ll just have to change the wording again. Still…white european colonizer culture doesn’t sound the same I guess

[@trixxart777]

Also I found it even more funny is that he made Dirty Harry with Damon as an anti war song specifically for the Iraq war (and a lot of the lyrics and the imagery in the video are clearly supposted be set in the middle east and especially Bootie Browns part has a lot of stuff specifically referening to the Iraq war) it's clear that she isn't familiar with his work. It's not even like this is the a lesser known Gorillaz song/video since it's one of Gorillaz most known song from their biggest album and the video is one of the most popular videos.

[@kozekyto]

@@trixxart777 exactly!!

[@L0TUSFL0W34S]

I'm sorry but the person voicing Pink Cat's writings did such an amazing job, I love the tone they use to read it off; it just works with that creepy-cult-leader thing Pink Cat has going on. Really sets a good tone for the person she's reading from.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

Even though I the video also features Pink Cat's real voice, the person who voiced her comments is now the only one I hear when reading anything she's posting

[@BB-TheCandleFairy]

@@MiraTheWarlock same

[@violetto3219]

she does a great job matching the pretentious, condescending tone those passages give off

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

It's super annoying, but that's what makes it great for such an annoying person. I also love when she drops character in bewilderment.

[@pennycat6317]

I have mad respect for their ability to make me physically cringe at everything Pink Cat was saying

[@enderkatze6129]

She shouldn't be at a certain art level because she's already relativly old She should be at a certain level of art because with how many pieces she's trained, she has to have learned SOMETHING

[@arose92795]

This. One thing I learned from tracing (photos with permission from photographer) is that you REALLY have to actually think about the piece just as much as if you didn't trace for it to look decent. The only traced piece of mine I liked was one of my own daughter. But I contemplated it for weeks, and worked on it over the course of a week, then made minut changes to clarify areas and details for another week. It was my best one out of the lot BECAUSE I put so much time into making it look ok! That's something you simply can't achieve with one day and a quick trace with basically base colors. Plus the lines I traced *weren't even visible in the finished piece* I was really challenging myself. Now I'm working on learning how to do all this quicker and without tracing. And I did the majority (besides the sketch) all on one layer. I've found my favorite part is actually sketching. It's the most time consuming part, but I love finally seeing the lines form something somewhat recognizable. But colorization seems to be what I'm most skilled at. And all of it is better off without tracing. I'd even argue that making a decent traced piece is WAY harder than just... Doing it all with a reference.

[@simplenlocal]

@@arose92795 so your telling me that she isn't even good at tracing? damn her lack of awareness goes deep

[@Lucifersfursona]

Like how James didn’t get better at knowing anything about any of the actual queer history he bastardized and stole; actively refusing to learn anything. Baffling. Like on some level I sort of don’t understand how you can even do that- just like, decide you’re perfect and have nothing to learn so you just simply... do not learn. So fcking weird

[@Lucifersfursona]

@@arose92795I used to trace from those base pose/draw the squad sheets going around tumblr when I was first trying to do more dynamic and full body poses. *_it is so much easier as an artist to just use references than to trace._* Tracing makes you doubt your own abilities AND feel like a fraud so you never move out of your comfort zone; I was stuck with the body types and shapes of whatever I’d traced as the base pose and had a horrible time trying to add specific features not on the bases bc I didn’t have faith in my own abilities to create things quickly and accurately. I’m literally only competitive with art skill (which is like, frustrating lol bc it makes me mean, I’ve worked on it a lot. Art isn’t a competition and I redirect my jealousy from “why isn’t this my art damn it” to “I’m so happy this vision I thought was stuck in my brain is out there in some form being seen.”) Tracing makes you feel powerful to a point but it’s a very stubborn, amateur thing to do. You are good enough to use references, you are good enough to learn from references and get better. Also, just like for other artists; if ur looking back at the old work and noticing flaws, like “how could I fck it up this bad” flaws, it _probably_ means art brain clicked together some new details about how to do the thing better. My anatomy starts looking wonky to me when my brain goes “oh, arm actually bends like this and can’t bend like that, oh leg goes over here, oh background goes like this” Art is a form of talking. Don’t steal other people’s words keep saying things even if you don’t say them right at first. Do the learn it’s fun

[@resisilobus3191]

@@Lucifersfursonawho is James?

[@FillaneAmmisto]

God, I hate how she hides behind her identity and her having to leave her country to excuse everything she does. I'm a jewish woman in Germany. Just imagine me walking into a store, grabbing stuff i want and leave without paying and excuse it the way she does

[@imaginewolf4674]

I'm a white native american(my dad is native and my mom is Italian) so my culture is important to me but I don't use it as excuse for my crappy behavior lol

[@azurimoonnn]

Yeah. It's so shitty. I am an ex- Muslim Arab, and had to leave the gulf when I was 3 as well. I don't use it as an excuse for my actions and barely anyone knows or cares that I'm Arab because I myself don't project that I'm a "poor defenseless 'Muslim' " (which she isn't anymore, she's literally a pagan). It's sickening honestly, people in my home country people have suffered/do suffer way more than she or I have so how tf is she a victim in this case

[@DG_Toti]

third generation italian here, and I only say that because I find it interesting, not so I can bring up how italians were treated as subhumans when they began emigrating to the states as a means of excusing trashy behavior online.

[@dummyyogurt5375]

even ignoring the whole thing about her worshipping bastet, which is already considered shirk (sorcery, or the highest sin in Islam that *immediately* makes you *not* a muslim), conning people and lying for money are also haram in Islam. I felt the need to clarify this as a muslim myself.

[@DG_Toti]

Love the F.F. pfp homie

[@DG_Toti]

Made me also realize that Pink Cat’s eponymous character also looked uncannily like a genderbent Killer Queen

[@Ivory81]

@@DG_Toti I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR 😭

[@Iquey]

​@@DG_TotiOMG IT IS

[@CatMoria]

Also as a pagan I feel this just an insult to Bastet and Egyptian religion.

[@xxluseexx8121]

Y'know who I feel bad for the most? (Besides the artists traced) this lady's kid. Imagine telling someone your mom traces, sells NFTs, AND wanted to start a cult???? Plus she seems just a taaaaaaaad but toxic

[@table2.0]

Considering the unstable and toxic relationships in her comics and the mentions of weed and drugs, I’m guessing the police should probably at least check on the kid’s well-being..

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

​@Table 2.0 yeah, no. First of all, that is absolutely no basis for a welfare check. Second, recreational marijuana use is legal in California. Third, even if she says her art is influenced by her real life, she also contradicts that statement many times, so there is no reason to believe her art is reflected in her daily life with her child. Fourth, there are way more important reasons to be considered about her child's wellbeing than "the pot," like the whole wanting to start a cult thing. Finally, there are enough reasons to dislike her that we don't need to start baseless speculation.

[@bimates2690]

@@table2.0 Mate, you can dislike her for the tracing and NFT bit but seriously? Instead of people who actually deserve to have their kids checked on by pigs… This isn’t one of them.

[@oncreativemode5486]

i hope that kid doesn't get bullied at school over her weird and petty ahh mom, that would absolutely suck

[@jenk1092]

​@@casteanpreswyn7528 I completely agree with you on being against somebody sending the police to "check on" that woman's kids, but I do want to point out that a substance being legal doesn't mean that using it doesn't have a negative impact on kids in the house. Alcohol is legal but being raised by an alcoholic can still be a traumatizing experience

[@shrugsmemes917]

i audibly called her art, upon being shown on screen at some point, ''fuckgirl art''. i still stand by it

[@shanelbryant5638]

I used to follow her on instagram, you’re not wrong AT ALL

[@kieravermeal9127]

Ok, so I was trying to figure out what her art would be called, and you nailed it.

[@Its_Asteria]

What is fuckgirl???

[@penquinn6942]

Some wine mom def follows her so she can think she's "cool" and "hip" with her kids

[@wren_.]

it’s the kind of art those astrology girls with ugly tapestries on their walls would love

[@DAMAGEDCODA666]

Never heard of pinkcat until now, but the moment I heard NFT I knew that they would be hated for that alone

[@xiexien]

my jaw genuinely dropped at pinkcat’s comment about natives still living in tipis and arent being subjected to capitalism like 😭😭 yeah.. today the buffalo herd went north so we had to pack up the tv and wifi router along with the tipi and get moving along!!

[@f87582]

"not affected by capitalism" as if they weren't the first ones to suffer from it in america and CONTINUE to suffer to this day ( to her, not you btw)

[@CruelestChris]

@@f87582 I feel like the genocide was more of a factor than using currency to represent the value of goods, which some of them were doing already.

[@edorasmarauder5761]

@@f87582 Not the Seminoles in Florida. They got a casino.

[@ettaetta439]

​​​@@CruelestChrisThe California gold rush, which resulted in US colony invasion of shakily-agreed on borders and contributed to the genocide of native Americans, was done due to capitalism. Doesn't detract from your point at all, just an addition to it! Ge"n"o"cide is done for different reasons than capitalism, but unsurprisingly they usually go hand in hand.

[@fricka4798]

you know how sometimes in cartoons/comics theres a gag were they suddenly draw them realistic? and it looks super awkward to have a cartoony design be realistic? her art reminds me of that, except its most of her art. the design of the pink cat just being a flat pink blob with triangle ears works way better in her very cartoony and simple untraced style. the pink cat having a realistic face and anatomy is uncanny looking, and i dont think thats what shes going for

[@Archaneleo]

it's not even that, if this person knew anatomy and actually studied it instead of tracing, then they probably would be able to place those triangles and other facial features correctly and make it look somewhat better instead of... what she posts. Lmao.

[@eliseosterbrink8000]

I absolutely have to talk about Pink Cat's perfect utopia city BS. I'm currently in school for architecture, going into my fifth and final year (I'm also obsessed with self-sufficiency and gardening/farming), and I can guarantee you that nothing that she wants is possible. You can't have a high density city where every surface is covered in flowers or any type of plant. You can't grow the amount of food necessary to feed an entire city's worth of people within the given space, either. The public food gardens are a bad idea too- I'll explain why. I imagine that Pink Cat knows nothing about the seasonality of crops, the best planting and crop companion practices, or how to deal with pests, so I'll start with those. She'd have to choose crops that provide food throughout the year because, if you don't, then your city won't be able to eat it all when it's ripe and will starve when the crops are out of season. Even if you ate as much as possible fresh and preserved as much as you could of the rest, there would still be an immense amount of waste and there would still be starvation later in the year. I doubt that there would be that amount of foresight from someone like Pink Cat. But let's pretend that crops were chosen so that smaller amounts of food were available throughout the year. The next problem she'd encounter would come in the form of companion planting. You'd be surprised how bad monocultures are, and by how plants can thrive when grouped up together. Beans, corn, and pumpkins are a classic trio- the beans fix nitrogen into the soil, which the other two need to grow, while the corn provides a sort of trellis for the beans to grow on, and the pumpkins' wide, low leaves hold moisture in the ground. There are plenty of plant combinations that this works for, you just have to keep the general dynamic in mind to make it work. But it's unlikely that Pink Cat would understand or even care about the importance of any of this, or how crop rotation is necessary if you're doing monocultures (crop one year, nothing, then beans/peas- order doesn't particularly matter, but the land needs time to rest and recuperate and get that sweet, sweet nitrogen from the beans/peas). A third problem that she'd have to deal with is pests. Where there is food, there will undoubtedly be pests of many varieties. You could have anything from beetles to flies to rats to birds. There is absolutely no way to prevent these pests from swarming the city. They will ravage the crops and will make the entire place incredibly unsanitary. Some, like the birds and rats, can and will bring diseases that will hurt residents. It won't help that they'll likely be incredibly malnourished due to starvation. I wonder how she'd react to seeing the gardens being swarmed by filthy rats while covered in pigeon shit. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of other problems with her plan for a city, I just wanted to go into three that I know a bit about. Growing enough food to take care of yourself is hard enough, and you just don't have the space for it in a city. Even if the public gardens were scrapped and everyone subsisted off of hydroponic-grown lettuce or whatever from high density grow labs, there would still be immense amounts of malnourishment. Not all vegetables grow well in hydroponic gardens, and you'd be missing out on important nutrients regardless of whether or not you were limited by the hydroponic setup because of the vegan diet.

[@TecTitan]

This comment is beautiful and I wish there were many young eyes on this to learn from it. Thank you! :D Consumerism is a fact of the world we live in but solving these problems behind the scenes is sort of like a magic trick. Foolish people start to think growing food is as simple as seed + dirt + time and that's it.

[@Barakon]

That’s why it should be supplemented with agroforestry & forested farming of poultry, fish, & goats. Maybe also have methane collecting drones that can filter it out of the atmosphere & use it to power things, maybe can also have flags or screens with messages & what not. Solar punk can work, it’s just that folk like you have put more thought into it than pink shat.

[@Barakon]

@@TecTitanI planted cantaloupe & I hope that those cantaloupe vines are still okay.

[@SodaPopBarbecue]

Pink Cat would probably deflect with some crap about Monsanto and subsidies. Yes, more greenery in general is good, as is less concrete, metal, plastic and parking lots. No, you can't just swamp a city in greenery. As in no city beyond those designed with that in mind or has had it happen that way over time has the capacity to support such, or the capability to act on it past bringing it up at a meeting and it being bogged down by partisan grumblings. No, anarchism doesn't make the process magically work.

[@wren_.]

it kinda seeems like she looked at dubai, ignored the poop trucks and human rights violations, and went “yea this is a good city”

[@SirPunkie]

Listening to the interview about her “cult” was just. Hilarious. It’s word salad. None of it means anything. Complete baloney.

[@softzoner7256]

Profiteering is certainly forbidden in Islam. I’m Muslim, and I know being Muslim is not an excuse for plagiarism.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Speaking as a Christian, I find the idea of profiteering being a sin ironic. I’m pretty sure if it wasn’t for grifters, all 3 of the Abrahamic religions would be dead

[@BIueRingedOctopus]

I feel like most people should know, but I guess not :(

[@meh4294]

And not an excuse to be a racist, like AT ALL

[@lucasl202-61]

This entire situation feels like a comatose induced fever dream

[@Cattafang]

holy carp i was just about to say how “radicalizing the body” literally sounds like how cancer spreads throughout a body when cat started talking about it and then b pointed it out too-

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

I thought it was more like a prion disease.

[@spacemarine6212]

​@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 can i request an explanation of what that is?

[@wetthepeasheck7025]

@@spacemarine6212rion diseases are transmissible, untreatable, fatal brain diseases of mammals. Two examples are mad cow disease and chronic wasting disease.

[@ScorpionClaws789]

​@@spacemarine6212 extremely simplified, protein in the brain folds wrong, causes proteins it's in contact with the fold wrong, misfold cascades.

[@Chordata7]

​@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450both leads to desth ones just treatable.

[@Popironrye]

This is such a minor nitpick compared to everything else, but am I the only one who is super bothered by that in all her traced work she keeps the simplistic cat head shape facing front, even when the piece is clearly meant to be a 3/4 or in the case of Jamie Hewlett, completely side profile? Just makes the work all the more ugly ngl.

[@pondersprocket2274]

Kinda makes me wonder if she was going for the Mickey Mouse ears-always-forward look for the sake of marketability.

[@kodakasaur9518]

astro boy

[@csokissuti7343]

Sameee,I'm not a pro artist or anything,but when I draw I always look out for the propotions. +the flat colors she uses,no shading..etc it makes it less real and gives out less emotions. Feels like something I draw when I was in my anime phase at my peak age of 11. But I don't wanna sound hatefull,sorry.

[@windowcreeperbird9669]

I think she might trying to do the hello kitty thing were she is ALWAYS facing the camera in official art.

[@crystalizedhell36]

I love how she has thousands of followers and touts herself as a "female muslim artist going big time" and she only gets like. 4 comments and 9 likes per tweet.

[@circusofseraphim]

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if many of her followers were actually bought at the time. Seems in character

[@InvaderBB]

She probably bought those followers.

[@VonVikoGoat]

soo many muslim and arab women make beautiful art and she claims to be the best one? girl should stfu specially after she completely ignored the other arab artist in TCAF... ego is one hell of a thing

[@deaddawgz]

her actual art isn’t even awful, it’s not very skillful clearly but it has a simplistic charm to it which i can’t say for the uncanny traced woman-cat-thing that most of her “art” is

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Same issue as a certain grumpy octopus: she’s a good artist, but her primary subject matter is not marketable.

[@sazarjac]

Nothing feels better than watching the tracing going on in the background while the discussion of tracing is going on and thinking "oh, this is gonna go somewhere" and then getting that sweet, sweet payoff for paying attention.

[@AnyOccasionAsian]

Was anybody else distracted by how cool Ponder’s pants were during the tracing from real life portion?? So many pockets!!!! So much storage!!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@pondersprocket2274]

Cargo pants are *LIFE*

[@RandomPerson-ti7qx]

​@@pondersprocket2274May I interest you in even MORE pockets?

[@BunjiLovesBats]

Honestly I want cargo pants I just can find any 😥

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

Ponder Sprocket Pockets

[@pondersprocket2274]

You might even say…. *Pocket Sprocket?*

[@lostleeches1103]

Recognized the drawing at 31:18 being traced from one of my all time favorite artists J.C Leyendecker lol. He was a magazine artist/oil painter who was active during the 1890s to 1950s and was highly influential in creating the 1920s Art Deco aesthetic most people are familiar with. (Another fun fact, he was also likely gay and his partner was one of his models which is ironic because of some of pink cat’s anti lgbt sentiments 💀) The original piece is called “Couple Descending a Staircase” if you’re interested in seeing some beautiful painting strokes 🤌

[@muppetbabygonzo]

its almost impressive that shes such a hack “artist” that it didnt even occur to her to just bucket fill the background so the suit blended in like the actual painting. or… you know, draw the rest of the man. it just looks unfinished now.

[@bimates2690]

Pretty, but I rather fawn over artists who aren’t white. White artists are too overrepresented.

[@gitanemo]

Thank you for introducing me to J.C. Leyendecker

[@avery1703]

currently working on a study of the woman in that painting, and honestly the second-hand embarrassment I feel for how lazy that trace is... don't do that to my man leyendecker

[@imaginewolf4674]

Not my leyendecker lol. in all seriousness, his art is beautiful. I have some of his pieces saved as actual references. Also cause as a trans person, I wish to be that stylish lol

[@briaweea02]

Thank you for calling her out! The way that non-Black people of color and some White people boil Black culture down to “internet/American culture” pisses me off in a way that’s hard to express. For all her talk about the trauma of her people and insinuating that her theft of shit that doesn’t belong to her is her “assimilating” to White Supremacy and “American culture” is fucking insane because MY people were forcibly brought here. We have no ties to the culture we were stolen from. We can’t speak the language, we don’t know the traditions, how to make the food, what celebration looks like. Hell, most of us don’t know which country we’re from in the first place! Black American culture is what we created for ourselves out of the scraps of our past. It’s the language we made, our traditions, our food, our look, our art. Sure, I bet we look cool and confident, because we are. We have to be to keep from crying. But don’t ever get it twisted, it’s OUR CULTURE, not “American” culture, not “internet” culture, BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. So the flippant way that people treat profiting off of us, especially coming from other people of color, disgusts me. It’s a modern day minstrel show and it’s not okay at all

[@rubymckenna5169]

this is one of the best and most informative KZbin comments I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

People from other countries really don't seem to get how many cultures are in "American Culture" even the term american culture sounds ridiculous because of how vague it is

[@MysteryMortis]

​@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlongfr tho, like it's basically a cultural melting pot that includes several cultures, so saying American culture(I'm agreeing if I come off as incorrecting you lol) really is confusing and vague

[@falcon_arkaig]

I watched this video on how K-pop often times appropriates Black American culture. Even some Korean pop celebrities being seen doing BLACK FACE. Koreans see American culture and copy it w/o knowing the actual history.

[@seeleseeleseeleseele]

​@@falcon_arkaigooo what video is that. it sounds interesting

[@littletoddlerboy9059]

You know Glass Onion? Like the knives out movie? You know the part (SPOILERS obviously) where Blanc talks about how Miles uses big words to sound smart when they either aren't correctly used or arent even words at all, and how everybody sees it as innovative when it's just kind of...stupid? Hearing her words be read aloud instead of just text on the screen feels like that. Like it's so insane I have no actual fucking idea of what she's talking about when you break each point down, but if you showed me the text parts without a voiceover I think i'd fully be like "Oh yeah, I get what she means." Thats scary. That's so fucking scary, that people can just say shit and unless you really listen, you're deemed credible or at least more knowledgeable than you really are.

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

Glass onion was so therapeutic for me. Glad I'm not the only person who finds "new" and "innovative" ideas and trends as common sense shit dressed up in fancy packaging.

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

There's a reason pretentious people are so hated. And yes, for all you people whose assholes pucker over seeing someone use the word "pretentious" that is exactly the word for what is being described here.

[@ronniemokeev3322]

love them using warhol as an example for why this should be allowed when warhol literally lost in court very recently against prince

[@RougeOX49Unknown]

*Warhol estate lost, dude been dead since the 80s

[@ronniemokeev3322]

@@RougeOX49Unknown Correct - I thought it was common knowledge so didn't think to specify :,D

[@DanOfTheDumb]

I remember seeing a meme that said “RIP Andy Warhol, your lazy ass would’ve loved NFTs” or something close to that

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

​@@DanOfTheDumb😂 I'M FUCKING WHEEZING.

[@chocomelo454]

Prince? I thought prince died?

[@promethiada]

I wanted to do "take a shot every time Pink Cat weaponizes her identity" but 10 mins in I realized I'd die of alcohol poisoning

[@glassrosee]

She's skilled in saying a lot of words and them meaning absolutely nothing whatsoever ♡

[@kraziscribbs4552]

the person voicing pink cat should be a voice actor if she's not already. I was fuming the entire time lmao

[@makochanva]

Hi! Actually, I'm a freelance voice actress so you're spot on!💜

[@kraziscribbs4552]

@@makochanva That is so cool!!

[@Cattafang]

“eternal cat characters but with drinking and smoking” so she wants Pink Cat to be sorta like a Fritz the Cat-lite?

[@imaginewolf4674]

That's what I was thinking homestly

[@selectidiot]

thank you, I could not remember his name.

[@purpleYamask]

Yeah except Ralph has his own style and actual commentary 💀

[@rebekahscheu4245]

From the looks of it they looks more like extras from that awful Cats live action movie

[@InvaderBB]

Nah don’t compare Fritz to that walking dumpster fire.

[@__error_404_4]

I recognized the image she traced for the art she used to advertise her book sale (54:28) . I only recognized it due to the fact that I used it as a reference when I was practicing posing. It is Gil Elvgren’s "Thinking of You" portrait. There were a couple others I recognized but couldn't find the images for. I can't judge Pink Cat for tracing, that would make me a hypocrite. But I will judge her for her many other choices, one of those being posting the traced images, and even more for denying that they are traced or claiming it to be "sampling". I understand that tracing can be a good way to practice, but I don't think posting it is a good idea. (That opinion is up to change, but that is what I believe as of now) Either way, love your videos Ponder, have a nice day, kiss kiss, and keep doing what you're doin'.

[@__error_404_4]

Looking at some of her drawings now, I think she has traced a few of Gil Elvgren's pieces. Don't quote me on that though-

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I think posting traced work isn't necessarily _"bad"_ but it _is_ a *bad idea.* (*And by traced I mean fully traced, not done in the ways ponder showed) An acceptable application of it imo would be posting the sketch stages as part of like.. a megapost of your sketching and studying process, not individual fully rendered pieces

[@wordydird]

Tracing artwork is okay to post/share *only* if you are up front, give credit, and do not monetize it. It's good for learning and might help destigmatize tracing to artists who think they can't do it at all because it's objectively bad/wrong. HOWEVER, despite the fact that I think it's perfectly okay. It's probably dangerous to post traced work online even if you're open about it every step of the way. Like playing with fire yknow? But I'm also open to changing my mind. I'd never really thought about my opinions on the ethics of tracing till now.

[@mileidyclass]

Honestly, I didn't expect all of the accusations against her to be true, but turns out the people calling her out actually were right. Seems kinda rare for that to happen, so good job to everyone who called her out.

[@gummidon1618]

Yeah a lot of people accuse random people of that stuff all the time and I didn’t expect this one to be any different, I was wrong tho lol

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

If over 100 people claim you did the same thing, spontaneously, it's very unlikely to be false. We see this all the time. Lol

[@flustered8351]

Jamie Hewlett (creator of Tank Girl) literally animated the music video for ‘Dirty Harry’- an anti war song for Iraq…this shit is hilarious

[@pikapower_kirby]

Before the context of why you were tracing your art was given, I was honestly kinda applauding the decision, since I've found tracing my own art at times for pose reference or proportion reference can be really helpful, sorta like using bases only better. Edit: I also love how you traced over your own photos to make art- I feel like using our own photos to make faster art or better poses isn't an angle people regularly explore.

[@lepreking]

I agree, I "trace" over my own photos pretty often, but since it's to help me learn, I break them down into simplified shapes instead of just tracing the edges. I think the main difference is that you don't need to credit anyone when it's already your photos/work. Tracing to learn isn't bad, it's just not crediting and profiting off of it

[@SialiaCurrucoides]

I don’t like tracing but if it’s your own art- why not? You could say you did use your own image just for info but as long as it’s not someone else’s work or as long as your credit it and have permission (from the original artist) if you ever wanna profit from it. I’m unsure how tracing helps only because I haven’t done so myself, but I’ve also heard it can help a bit when doing portraits or need extra guidance in a way. As long as it’s credited or your own art and not stealing- again, why not? Maybe it will help you on your path? Who knows. Have a good day/night everyone. 😊

[@tivaspotato]

i honestly think she just doesn't understand how the ears are supposed to go

[@simplenlocal]

@@SialiaCurrucoides tracing helps some understand proportions and how different body parts look at different angles (if used for learning)

[@SialiaCurrucoides]

@@simplenlocal I see, I may try doing both. One of a traced figure and the one without just to practice.

[@roygbivthecolorblind_1842]

49:55 Completely off topic, but Siouxsie [Susie] and the Banshees are actually a really good band, i highly recommend them if you like gothic music. Specifically their song "Sick Child".

[@makochanva]

It... It's pronounced 'susie'?

[@someones_daughter_]

SUSIE AND THE BANSHEEEES YES ITS PRONOUNCED SUSIE MY LITTLE ZOOMER MUNCHKINS

[@Meowi_UwU]

You would think after 6 years of tracing other’s art, she would add some of those aspects into her own art and become at least somewhat better at it

[@lovesick_loser]

when someones art hasn't remotely improved or changed over 6 years of constant practice, it really goes to show how much they actually care about art...

[@csokissuti7343]

I know I'm late,but I used to trace alot back in elementary school. And now I developed my own artstyle. Still not perfect,but I am kinda proud. Lol

[@table2.0]

@@csokissuti7343good for you!

[@table2.0]

@@lovesick_losersomeone can be very passionate about art and not improve, it could just be that they aren’t putting effort into learning or applying new skills. In the case if pink cat, she literally just doesn’t try- in her original art or traced art

[@Spamhard]

That's the real baffling part. I've been learning art myself, and did some tracing of my friends art work, and photos, to get a feel for shape, posing etc. Literally within a week of doing that, I was already more confident in my linework and art. I can't imagine tracing for YEARS and not showing any improvement. I guess the difference is that amateur artists tracing to learn and improve are visualising and taking away something toitally different from someone tracing without thought and slapping it on insta for profit.

[@iheartfocas]

god mako's performance as pink cat was so good it made me somehow hate pink cat even more

[@RACOONAFIED]

Mako should do more of these cuz she is really talented

[@StarSlayyer]

As an arachnophobe, thank you so much for sensoring the spider. As an artist thank you for covering this topic with such an in depth level of research and respect for the community we BOTH reside in. Tracing for profit is disgusting and honestly one of the worst things you can do especially to an artist who isnt well known or is well known in their community but not outside of it. You take away profit that could put food on the table for others just to parade it around and try to make a quick buck by doing so. The way you worded everything felt cohesive and easy to understand. I am very glad you were the person I saw this topic about because I feel I gained alot more knowledge that I might have from another, thank you so much for all the hard work you put into informing others! I am a casual watcher so I am unsure if you have a team working along side you to help with research but if so I appreciate them as well! Research can be exhausting but its so well worth it when your end product is as informative and properly presented as this video! This was an amazing watch and your art has always been a favourite of mine! I wish you well!

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

wait arachnophobia is real?

[@StarSlayyer]

@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Yes unfortunately.

[@TecTitan]

@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong IMO the disorder should be the people who AREN'T afraid of spiders. Creepy lil things. The sensation keeps us safe from them and them safe from us. That's the natural world at work!

[@ZoinksScoob2006]

There’s no way these festival organizers invited this Killer Queen knock off without background checking. Whenever someone signs up to an event or even in 2 part Collabs it’s important to look into the backgrounds of the participants before agreeing or signing something. I hope the festival organizers looks into the backgrounds of their participants in the future.

[@ThatGreenMach1ne]

Holy crap Pink cat completely wiped all her accounts off the face of the internet Update: Only her instagram exists now.

[@RACOONAFIED]

Lmao 😭

[@SphericalNervousSystem]

Uhhh epic fortnight win?

[@artemismoore4176]

Wait what? Seriously? Lmao

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

Well that just gives reason to assume she's learned nothing

[@emrys6924]

i love your take on this but all i wanna add is that she isn't Muslim. she does mention that she is multiple times but she also says that she was "Raised with Muslim\American culture" and that she SERVES the goddess bastet(?) (the name is covered so i'm not sure plus my spelling is terrible so i apologize for that). just because someone is raised in a Muslim household\country\parents, ect. does not make them an automatic Muslim. yes she may have believed in Allah at some point of her life but as she tweeted herself she serves a goddess now - in islam your not supposed to believe in multiple gods as we believe that Allah is the one and only god. I just wanted that to be out their as a Muslim as I both don't want to have anything related to this person or my religion as again they said themselves how they serve a goddess. also i'm not able to add time stamps at this moment, but I will if I am able to at some point.

[@pondersprocket2274]

Thank you for the correction! I'll be sure to make note of it in the follow-up!

[@jordanjoestar-turniptruck]

That's like...the very first rule. Does she think there's a Muslim equivalent of "non-practicing Jew" or something...?

[@futonrevolution7671]

My headcanon is that she couldn't find a mosque close enough to fit her busy work schedule, so decided that the next best thing would be helping the local cat lady rebrand as a pagan priestess for the tax breaks.

[@Antsaboy94]

By the same token, us Christians should be allowed to denounce the Roman Catholic church, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons. There's absolutely nothing our works can do to make us any more deserving of Salvation.

[@afroteddybear]

There is the idea of a "Cultural Christian" or "Culturally Jewish" for someone who holds some moral tenants, but it not actively participating in the religion. Pink Cat *would* have filled that category, but her over all outlook, demeanor, and ethical framework do not match that assessment.

[@enderkatze6129]

The shark girl voicing for Pink Cat is very cute and deserves a much better role than Pink Cat

[@RACOONAFIED]

Mako-chan is a very talented voice actor and honestly she definitely was the best role for pink cat (in my opinion)

[@tvccreator_elysius]

Tracing is honestly not a bad way to learn things like poses and such - I know for certain poses, like contortionism, I had to actually go trace how the contortionists moved their bodies in order to learn what was natural and what wasn't - but relying on it as heavily as Pink Cat does is not a good way to expand your growth as an artist. If you never try to draw unassisted, you'll never really get better with your artwork. And I definitely agree, Ponder, that tracing art does give you more time. I have done a few pictures now where I end up doing my rough line art traditionally, then proceed to do the good line art and color digitally. I've spent a minimum of maybe three hours on traditional art, but then the digital art can be anywhere from a half-hour to maybe one and a half, depending on how complex I want my picture to be. Wonderful video as always! :D

[@Konpeimimi]

10 minutes in and I feel like I'm hearing the aftermath of all her drug use she's drawn about, since addiction was a very very common topic of her comics right as i unfollowed for the NFT grift

[@Konpeimimi]

WAIT HER INSTA IS GONE TOO??????

[@table2.0]

@@Konpeimimi good! She posted traced shit and was trying to grow a cult, good riddance

[@Skippyin]

Wow!! Pink Cat annoyed me enough to get me out of my art block!!! Can't wait to go proudly create my own artwork now!!! 👍

[@JohnDoe-uf3lj]

Hell yeah, man. Draw out of spite 👍

[@poptartpoltergeist9765]

Yeah! You go create that art! Share your skill with the world :D

[@Otomophobia]

same

[@burntbread12]

52:41 fun fact! the goddess bastet is the egyptian goddess of destruction i love irony

[@gloomiette]

been on a ponder sprocket binge lately. Very VERY hyped for a new video!!

[@rex_roar4459]

It’s great that, technically, the thumbnail of those video isn’t even clickbait cause she ACTUALLY said so in the video lmao

[@wondrousgamer3930]

The editing in Ponders videos never ceases to give me a good chuckle

[@I_am_in_your_castle]

i love the memes 😂

[@lobotomites]

pink cat’s traced work falls into a strange uncanny art valley for me, as does most work that’s obviously traced. it just doesn’t feel right.

[@Scott_Inksmith]

As a father of 2 who works as an artist nah. She has no excuse. I do art at work and art when I get home. I sit next to my sons while they play Minecraft and I illustrate and we talk all night and laugh. Also none of my professional pieces are digital so it’s very possible to do both.

[@someones_daughter_]

Wholesome father figure 💫

[@littlepenguin682]

Honestly, I feel like I recognise quite a lot of them and some of them are actually bases and it’s so obvious are traced, you can definitely on the forehead and body because they look so fucking weird and different from other pieces of her work, and it’s obvious that she’s not even trying to hide the fact that she trace

[@table2.0]

Yeah it’s so pathetic that she uses the same shitty anime bases with no changes to the forms that CHILDREN use and uses them just as well as said children lmao

[@radiacbec]

i've rewatched this so many times at this point, but I just wanna say the person who voice acted as PC and read out her tweets got the vibe across PERFECTLY. fuckin LOVE IT

[@peculiar_wood]

“Gonna welcome them to Canada by pouring Tim hortons on their table” should have gotten a thousand times more likes then it did

[@AntiVectorTV]

Of course she's inspired by Neo Yokio, it's always the weirdest people that are attracted to that show.

[@jordanjoestar-turniptruck]

Toblerones

[@hermescarraro3393]

The only time I laughed at that show was when they parodied the ending of Evangelion.

[@sammiesauls8365]

Not too much on Neo Yokio, i am weird but not Pink Cat weird..

[@lovesick_loser]

funny how the show heavily criticized for its sub-par character designs is the inspiration for an "artist" who also has questionable taste!

[@hermescarraro3393]

@@lovesick_loser Ok true. But the toblerone ship hits hard!

[@Xemaredux]

I love how Ponder does relevant transformative artwork in the background. Stay classy!

[@scrumptious_human]

31:35 I love the Tommy Tallarico meme, when watching this during the premiere I was just thinking about how good of an example he was of people lying about obvious shit with their names attached to those lies

[@ArcticFFox]

I love coming to this channel to hear some gossip only to get a genuine art history lesson half way through. I've probably learned more from you ranting about certain topics than I have from an art teacher trying to explain why we need to learn it. Thanks for that

[@straw-b6f]

The fact she’s just so open like “Yeah, I want to start a cult.” Like it’s just a common dream everyone has.

[@averageml]

I've had to go through this video so slowly because as an Iranian woman, who is also from Shiraz and also left Iran at a similar age (granted, I didn't go to live in the West, and I did return at many points in my life) it's so humiliating repeatedly seeing parts of your identity that is barely represented be used as excuses for frankly absurd behaviour. I find it very interesting however that she chose to include parts of her identity in the character of Pink Cat, such as being a single mom, but refused to represent anything from her genuine cultural origins even as she uses it as a shield. I know very well the struggles of maintaining a connection to your Iranian heritage when there isn't much in-depth sources written about it in English given how underrepresented the nitty gritty of it can be, and I know that as Western disapora she might not know Persian and thus might not be able to look at in-depth sources as well as I would, there are still MANY ways of gaining this information outside of that. Whether it's speaking to her family members or going to visit or speak to the very well established communities of Iranian-Americans or Iranian-Canadians in parts of those countries, there are SO MANY ways to find things to represent about her own heritage, even if they are small, in a way that would be more impactful than her trying to co-opt black culture instead. That's something that really infuriated me about this video. She so clearly doesn't care about the communities she's from beyond surface-level depictions in some of her artwork where she decides to trace from Aladdin or draw a ghutra sometimes. I didn't see anything that felt distinctly 'Iranian' to me, and it sucks given how much she uses it as a defense. It's insulting to see her both refuse to include her culture in ANYTHING in-depth or educate herself on it, and then use it to defend awful behaviour knowing that Iranians are typically more voiceless in the global media because of how often the Iranian government separates them from the rest of the world. It's a privilege that she, as an Iranian-American, probably finds it so easy to ignore even as she throws 'her people' under the bus in some aspect by making us look terrible.

[@MrAwesomeMatty]

I now finally understand what that reference was about in your Sappho video about the pink cat when talking about the artwork of the Zooier Than Thou podcast.

[@melasnexperience]

That podcast that interviewed PinkCat is sending me. That guy was already a fool for citing Eric Bischoff (who is about as "old man yells at cloud" in wrestling as you can get right now), but it's even funnier when you know that he "copied" his only successful story idea without credit/compensation from a Japanese wrestling company. In other words, "you remind me of another person whose claim to fame was something wholly unoriginal that led to massive financial ruin" was used as a compliment.

[@Chainsaw_Bunny]

omg i remember when pinkcat was plastered all over twitter, and speaking about how awesome she was on twitter spaces, and everyone was tripping over themselves to get an NFT from her. Thank god I didn't fold to the NFT pressure. Good lord the NFT era was batshit crazy.

[@RougeOX49Unknown]

If you have a problem drawing an original image to post online daily while being a single mum and running a business simultaneously. Then maybe it’s a sign that you have to cut back a little at the daily art thing. You know instead of plagiarising other artists work.

[@sloth4844]

Saba: "you guys who found out my criminal acts just want to hate us Muslims" Me, an actual Muslim: "Astagfirullah, why this Pink Iblis want to drag us through Naraka with her (¬_¬ )"

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

Is "Naraka" your version of the Fire and Brimstone Zone?

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

I hate people that try to use their religion (or lack of it) as an excuse to commit horrible acts.

[@sloth4844]

@@KittyKatt_Luna80s yeah, same functions, different names

[@sloth4844]

@@KittyKatt_Luna80s ikr, I hope she'll be cool if we chop her hands off. Because as a "proud" Muslim woman, she should know the punishment for stealing.

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

@@sloth4844 Thought as much - it reminds me of the Japanese "Naraku", which means that as well. 😀 Thanks for clarifying.

[@E0BQ]

The purple girls voice is MAGICAL, I want to hear it forever😭😤

[@makochanva]

Aaw thank you!❤

[@basiccryptid2974]

Absolutely crying that she said she traces because American imperialism yet traced an insane amount of Tank Girl. Like, the UK has so many issues in and of itself, but I fail to see how tracing a British designed character from a comic set in Australia sticks it to America

[@Notatruefurry]

My opinion on tracing is that it's fine if your using it as practice (I.e. tracing pictures of actual people to improve on anatomy or different body types) and the practiced traced art is not posted anywhere. In that sense it's fine cause your trying to improve or adapt. Tracing for any kind of social or monetary gain is never okay imo.

[@RACOONAFIED]

I do trace other peoples art because I want to learn how to draw in different art styles and combine them (that is if the artist allows that their work can be traced) and I have not posted it online cuz it's practice and I am not comfortable to show my practice work :') Also idk how to trace irl images, it's hard for me for some reason

[@Unhappytimeaper]

I also think there is one other sense of “tracing” which is models. Not like fashion models but it’s well known in lots of webtoon series that have to be posted in quick succession base models are used and posed to quickly trace bases, as well as often artists making their own stamps for details like eyes or hair that can be altered for poses in order to keep details looking consistent. Similar this can be done for objects or backgrounds too. In a sense this is a type of tracing that becomes transformative, as it is not solely a point by point “this is mine that I just kinda recolored.” In this way, yes, some creators do make money off of this but it still isn’t just a “I took this from another artist and drew over it,” and while it’s labeled as tracing which can be considered still controversial isn’t necessarily bad as I said requires transformative action/detail to be done (such as adding clothes).

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

The thing is, when we draw looking at an reference picture, that isn't tracing Tracing is just putting an paper on top of the original image and tracing it Using reference images is mandatory to learn how to draw

[@Notatruefurry]

@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 I thought reference was more so you have the ref to the side and you glance at it to better understand how it's supposed to look (I.e. painting a fruit bowl you see in front of you) What I'm trying to talk about is using images and drawing over them. Something I did a while ago was look for a handful of images of people in action poses (it was off a site that was meant to be used for art warm up) and roughly traced over the images to better understand how to create my own action poses and how to incorporate it into my own art style.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

@@Notatruefurry both can be used as reference Tho in both cases you need to do that with the intention of learning or for some pose or object that won't affect that unique look And generally people who just steal art and trace both do tracing instead of looking the reference because is easier and they also aren't doing it for learning

[@kitty-kade]

18:42 you know its funny how she basically states that she has a god complex because, like, smokey the bear told her as a kid "only you can prevent wildfires"

[@theonlyjer]

I'm taking a page from Pink Cat's book and impove my writing by studying great works of literature. By that I mean I'm going to copy/paste Frankenstein, change everyone's name to "Dennis" and change the setting to Fresno. I may also slip in an advertisement for Coke.

[@mustabulus]

Something I find funny is her thing with cat characters and how she’ll make hers “different” by having her smoke and own a gun and drink. Clearly she’s never watched Fritz the cat or read the comic strips lol

[@iprainwater7461]

I am forever impressed with the amount of patience you have, I am honestly jealous. God knows I would've torn my own throat out if I had to deal with this amount of BS.

[@kozekyto]

God knowing that she traced JAMIE HEWLETT of all artists makes me so freaking mad. The respect I have for him and his art-how much he has deeply affected and inspired me with my work-then seeing it ripped off and traced by this disgusting trash heap of an artist makes me so pissed off. I have no words.

[@weebtrash4916]

Charge your tablet pens girlies, we got another banger

[@prettyevil6662000]

Tracing photos is legit a skill though so watching you trace your own photo was pretty cool. It's a thing a lot of newbies who are learning using tracing paper stumble with since they try to trace too many extra lines in. Obviously only trace photos you have rights to trace though.

[@stupidmangoz]

That's not drawing then

[@purpleYamask]

I cannot stress how based it is to have "hypebeast capsule drops" paired with the goddamn Visorak

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Jesus, that triggered memories.

[@ConiferConnieTreeCow]

holy guacamole that pink cat woman is delusional. also thanks for including my fanart!! i jumped for joy when i saw it, and the part of the drawing where i made B's body disproportionately small compared to Ponder? sshhhh yeah let's pretend i did that on purpose because Ponder is tall or whatever hehehehehe ur short :3 (don't worry it's fine i'm also kinda short)

[@Doodles.Lion153]

This lady got mad at Canadians for the U.S.' crap.

[@Shatterstar]

"The US stole our artwork and culture." Canada: THEY DON'T EVEN GO HERE!

[@lepreking]

Man, Princess Caroline really fell off

[@Heartache_hh]

I love this comment so much OMG 😭

[@GiantKitten]

aw, FISH

[@InvaderBB]

I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO MENTION BOJACK HORSEMAN-

[@xzomby_v4mppx]

I love you guys. Thank you for bringing this up

[@denjidenji9162]

C'mon man, she's better than this, don't do her this dirty

[@jordanjoestar-turniptruck]

Tbf, I am loving your JoJo poses that you used for the tracing demos. 1:16:08 everything about her response melted my entire brain. I know that you can only address so much, but, goddamn... As a single mom myself, I always err on the side that "nobody gives a flying fuck." And if I'm gonna follow an Iranian artist who addresses social issues via comics, I'll stick to Marjane Satrapi thankyouverymuch.

[@valentinewhite9298]

Unrelated to this topic but I *love* your sona so much. They’re so fuckin cool

[@valentinewhite9298]

Wait they have homestuck vibes. Thats what makes them so sick as hell

[@Primfruit]

SO REAL

[@puttiplush]

The "you're not supposed to be there" spider pic was super cute! It was nice to censor the ref pic for arachnophobes but as an appreciator of lil' spookums, I was happy to see it.

[@BARITONEFAN35]

She Ponder my Sproc till I go Ket

[@rice8470]

I know this isn't super related to the drama in this video, but... God THANK YOU for explaining pop art to me. Omfg. My art teacher in high school made us do an art pop unit, and I swear she didn't know how to explain anything to us. The only idea I knew was that we needed to take something from pop culture and "repeat it" until it was "transformative." That didn't make... any sense to me. Now I know, based on your description, that the project I failed actually DID meet the specifications of real pop art. (That teacher failed like every single student unless they said they intended to go into art in college. She only passed them, and they got As if they spent hours after school working on their projects... ridiculous).

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

It doesn't shock me she doesn't think theres anything wrong with art theft since she thinks being in a cult is a good thing.

[@carnelian8414]

The cringe of this whole situation was instantly cured by seeing my fanart at the end alongside such beautiful talented art tysm B your videos always make me laugh 💕

[@cupidreindeer5601]

To the adorable Shark girl reading as Pink Cat; "Siouxsie" is pronounced as "Suzy". Just for future reference. :)

[@jojocaitlin8508]

People like her are EXACTLY why I dont upload my art to printerest, only my products. Im an artist and pinterest is an amazing tool for references, inspiration, color theory and palettes, etc. BUT that also makes it the perfect vehicle for theft. When I was younger I taught myself to draw by drawing straight from other artists work, it gave me a feel for basic shapes and shading. There's nothing wrong with that but what she is doing is so far removed from learning or positive use. Not to mention she doesn't even have a style, no shame in that but when you trace work or heavily rely on others and can't give it your own flare its just low quality, lazy content.

[@oakenshadow6763]

All those artists whoes art was stolen and use in that book should work together to file a class action lawsuit for plagarism.

[@MotherRat-ic6pd]

amazing job voicing the pink cat woman, the voice was nails on a chalkboard i almost wanted to blow my head off really fits her character

[@Lemooncakeslice]

this was a tough one to watch. To compare truly horrific chapters in history, specifically ones which she herself is supposedly born of, takes a special type of narcist. Imagine going to that extent over something not even close to a cause for it.

[@OGKoudelka]

56:50 learning how to pronounce a name is not hard. Just comes out as mocking since this is supposed to be recorded and not live. Cringe delivery.

[@ManzanaDeMuerte]

Right? Dunno who did that recording or why they thought it was ok and dunno why Ponder thought it was ok to use it for the video. It’s all pretty gross and in poor taste

[@arandomtoad480]

I like how Ponder sprocket is like an artillery cannon. She takes a long time to set up her arguements, but when she finally has everything ready, you know it's going to cause an explosion

[@jadecantfindthispassword]

Slow trigger, fast bullet. Take the time to make sure that it deals the most damage in the moment it’s shot.

[@pennycat6317]

this whole thing feels like an Ace Attorney trial like dead ass Pink Cat's ramblings sound like the actual convicts breakdowns 'n shit also as a quick side bar, you can mimic an artists style without tracing. I've done it multiple times, just by looking at the source material. There's a difference between tracing and taking inspiration, if she wants an artstyle like Jamie Hughlift then just try and copy his style without tracing, and add the "inspirations~✨" she gets from her life.

[@glassf4n]

this is fantastic to listen to while i draw! every day you upload is a good day -- despite how unsavory the situation is.

[@thegoatcarnival]

Love that you were tracing your older artwork with the same green cthulhu character throughout the video. It’s honestly pretty badass.

[@GloomyGhoulicious]

Her response to Ryan(42:20 for those who want it) is so fuckING FUNNY TO ME ☠️. The fact that instead of having an actual argument she just pulls the “look at this mean old cis white man harass a poor woman of color” card.