This is Not Rock Climbing

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[@REstrACIA]

HOW DID YOU KNOW I'M NOT WEARING PANTS?!

[@LetalisLatrodectus]

I like that you try to portray Dawn Wall as it doesn't count, but it literally opens with them getting shot at while rock climbing and getting kidnapped.

[@pengc6538]

And they push someone off a cliff!

[@emilyscloset2648]

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[@LiveIsOnWheels]

I was gonna comment the same thing

[@simonsimon9880]

Sure, but its totally unrelated to the film. It's a story from his youth. 🤷‍♂️

[@willwin4744]

That section was disconnected from the actual climbing part, the climbing for the Dawn wall wasn’t focused on danger at all

[@balazsjakabffy2556]

I see Alex Honnold's strategy: no gear, so Hollywood can't make a film that kills you by gear failure! Big brain.

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

they could make the rock fail. That would an innovation?

[@colinboice]

I would unironically watch a movie about route setters driven to their limit and holding the climbers hostage by making them climb something hard they set, great movie idea

[@cianryan4071]

The twist is they break the beta.

[@ironfrogpress1526]

Never seen any of these films, yet I am terrified of doing ant rock climbing or mountianeering... Probably because of news reports and friend's serious injuries...😮

[@stefanomorandi7150]

i can imagine a japanese or korean indie movie trilogy about this: SendOrDie, SendOrDie 2tiny2crimp, SendOrDie III dragon dyno... it would have over the top gore and CGI so crap it becomes great and it would become a cult classic

[@emma5757]

i also would watch this movie

[@ActuallyMichael]

I'm so glad to find out that I can start climbing/bouldering without dying in the first 5 minutes

[@AceRanger20]

Don't let him fool you! It is as deadly as the movies suggest! Within the first 5 minutes of being in a bouldering gym, a volume whipped out a knife and stabbed me in the neck. I died 30 seconds later from blood loss. True story.

[@Miles26545]

@@AceRanger20actually, it’s happened to me 3 times last week

[@exit_perry]

You know the bit in the movie where the guy falls to his death? That's a V2 in my gym

[@loopyninja]

I'm in the background of that Love Hard scene! It was shot in the gym I worked at, all the staff were asked if they wanted to work as background actors. Funny thing is the climbing displayed in the film and on set was not at all how you would normally climb in a gym. There's a part of the scene where the main girl gets dropped from the top of the wall 40ft to the mats and then just sticks the landing like she didn't fall 4 stories 😅

[@philosophiabme]

PewDiePie made a bouldering video. It’s all come full circle. Now it’s your turn to move to Japan and have a kid.

[@alexantone5532]

He already has part 2 fown

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

It's come full boulder. Or giant pebble.

[@philipppuchner1115]

Dude, you are ridiculously funny! And you had me with "this Alex handhold guy free soloing mount everest" ROFL

[@trinki8345]

I m still fucking rolling on the ground while writting this because of that joke

[@danielwesterlund1905]

"Alex Handhold" is a years old joke, he's just repeating old-ass memes that others came up with.

[@philipppuchner1115]

@@danielwesterlund1905 Oh, I didn't know. But the main point was Mount Everest anyway :)

[@MKW_K9]

Me watching this: but what about Princess Diaries? Climbing stuff: shows the scene from Princess Diaries

[@Rude_i_Wredne]

Jakob Schubert breaking a hold and barely holding on during FA of project BIG > some crappy gear failure. Hollywood, learn your lesson goddamnit

[@DAJ2000]

The route setters did it! It all makes sense now!

[@AceRanger20]

Who else did you expect? Your first hint should have been when they started using dual tex as foot holds... and not the textured side!

[@stev4was1]

They just needed new ways to realize harder routes.

[@loutrigaming4006]

Extemism is what makes climbing different it's like watching a biker doing an insane jump, it will make people more interested in the sport they wont start free sloing but it is the initial intigue which grabs people

[@bogdanvlad9165]

I think it keeps most people out of it

[@solipsist3949]

I always wished that we'd made a film about the construction of the NROCs via ferrata in west virginia in 2002. I wanted to call it 'The Lord of the Rungs'. Budump-bump!

[@jgonsalk]

Watch Cliffhanger again watch the scene where the girl dies again. If you watch carefully, you'll see that Frank is actually laughing like a maniac when she falls to her death! A hilarious blooper that made it to the final cut.

[@solipsist3949]

I remember thinking that Black Diamond should have sued the producers of Cliffhanger for showing their Bod harness buckle failing under body weight. Also Stallone had a literal bolt gun. Bang, the bolt's in with a hanger. Eiger Sanction was pretty well done. The accident where only Clint survives was based on the uber-iconic 1936 climbing disaster on the Nordwand (north face of the Eiger), when the party of four young Germans all perished trying to retreat in severe weather. That was when the face earned its nickname, the "Mordwand" (wall of death). The attempt to rescue the final survivor, from Wikipedia: " In the morning, the three guides returned, traversing the face again from a hole near the Eigerwand Station despite avalanche-prone conditions. Toni Kurz was still alive but almost helpless. After four nights exposed to the elements, one of his hands and his arm was completely frozen. Kurz hauled himself back to the mountain face after cutting loose Angerer below him. The guides were not able to pass an unclimbable overhang that separated them from Kurz, but they managed to get a rope long enough to reach Kurz by tying two ropes together. While abseiling, however, Kurz could not get the knot that joined the two ropes to pass through his carabiner. He tried for hours to reach his rescuers, who were just a few metres below him, desperately trying to move himself past the knot, but in vain. He then began to lose consciousness. One of the guides, climbing on another's shoulders, was able to touch the tip of Kurz's crampons with the head of his ice-axe but could not reach higher.[4] Faced with the futility of his situation, he famously said only "Ich kann nicht mehr" ("I can't [go on] anymore") and then died."

[@dougsundseth6904]

Probably also worth noting that one of the crew on The Eiger Sanction, a climber and cameraman named David Knowles, died during the filming. It was from the usual thing that kills people on the Eiger Nordwand: a rock falling a very long way and hitting someone. That wall is now fairly safe to climb, as I understand it, because people start very early (the middle of the night, generally) and plan to be off the wall before the melting ice starts bombarding the slopes with debris. All that said, mountaineering is a very different sport than rock climbing. They share some skills, but then so do running a 60m sprint and playing soccer.

[@sc9160]

Thing is, I do think it depends on the kind of climbing you're doing and what is interesting to watch. Cutting edge alpinism and big wall climbing (even for established/easier routes) is inherently very dangerous. I think the issue is the hyper focus on subjective hazards (like free soloing or poor/infrequent gear placement that fails) as opposed to objective hazards like rock fall, avalanches etc... If you've done a lot of expedition level climbing or alpinism these things happen all the time and are constant hazards. I was just ski-touring and climbing in the alps a few weeks ago and while touring on easy terrain was almost killed by a large rock fall, luckily it didn't trigger an avalanche as well - but it narrowly missed me. Another example, climbing in Bolivia I hiked to high camp at 17,000 ft. We wake up to climb and I realize I have SEVERE food poisoning. We sleep a few more hours, pack our things up, and have to hike treacherous terrain, at high altitude, while sick and with almost no chance of rescue if there is a fall or other injury. Those two examples are also common. My point being that big alpine climbing is actually very dangerous and showing those kinds of hazards would be far more interesting than people being blown up by nitroglycerin...

[@noone-ld7pt]

honestly dude, I don't even climb anymore but you're my favourite content creator. Would literally listen to you rant about a sock for an hour.

[@DobroSC2]

8:25 "Thats that one with Alex HandHold guy free solo mount Everest" LMAO

[@dickmcgillis6371]

I insightyolod mt Everest flash style and got the speed record too.

[@CykoruKun]

One of maybe two creators on YT where i don't skip the sponsored segment

[@dmytruek]

We NEED "Requiem for a Dyno"!!!!

[@outandabout259]

3:36 I literally almost choked on my food laughing at Magnus going to the gym to "jump up and down with a ball above his head" 😂 it might be the funniest thing I have seen all day

[@philipppuchner1115]

You cannot die in that pants!

[@CykoruKun]

Honestly, after a year of bouldering i've had less injuries than after one semester of handball or field hockey. And grand total of zero times have i gone back home covered in bandages with a bleeding scalp, so definitely better outcomes than football (the one where you actually kick the ball).

[@nathansmith3608]

Y'know, another thing movies portray inaccurately is driving cars. They're always getting in car chases, going off jumps, having cars explode, etc.! But I've driven a fair amount & I can honestly say that kind of stuff hardly ever comes up IRL..

[@CartoType]

And movies depict most Englishmen as ruthless and cunning villains. But I’ve lived in England all my life and hardly anyone is a ruthless and cunning villain.

[@Snazzy16]

Yes! I am a climbing fan and Motorsport fan here. Obviously F1 was an extremely dangerous sport in the past but it’s a lot safer since then. I mean a driver hasn’t died since 2015

[@noelvalenzarro]

@@CartoTypeWell y’all did try to colonize half the world which lead to the decimation of many groups and the cultural eradication of countless peoples

[@CartoType]

@@noelvalenzarro We did not just try, but succeeded. But that's flippant. To be serious, compare the results of British colonialism with any other colonial power, or with the rule of local rulers dispossessed by the British, and see which you like best. Also, take a look at Nigel Biggar's book.

[@solipsist3949]

For a great perspective on free soloing, watch Magnus's video from a free solo of the 200+ meter Armatron wall at Red Rocks, NV, with 'the' Alex Hannold, who appeared to sandbag Magnus into it. The pro sport climber Magnus was clearly gripped at times, while Alex casually filmed him with a big camera while balanced on narrow ledges. The desert-varnished RR sandstone is beautiful to see. At one point Magnus says something about what if he fainted and fell off. Hannold points out that it's the same behind the wheel, etc. But climbers take that kind of risk constantly, 'scrambling' on 3rd class terrain (using the hands but unroped) over drop-offs on approach and descent, and most elite climbers are as comfortable soloing short sections of easy 5th-class terrain as a newby is on the approach trail. Hannold is a mutant, but I think it's all relative.

[@agario5161]

Thank you my lord for the formidible entertainment you provide with each and every audio-visual youtube video :)

[@234i9]

I actually think a movie about gym climbers could be very good. It would focus on the atmosphere, camaraderie, friendlyness, why people go there... It could be fkn good. Just look at climbing channels on youtube. They aint full of actions and many of them arent the very elite climbers even - still they get good numbers because people are just interested in that world.

[@JamesBong3333]

Dude i would watch that movie about the V10 bomb

[@2009ASGJPJ]

When I find your content really funny, it‘s your „commercials“ that are HILARIOUS!! 😂😂Men. You‘re a funny guy if you don‘t already know that!

[@craigbritton1089]

Before WWII there were three to five thousand climbers in the US; with thirty to fifty deaths a year; now there are three to five million people who go climbing each year; with the same number of deaths. So as you said; much safer.

[@simonsimon9880]

Yup. Try telling people that rock climbing is statistically safer than driving, and they think you're taking the piss.

[@DavidMathis-c8v]

I feel for you guys. I'm a motorcycle racer and when I tell people how rare a fatality is in my sport they just flat-out don't believe me.

[@bkl8804]

This dude always cracks me up. Good shit. 😂

[@iVilius]

From a research arcticle "Evaluation of Injury and Fatality Risk in Rock and Ice Climbing" from 2010: "Overall, climbing sports had a lower injury incidence and severity score than many popular sports, including basketball, sailing or soccer; indoor climbing ranked the lowest in terms of injuries of all sports assessed."

[@noahh2338]

Stallone was the bomb in cliffhanger yo..great video!

[@antonmayten4927]

Actually there were Dynos in early climing! In Elbsandsteingebirge in Saxonia, Germany which got a long history of climbing, you got routes which involve "Sachsensprung" (may be translated to Saxon's jump) which is used to traverse between different rock towers. Also it is regarded a legitimate way of sending to just jump from a neighboring tower to the one you want to top. Oh and human pyramids are also allowed to send. They even got a grading system specifically for the jumps besides their general grading system. Example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJXSqoB6eL5go5Y (Triggerwarning: Rock climbing in Saxonia is mostly trad style without chalk and involes a lot of slab climbing on slopers)

[@Cr3ePiO]

Damn. Rugne are so lucky to get sponsored by some one as influential in this sport as "climbing stuff".

[@aphextwin5712]

A decent documentary about real rock climbing is “Jäger des Augenblicks - Ein Abenteuer am Mount Roraima”. It of course uses narrative to dramatise things but the climbing shown is legit.

[@r.ch.l]

Alex Handhold 😭😂

[@finnbordal]

Cool video. One example that often surprises non-climbers is that skiing and snowboarding are generally more dangerous activities than climbing. But obviously, saying you’re taking the family skiing isn’t seen as some hardcore thing the way taking your family out to the crag sometimes is.

[@UnleashedTraining101]

Taking the family to sushi train is pretty extreme too. Always a gamble.

[@jrigs30]

Another classic and entertaining take! thx

[@bogdanvlad9165]

I am a mountain biker and I feel the same about mountain biking, if more people only knew how good it is to just cruise through the woods instead most people think about huge gaps jumps drops

[@stefanomorandi7150]

i love your humor, great video! slightly surprised that when describing the 6 different type of climbing you didn't use 6 clip of magnus for extra meme points LOL

[@Space_Ache]

Your channel feels like it would have been massive if you were around in 2013. Your attitude is that of old legends. Good stuff.

[@charliezurhorst2523]

I love every ad you do

[@LuLzezRoflcopter]

How did he know I’m not wearing pants

[@Nightwishmaster]

Everyone's been too embarrassed to say anything but your webcam has been on this whole time.

[@OofHearted]

Fall (2022) is an alright movie about falling I mean climbing. 😆

[@thepr1ms_]

Rock climbing as a hobby was also portrayed in the Big Bang Theory a few years back !

[@Conradd23]

I think the issue is that it's hard to portray rock climbing in a compelling way to the average viewer because there isn't much of a team aspect to it, so that can't be a source of drama. Also there's no points to give someone with limited knowledge a frame of reference for how well the climber is performing. The only way to really make it compelling or exciting to an average viewer is to make it about danger. If someone almost slips and falls to their death but then manages to barely save themselves, that's a lot more exciting than someone getting a cramp and having to contemplate if they can make it to the top or if they'll have to repel back down. At the end of the day, making movies is about getting butts in the seat, and writers/directors have to make the movies that sell to the widest possible audience.

[@chrisotero123]

Did you watch “Iwa-Kakeru! -Sport Climbing Girls”? Pretty solid anime that covers rock climbing in a sports like story.

[@ethandoades]

3:41 that's Cimb Cincy in cincinatti. Did a USAC comp there a few months back and got completely fucked up on that orange route lol. also that black boulder was in the MYB round and apparently only one or two people topped it so hats off to mr. Climbing Stuff for making that move

[@lukemichelson4253]

OMG, new hilarity high bar set. Jayzus, you are on fire, man.

[@Candesce]

His Dark Materials is not a movie (actually, there might have been a movie? I can't remember, and don't care), but a famous (and well written) series of books, which references rock climbing, during which nobody dies! I suspect the author had experience climbing though, because he makes such casual reference of Friends and other niche climbing terms that I think it just went over people's heads anyway.

[@InterwovenElements]

The Thanos moment was unexpected xD

[@TeethToothman]

I didnt know until right now in my 36th year of life that the beginning of that Ace Ventura movie was from another movie

[@skateboardscott]

Alex handhold 😂

[@SanderBessels]

Yeah, the guy that soloed Mount Everest! 😂

[@gigabumm]

The safe free soloing is outdoor bouldering or deep water solo climbing. But I think all type of climbing is interesting.

[@srsheesley]

He does it again, solid gold!!

[@titancox]

In cliffhanger, the scene where she dies she’s wearing a black diamond harness which is shown to fail in an unrealistic way, black diamond actually sued and made some money because of this.

[@StefanMagMathe]

In Vertical Limit they also placing gear while top roping 🤔. They did a really bad job on "researching" climbing for this movie (or they just did not care).

[@craigbritton1089]

The actors actually called them out on this; like why don't I have a helmet; why don't I have beard stubble if I am fighting for my life for several days on a mountain? The answer basically was then the audience can't see your good looks as readily.

[@z1522]

At least the opening of "Cliffhanger" begat the great parody in "Ace Ventura, Pet Detective." The pathetic misrepresentation of climbing goes much farther back, into the adaptations of James Ramsey Ullman novels, from the Nazi vanquishing in the 1950 "White Tower," to the fictional Matterhorn first ascent in "Banner in the Sky," Disney 1954. Too often, actual top tier climbers of their day did the bulk of the actual climbing and stunt work, including the gawd-awful "Eiger Sanction," and "Cliffhanger," with Wolfgang Gullich and Ron Kauk selling their souls, WG tragically dying on the drive home from the final filming. "Vertical Limit" was also execrable.The common denominator in all was the compulsion to exaggerate beyond physics, the capabilities of climbers and even their equipment. Free Solo was a unique outlier, in that it focused on one special talent, with an incredible goal, and fully represented his actual deed without need for manufactured melodrama. I have seen far too many clueless gumbies new to climbing, attracted by KZbin videos, but very few newcomers enticed by Alex Honnold's climbs; and the legions of free soloists are mostly greatly relieved that Alex did what many posers talked about, because now no one else has to risk their lives on such a sobering, daunting, path. Simply put, very few ambitious climbers facing the level of difficulty Alex soloed, if set on the ground, could solo high enough to hurt themselves falling off.

[@rickyism1576]

I only recognize that opening scene of Cliffhanger from Ace Ventura 2. RIP to that Racoon.

[@stuffiguess7680]

I’m working on a cool outdoor dyno, will be in the Reddit at some point.

[@johnblack7862]

There are TONS of movies about climbing where no one dies: but those are movies made _for climbers_ (e.g., Reel Rock). The problem arises when you make movies for non-climbers. I mean, imagine a movie about Nascar made for the general public... wonder what's gonna happen?

[@MaxGill-z4e]

Free soloing is fascinating and learning about the people who do it is very fun, I think free solo is a fun watch, but I would hope that lay people wouldn’t equate free solo with climbing. Alex even points out all the time that he is not even close to being one of the best climbers and climbs well under the grade many of the greatest climbers can climb, what he does is purely spiritual for him.

[@bennettcontos3524]

Were you at North Mass Boulder in one of those clips

[@Wynneception]

Fun fact I never saw the ending of Cliffhanger For context, I was a kid when the movie showed on TV, it ran late and my parents had a rule where I had to go to bed by exactly ten p.m, so it didn’t matter that the movie was almost over, that’s the rule, no exceptions

[@lowestmoose5357]

The real football, what the one where it spends 90% of the time in their hands? MURICA ;) JK loved the vid, Alex Handhold gag killed me :D

[@darkaquatus]

I never understood why people complain about rock climbing movies not being realistic. First of all: it's a movie - it's not supposed to be realistic. But also, what else do you want it to be about? About some guy trying to send his project after years of training for it? Or about someone enjoying nature and being a world class climber doing all sort of crazy stuff? Or about someone new to climbing and working his way up to become one of the best? Or how about someone training to become a champion through competitions? Literally all of those things are out there on KZbin with either documentaries, uploaded tournaments, or simply people recording themselves weekly training to become better. All of these things exist already. There's even some crazy videos on here of free solo climbers risking their lives on a regular basis. So the only thing left to make is crazy, unrealistic, over-the-top, fictional Hollywood movies. Which is literally what they made.

[@gon_trek2481]

"football, the real one" unsuscribed, lol

[@emesefodor9287]

I was looking for this comment

[@RBNDB]

Did even mention valley Uprising

[@JackMott]

Dear Sir, I appreciate your humor. Sincerely, Me

[@craigbritton1089]

I would add that into the 1970s; one in ten who went to the greater ranges died each year.

[@EthanReviews123]

I was bummed after I bought free solo on KZbin and it’s only like 10 minutes of actual climbing

[@OofHearted]

Touching The Void (2003) is a great climbing film [great book also] and nobody died. 😏

[@micielle]

there is a rock climbing anime, though the 'fanservice' seems pretty heavy and realism is ehh typical to most sports animes Iwa-kakeru! Sport Climbing Girls

[@janhetjoch]

12:00 That would be dumb, yes. But couldn't you make a movie about indoor bouldering the same way there's movies about football; there is no thread of death there. Just a movie about someone training to be the best climber they can and winning the big comp or whatever.

[@JonOuellette-zd1ki]

More movie breakdowns!!

[@hiidenkirnu]

According to Game of Thrones attending weddings is more dangerous than climbing.

[@willmabe1918]

Comp climbing movie would be crazy

[@masonrinalducci]

Literally procrastinating my research paper I’m writing right now about the mediatization of current times showing this incorrect depiction of climbing safety

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Free Solo did get me watching random actual rock climbing content lol, so that’s cool. Dude seems nuts

[@Treevago]

I love your videos so much😂

[@BDLCrusher]

i would watch that movie for sure

[@nickbrough8335]

Have you seen Touching the Void, which is a semi-documentary alpine climbing film. No one dies

[@merryjane7558]

All these climbing movies and you don't even mention the greatest climbing movie of ALL TIME?! K2: The Ultimate High. Filmed on actual mountains in Pakistan and British Columbia, with the best opening rock climbing scene ever put to film. How does this not get a mention?

[@tartiflettefontaine2473]

Vertical limit is an absolute classic

[@z50king29]

"there's a bomb on top of the slab?" "BETTER CALL ANNA HAZELNUT!!" "slabby"

[@astrosherlock374]

Give a try to the animated movie "Summit of The Gods" it's not a rock climbing movie, it's an alpine mountaineering movie, but it's the best climbing I've ever seen. Surprise alert though, someone still dies.

[@scrappyclimber]

best climbing channel hands down. please don't burn out!

[@Cpt-Pugwash14]

How is free-solo NOT rock climbing? they are literally climbing a rock in the most pure form..

[@lidlpotato2047]

There are some climbing scenes in les rivières pourpres, and as far as i remember nobody dies while climbing there? However the kill count in total is still quite high lol, good movie imo

[@ONsharkYX]

Damn I love your video They are just perfect

[@ripapa6355]

I would watch that movie. It's like Die Hard in a climbing gym. Climb Hard.

[@coolbugfacts1234]

I'm not a climber, once I get above about 10 feet I'm done, even indoor walls are terrifying

[@squillbrock1556]

What about the climbing in catch that kid, I watched that so much in my childhood

[@tomdelisle8955]

"Just let her go" :)))

[@KelmoMusic]

he's climbing a rock, looks like rock climbing to me.

[@sundog6820]

"it's the most pure form of climbing" JB

[@JoaoPauloSoares61]

I like how you discuss important topics in a funny way, it's quite creative

[@renterjack]

Vertical limit. They had two other climbers fall on them from above. Their gear for 3 people couldnt hold up 5 people. Guess you might have rushed thru that rewatch a bit too fast.