This is Sooooooo Evil! | Jon Irenicus, Shattered One | Commander Legends Baldur's Gate Spoiler | MTG

[@Tehstampede]

Imagine building this up over a game and then tapping Homeward path after everyone at the table as 2-3 of your creatures lol

[@JackJackrabbit]

I'm looking for homeward path to screw over the guy that dares to play this

[@MageSkeleton]

imagine not having been able to afford a card like Homeward Path and somehow it's just YOU and ONE opponent..... and they have FIVE creatures you gave them......

[@mywife69]

@@MageSkeleton proxy it 😎

[@MrSweetiebear95]

@@MageSkeleton it's $15 it's not like it's a reserve list card

[@BossofBlades]

One fun interaction I'm building the deck with is layering of control abilities. If you control magic a creature then use irenclus to give it to an opponent, when the control magic leaves play it goes under your control.

[@WayfarersBauble]

My lowest TCGPlayer market price is currently $1.08 for my Commander: Streets of New Capenna printing!

[@JadenLingerfelt]

We’re getting closer to it being budget! Still have a way to go though

[@diegomasiero1784]

"I... I do not remember your love, Ellesime. I have tried to. I have tried to recreate it, to spark it anew in my memory. But it is gone... a hollow, dead thing. For years, I clung to the memory of it. Then the memory of the memory. And then nothing. The Seldarine took that from me, too. I look upon you and I feel nothing. I remember nothing but you turning your back on me, along with all the others. Once my thirst for power was everything. And now I hunger only for revenge. And... I... Will... HAVE IT!!"

[@michaeld2440]

Seriously one of my favorite villains/games from my childhood. Love this.

[@nalrashido]

"Then I pity you. Would that you had used your stolen mortal years to *earn* your return to this sacred place. I could have loved you anew, as I loved the man you once were. But I see nothing of him here. You are Irenicus. And all that awaits you now...is death."

[@senseiwing6425]

AH, THE CHILD OF BHAAL HAS AWOKEN!

[@joshlee8019]

It is time for more... experiments.

[@fiddlestyxify]

Interesting....you have much untapped power...

[@rachskald]

@@joshlee8019 The pain will only be passing.... you should survive the process.

[@nalrashido]

"I... I do not remember your love, Ellesime. I have tried to. I have tried to recreate it, to spark it anew in my memory. But it is gone... a hollow, dead thing. " "For years, I clung to the memory of it. Then the memory of the memory. And then nothing. The Seldarine took that from me, too. I look upon you and I feel nothing. I remember nothing but you turning your back on me, along with all the others. Once my thirst for power was everything. And now I hunger only for revenge. And... I... Will... *HAVE IT!!"*

[@ProdPizer]

can someone explain the lore? sounds cool

[@MechaTheSpider]

No Evil Eye of Orms-by-gore or Evil Eye of Urborg? Those seem like perfect cards to add!

[@FlawlessP401]

I had both but swapped them out for Archfiend of Dross and Steel Golem. The eyes are fun but can be low impact sometimes but the whole deck is very conditional it's game play changes every game

[@doozy1633]

@@FlawlessP401archfiend of dross is better against the last person because you’ll get it back under your control when the player loses. A good way around it is to have it in your graveyard and give someone a Lazav with the archfiend of the dross’s ability if they don’t have creature cards in their graveyard

[@slayd3378]

Hullbreaker Horror is a great card for this deck to keep. It lets you return your creatures to your hand to survive in 1v1 scenarios.

[@vaporeon344]

With how many cards give opponents things and make them sacrifice stuff, Tergrid looks really good in the 99.

[@DigeoBM]

Also Scroll of fate is a good card, this way u can manifest those bad creatures, and u turn them face up in response of the commander's trigger.... this way u won't have so much ptoblems if they destroy ur commander when ur moving to your endstep

[@joshlee8019]

I may have to build this deck just so I can do the "Life is strength" monologue each time I cast him as a commander.

[@14hourz82]

what monologue is that?

[@joshlee8019]

@@14hourz82 "Life... is strength. This is not to be contested; it seems logical enough. You live; you affect your world. But is it what you want? You are... different inside. This woman lives and has strength of a sort. She lost her parents to plague, her husband to war, but she persevered. Her farm has prospered, her name is respected and her children are fed and safe. She lived as she thought she should. And now she is dead. Her land will be divided, her children will move on, and she will be forgotten. She lived a good life, but she had no power; she was a slave to death. I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?" It's a speech the character gives.

[@RaginKavu]

Yeah, was thinking the same. What monologue?

[@joshlee8019]

@@RaginKavu "Life... is strength. This is not to be contested; it seems logical enough. You live; you affect your world. But is it what you want? You are... different inside. This woman lives and has strength of a sort. She lost her parents to plague, her husband to war, but she persevered. Her farm has prospered, her name is respected and her children are fed and safe. She lived as she thought she should. And now she is dead. Her land will be divided, her children will move on, and she will be forgotten. She lived a good life, but she had no power; she was a slave to death. I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?" It's a speech the character gives.

[@allthatisandeverwas]

I was going to keep it simple with “You will suffer! You will all suffer!”

[@Buster_Scruggs]

I could see this commander having catastrophic blowouts in most games. Opponents will save instant speed removal, and kill Jon in response to you casting one of the bad cards, so that you just have bad cards in your deck. Its far safer to just play him less mean, and use him to throw unblockable or highly invasive stuff to opponents to get card advantage and make them harm each other.

[@peakeythebard1454]

Swiftfoot boots, there are also a few hexproofing effects in blue and som other flicker type effects that you'd want anyway that can keep him alive. Also counterspell.

[@FlawlessP401]

Yeah no. First most people aren't gonna run enough removal to get rid of everything. Also you run payoff effects and lots of counters. Plus the standard commander protection suite. He's not even a high priority in most games. Plus your opponents don't always mind the creature. Like discarding a card is a small price for a 9/8 on turn 5

[@FlawlessP401]

Played this deck a lot. No one kills him. By the time you're killing him you're losing removal you need for other threats. Plus you don't only run bad creatures you gotta run a board too. Like Bitterblossom and Sacrifice payoff effects. My deck basically gives a bunch of stuff that forces sacrifice in people and then I run a bunch of sacrifice payoffs and synergies. So you give then garbage and steal the good stuff they have to sacrifice to it. Run like 3 tutors to always have your stuff ready. Expedition Map to help get big mana Cabal Coffers urborg combo. Then torment of hailfire for a big x. Basically just distract them with bad stuff hobble them with your good stuff and then try a big win

[@longshotsam2269]

One the the cards that came to mind with this commander is homeward path. Can use it in a way to bring stuff back on your side for emergencies, or combo it with with Herald of Leshrac or bring stuff back to give them nasty equipment for extra value.

[@benroberts1052]

how does herald help it

[@longshotsam2269]

Pretty much if you bring it back under your control right after you give it to someone the Cumulative upkeep ability will prevent it from being sacrifice if you have no more lands to steal.

[@benroberts1052]

@@longshotsam2269 i mean i guess that works, but itd probably only buy one other turn

[@longshotsam2269]

Just a thought. May have jump the gun on that, just thinking of fun and unique ways to abuse that can’t sacrifice part of the ability.

[@benroberts1052]

@@longshotsam2269 nah it’s fine, I was just being inquisitive, not trying to be rude or mean.

[@benzpinto]

that goaded creature must be poor Yoshimo.

[@nalrashido]

*Spoilers read at your own risk!* At least Ilmater the God of Martyrdom and Suffering took pity on his soul after all he suffered.

[@justinsickles4229]

You forgot the Evil Eyes!!! They are an aggro deck's nightmare!

[@fiddlestyxify]

Hereinafter we shall refer to this card as "David Warner."

[@TheUbiouS]

Yesssss, finally, a perfect commander for my future competitive duel EDH!

[@tymenvanessen3119]

the backup plan is getting a homeward path, possibly with some land tutors that can search for it., just pile up your creatures that you want back on the player that you think is going to win, (hint, black tutors can search for lands too!)

[@Nightmarecit]

With creatures that are actually bad for you?

[@rhainex5952]

@@Nightmarecit I think this person misread the commander and didn't pay attention to the video.

[@Valjque]

@@rhainex5952 Well if you take a big swing at the end of the game with a horde of monstruosity at the last player standing, even if they make you sacrifice permanents after if you time it right it could be your finisher

[@TCC180]

Rotting Regisaur is one of my pet cards for sure. I've used it in dredge decks, and busted it out like turn 2 via sol ring, and discarded Brawn at the begining of the next turn. very funny. :)

[@joshcotter6079]

I for one am incredibly excited for this set

[@An_Ian]

The far traveler background counters this it reads: Commander creatures you own have "at the beginning of your end step, exile up to 0ne target taped creature you control, then return its the battlefield under its OWNERS control" This means you tap to attack then flicker it back to the owners side of the field. Combine with Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward and you'd have a mono white deck that hard counters this.

[@damiancraigs3936]

Casual reminder that Taniwha exists. Not a bad way to lock a player out of the game, especially later in the turns.

[@alicetheaxolotl]

Another good card is Egon. Your opponent is forced to exile their grave, and once they run out of cards he can't sacrifice himself.

[@nailahprincessofhokuto2024]

What about Taniwha. "Oh I'm sorry your manabase has phased out"

[@realMemberberries]

The one time giving your opponent an indestructible creature is brutal

[@peakeythebard1454]

Finally, a commander for my Jank black cards edh.

[@simonandersen7942]

Heartless Summoning seems good.

[@TheDougWay]

Does this work with cumulative upkeep? Like if you give someone a Polar Kraken, then they have to sacrifice the lands since they can't sacrifice the creature?

[@almisami]

I would assume they can refuse to pay and they won't have to sacrifice it.

[@akkristor]

Cumulative Upkeep is always optional. If you don't or can't pay it, then you sac the creature. You cannot partially pay a cumulative upkeep. So, no it doesn't really work with Cumulative Upkeep, since they can not pay and then the creature isn't sac'd.

[@alicetheaxolotl]

No, cumulative upkeep is optional, so you can choose not to pay, and the effect prevents it from being sacrificed.

[@joshuareha8960]

So you give out say one or two to each player they can't sacrifice them and you hit them with killing wave they have to take the damage right?

[@alicetheaxolotl]

No, you are allowed to choose to sacrifice it, then the effect prevents it from being sacrificed. Same ruling as if your opponent played Killing Wave while you control Sigarda, Host of Herons

[@icowiz3382]

Public Enemy is a great addition from New Capenna

[@johnfroh6774]

This is exactly what Ive been looking for! I want to do a sliver deck that donates sliver tokens and then kills with Plague Sliver

[@blackbagans]

i am actually building a jon irenicus deck, using self sacrificing creatures, like bronzebombshell and giant shark to force a game draw for the table. its really mischeveous and hilarious the way they interact

[@jstawch2608]

This seems fun. But, the question becomes. How do you win. Lots of fun with 3-4 people at the table and they all have to attack each other. But once its down to you and one other player. You're stuck with all your negative effect creatures that came back to you from the other opponents dying, or you're opponent has to attack YOU with the goaded creatures now. Seems like it could be difficult to sneak consistent win cons in here.

[@ajalonhuber7535]

Solved this problem by making it a Relentless Rats Tribal'ish deck, mixed with Full Board Pumps (Coat of Arms), Mass Unblockables/Can't Block. Relentless Rats continues to be a significant creature threat through out the game, so it's not necessary to having many controlled by other opponent's. Your goal is to hit opponent's with your Rats who have weak defenses on your turn. (Definitely Not a CEDH).

[@KBgamer2010]

Here's a nasty combo if you have the budget Use Memnarch > steal someone else's creature > give that creature to another opponent.

[@AssimilateAndChill]

It says “own” so creatures you steal don’t work. The owner is the person in whose deck the creature started

[@KBgamer2010]

@@AssimilateAndChill This is true, but at the same time, chaos. Also, that's only the 2nd part of it's ability (Card draw) First part specifies creatures you control

[@merda_bellator4559]

@@KBgamer2010 that still doesn’t work since you’re giving the opponent control of the creature.

[@KBgamer2010]

@@merda_bellator4559 I'm only bringing this up just for the chaos and no value, or do this in a political way. Make a deal with player C by giving them player B's creature. I know I won't be drawing cards this way, but I'm still going to have a lot of fun doing this.

[@jlateralus21]

Im definitely building this commander around infect and counter spells. yes, Im evil :)

[@Demotros]

If you’re going to play this, I recommend looking up Despotic Scepter. It allows you to destroy a permanent you own(not control) so you can take out things you don’t want back, or things that might come your way next combat step.

[@givitback5323]

I was planning to make some horror tribal, now this is perfect!

[@LordSanquil]

Ominous seas( the one the makes kraken after 8 counters on it) is also a great card since your drawing a lot of cards

[@MageSkeleton]

i HATE blue and this is the most balanced Dimir legendary creature that can be your commander. There are some really neat creatures you could end up giving your opponents, but it's no The Beamtown Bullies where you can literally give someone a creature that ETB's "Skip your next TWO turns" and reacur it with Riftsweeper and put it from library back into your graveyard with Oriq Loremage did i mention The Beamtown Bullies has access to Seedborn Muse AND Quest for renewal?

[@haeilsey]

Jon is even funnier. give your opponent a card like Bronze Bombshell or Sea Serpent. the game won't advance until they sac it but they CAN'T

[@MageSkeleton]

@@haeilsey um.... in competitive you would get disqualified because the game has to go to "last person standing".

[@jameskelly2559]

I made this as eye tribal. Just a question - don't the opponents get to choose your commander as one of the cards taken?

[@MithradatesMegas]

"You will suffer! You will _all_ suffer!"

[@frostpeterson724]

So Tergird really going in that 99 LOL

[@regaleagle6533]

So they can’t sacrifice things and you don’t get them?

[@alicetheaxolotl]

@@regaleagle6533 they can't sacrifice the cards you give them, but they can still sacrifice everything else. You can give them Lord of the Pit, and force them to sacrifice their own cards, giving them to you.

[@NekoValtz]

God i've had a hellcarver demon since the set came out. Thought it was cool I pulled a mythic then ZERO people wanted it. I am interested in this commander and am glad to see that now the price has gone up

[@AzurielMist]

Shame it isn't Grixis, lots of goad synergy in red. I play thantis forced combat deck :L

[@jstratton1981]

I could fit him in the 99 of a grixis goaded treasure theme deck easily...not a bad idea

[@FlawlessP401]

Never get down go a 1 on 1. Save a group finisher for late game and pop it to end

[@dakotamcintire7419]

1. Homeward Path is going to freaking Skyrocket 2. Why do I absolutely LOVE the idea of giving my opponents infect creatures XD sure there's plenty of fun creatures with destructive effects you can donate to them, but people hate infect more than most anything else. 3. this guy will be a great political trickery deck using curses. Though a personal favorite strategy would be using plenty of steal effects and removal/counterspells with guile to make it a trade deck of sorts. that preventing them from sacrifice effect though... I feel like Im forgetting something but what.... oh yeah, Curse of the Cabal. forcing sacrifice will still be a very good strategy, since they cant sacrifice the ones you give them. 4. Keep Equipment and Auras in mind with this deck as well. if you put them on a creature before you give them, the equipment will stay until they remove it. it could make things interesting, pending on what you equip them with. this has some great potential to be built a bunch of different ways. Id be tempted if I didnt largely play 1v1 these days.

[@regaleagle6533]

It would be super funny when you die to your own infect 🤣

[@dankboydopeness3196]

Desecration elemental is just perfect for him. Not only denying one player to have any creature, but also giving them a goaded 9/9 with shadow that will hurt the other players and let you draw cards.

[@aaronvincent816]

It keeps saying no stream and won’t play for me….

[@masonpugh5739]

Same

[@JoyousOblivion]

Same

[@aaronvincent816]

It’s working now!

[@rolfdragsted1099]

Question: How does this work with Mimic Wat or Whip of Erebos. I know they both exile the creature and not sacrifice them. But if you stack the triggers at the beginning of our end step and donate the creature to an opponent before the Exile trigger resolve. does the exile trigger still apply to the creature if you don't control it anymore?

[@JoyousOblivion]

Video won’t play. Says “No stream - Tap to retry”

[@danielpenkov2607]

How does the trigger of Plague Reaver work with Jon as they both trigger at the beginning of the EP do you have to sac your board and then give it or is there a way around that

[@bytor21121]

I believe you get to stack the triggers in the order you want.

[@dtopa7524]

Both Jon and the Reaver would trigger. You can stack the triggers however you choose, but unless you can counter the Reaver trigger, you will have to sacrifice your other creatures (including Jon). Plague reaver is a bad inclusion in this deck.

[@big_sis_moon]

"You are but a gnat, compared to my power!"

[@shadowsavitar5309]

Now I have to redo my blim deck

[@Jroark38]

so basically if anyone uses that they become arch enemy instantly

[@jellyfish-7]

I don't see any credit using the promo code. Any idea how long it takes?

[@TheLoudestRager]

can you put out multiple goaded cards on the same opponent throughout multiple turns? because it says up to 1 making me think they can only have 1 goaded card and you must wait to give the same player another goaded card after they get ris of the first one. Am I wrong please tell me im wrong

[@moocowp4970]

I'm not judge but I believe you're wrong. I believe that line says you can give them up to one during that triggered ability. So at the end step Jon triggers, and you give one creature away, but you can give that one creature to someone who already has one . Besides, if you gave them one on a previous turn THEY now control it (you are still the owner, but they are the controller), so they wouldn't control any creatures that you control ;) It's just a way to stop you from putting 10 bad creatures on the board and then giving them all to an opponent in the one turn.

[@krunchyapples]

Give 'em any one of those cards that make you have to sac a creature every upkeep

[@blakeglover-drolet9094]

Phage wouldn’t work with the switching control, would it?

[@TheKensta88]

No, because it isn't entering the battlefield when it switches sides. Now if you had phage in the graveyard and used the effect of the Beamtown bullies to give it to an opponent that would kill them.

[@ferdithetank7535]

@@TheKensta88 Except Bullies specifically say "nonlegendary creature"

[@brettstenson]

what about cumulative upkeep cards?

[@alicetheaxolotl]

Cumulative upkeep is optional, so you give it to an opponent, they choose not to pay, it attempts to sacrifice but can't. Same as if you target an indestructible creature with a card that says "destroy"

[@cookingisfire]

Haha nice idea love the card not so much the link to buy... $33 in cards $118 for shipping. Thanks but no thanks. All of us ip here in Canada would probably love to support channels but the companies selling cards are all the same

[@astuteanansi4935]

This is a *way* better take on giving away harmful things than Blim, Comedic Genius. (Granted Blim can give away noncreature permanents but he comes with too many strings attached)

[@lumby5335]

He can target himself tho can't he? So if you fail to place a creature for him then he is jumping around? between opponents.

[@alicetheaxolotl]

It's up to one target creature, so you COULD pass him around if you (and your opponents) want, but you aren't forced to

[@GinjaNinja-qy6nj]

I'm putting this in my Karona deck. It just fits way too well for it not to go in

[@alphaskag1878]

This card was in a leak reveal around a month or so ago. Need more coffee Mitch. But yeah he's not a nice guy

[@taylorharbin3948]

I drafted this guy in a legends game. He did very well, but the deck as a whole wasn’t enough to support him. However, I’m looking forward to making a true commander deck off of him.

[@roborob6033]

Oh my these cards are getting wackier, I love it.

[@Tegz25]

This looks like a fun concept, until everyone plays a board wipe...multiple times lol

[@timdegraaff9259]

You are in blue, so run counterspells

[@DrukenReaps]

I mean... Pretty much every deck that relies on permanents can fold to multiple board wipes. You're just bringing up a thing that works against a lot of casual metas.

[@robloxplayer0003]

And if you have brass bombshell, you can end the game in an instant tie.

[@HavocTheWendigo]

Sleep locking spells will be good so they can’t attack so won’t die

[@benroberts1052]

any other good cards ?

[@Tom-vw7rg]

This card screams Gruul, why is it Dimir?

[@jstawch2608]

the control aspect is more dimir then gruul. I think you're right about it feeling more gruul with the types of other creatures you'll have in your deck to give away. But the initial effect is more dimir imo.

[@ewouddemeestere105]

you forgot yawgmoth demon

[@benitojuarez8627]

No golden pig?

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for this.

[@alphaskag1878]

You could actually cast Deadly Tempest as a finisher with this guy

[@reachingforthesun]

🤣🔥🥇 Funny AsF .. I'm In! #Dimir

[@owenzheng8357]

You fool! This is secretly a draw the game commander! Donate that bronze bombshell, bog serpent, or skeleton ship! Watch as they cower when their cards keep screaming at them to sacrifice them but they lack the power to do so. Mwhahaha

[@christopherrodriguez1159]

Assault Suit and Taniwha = GG lol

[@wizardrezerved9715]

It's Blim but different

[@adiuntesserande6893]

My wife's comment upon seeing this: "SadElfBoy98 has entered the chat."

[@Sami-ix7hx]

I‘ll smack this one into my karona deck

[@duartefonseca2626]

Cool but its one of those commanders whose deck is useless if it gets targeted. If someone takes out the commander 3 times its gg, because half your cards are iseless to your own board

[@welshmanthebestbanana3635]

Phylactery lich.

[@trichogaster1183]

the salt must flow

[@themicrophone0]

I'm thinking unblockable weenies. Think like blighted agent. Just ew!!! 🤣

[@louisvueghs6217]

Imagine caring about being first in the comments...

[@TheFrigidMidget]

Must. Give. Everyone. Phyrexian. Obliterator. Tokens.

[@enersha]

Karona False God

[@0v3r10rdd-x5w]

love it

[@Phantom-vo8jy]

The second this hits the field remove it and lock it out the game

[@binturongjustice]

.....Taniwha.....

[@theelectricant98]

Would be fun to play against this with my Blim deck, trading stuff back and forth lol

[@DanMeisterZ]

Homeward path goo!!

[@DanMeisterZ]

First Blim.. then Bullies..and now this

[@DanMeisterZ]

No Tegrid mention?

[@alejandrosaucedo4894]

So…hear me out…give one player a phage

[@fr3ddiefir3ball49]

I'm curious how this guy never seems to come up in discussion for fight club decks. Get out biggums give em away to beat on each other 😂

[@FirekingBarong]

I dont know why yall wanna give away other creatures, just give them Irenicus himself. Since he gets +2+2 you could get him bigger and bigger with the right politics at the table ^^

[@kfunky209]

second

[@kwixkedem4398]

First!

[@Mr.CoolDude0]

Second

[@kfunky209]

But did you play Wayfarer's Bauble?

[@kwixkedem4398]

@@kfunky209 nope

[@DrFishhhh]

like

[@Megafluxor6943]

Dont think is a good commander, if you want to make it strong you have to fill your deck with bad card... if someone kill your general, this is it you loose with a bunch of bad creatures. AND when someone dies, you have to take back your awfull things you cannot sacrifice... gg well play, you loose! The idea is great, but it's clearly underperform for sure!

[@ferdithetank7535]

Still better than Blim, Comedic Genius. Also, you can build your deck to function without its commander, you know.

[@jlateralus21]

if you build it that way. but if you play infect, and add +2/+2 to those creatures, and load up with counter spells and proliferate. you're golden. plus you're not the one playing infect creatures, your opponents are!

[@Nightmarecit]

This is a WAY worse version of the Jund Ogre.