"This is pain... historical pain" - Call of Duty Vanguard - Stalingrad Reaction

[@AliasAlias-nm9df]

It's not that bad. They only messed up the guns, planes, tanks, uniform insignia, military units involved, chronology, vehicle mechanics, and the city itself.

[@Choukai_Chan]

Lmao.

[@cebtember5551]

i like the sarcasm

[@nonebright8073]

Lmao the entire mission is messed up

[@misterymisterio8778]

What they didnt messed up: people indeed usually have five fingers in each hand, there was a ww2, at least 1 person died during ww2 conflicts.

[@eastgermant-72m1mbt5]

The soviet soldier at 46:17 is more interesting than the whole fucking campaign.

[@MustangVirtualAerobatics]

Vanguard somehow makes BFV look more Historically accurate, which is just fucking sad.

[@Sreven199]

Yeah, when Vanguard came out, the collective air around BFV was "perhaps I treated you too harshly" Especially that gunsmith wtf

[@Depressedwhale14]

@@Sreven199 STG-44 in .50 Beowulf. Pure insanity.

[@guardianof2fort964]

@@Depressedwhale14 I'm pretty sure Phantom Forces, which is a Roblox FPS game, has more realistic gunsmithing than COD Vanguard. And PF lets you put drum magazines in handguns, lets you turn an M107 into a CBQ weapon, and has multiple enchanted and/or otherworldly melee options.

[@majorblitz3846]

@@guardianof2fort964 even kid version of Battlefield 4 are more historically accurate. Although BFV has a lot of inaccuracies, it do at least put a light to the underrated firearms, while vanguard just downright make everything included underrated guns become cursed object as much as possible. Imagine BFV done that and I'll definitely throw up if I see Boys AT rifle with drum mag and thompson grip.

[@drakesucks]

@@guardianof2fort964 have you ever seen the Luger Artilleryman?

[@frostsoul4199]

"when did the Warmacht have shotguns?!" good question, especially considering that specific shotgun is a collectors item, even for WW2, because only about 800 of them were actually produced.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Luftwaffe had them but rarely issued. And definitely not that one.

[@frostsoul4199]

@@AnimarchyHistory yeah, i looked more into the details and the shotgun presented in Vanguard is the Becker revolving shotgun. they were an experimental hunting shotgun intended for civilian use but there were very few of them actually produced. the Luftwaffe Drilling would probably be a more suitable shotgun for the time period and setting.

[@blankblank8424]

It’s actually worse from what I’ve read only around 100 where ever produced.

[@blankblank8424]

@@frostsoul4199 the Drilling is the shotgun that was occasionally issued to the luftwaffe. It was also intended as a double use for defense but primarily as a survival weapon during the African campaign. It had 2 12 gauge barrels and one 9.3x74mmR barrel. Only about 2,500 where ever produced so it would still be exceptionally rare.

[@frostsoul4199]

@@blankblank8424 that is a fair point.

[@Interceptor00X]

I find it hilarious how the Germans managed to get that deep into Stalingrad so fast. They bombed it in the morning and were already at Red Square by evening.

[@tarektechmarine8209]

Maybe they actually won in that universe

[@AceOfBlackjack]

@@tarektechmarine8209 no they didn't. But it's hinted the nazis are gonna make zombies..... How else would they restart the reich somehow...

[@stuglife5514]

@@AceOfBlackjack ah I haven’t seen that trope before not at all lmao

[@justcallmehaterik]

Guess they updated their tactics It's now Blitzkrieg 2.0 Deluxe Edition

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

Animarchy on reviewing the midway mission: not great...but not terrible at the same time... Animarchy on reviewing the Stalingrad mission: *pure pain and sadness*

[@marseldagistani1989]

I was desperately hoping that the Stalingrad Mission would be Reznov and Dimitri. Since after taking Seelow Heights Railway, Reznov and Dimitri have been operating with each-other after the assassination of Heinrich Amsel

[@KomradeSeals]

Animarchy on reviewing the El-Alamein mission: *Total mental breakdown*

[@Not_MissHina]

Imagine historian individuals reviewing the vanguard, they probably had a heart attack, fainted surely

[@the_tactician9858]

Animarchy on Bougainville: *Faints from Holy Fury*

[@abysswalker2594]

@@marseldagistani1989 this was at the start of the Russian invasion so we could have seen one of them or the fountain they where in

[@triggamoment]

One thing that slipped by is the brother referring to the Molotovs as Molotovs. The Soviets would sure as shit not be calling them the insulting nickname given to them by the Finns, naming them after the Soviet Foreign Affairs Minister Vyacheslav Molotov

[@iconofsin5886]

Did Russians also call them fire bottles like everyone else?

[@pechkin9474]

@@iconofsin5886 yes, it has a lot of names but never "Molotov's cocktail", this name came to Russia to use long after WW2

[@RoyalDog214]

That's a forgivable reference since the brother wouldn't have been speaking English in the first place, and the Molotov was a loose translation for the Russian colloquial.

[@abysswalker2594]

@@RoyalDog214 well his sister is Russian so we’ll hear it like English but why in the fuck do they keep switching are they speaking Russian are they speaking English make up you mind

[@Somethingaweful]

World at War had the same thing as well so...

[@TheAngel_of_Death]

"Wait, a Le-Enfield? Don't you want to give me an obscure prototype rifle that never saw service?" - Nano, playing CoD: Vanguard

[@salvadorbras6112]

Let’s go I really like Nano he’s from my country 🇵🇹

[@TheAngel_of_Death]

@@salvadorbras6112 Nice, he's great

[@halo129830]

Our pidgion hating brother

[@HystericalHuntress]

Let's just ignore the fact that the grandpa's 'old Mosin' that's implied to be a remnant from WW1 or the October Revolution is actually a M1891/30 sniper variant with a PEM scope.. aka a top of the line, fairly modern rifle at the time. I believe it even has '1937' engraved on the scope or the scope mount somewhere if you look closely.

[@zacbergman3551]

Thats not a pu thats a pem scope which is accurate to his timeline of being in ww1 and the revolution

[@HystericalHuntress]

@@zacbergman3551 It has '1937' engraved on it and neither the 1891/30 or the PEM scope existed back then.

[@Lahnapihvi]

@@HystericalHuntress PEM was produced from 1937 onward and it definitely looks more like PEM than PU.

[@zacbergman3551]

@@HystericalHuntress no buddy it aint

[@zacbergman3551]

@@HystericalHuntress do yourself a favor and do some research before speaking

[@joehayes430]

Wait I just realized something she's a medic and she's supposed to be helping the wounded but she's fucking running away from them

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

Mowing down Germans with a PPSH-41 > Doing your job and helping out wounded comrades Vanguard does a really good job at glorifying the deadliest conflict in recent human history that is WWII.

[@chuckthewizard7288]

A medical personnel using a weapon in a way not intended to protect a patient is also a war crime as medical staff are non-combatants

[@timokohler6631]

@@chuckthewizard7288 lol, i love that, this game is about commiting war crimes and portraying them as heroic :D

[@bryanwills6688]

I'm pretty sure bombing medical tents is also a war crime. At this point in history almost no side was truly following the rules of War.

[@chaoticclonestudios]

@@timokohler6631 man and people think mw2 was the only case of this

[@wheelman1324]

I think the father got the medals during the First World War and fought in the Red Army during the Civil War.

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

My buddy and I came to the same conclusion when we saw that, he has the bust of Stalin as well as red army medals

[@Fallout_Arts]

@@MikeJones-qn1gz ye he must have been a hell of a fighter if he’s got this stuff

[@mr.monhon5179]

Yeah. Some of the Soviet generals (The ones that actually live through the Purge and WW2 even) started their careers in the Imperial Russian Army (Vasilevsky for example) and got some good amount of Imperial orders and medals to their collection.

[@canthi109]

@@mr.monhon5179 Zhukov also

[@commanderhurst3283]

@@canthi109 Zhukov was a chad. He was well respected for his tactics, and didnt give two shits about the soviet governmental command structure. He even had coca cola imported for him.

[@h21lad13]

king tiger in Stalingrad Me: so that explains it this is an hoi4 universe

[@naufaldaffa194]

Have King Tiger in Stalingrad, then German not gonna only take Moscow but also reach Leningrad with those advanced technology. I don't know anymore with this game pain

[@mr.monhon5179]

@@naufaldaffa194 Idk. If there're Tigers in Stalingrad the 6th Army probably would just run out of supply faster.

[@naufaldaffa194]

@@mr.monhon5179 Yeah, seems u right. Germany invade USSR to take their oil, but didn't have enough time to control all of it

[@Nugire]

"All that zombiemode timetravel stuff fucked bad with the timeline" is the only explaintion for this fustercluck i could even begin to accept...

[@ronanmcdonald6386]

@@naufaldaffa194 Well the Soviets have T-34-85s, so everyone is partying like its 1944

[@simplymadness8849]

The uniforms are the M43 tunic, specifically the officer’s variant with chest pockets. These wouldn’t have been seen until February of 1943. I think the colored shoulder boards were for parade use and the subdued ones with only the piping colored were for field use. The Mosin clip pouches are definitely post war variants. The Mosin itself is interesting because it has the earlier PEM scope which is more correct for the date than the more famous PU that’s the darling of Hollywood. However for whatever bizarre reason the rear sight leaf is just completely missing…

[@AnimarchyHistory]

I thought the pouches looked odd but I didn’t say because I wasn’t 100% sure. Glad to know my instinct wasn’t off. They looked more like Wehrmacht 98k pouches to me. And yeah I went searching through miles of reference photos trying to find any of the tunic with shoulder boards. Nada

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

simply didnt need a leaf sight, you must let the hand of stalin guide your shot

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

TBH even if the mission was in February of 1943 (at the tail end of the battle) it wouldn't be correct then, as the 6th Army in Stalingrad was pretty much abandoned without much supply (Göring's supply drops did little to nothing).

[@definitelynotakgbagent6612]

@@AnimarchyHistory the tank at 46:39 is a Porsche Tiger due to how the side pieces are and the fact the front is sloped. If you don’t know the Tiger P is like a regular tiger but it uses a petrol electric drive that made it a piece of shot but because Porsche had made hulls for the tank they turned it into the Ferdinand tank destroyer. Only one of these Tiger Ps had the regular Tiger turret and they wouldn’t see service until Kursk like the 2 other big cats

[@AnimarchyHistory]

@@definitelynotakgbagent6612 doesn’t look like a Porsche Tiger to me. Not very clear. I did do a whole video on the Tiger though including the Tiger P which you should go watch.

[@tronalddrump1193]

Even world at war knew the MP40 didn’t have a drum mag, so it’s “extended mag” attachment was one of the freak show duel mag MP40’s.

[@Gen_ShadowCompany_203]

All that is is a double magazine fed MP 40 with one magazine

[@adamg7984]

I haven't played WAW in a long time. Did they model the need to slide the mag over and pull the bolt back for the duel MP40 mags? I mean once the gun had fired it's first 32 rounds. Or did they just make it 64 rounds of continuous fire?

[@tronalddrump1193]

@@adamg7984 for gameplay purposes it’s just 64 rounds of continuous fire, but the model is done accurately.

[@matthewlor6605]

Vanguard’s weapon customization is a curse. Even more so since it’s everywhere in the campaign with STG-44s with drum mags and every gun having an optical sight

[@Gen_ShadowCompany_203]

For a more realistic accuracy in the Campaign, I think the concept would be like this: The MP-40 will have a conversion of the MP-41 with the Karausnick 317mm 04B barrel and the VVD 34m stock attachments Just for the hell of it, staying with the Nydar Model 47 on the MP-40 even if it's not a sight used during WWII, it is the only realistic sight The Kar98k will have the Karausnick Scout barrel attachment as it's only a wrap around the default barrel The STG44 will have the ZF4 3.5x Rifle Scope sight since it's similar to the scopes put onto the rifle during the war The rest of the weaponry will not be given attachments such as the Itra Burst in North Africa, the Volkssturmgewehr, Einhorn Revolving, and MG42 Don't take this too seriously for still having attachments, it's just a concept

[@MrDwarfpitcher]

Yeah Fallout 4 had that Customization with ludicrous options. But that had a large dose of fantasy. Meanwhile, I can wield an MG42 without a stock and a Thompson style front grip. I am talking about a gun chambered 7.92 mm Mauser. It has a rpm of 1000 to 1500 rounds per minute (claims vary, dunno why) And you are going to shoot is, like a pistol cartridge Thompson? And without a stock?? As a normally build conscript??? Totally realistic and historically accurate

[@bobdickens3674]

@@MrDwarfpitcher did you just fucking compare fallout 4 to a game that is supposed to be an accurate historical recreation? What the fuck? That’s like comparing super Mario to plumber simulator

[@magni5648]

My personal "favourites" are a) the Type 11 LMG reloading by literally tearing off the ammo hopper and slamming in a new, full one. b) the fucking stock-less Stg-44, becuase hey, what's a reocil spring needed for anyway? c) MG42 without the recoil booster, which would effectively turn it into a very complex bolt-action gun.

[@magni5648]

@LOAN NGUYEN IIRC dismounting the hopper is rather more involved than jsut ripping it right out as if it's just a weird-looking detachable magazine.

[@agentcoxack7368]

Years ago, we crept through shadows like rats. We hunted our enemy like any other animal. We knew one day we would take the fight to their land - their people - their blood. In Vanguard, you’re a superhero girl who commits innumerable war crimes while posing as a medic.

[@v.k.rt.m.6030]

Who is favored by the Writer of the freaking game.

[@victorio2005]

Where are Reznov and Dimitri when you need them?

[@NashmanNash]

In a better game@@victorio2005

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

​@@NashmanNashComrade Reznov is an icon and shouldn't be defiled by being in Vanguard.

[@hitsunakousaka9497]

34:47 Correction: It was the Chinese who lost the most civilians, up to 20 million. Most of it to war crimes and not to military action. The Soviet Union lost the most to military action. Fun fact: The brutality of the Japanese towards the Chinese was so bad that an SS officer overseeing the Sino-Japanese theater was petitioning the Japanese to stop. Let that sink in for a bit.

[@ПолковникЗайцын]

USSR lost 9 million soldiers and 18 million civilians. 800 000 civilians were killed in Leningrad alone due to force starvation and frequent bombardment. 2 million/25% of population in Belars alone due to scorched earth policy and antipartisan actions. 4-5 million died due to stress during and imidiately after the war.

[@kjj26k]

Famine and the disease that comes with got so many people during and especially after the war. I say especially after because the only reason so many more civilians didn't die during the war was because SO many civilians became soldiers. It really was the darkest hour of our species. Can't wait to do it all the fuck over again because of trash like this game.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@ПолковникЗайцынPinning down exact numbers where Russian casualties are concerned is still extremely difficult. Stalin wasn’t big on tracking these things. It was certainly over 10 million, probably more than 20 million. In any event, I think it’s safe to say that Russia lost the highest percentage of its population during the war. Not sure who gets the silver medal in this event-China’s losses were in the same neighborhood as Russia’s but it’s population was substantially larger. Germany and Japan also both suffered catastrophic military & civilian losses; not as many in absolute terms as either Russia or China, though. As a percentage of their pre-war populations their war dead may have represented larger fractions, however.

[@dot-ln7jc]

@@ПолковникЗайцын You can't die directly from stress.

[@durhamdavesbg4948]

@@grahamstrouse1165 I heard Poland lost the highest %-wise

[@John.McMillan]

I was 100% right along with you. "Alright this isnt too bad, some minor uniform and gun problems. No biggie" *sees T-34-85 (later model) in early 1942 Stalingrad* "Excuse me, WHAT?!"

[@canthi109]

STUKA OF 37MM GUN WITH BOM?!

[@hometownboy6537]

Same here.

[@hometownboy6537]

@@thisisveerus6667 What's the Berlin Stripes?

[@skulldozer1462]

@@hometownboy6537 An award issued to Soviet soldiers who participated for the capitulation of Berlin

[@hometownboy6537]

@@skulldozer1462 Thank you.

[@LtCWest]

About the Stuka, Military Aviation History made a short 1 min video on everything that is wrong with the Stuka in the game, turns out its an amalgamation of NUMEROUS models, quite literally a Frankensteinian monster.... Addendum: You know whats the best part about being German? You dont need to read the subtitles in a WW2 media piece. Unless its Japanese, of course. ^^

[@AnimarchyHistory]

AHHHH FAKE ANIME FAN, NEEDING SUBS, PEASANT. 😉

[@0xA9F]

Till you get the impression that all the "Germans" in this game are probably Americans or British people being asked to speak German.

[@shrednas6567]

@@AnimarchyHistory That's why I watch dub, and I will fight and die on this hill

[@Terabit3]

@@shrednas6567 you're not wrong. Dub is superior. End of discussion

[@majorblitz3846]

@@0xA9F They have better chance with Hitman "Just English dub every country" strategy It's fucking funny when my country (Thailand) was featured as mission in Bangkok and all hotel staffs and guards were English dubbed. Now I just have to figure out Thai localization on my own.

[@Fallout_Arts]

25:20 the bomb that lands here is not dropped by a bomber… its dropped by the Stuka. Which might I add would be LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. Due to the excessive weight of the 37mm guns mounted on the wings, any and all bombs were not put on those aircraft due to the extra weight. If these Stuka’s had the cannons AND the bombs, they wouldn’t be able to stay airborne

[@lordjor96]

Not all Stukas had the 37mm cannons.

[@Fallout_Arts]

@@lordjor96 they do though

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@lordjor96 in game they do

[@CruelestChris]

It's like the Hinds in the Modern Warfare games with both the chin-mounted 50 cal and the cheek-mounted cannon, it's the configuration you make as a kid when the model kit says to pick one but you want to put on all the cool weapons.

[@majorblitz3846]

Damn, that must be a very dummy thicc stuka. "Hans, I'm trying to perform a dive bombing, but my Stuka is dummy thicc and the clap of the 37mm guns keep dropping the altitude"

[@ninetailedfox3716]

"Partisans?" How in hell are there Partisans in the city? There are two whole soviet armies in the city, defending it. Also the whole map is wrong, the city must be literring with soviet soldiers, defenses, and other things to protect the city. That whole mission is fucked up.

[@Mikhalych88]

Totally agree. Although during initial German breakthrough on the northern area of the city, local NKVD forces hastefully gathered civilian volunteers (mostly local factory workers) to take arms and fill the gap in the defence. But they've been called "opolchenie" or militia, not partisans.

[@ertrick3693]

I swear it seems like the devs didn't even know what partisans are and just thought it was a fancy word for Russian soldiers. Like, they were saying earlier in the mission how the "partisans will crush the Germans before they even reach the city", like... they aren't even fighting the Germans on the frontlines because they're *resistance fighters* fighting in zones occupied by the enemy... so how are they going to "crush" the German advance?

[@randomlygeneratedname]

I can forgive bthat they'd be NKVD volunteers but it's easier for people to understand partisans.

[@terminallumbago6465]

@@ertrick3693 Right. Why would there be partisans in a part of the country that hadn’t been occupied yet?

[@someonenoone3687]

Seeing an AS-44 and a Volkssturmgewehr in Stalingrad (a roughly 2 year miss) is like having Kantaria fight his way to the top of Reichstag with his brand new 1947-pattern prototype AK. Which has to be fitted with a WASR-type Romanian dong grip, an SVD stock and an RPD-looking drum, in some ungodly manner converted into an actual magazine for extra pain.

[@Zarastro54]

Don’t give them any ideas…

[@corporatejones9126]

Be careful! Don’t let activate see your comment! Keep it low profile, Pal

[@williambenedictalava2634]

No one: Absolutely no one: Cod vanguard: Assasin C o m r a d e

[@canthi109]

Assasin soviet edition

[@EnigmaEnginseer]

@@canthi109 that’s a real game btw

[@canthi109]

@@EnigmaEnginseer I know

[@EnigmaEnginseer]

@@canthi109 Nice

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

It blows my mind that nobody on the COD team was a decent enough historian to get some basic shit right, it’s like they just said fuck it.

[@Mortablunt]

I'm shocked nobody either had a Mosin or knew somebody with a Mosin they could bring in to model. They got all the bolt handles wrong. It was only the best selling gun in America for 6 years straight and the most abundant bolt action rifle of all time!

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

Call of Duty kind of went downhill after Infinity Ward split, and now it's being made by people mainly out for a paycheck. IW became Respawn and everyone cried about Titanfall so they've started down the same path of box checking and money grabs that every other company is now.

[@Nik-Art]

@@Mortablunt They used to have the bolt straight for the Mosin, but they thought that it looks too “odd” and “weird” and “too big” Or maybe it just kept clipping through the player’s hand, But at the same time, they literally have the Type 99 with the straight bolt and we don’t see any problems with that.

[@alexphenex8]

Why not google for 5 minutes? It's free and easy to use ...unless they typed everything at once, didn't find anything usefull and just said "yeah, no, we will just remember what they had"

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

@Sex Fucker Don't forget they are why MW3 was a massive downgrade too.

[@militant-otaku9795]

That running through the collapsing building routine was just one step away from the old jumping and running across falling debris schtick.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

I was thinking more along the lines of Legolas in his appearance in the Hobbit trilogy…😁

[@archerbascha8757]

I am sure that the people who wrote the stories for Vanguard only had historical advisors just to say that they had historical advisors. Did they acutally had any?

[@angryirishman7474]

They did not

[@abysswalker2594]

Na just woke advisors just to to tell have much woke us needed in the game

[@immelmannace4067]

I was confused as well, until I looked them up and found out one of the four writers was Sam Maggs. If you know who that is, no more explanation is needed.

[@Daniel-wy2kx]

@@immelmannace4067 who that

[@KalashVodka175]

@@immelmannace4067 yeah, who’s that

[@CPTPuggo]

The helmet decal looks more like the national colors decal (black, white, red) than the 91st insignia. While the decal's design is accurate, German high command had already disseminated an order to remove the decal after the invasion of Poland, so its use here is inaccurate.

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

Yeah, I was thinking - that's definitely not a unit crest. TBH I don't even think the Krauts had unit decals on their helmets, I've never seen it, at least.

[@Aqueox]

@@obiwaankenobi4460 The SS had their shield on the side, but they started wearing helmet covers pretty often.

[@ashr1190]

I think national colors were still present in France, however they definitely were not by Stalingrad. Only the reichsadler decal should remain by this point.

[@ashr1190]

@@Aqueox while that's true, the runes weren't unit specific and to my knowledge units that had their own rune didn't put them on helmet decals, such as 3. SS Totenkopf or the volunteers from Scandinavia.

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

@@ashr1190 *Officially* they weren't present, but you're absolutely right in that many German soldiers in France chose to forego the removal of the national colors because, simply put, it posed no risk. The main reason for their removal was camouflage reasons, it stuck out like a sore thumb. German garrisons in France didn't need to worry about it much.

[@ajitomate3908]

46:26 Im pretty sure this is just a panzer iv with some side armor on the turret mostly because you can identify the big commander cupola and if you pay close attention you can see the flat front armor no clue if it is a short 75 or a long 75 tho

[@fernandomarques5166]

Looks like a Panzer IV Ausf.H with Schürzen equipped

[@Fallout_Arts]

Yup, it still shouldn’t be there

[@IMCgrunt543]

@@fernandomarques5166 I think it looks like the Panzer IV J with skirting equipped.

[@AtomicBurn02]

Was going to say that myself actually. Way too early for that model though, big surprise.

[@Fallout_Arts]

@@AtomicBurn02 very early

[@JuanJohnSmith]

I watched a friend's friend play this mission and I flipped my lid when I so those T-34-85s.

[@olekzajac5948]

28:31 Luftwaffe used the M30 Drilling as a survival gun in North Africa. But as Jonathan Ferguson pointed out in his video about guns in the campaign, this might have been a hunting shotgun brought by an officer, since Becker revolving shotguns were very rare and weren't made for the battlefield. Edit: Ah, yup, here: 28:45. Although it wasn't "just a shotgun". The third barrel was chambered in a truly African caliber - 9.3×74mmR.

[@CruelestChris]

Yeah, the Drilling was a weird one, we're not sure to what extent they were even issued and because the rifle rounds issued with it were soft-nosed it would have been illegal to fire the rifle barrel at a soldier.

[@firesturmgaming]

Yeah but what was illegal to the rest of the world wasn't really illegal to Nazi Germany.

[@olekzajac5948]

@@CruelestChris How is it with that part of the law of war? I know there's a part about bullets which cause unnecessary pain, but what ic covered by this "definition"?

[@CruelestChris]

@@olekzajac5948 1899 Hague Declaration regarding expanding ammunition declares that "soft" or hollowpoint ammunition is unlawful for use in armed conflict, though it can be used by law enforcement personnel.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@CruelestChrisThat seems so weird.

[@mohaa556]

COD Vanguard logic: Let's put a drum mag on everything except the things that actually had one.

[@EnRandomSten]

the shotgun seems to be the "becker revolving shotgun" it's a german design from the late 1800's but wasn't produced until the 1920's.... only 100 were made.. but clearly this random German brought his to the invasion of stalingrad :D (forgotten weapons have made a video on it) also I like how the "mp40 64 round drum" only has 60 shots lol

[@ronanmcdonald6386]

Also bought by some random Japanese dude who took it to the jungle for some reason.

[@HKG11Prototype]

hes flexing on the poor peasants who doesnt have it ig

[@sirboomsalot4902]

15:33 There is one thing that’s incorrect about their Mosins, that being the bolts are bent despite those not being scoped rifles

[@tommykaung5882]

Imagine all of these Frankenstein guns are appearing in "Girls Frontline".

[@majorblitz3846]

Well, technically UMP45 Mod 3 is Frankenstein's gun with replaced limbs. But everyone was android with guns so it don't even make sense. Whatever, it's fine, just as long as they don't look like failed prototype. *Edit:* Nevermind, Girls Frontline anime got overall quality dropped so bad like they used up all the funds to fight Paradeus, now the even M4A1 gun become cursed...twice

[@alexhndr]

Christ, they better DONT make CAR MOD3 the cursed Vanguard variant And we still YET to have AS44 on the game. Fingers crossed for that one

[@aldovk6681]

Oh my god... no, every doll would be a trap at best

[@majorblitz3846]

Okay, so I check Girls Frontline anime and they got the guns wrong, cursed even.

[@aldovk6681]

@@majorblitz3846 Wait the anime is already out!? Need to watch it then

[@evanm5604]

It’s worth noting that almost all of the uniforms and equipment modeled are of the 1950s and 1960s issued patterns. A common problem as this is what most costume houses that COD developers among other dev teams utilize, brand as GPW era. Ironically, the “chief medical officer” is one of the only models wearing the correct uniform for this time frame, although most female medical personnel, not at the immediate frontline, would have likely been wearing the issue skirts. Petrovka is slightly closer, at least wearing a war era tunic, but is the male pattern, officers model tunic which did not see wide issue to enlisted personnel prior to 1945. I think it’s worth noting that many of the “extras” milling around in the background are all wearing post war era equipment, mixed with the pre-war issue equipment suspenders, which did not see significant enough production for issue through the outbreak of war. The caps and helmets are both the pattern issued after the end of the war. All in all, entirely wrong other than it’s technically Soviet era uniforms and equipment, just not the GPW types.

[@DasGrimm66]

M30 Luftwaffe Drilling, 1941-1942 production date, 2,456 units produced, used mainly by Luftwaffe personnel, Sauer and Sohn produced them, ammo is 9x34mmR, 12G round used 2 shotgun barrels and 1 rifle barrel used until 1945.

[@uberreaktor4836]

One thing you missed were some of the germans wearing M43 caps. Which, as the name implies, weren't issued until 1943. And also wouldn't be worn in an active combat scenario.

[@dudeman7721]

I noticed that too lol. The only caps close to the M43 worn by Germany at this time would’ve been the M40/M41 in North Africa by the DAK and etc. Sadly, cod didn’t even get the uniforms correct for the African Campaign either..

[@WisteriaDrake]

Sad thing is, I'd totally dig a game where entire armies from throughout history are sent through a rift in time and end up stuck in eternal battle or something, so you end up with Luftwaffe soldiers wearing modern plate carriers and carrying frankenstein assault rifles alongside Roman swords or something. Just really lean into the anachronisms, but on purpose.

[@sebastianb.3978]

Now I want that and will never get it. Thanks...

[@eugeniaamariei8626]

The closest game I know to that is Darkest Of Days from 2010.

[@jrbutler36]

They got the scope on the Mosin wrong. I’m an American, any my first rifle was (and still is, I love it to death) an M91/30 Mosin. Mine is just a standard infantry rifle with plain old iron sights, but I have coveted the PU Sniper variant for years. The scope they modeled on that rifle looks like a ZF-39, which was made by Zeiss, a small optics company from the Fatherland… You can tell this from the, sorry I can’t think of a better word, bulges at the front and rear of the scope. Soviet scopes were at least half as long and were only as thick as the central portion of the scope modeled here. The Soviet PU scope was much smaller, less complicated, but arguably more durable. Zeiss did have an edge on glass clarity, but the robustness of the Soviet design made quite a few snipers on the Eastern front prefer the Soviet scope. The crosshair is wrong for both scopes, however. That is a plain and simple fine cross reticle. A true German ZF-39 has a three post reticle; there’s a small gap between the three posts, with the center post having a point at its top. The Soviet PU scope shared this reticle design as the Soviets worked with, and copied a good amount of their sniper doctrine from Germany. (While they copied it, they also took sniper doctrine far more seriously than the Wehrmacht. The S.S. is a different beast, though.) So yeah, from my little area of pseudo expertise, they screwed the pooch. Go figure. *Edit* And now I feel kind of bad, because of all the weapon errors you pointed out and all the ones that hurt you, I have now added the pain of them screwing up the rifle that is the pride of the Soviet Union. But I only feel kind of bad, since you have communist leanings and I am a filthy Capitalist, I do ever so slightly enjoy your pain. ;)

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Leanings? Man I am doubled over and angry at the universe. Yeah the scope is wrong, but given that it is a privately owned Mosin I figured he put his own scope on it. So I didn't notice. And of course being smooth brained and on a first reaction I didn't pick up on the incorrect reticule until after I'd recorded. The rifle itself is beautifully modelled though, that bolt clear when she picks it up rustled my jimmies.

[@jrbutler36]

@@AnimarchyHistory Oh I noticed you more than lean, I was just being obtuse. I’m an American, remember? We do that well. I didn’t notice the bolt clear at first, but I went back and noticed that she, in fact, verified nothing about her weapon except maybe that the bolt does work. Which, duh, it’s a Mosin. Of course the bolt is going to work. For crying out loud that warhorse is still fighting in certain parts of the world. But as for checking her ammo, no. For giggles I did that with my rifle, which has no scope, and couldn’t see jack about my ammo. Adding the scope to the Mosin makes checking ammo and loading ammo harder. It’s very nicely modeled, I agree. But the inaccuracies kill it for me. And with all the free resources out there to make sure you have stuff done right, there’s no excuse for this kind of sloppiness.

[@spacejamsham2440]

Same for me as well Izhevsk made in 43, my biggest gripe with mosins in like every game including this one is the infantry variants all having the bolts you’d find on marksman variants

[@SamuraiAkechi]

The reticle is wrong, but the scope itself is correct. I suppose it's a simplified modification of a 1931 PE scope. In 1940 a small batch of civilian version of PE optical sights was produced, called PO-1. The original construction, was, indeed, influenced by Zeiss.

[@SocietysOldSoul]

This is the best channel that I have ever seen, keep up the good work dude

[@Persian-Immortal]

That revolver shotgun I think was for sport shooting. And very very few were made. I think!

[@ronanmcdonald6386]

Only like 100, you see it many times however. In one of the missions as the pilot he crashes and one of the Japanese dudes interrogating you has one.

[@DaStosha]

Hunting communists is kina sport, you know.

[@MrIveyIsBonkers]

Normally I'd be like "quit your complaining bro, it's just a video game" but to be truthful I like hearing about inaccuracies in stuff like this. It teaches me a lot.

[@lupusthefurry7012]

18:33 I can just imagine a soldier hears the planes while talking to his friend and then saying this

[@stevestreet6214]

I love how they immediately know where the sniper shot came from as soon as she pulled the trigger. Not even a delay and they are already firing on the window

[@tangero3462]

After watching your video on the El Alamein mission, I was so incensed that I chose to replay CoD2. Man, what a game and it actually had some respect for history. There's plenty that was still technically wrong with the game, such as G43s appearing in Stalingrad instead of G41(W)s (understandable for simplicity of game assets), the Mosin model having a Finnish M28/30 rear sight for some reason, and the general overuse of their Panzer II model, but I'm much more willing to look past some of these things when a game gives more general respect for the subject matter overall.

[@Frankmuddy]

This was so much fun to watch. Keep up the good work.

[@ConkerVonZap]

girl with red army uniform German soldier: "Go bAcK tO YouR RoOm"

[@KardasheviteUltravisionary]

The key key to CoD is to never have expectations and let the bright explosions activate your neurons

[@spenjak18]

13 years later and Call of Duty: World at War is still the best WW2 COD game out there... And "Vendetta" is still one of the best missions.

[@ShionWinkler]

It could be that her father has friends in high places, and his son was already in the red army, so he pulled strings to keep his daughter out of the fighting. As he said "don't be in a rush to fight" and "you are all I have left", it really seems he doesn't want her to be in combat.

[@terminallumbago6465]

He could have been a Party member himself, or living off his glories during WW1/October Revolution.

[@khanhngo5979]

Love the amount of knowledge and passion you have for this era. This the 2nd video I've seen of yours and it's extremely entertaining and informative. My major pet peeve is the use of an English speaker who plays a foreigner with an accent. Always gets me every time. Keep up the good work man. I hope a movie or game company will hire you as a consultant one of these days.

[@majorpark]

31:27 when playing this I actually looked for the officer but he wasn't out side. He was sitting in side the armored car with the hatches closed so you wouldn't be able to shoot him.

[@abysswalker2594]

Hmm a least that’s correct

[@oceanichimself4603]

The uniforms themselves are horribly inaccurate. The Golden belt buckles with the star in them did not exist until post-1969 uniform regulation changes. During WWII, for enlistedmen at least, they were essentially a civilian-style belt which was much thinner. They also pictured an OBR.35 uniform with shoulder boards (They only had collar tabs)

[@lSargontheGreatl]

I just love how they slapped a drum mag on every single gun that didn't have a drum magazine in real life except for the one that relatively often did, and instead gave that one a useless, 25 round stick magazine.

[@toenailmuncher0772]

Even the Kar98! and probably more bolt action rifles.

[@brandonbulvan73]

I’m with you it hurts to watch and most of the The developers have never picked up a history book or talk to a ww2 vet so we are dealing with bund assets and I’m not sorry for saying that

[@dj11o9er]

Tbf on the vet bit, WW2 vets are a rapidly dying breed these days

[@brandonbulvan73]

@@dj11o9er I know they are my papa was a WW2 vet and I was the only person he told about the war I wish I had a video camera when I was little and he was telling me about the war but I didn’t but they could have picked up a history book and they didn’t

[@brandonbulvan73]

@@IkLms11 I agree but if you are going to do a WW2 game and pass it off as historic and not say shit like accident history. I have a problem with that my papa was a WW2 vet I don’t want them missing up history and not getting it right because I love history and when I was in school I knew way more then my teacher and I could teach the class I still love history my family hate that I love it and all my guns are historical. COD help me get out of my shell when I was younger and in to history I want them to keep making games that do the same for the new kids coming in but be true to the history of the war.

[@earthgovernmentcolonialall3973]

The one thing I can think of the father’s medals is that . Maybe during the First World War he fought along side the Russian Army (like every other Russian soldier) he did maybe heroic actions that won him those medals. And maybe when the October Revolution and Lenin came into power maybe he then sided with the Bolsheviks and Soviets. But idk… also I am sure the Soviet uniforms that their using not correct. Since in another video and with some search those uniforms were used by ‘43.

[@Demospammer9987]

Pretty sad when the WWII cods from 14 to almost 20 years ago were more attentive to their details. This could have been the best depiction if Stalingrad yet, had it been given to devs that cared

[@SeaGLGaming]

I remember watching the casualties of WWII video, and when it went to the Russian casualties, and it just kept scrolling and scrolling and scrolling for several minutes. It was hard to get through.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

According to Vanguard, the USSR was saved by sniper girl.

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

31:52 Well, to be fair to him/her, given the quality of the AI of the A6Ms in the Midway mission, I can't blame the player for expecting the enemy to just leave her alone and be farmed.

[@seanallard9335]

I can hear his soul being destroyed as the video goes.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

It was Dante’s inferno my guy

[@asscheeks3212]

@@AnimarchyHistory Fascists, conservatives, Right wingers, Centrists, Socialists, communists, leftists everytime a Call of Duty game releases: *shakes hands and join forces in harmony how much they despise this franchise with every inch of their bone and soul* If you can give Call of Duty credit, it made everyone of all political spectrums agree on how garbage it is.

[@juno1915]

47:08 From a certain angle. It looks like a panzer 4 with the skirt armour on to me. And from a certain angle. it may look like a panther hull with a tiger turret. Just the way it looks like the plates on the turret are spaced to me.

[@johnlanderglea6120]

It could be a Panzer IV J cause thats the only model with a turret skirt armor but it could be a H Variant, i don't know

[@flare9757]

I…. Why? That tank at the end…. The mantlet is to wide to be a Tiger 2. That is a Tiger turret on a Panther hull with Panzer 3 track guards. The 4 and later all had over track sponsons. Maybe a Panzer 4 K? This vehicle does not exist, and at best they took a chop saw to two of the best tanks built by Germany in WW2 and welded them together.

[@Anmatgreen]

The uniforms not looking right is because they Soviets transitioned from collar tabs to shoulder boards (along with completely changing the look of the collar) only AFTER the battle of Stalingrad. So that uniform would be accurate for something like the Battle of Kursk or Battle of Berlin, but not for Stalingrad, Moscow or Kyiv.

[@7.62x38mmR]

The "Einhorn" is actually a vintage Becker revolving shotgun, a sporting Prussian weapon made and sold slightly before the Great War that was never made or sold in great numbers and would be less than ideal in a military context. It's the kind of stuff you'd see in Battlefield 1

[@gavinzlatar4914]

I’m new to the channel and I’m loving the content! When you started talking about Ernst Udet and the failed project that was the He 177 I got REALLY excited because I actually wrote a huge paper a little over a year ago on the Luftwaffe’s high command from 1936-1945 with Willhelm Wimmer, Ernst Udet, Erhard Milch, and of course Goering. It was basically an overview of some of their more common or influential blunders and how they directly impacted the Luftwaffe as a fighting force as well as the war effort as a whole (wasting resources on projects that went nowhere, constant design requirement changes that created nightmares for engineers like the He-177 having to dive bomb and the Me-262 having to be able to carry bombs, plus numerous issues regarding their operational doctrine). I’m sure you know even more than I do but I just wanted to mention it because the only other time I’ve heard someone mentioning the engineering nightmare that was the He-177 being structurally reinforced to dive bomb was in some of the books or documents I read through while doing research for that paper and I thought it was really cool hearing someone talk about it! Keep up the great work!!

[@clementbruera]

40:36 this is actually an Italian "samurai" vest, certainly not used in 1942 nor in the Eastern front. It was used from 1944 by German paratroopers and Italian RSI troops.

[@iidentifyaskingoftheuniver1928]

I have never heard of the woman who threw herself under a tiger tank… I am a huge World War II buff my great grandfather fought with the first Marine division in the battle of the Solomon Islands in the Pacific and continued to island up to Peleliu, was injured in Peleliu by a grenade and also shot in the shoulder. He recovered got a Purple Heart and then re-join his company and fight in the battle of Iwo Jima Then fight in the Korean War. I don’t know how the man survived all of this but he did sadly later in life he developed dementia and will call the Dallas bomb squad because we live in Texas and would say that the “gooks” we’re building bombs in his garage I remember specifically I was about five years old he tapped me on my shoulder and they had clown decorations in there kitchen and he told me whispered in my ear do you see those japs, talking about the clown decorations said they are marching here to kill us. That man is my hero and for games like this to butcher the historical accuracy of what these men not just my great grandfather went through but mini went through is just atrocious I understand it’s a video game I am a huge battlefield fan I stop playing call of duty after black ops two but vanguard it’s just a disgrace

[@Cheezymuffin.]

25:47 so I didn't think of this the first time but: That is a balcony... not just any balcony, but a balcony attached to a completely fine and maintained building. Now somehow, a woman jumping and grabbing the ledge, which would have had marginally more force than if she had stoot on the balcony and jumped, fucking disintegrates this balcony... you know, the part where people are supposed to stand on? which is most definitely designed to not collapse from a person jumping on it?| Now if it was an old shoddy building, fine, but the fence on that thing is in prestine condition! ... it is not only historically inaccurate, but also just flips the finger to engineering it seems.

[@Boltius]

27:33 At this point I was expecting of her to rip the bomb out of the ground Doom style and start smashing Nazi enemies in pieces.

[@immelmannace4067]

I literally ran around this mission hip firing, assassinating and punching Germans in the face while laughing and yelling "Strong Woman!"

[@nanotech1921]

its like they couldent even do a few quick google searches like "what tanks were used in stalingrad"

[@patrikcath1025]

I swear they just have a list of all the possible *and* impossible weapon configurations that may or may not have been used throughout the entire war, and used a random number generator to pick one whenever a soldier or weapon crate is spawned

[@charlesdarles4095]

28:43 this exact shotgun was a very pricey and rare german shotgun so the idea of it getting to Stalingrad of all places is very unlikely

[@tb124.gaming]

I love how when you said "NO GERMAN UNITS USED SHOTGUNS!!", I instantly remembered the M30 Luftwaffe Drilling shotty, and when I wanted to comment about it, the text instantly came up xD

[@paulhuston9991]

Don't worry about the C word cap. In the US army it was the official name for our cap untill the mid 2000s and its still called that by the troops tongue in cheek lol. And us old guys still call it that. It's the only time that word left my mouth in front of my mom... ever! And I loved it!

[@wolffgangkertzvoneisbacht]

Actually the Gewehr 98 with a trench mag was *supposedly* fielded in the earlier Polish, Czech, Danish, and Belgian invasions to reserve/green units to simply fill empty numbers but was quickly phased out because apparently it jammed constantly.

[@gidi3250]

29:40 the German medics complained about having to fish out buckshot instead of a single rifle round and the USA marines hyped it up same with the "devil dogs" thing where the Germans never called the USA marines that but all of a sudden returning marines started talking about how the Germans where scared of how good they where and how the must be the dogs of the devil. Also German war crimes have been portrayed in every single call of duty that has a ww2 theme, in world at war Germans where gunning down pow's and the injured and they even portray some Japanese war crimes, thus far the only country's war crimes they haven't portrayed are the USA, British and Soviet war crimes.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

I disagree on Soviet War crimes. World At War shows the Soviets executing POWs. People trying to surrender, burning unarmed Germans alive. Shooting the wounded. And bombing civilian areas with artillery.

[@gidi3250]

@@AnimarchyHistory now that I've sat and tried remembering the game from what I recall your squad members are orders to shoot pov's and they resist and after you kill them reznov tells the other guy he should be more like demitri.

[@CruelestChris]

@@gidi3250 That's an optional part, you have a bunch of Germans surrendering in a subway entrance and you have one of the choices: either you shoot them as Dimitri (which Chernov sees as a "bad" choice) or the Soviet troops throw molotovs down onto them and they burn to death. It's interesting because it shows that Chernov's moral judgements aren't perfect, since he never sees what would have happened if you didn't do it.

[@CruelestChris]

@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen No, it's not. You're thinking of the _America's Army_ series.

[@CruelestChris]

@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Um, no. The US military doesn't own the trademarks of individual weapon manufacturers, Activision goes to companies like Colt, Remington, Barrett and so on to get the licenses for their weapons to appear. In fact, the designations of US military weapons are considered public domain, that's why Colt lost their lawsuit claiming they owned a trademark on "M4" a few years back (and most M4s currently in service were made by FN Herstal anyway). Same for vehicles: the Abrams, for example, is owned by General Dynamics, not the military.

[@Chobittsu]

This is easily the most unhistorical WW2 game on the market... and that includes Wolfenstein.

[@rhy45bianchi31]

At least Wolfenstein doesn't proclaim as historical shooter like this pice of junk and it's a distopia a good distopia in my opinion in Wolfenstein the nazi antagonist as great villains this game make them look like cartoon villains

[@Doofdoof0]

Imagine being more historically inaccurate than a game set in an alternate universe-

[@ImWallace799]

I know the Kuftwaffe had a hunting shotgun, the M30 drilling, but I don't think there were very many

[@tripleagaming6814]

I just realized near the end of the video when you were pointing out the tank that look like a squatting KT it could be a Porsche tiger with the turret swung around to face the rear of the vehicle and if it is that is very wrong. Due to the fact the Porsche tiger was know for mechanical failure along with engine fires and being so heavy that it would sink into the ground. A small few Porsche tigers entered service as command vehicles so it could be possible Edit I did some quick research there was one Porsche tiger that entered service and was a command vehicle in a elefant unit in April of 44 but was lost on July of 44

[@Clarencetheseal]

If you really want to beat yourself over the head with Vanguard, just look at the weapon attachments that are in the game (Even though it been beaten into the ground, it still hurts to look at the attachments and think to yourself, why the fuck is this a thing)

[@jamespike2872]

It was actually not uncommon for soldiers to hold medals from both Imperial Russia and the red army. Even Zhukov had medals he earned while fighting for the Empire

[@caelodevorago608]

If I had to guess, Boris served in WW1. He was rewarded and considered a war hero. He came back to Russia and then participated in the revolution, thus securing a nice life style. The Soviet Union loved giving plenty of treatment to national heroes, especially if they supported the party

[@loganb7059]

40:05 The VG-1-5 wasn’t even an assault rifle. It used STG mags but it was semi-auto only.

[@RockerTopper-hh3ru]

I am a simple man, I see a vid from Animarchy, I click. Also, FIRST!!!

[@ww2animechick198]

The “unit crest” at 33:05 isn’t a Unit crest, its the National colors shield that was regulated prewar and very early war, making the helmets “double decal”. It was ordered to be removed in March of 1940. But it is pictured that many soldiers didn’t, which makes the guy getting stabbed an invasion of Poland Veteran, or he got the helmet before invading France and didn’t remove it as ordered.

[@unfocused_stefania]

Just imagine in the Vanguard German bootcamps Here is your Mp40 with a stock and reddot sight Also take these shotgun shells -Why? JUST TAKE IT!

[@iVETAnsolini]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the emblem on the helmet and thought, hey that is way out of place lol

[@Hiihtopipa]

The very same battle in COD 1 was amazing as you arrived in the row boats and your commanding officer shoots two soldiers who got scared and try to swim away just shoots them in the back while having incoming fire and giving the speech of a lifetime.

[@outsidein2898]

This is gonna be fun

[@AshirenAloiseVoidsung]

Oh yeah it will be.

[@knghtcmdr]

"Glorious October revolution" Long live the Tsar :3

[@raven800plays]

Activision: " hey I got an idea. Let's make a game based on a well know and studied historical war...and make it as inaccurate as possible just to piss of the people who actually gave a shit about that war!" Everyone hated that

[@magmapixel8627]

Really wish they would’ve gone the Wolfenstein route with this one.

[@tristainlongshot7524]

Hey Animarchy at 8:11 time stamp the Statue with the Dog and the Soldier. The Rifle is an M1 Garand. From what I know of WW2 Firearms, the Russains never had M1 Garand in their Army for the Bolt would lock up in the cold of winter, and the Soldier is in winter clothing. How I know is the Rifle has a very distinct gas tube that only the Garand has and well the Bolt top and the Sight is also very distinct.

[@generaljemssmjem437]

if cod vanguard breaks animarchy, then it breaks Jonathan from the Royal Armories museum in the UK, welcome to cursed gun simulator

[@walnzell9328]

26:53 I'm sure some folks when they saw this for the first time expected that bomb to say "Stark Industries" on it.

[@lefr33man]

15:30 The Mosins do not actually look correct. Those mosins have bend bolt handles, something that was only done on the sniper versions. They should be straight in this case. The endcap doesn't look quite right either.

[@tuomoheinavaara4870]

That helmet decal at 33:10 is just the German national insignia, the eagle on the other side of the helmet denoted branch of service. I also think that Fallschirmjäger around 39:55 was a time traveler since he had the Volkssturm-gewehr and an Italian smg-chestrig XD

[@hifive0264]

47:19 People being executed. He's just like: Yeah historically corect planes.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Its the Eastern Front man, executions are on Tuesdays and Thursdays with overtime on Sundays available for the SS should they want it.

[@canthi109]

Yeah is just daily life in easter front for soviet civil

[@WendiGonerLH]

I love Misha’s VA. He’s in fucking everything that has slavic characters.

[@michaelamaya9032]

28:57 Goofy as it is, it's based off a real Shotgun called the Becker Revolving Shotgun. It was designed around 1899 and wasn't produced until the 1920s. So, their presence in the game is historically possbile. However, only 100 guns were ever made, and as far as I know, they were never used or issued during World War II. So yeah, the Germans using these guns in the game makes no sense! This weapon maybe could have worked better as a Multiplayer exclusive weapon but having it in the Campaign was a poor choice!

[@gavinsmith6516]

37:43 the “Grabbenmagazin” probably wasn’t used often cause from the experiences of some people I know who have attempted to use them, they feed like shit. That’s just my best guess though.

[@blueproductions3905]

Lmao about the StG 44 in 1942, did they forget the 44 stands for 1944?

[@pyorre2441]

The funny thing is, they are correct in a sort, small batch of the prototype rifle where sent into field trials in the Eastern Front in late 1942 and early 43, large scale usage would start in late '43 and the rifle getting the offical name in early '44. So getting one in late '42 would be extremely rare but not out of reach of fancy.

[@NashmanNash]

Getting an MkB42(Either walther or Haenel) would not be impossible in late 42..Getting the closed bolt MP43(Which later became the STg44 through changing the stamp to engrave it) was impossible@@pyorre2441