This is why Autocockers are making a comeback

This is a FreeFlow Clutch autococker, in the classic full-body length.
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I borrowed this to show off. That crazy anodizing is the first thing that stands out. Arc Anodizing did anodizing; a neat part about ordering a FreeFlow is you get to pick the anodizing and the anodizer.
The FreeFlow cockers are the first paintball guns to ship with new Dye autococker parts, the DFF-20 3-Way, DFF-20 low-pressure regulator, DFF-20 Hyper Regulator, DFF-20 LokDwn Feedneck, and the Clutch uses the classic FreeFlow SMC ram.
Dye used to make autococker parts, and they sucked. Back in 2003, Dye was making complete autocockers are parts. They looked cool, but they were pretty bad, but they were cheaply made and didn't perform very well. The new Dye DFF-20 parts are better in every way; they are more adjustable, simpler to adjust, and just built better.
That doesn't mean they are perfect, though. I feel that some manufactures like Inception Designs or Palmers make better and higher autococker quality parts.
Overall the Clutch is an excellent high-end autococker. It shoots great, I'm a fan of the trigger frame and oversized trigger shoes, trigger frame and body, and very high quality. Everything is great; maybe just the Dye parts are a bit lacking.
Eric also opted to stick with the standard barrel option, the Dye UL-S Barrel Kit.
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#paintball

[@Mr1973rusty]

All the OG guys know this is the most iconic marker EVER made hands down. I love all things paintball but the autococker to me has stood the test of time like no other maker !! A work of art indeed..

[@Msantor1605]

*Laughs in SFL*

[@billhicks3415]

I've come to regret selling my Black Magic...

[@davideriksen2434]

my splash anodized micromag is pretty cool got it from badboy toys in lansing when i was a teen

[@AaaaandYerDhem]

Loved the Autocockers. Automags, Angels, Boblong......ohhhh the days

[@chrisf247]

As an old player from the 90s that got recommended this video, it blows my mind to see people talking about cockers again! They are truly awesome though, I still regret trading my original stock right feed 99.

[@RohxAirsoft]

Legit bro.... like dudes wearing a JT flex 7 mask and rocking an Autococker....like are we back in 1998? 😆

[@ablazetrogdormkii2647]

I will forever love the sound of an autococker firing.

[@Floodbait_117]

Yup love both automags and autococker they both are amazing markers

[@ablazetrogdormkii2647]

@@Floodbait_117 I remember when it was Team autococker vs Team Automag. But I agree they were both good. I just liked the cocker more.

[@corythomas4427]

@@Floodbait_117 Me too!

[@praetorxian]

Love'd AC;s. Steampunk designs....

[@Docfirepaintball]

Thanks Brad for the props

[@robfisher6447]

Space guns are lighter, more reliable, more ergonomic. But no soul, like a well timed and running cocker. Nothing is more satisfying than shooting out a space gun with a mech.

[@pollackrocket]

Spoken like the gospel!!!

[@gyulatakacs1824]

I have an all original Autococker. It still works.

[@tdotvy4579]

My buddy and I had our first speed ball tournament. I had a luxe and my buddy had an auto cocker. He literally gained everyone’s respect for coming out with an auto cocker and we were the favorite newbie’s/under dogs. I had no idea autocockers were so beloved

[@ZombieLincoln666]

Paintball guns were so much more fun back in the day. Everyone had mods and aftermarket parts. Autocockers were the best for tinkering but also a pain in the ass

[@salesparza3876]

No batteries. Replaced springs and o rings. My cocker was the last marker I bought 20 years ago. Still works great.

[@Deftonius]

I have no idea how this video showed up in my algorithm, since I haven't played or shopped for a new marker in like 20 years, but this brought me waaaaaaay back.

[@austinogg]

916!!! Wow that detail is insane Tell your friend thanks for the idea so doing that if I can ever afford to get my gun painted

[@spydermag5644]

I love my AC-98. Black body with all ANS red parts front block. The last time I was on the field the kids were making fun of my old school marker. I went out onto the field and tore up the other side of the field. After a few games I switched to my minimag. My first marker was a SL-II and my second was a Spyder-A.

[@DrSnakesMD-xv7jn]

Dude, that takes me back. I remember stripping, cleaning, and timing my autococker. Then moving on to electric cockers.

[@myrontodd1436]

Great review Brad. That’s a very nice clutch. Your friend picked a good color combo. FreeFlow does some great work. They’re currently restoring my original millennium FreeFlow. Can’t wait to shoot it.

[@koolBOY8323]

palmers rock front reg, rock knob, shocktech bomb 3 way, palmers stabilizer vertical reg, ANS ram, eclipse QEVs, ANS low pressure chamber, shocktech supafly bolt, wgp swing trigger, dye sticky3 grips, dye barrel, shocktech mini drop, phat/aci on off asa, steel braided lines, otp slingshot bolt, kapp beavertail, AIM cocking rod, anodized blue pump rod, shocktech rat valve, shocktech ball detent, all on a 3 digit serial number right feed mini cocker. it's not pretty anymore but yeh

[@sickmak90]

Nothing like getting hit in the lenses by the bolt because you have a ridiculously huge drop forward. Ahhh the good ol days.

[@maxxon99]

Lack of patent probably has something to do with Glen Palmer actually inventing the auto cocking mechanism -- Bud Orr just made a mass produced version from his Sniper design.

[@WH17Y]

The DAYS worth of time I spent getting the timing of my autococker perfect. It was a Frankenstein project with no mathching brands, my front block was literally all parts harvested from other markers. I miss that gun. 😢

[@SensiiNips_]

I feel like the autococker is a legacy item. A cool old car for the car collector. Compared with the pricing of other current markers, it just doesnt make sense, but I could be wrong. Still very cool to bring back the build. It is exciting to see again!

[@Adroit1911]

I'm definitely an old car guy, and I will always love my autocockers. But I play with my emek. Your analogy is spot on!

[@brandons6282]

Wow. I know this video is 3+ years old, but I am just finding it. Man, it takes me back! Free Flow and Pro Paintball are a piece of WNY history. They were the only shop around that would service my old Angel LCD back in 03 or so. Good times. Thanks for the nostalgia.

[@Blaines-smallengine-repair]

Was just thinking about angel markers today sad they shut down in 2011 I remember when I bought my first auto cocker it was anodized green with a halo hopper lol and the angel was just such a hot gun back then. Brings back memories I miss those days

[@Acc0rd79]

I still love my old school Black Magic auto cocker! They are some of the most accurate guns made. Just buy an older used cocker and have it sent off to be all cleaned up and you will have one solid gun for years and you will be one of the only guys out there with it!

[@alecfranzetti2510]

Got any places in mind to send it to? I have an old WGP That needs some tlc before it's ready to go.

[@Letstryscience]

If you haven't found anyone yet Tim Firpo at Paintball Trek is great.

[@bdnelss8442]

@@alecfranzetti2510 yup. Tim Firpo

[@empireaxe6113]

Budd Orr would be proud of how the cocker has a big boom into the PB scene . And if you seen a Karni those are the LV1.1 of the cocker world

[@jaimesapien3206]

The fit looks clean homie, you’re definitely spot on with the film thing. Such a more enjoyable process for me as well

[@NameName-eq7oe]

If you choose aesthetic anodizing, you get the added perks of them losing or not finishing your gun.

[@jamescanady3442]

Followed by gaslighting/manipulating you in an effort to try to make you feel like you're the bad one for being (rightfully) upset about it.

[@jamayajackson5256]

Tyler Fare is a hack

[@ThatGuyGregHD]

Love this vid! As an avid Nikon FM-10 35mm guy...autocockers are like an FM-10 vs a D4. There's a certain "magic" missing. And hell yeah, FreeFlow are one hell of a company! My current cocker is a 2k3 with a ShockTech Bomb 2.0 3way!

[@killerbilliards]

appreciate the video!! a tuned autococker is super reliable, crisp, and just feels amazing when you shoot it. i had my ebladed one for years and it was essentially trouble-free but I was also really good at tuning them where people asked me to help them with theirs all the time. mine would do 40bps with the proper loader. only things needed tuning was maybe a seer adjustment here and there but once I dialed it in it was insane. autocockers also shoot flater farther and much more accurate than anything else and no one can deny it without lying to themselves. I'm definitely buying another one for mech play

[@jojorumbles8749]

I think the appeal of autocockers was the visuals of mechanisms moving in operation. The newer guns you pull the trigger and a paintball comes out, no other visuals are happening. With the autococker you get to watch the back block move in and out.

[@Mountain_Man]

Back in the day I had the original sniper 1 and sniper 2 pump autococker. They were so rad! The autococker was always my favorite marker next to the Angel.

[@GrendelPrime79]

I didn't know that the autococker wasn't patented. Fun fact. Not patenting it worked out really well for creating an autococker culture. Its a great throwback to the days of building guns from aftermarket parts and every gun reflecting the personal preferences of the player. Though I prefer my automag, I gotta respect that autococker players for showing their character and the love for the sport.

[@remogaggi82]

I loved the look of KAAP autococker products. They had the sweetest anodizing work I love the ones with gradients

[@FervidBrutality]

I haven't played in over 15 years, but this video gave me a PTSD episode over the old Dye parts I had on my '02 WGP autococker. What a blast from the problematic past. Lol.

[@TylerIsSound]

Still have my autococker from like 15 years ago. Cool video

[@Mike_from_Canmore]

That FF is GORGEOUS

[@JakeXSV]

This thing looks amazing..

[@gettinthrewlife76]

Wuz up paintball brotha👈😎👉?. Comin at you from the 209, Extreme Paintball field is my home field. I myself is still using the ANS CHAOS GEN-3 AUTOCOCKER and my modified 68 Automag. One of my kids also got me a early B-day(this wknd 49yrs old) present, a brand new Tippmann TMC👈😎👉😀. ✌out from the 209👈😎👉

[@txsicshooter]

Still have my Dye Autococker. Loved that thing.

[@chrisf247]

Tbh, I always had great reliability with cockers once I learned to time them. I think a lot of the bad rep for reliability came from flashy but low quality parts. Hearing you talk about the dye three way issues brings that back...

[@chrishenning8829]

I got an 04 WGP Prostock. Eclipse hinge trigger frame. CP and Inception upgrades. Old school AKA bolt, Palmers Pneumatics. Its a one of a kind ripper. 🤘 Love Cockers

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Love the PE frame 👍

[@lateapex7950]

My whole team has shocktech cockers you would be surprised how many mech teams and players are dropping money on cockers.

[@ThatGuyGregHD]

Hell effing yeah man! ST is still the way to go!

[@HUKIT.]

I was a die hard autococker player and remember when the E-Blade came out it transformed it into a beast keeping up with the rest of the electric guns.

[@mousepotato581]

That's pretty cool, it's like a steampunk paintball gun

[@CockerTop]

Got two Clutches - coming - some day. Ordered on November 1st 2019. Update: Received 03 Feb 2021

[@dramalifeny]

Was it worth the wait

[@CockerTop]

@@dramalifeny Yes

[@the1andonlykk320]

I just realized how old school I am , I want a lv1.6 but just really considered this over it just because of nostalgic reasons

[@ANJ_gaming]

thats one of the sickest autocockers I've ever seen

[@theringer13]

Glad I was part of the very early WGP autococker days! They didn’t have a ball detent milled on the body. You had to send it off or have a pro shop install one.

[@rykervillines9477]

Bro that gun is sick

[@Right-Handed_Neutrino]

I use to be on to paintball from 12-18 years old. Even though Spyders were on the cheap end, I had the fully electronic Spyder EM1 with an 18" (I think) Stone Cold II barrel and an Apolocolypse carbon wrapped nitro tank. The size 88 is sticking out in my head for some reason. The tank was a tad on the larger side. It's the first gun controlled by a circuit board on the grips with dipswitches that allowed you to change from semi-auto, 3-shot burst and full-auto and then adjust how many bps for 3-shot & auto up to 20 balls per second. It wasn't perfect, bit she surprised the hell out of people at the field. The gun was finished in this blue chrome like finish. Trigger had much to be desired. IIRC, it had quite a bit of side wobble. It was adjustable, so you could make it so sensitive, just tapping the trigger made it shoot. Sheesh. That was over 20 years ago. At like 16yo, I was visiting my cousin in Allen, TX and there was a college team out there from Houston. After they watched me, their coach wanted me on the team. I didn't live in the state at the time. I was the fastest on the field anywhere I went. Said they saw a skinny kid in a t-shirt and shorts flying up the middle, at the start, getting to the 50 yard line from the gun. No one had gotten that far from the dig. I honestly thought paintball died in place of airsoft. So, do people really still play pb? Are there any pro teams like there use to be in the late '90's & early 2k's?

[@VitaKet]

Sadly just a skeleton crew of players compared to 90's or 00's.

[@mavsformulaful]

I dont blame you for the rant. At wc 2001 when the Dye Angels and reflexs came out the Angel was awesome and the reflex felt like a pretty sto, no where near the caliber of anodizing, function, and milling of the Freflows or SFLs.

[@dhooter]

I had a Bruiser then a AutoCocker in the 90's lol. The dudes with deep pockets had Angels

[@IYUB30]

Can you put up a video showing the Autococker you built actually shooting? Thanks! Love the videos.

[@velowelder6333]

Autocockers we’re cool in the 90’s but finicky so I chose the automag instead, still works and I still play with it.

[@harryfp1494]

I got a wgp autococker at a yard sale yesterday it’s a nice marker works too

[@motoray69]

I love that autocockers are coming back. But we need some hinge frames!!

[@acidicsquirrel9683]

True, i've always been a slide frame fan myself.

[@benjaminkitchen7562]

Inception designs

[@mikew2893]

Nice, love freeflow autocockers

[@ZeroD86]

OMG autocockers was my go to gun back in the day i still have my 01 autococker with a swing trigger.

[@tomlee6263]

That's cool, I also still have my gold anodized Tippmann 68 special, lol

[@ZeroD86]

@@tomlee6263 hell yea i am glad to see and old school gun making a come back. i might have to start playing again lol

[@lokirip2372]

I have the same 01 swing stocker. I have a 95 classic mag too. Still both run great.

[@ZeroD86]

@@lokirip2372 mine might not run since it has sat up for some many years

[@lokirip2372]

@@ZeroD86 cockers in particular do need cleaned and greased fairly regularly, but I bet if you do that and maybe put new orings in the 3way and ram it'll run like a top again.

[@jasoncraig2026]

Enjoyed my AC back in the 90's, but I loved my AGD Automag.

[@kaptainplanet7203]

Got my first one in 2000 it was epic

[@the1andonlykk320]

Damn I got a old auto cockers pump I want back to it’s original form , now I know where I need to get the parts

[@danieltaylor8556]

I had one of those terrible Dye Cockers with an eblade as my first electronic marker. Later on I got a Karnivore. Night and day.

[@kroniix_paintball4789]

i got an 2002 wgp autococker, love the damn thing

[@a.j.gallegos2191]

Bro auto cockers where the dream marker back in the day.

[@TheTankFG]

Loved my autocockers. As a kid in high-school, saved forever to get my custom anodized STO Cocker.

[@KeiichiLe]

Dye machining in house gives them one of the biggest advantages in the industry imo... you can get a great looking gun with the best precision machining in house. I think it's a great chance for Dye to show off why that is.

[@kitsune_7_451]

Pro tip: if you don’t want to lose your barrel sock use cow hitch knot on the part around the trigger and you should never lose it unless you untie it so just let your sock hang

[@joekoehn144]

I have a lighting deluxe Psychoballistic that i have been messing with on and off for over the past 20yrs. I keep pooping the hoses on the three way and i thing thr front block and inline reg might need to be rebuilt. After watching this series i might just have to knock the dust off and see if i can get it going for thencoming up season. I also had might still have a dark angel. My main marker is the angel gat. Also the angel speed 5 then last but not least a nasty shocker that need some boards for

[@carsenderobertis2361]

Best paintball guns 2020/2021

[@cookieofdestruction]

Sort of question Brad. I have been debating between a Gmek and M170. In way to many words can you describe the difference between the feel of a slide vs hinge trigger?

[@wawilked1]

M170 over Gmek The build quality and trigger pull much better. GMek first version M170 refined to the best 👈

[@cookieofdestruction]

@@wawilked1 dude that was 2 years ago. I am long past that and bought a gtek plus mek frame

[@TheWiper-jm1tp]

Will a gp one piece barrel fit on a emek?

[@matwey967]

Dont know about the little stuff dye made, but Dye Hyper 3 or those newer regs are very good, and are very consistent but expensive if in good condition

[@neillmckee4927]

My first marker I ever shot was a bud sniper pump with slam fire the daddy of the autococker 😮👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@iniquity_9880]

Short answer they're dope af

[@pollackrocket]

Still with Shocktech for the win on boutique Autococker's/ Cocker parts. They machine their own pneumatics, bodies, trigger frames etc. and they have long been at the top of the heap (along with Belsales, and ID) for Cockers, and Cocker parts. If you cant afford a Shocktech, Inception Designs, or Belsales....buy a Palmers or WGP marker. Of course, everyone has their own opinion

[@OSKOcolot]

Nothing beats a gunfighter frame, but when it comes to finish and attention to detail, Buddy goes way beyond Danny

[@christopherschroeder-pi8xf]

Still have my 97 autococker and it runs great... Is it safe to say it's vintage or antique now? Or maybe I am. Great videos bud!!

[@keithjoseph7433]

I have a 99 sto and I always wanted to replace the seals since one popped on me but never learn how........lol Thing still looks brand new.

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

If you want to fix it a friend has a company paintballtek.com he could get it sorted.

[@verablack3137]

If I didn't already have a Palmer Blazer, I would probably have an Autococker with Palmer pneumatics. I have tried basically all of them, and the only pneumatics I could notice as being smoother than the Palmer stuff was from Belsales and I am not about to import that stuff from the UK or spend the high prices of the used market for them.

[@jasonhull2163]

I played paintball in the time Automags and real WORR Game made them. I had a ANS GEN X 1 Autocoker and it ripped. I don't care what people said back then but ANS Autocokers were highly underrated. I had a 68 Automag classic also and I loved the fact I knew my gun most likely not tear up. Automags were the most rugged guns and cost efficient and had good accuracy. I liked my Autococker better for wood ball or speedball if you are shooting from the back of the team. Real Autocockers were the most accurate and long range paintball gun back in the day. You have to constantly tune and Autococker and are difficult to work on them.

[@evie3290]

I miss u brad :)

[@gabbisan360]

Who makes that on off ASA? I’m looking for one to put on my spyder Fenix that I loan to my friends.

[@Zdeckard]

Still have my spider flash from 20 years ago

[@riceman-cq8yd]

I still have my origanal pump and autococker from the bob long ironmen.

[@kitsune_7_451]

My dad has a original autococker and he wants to convert it into a pump honestly I don’t blame him lol.

[@kraftwurx_Aviation]

Made me think of the Automag and minimag

[@flippino35]

bought an empire resurrection and sniper. couldnt get them to work for me. i would get rollouts, low fps shots, shots that would go 5ft, crushed balls in the breach. my resurrection prolly shot good for like 10-20 shots before i got broken balls in the breach. sold both and got me a dsr+ and mech frame. wont be touching anything closed bolt in the near future

[@drewallen6269]

Hey brad I’m looking to buy a new gun I want an Etha 2 but I was wondering if you had any other suggestions used or new. I love the vids btw

[@lucid8905]

Etha 2 is the way to go 100%, and if you’re looking for a hopper ALWAYS use a spire 3, then other spires are uselessly overpriced

[@lucid8905]

@@TampaTom Yeahhh had is few dye ltrs and rotors back awhile ago with my lv1.5, I did NOT have fun with it🤣 just decided with a good ol spire, since spires are like the Tipp 98’s of hoppers

[@octogames6823]

I still have my autococker from the late 90's :D I would share photos if anyone is interested. I haven't used it in 20 years and plan on restoring it for the nostalgia and memories of it all. Im thinking I may just need to replace all the orings and grease, she should work like a champ again.

[@getmeagator]

Dye should consider Titanium for any component that cycles.

[@seanmolloy6188]

There's a reason why pretty much all paintball guns have cocker threads for barrels.

[@chrisw7188]

i think with all the new electric guns shooting 30fps, its refreshing to have something more mechanical like an autococker

[@patricklarocca1674]

autococker market is a lot bigger than you think. At least in the Midwest it's pretty big.

[@FCNFAST]

Still have a spanky cobra... Things beautiful

[@billscreations1999]

Cant find one to purchase anywhere

[@riflemanm16a2]

That is a beautiful gun. I don't think I'd have the patience to maintain something like that, but it looks like a blast to use.

[@rosalindaserna3995]

Can u do a review on the hstl hk army Jersey

[@mramseyISU]

So from what I understand Freeflow is polishing the 3-way internally before they ship them. That might be why the Freeflow worked better than what Docfire experienced.

[@MrBottlecapBill]

It's possible. I assume if you can choose the anno freeflow is buying the parts without anno. So it would be an easy thing to do.

[@myrontodd1436]

Buddy from FreeFlow posted a video on Facebook about this. He polishes the three ways, just as he did before way back when FreeFlow was started. Dye did drop the ball on this, but hopefully they are looking to fix in the future

[@kraftwurx_Aviation]

Bud Orr Autococker!

[@andygray1408]

I can't deny that the new stuff is faster but, i've had a geo 4 and lv 1.6 go down on me but my 15 year old auto cocker has yet to fully die on me.

[@bboggio28]

Still kick myself for ever selling my “clown” anno’d red white and blue splash revolution. It was perfect with the belsales slider frame. Could run a JT rev and not outrun it.

[@timothycollette8263]

Yass!!! great video!! LOVE, the autococker!

[@patfeher6655]

Cockers are the most accurate guns made. Store owners loved cockers back in the day, it was a constant money maker. Upgrade parts cost more than the gun itself

[@MrBottlecapBill]

*facepalm*

[@patm9926]

100% most accurate marker ever made