THIS Is Missing From Your Karate｜Seisan｜Yusuke in Okinawa Season 2 Ep.5 【Shorinji Ryu Karate】

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[@DragonDreamVNY]

Very good 💪 Glad to see more from Okinawa Karate. Seisan and Hangetsu and Incense Boxing SamZhan... We need more practice 💪 Oss. 🙌

[@safdarkh786]

Much more information and much less drama. The way i like it. Thank you for this amazing knowledge. Oss

[@edwinjones1000]

Very interesting. I studied Okinawan Isshinryu. One can tell Seisan is the backbone of most Okinawan karate. Excellent breakdown by Sensei.

[@jessemelendez6305]

Hello Yusuke. I am really enjoying this video series. The forms are excellent and I am learning a lot about strikes and movement. I am also enjoying watching a mature young Black belt looking like a twelve year old student under the watchful eye of the Master. Keep it up you are looking great!

[@davidmatthews2983]

Our tan ren gata would be the naihanchi kata, but also fuujyugata kata also, But we also drill sanchin dachi and drill a lot of the tension and breathing like this kata, and we get struck by our sensei too to check for “tightness” but I love how the explanations are for valid reasons for the postures and stances, it reminds me of Honbu dojo in Okinawa, Also, I love the bunkai for the kata is done here. It’s with bunkai and seeing other styles ideas and concepts is really where I think karate shines, we have in our syllabus is wrist holds, grabs ect, that last demonstration would be another one to use, and I haven’t seen anyone do that exactly like that before. Always something new with bunkai and another use 🙌

[@milamotik3236]

This is the 1st time I'm hearing about 'Tanren Gata' thnx Yusuke-san

[@rbgalldayeveryday]

I love this video because this shows the deep science of Karate.

[@reefhog]

@AtR grow up.

[@cybermek]

Shito-Ryu has the tanren Kata from both Goju-Ryu (Naha-Te) and Shorin-Ryu (Shuri-Te). From Goju-Ryu (Naha-Te): Sanchin and Tensho From Shorin-Ryu (Shuri-Te): Naihanchi Shodan/Nidan/Sandan, as well as Ten-No-Kata and Chi-No-Kata (Fukyu Kata Ichi and Fukyu Kata Ni from Matsubayashi-Ryu)

[@officialblkreign9330]

Shotokan has hangetsu

[@1000corgilicks]

for adult beginners we have Junino kata which I think is like this tanren gata, but for upper levels I suppose it would be one of the Pinan katas 2-5 to use as basic stance and form practice. i love this series, Sensei, thank you!

[@thskywkr2147]

That the diference of do a kata for dancing and goodlooking and do a kata with power and intention of use for defense.. other universe here very nice tecnic!! The stability and power you can see that easily here in every movement.

[@salvatoreplacidoplumari3840]

well, I practice Matsubayashi-Ryu...My Sensei told me to always practice Naihanchi Shodan alongside other katas.

[@matsug5704]

When I first started our late Sensei would do us do Naihanchi Shodan 5 to 10 times jaja, that was even before I started with Fukyugata Ichi xD

[@mikkk7777]

In kyokushin our Tanren Gata is Sanchin

[@stuarthughes3747]

hangetsu from what i can see & gankaku

[@ketong71]

You can see where the Shotokan Kata Hangetsu comes from. BTW, you didn't show the ending of this version of Seisan. Can you post a performance from beginning to end? Thanks.

[@neilthackeray6640]

In Isshin Ryu we have Naihanchi and Sanchin as our foundation. Naihanchi is the mother and Sanchin is the father. We also do Seisan but it is usually taught as the first kata.

[@PetrusNicolai]

Sometimes I'm suprised rhat Seisan, in other styles is considered kinda basic kata, but in my style, Goju Ryu (Goju Kai), for some reason, Seisan is a black belt 3th dan kata.

[@XD_SPIDER]

In kyokushin we have sanchin kata

[@fury_juandi]

In Seidōkan, the tanren kata is matsumura seisan. Is done alternating between 45° shiko dachi (for uke) and zenkutsu dachi for gyaku zuki

[@DrWolves]

Beautiful

[@Burvedys]

That concept of tanren-gata is called heishu-gata (slow and tensed) contrary to kaishu-gata (fast and so-called combat) . Goju-ryu uses three heishu-gata: sanchin (as kihon), sanchin dai ni (with turns, traditional version as Go) and tensho (made from rokkishu to kata and as Ju). Seisan also is one of kaishu-gata of Goju-ryu (in fact, of all styles derived from crane kung-fu, even they are more of arhat like Shorin etc). It used to be a demonstration kata (or otherwise fukyu-gata although there is a beginners kata of such name) between sanseru (which is a basic kaishu-gata) and suparimpei (which is an advanced kaishu-gata). All these mentioned kata are derived from crane kungfu (Fujian Baihe-quan) and when I see this sensei training you seisan-gata it feels like it's Goju-ryu, not Shorinji-ryu (except he calls seisan-dachi, not sanchin-dachi but the name is from kata too and all tension and slapping are the same). :)

[@georgefoley9793]

I agree, as a practicioner of Goju-Ryu, I have yet to find a difference in instruction to what I have been taught in terms of technique. I suppose, the basics of Okinawan Karate apply to most Karate styles.

[@Burvedys]

@@georgefoley9793 : two styles of Okinawan karate, actually: one is derived from crane (baihe), the other one is from arhat (luohan).

[@georgefoley9793]

@@Burvedys Very interesting! I was only aware of the Crane derived Karate styles. Never heard of the second one you mentioned. I will look into it, since I really enjoy Karate history.

[@Burvedys]

@@georgefoley9793 : it's so-called Shaolin which is Luohan-quan in China or Shorin/Shorinji/Matsubayashi/Kobayashi/Hayashi/Sobayashi in Okinawa.

[@officialblkreign9330]

Shotokan has hangetsu

[@davidkennedy631]

In Koie Kan we Seisan.

[@hectorsalvarez]

completely unrelated, but it was SO AWESOME to see you on Paolo's youtube channel lol

[@sassuki]

Good application for Uchi-Uke 👍

[@ni3dzwiedz]

In my school tanren gata is heian shodan. We use it to practice hip rotation and using your legs to generete power

[@lisacohenhuff3278]

Yusuke-san, I love this series. I train in Seibukan, and our foundation kata is Seisan. It’s similar, yet different than this version.

[@YoukaiSlayer12]

Nice 👍🏽.

[@daviderusso1238]

Tanren kata is energetic kata, not only foundational. It's important for the structure, not for the basic tecnique. When I praticed Shotokan I had Hangetsu and Tekki Shodan, I pratice zhang zhuan (ritsu zen) in Yiquan now with the same function. Tokitsu Sensei explained well this difference. Thanks. ;)

[@batboy9997]

I practice isshinryu. Its very difficult to find teachers with this much attention to detail. The original instructors in the US didn't spend enough time learning these fundamentals before opening dojos over here. Shorinryu and Gojuryu are the foundations of Isshinryu, so I learn much more about bunkai watching them.

[@liyobridni8774]

Sensei im learning something more from you thank you so much ❤️...-now im in black belt 1st dan in Sri Lanka-

[@night_traffic]

How much time did it take for you to go from white to black belt

[@jle2500]

I know I am late, but isshinryu has all three, Tanden is the core of the one heart way

[@user-kp5pk6wm5f]

I was told at young age speed is everything. To practice blocks and punches a thousand times till I could do it fast. Then a thousand times more till your able to do it every time.

[@nonenone2907]

In shotokan hangetsu is usually a black belt kata.In kyan karate styles like shorinjiryu and isshinryu the first kata taught like a beginner's kata

[@nonenone2907]

Hangetsu is seisan also called seishan.

[@Jyeaton13]

From things I’ve read it seems like Shotokan has a lot of fundamental katas. There’s Taikyoku Shodan, Heian Shodan (maybe even all of the Heian kata taken together), and, as you said, Tekki Shodan. However, having said that, in the Shotokan school I practiced in, it seemed like there was no obvious connection between the movements in the katas and the movements in the kihon and kumite we did. (I only ever made it to 3rd kyu.) It felt like kihon and kumite were one thing/one set of movements and kata was another thing/its own separate set of movements. I never saw a single morote uke in kumite, for example.

[@kirvin2]

Shobayashi Shorin Ryu has Seisan, Naihanchi, and Sanchin as Tanren Kata.

[@ronjahn2579]

Uechi Ryu does Sanchin. All karate is Sanchin. We have a Seisan kata as well but it looks much different than this version. Thanks for sharing.

[@kdefensemartialarts8097]

👍

[@mattavila7889]

The biggest difference I’ve noticed between the Chinese and Japanese styles/systems is Japanese go hard where the Chinese balance soft and hard.

[@karaterevolutionkaizendojo]

Looks so similar as hangetsu kata

[@sassuki]

I wish Hangetsu would be trained like this in Shotokan 😢

[@karaterevolutionkaizendojo]

@@sassuki I hope so. 🥲

[@erlangga59]

Shoto has hangetsu as well as tekki

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

Any chance you will get to do weapons training with Oshiro Toshihiro? Yamanni Ryu is SO fun!

[@michaelborror4399]

He definitely has a good balls kick defense, I definitely don't like the idea of getting surrounded by a bunch of guys in a circle though. The knifehand blocks look strong anyway, but we tend to focus a little more on grabbing the floor with our toes and sending our energy into the ground, and trying not to get pushed over, at the dojo I learned at in Palmdale, the sensei there who learned from Hidetaka Nishiyama has only broken the floor one time though. It makes me more confident against not getting picked up with like the beginning of han sian dan and the feet together, or with kicking in general. It's definitely a good idea to pace yourself with some kinds of exercises though. Or at least more cat like otherwise than other people that might take the same class. Or even Hidetaka Nishiyama could step softer in some of the old videos sometimes. And breathing with ki aye sometimes. Like Musashi talks about with the three or four shouts, before, during, and after the battle is won or something like that. Or maybe one of the nine signs of the ninja with shouting. Or maybe more of an after the battle is won than during the fight shout sometimes.

[@MurphyAKA]

in jhoon rhee taekwondo, we dont explicitly have this concept but it is easily our kamsah (appreciation) form and the next form, jayoo (freedom), would i guess be kind of like tekki nidan or tekki sandan

[@bieneulm1982]

Isn´t Seisan what Hangetsu was extrapolated of?

[@richardford713]

Wado Ryu has naihanchi and seishan tanden kata

[@themaverickblackbelt8054]

Wadokai has both Naihanchi ( 内畔戦 ) and Seishan ( 征射雲 ) , which I suppose are fundamentals, and thus 鍛錬型. However our Kushanku ( 公相君 ) contains almost entirely techniques found in the Wadokai versions of the 平安 set. I think Wadokai teaches the fundamental AFTER the 真剣型, which would be the 平安 set and 公相君. Similarly to Shotokan and Wadokai, Texas Taekwondo teaches eight basic forms, the Pal Gae ( 팔괘 ) ( 八卦 ) set and two much more advacned forms, Koryo Il Jang and Koro Yi Jang or Koryo One ( 고려 1장, the original; 考慮 一) and Koryo Two (고려 2장 , the successor; 考慮 二). (This is very similar to 観空大 and 観空小). I don't think these are 鍛錬型. Our first black belt form is Keumkang (금강, 金剛). It has very little possibility of being directly translated into application. It does though teach standing for a prolonged period on one foot while blocking, blocking opposite directions simultaneously, and from a kiba dachi you must jump laterally one meter, spinning 360 degrees and punch across our chest like Naihanchi as you land IN KIBA DACHI... twice... for each side. This has to be Taekwondo's 鍛錬型.

[@peterflashman8100]

I noticed the punch bags in the dojos featured seem very low, is it to practise low kicks, kingeri etc or is it in place of a makiwara?

[@KarateDojowaKu]

Yes for lower attacks l, but I think compared to westerners, Okinawans are simply not as tall. There was a makiwara outside.

[@Sahil_Ambwani]

2:59 camera man can be seen

[@bratacus3]

This seems closer to Shotokan's Hangetsu than to Tekki...

[@brycekeeney4995]

Something I would like to know more about when it comes to the breathing in this kata is why is it an audible breath. When exhaling it almost seems like the throat is restricted to slow the flow of the air versus opening the throat and expelling all of your air quickly. Secondly I have heard some people perform this and when they completely exhale all of their air they make a clicking sound at the end. I was told this is the diaphram closing together but the sound once again seems generated from the throat not the diaphram. Do you have any knowledge on this you can share?

[@georgefoley9793]

In Goju-Ryu Okinawan Karate style, Sanchin kata and Tensho kata are done with this heavy breathing in order to create "dynamic tension", where the body is at the same time mildly tensed, but yet relaxed. It allows for extreme concentration of the technique and proper breath control - inhaling inbetween strike movements and exhaling on the strike. When proficiency is reached using "dynamic tension", the result is improved speed and power delivery aided by proper breathing technique. Also, not running out of breath during sparring.

[@fredricclack7137]

Shaolin- ☯️'forms' 🚫 start until After 💯"moves"; begin w/ Sets closer in length to Karate'

[@lasse1187]

Seisan kata

[@TheUndisputedGuy]

He reminds me of Mr Miyagi

[@samthescotsman]

i do shotokan but my schools training kata is taekyoku

[@kevionrogers2605]

Ten No Kata, Taikyoku, Fyukugata, Heian, and Tekki were created as introduction forms for physical education in the school systems between 1880s to 1950s. It's after black belt that the historical pre 1880s forms are introduced in Shotokan curriculum.

[@dro2204]

Never heard that the tekki katas were “training” Katas. Always was under the impression that Hangetsu was more like our training kata. Or maybe it’s just the way I was taught here in the US

[@kevionrogers2605]

Tekki and Hangetsu come from different styles. Hangetsu is a tiger style version of Seisan while Tekki is a version of the half hillock half Crane drills made into a form though Motobu said the forms nolonger exists in China the drills still do.

[@warrennass24]

Sachin, happoren, samchin

[@GutsMishima]

hey why is that youve never done a video about goju ryu with higaonna sensei at the honbu dojo??

[@MMABeijing]

Listen when your sensei talks. he says wrist at the shoulder level, corrects you because you did not get it, and immediately you lower your arm too much again. connect your neurones

[@clemencemadzi4469]

sensei in shotokan ain't hungestu one aswell?

[@timoloef]

Is seisan dachi same as sanchin dachi?

[@Ty_The_Bonsai_Guy]

What is the name of this Shorinji ryu teacher?

[@andysloane79]

Are you in Okinawa again right now? If so, please contact me. Thank you.

[@geoynigo3348]

I'm not interested in karate,i just wanna see this real japanese cutie here,yusuke huhu😭

[@Tetsubo64]

In Okinawa Seidokan we do not have a Tanren Gata in our official syllabus. However, some of us learned Sanchin Kata of Goju Ryu around 3rd Degree Black Belt. This is because Shian Toma learned this kata as his second kata, but later as a teacher, he was fearful the foreign students would not understand his limited English skills. Often times a practitioner will over pressurize the respiratory system instead of just the muscular system. There were reported deaths of brain aneurysms from this mistake in practice, so Toma Shian omitted the teaching of Sanchin until far later in a student's progression, and even then, he personally selected those he wanted to learn this kata. We do have Seisan as our first kata in our Shorin Ryu system, but it is not practiced as a Tanren fashion. We utilize the natural breathing method for this kata and all others.

[@timandjacquinicklin9596]

It's not missing from my karate , thank you very much . Christus Surrexit- surrexit vere alleluja Tim

[@3Pillers]

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