This is what's most exciting - Apple TV 4K (2021) and Siri Remote Review

[@dannyanderson6677]

The production value of this channel is insane, it's documentary level.

[@ConorORegan]

It’s fantastic

[@lipidsled]

It's LMG lol, it's supposed to be this good!

[@ConorORegan]

@@lipidsled that’s very true but I feel like this channel has differentiated itself by its production values

[@TomokoJinx]

Fr I don't even plan to buy anything he's talking about it's just fun to watch

[@i.lostblur]

what do you mean by production values specifically? could you elaborate?

[@mini-_]

Now I understand why it's called a TV remote. It's always in some remote place, nowhere to be found!

[@Micwong025]

Hahahhaaha

[@stevenlee5164]

lmao remote

[@marc-alexandrelaroche6632]

GIMP lol

[@f1re_onehit621]

They should build AirTags into those remotes.

[@HooverM75]

I would fully agree with that for that price...

[@BakersTaste]

For the price? uh, yeah. If you've got a remote on your Apple ID, you can make it chirp from your phone. why not? ...before apple starts selling cases for the remote with airtag holders lol

[@scottyhehe5758]

U1 chip

[@WellFedProductions]

Why?

[@Shadowninja1200]

@@BakersTaste "If you've got a remote on your Apple ID, you can make it chirp from your phone. why not?" I honestly thought he was going to show off something like that with the remote with the way the intro started

[@ansonx10]

Hey that's cool. I didn't realize the original remote still had a use.

[@WalterMan]

Then how come people didn’t buy it instead? Or the second Gen remote? (People seemed to hate the 3rd/4th Gen) so I really wonder way people didn’t buy the 2nd or first Gen) I got a brand new first gen for $7 🤔

[@Butterbean32]

Tfw I still have a first gen remote kicking around, now I have a reason to not feel bad about keeping it lol

[@colinpye1430]

You can also add other third-party remotes, setting up the buttons to do whatever you want. It’s not quite flexible enough to reuse the Boxie Box keyboard remote as a keyboard, but that old VCR remote you found in the coach cushions is useful again.

[@maybedonn]

Honestly, the one thing I'm angry about is that they removed the accelerometer/gyroscope. Emulating a pointer with an accelerometer and gyroscope works *remarkably* well. Nintendo uses it for Wii games on the Switch that need a pointer, Sony uses it for the PS4 keyboard and I think some high end TVs also use it for keyboards. The reason the Wii was a hit is that the interface was dead simple. Point and click on your TV. My grandma could probably figure it out. It was the perfect TV interface imo and with the clunky sensor bar no longer being a requirement, I'm miffed as to why it's not more common.

[@Omikronik]

LG oled tv's have a remote like that and it makes such a difference using things like youtube or the web browser

[@therodyman700]

@@Omikronik True, it work so wel that when i sit it upright on the table it sometimes triggers it on the tv

[@shiskeyoffles]

I have a LeTV and that's the favourite thing about remote for me

[@andrew-71]

We have Samsung TV that has this feature and it’s amazing

[@utubekullanicisi]

They removed it because before this new remote the main reason Apple included those sensors in the remote is so that you could play Apple TV games with it, which I’d say didn’t work very well. Now the TV remote will function as a TV remote only because Apple is supposedly working on a gaming controller, and there will be a “Gaming focused” Apple event in October.

[@mcmudkipp]

I love how you were super generous with the pricing, 2$ for a couple of expected buttons on a remote and still wound up short. Still probably worth the money if you have the last gen monstrosity though.

[@piyh3962]

Or you could buy a 4k Google tv with Chromecast and come out $10 ahead

[@Norweeg]

@@piyh3962 The appeal to this for me is the Apple AppStore though. My family enjoys the games on Apple Arcade. Also, Plex is an absolute beast on the AppleTV. It plays a ton of media without the server having to transcode anything.

[@herranton]

@@piyh3962 it is pretty sad google can build an entire streaming device for the price of an apple remote. I'm pretty much on the verge of giving up on my apple tv 4k. Especially now that it isn't the only Dolby vision/Atmos streaming device for d+. The old remote was literally the only thing good about it. And go figure, most apple people hated it...

[@salmiakki5638]

It a little short of gyroscope and accelerometer and an UWB sensor for integrated airtags functionalities. *Expecially* for 60$

[@jonathanstein3559]

@@Norweeg plex not needing to transcode on apple is because of a Plex decision. Internally Plex uses mpv on iOS and on desktop devices, on android it uses Exoplayer. Why the difference? Because Plex is a bad company and keeps making excuses. mpv is indeed available on android. Exoplayer is a worse player than mpv and isn't meant to be used for the kind of content Plex is meant to do, but Plex devs care more about money on a "Plex Arcade" subscription than fixing usability that's been broken for years.

[@sejoki1]

Unfortunately, no amount of updates and features to the remote can make the KZbin app suck less.

[@chuuisinsane]

i miss the old one. still sucked in some places but it didn't do that weird overlapping text glitch

[@Norweeg]

That’s on Google though.

[@herranton]

@@Norweeg Is it? Or is it politics between the two companies? Because that sounds more likely.

[@impendio]

this.

[@sejoki1]

@@Norweeg I know, but I’m still partially blaming Apple for letting them even use a non-standard and broken video player.

[@ArashiKageTaro]

This dude is the perfect host for Mac Address! LMG knows how to hire talent.

[@NateDawg0007]

Why didn't they add their UWB chip to make it work with find my? Especially if they are charging 60$ for it. That feature alone would make it a compelling upgrade, especially for those with kids

[@malfaroangel3896]

I think adding that in would increase the price from $60 to $100. Also personally I think Apple is being extremely careful what will have have Airtag technology put into, so they can up charge down the line

[@nitinanku]

@@malfaroangel3896 An airtag on its own is only 30 bucks, makes no sense the price would increase by 40

[@malfaroangel3896]

@@nitinanku Lol 😂 are you not taking into account the additional steps to put it in the remote aka additional labor and more assembly time. They won’t just get an Airtag and tape it to the back. They would have to rework the internals to put the actual chip inside

[@jonoc5]

@@malfaroangel3896 why are you going so hard to defend apple making an entirely baffling design decision?

[@samuelmanny6231]

Just buy airtag and sticker pad for airtag and put one at the back of remote where you hold the remote so it also helps you in the dark which way to hold the remote

[@therealsharat]

"How cool is that" at the end Loved it 👌

[@Peter-Sorial]

I just automatically played in my head “but before that a word from our sponsor…” only to find there’s none :(

[@TheHammerGuy94]

Not yet.... Because jonathan hasnt made one yet for the channel.

[@abhishekparadkar7826]

It's unbelievable that this channel is a part of LMG! The production quality is just so much more...professional? Distinct? Somber? Idk its just super high quality and I love it

[@lucase6407]

Actually the Siri Remote (old one) was great for old recievers. As long as you have the old remote, it can record the old remote and play it back. Probably on the new one too

[@hughlilly]

Yep, either the amp/receiver this guy was trying to pair the old remote with is ancient, or he simply didn’t try at all. This review is terrible. There’s virtually nothing wrong with the old remote, and the new one is totally bloated. I could refute almost every one of his points but the silliest addition is the power button. You can simply turn your TV off by putting the Apple TV to sleep (long press the tv button)!

[@iancfyroxas]

I feel like the Mac Channel has higher quality than the LTT channel. What?

[@dftknight]

He probably has more time to write and film. In the behind the scenes look at LTT their production schedules are rushed.

[@iurigrang]

I wouldn’t say better, but the pacing is def less frantic. I think this resembles a lot more anything we would see on the big screen, while LTT and the other LMG channels are directed and written in a distinctly youtube way.

[@MrSam1er]

Well, way less videos, so they can put more time in each one

[@metallurgico]

@@MrSam1er some LTT videos take even months to complete...

[@herewestand]

dunno about higher quality but this feels more hyper focused than LTT's latest videos which may(?) just produce better videos, what i mean is, this video focused only on the design of the remote and the control scheme, not the tech behind it, or even the device its suppose to control (apple tv, bionic chip, apple tv ui, etc). vs this week's projector video that also had the 8k screen, them building the mounting for the projector, linus's general goofiness, and the mention of the 30k oled tv they have the screen sitting next to. hyper focused content vs a ton of stuff happening. neither are good or bad its just different styles. i.e a poet vs a book author, 50 lines of carefully chosen words, or 2000 lines of details. both have their benefits

[@Mergatroid]

I actually liked the old remote with my Apple TV 3rd gen, never had any issues with it. Everything on it worked flawlessly and I don't like the new design quite as much in some ways. I mainly miss the touchpad with the new design. The round one isn't the same and I don't see it as an improvement aside from being able to jog with it.

[@Aidanptrs]

Same

[@YourMJK]

I don't know about the d-pad + small touch area. Scrolling through a long list with the old remote is really satisfying, fast AND precise, especially thanks to the large vertical touch area. It makes finding a movie in a alphabetically sorted list (e.g. in Infuse) really easy.

[@kbhasi]

(3:55) I believe the reason why it was labelled as a "menu" button to begin with was because that was what the back button was labelled as on iPods, pressing once would go back, and holding down the button took the user all the way back to the main "iPod" menu.

[@arnavodkaa]

This is why I love this channel. He actually uses Apple stuff every single day.

[@TinyMiniStealth]

I like the idea of putting dollar values on the features. Good stuff, keep it up!

[@daltonmojica]

Agree, it’s a very innovative and on-brand addition to MA videos and has lots of (also humour) potential in other product reviews.

[@MacGecko86]

Agreed with the Magic Mouse charge port placement.

[@scj643]

I like the swipe gestures

[@BetterWithKinect]

I'm amazed at how glossed over the e-arc feature on the new apple tv 4k is. That actually just gave such an upgrade to homepod owners

[@egeali8191]

What a visually appealing video. Bravo to the production team

[@michaelpopp4419]

The ending was awesome, total burn to the magic mouse!

[@DetroitTintStudio]

I remember the original apple TV remote, it's not that far off lol they merged the 2 remotes

[@daryl3701]

Thank you for the tip on how to do the wheel spin thru the content I couldn't figure that out

[@lakeyboy1000]

Really liking how this channel will film in random locations compared to other LMG videos which pretty much have 1 set per channel. Very refreshing. (On a side note I did watch the BTS video with James so I realise how much effort goes into getting each video out)

[@LuizFeReis]

"De férias com o ex" as the first recommendation there 😂😂😂

[@du-ke]

Brazil always have a way to fit in any place aahhahaahahah

[@Danielfalcao100]

@@du-ke yeah I'm still trying to figure it out WHY hahahahahahah

[@Usith]

You can change the linear keyboard to a grid version in settings

[@TalesOfWar]

This is also where it really helps having an iPhone or something too, so you can use the keyboard on that instead. Entering text on any kind of remote sucks ass, regardless of who makes it.

[@aprilnya]

2:26 it's much thicker, and has a curved bottom

[@aditya_gupta]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@jqyhlmnp]

“It” :(

[@gennaro]

Honestly as a strictly mac user who's now a strictly anti mac user throughout the years, I appreciate and enjoy this content. Looking forward to the future of this channel!

[@glujaz]

About the remote, you could touch the sides of the touchpad to make it act like a D-Pad instead of doing gestures. Other thing, you can make the remote learn how to change volume. It works great with my old receiver ! ^^

[@Macusercom]

The best remote keyboard is the one from Magenta (T-Mobile): It features a QWERTY-like keyboard where you always select rows from left to right and you can select the letters by pressing up, center or down. So Q is up, A is the center and Y down and you move the selection from left to right.

[@asapmadison]

Thanks I’ve been thinking about this since they announced a new one!

[@huntereddy4014]

The old remote reminds me of the front on view of a dell desktop you’d see in almost any business a few years back.

[@ThatLemonPancake]

You forgot to include in new features that the new Apple TV 4K has Thread support now, much like the HomePod Mini.

[@TankerMan3000]

Which set is this filmed on in the LTT studio!

[@caidhg]

I don't get what everyone problem with the old remote was. I think it's great.

[@inlinecreation.official]

I really like old one than new..

[@rindoan]

I got the new AppleTV 4K after having had Roku and Fire in the past and I will never go back. Performance and looks is sooooo much better on the AppleTV.

[@JoSephGD]

I didn't hate the older Siri Remote, but this one just feels and looks a lot more sleek.

[@SanderEvers]

Agree, the old one was OK, the new one is better.

[@johnnyappleseed1150]

I live for these videos. And the fun little facts and snippets at the end are a great touch

[@infoalexandermeyer]

You can switch the horizontal keyboard to a multi row rectangle in the settings. First thing I do with an Apple TV.

[@AaronShenghao]

1:57 what do you mean? Of coarse I will ask my butlers to clean it for me

[@Evansmustard]

This channel honestly makes me want to get a Mac more

[@noenken]

There are already pretty good deals on used M1 mac minis, especially the base model. Try one. If it's not for you financial loss will be minimal.

[@Geoff_W]

I'd love to see a full setup/review of the apple smart home system, fwiw.

[@manstro0115]

Oohhh this introduction was great!

[@WesPerry]

With the learn signals function on the Apple TV, I would be shocked if you couldn’t get the old remote to control the volume on “that old receiver there” 🤔

[@edcgadgets-de]

I honestly like the black remote. I don’t have issues, other than the 10s forward/backwards click on the edges is not always recognized.

[@TechSpecsYT]

Me holding the old Siri remote whilst watching on an older Apple TV: 👁👄👁

[@bageldrone]

Man Jonathan's totally unique outlook of "everything apple does is great" is so refreshing...

[@wycliffe_ndiba]

This is obviously the fastest growing LMG channel. Question is, where does it rank in the fastest growing channel on KZbin

[@AL-lh2ht]

There are some suprisingly fast growing channels out there but I would imagion this would be in the top few hundred at least.

[@shakilsmasharf]

MA videos exist: People on every. one. of. them. : The production value of this channel is insane....

[@Spanky2k]

I really wish the 'back' functionality was better defined. In some apps, it'll take you back a step. In other apps, it'll kick you straight back to the main menu or the home screen.

[@ArchieGee]

Love these reviews! Production quality is insane

[@shabbir.akhtar]

This video was really chill and fun to watch

[@gonace]

The charging of the Magic Mouse makes me think about hospitals and intubation.

[@nonamer29]

The charging situation with the magic mouse deserves a video all on it's own....

[@TheAlmightyCharles]

I actually liked the touchpad on the old remote. I find it so much faster to swipe instead of clicking continuously.

[@JoeCastellon]

The new one still supports swiping.

[@KevinJohnMulligan]

$59 for the new remote And for 70 more you get the new Apple TV 😂

[@sheiber]

I missed the counter-argument for the 2:05 "didn't work with the av reciever". I was totally suprised, when I found out, I could FINALLY use just one small, little remote for everything.

[@stvn_____]

really felt the magic mouse hate at the end :D

[@colbey]

happy to see its not glass anymore. had the original atv touch remote and one night while setting my beer down on the table couldnt see where the remote was in the dark. i then was surprised by the "spiderweb" feature and little shards of glass everywhere :/

[@drift318]

This channel is slowly becoming a favorite of mine

[@kywarai]

I still love my "old" Siri Remote.

[@burgunbeerd]

Apple wants more than the price of a Chromecast just for a remote? And it doesn't even have an AIRTAG built in hahahahhaha

[@Nbj05]

why dont they just, make a damn tv

[@Emerson-wj9kr]

@Hooman Being it was a joke, because of the video that was made on real apple tvs

[@daltonmojica]

Apple probably can’t find a 70-inch, mass-producable panel that satisfies Retina/colour/contrast specifications. Especially since Apple making a TV automatically means millions in sales. I don’t think Samsung is ready to pick up that increase in demand.

[@d3lsl0w]

@@daltonmojica also, Apple doesn't want to sell a product that lasts more than a few years. It thrives off the upgrade cycle. I mean, Apple Car? I bet you it's gonna be lease only.

[@daltonmojica]

@@d3lsl0w I mean the Apple TV boxes we have right now last pretty long don’t ya think? And also Macs that tend to last longer and hold their value more than their Windows counterparts, and also iOS devices who get 3x-5x longer support than Android? Apple has no problems with product longevity. It’s just that they release every year with much marketing fanfare and userbase momentum, causing the masses to buy each year. As for the Apple car, making it basically a subscription service only would indeed suck, but it still leaves to be seen. I doubt this though, considering Apple is a hardware company with a focus on ownership and privacy. But who knows, it’s still years away at least.

[@dexter_ay]

it can't be powered by lightning cable

[@Mr.President]

I think the charging of the magic mouse through the bottom is made on purpose so you are forced to use it wirelessly, it is less cluttered on the desk, more minimalistic and looks good. many of us want a mouse with a cable, it doesn't look cool or minimalistic but we don't want to think about another charging device

[@wofi784]

I love how the solution was just going back to the old non-Siri remote design

[@handle_unknown]

Oh yeees, iPod scroll wheel, been wanting this for volume on my Samsung Qled TV for years!

[@joshualockett6912]

We use the old ATV 4K are one with a grip case witch solves most of the problems with losing it, and for the trackpad, it seems to work fine for everybody when the sensitivity is turned down. I personally don’t see the big fuss.

[@hanif72muhammad]

"You can clean it, but it's futile" Just like my sins

[@cosmiccuttlefish5765]

I am a proud user of the og apple remotes on my current Apple TV.

[@thisisboringfilmstudios8102]

Am i the only one that loved the old remote? The new one looks better though

[@annjrue]

Y'know, I really don't mind the old remote. It's kind of annoying with the whole upside-down thing, but I like the size, and the TouchPad is great if you turn the sensitivity up.

[@Hybrid225]

Got it in May really love it

[@AhmadNazirAfiq]

You can actually change the keyboard layout in the Apple TV settings.

[@eLindemann]

3:02 - Come to think of it, if Apple did the remote where the media controls were just the iPod's click wheel I think that would be great. I include scrolling through titles with that.

[@TraneFrancks]

I'm using my original circa 2007 Apple Remote with my mid 2012 MBP.

[@Passe1]

Apparently I’m the only one who likes the old remote 😂😅. Never had any of the mentioned problems

[@fracturedmind8124]

I honestly didn’t mind the old remote. It wasn’t great by any means, but it wasn’t bad. I’ve been considering getting the new one, but I’ll probably wait until my old one dies.

[@magikspastik9102]

Not so sure about how nice the charging idea is for a remote, but if it charges wireless thats amazing

[@rodefshalom]

I really want the new remote. I’m not gonna pay $60 for it, but if something happens to my current Siri remote, and I needed to buy the new one, I wouldn’t be tooooooo disappointed.

[@rocket7241]

My top tech channels are MKBHD, Flossy Carter, LTT, iJustine, Snazzy Labs and now I’m adding Mac Address to the list. Fantastic video that doesn’t overstay its welcome!

[@joechen7887]

air tags with the remote = no more missing remotes!

[@bylethmoskovits142]

You can actually change the keyboard from auto to grid so that should resolve your issue

[@Presleympofu]

I wasn't a fan of the silver when I first saw it but its quite convenient when you are looking for it in the dark

[@yakk0dotorg]

The new one also isn’t glass, so it won’t shatter when you drop it. Like I did the first night I had mine.

[@greebo7857]

I have absolutely no issue with the old Siri remote. It all sounds like an eliteish problem to me.

[@salmiakki5638]

It a little short of gyroscope and accelerometer and an UWB sensor for integrated airtags functionalities. *Expecially* for 60$

[@Kylefassbinderful]

I really like this guy. He’s better than that linus guy

[@minerskills]

tbh I actually like the touchpad of the old remote. And I never had the issue that the movie would stop once I pulled the remote out of my sofa. The fingerprints are pretty annoying but then thats about it.

[@JoeCastellon]

I still have the Apple TV HD and I currently have no reason to upgrade, as I don't yet have a 4K TV. My Apple TV Remote did find itself into the washing machine and the charging capability was destroyed, along with a couple of the buttons. I was still able to use it for most of its functionality while plugged, but it eventually fell one too many times and the track pad shattered to the point of not being able to use it anymore. Having that said, I'm glad Apple made this second version made of aluminum instead of glass, and that it made it backwards compatible. I did hate paying the 20$ Apple tax as 40$ was definitely the fair price, but I am enjoying the new remote on my old Apple TV. I don't play games on my Apple TV so I don't really miss the accelerometer/gyro.

[@Burssty]

I could get a game controller for $60. Apple wants us to pay $60 for a stick. lol

[@W.13th]

ATV remotes are just one more thing to break or lose. Still using the old App Store Remote app👌🏾but the Control Center one is super buggy af

[@jerrylegendman2544]

Not a fan of Apple products, but that video format is awesome.

[@regirockplays]

1) Tbh i don’t get why not having the mute button is so bad, if i need a moment to hear my surrindings I just pause, why would I just mute? muting means that while the audio is muted the show is still continuing and that once i’m finished i still have to rewind the part that I missed (maybe it’s cause I’m not american and don’t know how channels like abc or hbo max or hulu work but tbh I think that if they have a live feed and they work like live streams on twitch it means the entire format is faulty, not so much the remote) 2) You know what really bugs me? Apple want to make an ecosystem, to have things that work with each other, then why not put a mini speaker in the remote and give it “find my” integration for people who lose constantly their remote? It could work just like the airtag, if you lose your remote you make it ring or if you have an iphone 11 or newer you can see where it is, it would be useful, but no (as far as I have seen at least)

[@Jadiaz-ev9hm]

Mute buttons are nice if you can watch the show, pop on captions, but can't listen to it like having a sleeping baby, or when you're stuck on a work call or something. They do have advantages.

[@honeybeeanie]

I personally liked the old one. It was so slim and nice. Plus we never really used the remote in bright rooms so it never bothered me that it could get greasy

[@moshmoshpitpit]

Though I doubt you'll read this... please make a video on BetterTouchTool! You snuck that part about the original Apple Remote in at the end and it made me think about other uses for it. BTT came to mind.

[@arnaumj]

they should put an m1 in the apple tv

[@AL-lh2ht]

That would be overkill. Also they probably have a bunch of the old chips laying around to use.

[@arnaumj]

@@AL-lh2ht exactly lol an Apple TV that is 8K

[@dougc84]

Eh. I don't really mind the AppleTV gen 1 remote. I think it works fine. Annoyances will come with any device of this type. However, you also have the option of using the remote on your phone via control center, which is super easy, and you likely have your phone in your hand anyway. And, in my case, the AppleTV can be controlled with a Harmony remote. So, even if my remote is lost (which, I dunno, I guess my sofa isn't crappy and doesn't get stuff stuck in it, so I don't really have that issue), I still have the option to control it two other ways. And the hold to use the scroll wheel thing is dumb.