This is what's most exciting - Apple TV 4K (2021) and Siri Remote Review

[@dannyanderson6677]

The production value of this channel is insane, it's documentary level.

[@ConorORegan]

It’s fantastic

[@lipidsled]

It's LMG lol, it's supposed to be this good!

[@ConorORegan]

@@lipidsled that’s very true but I feel like this channel has differentiated itself by its production values

[@TomokoJinx]

Fr I don't even plan to buy anything he's talking about it's just fun to watch

[@i.lostblur]

what do you mean by production values specifically? could you elaborate?

[@mini-_]

Now I understand why it's called a TV remote. It's always in some remote place, nowhere to be found!

[@Micwong025]

Hahahhaaha

[@stevenlee5164]

lmao remote

[@marc-alexandrelaroche6632]

GIMP lol

[@f1re_onehit621]

They should build AirTags into those remotes.

[@HooverM75]

I would fully agree with that for that price...

[@BakersTaste]

For the price? uh, yeah. If you've got a remote on your Apple ID, you can make it chirp from your phone. why not? ...before apple starts selling cases for the remote with airtag holders lol

[@scottyhehe5758]

U1 chip

[@WellFedProductions]

Why?

[@Shadowninja1200]

@@BakersTaste "If you've got a remote on your Apple ID, you can make it chirp from your phone. why not?" I honestly thought he was going to show off something like that with the remote with the way the intro started

[@maybedonn]

Honestly, the one thing I'm angry about is that they removed the accelerometer/gyroscope. Emulating a pointer with an accelerometer and gyroscope works *remarkably* well. Nintendo uses it for Wii games on the Switch that need a pointer, Sony uses it for the PS4 keyboard and I think some high end TVs also use it for keyboards. The reason the Wii was a hit is that the interface was dead simple. Point and click on your TV. My grandma could probably figure it out. It was the perfect TV interface imo and with the clunky sensor bar no longer being a requirement, I'm miffed as to why it's not more common.

[@Omikronik]

LG oled tv's have a remote like that and it makes such a difference using things like youtube or the web browser

[@therodyman700]

@@Omikronik True, it work so wel that when i sit it upright on the table it sometimes triggers it on the tv

[@shiskeyoffles]

I have a LeTV and that's the favourite thing about remote for me

[@andrew-71]

We have Samsung TV that has this feature and it’s amazing

[@utubekullanicisi]

They removed it because before this new remote the main reason Apple included those sensors in the remote is so that you could play Apple TV games with it, which I’d say didn’t work very well. Now the TV remote will function as a TV remote only because Apple is supposedly working on a gaming controller, and there will be a “Gaming focused” Apple event in October.

[@ansonx10]

Hey that's cool. I didn't realize the original remote still had a use.

[@WalterMan]

Then how come people didn’t buy it instead? Or the second Gen remote? (People seemed to hate the 3rd/4th Gen) so I really wonder way people didn’t buy the 2nd or first Gen) I got a brand new first gen for $7 🤔

[@Butterbean32]

Tfw I still have a first gen remote kicking around, now I have a reason to not feel bad about keeping it lol

[@colinpye1430]

You can also add other third-party remotes, setting up the buttons to do whatever you want. It’s not quite flexible enough to reuse the Boxie Box keyboard remote as a keyboard, but that old VCR remote you found in the coach cushions is useful again.

[@sejoki1]

Unfortunately, no amount of updates and features to the remote can make the KZbin app suck less.

[@chuuisinsane]

i miss the old one. still sucked in some places but it didn't do that weird overlapping text glitch

[@Norweeg]

That’s on Google though.

[@herranton]

@@Norweeg Is it? Or is it politics between the two companies? Because that sounds more likely.

[@impendio]

this.

[@sejoki1]

@@Norweeg I know, but I’m still partially blaming Apple for letting them even use a non-standard and broken video player.

[@mcmudkipp]

I love how you were super generous with the pricing, 2$ for a couple of expected buttons on a remote and still wound up short. Still probably worth the money if you have the last gen monstrosity though.

[@piyh3962]

Or you could buy a 4k Google tv with Chromecast and come out $10 ahead

[@Norweeg]

@@piyh3962 The appeal to this for me is the Apple AppStore though. My family enjoys the games on Apple Arcade. Also, Plex is an absolute beast on the AppleTV. It plays a ton of media without the server having to transcode anything.

[@herranton]

@@piyh3962 it is pretty sad google can build an entire streaming device for the price of an apple remote. I'm pretty much on the verge of giving up on my apple tv 4k. Especially now that it isn't the only Dolby vision/Atmos streaming device for d+. The old remote was literally the only thing good about it. And go figure, most apple people hated it...

[@salmiakki5638]

It a little short of gyroscope and accelerometer and an UWB sensor for integrated airtags functionalities. *Expecially* for 60$

[@jonathanstein3559]

@@Norweeg plex not needing to transcode on apple is because of a Plex decision. Internally Plex uses mpv on iOS and on desktop devices, on android it uses Exoplayer. Why the difference? Because Plex is a bad company and keeps making excuses. mpv is indeed available on android. Exoplayer is a worse player than mpv and isn't meant to be used for the kind of content Plex is meant to do, but Plex devs care more about money on a "Plex Arcade" subscription than fixing usability that's been broken for years.

[@NateDawg0007]

Why didn't they add their UWB chip to make it work with find my? Especially if they are charging 60$ for it. That feature alone would make it a compelling upgrade, especially for those with kids

[@malfaroangel3896]

I think adding that in would increase the price from $60 to $100. Also personally I think Apple is being extremely careful what will have have Airtag technology put into, so they can up charge down the line

[@nitinanku]

@@malfaroangel3896 An airtag on its own is only 30 bucks, makes no sense the price would increase by 40

[@malfaroangel3896]

@@nitinanku Lol 😂 are you not taking into account the additional steps to put it in the remote aka additional labor and more assembly time. They won’t just get an Airtag and tape it to the back. They would have to rework the internals to put the actual chip inside

[@jonoc5]

@@malfaroangel3896 why are you going so hard to defend apple making an entirely baffling design decision?

[@samuelmanny6231]

Just buy airtag and sticker pad for airtag and put one at the back of remote where you hold the remote so it also helps you in the dark which way to hold the remote

[@abhishekparadkar7826]

It's unbelievable that this channel is a part of LMG! The production quality is just so much more...professional? Distinct? Somber? Idk its just super high quality and I love it

[@ArashiKageTaro]

This dude is the perfect host for Mac Address! LMG knows how to hire talent.

[@lucase6407]

Actually the Siri Remote (old one) was great for old recievers. As long as you have the old remote, it can record the old remote and play it back. Probably on the new one too

[@hughlilly]

Yep, either the amp/receiver this guy was trying to pair the old remote with is ancient, or he simply didn’t try at all. This review is terrible. There’s virtually nothing wrong with the old remote, and the new one is totally bloated. I could refute almost every one of his points but the silliest addition is the power button. You can simply turn your TV off by putting the Apple TV to sleep (long press the tv button)!

[@Peter-Sorial]

I just automatically played in my head “but before that a word from our sponsor…” only to find there’s none :(

[@TheHammerGuy94]

Not yet.... Because jonathan hasnt made one yet for the channel.

[@YourMJK]

I don't know about the d-pad + small touch area. Scrolling through a long list with the old remote is really satisfying, fast AND precise, especially thanks to the large vertical touch area. It makes finding a movie in a alphabetically sorted list (e.g. in Infuse) really easy.

[@kbhasi]

(3:55) I believe the reason why it was labelled as a "menu" button to begin with was because that was what the back button was labelled as on iPods, pressing once would go back, and holding down the button took the user all the way back to the main "iPod" menu.

[@arnavodkaa]

This is why I love this channel. He actually uses Apple stuff every single day.

[@therealsharat]

"How cool is that" at the end Loved it 👌

[@TankerMan3000]

Which set is this filmed on in the LTT studio!

[@kalleguld]

0:34 Why does the remote come with all the AppleTV models? Isn't one AppleTV enough?

[@Mergatroid]

I actually liked the old remote with my Apple TV 3rd gen, never had any issues with it. Everything on it worked flawlessly and I don't like the new design quite as much in some ways. I mainly miss the touchpad with the new design. The round one isn't the same and I don't see it as an improvement aside from being able to jog with it.

[@Aidanptrs]

Same

[@ThatLemonPancake]

You forgot to include in new features that the new Apple TV 4K has Thread support now, much like the HomePod Mini.

[@BetterWithKinect]

I'm amazed at how glossed over the e-arc feature on the new apple tv 4k is. That actually just gave such an upgrade to homepod owners

[@DetroitTintStudio]

I remember the original apple TV remote, it's not that far off lol they merged the 2 remotes

[@SquintyGears]

Why is there storage on the apple tv? How is it a selling point to pay for more? The question becomes what do people actually download to it??? It's a box for casting your iphone ipad or mac computer and watching streaming services. What's the storage for?

[@SylvieTheBagel]

Wait so... The remote still can't wireless charge?

[@Usith]

You can change the linear keyboard to a grid version in settings

[@TalesOfWar]

This is also where it really helps having an iPhone or something too, so you can use the keyboard on that instead. Entering text on any kind of remote sucks ass, regardless of who makes it.

[@josephbhumphrey]

So what does the Apple box do at ~$180-200 that something like a $40 Roku or FireStick doesn’t?

[@yakk0dotorg]

The new one also isn’t glass, so it won’t shatter when you drop it. Like I did the first night I had mine.

[@scj643]

I like the swipe gestures

[@infoalexandermeyer]

You can switch the horizontal keyboard to a multi row rectangle in the settings. First thing I do with an Apple TV.

[@nicholaslandolina]

so you can use the new remote on the old box? I like, but why?

[@joshualockett6912]

We use the old ATV 4K are one with a grip case witch solves most of the problems with losing it, and for the trackpad, it seems to work fine for everybody when the sensitivity is turned down. I personally don’t see the big fuss.

[@pgplaysvidya]

do people actually lose the remote such that you need it to beep? I have two of these things and I just put the controller on a table/stand somewhere If you're the type to just leave the remote on the couch..maybe put it on the ground?

[@tristancurrier]

Does the power button put the Frame in art mode or just off?

[@gennaro]

Honestly as a strictly mac user who's now a strictly anti mac user throughout the years, I appreciate and enjoy this content. Looking forward to the future of this channel!

[@dgcbdgcb]

What’s the song that starts at 2:16

[@WesPerry]

With the learn signals function on the Apple TV, I would be shocked if you couldn’t get the old remote to control the volume on “that old receiver there” 🤔

[@deltadom33]

It does not link to findmy which they introduced in the same presentation Like the corkboard on the b roll shots as that refers to the skeumorphic design Apple TV is overly expensive compared to the compitition What I don't understand is that more hardware is not ubiquitous such as the faceid cameras or lidar sensors

[@DenisMardan]

Can I use AirPods Pro Iwith the earc function ? And how good are HomePod mini setup compared to a 300-400 buck soundbar with atoms support

[@sheiber]

I missed the counter-argument for the 2:05 "didn't work with the av reciever". I was totally suprised, when I found out, I could FINALLY use just one small, little remote for everything.

[@goobydntfear]

can someone explain to me what the point of the apple tv, or similar smarttv boxes are? when my tv has already a native app for apple tv, why would i buy this? what advantages do i get?

[@Geoff_W]

I'd love to see a full setup/review of the apple smart home system, fwiw.

[@bageldrone]

Man Jonathan's totally unique outlook of "everything apple does is great" is so refreshing...

[@huntereddy4014]

The old remote reminds me of the front on view of a dell desktop you’d see in almost any business a few years back.

[@AhmadNazirAfiq]

You can actually change the keyboard layout in the Apple TV settings.

[@MacGecko86]

Agreed with the Magic Mouse charge port placement.

[@cristianmoore1996]

1:34 Not really. Change the sensitivity. On the fastest mode, it’s hard to control for me because it scrolls so fast.

[@egeali8191]

What a visually appealing video. Bravo to the production team

[@Spanky2k]

I really wish the 'back' functionality was better defined. In some apps, it'll take you back a step. In other apps, it'll kick you straight back to the main menu or the home screen.

[@nonamer29]

The charging situation with the magic mouse deserves a video all on it's own....

[@Gurj101]

The non-removable charging battery is not common right. I hopr noone else copies this trend of charging remotes already too many things to charge.

[@lakeyboy1000]

Really liking how this channel will film in random locations compared to other LMG videos which pretty much have 1 set per channel. Very refreshing. (On a side note I did watch the BTS video with James so I realise how much effort goes into getting each video out)

[@edcgadgets-de]

I honestly like the black remote. I don’t have issues, other than the 10s forward/backwards click on the edges is not always recognized.

[@daryl3701]

Thank you for the tip on how to do the wheel spin thru the content I couldn't figure that out

[@liambonnyai1340]

Does it have a find my remote feature

[@salmiakki5638]

It a little short of gyroscope and accelerometer and an UWB sensor for integrated airtags functionalities. *Expecially* for 60$

[@noenken]

Would have been nice to mention Thread support on the new AppleTV since it is the basis for lots of homekit stuff.

[@bylethmoskovits142]

You can actually change the keyboard from auto to grid so that should resolve your issue

[@wofi784]

I love how the solution was just going back to the old non-Siri remote design

[@c0d3m0nky]

That curve isn't gonna do shit to avoid slipping between cushions. I have the Shield TV with it's triangular prism remote and it always manages to burrow into the couch

[@dougc84]

Eh. I don't really mind the AppleTV gen 1 remote. I think it works fine. Annoyances will come with any device of this type. However, you also have the option of using the remote on your phone via control center, which is super easy, and you likely have your phone in your hand anyway. And, in my case, the AppleTV can be controlled with a Harmony remote. So, even if my remote is lost (which, I dunno, I guess my sofa isn't crappy and doesn't get stuff stuck in it, so I don't really have that issue), I still have the option to control it two other ways. And the hold to use the scroll wheel thing is dumb.

[@Macusercom]

The best remote keyboard is the one from Magenta (T-Mobile): It features a QWERTY-like keyboard where you always select rows from left to right and you can select the letters by pressing up, center or down. So Q is up, A is the center and Y down and you move the selection from left to right.

[@eLindemann]

3:02 - Come to think of it, if Apple did the remote where the media controls were just the iPod's click wheel I think that would be great. I include scrolling through titles with that.

[@weeraanmelden]

The standard Hd model is not for us, it’s for enterprise. Since 90% of Corp laptops still do HD and a PPTX is mostly a 4:3 kept in an email.

[@ilparola]

How can i see the new remote on a silver sofa?

[@drift318]

This channel is slowly becoming a favorite of mine

[@marshthefoxcat]

The Magic Mouse 2 is also about form over factor but it makes quite some sense. Using the iMac ensures that you do not find messy cables on your desk. If the Magic Mouse were to be wired, then it adds a wire to your desk, which is not aesthetic.

[@BLX187]

How do I get all freeview channels on Apple TV?

[@HadiNuf]

I don't get the arbitrary prices that were stuck to the improvements.

[@Sanjuro2112]

now I'm trying to find that old white remote...

[@BlueFlash25]

Even if you are not apple fan you have to appreciate the great work and energy this channel started with, keep up good work guys!

[@glujaz]

About the remote, you could touch the sides of the touchpad to make it act like a D-Pad instead of doing gestures. Other thing, you can make the remote learn how to change volume. It works great with my old receiver ! ^^

[@noonenick6420]

okay i feel like a idiot for asking this but my lg tv came with the web os or something preinstalled and it has apple tv built in so will the apple tv have any value for me does this hardware offer any other expirence or they both the same?

[@TinyMiniStealth]

I like the idea of putting dollar values on the features. Good stuff, keep it up!

[@daltonmojica]

Agree, it’s a very innovative and on-brand addition to MA videos and has lots of (also humour) potential in other product reviews.

[@jlj945]

I never had an issue with my Siri remote. Though the new one does look better. Still no wireless charging in it… I added that to mine with a ghetto lightning to qi pad adapter

[@reddcube]

Mute button is useless. Just press the volume up and down at the same time to toggle mute, like on the nvidia shield.

[@AriaDaioh]

where are these recorded? at his Home?

[@ArchieGee]

Love these reviews! Production quality is insane

[@kurianmathew3299]

Why white gloves specifically?.

[@enzojacobsen4349]

how about a normal-sized remote?

[@ferna182]

the magic mouse's charging port is really the least of its issues. I still don't understand how anybody can use that thing. It's annoying to grab, it's annoying to move around, the hand position for gestures is very awkward... I'd take a regular trackpad any day of the week over that... Or a regular mouse.

[@rickywinterborn]

is it just me or does mac address have better production than LTT...

[@annjrue]

Y'know, I really don't mind the old remote. It's kind of annoying with the whole upside-down thing, but I like the size, and the TouchPad is great if you turn the sensitivity up.

[@TraneFrancks]

I'm using my original circa 2007 Apple Remote with my mid 2012 MBP.

[@elmerken9640]

Can You talk about Apple Music new audio systems

[@WillPolley]

Another nice thing is that you can control the factory reset screen with the new remote. Worth $20 (non-siri remote required previously), brings your total to $60.

[@Imbauttakum]

You have to buy a new Apple TV to use the remote, The remotes are forward compatible not backwards

[@JoSephGD]

I didn't hate the older Siri Remote, but this one just feels and looks a lot more sleek.

[@SanderEvers]

Agree, the old one was OK, the new one is better.

[@extraverage]

3:15 ? Seriously? This is way too complicated compared to the previous one :(

[@Mr.President]

I think the charging of the magic mouse through the bottom is made on purpose so you are forced to use it wirelessly, it is less cluttered on the desk, more minimalistic and looks good. many of us want a mouse with a cable, it doesn't look cool or minimalistic but we don't want to think about another charging device

[@calcifer9098]

I don’t get what’s wrong with the Lightning charging? He never says why it’s a problem

[@foxonboard1]

It should be possible to charge the mouse and remote with a ai charger.. i mean qi mousepad would be great

[@chien-kaikevinma9588]

Nice topic, but bad explanations. 1. Not everyone has a "black" sofa. 2. How do you estimate the price of each improvement?

[@colbey]

happy to see its not glass anymore. had the original atv touch remote and one night while setting my beer down on the table couldnt see where the remote was in the dark. i then was surprised by the "spiderweb" feature and little shards of glass everywhere :/

[@AmeanAbdelfattah]

The remote is still too small. Why don't they just put a built in pager on the Apple TV box to find the remote?

[@rocket7241]

My top tech channels are MKBHD, Flossy Carter, LTT, iJustine, Snazzy Labs and now I’m adding Mac Address to the list. Fantastic video that doesn’t overstay its welcome!

[@DaivG]

Still have my original remote from my Front Row MBP. Sure would be nice for Apple to integrate Apple TV functionality into the new lineup and allow it to work with the new remote how Front Row used to.

[@TheAlmightyCharles]

I actually liked the touchpad on the old remote. I find it so much faster to swipe instead of clicking continuously.

[@JoeCastellon]

The new one still supports swiping.

[@LoganLore]

I hate the new remote. I recently upgraded from a 3ʳᵈ gen, (I waited for this one before upgrading.) No one is mentioning the lack of accelerameter, meaning there are tons of games that can't be played. The new touch pad, moved Siri button, and mute button mean nothing to me. I bought 2 old Siri remote on eBay so I could play games like Real Racing 3 using a Siri remote. Can someone please mention this?? I've seen a bunch of reviews on the new  TV and no one has mentioned this. Why is that? I'm worried no one is actually using the new device

[@TechSpecsYT]

Me holding the old Siri remote whilst watching on an older Apple TV: 👁👄👁

[@johnnyappleseed1150]

I live for these videos. And the fun little facts and snippets at the end are a great touch