This Is How DIFFERENT Warzone Competitive Is...

[@Sha1gon]

It’s not just the kills though. All of a sudden they don’t have the “map sense” or awareness, and their guns actually have recoil.

[@user-qn9ku2fl2b]

Or not. Also, OBVIOUSLY in a 30+ kill game, they're popping lots of drones, wipe players over entire areas (they don't get shot in the back because they've cleared it) and allow themselves moves like taking a balloon and hoovering to survey the area under (in a sweaty lobbies that quickly becomes very dangerous)

[@jackbourner7965]

The backpack removes the need to conserve plates, ammo etc. far more fun back in the day when you had to plan and work as a team

[@Jwet524]

Yes hopefully the smoke meta is toned down a lot with the removal of backpacks. When 90% of gunfights are just in the middle of smoke it’s not enjoyable to watch or play. Use and manipulation of cover/ coordination with teammates is so much better. I get use of smoke is good for certain situations but when it’s used as a crutch it just takes away from the gameplay. Map adjustments could also help so people didn’t feel as reliant on them.

[@OUTRID3R_117]

Smokes got completely nerfed for B06. The streamers at NEXT said they were unusable.

[@aleksandergjengst782]

Yeeeep!! Good luck running into a decent m&k player who thermal smoke shoot u😅

[@OUTRID3R_117]

@@aleksandergjengst782 if you need a smoke and thermal to win a gunfight against aim assist which completely disables it you’re literal dog shit at Mnk

[@josephlang9296]

Only thing with the removal of smokes is that the campers are going to camp even harder

[@user-qn9ku2fl2b]

@@josephlang9296 somewhat agreed; without smokes we'll need to be more strategic in rotations. Holding will be a lot easier

[@Tranners_]

Nice video but competitive Warzone just isn't fun to watch, not compared to the CDL anyway, the lack of GA's makes it feel like a casual game that has been forced into comp The smokes and streak spam is absolutely obnoxious, and I don't think it'll ever be taken seriously outside the few who play it.

[@geeery205]

Fact that Biffle had 4.0+ kd in this tournament is something different

[@mahirc3543]

Your absolutly right. But when their aim is night and day between at home and lan. i dont see a way to defend that.

[@TheTacticalBrit]

Different monitors, different resolutions, different frame rates, different input/Game PC latency. A whole bucket list of reasons.

[@mahirc3543]

@@TheTacticalBrit That could be true. Some pro’s perform like they are playing at home and Many arent so it is questinable. Maybe you could make a video on that topic to share your knowledge about it.

[@keithrenaud3380]

Why didn't all that affect the CDL players when they kicked the streamers asses?​@@TheTacticalBrit

[@solomang1]

You been so defensive on ppl playing in lan since wsow…… seems like you just cant admit to your self some of the ppl just don’t play even close as they do at home and I mean by awareness, accuracy, not just kills

[@DatBoiSaint]

1:07 Woah woah my question is why is the guy who drops 30+ at home & and has pinpoint accuracy not do the same & has bot accuracy at LAN 🤔 Then get destroyed & Quad-peated by CDL pros 😂 while calling themselves warzone pros. Apex pros still get their 20/30+ & do the same in the ALGS. Don't use that BS logic about not being able to do it in the hardest lobbies. End game zone/ring/gas damage should do more than just tickle your nipples! You can call me ignorant all you want but that doesn't change the fact those players don't have the same gun skill, mechanics or awareness when compared bedroom to LAN. (I only saw 30 because that's what the original commentary said) you can change it 20 & it still doesn't change the fact!

[@urchinsify]

Because he's shooting random bots at home. 30 is not even that high if he's playing random lobbies. If you actually watch competitive warzone CUSTOM lobbies you will immediately see the difference. 30 kill as a trio is already high for a custom lobby. The average K/D on a custom lobby is less than 1.5 depending on the trio. You are clearly ignorant of this topic.

[@DatBoiSaint]

​@@urchinsifyeven if I am ignorant on the kd ratios of competitive warzone that still doesn't answer the question i asked. How does he lose all his gun skill? Where does that accuracy go?

[@urchinsify]

@@DatBoiSaint Kobe playing in the NBA averaged 25 points. Kobe playing against bums like you would drop 225 points without breaking a sweat.. WZ pros playing at home can drop 30 easily every game. WZ pros playing customs vs other pros would struggle to even get 2. It's all about the level of competition. Concept of this is so basic it's baffling how idiots like you gets confused.

[@vice214]

@@DatBoiSaintmovement on the opponents side

[@johnjohn3668]

Even at home they never drop 30 in the "All Pro tournaments". Shifty has the record from home this year with 21 kills in the pro lobby comps

[@bigjimstream]

Appreciate the perspective. Comp warzone is boring as heck in my opinion. Watching 3 really good players stumble over each other for 25 minutes or so isn't fun. They all use the same guns, they throw smoke wherever they go outside, and they spam grenades and streaks. I recognize the talent I just don't want to watch it. For competition, I think they need to get rid of smokes or just nerf them so bad no one uses them and get rid of streaks. Let's see some actual gun fights. Also, let's have a meta that has a number of viable guns so that it's not 120 players running Static with STG with Jak optics. Predictable and boring. Lastly, they need to get serious about cheaters. Ranked is a disaster for cheaters. Who wants to sweat their butts off and get beaten by someone clearly using walls. Pubs are fun but the SBMM is cranked up so bad that unless you are a top 1% player, your K/D doesn't really benefit from practice. Ok, I'm done with the rant. Thanks again for the vid :).

[@BostilCensurado]

I only liked plunder, a bunch of madlads running around killing whoever they saw with the vague objective of getting money If you camp on FPS games you are 🧠💀

[@therumproast6721]

Such an ambiguous comment. Of course it’s from a European 😂

[@nerdedkyle3515]

And I can't wait for the backpack to be gone so we don't have people hording smokes and other things.

[@Mati10cabj]

Dude all my lobbies are the WSOW! I have a 1.60 KD and getting a win in BR is almost impossible.. rebirth not so much but I get bored of playing resurgence.. we need a better SBMM! And big map rotation!

[@nerdedkyle3515]

I've came across some pro players before I beat Iceman Issac 2 time in gulag back in verdanks but him and rallied both craped on me so fast on the actual map. I had shaded step crap on me during caldera. People should think of it like imagine LeBron James playing against high schoolers thats like Biffle being in regular lobby now imagine LeBron James in the NBA finals that what it's like for Biffle at the world series of warzone the players he goes against are way better than any pub player. I also came across it's iron during verdanks well just say I got sniped from so far away I was like dude got to be hacking then I seen his name and I was like ow we have one of the most winning players in here 😂😂

[@chal7467]

I am genuinely excited for warzone ranked on big map with no backpack and omni-movement. No more kill streak spam is a beautiful thing

[@L3XisLIVE]

Backpack was one of the worst additions to this game. Can’t wait for it to be gone.

[@goku..7]

Dude the game is full of cheaters and the streamers are the main cheaters tbh they never perform on LAN

[@Paul-tu7hj]

@@goku..7 why do you say that? Their shots looks just to same on LAN? Also, it’s much easier to shoot regular players than players with the best movement in the world.

[@KrypticTMG]

I understand what you are trying to say i have been around the sim racing Esports scene for years and the average Esports driver is so much faster than normal drivers in a pub lobby that ppl dont understand how, but when you go watch a Esports race there will be 20 drivers separated by less than 0.5seconds. The problem is with warzone tho is SOME of the content creators are above average but masking as top tier. I watch guys like Benny playing pubs and i can tell by his movement and his gunny that he is clearly not top tier but he will drop 30kills in a lobby of players crouch walking everywhere and then pretend its because he's elite when anyone who has a decent KD or has played Cod for a long time, like i have, knows when someone is VPNing or in constant BOT lobbies. Then they will get invited to tourny's be paralyzed with fear on the map because they know that on pure talent they dont belong there and it hurts the integrity of the competition and just makes it less competitive and thats why a lot of ppl dont take Warzone seriously and you always see CDL players laughing at Warzone as a competition. If you took a team of 11 grown men and put them in a football league vs kids teams and they destroy all the kids teams so you then throw them in the premier league even tho they have never beaten any serious competition it would devalue the league, and thats what happens with warzone.

[@DeanAmous]

If you think counter strike pubs vs cs competetive is basically the same, you lost the plot….im sorry but the difference is magnitudes, cs public or normal ranked play vs competetive pro league is like 2 completely different games

[@Existential_Institute]

Topic for your next analysis video: why so many noobs/ low skill players think (nearly) all top-tier players are cheating. It's an important subject, because it definitely undermines the audience and enthusiasm for comp Warzone. It's also an interesting one, because on the one hand you have the fact that identifying cheaters is a skill that develops as you play (when I first started, I saw cheaters everywhere). On the other hand, you have the all-too-predictable social dynamics playing out in chat rooms and comment sections, where the wary skepticism of noobs is whipped up into conspiracy-level absurdity by toxic troll types. And on top of it all, every now and then an actual cheater is unmasked, and the community goes haywire. You have the experience, analytical powers and (perhaps most importantly) trusty-sounding RP voice to educate a stubbornly ignorant public. Give us what we need!

[@ekimoleksander6068]

Quads is by far the sweatiest lobbies. If you que with duos into quads with squad fill off, the lobbies are totally different.

[@konmoe121]

Quads mean if you are outnumbered you're finished.

[@superjke718]

@@konmoe121if you’re a bot probably playing

[@tiredcaffeine]

I mean, if you go into a fight 2v4, then you should expect it to be sweaty, right?

[@ekimoleksander6068]

@@tiredcaffeine no I mean when you go in as a duo, it puts you in much easier lobbies than typical quads which is full of mlg pro gamers

[@gabrielhoyle7634]

You can watch the differences in the way there guns shoot compared to being at home

[@0ptic0p22]

you remember that tunnel lachy?

[@fud1376]

I've just been playing 'Hellspawn Purgatory''...Good for XP..Ha!!

[@nobodymissesphilofthefutur8237]

Is there a reason you don’t cover more Comp Warzone a lot then? I feel like having a few more analysis videos on peak matches wouldn’t be too bad unless you’re strapped on time.

[@UTLF]

This game takes zero skill, all it's boiled down to at this point is "who can abuse meta the fastest" MW3 is absolute aids to play in general due to the pure meta abuse that goes on - everyone is running the same 5 guns and spamming movement, competitive cod is a joke when compared to games like CS and Halo

[@willy7968]

Abusing the meta is a skill

[@johnlicciardello2389]

also, easier to cheat in Pubs than in WSOW

[@ekimoleksander6068]

I get killed by streamers all day long and I have a 1.4 kd 😐

[@evanjarvis7261]

@@ekimoleksander6068 it is what it is man, 1.4 kd puts you in the top 15% of players because of how sbmm works. This means some of your games are gonna have the top 1-2% of players, as the algorithm needs to give them “easy” lobbies from time to time to keep them playing. I’m in the same boat as you though. Died to the number 160 ranked player in the world with a similar kd to yours the other day.

[@mulishamccoy]

Love the prospective that no hacker hunter can understand. They all say lets see how they play on lan. 😂 no, they are playing the best players in the world, not some .8 kd nerd who can't shoot back or use thumbs and a brain at the same time.

[@DatBoiSaint]

So your basically agreeing to the fact they only play bots 😂, that they would & have gotten destroyed by actual pros.

[@mulishamccoy]

@@DatBoiSaint the average player is a bot to a good player lol im a 2kd if i fight a 1.5kd ill walk all over him. when i fight a 6 kd player they shit on me. its just the level of how good you are vs the other player now im top 3% in the world and thats good but if i fight a 3-6kd player they are going to whoop my ass. i get put into these lobbys all day with top1-5% players i dont play enough to get lucky on the one regular skill lobby they call bot lobbys. you watch one gamplay of these guys when they get a lobby and have a great game and think they get these all day. do i think they might get them more than other players maybe. or they just no life this game 9 hours a day for that one or two gameplays to make a video. and they play during the day when less people are on and get lower skill bassed matchmaking due to low player base.

[@therumproast6721]

Bro this comment section is why nobody understands competitive. It’s all jealousy disguised as criticism. Oh here come the jealous comments now😊

[@DatBoiSaint]

@@therumproast6721 beep boop this guy is a bot 🤣

[@rival2028]

People are ridiculous. I won the 'Dad' race at my sons sports day at school. So by definition im now ready for the 100m WR at the next olympic games. 😊

[@keithrenaud3380]

So if it took you 10 seconds to run 100 meters at your kids party you think it's going to take you 30 seconds to run the same distance against the best runner because they run faster?? Lol. It's actually the other way around forcing you to push yourself harder

[@keithrenaud3380]

And if all they do is crap on bot lobbies at home then they shouldn't even be invited to the lan tournaments where the CDL players kicked there ass. The CDL players aim didn't change like the streamers did.