This is how cargo ships fight pirates WITHOUT GUNS

[@avocado7415]

firing an rpg at a navy vessel is like aggroing the enemy 40 levels above you and then getting one shot.

[@nicolaj9510]

I'm surprised they only returned fire with small calibre guns, and not the larger naval guns.

[@avocado7415]

@@nicolaj9510 they cost more per shot

[@arjensmit6684]

@@nicolaj9510Lol, imagine firing 2 ton granades at a 200kg boat. Yes, that would be the american thing to do.

[@arjensmit6684]

Yes, wtf are these guys thinking. The stupidity of this is astounding.

[@elliotgillum]

​@@arjensmit6684Sadly all our battleships are decommissioned.

[@robertgoodwin2787]

Can we take a moment to admire the pirates unfazed determination to fuck around and find out

[@derek8564]

well I mean look at them....IQ isn't their strong suit.

[@justanothergmailaccount1353]

They’re not exactly going after heavily armed targets now are they?

[@scottread]

er, no. they're gutless pissants taking on largely unarmed civilian vessels.

[@SheepInACart]

@@justanothergmailaccount1353 You didn't watch the video did you? They literally attacked a US navy missile cruiser and its escorting destroyer, thats maybe the second heaviest armed type of boat on the planet, and a member of the worlds largest navy. If they'd used a sea mine or something it would be an act of terror, but they used rifles and one RPG, its like trying to arm wrestle a freight train, not big brain behavior.

[@jogandsp]

​@@derek8564bro no. IQ has nothing to do with it. They're starving to death and have no opportunities to better themselves. I'm not excusing their actions, but you have to understand it's desperation, not stupidity.

[@thecommissaruk]

"Hey look, a Navy missile cruiser! LeTs roB iT!" The smooothest of brains.

[@StumpfForFreedom]

*Checks history books* Honestly... sometimes it works.

[@imthedentist]

With three O's

[@triadwarfare]

Reminds me of a VLDL skit "Let's mug em"

[@raymonds.9021]

The most desperate of people

[@gandalflotr2898]

It's like robbing Chuck Norris

[@stat8715]

time : 2am Me : Time to go to bed Me 2h later : "This is how cargo ships fight pirates "

[@OGPastryMan]

Lmao literally me rn

[@bryantsteury8910]

“I’ll sleep tomorrow”

[@UniqueHandle977]

Well uhh

[@kyushamx5114]

02:19 rn lmao

[@affordableslay]

Currently😂

[@Mokhtar22278]

As a full time pirate, I thank you for sharing this.

[@amitabhabhattacharya4051]

😆😅

[@chrisholmgren1595]

I operated a container ship in pirate waters from 2004 through 2010. In 2005 we were alarmed to see a report from the International Maritime Bureau that there were 3 attempted boardings in a week. That was later surpassed by 5 attempts a day in the following years. The insurance industry wrote a letter demanding the world’s navies do something. A western military spokesman said that they can’t be responsible for 6,000 square miles of ocean and that ships had to protect themselves. The insurance companies responded by voiding any policy where the crew was armed - it’s better to pay out a small ransom than for the pirates to view the crew as an obstacle and then have to pay 20 death benefits. The international community later established the IRTC where navy ships could respond to a vessel being attacked (if they felt like responding) - I’m not kidding. When I was home I would tell my friends about the piracy threat. They were shocked to hear and wondered why it wasn’t in the news. I said, because an American ship hasn’t been hit yet. Then in 2009 the Maersk Alabama was attacked and we all began to know about piracy in the 21st century. In 2010 I went through pirate water twice a month and there was at least one mayday every transit, but I had 10 meters of freeboard and could do 23kts. Those poor bastards with 5 meters of freeboard and could only do 13kts were screwed. I once was turning north into the Red Sea when I saw a thousand small skiffs milling about and a German frigate leaving the Red Sea at dusk. I called the frigate and asked, don’t you see all these skiff and that dusk is a time for pirate attacks. The frigate responded that the skiffs appeared to be fishing. The ship I just passed sent out a mayday an hour later and was taken by pirates. It may have gotten better, but it really sucked for us at one time.

[@chungusbooper]

I think your comment was cut off.

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

@@chungusbooper doesnt look cut to me

[@WorldxTracer]

Did your company ever hire on private maritime security contractors as things started to really get dangerous?

[@chrisholmgren1595]

@@WorldxTracer That wasn’t an option at the beginning. The original recommendations was to stay 75 miles offshore, then 100, then 200 and then 600 because they started using mother pirate boats. We followed best practices to harden our vessel with fire hoses and nets to deflect being boarded. My advantage was speed and freeboard, until one day we blew a lubricating injector off the #7 cylinder and had to stop just South of Aden Yemen. I notified UKMTO of my situation and doubled my lookouts. We were dead in the water for the hour it took to make the repair and a bit of time to get 70,000 tons back up to speed, all the time looking out for a little boat that could close on us in 20 minutes. We lucked out as it was a mildly rough day at sea so the pirates weren’t around. I was buzzed by a U.S. Navy P3-Orion while the engineers made quick repairs, which made me feel very proud. UKMTO posted that ships with speeds greater than 15kts and freeboard greater than 8 meters hadn’t been boarded, so the low and slow vessels were at greatest risk.

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

@@chrisholmgren1595 Wait... so the pirates were... using carrier tactics, sending over scout boats along the sea lines and then sending teams to capture vessels, so they were becoming professionals... Also with low freeboard ships mainly being tankers... chances are we in EU were suffering the most from these attacks.

[@yamatotakeru261]

Never would i imagine pirate deterrent would include MLG horn lmao

[@bryanfranco9597]

Powered by Mountain Dew

[@Basement_crusader]

Pack it up boys. This guy is a gamer, time to pick a softer target

[@BierBart12]

WOMBO COMBO

[@Redneck_Technophile]

A better pirate deterrent would be allowing merchant ships to arm themselves. You know, like has been proven time and time again throughout the entirety of written history. But hey what do I know? I'm just an asshole with half a brain and an inkling of literacy.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

brings me back to the mlg era@@bryanfranco9597

[@GlurglePop]

Contractors with guns cost a hell of a lot. And pirate raids are very uncommon statistically. It’s not financially profitable for the shipping giants to take on the additional cost and liability.

[@imantsjansons5009]

Also pirates can sue a company if the lethal force used against them and demand compensations 😕

[@nnakaudoh]

You think somali pirates will sue multimillion/billion dollar shipping companies?@@imantsjansons5009

[@magivkmeister6166]

Yeah pirate lives aren't worth the cost.

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

​@imantsjansons5009 the world reaction to them trying to sue should be 😂😂😂😂😂🤡

[@TheReal_birbwizard]

​@@imantsjansons5009 that's stupid.

[@screenshotskenya]

Hot 🔥🥵 boiling water works perfectly

[@novemberalpha6023]

Pirates: "HANDS UP OR WE WILL FIRE." Boat's Captain: "YOU HANDS UP OR WE WILL WATER."

[@AMig-ht8nw]

Thinks the pirate is a literal plant

[@minanminan9484]

GET PISSED ON! -cargo vessel

[@mrdan2898]

Actually explosive Diarrhea is more effective as a deterrent.

[@loudtim265]

Spraying from the waste tank isn’t a terrible idea.

[@mrdan2898]

@@loudtim265 Yeah. lol "If you don't want sewage on ya, stay away!"

[@poindextertunes]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@felixjiangkeshu]

⁠Prepare to meet my 200 psi Super-Soaker!!!

[@glennchartrand5411]

The main problems with giving the crew weapons: 1. If they fail to stop them from boarding the boat but manage to kill a couple of them, guess what happens to the crew. 2.Flags of convenience, Countries like Panama arent going to give ships sailing under their registration permission to carry weapons because Countries would start blocking ships with Panama registration from entering their ports. Which would ruin the whole "Flags of Convenience" thing for Panama

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

Not to mention, it would enrage the Somalis even further. Moral and legal complications to follow, considering (whether on what to believe or if its true or not) that these foreign fishing companies are what led to that issue in the first place because no one's patrolling the waters due to the civil war (though that couldn't be the only factor at play here)

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Somali piracy is dead, and has been for years. The UN anti privacy action also lowered the pressure from illegal fishing in Somali waters and the fish has actually come back a little, thus fishing is actually an option now for the people with boats. The Houtis are not pirates, they are attacking ships/trade for a political reason. Ie it's a war. A whole other can of worms

[@lordlopikong6940]

They could also get sued, by sacraficing a small ship and letting it get near a large ship and feigning ignorance that the small ship didn't understand the instructions and got to close to it. Because in the end, there is no laws concerning boats getting near each other.

[@13orrax]

4:45 the snake hose thing used to be a kids toy but it got recalled for killing too many kids

[@kaspervestergaard2383]

Had a loose hose with air spewing everywhere. Scary stuff indeed.

[@larrylem3582]

Water Wiggle, by Wham-O!

[@andrewyork3869]

What was it called, cause that's hilarious!!

[@Sai.Hottari]

It looks like it didn't get recalled.... It got *repurposed*.

[@andrewyork3869]

@Sai.Hottari it's not bad PR it's just an unscheduled rebranding.

[@EMG81xTHRASHER]

now imagine if they JUST USED GUNS.

[@crypt1d550]

Seriously, so stupid.

[@irishpotato8786]

It ain't that simple chief

[@EMG81xTHRASHER]

@@irishpotato8786 doesn't matter, just bring guns onboard, dont get taken hostage and deal with whatever happens later.

[@nadMoZzzg]

​@@irishpotato8786it's actually pretty simple, also they can use bows sword and tasers. They can even provide medical care for bad guys after all that, even give them some money and tea with cake

[@ItsNumber84]

Pay them to be armed combatants and they probably will. But don't expect the cashier to get into a gunfight to protect the Starburst. 😂

[@xuevgermanist]

6:55 Pirates *enter ship* British Navy *arrives* British Navy, "Well, good sirs, do you happen to know what we have been doing with pirates historically?"

[@cat_clan_leader]

Russian Navy literally firing at the merchant ship to scare the pirates lmao

[@kuhluhOG]

Prirate, "No" British Navy, "Hire them to rob our enemies, want that job?"

[@afj810]

the british navy were no better than pirates historically

[@_extrathicc]

@@afj810 The British navy was full of pirates actually, they just called them "privateers".

[@brianletter3545]

@@_extrathicc Now there's an idea!

[@zacksstuff]

They're shooting AKs without earpro, so idk how much difference an LRAD is gonna make.

[@BierBart12]

TIL AK-47s are one or two decibels louder than a jet engine on average Though, I think the difference is in the sustained noise vs one short noise with every shot

[@Redneck_Technophile]

@@BierBart12 I've shot my AK without earpro a couple times, definitely loud enough to ring your ears, definitely a dumb thing to do, but yea there is a big difference between short vs sustained. I can still hear ok though.

[@strilight]

Decibels isn't the only factor when making sonic deterrents, frequency matters too. An absolutely shrieking 4khz @ 160DB at the source, the likely area for suffering hearing damage stretches all the way out to 75m. And that's not even mentioning the fact that gunshots will mostly only affect hearing maybe give you a ringing headache if it's a particularly big round, but the LRAD is designed to shake up your entire body.

[@JAmediaUK]

I think you will find that it is the "certain frequencies" that are used that do it. Though I doubt they will use brown noise.

[@lethalradio14]

LRADS can make you vomit and give you bad headaches at close range or if your being blasted by it long enough

[@SteveRoger-dr3rd]

You forgot to atleast give some respect and credit for THE INDIAN NAVY , for successfully thwarting some some of these attacks lately and safely returning the held hostages , without seeing the nationality of the crew (A perfect example of love for humanity and world harmony)

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Why are Indians so self absorbed?! Other countries have been doing this for years but as soon as the Indian navy just shows up you want praise 😂

[@TS-bj8my]

The Indian military is a growing modern force, can't deny that.

[@pedro77167]

Love India 🇮🇳 even though I’m not Indian but that’s so nice of them 😊😊 India saved many lives and lots of money that day

[@DeltaEntropy]

Respect and credit for what the west has been doing for decades?

[@firstname405]

​@@DeltaEntropygenocide?

[@DarkBiCin]

9:45 - while true most wouldnt want it, the conversations are never about forcing teachers to but allowing those who are able and willing to do so. Just like how im sure there are some ship workers who would prefer to have some means of self defense instead of leaving it to chance if the pirates are gonna kill them or not

[@rekinlas]

How about using the "murder hole" method used in old castles? Find a caustic liquid, or maybe a low-viscosity glue, that can spill out through vents on the sides of the ship. I'd think twice before climbing into a noxious spray of superglue raining down on me.

[@ComiCherro]

"sir!, there are pirates attacking us! what do we do!" "flood the ocean" "roger sir!"

[@kraavok]

Underrated comment 😂😂😂

[@MrBrown-t3e]

Pirates have Migs and Apatchi .sir what shoud we do ? Rise Palestine flag

[@jeonggeunkim6002]

해적은 국제선박들에게는 거지들이나 떼강도 일뿐입니다 그러나 지들 나라 소말리아에서는 영웅이고 의적이죠 돈을 빼앗아 와서 어찌되었던 나눠 가져서 여자들에게도 돈의 효과가 뿌려지며 여자들은 다시 아이들에게 먹을 것을 제공하게 되니까요 ... 미국의 캘리 포니아나 일부주들에서 까만 사람들이 대형마트 자동차 전시장 상가 마구털어 물건을 가져가도 처벌도 하지 않거나 신고해도 아주 미약한 있으나 마나한 처벌만 합니다 과거 노 예로 일한 조상들 덕분에 동정을 받아서 ...그리고 그사람들도 미국인 국적을 가지고 있어 서 입니다 해적들도 조상들이 피해를 봤다고 지금 소말리아 인들이 노력없이 강도짓 해도 무죄라는 것은 좀문제가 있습니다 왕조시 대 같았으면 조그만 어선이나 상선들도 발간포나 미사일 달고 다니면서 그냥 한방에 침몰시켜 버릴텐데 ... 해적들 주제에 지들한테 포나 미사일 쏘면 과잉대응 한다고 뭐라고 하니 ... 해적들이 뭐 스포츠 경기라도 하는건가요? 상선들 선원들 목숨은 수시로 죽이면서...

[@AlpenroseShoujo]

​@@MrBrown-t3ewhy do u have to bring this country to everything 💀

[@chken-yf4qu]

Good one! 10/10

[@Sacto1654]

This is why I wouldn't be surprised if we get the return of the Q-ship--a merchant vessel that hides a plethora of machine guns and small-caliber cannons. If the pirates get too close, they're going to get hit by a something like an M242 Bushmaster gun.

[@r2020E]

CIWS more funni

[@Seawolf571]

@@r2020E Private! remove that direction!

[@Seawolf571]

"aye aye sir! removing that direction!"

[@andrewyork3869]

Can you commit a warcrime against pirates?

[@Snarkbar]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo that would be so mean and unethical! Killing people who are trying to kill you is WRONG!!!!11!11111

[@lyedavide]

I would suggest using extremely powerful IR and UV lasers. This will seriously damage the eyes of any pirate because the lasers would be invisible to them and they would therefore be unaware that they are being blinded until they become blind. Bad luck for the pirates but at least the ship's crew wouldn't have to kill anyone. A powerful narrow beam microwave emitter could also be a viable alternative.

[@TheStygian]

Yeah they are sadly not allowed according to the Geneva Suggestion.

[@aaamogusthespiderever2566]

@@TheStygianlasers are banned cus they too op lol

[@therecruitking1623]

​@@TheStygianit's only a war crime if you are at war, fighting off pirates is not a war

[@garethm54]

Ok, Dr. Evil

[@LN997-i8x]

​@@therecruitking1623"The Geneva convention doesn't apply to civilians" is a wild take.

[@painsama2791]

the houthis raid was so badass

[@ailende]

Waoh amazing 😊😊😊

[@fearthehoneybadger]

The problem with guns is that many countries won't allow armed merchant ships in their ports. That can be solved by having craft placed at specific points to allow armed guards to embark and disembark outside of territorial waters.

[@arjensmit6684]

Someone should start a rental service. When you enter pirate infested waters, there's a boat where you can rent a bunch of guns and turn them back in at a second boat when you leave the area at the other side. Sounds like a nice bussiness to me.

[@CPU9incarnate]

It can be solved by cutting off trade until they agree to allow armed merchant ships.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

@@arjensmit6684 That was my suggestion.

[@gordon1545]

Yes because what could possibly go wrong with floating arsenals of weapons?

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

It can be solved by not doing business with country's that are against basic human rights like to the right to self defense.

[@zynski3451]

Like breaching a castle - except the castle defenders have no bow and arrows.

[@stevenorrington473]

HELICOPTER! HELICOPTER!

[@garethm54]

Well, technically they do have a bow. But it's really big. And part of the ship. So impractical by all means (for defense, that is. It's totally practical for keeping your ship afloat though).

[@Shemegory]

Castles were usually sieged without combat, people don't want to starve to death.

[@F_Print]

Defenders have no bow and arrows but their castle can move and some of them pretty damn fast, a lot of pirate raids fail because the merchant ships can outrun or outlast the small motorboats with limited fuel and no ocean-going capabilities.

[@mackdog3270]

LoL yeah, those pirates who attacked the US Navy must have been drunk. Personally, if I were a pirate, I'd run away from anything bigger than a US Navy rowboat. Even then, I'd have to decide whether attacking that rowboat was really worth it.

[@devreed5931]

Probably not cause it’s gonna have a machine gun and one thing you don’t do it touch an American naval ship

[@praetorxian]

Probably high on khat.

[@EvanBlack11]

To be honest I think your chances of dying is higher with the Navy row boat or small boat. With the Ship they know there is basically nothing they can do. But the boats there is a small chance they could harm someone so they would take them out before they got close. Like really what would they done if they actually got on the ship 😂. Maybe the pirates just wanted a tour of the ship 😅

[@Azagoreth]

@@EvanBlack11 considering the gonzalez had a crew of roughly 280 sailors, they wouldn't have lasted long if they had successfully boarded... It was lose lose no matter how it turned out for the pirates... They either get shit on by the gonzalas, or by some strange miracle actually win and take the gonzalez, just for uncle sam to get Extremely upset and end up educating them on how destructive cruise missiles are.

[@1370802]

According to another comment, they were high on something called khat, and they became erratic on the lifeboat because they ran out and started going through withdrawal

[@alias177]

need to figure out a way to get more guns on ships for ACTUAL protection.

[@sto2779]

When Somali pirates goes 1-vs-1 war with a US navy warship... YOLO 🤣🤣

[@womble321]

Some do, in the UK. You can hire people with 20 mm cannons to protect your ships. They have licences for these things.

[@naimrommel]

*Pirates raiding by sea* Ships: *uses barbed wires and water cannons* Houthis: Not sure what that’s gonna do

[@HanyuRapui]

Houthies took pirates business to another level

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

They should have used the tactics that was used on the Houthis, against Somalis and other pirates before and it would have been dealt with. Oh wait.... No.... ...

[@Justin-ui5ti]

@@ROBLOXGamingDavidI think glassing should be considered a valid option.

[@NemesisOgreKing]

Until the oil runs out, then Saudi Arabia is on its own.@@YATESA8

[@EllAntares]

Well, they are army, not pirates.

[@philippprezewowsky90]

I never thought that I would ever comment this under a such a random video title, BUT: I've asked myself this for years! Thank mate, great video!

[@0antanum0]

Correct Title: This is how cargo ships get captured by pirates because they are without guns

[@HookerHeels]

Bingo

[@JenniferJames-le6wj]

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[@TERRALESA]

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[@VictoriaAllison-pv1wu]

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[@SelimOrdu]

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[@smvincent84]

Your comparison of asking teachers to carry firearms is an interesting comparison. In both cases the idea is not to simply arm all teachers or in this case all crew members. The idea is make training available and anyone who has completed training, or who has prior police or military experience can choose to carry a firearm. In addition you would also hire specific security personnel for this purpose and to oversee ongoing training. One reasonably trained sniper would be a hell of a deterrent.

[@harrkev]

But keeping teachers disarmed has worked out so well in the past! Yeah, how dare you bring logic into what is clearly supposed to be an emotional discussion.

[@shawnsg]

​@@harrkevno it's a stupid idea. Texas has been trying to get armed teachers in whole for over a decade and you see how well that works out.

[@BattleofYT]

Not What you think doesn’t understand but when u post u brighten up people day I just want to say thanks for that gse

[@CosmicAggressor]

If piracy is going to be an issue I am surprised we are not using convoy tactics. A single frigate or destroyer could effectivley defend a dozen or so large container ships, particularly if it had an onboard attack helicopter.

[@nothanks9503]

The pirates would get skilled and well equipped enough to succeed sometimes then you would have worse pirates to deal with

[@cat_clan_leader]

​@@nothanks9503what kind of pirates have firepower to take on a modern Destroyer? Usually a DD will only use small arms fire against these guys, but if push comes to shove then they will use their bigger guns, and no hand held weapon on a raft is going to be able to compete with that

[@Stormyy6310]

Because it costs a lot of money

[@nothanks9503]

@@cat_clan_leader I mean I’m not trying to give any idea but that’s just how it is necessity is the mother of innovation and some glass bottles and gasoline can still take down a tank today

[@cat_clan_leader]

@@nothanks9503 molotovs only work on a tank if it's badly positioned, terrain plays a vital role. If it's out in a clear open area then they don't work nearly as well. The reason they work is because they can stall/ruin the engine through the vents, or cook the crew if it manages to find its way inside the camped compartment, neither scenario really applies to a Destroyer A warship has the entire flat open sea, it's going to be kind of hard to sneak some kind of improvised explosive to it. And even if they do end up heavily damaging a ship, it will give that government justification to use heavier force against these pirates than just a single DD But they are welcome to try

[@Zurenza]

I think it's pretty different from trying to arm teacher's. The problem with the teacher thing, is a few things. First, not all teacher's are mentally stable enough to be trusted with a Firearm and we know that the measure's put in place in the US aren't enough to keep people who shouldn't have a firearm from getting one, as a case in Colorado Springs 2022 a person on an FBI watchlist who was known to be mentally unstable, obtained a firearm and proceeded to attack a grocery store. So, testing teacher's to be mentally stable, isn't possible(In the US). Second, it's hard to store them safely. Kid's could gain access to them and so they'd need to be kept extremely safe, so safe you might argue that it's pointless to have them because getting to them in an emergency would be to hard. You can't keep them on your person because there are hundreds of cases of students attempting to steal firearms from armed security on campus's. So, that's a no go. Then there's the fact that Teacher's would need to be properly trained to fire them along with also being able to act in a terrifying situation when they've already had training through teaching to use their words to solve conflicts instead. The FACTS are that, and as much as anyone who reads this would say otherwise or say that they'd be able to do it, when put in the situation to have to defend yourself or other's and to have to kill another person, even when given the means to do so. The majority of people simply aren't capable, hell the most recent shootings in Texas, if anything, proved that no matter how much people say they'd stand up and fight, they won't. Your body will fall to it's lowest form of training and experience when faced with Danger. If you don't have the experience, you won't be protecting anyone. This is without taking into account, teacher's don't get paid enough to put their lives on the line. International Water's and Sailing are about as far as you can get away from help in the modern day, I'd say there's definitely an argument to arm Cargo Ship Worker's, whereas with Teacher's there's not. BUT being able to hire security and such in both cases is a good alternative safety measure. TLDR: The teacher thing is a bit more complex both Politically and Safety wise IMO.

[@shawnsg]

Lol yet for some reason nearly 30 states allow teachers, in some capacity, to carry weapons. Honestly, I'd be more scared thinking about some of these old ladies, that I had as teachers, running around with guns than I would be thinking about being in a mass shooting.

[@johnhaines6546]

They are not forced to carry. Also, just the fact alone that a school is not a gun free zone and that a teacher might be armed would have the potential to ward off anyone thinking they are going to go into a gun free zone and have a free for all until law enforcement shows up 15 minutes later to stop them. Are we looking for a perfect solution?

[@iamnormal8648]

Why not just carry armed soldiers like airplanes in USA do? I was following the comparison to housr security and then I remembered you can have guns in the house for protection. Why not in cargo ships too?

[@GulrajBains]

Those few nutheads trying to take on US Navy was funny lol

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

"Let me remind you why the US Navy was even invented!"

[@nursestoyland]

The modern us navy (the one originally with the 6 frigates) was formed to protect their merchant vessels from pirate raids. They remember their roots

[@praetorxian]

Probably high AF on khat.

[@Reglaized]

It must have been a fight till death honor thing - like the Japanese in WW II. They couldn’t possibly have thought they would be successful.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

That rocket hole looks like a good way to breach the ship's defense

[@cat_clan_leader]

Not really. Those boats are made to take much more punishment than a single old rocket

[@andrewyork3869]

In that instance the would have just gotten stuck in a giant tank welded shut.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

enty.. not sink it@@cat_clan_leader

[@erasmus_locke]

Haven't watched the video yet but a lot of ships do carry guns. But only at sea. Before making port they offload the firepower to a second vessel offshore.

[@NotASeriousMoose]

They don't. They carry armed guards who embark and disembark in international waters. No shipping company is going to give out guns to their slave wage crews.

[@stefanc4520]

Seems easier to just have guns lol

[@wolfie954]

I guess this is why the pirates keep winning. How about they get some guns?

[@roland985]

Some do, and the footage is just fantastic to watch.

[@stevenantalics31]

Good video overall, but you're mistaken about the main point: cargo vessels routinely used armed guards when traversing the Gulf of Aden. Depending on the route, they are picked up outside the piracy area and they get off the vessel once it has safely transited or joined a convoy. I know this because I worked in the industry, and we regularly paid companies to provide armed guards expressly for this purpose.

[@BattleSyth]

I believe the teachers being able to carry guns is an optional legal stance. Not mandatory. They can if they are able and want to. Not made to. Similar to the crew, the legality of having one is what they want to solve. More like if the crew wanted to they could, the multiple countries makes it tougher.

[@GyanPrakash-xo5gs]

Or maybe, have onboard guards, like security guards in schools.

[@timmartin7664]

Hey they should use super heated scalding water, from the ships engines

[@tye829]

This is all really clever and interesting... but that said shouldn't you just also have guns? Is there some reason some ships don't have guns?

[@monitorlizardkid8253]

What I don't get is why at least some modern pirates don't wear eyepatches and other classic pirate accessories. I mean, if you're going to be a pirate, be a PIRATE.

[@Heythebrodyboy]

Whats next, yarr matey?

[@eeg-rh7jv]

Makes them easier to spot

[@deepsoft7829]

@@eeg-rh7jv as if it's not easy to spot a small-ass boat with a dozen of armed men on board rapidly approaching your vessel, tho I guess they could make a burglary move with putting on the accessories during their sail. Would've been rad.

[@atAPT]

I think you missed the point on allowing crew members to have firearms. Allowing is not forcing, options are usually preferred. In your teacher analogy, I know several teachers including several in my family that would gladly carry firearms at school if allowed. You are correct in forcing people to do something they don't want to do usually doesn't work out well, but forcing is a far cry from allowing.

[@allanshpeley4284]

Exactly.

[@qmerk2661]

i know this isnt about the vid(the security camera part), but for anyone that thinks of putting security cameras on your house, keep this in mind before buying some that are easily visible. a lot of people think of only one part of the camera, like " criminals will see them and think, i shouldnt risk it" other criminals will think "what are they trying to protect?...might be worth robbing" if you get some, dont get any that they can see.

[@penitent2401]

some private security operate by waiting outside of port in international waters with a chase boat or tender sized vessel that can be winched on board and gets picked up by the ship. then when they arrive at one of the destination ports, they take all weapons with them and go onto the boat and sits in international water while the ship goes in to port, then the ship would pick them up again on the way out. that way the weapons never enter sovereign borders. Also for one way journeys or if the ship only hired for part of their route, once nearing the last port the security guards would just chuck the weapons overboard into the ocean just before entering sovereign waters, ride the ship into port and take a flight back home. cost of the weapons would be built into the fees.

[@whirledpeaz5758]

Do you know the story of USS Dwight D Eisenhower vs Greenpeace? Palma, Spain 1988. Greenpeace wished to protest their "dislike" of nuclear power and weapons by graffiti tagging Ike's hull. Needless to say, the crew could not allow that. After all, the deck apes would have to spend a lot of time hanging over the side to clean it up. So, 2.5" fire hoses were rigged as water cannons, with M2 machine guns as back up, of course. Swamped Greenpeace's little zodiac boats and flooded their engines. They had to row back to shore. Ike remained graffiti free.

[@BigBoolinScienceMan]

Some electric motors with chain or wire flails would work wonders.

[@cat_clan_leader]

That would be potentially gruesome but quite effective indeed

[@VanquishedAgain]

These boats are like a thousand feet long.

[@richardashworth400]

I was thinking more along the lines of the giant swinging wall axe from Game Of Thrones

[@medievalwebman2917]

effective yes, ethical? no!.

[@Towelie-]

@@medievalwebman2917 Why not, it’s simply self defense, no one forces them to try come on board.

[@jeffreymissal]

Of course, the irony in all of this is that none of these measures are as effective as a relatively small detail in possession of an assortment of small arms.

[@Holycow723]

Real guns. Bullets. Flame throwers

[@missaniebananie6473]

All of those things can be used against civilians in the event of a takeover. Ships are also very very slippery so there are far greater chances of accidental friendly fire. Use your brain a little bit and remember that guns are rarely the best solution.

[@superkamehameha1744]

It's never what we think

[@BigStrap]

Just once, could it be what I think? 😭

[@gordon1545]

It was exactly what I thought.

[@old-schematic]

It's exactly what I think. US ships are the most available to pirates now because all of their crew are now disabled, gay and trans. So in case of pirating a ship, they just give up and start f**ing eachother, while the pirates can loot around. Simple

[@samanthagamage7077]

im a somali pirate and this videos was very educative for us

[@ناجيالعاقل-خ4ذ]

سفينة جلاكسي ليدر اخذوها انصار الله على اساس الضغط على اسرائيل بسبب حربها على غزة .. ربي ينصر غزة وينصرهم على جميع من عاداهم يارب اشفي مرضاهم ورحم موتاهم وامن خوفهم ونصرهم نصرآ قريب يارب العالمين

[@twilight4080]

Thats hard to be a pirate in 2023 year

[@stevel6220]

Nobody is asking teachers to carry firearms, only that they be allowed to if they are legally eligible to do so.

[@ash7324]

Part 2: This is how cargo ships fight pirates WITH GUNS

[@mattp422]

Why does protection of the world’s sea-faring cargo end up on the shoulders of the US and UK navies. Are there no other countries in the world who depend on importing/exporting said cargo who have the resources or resolve to contribute to keeping shipping lanes safe?

[@mkvv5687]

I watched a TV show following a Norwegian frigate patrolling around Somalia a while back.

[@doujinflip]

Not as intensely and continuously, no.

[@abraham2172]

The EU has recently decided to master a naval mission to protect merchant ships, I guess their decision making process simply is a bit slower. But youre right, some non western countries seem to think its easier to leave all the dirty work to western navies, complaining about "western imperialism" or some bullshit like that instead.

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Becuase the US and UK are the only ones dumb enough to protect ships not flagged in their countries. France is there, but only running convoys for the French flagged merchant ships. And don't conflate the present situation with the old UN mission to protect shipping from Somali pirates. Then everyone was there, Norway as said, neutral Sweden even.

[@nothanks9503]

It would probably be cheaper if they just sprayed 1$ bills at them it would be impractical for the pirates to pass up the money they would have to stop and collect the dollars and could only carry a few hundred dollars before the wet dollars became too heavy

[@oldspicey6001]

First reasonable idea

[@nothanks9503]

@@oldspicey6001 I bet it works

[@TomKnüppel]

Idk about the water tactics it’s a little more discouraging to tell back at home that you got sawed into 2 pieces by a m242 instead of “hey at my last raid I got a little wet but next time I’ll bring a umbrella”

[@Cige479]

لا تاخذ كلما تسمع دوما فالدول وأصحاب المصالح يغيرون الحقائق وفقا لأغراضهم

[@Donuts_random_stuff]

2:23 I’ve stood less than 300 meters behind a kc135 that took of and I’ll tell you: the jet blast was insane, the plane was VERY loud and our chihuahua was a kite for a moment

[@TheBananaRaamiz]

das good cuz if u stood behind the engines then youd get FULL ON BLOWN AWAY, so yeah, what were you doing behind a KC135 Anyway?

[@Donuts_random_stuff]

@@TheBananaRaamiz it was at a nato airbase in Germany, the kc135 was positioned all the way at the beginning of the runway and the wasn’t far from the fence It was at geilenkirchen Air base Runway 27

[@Jkush463]

i still think bullets are a far better deterrent than water or plastic barriers

[@bakedbeings]

Some large grit/sand blasting media added to the high pressure water might be interesting. Or a slick lubricant that could be sprayed on the deck. Also, I imagine the ship's engine/alternator can generate an awful lot of current, something that might arc to hand held metallic object. I can at least see a fun ship defense game/simulator in there somewhere 😂

[@coolsnake1134]

As much as that sounds effective unfortunately for other reasons it's not very practical, putting in abrasive grit into the water cannons will increase wear on the ships protective coatings leading to more maintenance, slimy grease on the decks can be time-consuming too clean up after the pirates are gone and can potentially create environmental issues if it finds its way into the ocean, and energizing parts of the ship or the water around the ship with stray currents from the main generators can be a safety hazard to the crew, lead to more electrical issues as well as increase the rate at which below the water line components corrode, you don't want your prop shafts or your through-hole fittings corroding. And replacing those below the water line components usually requires putting the ship into dry dock

[@bakedbeings]

@@coolsnake1134 No doubt they all come with challenges! At a point it'll come down to return on investment - is it cheaper than what they're going to be spending on piracy issues and insurance 🤷

[@GarGlingT]

Greek fire

[@clanakahati]

What about using powerfull lasers that can blind them permanently? I think it would be really efficient 🤔

[@محمديحيىالابيض]

قرصان × حظر مرور السفن المتجهة الى فلسطين المحتلة ♡

[@sgt_derpguy_2541]

My father told me that they hire guns for hire before they get close to Somalia, he said they usually hire a team of 3 or 4, fortunately they haven't encountered such pirates yet, but he told me that the cargo ship that was at the front of them got hijacked 2 weeks prior when they arrived at their destination, i forgot which port though

[@NotASeriousMoose]

They do, now costs about a 100k a passage. Quite a sweet job, riding ships back an forth in a dry hot climate for a 1000 bucks a day, tax free.

[@andrewstallings6548]

Water hoses are great but what happens when you run out of water

[@NotWhatYouThink]

Good point! ... wait a second!

[@ggolden]

ocean

[@SegoMan]

@@ggolden Like Dah!

[@gfdgfdgfdgfdgfdgd]

eesh 😐

[@JC.Denton.]

I believe the insurance companies that insure those ships and cargo don't like them having armed personal either.

[@946towguy2]

Some of the insurance companies only care about the cargo and vessel and really aren't concerned with the loss of replaceable crew.

[@wlink639]

Well, if they would be armed they would be more likely to get injured or die either by accident or in combat and who is going to pay for that?

[@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII]

@@946towguy2 that doesn't make sense. They have to pay out life insurance to the sailors' families

[@946towguy2]

@@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII Many sailors have to buy their own life insurance and pay the premiums.

[@946towguy2]

@@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII Also, mostt life insurance policies do not cover acts of war, insurrection or piracy.

[@kholwanindlovu559]

Pirates buy helicopters

[@thomaswalder4808]

Many large cargo ships have some kind of a secret panic room (that might look like a normal container) there the crew can hide in case boarding of the ship could not be avoided.

[@petegaslondon]

Looks like a normal container? Ah now THAT should work! previously i thought it a dumb idea, but "security through obscurity" - esp on a ship with hundreds n thousands of containers...!

[@Skittl1321]

They mentioned this. To call a mayday and then hide, since pirates generally can't operate the ship

[@stephenvine9686]

Fire & bullets would definitely work though right?

[@tonylam9548]

I hear a lot of dumb and expensive ideas here. Far easier to overcome what ever road blocks and have the ship's crew armed with the same stuff as pirates for a fraction of the cost. Instead of $millions to install pumps and spray nozzles all over a ship. A couple of M67 frag grenade , tied to a 3/8 nylon rope so it stays 10,12 ft above the water and explode there will discourage boarding, and unhealthy for the people on the boats near the ship, while the crew can throw it under cover. Ship's crew can also have RPG-7, and grenade launchers (the ones with grenades on belts like a machine gun) and up to 50 cals, so they can shoot back. If pirates see you have RPG-7, they keep out of range, which is good for tankers. Frag grenades will not harm a ship , with inch thick steel sides. RPG also works great on helicopters trying to land on the deck.

[@diewott1337]

International laws regarding firearms, as mentioned in the video, keeps that from being a possibility. There was another comment regarding training and costs, not sure if it went through, doesn't look like it.

[@Genius_at_Work]

The only Money spent goes to Barbed Wire. The Nozzles are Fire Hoses that are on Board anyway, and the Pumps are the Firefighting/Deckwash System.

[@t.c.b4722]

No way I'd go into pirate waters and not have guns to protect my ship.

[@us7876]

Call me stupid but why don't they use weapons on pirates???

[@KyoShinda457]

It sounds like everyone feels the crew is pretty expendable until it costs them too much money.

[@7chicken]

that is the unfortunate world we live in

[@Genius_at_Work]

Ship Crews being abandoned by the Owners is a fairly common Thing. There are numerous Cases of Crews having to survive without Food and Fuel (meaning no Power and Water) for Months, sometimes even Years, when the Owners got into Financial Problems.

[@nickkuzinski5380]

Maybe if these ships were allowed to have 6-10 mounted .50 Caliber Barrett rifles these pirates might stop their attacks altogether.. ???

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Would you allow random ships from anywhere in the world to come into your country's ports with that weaponry?

[@williamstandish2926]

You think that's a lot of weaponry? Then again, most people are idiots.

[@lorscarbonferrite6964]

I think part of the issue is just the cost of having personnel trained in using firearms vs how frequently they actually need to use firearms. Somebody who does not train regularly will not be effective in a small arms firefight, it doesn't matter what gun you give them. Now, maybe with heavy machine guns you can start to offset lack of training with sheer rate of fire, but the downside to using that approach is that you need a large stockpile of ammo to make use of it. For instance, the Browning M2 consumes 7.5 rounds a second at minimum. So, if a cargo ship were to use that strategy, they'd need to purchase a lot of ammo (and make sure it's all reliable), find some secure but readily accessible place on board to store it, train crew members on how to handle and properly store all that ammo, train crew members on how to operate an HMG, and make sure that the ammo in the stockpile remains reliable. No matter how you slice it, equipping the crew on the ship with weapons (including ones mounted on the ship) is a massive cost in training and logistics (and that's not even gonna be the entire cost). Hiring dedicated armed security personnel is likely the better option, but that's also going to be quite expensive, possibly even more expensive depending on how many security personnel there are going to be. Now, maybe all of these costs would be justified if piracy was an everyday occurrence, but it really isn't. It's only a problem in certain areas. The better option is to just contract a external PMC or armed security company to defend the ship while its in pirate-infested waters, which shipping companies do actually do fairly regularly.

[@TimmyLi-v1s]

​@@williamstandish2926Most people are idiots at at least one thing. You're only really an idiot if you argue that you are right despite convincing evidence otherwise. For example, my knowledge of firearms and vehicles is absolutely abysmal, but I admit that and avoid discussions of these subjects whenever possible.

[@williamstandish2926]

@@lorscarbonferrite6964 Most police in the US never use their firearm. Ever. Yet they are trained on how to use them. Lets talk about costs. They avoid the highly pirated water by going around Africa. For a round trip this increases fuel by $1 million alone. What was a little over a month 1 way trip, just increased by an extra month. Cargo ships normally take 4 round trips between SE Asia and Europe. To go around Africa, they would be lucky to do 3 trips. So they make less trips, and each trip costs a lot more. Now, you are saying it will cost the shipping companies more to go the extra distance, while shipping a lot less, than to spend a hundred thousand to arm the ships?

[@zolnte996]

How do you even have balls to go to a ship knowing that any time, 2-3 US Navy ships will show up and there is already shit tons of water spraying at the side of the ship

[@dahat1992]

Is this a joke? Five people took over a huge ship. That's an insane accomplishment, and it's definitely motivation for others to try to do the same.

[@Sicarius888]

@@dahat1992 Cargo ships look big, but don't they have like 20 people crew? Once they get on board, doesn't look that hard for 5 career criminals with AKs to control unarmed crew that probably don't want to play heroes with their wrenches and get shot.

[@MrCmon113]

They don't, that's why piracy went down again.

[@dahat1992]

@@Sicarius888 What's your point? Sounds like you agree with me.

[@Sicarius888]

@@dahat1992 I don't agree attacking a cargo ship is an accomplishment, it is a criminal act of theft and terrorism against unarmed civilians. Accomplishment would be to build a functional nation, not a lawless, unstable rogue state anarchy with powerless governments and civil wars. Or at least rob a navy cruiser, a fair fight against people who can and know how to fight back. Bandits just like those currently romanticised vikings and age of sail pirates. Rob and terrorize defenceless workers, run away from real military.

[@GillianSessions]

"Hey look, a Navy missile cruiser! LeTs roB iT!" The smooothest of brains.

[@Daniel1341-t2p]

Serious question why don't the ships just carry guns

[@shayisrael6137]

So the pirates, the ones that will not hesitate one second to take your life get to live another day. Got it.

[@CmdrTigerKing]

Imagine a world where the attacker has more rights than the defendant.. oh wait you dont.

[@MarcosLaureano-r2l]

4:57 when you drop the shower head

[@sondangthai4885]

Years ago, Captain Sarah’s ship was nearly attacked, but instead of weapons, she used smart tactics and quick thinking to outmaneuver the pirates, saving her crew and cargo without firing a single shot.

[@truckingoldie]

They should be legal to have guns to fight back that’s BS

[@CarbideSix]

11:10 Clearly these pirates were NOT the smartest individuals in their village.

[@pudlmaker]

If this piracy is such a big deal can we not just implement DRM into the ships?

[@Fankas2000]

DRM doesn't and hasn't ever worked. Piracy reigns supreme!

[@easytos]

They can pull a capcom and implement DRM 10 years after the piracy took place.

[@8bitchiptune420]

Make it online-only.

[@pudlmaker]

@@8bitchiptune420 Pardon? Ok, I know I am going off topic but here is a story. I bought a game once (actually 3 copies) that was online only, my friends and I played it religiously every weekend posting clips to youtube and having a blast! Then one day they just shut off the servers. $300 gone, no offline mode.

[@TheSaddlar]

Imagine when the pirates shot at the navy ship it just turned its giant cannon towards their boats

[@JohnDoe-ve5dh]

Regarding the firearms issue, I wonder how viable it would be to have all firearms routinely transferred over to a smaller companion vessel every time the ship docks. The companion vessel stays out of the country's territory, but still close by enough such that it likely wouldn't get robbed (plus with all the firearms on board it wouldn't be an easy target anyway)

[@SynthiaVan]

Or just lock them away inside the ship and don't bring it up..?

[@GraingyAircraft]

Fortresses never died out, they just went seaborne

[@tomseppe6406]

A reminder that somalian piracy became an issue because large multinationals overfished somalian waters so much that locals who subsisted from fishing lost their livelyhood causing many to turn to piracy as they already had boats and there was no longer an opportunity to earm through fishing

[@airgasmYT]

Ah yes, it is completely and entirely the fishing companies fault that these people immediately turned to murder, theft and piracy instead of doing literally ANYTHING else. What an apologist. If I lose my job because of stockholder interference, can I just go and commit crimes and it becomes the stockholders fault? Youre such a loser.

[@ProfessionalBirdWatcher]

The best defense is clearly the most silly and complicated one

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

The American Military Indusial complex way !!

[@God-ch8lq]

if it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid

[@Redneck_Technophile]

Hey we don't talk about the XM8 like that, H&K tried.

[@FreePalestine12341]

Bless Yemen. Worlds only nation willing to fight genocide without any direct benefit

[@paulofelipebbraga9634]

How about ships and companies just begin to ignore local laws and start to bring armed crewmen with chainguns/cannons onboard? Then if countries won't allow them into ports just boycott the region. SIMPLE!