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@andrub79217 күн бұрын
I'm not saying anything BUT both of these people would be better in the Minecraft movie
@ravenruppie9617 күн бұрын
This made me snort water lmao
@uxzavr17 күн бұрын
💀💀💀
@shlokwaghela956017 күн бұрын
What the hell 🤣
@MrBangBat17 күн бұрын
God *DAMN*
@vicentevalenzuela462417 күн бұрын
Take my fucking like man, you earned it
@Timurlane6417 күн бұрын
Trained heavy with low reps for years. Joints couldn’t take it, and gym injuries were becoming more frequent. Now train much higher reps, still push toward failure, and I am happy with the results. Much less pain, and when in doubt I will leave some in the tank rather than risk injury. A marathon, not a sprint. Tomorrow will come no matter what.
@DecayDNB17 күн бұрын
I have spoken directly to a mr Olympian who expressed exactly the same thoughts, lower weight with higher intensity and rom builds better muscles with less risk of injury
@chrisweidner476817 күн бұрын
Well said. At 66, this becomes the norm. Still have heavy days. However, they are becoming fewer and farther between.
@J.D.Mc.17 күн бұрын
Stay strong sir. NEVER stop lifting. 💪🏼😎👍🏻
@lloydaran16 күн бұрын
10-15 is my go to as the best compromise for me in terms of enjoyment, time efficiency, load on joints. It's nice to have so much room to work with and find what suits you best.
@Mrbobcat716 күн бұрын
I agree. I just went up slightly from 7 - 8 reps to 9 - 12 and I feel much better and seem to be growing a bit. But I'm not going to all our failure on one set either and trying 2 sets to near failure. Wish I did this switch before I messed my hip and back up.
@wimeatsworld16 күн бұрын
Gotta love Dr Mike, willing to hand out trade secrets without the threat of deletion.
@BrainGrapes14 күн бұрын
I love that there’s atleast one person who watched this thinking, right 17 okay let’s go, and have told everyone they know that 17 is the magic number
@acemad19 күн бұрын
42
@darkerthanblack6534 күн бұрын
100
@ernienegrete57023 күн бұрын
Q
@Mr.RueBean2 күн бұрын
It makes no difference. 17 is the best
@神聖な成就17 күн бұрын
There is a kernel of truth in every joke, so 17 must be the RP secret perfect repetition, which you’ll learn when you become 33rd degree Renaissance Practitioner.
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
Israetelmaxxing
@pavlevasilev296811 күн бұрын
The average between 5 and 30 in 17.5 that's probably why.
@pavlevasilev296811 күн бұрын
The average between 5 and 30 in 17.5 that's probably why.
@Peter-jc4by17 күн бұрын
Bro looks like juggernaut
@KryzysX17 күн бұрын
lol
@Gojimaru16 күн бұрын
Looks like a juggernaut miniature.
@Bxnjiboy9 күн бұрын
Mini pekka
@BigJDinSC17 күн бұрын
You can tell which group is which by the crankiness and workout dread of the 30-rep group.
@comanchio197614 күн бұрын
I do try to lean more towards higher rep ranges, especially now I'm getting older. But I have to say, it can be a lot less fun...😐
@08turboSS12 күн бұрын
@@comanchio1976higher rep range?
@comanchio197612 күн бұрын
@@08turboSS 12-30. It burns like crazy. Almost painful for my biceps and triceps.
@rano261316 күн бұрын
When you drow Will Smith from memory.
@Necr0Kat6 күн бұрын
😂
@lu77xiaojun3717 күн бұрын
"But Marge, you can prove ANYTHING with statistic's.....7 out of 10 people know that." Homer J. Simpson
@ChrisPierreBacon11 күн бұрын
Something about your videos is so reassuring
@AbrasiveTea17 күн бұрын
I feel like the more I watch the more I don’t think I know what I am doing
@broski86617 күн бұрын
😂
@AbrasiveTea17 күн бұрын
@@broski866 lol seriously I feel like I am over training now when I thought I was training normally.
@richardevans890816 күн бұрын
It’s very hard to actually over train. There are humans that live in tribes to this day that spend all day hunting, their whole day is a workout and they don’t worry about over training. I can’t remember this guys name but he said that over training is when your performance dips for a prolonged period of time I.e multiple weeks and at that point just do a deload week.
@AbrasiveTea16 күн бұрын
@@richardevans8908 that is fair. I thought when they said number of sets for growth they meant per sub set of muscles. For example when I work shoulders on a day I do 12 working sets of 12 for of the heads of the deltoid and I usually work shoulders 3-4 times a week. I think now that when they talk about 20 sets a week they really mean 20 for the shoulder all together. I do the same kind of thing for upper middle and lower chest, and back muscles.
@thestairguy16 күн бұрын
@@richardevans8908Literally this guy, Dr Mike, said that about David Goggins 😂
@OfficialYoutubeAlgorithmКүн бұрын
-I use my weights in 10-20 Reps Sets -When I want to upgrade the weight I go for 5-10 Reps with the new weight -Then I'm a week or two intercalating this two methods until I can get 10-20 reps with the new weight -Then start again Keep the grind guys🙏💪🏾
@MonZFonti3 күн бұрын
That's actually my fave number. I like it even more. 💪🏽💪🏽
@benjaminford101017 күн бұрын
I can't believe Mike was the Bay Harbor Butcher. Clearly, I’m not the only one who gets to watch the entirety of House MD, Doctor Who, Random Chinese movies, Sherlock, and The Rookie all on shorts. If y’all can name any more then be my guest.
@alexacastellanos41617 күн бұрын
I just saw this. 😂😂😂😂😂
@zeyadmohamed631517 күн бұрын
What do you mean?
@daniz755717 күн бұрын
why even is this comment
@darkwhite125917 күн бұрын
oh boy here we go with the dexter comments
@v3u22fo2n317 күн бұрын
dr. mike killed liver king with the Ryzen 4070
@tmadlegionsoul32559 күн бұрын
My legs respond with high reps more. Sets of 20ish. My upper body responds better to 8ish reps to failure. And instead of doing a rep range I know I can do, ill set goals. Like 3 sets of 8 on bench of x weight, knowing I currently cant do it. Ill fail and crank out as many half reps as I can. Once I can get 3 sets of 8 at that weight, ill increase the weight. Same for my legs except more reps, squats 2 sets of 20 of x weight.
@thomasspielman57716 күн бұрын
Just say no, Mike. People who are asking these types of questions aren't looking for that kind of answer.
@aidanpace330811 күн бұрын
I've always had the mentality of hypertrophy being able to be achieved in any rep range as long as you PO properly and train close to failure. I just alter rep ranges depending on what other factors I want to improve for that muscle. If I want hypertrophy with strength gains, I'll use lower reps, and if I want hypertrophy with endurance gains, I'll use higher reps. Mix in a bit of plyometrics for power, and you'll be on track to look and perform amazingly
@winstonbarker793617 күн бұрын
The alright great made me chuckle
@irjensen12 күн бұрын
The average of 5 and 30 is 17.5 👀
@lutskeWetterpes13 күн бұрын
17! Never would have guessed 😮😮😮
@igbagboolajide522117 күн бұрын
Sooo.... 17?... 🙂↔️
@petrogcracker671816 күн бұрын
So the question is still not answered. How many reps ideally should be made per set and how many sets should one make to not train mediocre but hard ?
@angqlo1116 күн бұрын
He said its relative. Try different approaches to see what works for you, keeping in mind that there is nuance for the volume you want to use for your various muscle groups.
@muffy_bunz15 күн бұрын
Bro, do you listen?
@DaniloDanny7714 күн бұрын
Hear me out. In essence, you should be doing 60% for warm up and no lower than 80% during the regular reps, be it number of reps or intensity of reps. Simple. If your maximum is 30 push-ups, than do 24 per set. If you squat maximum 100kg once, then squat 80kg for around 6 to 8 reps. Simple.
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
@@DaniloDanny77 what about 12 reps with 60kg in squat?
@rotte553716 күн бұрын
Is that Bossa Nova I hear in the background there? Great choice!
@slimspinach855415 күн бұрын
How does that correlate to strength gain or the amount of weight you're capable of moving? Is there a difference between what you call muscle growth versus strength?
@icedzinnia3 күн бұрын
My hips and glutes didn't start carrying the work of squats until i started doing 50 at a time in 1 rep. THEN, after weeks of doing 50 at a time, i felt myself shift to glutes. Like, i had never been in contact with them before! once i felt what muscles were supposed to activate, those that came out--were FORCED out, i can do normal 10-20 sets and feel the right muscles working. Not my thighs, not my back. I didn't plan this. I just noticed it when it happened and every squat since.
@rolfstalker29863 күн бұрын
I try to do a rep range that makes me feel that I can push myself towards failure without hating the exercise. This creates different ranges for different exercises, and I'm fine with that.
@jeffbm688017 күн бұрын
Which group is stronger...
@AndreaAustoni16 күн бұрын
Which group is more likely to get injured? WHo cares about strength when you train for muscle size? Do what works for you and your goals.
@FreshDumbledore93416 күн бұрын
@jeffbm6880 Most likely the group that trained with lower reps and heavier weights
@jeffbm688016 күн бұрын
@AndreaAustoni usually only spend 1 week @ rpe 9 or 10. You mean to tell me your scared of that?
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
@@jeffbm6880 you're*
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
@@jeffbm6880 Grammatical errors completely ruins your argument.
@C-24-Brandan10 күн бұрын
Secret to building muscle ... you want to grow the most, you just up the dose!! 😂❤💪
@Mitch-tb1mp9 күн бұрын
I’ve found 10x10 works the best for me. The ole German volume training.
@dimitriosmeimaridis903417 күн бұрын
Is it just me or is his head getting more squared as days go by?
@ravedisc10 күн бұрын
With no drugs, 4 to 6 reps is king. When you build some of that sarcomere hypertrophy you can play with reps to build more of the sarcoplasm and pump the muscles. With lower reps more weight, the muscle tone is incomparable with anything else, because even while relaxed, the muscle has a percentage of tension. I guess you would see the difference between both groups (low reps and high reps) by looking at the muscle tone.
@beasteticfitness913017 күн бұрын
Its been said that 21 sets a week per muscle group helps with muscle growth the most! so again its not reps in a set but total reps in the end
@aran12510 күн бұрын
I’ll do 7-10 total work sets, not Including warm up sets, and legit get more out of training such body part. Any body part. Not really anything to debate. One can either train with heavy weight low volume, and exhaust the muscle, or train for a “pump”. You’ll tell the difference between the two on stage. No debate.
@kushalramakanth79229 күн бұрын
You missed the point of the video lmao! 21 or 17 are just averages, what works specifically for you can vary quite a bit
@vorockket290814 күн бұрын
If you have all the time in the world, low weight high reps because less likely to get injured, if you wanna get in the gym for 30 mins and out high weight low reps
@terminaldeity7 күн бұрын
My dude, low rep ranges require more sets. The time resting between sets is much more than doing a high rep set
@adammac496011 күн бұрын
The reps have to be effective. So if am doing a lat pull down and am pulling 80kg and I am doing it but I can’t feel my lats working then I reduce the weight and do higher reps and my lats respond I am getting better results with lower weight and a higher reps range then I am if I was lifting heavier. This is the problem with progressive overload. You set yourself a rep range of 6-8. You hit 8 but when you put the weight up your muscles might not respond to the next weight up so it’s best to drop the weight and push the reps up 6-15 then if that still doesn’t work 6-20. It takes a while but been able to lift another 2.5 kg is a big deal when you your weights get heavier
@grishawinner672716 күн бұрын
He has become M.O.D.O.K
@YourDadSaysHi717 күн бұрын
Can you tell me how important vitamins or like supplements are for you ? Like yes definitely should get them or it's either or
@5slistenup.a10isspeaking217 күн бұрын
Hey, I know I’m not the doc himself but thought I’d share my thoughts. I’d say it depends on your own diet, at the end of the day supplements are there to “supplement” a lack in your diet, so if you think you’re getting in enough protein for your body weight already with what you eat (I think the ratio is 1.5g of protein for ever 1kg you weigh for optimal muscle growth, but I’d do your own research just in case I’m misremembering)then great! You wouldn’t need any sort of protein supplement in that case, but I know for a lot of people (myself included) hitting that amount of protein daily is really difficult. Creatine I would say is pretty important if your goal is building muscle. As for vitamins again comes down to if you think you are getting enough vitamins in your diet already, but honestly I’d just say if your worried about it just get one of those 1 a day multivitamin tablets and call it a day, it’ll probably be enough alongside a semi-decent diet. Hope this helps bro💪
@YourDadSaysHi717 күн бұрын
@@5slistenup.a10isspeaking2 i appreciate it 🖤🙏
@mado377315 күн бұрын
Gonna be a million new kids in the gym doing exactly 17 reps
@MichaelPaul336010 күн бұрын
You have muscles in your nose 💪
@davidash272715 күн бұрын
Good site
@BrandAlpha13 сағат бұрын
Always did 16 reps
@EnligUlv13 күн бұрын
The average solo trainee defaults to feeling his way towards the “best” rep range with such feedback as “pump”, fatigue, & motivation - all of these are so subjective rendering them useless. Back when I was young, the high volume marathon sessions advocated by the Weider Publishing Empire boded well for their supplement business via the “more is better” economic fallacy… Along came Jones, Mentzer advocating brief HIT sessions with lots of off days; problem: you need two training partners for assistance to reach real failure - non probable for 90% of us working alone… Maybe by today we’ve come out of the dark ages and that real science without a narrative is prevailing, but many “experts” fail to cite their sources by simply tossing out that all too familiar boilerplate statement, “the literature says…”
@thoreaurug214217 күн бұрын
When it is said that some people respond better to x reps whereas other muscles in that same person can respond to y, is there any indication of a trend of particular exercises that favor x or y? Also, any data for reps for a very tall or very short person? RP is the one site to rule them all.
@Brydan13 күн бұрын
It's advisable to use lower weight and higher reps on smaller lifts that tend to tax the joints and tendons more, like Lateral Raises, Triceps work, some of the biceps stuff, etc., as long as you train the muscle to failure. Better to fight through the pain in the burning muscle than through the pain in your elbow, that will limit your total volume. For big compound lifts like squats, deadlifts, BB bench presses you can profit from using higher weights and lower reps since these don't take a toll on single joints as much and you get less exhausted from the fatigue they induce. It's also fine to go lower weight/higher reps on compounds as well, but the struggle you're facing when doing sets of 30 squats to failure is not only the burning muscle 🤮
@elbowstrike16 күн бұрын
Ok but what about differences in capillary growth?
@ckcarr296515 күн бұрын
2 Minecraft blocks talking to each other
@ruairipollock762417 күн бұрын
I was going to skip this because I thought it was one of those annoying huel ads
@garethlatcham599317 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂. Ditto
@chaseomb97338 күн бұрын
Does anyone think that certain muscle groups respond better at different ranges?
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
It seems to be like that, but we don't know for sure.
@luthergrey77717 күн бұрын
I doubt ull see this, but is there a certain i guess level you should get to as far as being a fat guy before trying to weight train? Im 6 2 and i lost all my fat went from 348 to 205 and now im unsure if i went too far or where to start. Definitely need advice because i used dieting fasting and just working construction but i want to meet my potential that i should have in my early twenties
@garretabbott17 күн бұрын
Nah bro, 205 at 6'2 isn't too thin to start lifting. Just eat healthy foods, pay attention to your macros, and stay consistent 💯
@whzysywuxhhs16 күн бұрын
You can start lifting at any weight. The difference between starting slim and fat is that a fat guy will build muscle faster If his cardiovascular system isn't on the verge of death. You can lose excessive weight and still build muscle - you just have to consume enough protein(Roughly 1.8g for 1kg of your weight. In freedom units: 1g for 1lb)
@jeanpitre578914 күн бұрын
Guess who's doing 17 rep sets from now on?
@Martyr21716 күн бұрын
I started at 3 pullups/chin-ups and now I normally just stay at 5 but I do this several times a day when I'm at work. I started a year ago, only managing 3, sometimes 2 depending.
@LarsRyeJeppesen16 күн бұрын
ok. good to know.
@lucidox16 күн бұрын
You should just do assisted pullups it'll help you grow better
@DaniloDanny7714 күн бұрын
For that period, it's too few. You should be doing at least 8 reps and at least 6 sets. Somehow, I'm sure you could do it, so do it.
@watchdog16311 күн бұрын
But for nattys, they affect testosterone differently. Low reps, heavy weight raises testosterone a lot more than high reps, low weight. I can feel the difference like night and day even up to 2 days after.
@ROCKOCTANE14 күн бұрын
Legs 30 rep , Tom Platz .
@lucienberl5 күн бұрын
I do as much weight as I can from last week. Then I do 12. If it's easy I add more weight. If it's hard I keep it the same. And if I can't do 12 I will lower the weight until I can do the first two things.
@08turboSS12 күн бұрын
Reps? Sets?
@Lost_In_LA9 күн бұрын
It's easier for me to feel a pump if the reps are on the higher side. I can artificially get to failure faster by using a relatively high weight but the reps could be so few not to give me a pump.
@Sir.DavidBruce17 күн бұрын
Tried Bicep curls and needed to do higher reps with lower weight because I injured my wrist and had an insane pump/failure at around 25. Felt the same as a lower rep set with heavier weights but required more willpower and sucks 😂
@neiledwards89319 күн бұрын
Scientific / reps / 12 reps put out sometime ago .
@rns742612 күн бұрын
I dunno. I’m a natural lifter. For me I’ve tried both ranges for years at a time. I responded best to sets of 5 using linear progression. Things had to change some at intermediate level. But still sets of 5 seemed to be the sweet spot for me.
@veritorossi2 күн бұрын
For me it's better more reps less weight or even just body weight. If it's too heavy me joints start to hurt and it's just doesn't make sense to injure myself.
@Ryan_F.17 күн бұрын
They weren’t actually off camera though!
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
It was a joke
@kiefervandenberg7 күн бұрын
What video is this one?
@anna-mariageorgiades36284 күн бұрын
That's why most of the time you do 3 sets of 8
@angelsjoker819010 күн бұрын
17 it is now! Not gonna listen to the rest!
@shawnbrooks52939 күн бұрын
Why is Dr Mike looking like Megamind?
@WarrenAndersen-do9bp13 күн бұрын
And D-Bol
@tom65679 күн бұрын
Dont understand so many conflicting studies. 1957 it was discovered that rep range does not count, juat the level of intensity. So many varying intensity levels with these studies surely!?
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
It wasn't discovered
@EvanVittoriano15 күн бұрын
What i want to know is, how many is he doin' with that dome tho!
@Erikpdx3 күн бұрын
The only reps that matter are the ones you dont want to do
@bthorn503510 күн бұрын
I use a pyramid. Lots of reps at the start for warmup. Add weight every set. Pull weight off at the back end. Muscles get rekt.
@cqiiom44911 күн бұрын
How is his nose jacked
@cata922316 күн бұрын
Imagine 3s reps at 15-20 for 45s
@houtexflex12 күн бұрын
Basically the data gets fuzzy when you view the full body muscle mass of a group. If you were to study particular muscle groups of a group, say deltoids of 30 participants, you may see trends associated with the original question. The question is too broad.
@wallpaper530012 күн бұрын
I do 6 to 8 reps
@JJ-ix4zr15 күн бұрын
Will snith
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
😹
@ChanceBloodstoner16 күн бұрын
The fuck does this guy know
@vidimperfect48648 күн бұрын
8-12
@bradtidball520617 күн бұрын
Anywhere from 5-25 is good. If you get higher than that you should increase the weight.
@andrewscott505917 күн бұрын
25 is a super good heuristic, but you can totally grow well even just a bit higher than that. As Dr Mike said, the literature finds no difference between 5 and 30 reps
@suhaasvemuri798017 күн бұрын
lwky for me 6 is the lowest and 15 is the most or else im either gonna lose gains or get hella sore after. And I think that works for most people too. Lifting a weight 30 times just shows that it's too easy for you and it's more cardio than muscle-building.
@LarsRyeJeppesen16 күн бұрын
Fatigue is much much higher with high reps. Worth considering. Try doing 10 sets of 25 reps close to failure. You''l know. or do 5 sets of squats: 3 reps per set, vs 10 reps per set- all close to failure. Good luck
@andrewscott505916 күн бұрын
@@LarsRyeJeppesen 100% some exercises just aren’t meant for high rep counts. Sets of 25 on the squat or Deadlift will melt your brain, and probably not fatigue the local musculature much. Lets look at the flip side though, what about smaller, slower twitch muscles that recover super quick and have almost no systemic fatigue limit, like calves or forearms? No matter how intense you go, you really just don’t get much out of sets of 5-10 on the calf raise. For those muscles where higher rep schemes are maybe more preferable, the upper limit for hypertrophy effectiveness is about 30 reps.
@LarsRyeJeppesen16 күн бұрын
@@andrewscott5059 sounds reasonable Cheers
@MarsiB01316 күн бұрын
The last 4 reps in a set count anyway.
@spikeyspike7916 күн бұрын
So 5 it is as 4 out of 5 reps count only one rep wasted 😊
@MarsiB01316 күн бұрын
@@spikeyspike79 Hypothetically yes but that ammount of reps are not sustainable because of high potential of injury. I usually work in a 6-12 scale depending on the excersise, the muscle and weight.
@KyleLaurier-zg7gm17 күн бұрын
The most important factor is training to failure.
@platosbeard347617 күн бұрын
Anywhere from 0 to 3 RIR will get the job done
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
@@platosbeard3476 yuo
@loganwolv339311 күн бұрын
Milo says you can train with roughly 50 reps and still get simmilar hypertrophy.
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
No you can't😂
@loganwolv33938 күн бұрын
@@garrett7378 You can if the cardiorespiratory system is strong enough. I could do 50 reps of weighted ab crunches so yeah, it's possible but you have to be very lean and pretty darn athletic.
@SeanGray-ur9vy14 күн бұрын
8 to 12!
@acemad19 күн бұрын
42
@lenseay764517 күн бұрын
It depends on the weight you're lifting. For instance, if you squat 444lbs the correct approach is 4 sets of 44 reps. Lift accordingly
@PeteKona17 күн бұрын
5
@barryjb5 күн бұрын
In other words, just get your ass to the gym every day and lift and stop over-analyzing. And don't get injured.
@John-ml1hc11 күн бұрын
for muscle growth thats cool. However, for strength gains. 3 to 5reps..
@garrett73788 күн бұрын
Strength=mass
@MrChochichon14 күн бұрын
If a kid becomes addicted to drugs, sure you can blame the parents. But the ones making the drugs are as bad guys, if not more because they are making money from drug dependencies. It works the same with this show. Sure you can blame the parents, but for fuck sakes these guys made R&D to make the most addictive show for kids...
@zHop317 күн бұрын
But 5 reps will build more strength, which will in turn allow you to lift more, which will in turn allow you to grow more muscle… atleast in theory right
@whzysywuxhhs16 күн бұрын
Suure but he's mainly talking about hypertrophy on this channel
@RTUK116 күн бұрын
Yeah RP is always about hypertrophy. If you compared the 30 group to the 5 one would be insanely stronger than the other. I know what id rather be
@moustafael-shaboury265916 күн бұрын
I think either way you're getting close to failure. More weight can mean more tension, but so can getting close to failure at the end of a set
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
Nope not true. Even in Theory
@TurdBoi66616 күн бұрын
@@RTUK1 they also have more injuries. I know which I wanna be
@quest4verity14813 күн бұрын
17 😂
@tomber741115 күн бұрын
If u want strength and size do lower reps but still around 5 reps. If u want endurance and size do huger reps. If u wanna do smth in between to around 15 reps
@MeanMurph15 күн бұрын
Fahves
@susantaswain677417 күн бұрын
The other bro opposite Dr looks like "Changed Race Will Smith"
@corenko17 күн бұрын
Science says 5-30 reps are all equal but I don’t think anyone should go above 15 (more muscle damage, more fatigue for no additional benefit)
@garagegoblin85817 күн бұрын
Based on what proof?
@mahehahee17 күн бұрын
@@garagegoblin858 His asshole
@corenko17 күн бұрын
@@garagegoblin858 There's bunch of new studies that show lower reps are better for hypertrophy because they create less muscle damage and less fatigue than higher reps 15+
@thomasnewson118117 күн бұрын
It depends on your ability to recover. Also the quality of the sets may decrease if you are doing more overall sets so some ppl will see more results with more and some will see more with less , hence what he is saying in the vid
@clutch4444417 күн бұрын
Agreed, 20+ reps takes a lot of time and I don't feel that it helps, but it depends on the person