It's more likely foreshadowing John's decision to stand his ground and give himself to the army so his family may live and not run away like he has his whole life and put em at risk again, than anything to do with Arthur imo. Again, headcanon is fair, but factually, Arthur no bearing on RDR1 at all.
@Jasuuvius2 ай бұрын
This is headcanon but yes I accept this as a reference
@ajbanky78702 ай бұрын
Everyone always seems to forget that John mentions having seen someone herding before when Bonnie asks if he has ever herded livestock before. That someone of course being Arthur.
@tyicbranch27342 ай бұрын
Imagine a full remake of red dead redemption 1 with 4k and updated textures with unreal engine 5 with 60fps and References to Arthur and some of the old gange along with new end game content and dlc i guess a guy can keep on dreaming of such greatness
@BruceWayneKnightfall2 ай бұрын
they don’t use unreal engine 5, just rdr1 with rdr2’s engine, and a few references to rdr2
@tyicbranch27342 ай бұрын
@@BruceWayneKnightfall I know but it would be better if they did because it's an amazing engine but rdr2 graphics is really great but rdr1 hasn't got nothing to do at end game and hasn't got many side missions it's why I think a full remake would be really cool
@mr.coffee522012 күн бұрын
In a way, Dutch’s final words to John in RDR1 are a reference to Arthur in that Dutch had realized his mistakes and that his life is not as good as it should have been if he had listened to Arthur and Hosea. So he chose to say something he said when he was still with Arthur as a way to remember his son before he died. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paTdgmWhis-NmtEsi=Mqc9geJlyEwNVhAY
@greenmario76892 ай бұрын
Couldn’t this also be referring to how John stayed in the gang while it was falling apart rather than leave with his family
@backlandjbreaker242 ай бұрын
How can John talk about something that doesn’t exist? 😂😂😂
@lego_boba_fett_watch2 ай бұрын
It's called a retcon
@themadtitan76032 ай бұрын
@@lego_boba_fett_watch A retcon would be like if in a remake, they added lines indicating that the context is indeed about Arthur. But in RDR, a 2010 game, it has nothing to do with him and is more likely on John's life experiences and foreshadowing his sacrificial act at the end. The only way it's a reference now is through headcanon where one retroactively ties the line to Arthur in their head.
@_the_phantom_2 ай бұрын
I feel like it's just Rockstar working with a few things John said to give Arthur a more cannon ending, which would have been Arthur saving John regardless, so they used what John had previously said to be able base something off of the 1st game into Arthur
@_the_phantom_2 ай бұрын
@@themadtitan7603TECHNICALLY it would still be a retcon since they had went back in time to create the prequel, so a bunch of information had to be retconned, like a bunch of the blackwater massacre in RDR had more gang members killed or something and they retconned it to being 2 and later Davey as well but maybe he wouldn't have been in the papers, stuff like that, but with this it could be a retcon in a way that allows what John is saying to reference Arthur staying for John, if you think about it probably way too hard
@tylerjamar84432 ай бұрын
He does exist
@willrobinson36622 ай бұрын
This is awesome, thank you for uploading this video.
@badassuchiha48752 ай бұрын
Wow I hope in RDR3 they show allot of Gang Members who wasnt mentioned & Callander Brothers also London Ricketts since he prob Saved John at a Young age but known very little about him also the Shootings in Blackwater
@kitataq2 ай бұрын
Calling it reference is a reach partner.
@themadtitan76032 ай бұрын
Agreed. The game came out in 2010 and was written even earlier, the line won't be a reflection of anything outside of its own story and themes. The only way it's a reference is via headcanon.
@thestrong2401Ай бұрын
I only choose go for the money with high honor because it's a more badass ending for arthur and you blind Micah in a eye. The go with john ending is depressing af.
@Unbeknown70182 ай бұрын
The reason why Arthur was never mentioned or barely mentioned in Red Dead 1 was becuase Rockstar haven't made Red Dead 2 so Arthur doesn't exist yet.
@WhiteBoyEvil2 ай бұрын
He was good and bad its hard quite say at the end
@danim84142 ай бұрын
Is Bonnie McFarlane Sadie‘s sister?
@backlandjbreaker242 ай бұрын
No way you compare sweet bonnie to Mary sue 💀🤮
@ilovealbertweskersm2 ай бұрын
What 💀?@@backlandjbreaker24
@lego_boba_fett_watch2 ай бұрын
@@ilovealbertweskersmto be fair there's not really anything to point to this theory
@ilovealbertweskersm2 ай бұрын
@@lego_boba_fett_watch Ik but is he talking about her like that ?
@themadtitan76032 ай бұрын
@@ilovealbertweskersm Because they possibly don't like her character and/or think she was written as too competent considering who she was and where we find her in the story. An opinion that a subset of the fanbase has and isn't new at all.