This is what a $1000 Motherboard looks like...

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JayzTwoCents

JayzTwoCents

Күн бұрын

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@kevin_wb0poh
@kevin_wb0poh 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that this is way too expensive, but it is, indeed, very interesting what goes into a $1000 board.
@zodwraith5745
@zodwraith5745 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you get a $300 motherboard with $50 in LEDs and $650 in cables and packaging they spent $20 on.
@jacobsvideochannel5998
@jacobsvideochannel5998 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether the overclocking buttons are just increasing the price or whether they're are actually useful. I can't imagine an overclocker using the buttons.
@21dayjac
@21dayjac 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsvideochannel5998 usually the important part about overclocking motherboards is the hardware and build quality, it focuses on stuff like high quality power delivery and system stability
@spankbuda5760
@spankbuda5760 2 жыл бұрын
You must enjoy using commas, when leaving, comments, for us to read.
@pedro4205
@pedro4205 2 жыл бұрын
@@spankbuda5760 It is, indeed, a language habit, since english uses little to none commas, it can truly be hard for native speakers to read something that someone with other language base wrote.
@haywoodjay385
@haywoodjay385 2 жыл бұрын
I've been building computers for 23 year and recently I built a 13th gen system with a z790 motherboard and I had to spend $500 to get the board with the features I was looking for. Never in 23 years has a mobo been that expensive to get a decent feature set. I'm baffled the direction we are going.
@VanSanProductions
@VanSanProductions 2 жыл бұрын
makes sense. the cost of all the components that are on the board are expensive too + they are packaginng it all together too. It seems a bit over priced because it literally has no processing power on board, but it does enable to you to get the most out of the chips you put on it. Because CPU's and GPU's are so much more capable today the motherboard also has to keep up too so all the components are just more expensive.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 2 жыл бұрын
@@VanSanProductions It's not just about component cost. Sure, that's obviously a factor but companies like MSI and ASUS are charging these prices because they can. It's really that simple.
@Aturixios
@Aturixios 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- Oh, definitely. 2.5 years ago I spent €200 on a B550 motherboard (the same board is around €250 now), a similarly spec'd B650 one from the same brand and product line is €325. Even if you take into account inflation and chip shortages, the premium is still very much chosen by the manufacturers.
@tuttocrafting
@tuttocrafting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank I'm not alone in this sinking boat. I'm looking around for next build but at those prices i might get a laptop and upgrade more frequently... This is insane AMD b650 here are 300USD. It's basically a gaming tax.
@kyuholee1912
@kyuholee1912 2 жыл бұрын
I sunk $300 for z790 ddr5 and the price shot upto $400 in a week. MOBO prices are going nutz
@damientech88
@damientech88 2 жыл бұрын
My experience with high-end boards is that bugs don't get picked up because the user base is so small.
@PuddingXXL
@PuddingXXL Жыл бұрын
Actually a great point. I just paid 200 for b550 and was baffled to find out it was actually a good price.. The times of 70$ mid tier mainboard seem to be over sadly :(
@poggers5961
@poggers5961 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you have no clue how hyped I am to build my newest build soon, a little over two weeks from now, i'll be trying to get something going with streaming. You've gave me the knowledge and confidence to build a PC in the first place. Thank you.
@c4pnk1rk
@c4pnk1rk 2 жыл бұрын
We wait for 2 years with GPU prices through the roof, then as soon as they come down to a reasonable price, the manufacturers are like... "Heh... those fools paid stupid prices for the video cards for years... Let's see if they'll do it for the rest of the components now!"
@markojovanovic9651
@markojovanovic9651 2 жыл бұрын
True bro, they milking us at this point
@markojovanovic9651
@markojovanovic9651 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast ram and storage is cheap Copium
@daviniarobbins9298
@daviniarobbins9298 Жыл бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651 Only if the memory is DDR4. DDR5 is still at least double in price what DDR4 is. A shame you can't run a computer on just RAM and storage. A budget build is now at least £1000 to £1500(CPU graphics vs GPU).
@ramonlujan2377
@ramonlujan2377 Жыл бұрын
​@Davinia Robbins uhhh no. it's more like $600
@nehcooahnait7827
@nehcooahnait7827 Жыл бұрын
Pcie 4.0 SSDs are getting cheaper.
@Whatupdays
@Whatupdays 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching your channel back in the 8350 days. You went from a bedroom to a vast studio space. Merry Christmas, Jay, to you and your family.
@ulysses2162
@ulysses2162 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 8150, then got the 8350... I still have it, but it isn't in use. I'm thinking of putting it on eBay.
@TCLG6x6
@TCLG6x6 2 жыл бұрын
@@ulysses2162 im still using a 8350 here
@joecool684
@joecool684 2 жыл бұрын
Now it’s time for the ultimate face off: an all Asus ROG build vs. all EVGA build, with price to performance
@EVOCAT
@EVOCAT 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't evga stop making graphic cards because the 4000 series was too expensive?
@Sparplepluss
@Sparplepluss 2 жыл бұрын
@@EVOCAT jay has a evga 4090 they gave one to him since they did make a few.
@OscyJack-
@OscyJack- 2 жыл бұрын
What price to performance? Motherboard prices are worse than GPUs these days, relatively speaking.
@OscyJack-
@OscyJack- 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sparplepluss no, it's EVGA next gen graphics. They don't have a license to make the 4090 ;)
@themobster7284
@themobster7284 2 жыл бұрын
GIGAbyte AoRUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asus ROG >>>>>> EVGA...
@artnashjr2500
@artnashjr2500 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Spent last week in the hospital and had a weeks worth of your videos stacked up, and now this unboxing makes for a great Christmas gift. This motherboard is way out of my range but it was still nice to see.
@seanet1310
@seanet1310 2 жыл бұрын
They likely didn't want to push the RAM further out to preserve maximum signal integrity.
@Fate_GO
@Fate_GO 2 жыл бұрын
Had me laughing at the end. "The system is down The system is down!". I havent heard a StrongBad reference in years!
@Laconic_
@Laconic_ 2 жыл бұрын
*I'M BLIND! MY PRAYERS HAVE FINALLY BEEN ANSWERED!*
@nihren2406
@nihren2406 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that always gets me about these boards is that there's a trade-off the more M.2 or PCIe slots you use. That Gen5 PCIe card will make the first x16 slot run at x8. Now Gen5 x8 is pretty much Gen4 x16, so it won't hurt current rigs, but if Gen5 GPU's start hitting the market, even if they're not fully utilizing that speed, it might be a concern for some. And sometimes using specific M.2 slots has the same effect, either turning the first x16 into a x8 or shutting off the second PCIe slot entirely. As for that GenZ.2, if I recall one side is Gen5 the other side is Gen4, so if you can't run both a Gen5 and Gen4 at full speeds, kind of feels pointless to do that.
@ThePopeofPoland1
@ThePopeofPoland1 2 жыл бұрын
Since pci-e Gen 7 just launched this year I feel they might skip Gen 5 gpus and go to gen 6 since the next gen of cards is still 2+ years away with the current overstock of chips that amd and nvidia have because of their bloated orders tsmc won't allow them to cancel.
@pedro4205
@pedro4205 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it would affect less if the GPU was PCIe 5.0. Even if the slot is capable of PCIe 5.0 x8 it will run at 4.0 x8 when you put a Gen 4 GPU in it.
@Prophetian
@Prophetian 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I'm sticking to AM4 version of this MB. Can't we have 3-5 M.2 SSDs without turning the primary x16 pcie slot into x8? Probably not possible with the available lanes but hopefully in the near future with 8000 or 9000 CPUs that would require a 1600w PSU or a small nuclear reactor.
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough you don't have to make this compromise with the cheaper boards. The Asus TUF Gaming X670E-plus (about £350) has 20 pcie 5.0 lanes and splits them between the first pcie x16 slot and a single m.2 slot (which is x4) with everything else running at pcie 4.0 or 3.0. The only compromise you have to make with that one is running the pcie 3.0 m.2 slot at x2 instead of x4 if you want to use the SATA ports.
@nihren2406
@nihren2406 2 жыл бұрын
@spankeyfish sadly for me, for my new build I'm transplanting my existing three drives which is one Gen3 M.2, and two SATA SSD's. I also need about at least 8 USB slots on the back of the motherboard.
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 2 жыл бұрын
For $1000 it better blow a lot more than my mind!
@nxblelxrdjova7147
@nxblelxrdjova7147 2 жыл бұрын
Been using this board since AM5 launched. The bios updates really made a significant difference in the experience, and I’m comfortably OCing my 2 x 32gb 6000mhz cl30 kit to 6400 mhz cl32 using the presets in the bios.
@macblink
@macblink 2 жыл бұрын
6000mhz holy fuck
@balla2172
@balla2172 Жыл бұрын
Does it give you a happy ending? If not...
@GhostOfSnuffles
@GhostOfSnuffles 2 жыл бұрын
Put all of those temp probes on the 4090 power connector just to make sure.
@QuiteLunacy
@QuiteLunacy 2 жыл бұрын
The one time I spent more than 400 on a MB it died on me in like 3 months. Since then I like to stay in the 200-300 range and have never had a problem with them when it comes to OCing the CPU and RAM. Though I never go to the extremes either.
@SuperChocMuffins
@SuperChocMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
@Don tbf I don't think they're gonna spend another 400 for the sake of "sample rate" after an experience like that
@digitalrandomart3049
@digitalrandomart3049 2 жыл бұрын
nobody should spend more than 100 dollars on a motherboard
@NoName-to5xl
@NoName-to5xl 2 жыл бұрын
200-300? Im no expert on mobos, but i am a gamer, a coder and an engineer, i do a lot with my machine....I've always had everything i need in the 80-150 range. Usually i spend 100-120. What does that 2x+ you spend give you? Genuinely curious.
@Sluka.
@Sluka. 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-to5xl bells and whistles + MORE RGB 🤑🤑🤑🤑
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 2 жыл бұрын
I have gone 3 of these exact Motherboards, I bought from Amazon. My issue was the usb ports at the back were loose and kept disconnecting my devices every time j moved or touched geb cable. Because I was so adamant in owning this board my 4th board was ok.
@joanneknight4503
@joanneknight4503 2 жыл бұрын
The primary m.2 slot is under the block that runs horizontal just above the gpu slot - same as in the am4 version of the motherboard. Also make sure that your gpu backplate isn't too thick to prohibit fitting it because of that block.
@zhangbohaoovid
@zhangbohaoovid 2 жыл бұрын
Searching through comments all day to find someone pointing out this main m.2 slot, thank you bro😊
@Tennosou
@Tennosou Жыл бұрын
You mean the one with a block that houses a singular m.2? The one that connects to the PCIE 5 slot? Why not in the Gen Z.2 drive? I'm confused. 😕
@zhangbohaoovid
@zhangbohaoovid Жыл бұрын
@@Tennosou I doubleckecked the specs, and that block doesnt have any M.2 slot underneath.
@Tennosou
@Tennosou Жыл бұрын
@zhangbohaoovid the block with the LED of the ROG logo? Yeah, think that one does not. But the one below it does, and it can house 2 m.2 ssds. Apparently, those are the last slots you should use in terms of performance, correct me if im wrong.
@GFDthatsMe
@GFDthatsMe Жыл бұрын
@@Tennosou Because its a pcie 5 m.2 slot.... if you use the gen z.2 drive with both a pcie 5 and pcie 4 m.2's, your boot drive with default to pcie 4 speeds. thats not the case if you only use one of the slots on the z.2 but that wouldnt be very smart
@AtlasNYC_
@AtlasNYC_ 2 жыл бұрын
Never in a million years will I buy this MB BUT man is it cool to see
@christianrobloxserver7282
@christianrobloxserver7282 2 жыл бұрын
i have the intel one, z690 maximus extreme, and it is by far the worst value i've ever seen. Basically a $450 mobo with fancy screens all over it and a lot of useless accessories. it doesn't even have a DP port for fucks sake. and it has 1 less USB port than their mid range boards -___-
@Gravenkal
@Gravenkal 2 жыл бұрын
On getting 3 generations out of a motherboard, I bought only a mid-high mobo and cpu back in 2011 and got 12 years out of it. I didn't know this existed and got one of their lower price ones for my new PC I plan to have for another 10 years
@Swordust
@Swordust Жыл бұрын
17:11 Excellent Strongbad reference, Jay. You truly are a man of culture.
@AutonomousMoo
@AutonomousMoo 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the X670E Extreme does fit in a O11 Evo but you won't be able to plug in any sata drives with out removing the hard drive tray as theirs barely any room with 13 fans and a lot of cables underneath the cable management tray. Have the front mesh panel with 3 fans mounted. Currently waiting for a replacement Asus X670E Extreme as the first unit was defective. I'm tempted to order a Lian Li v3000 plus or wait for the O11 Evo XL.
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын
13 fans lol. I'm not an engineer but I can tell you 3 fans can work better than that, the case design has to create a vacuum with highest airflow. Might even be more efficient and energy saving.
@Pisscan
@Pisscan 2 жыл бұрын
13 fans 💀
@AutonomousMoo
@AutonomousMoo 2 жыл бұрын
@Fyn Kozari had for intake 3 front, 3 side, 3 bottom. Exhaust 1 rear, 3 top. Originally tried for 6 on top for a push and pull but the VRM was too tall.
@little_fluffy_clouds
@little_fluffy_clouds 2 жыл бұрын
This board also fits in the O11 Air mini
@CR500R
@CR500R 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running the full 13 fans in my O11Evo, just because. I like excess!
@RomaLopezQuintero
@RomaLopezQuintero 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay just wanted to thank you for all your useful videos they were really helpful to me, just finished building my new gaming/work rig following many of your advices. Thanks a lot man and keep the good work
@tnypxl
@tnypxl 2 жыл бұрын
I start to sweat when a motherboard is more than $280
@hmm396
@hmm396 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, no reason to get an extremely expensive motherboard. As long as it has all the ports and features you need or want it’s fine.
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 2 жыл бұрын
I get heart palpitations above $450..
@dangerpizzaslice
@dangerpizzaslice 2 жыл бұрын
Boy you must be dripping nowdays
@theholt2ic219
@theholt2ic219 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel spending more than $300 on a MB is too much.
@kalebporter1529
@kalebporter1529 2 жыл бұрын
My first build about half a year ago used a 100 dollar motherboard.
@chrismumbach5348
@chrismumbach5348 2 жыл бұрын
All the info is great, but I appreciate the Strong Bad reference the most. Merry Christmas!
@kebas239
@kebas239 Жыл бұрын
I just got this board for about $700...main reason is that everything I could find said that this was the best AMD board for the RTX 4090 and I figured I was spending so much already that I wouldn't cut corners here.
@prathmeshpatil6425
@prathmeshpatil6425 2 жыл бұрын
Was hoping for a foldable motherboard at 1000$
@jpshawcross
@jpshawcross 2 жыл бұрын
Any motherboard is foldable if you’re strong enough… and brave enough… and dumb enough
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 4 ай бұрын
As you can clearly see this is designed to fold once.
@mr.c.6241
@mr.c.6241 2 жыл бұрын
Jay that is a kickass board for sure. You are right about the size of the board and case compatibility. I am running the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 HDMI Extended ATX AMD Motherboard and was planning on using the Corsair 5000D but the grommets were too close and could not make the bend so i went with the Corsair 7000D Airflow and it worked perfect. Looking forward to your build with this board but i wish you would have done an build with the AM4 version you reviewed.
@henrikbrolin5687
@henrikbrolin5687 2 жыл бұрын
me have same motherboard like you... :P my setup: Chassi: In Win Gnone ( Old but good and work find for me) Cpu: ryzen 9 5950X (OC and UnderVolting 5Ghz ) Cpu Cooler: EK-AIO 360 Elite D-RGB Motherborad: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME Ram Kit 1: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz Ram Kit 2: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz ( Total Ram: 64Gb ) Gpu 1: GainWard Phantom 3080 GS Gpu 2: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC SSD 1 : M.2 Nvme Samsung 970 pro 512GB ( Duel Boot System, win 10 education, kali, Parrot ) SSD 2: M.2 Nvme samsung 970 evo plus 2tb (For Games Only ) SSD 3: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB ( For LAB And VM = Virtual Machine Only ) SSD 4: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB ( For Games And Program/Apps Only ) SSD 5: samsung 870 evo plus 1tb ( For Vst and Sample Only ) HDD: WD Red Disk "256MB" Total 10TB Optical Drive: Asus Blu-Ray Burner Psu: SilverStone 1500W Strider Gold S 80c I know i need new chassi/chase, so i can get USB Type C and hight Speed too...:P
@dubsb540
@dubsb540 2 жыл бұрын
Am4 is still great value! I bought a returned Asus Crosshair Dark Hero for 220 USD. Most of the value and luxury for 1/4 the price.
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but for people like me, upgrading every 6 years, really gotta choose carefully. Im gonna skip Nvidia 3000 series. Maybe even 4000.
@polmao
@polmao 2 жыл бұрын
@@fynkozari9271 Im staying on 3000 series till probably 5000. Everything is too expensive now
@HiPnautique
@HiPnautique 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Hero for 220 is great value. but it was not launched at that price.
@Igbon5
@Igbon5 2 жыл бұрын
Most, not all.
@landiepete
@landiepete Жыл бұрын
Just completed a 7800x3d build. My last AMD was a 1st gen Athlon :D
@5minutereviews296
@5minutereviews296 2 жыл бұрын
almost 4 mill jay, well done, been here since you where in the 200k.
@tty117
@tty117 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my crosshair vi hero from first gen and just upgraded from a 1700x to a 5700x and wow I cannot believe that chips got that much faster. And it’s been pretty good. Probably gonna pair a 6900xt with it and finally retire my old 1070ti.
@frnfission2728
@frnfission2728 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the build when it's done
@hankarmstrong3681
@hankarmstrong3681 2 жыл бұрын
The wire grommets are NOT usable in the be quiet! Dark Base 900 R2 case. The BIG heatsink at the top required the radiator be mounted on top and the fans on bottom(be quiet! Silent Loop 360 and Light Wings 120s, respectively) which worked out well, so far. The removable top cover fits and and everything seems to have adequate clearance. Saw a max CPU temp of 62 C running MSFS2020 with an air-cooled ASUS TUF RTX3090 O24 where the heat really comes from otherwise the computer case is cool and silent until you start up the sim. Time will tell if the kilo-dollar board was worth it. Now for a RTX4090...ROG Strix
@roninbadger7750
@roninbadger7750 2 жыл бұрын
BACK IN MY DAY . . . . we built computer that sat horizontal. GPU weight is irrelevant in this configuration; just monitor weight.
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann 2 жыл бұрын
I LOL'd at the Homestar Runner reference. Strong Bad FTW!!!!
@decimus2840
@decimus2840 2 жыл бұрын
I would say put your main NVME m.2 on the board not the GEN-Z.2 due to it using the CPU PCIe lanes vs chipset lanes. Specifically the left m.2 slot which is the one that uses the 4x lanes AMD AM5 has for m.2 use(the other 4x General purposes CPU PCIe lanes seem to be used for the Intel JHL8540 USB4 controller(yes this does allow Thunderbolt even though it isn't mentioned). Using the right m.2 slot will cut your main PCIe5 slot to 8x and your second PCIe5 slot to 4x. This is also why the PCIe adapter only has one slot I assume as using it also cuts your main PCIe5 slot to 8x. So 4x for this and 4x second board m.2 slot(right one). AMD AM5 only has 28 PCIe 5 lanes: 16 lanes for PCIe5 slots and 8x General Purpose lanes(4x used here for the primary m.2 and 4x for the USB4/Thunderbolt chip(i think), 4x to link to the chipset. The GEN-Z.m is chipset as far as I know so is not as fast. The main reason I got this board was for the RAID so I did a lot of benchmarks. It's RAID sucks for SATA HDD. I tried 2 Exos and then 2 IronWolf Pro 18 TB. RAIDxpert 2 drops the RAID on waking from sleep for Windows 11. Did a ton of trouble shooting with no luck. The NVME m.2 RAID is pretty fast though. Even on the chipset slots VS the CPU slots. 2x 2TB Kingston FURY Renegades gen4 in RAID 0 get 14135MB/s(SEQ1M Q8T1) on CPU lanes and 10722MB/s (SEQ1M Q8T1) on the ROG GEN-Z.2 adapter. I did a lot of benchmarks of these and Terramaster D8-332 RAID Thunderbolt enclosure with 8 Seagate Exos 18TB in RAID 0 and 1/0. Also on the GEN-Z.2 adapter one side is NVME Gen 5 and one is Gen 4. I assume they expect the Gen5 NVME to be hotter hence the pipe only on one side.
@brogster
@brogster Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and was confused when he said he would put his main M.2 in the GEN-Z.2 slot.
@MrDurandal25
@MrDurandal25 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that thing is like $300 more than it should be.
@audhen1
@audhen1 2 жыл бұрын
More like 700 more than it should be
@thetshadow999animates9
@thetshadow999animates9 2 жыл бұрын
@@audhen1 $300 is not a flagship motherboard, I’d say $500 is a very reasonable flagship.
@ceasarcruz8312
@ceasarcruz8312 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetshadow999animates9 who cares when performance is on par with low to midrange mobos anyway...
@thetshadow999animates9
@thetshadow999animates9 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceasarcruz8312 some people want features or even just the look.
@ceasarcruz8312
@ceasarcruz8312 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetshadow999animates9 what features, the same ones that are on cheaper boards? 🤣🤣🤣
@MINDSPARK-u6e
@MINDSPARK-u6e 2 жыл бұрын
_If you’re going to spend $1000 on a motherboard, make sure the copper tracings in the motherboard is made of pure silver over copper, because pure silver allows Electrical currents and data to flow faster than copper_
@Bamaboy813
@Bamaboy813 Жыл бұрын
As someone who usually doesn't read manuals, I like how he keeps opening things up and guessing what they are. I'm sure the manual tells you Jay lol
@PCPAyLOAD
@PCPAyLOAD 9 ай бұрын
Finally decided to update to x670 and been looking at this board. My goodness does it get terrible reviews! Not because of the high price. TONS of stability issues even with the latest drivers in 2024.
@Jean-bs5ip
@Jean-bs5ip 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having only 1 audio output on the back for 1000$
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst 2 жыл бұрын
be honest if you that rich you can afford that board you should also get a soundcard
@kurtwinter4422
@kurtwinter4422 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and it can't do Dolby Digital out because Asus uses bottom shelf DAs
@ZeroGoofs
@ZeroGoofs 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh if you’re spending 1000+ on a motherboard and still using integrated audio, you’ve lost the plot.
@Jean-bs5ip
@Jean-bs5ip 2 жыл бұрын
@@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst and that way this card is bad, you can buy other cards and the soundcard for the same price has this
@Hotobu
@Hotobu 2 жыл бұрын
Comments like these (and the people who like them) shows how out of touch so many people in the tech community are. Imagine getting a 1K motherboard and using integrated audio 😂😂😂😂
@johnvandeven2188
@johnvandeven2188 2 жыл бұрын
Nice board. I would be waiting for the 3D cache cpu's for this board as it deserves the very best of every component. So, in USD, a new box with all the latest and fastest components fitted and all available slots filled.....could this be a USD $10,000 build or more. Looking forward to see what Jay comes up with.
@tomboomeronacrv
@tomboomeronacrv Жыл бұрын
Well this is unfortunate
@Marc-hr7ll
@Marc-hr7ll 2 жыл бұрын
So is there any noticeable performance difference with a 1K mobo compared to a $200-$300 one?
@syf_jojiahhh2834
@syf_jojiahhh2834 2 жыл бұрын
of course but i feel like there is definitely massively diminishing returns after the $500 or even $400 price point
@viscountalpha
@viscountalpha 2 жыл бұрын
@@syf_jojiahhh2834 Based on what? You say there is, but do you have evidence to prove your point?
@viscountalpha
@viscountalpha 2 жыл бұрын
If your not buying the cheapest, most crummy motherboard out there? you will be find with a $200 motherboard. If there's features you don't use on it, it's wasted cash.
@syf_jojiahhh2834
@syf_jojiahhh2834 2 жыл бұрын
@@viscountalpha it’s based on the fact that the performance of these boards simply don’t scale linearly with the price. I’m not going to explain or show the measurements to you, there are plenty of those on YT. I’m speaking very generally here, I’m not going to give supporting evidence just to explain it to you, you can do your own research. If you have to ask that, then it seems like you either disagree or just don’t know anything about the subject
@NahBNah
@NahBNah 2 жыл бұрын
There is zero performance difference in mobos lol. As long as there are current gen compatibility stuff then there is literally zero difference
@reed-young
@reed-young 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be more interested in a piece-by- piece breakdown of the manufacturing cost, showing how much is going to component quality, licenses for firmware of bleeding edge features, decorative panels (supposedly good for heat dissipation, usu, but I'm not convinced), and then of course, profit margin.
@reed-young
@reed-young Жыл бұрын
Knowing the cost of each feature would tell us how mfrs' priorities stack up to ours.
@theftking
@theftking 2 жыл бұрын
On one hand, it's nice that this board includes all these cables and splitters and daughter boards and stuff. ...on the other hand, _it's a $1000 motherboard._ It'd better.
@ineedmymodfixed
@ineedmymodfixed 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the strix x670E gamining wif, and that was my absolute top. I had a hard time buying even this one, but I figured I am swapping platforms along with RAM, so might as well just buy a nice motherboard and be done with it.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 2 жыл бұрын
More money =/= better board. You buy one that has the feature set you're looking for. Otherwise you're just paying more money to look pretty.
@Emboar57913
@Emboar57913 2 жыл бұрын
100% think Strix or ProArt are a way better deal with the majority of what the crosshairs motherboards get for half the price
@snakeshiet
@snakeshiet 2 жыл бұрын
If you can find a proart board for sale
@pdegan2814
@pdegan2814 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of their TUF line since the Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1. For me they strike an excellent balance between price, features and stability, and they don't go crazy with the aesthetic design.
@munkywrench00
@munkywrench00 2 жыл бұрын
Last time , ProArt was basically C8E without the bullshit. Even had the thunderbolt. I would recommend proart over extreme to anyone. Except my C8E blew up on resume twice and the third replacement was covered in scratches so I would actually recommend not buying Asus, especially at this price..
@PlutoOkami
@PlutoOkami 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when a top of the line motherboard used to still be like $300
@Alice_Fumo
@Alice_Fumo 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering whether it comes with 10gig NIC, so I checked and indeed it does. I'm glad this is finally found on "consumer" boards. 1gig has been the standard for way too long, especially considering for how long higher speeds have been available on consumer server boards (such as those by Supermicro). The documentation is downright insane in comparison, too.
@RobinCernyMitSuffix
@RobinCernyMitSuffix 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, 1 GBit NiC is the standard for... pretty much 20 years by now. The issue is just that 10 GBit RJ45 NiCs use a lot of power (several Watts), which needs additional cooling. But I wouldn't mind seeing motherboards with 10GBit SFP+ ports...
@BoeingB17FF
@BoeingB17FF 2 жыл бұрын
I've been loving my Crosshair x670e extreme. As far as actual functional computing, it's irrelevant. But for the extra Liquid Cooling headers and the connectivity as well as the flashy lights, it can't be beat.
@matthewt1732
@matthewt1732 2 жыл бұрын
Something I would be very interested in seeing is how this motherboard, plus Ryzen 9 7950x (AMD's current flagship) would handle 128GB of DDR5 6000/6400Mhz. That is this motherboard's supposed maximum ram and speed. Would this beas... um, motherboard, help to relieve some of the latency issues?
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you spent $5000 on a board, it's still not going to run 128GB at 6000 MT/s. If you are really lucky, you might get it stable around ~5000. Otherwise you're stuck with 64GB on Zen 4.
@oorcinus
@oorcinus 2 жыл бұрын
It would not, as it’s not a motherboard issue, but memory controller issue, and is clearly documented in AMDs spec. 4x32 is technically 2*4 chip selects to get to the right place when addressing the RAM. No motherboard will change this.
@Mewzyc
@Mewzyc 2 жыл бұрын
U are looking for a Enterprise focused build then like Threadrippers motherboards. Something that supports quad channel ram
@MyZombieLick
@MyZombieLick 2 жыл бұрын
I use 128Gb of G.Skill 6000Mhz rated memory on the x670e Crosshair Extreme and while it remains amazingly fast (I can OC it to 6200 stably btw, but while I say that, it does cause a crash about once a month or so, which I think is actually a Windows issues, so whatever... but it's 100% the memory speed as I never get crashes set at 6000 so I stick to 6000, and you know what who cares, it's amazing as is), it is still limited because of the memory controller spec. 6400Mhz is really pushing it. This isn't a limitation of the motherboard uniquely, it's just the memory controller spec, which you can't really do anything about afaik (correct me if I'm wrong here pls). Same issue with any other motherboard afaik. Maybe you want an EPYC or Threadripper for omega memory? Quad channel might be where it's at for you depending on your use case. I really doubt you'd be unhappy with a 7950X and the x670e Crosshair Extreme though.
@oorcinus
@oorcinus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyZombieLick Nothing to correct, you're spot on. Currently available 32GB DDR5 DIMMs are 2 ranks per stick, and the slots themselves are 2 per channel. The memory controller has to go through two chip selects to address a memory block, which takes time (latency). In addition to that, there is some bandwidth weirdness inherent to AM5 CPUs so occasionally, during higher bus loads things get unstable. It is what it is. AMD themselves do NOT recommend going beyond 4500 or whatever the number was.
@Jactional
@Jactional 2 жыл бұрын
You get ripped off is what you get lmao
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, complete waste of money.
@thomasrichard3166
@thomasrichard3166 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight, but I'm still confused why Bitcoin and crypto prices keep dropping? This drop follows a number of other significant drops in recent weeks. I still hold enormous value of cryptos and it scares me. Whats your take on this?
@cresponoe9451
@cresponoe9451 2 жыл бұрын
There are many reasons for this drop in value. One of the main reasons is that there is an ongoing debate about whether or not Bitcoin should be regulated as a security or as a currency.
@beverly8480
@beverly8480 2 жыл бұрын
I would advice you to trade your assets rather than hodl for a future you aren't sure about, only predictions.
@thomasrichard3166
@thomasrichard3166 2 жыл бұрын
@@beverly8480 Well, I've tried but was so confused with the inflation in price, due to the pointers on how to make substantial progress in earnings?
@beverly8480
@beverly8480 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasrichard3166 If you are not conversant with the markets, I'd advise you to get some kind of advise or assistance from a financial/investing coach. It might sound basic or generic, but getting in touch with an investment broker was how I was able to outperform the market and raise a profit of $2.5M For me, its the most ideal way to jump into the market these days
@thomasrichard3166
@thomasrichard3166 2 жыл бұрын
@@beverly8480 That's sum cool profit. I dream of that
@doctordonutdude
@doctordonutdude 2 жыл бұрын
Idk. I desperately want to see a new custom waterloop from you, Jay. I just feel like we haven't seen an interesting watercooling build from you in years. The Singularity case had like, 4 pipes and you can only even 2 of them and it looks nearly identical to every other Singularity case which is like, the least J2C thing I can think of.
@joachimeberhard2203
@joachimeberhard2203 2 жыл бұрын
I have the ROG Z790 Hero with a 13900K, and I just love this motherboard. The best of the best.
@Scarletsb0y
@Scarletsb0y 2 жыл бұрын
it does cost alot but when you have it for free the price does not matter. nice board cant wait to see the build.
@benlee9310
@benlee9310 2 жыл бұрын
Was that a Strongbad reference?!?! 17:11 Ahhhh man. Don’t see that everyday 😂
@spincolor
@spincolor 2 жыл бұрын
This guy cracks me up each and every time as I'm always reminded of his tech support challenge with Gamers Nexus. We all know how that went.
@xXKoNnAn69Xx
@xXKoNnAn69Xx 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a full build video for this motherboard.
@FuelX
@FuelX 2 жыл бұрын
Me: I hate bending cables. Jay: I bought a 90° adapter so I can bend cables. There are so many useful accessories with this motherboard that were not with my X670E-E.
@SadWeeb-
@SadWeeb- 2 жыл бұрын
feels weird that in 30 years this is going to be worth scraps
@deinehoellesebastian9374
@deinehoellesebastian9374 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing, feels bit like getting for 500 DM a CO processor for the Amiga 500
@TheDarkFalcon
@TheDarkFalcon 2 жыл бұрын
It took me a hot minute to remember what "The System Is Down" was from, weow what a throwback 🤣🤣🤣
@LindustriesOutdoors
@LindustriesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I have the x570 version of this board, the built in thunderbolt and 10gbe are pretty sweet for a media creation workstation, plus it can support 5 m.2 drives so it's great. To get all 5 drives supported you have to swap the PCIe settings in bios to make the top slot an x8 slot, but I have had no issues running it like that with my 3080, and zero drive failures or issues either. Expensive line of motherboards but they are awesome.
@QUICKSHIFTtv
@QUICKSHIFTtv 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap wow, did you really just quote Strong Bad.. 😂😂❤
@dreamin47_
@dreamin47_ 2 жыл бұрын
Have this Board with a 7950 and 4090, works for me still learning the facts of life overclocking but has most cores at 5500.
@asai_24
@asai_24 2 жыл бұрын
For those that don't want to watch the full video: Not enough. (sorry jay)
@pokezodia
@pokezodia 2 жыл бұрын
I still rock a crosshair vi extreme, paired with a 5900x! I love it! This one will be my next upgrade next year, probably!
@henrikbrolin5687
@henrikbrolin5687 2 жыл бұрын
this is a good motherborad you have and god Cpu too.. :P my setup: Chassi: In Win Gnone ( Old but good and work find for me) Cpu: ryzen 9 5950X (OC and UnderVolting 5Ghz ) Cpu Cooler: EK-AIO 360 Elite D-RGB Motherborad: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME Ram Kit 1: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz Ram Kit 2: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz ( Total Ram: 64Gb ) Gpu 1: GainWard Phantom 3080 GS Gpu 2: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC SSD 1 : M.2 Nvme Samsung 970 pro 512GB ( Duel Boot System, win 10 education, kali, Parrot ) SSD 2: M.2 Nvme samsung 970 evo plus 2tb (For Games Only ) SSD 3: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB ( For LAB and VM = virtual machine Only ) SSD 4: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB ( For Games And Program/Apps Only ) SSD 5: samsung 870 evo plus 1tb ( For Vst and Sample Only ) HDD: WD Red Disk "256MB" Total 10TB Optical Drive: Asus Blu-Ray Burner Psu: SilverStone 1500W Strider Gold S 80c I know i need new chassi/chase, so i can get USB Type C and hight Speed too...:P
@cloudstrife7083
@cloudstrife7083 Жыл бұрын
I have the previous gen previous model of this board the Hero VIII am4 x570 and I have nothing but praise for them, they are very very good especially for connectivity and options in the bios the build quality and all
@chevy7912
@chevy7912 2 жыл бұрын
JayzTwoCents in this video you talk about Hooking your water pump up to the water pump header. Do you recommend doing that now with this particular board instead of using the Cpu fan header that you have always recommended in the past. I would like to know which you recommend I have this board and I find your advice invaluable. I would greatly appreciate your input on this.
@fridaynohw3529
@fridaynohw3529 2 жыл бұрын
Returned my X670E Hero and bought a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX. Very glad I made that choice. Unless you need the optical port, this motherboard is quite pointless in at least 2 years. But I wonder what you can get with the same money 2 years later. ROG Extreme isn’t about whether you are on a budget. In fact, in my personal opinion, anything above Apex I think suffers an significant diminishing return.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 2 жыл бұрын
What people often forget is that these expensive motherboards often OC ram exceptionally well
@smiley3012
@smiley3012 2 жыл бұрын
Jay's video's are always entertaining.
@suggestinggoblin292
@suggestinggoblin292 2 жыл бұрын
Got the same one, only the z690e! :) LOVING IT!!!
@danehale8637
@danehale8637 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the build with this
@corvus1970
@corvus1970 Жыл бұрын
A Strong-Bad reference? I'm totally here for that!
@jeremybarber2837
@jeremybarber2837 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty loaded when you look at all the accessories. I can see some easy tiers by dropping X or Y accessory/feature. Cool stuff!
@edwardshardware
@edwardshardware 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this on release day. Love it and hate it at the same time. It's wide enough that it blocked my grommets, so I decided to upgrade my case to accommodate. The PCI-e riser card is pointlessly large, and should half been half height. Beautiful board, but hurt the pocketbook.
@R3TR0ACTIV
@R3TR0ACTIV 2 жыл бұрын
I love all the features it offers and the look but the price. That is almost half my budget for my build and then a gfx cand that's more than some ppl's budget. Honestly one day I would love Jay to do a vid on like what is a good feature set to look for for people and have like the 1k build. 1.5k and 2 or 2.5k build
@axi6ne8us
@axi6ne8us 2 жыл бұрын
I already have a Crosshair VIII DARK HERO. Paying my rent to top pirority now. Probably in three years, I'll upgrade to this X670E.
@Efreeti
@Efreeti 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I shot for the moon with my $352 Asus X570 board. I don't think I'll ever spend that much on a motherboard again.
@Shocktaught1
@Shocktaught1 2 жыл бұрын
4:44 Yeah right buddy. That’s a Cyberpunkian harmonica. 😂
@Unamatrix01
@Unamatrix01 2 жыл бұрын
I think that price point is for a specific use case scenario. I however, always purchase high-end motherboards from Asus ROG for my systems, especially in the Intel HEDT range that last multiple generations.
@FirstFreedom
@FirstFreedom Жыл бұрын
This is true, you get what you pay for.
@Kolokotrones
@Kolokotrones 2 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note, the genz 2 car is only pcie 5 on one side, the other is pcie4
@Shrek765
@Shrek765 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Jay!
@HardyOh
@HardyOh 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you providing us an opportunity to see a $1000 motherboard that 99% won't ever consider or even see in real life.
@NathanMillerVisuals
@NathanMillerVisuals 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I went with the Zenith II Extreme for my Threadripper station because of the DIMM.2. It wasn't a selling point for me when I bought it. But I was thankful to have it a year later when my laptop wasn't being used anymore and a 2TB m.2 I could take out and use in my desktop. That drive replaced my 10 year old 3TB Seagate Barracuda as my games drive.
@alexgifford5895
@alexgifford5895 2 жыл бұрын
This board looks sick, I love overkill stuff. Also, I think there's another m.2 slot right underneath the CPU that you missed, so it looks like you can fit 6 m.2 drives, which is just insane. Killer video as usual, Jay; can't wait to see the personal rig update.
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 2 жыл бұрын
And those who put 6 2TB M.2s on the MB will soon replace them with 6 4TB ones. An't money nice to have and even better to spend.
@ericjbowman1708
@ericjbowman1708 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly recommend an anti-static wrist strap. Yes, you're using an anti-static pad, but when you're pulling stuff out of the box and removing it from the bags, where's your static protection?
@shinyhaseo
@shinyhaseo 2 жыл бұрын
I was building a new PC this month. I was sock, when I'm seeing the price for AM5 motherboard. I have now a ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI for €340. I'm happy with that.
@brianhitch360
@brianhitch360 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect a Strong Bad reference today. 👍
@bmgjet
@bmgjet 2 жыл бұрын
This is the board I would of gotten. But a few week before hand I got scammed by Asus support, they charged me $900 to just fail to repair my PG27uq. Then blamed it on the firmware update I did 2 years before hand saying that caused the FPGA to fail in it. I pulled it apart myself and fixed it in half a hour since it was just cracked soldering on the SMD fuses. So I got the Gigabyte Aorus x670e xtreme instead and will never buy Asus again.
@GenoBlast1717
@GenoBlast1717 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the Strongbad reference 👌
@matthewthompson9753
@matthewthompson9753 2 жыл бұрын
Actually just bought this board yesterday Jan 11th. glad i saw this vid.
@lukesanchez7415
@lukesanchez7415 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video building on this moon. It’s been a minute since we got a spectacular build video jay!
@sumin889
@sumin889 2 жыл бұрын
Love this board and up to now, there are no other company that comes close to what ASUS made with ROG X670E CROSSHAIR EXTREME !!!!
@hyg71886
@hyg71886 2 жыл бұрын
I have this board with a 5950x and I love it. Best board I’ve ever had.
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 5 ай бұрын
no way... 5950X is AM4 chipset, this is AM5 chipset
@hyg71886
@hyg71886 5 ай бұрын
@@joMan1060 ohh your right it’s the 570 my bad was that amount though great board. Had to check my order history
@AgentTaft
@AgentTaft 2 жыл бұрын
Those heat sinks made me immediately recall the opening to bladerunner
@WoodakaDiddy
@WoodakaDiddy 3 ай бұрын
I got this motherboard used on ebay about two years ago for $500
@user-gq3eq5bf9t
@user-gq3eq5bf9t Ай бұрын
Cool
@SimpleStaple
@SimpleStaple 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the X790. Love it.
@Fearmylogic
@Fearmylogic 2 жыл бұрын
I have this MOBO. I went full tilt on my new AM5 build. This Mobo, 7950X CPU, RTX 4090, Coolermaster HAF 700 Evo. Yeah, I could have saved a few hundred bucks on the MOBO and Case. But fuck it, I only rebuild my system once every 4 - 5 years. In the end, it only comes out to be about $1k/year. Which in terms of hobbies, is fairly cheap. I'm happy with my purchase and setup. And I may upgrade the CPU if AMD releases a 3D-Vcache version of the 7950x or 7900x, and then sell the current 7950x for a few hundred bucks cheaper than MSRP. Why? Because I can, and I want to.
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