This is why EVE Online is the Best MMO!

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

it's funny this guy stole a ship worth thousands of dollars and they still have a civil discussion while in other games they go on a tantrum cause you steal 2 kills from them

[@sparklycloud822]

Darko Mihajlovski in EVE they are sophisticated and mature. There's years ahead of every other game.

[@Rschaltegger]

and then you find TEST...well there goes your hypophesis out of the window

[@japzone]

It helps that a lot of the people in EVE are older than your average online cod player.

[@cormack6349]

TEST is good

[@jvjd]

This is called "Maturity" In reality its true what ticktocks says" you gave friendship for a bunch of pixels"

[@ark14700]

When you find a friend on an online game, you play with him for over a year. But all along it was a ruse to steal your ship. greentext/10

[@RsCombe1990]

Oh man the feels. This is the way I used to play Runescape when I was a kid. Becoming friends with them and then boom take all their gold and rare items.

[@KnabTheGoblin]

You just don't get how hard something like this is. It looks like he just asked, but this guy found a way into the ELITE pirate corp, fought alongside them for a year, and socially engineered his way through this scam. That is not easy, it took time and patience.

[@Ghettochild.2600]

Poly Gamey Doesn't really take much talent to lie and con someone out of something once you befriend them and gain their trust... But maybe it's because I'm good at being a dirty rotten scoundrel? Just patience and dedication. He did achieved his goal no matter how you look at it. If you think about it, it's actually the owner of the ship's fault for barrowing out his ship to others. That's just asking for something like this to happen. His trust was seen as a vulnerability and thus exploited. Don't lend things out to others that you wouldn't mind losing. There is always a chance you'll never see it again.

[@RagingRugbyst]

You guys seriously fucking underestimate the skill required to be accepted by people and be believable while doing so. she didn't even need to steal the thing... IT GOT HANDED TO HER, while apparently pulling off some convincing enough pvp action. "Doesent take talent once you befriend them" NO SHIT, the hard part is in the disguise, even the psychological manipulation in order to make something socially acceptable is admirable. Just because it's a fucking game, doesen't mean it's child's work.

[@kaspernbs]

DandyRocker the scammer was male btw.

[@boredanddangerous3928]

I feel guilty when I treat fictional game characters like shit. I'd have no chance of doing that.

[@Durangedkitten]

BoredandDangerous When you play eve long enough and look at your corps ship hanger price which has a lot of 0s in it you start to feel less guilty and more greedy

[@CommanderM117]

in the eve of throne you win or you die

[@jaroddunbeck5893]

BoredandDangerous there are thousands of people in game that share your sentiment. These cheeseball stories of theft are only 2% of what Eve is

[@remnant55]

I'm with you BoredandDangerous. I can't even be mean to the party members in Dragon age. They're not even real and the closest I can get is watching lets plays and "jerk inquisitor" videos.

[@nikolajjankov4779]

Exactly what a scammer would say

[@hypernovaD]

Not as Ingenious as the guy who made a working banking system in Eve Online gaining the trust of many players and then one day, packed up his bank and built a ridiculously powerful ship with the money and basically painted a "come get me sign" on his powerful new ship.. that guy is the definition of legendary.

[@Dakarn]

Ah. EVE Bank. Glad I never invested in that Ponzi Scheme.

[@gremlinchemist3621]

Well, has anybody killed him yet?

[@dannygelbart6827]

Lord Doge yes long time ago

[@JeanLucCaptain]

well that debt (HEHEHEHE) was repaid in full.

[@bigbaderek1978]

yea like the week after he did that..there is no such ship that someone would say come get me in..any ship can be destroyed relatively easy

[@peterpan4038]

First rule in EVE: never trust anyone you can't punch in his real life face.

[@BlueBD]

Martin Vogt i heard storys of clans that require Real meet ups to Join

[@sly2218]

Blue★ not quite true. There are many meet and greets and community gatherings although. The prominent example of this is Goonswarm which was derived and originated from the something aweful forums which is an online chat community of players that would join games and play them together.

[@KnabTheGoblin]

Eve Online has such legendary tales that events caused by the community have been burned into the lore of the game itself. It's amazing just how this MMO is shaped by the people who play it. And the stuff that CCP let's happen because they believe in a true sandbox, they do step in and ban people that use bots or abuse the game in anyway. They don't want cheaters after all.

[@lsaacN7]

I know games like EVE are rare in the MMO genre, but the concept of a Massively Multiplayer Game where the community has little to no effect is weird to me. As an example everyone on a World of Warcraft server could meet up and have a war on a grander scale than all of the scripted expansions and it would have no effect on the game at all. I suppose at the time of World of Warcraft's release meeting people digitally was still a novelty, but there's now 100 other way to do that and I can't find another reason for so many players in a linear experience.

[@KnabTheGoblin]

The thing is, EvE released in 2003, WoW in 2004. And EvE was always designed to be this way, there were some unexpected changes along the way, but it has always been open ended like this.

[@mom-ve6ui]

with the exception of the new tutorial they added (nice touch btw makes startin out abit more managable) eve doesnt have any scripted events the entire game is freeform do as u please were u please wen u please its recomended you join a newbro focussed player corp but with abit of research an ofcourse youtube guides gettin shit done on a low sp toon isnt rly tht bad

[@Dakarn]

The coolest thing is all the new players who know about the wars that happened 10 years ago when I was just starting, and they are full on impressed that I was there in the fights that they heard of, and want full accounts. I get to tell stories that they've never heard of, because I was in alliances on the side of Band of Brothers, but on the flanks and behind the scenes. So much stuff goes on in EVE, that if you ever wanted to make a TV show.. you would have years and years of material. It would be too much for a movie. It would have to be a series. Just the first Great EVE War (BoB+Allies vs the EVE Universe), would be enough for an entire season, or more.

[@paladi167]

seconded, I spent best part of 3 years missioning for cap part BPO's, and mining for mats, to build my own freighter......

[@DaleAdrasta24]

EVE sits around playing dead and every once and a while an explosive story like this one comes along and shows people that the game is alive and kicking, thank you for sharing PGG!

[@NamesZKP]

Dale Wepener The game sounds like shit.

[@NamesZKP]

Dale Wepener 16 months just to steal something from me?

[@NamesZKP]

The game seems like it's filled with nothing but targets, marks and suckers if you got players spending 16 months just to steal something inside of it.

[@downnice95]

EVE has it own culture and it is understnable on someone thinks it is weird/stupid but EVE is unique among games.

[@jamesc.2907]

Damn Tiktok, hats off for the positive attitude m8. I would have been on *suicide watch* after something like this 😂

[@lilphucker4561]

I would be afraid of going to jail. In my youth I put my cousin in the hospital cause he back stabbed on me in the game Trump after I made a deal with him. His skank girlfriend pushed him to do it. I visited him in the hospital, still pissed off at him, the only thing I said to him was blood means more then pussy. It was principle for me.

[@iceman61489]

tiktok got honeydicked

[@jvjd]

this tiktok guy, his group and his alliance will have him podded every-time they see him Lol

[@jamesc.2907]

on sight lol

[@OzarkGenerations]

Nope. Tiktokk's vest revenge is simply ignore the little dweeb. Tiktokk's currency isn't ships or ISK; it's fun.

[@aznp33nRocket]

If you played EVE and invested time into developing your character, you'll know that this Samantha guy started the game with this type of thing in mind. That or he chose it very early on. The game literally has "talent trees" (for those who MMO) that focus on deception and robbery. Can't get mad at a guy who played the role. Everyone talks about the depth of the game, but seem to ignore that EVE developers practically promote this crazy risky behavior. Anyone can choose the path of a scammer, robber, or whatever you want to call it, but few pull off these major heists. Does anyone remember waaaay back when someone hijacked a whole corp's titan with tons of resources and treasure and sent it off far into space, taking ages before someone found it? That guy spent a looooong time trying to infiltrate, manipulate, and climb the ranks, all with the goal of screwing over a Corp? I feel those guys who lost their ships took it so well mainly because they all know that Samantha played a role that is literally offered in EVE. Sure there is some butt hurts left unspoken, but in the world of EVE, Samantha aced a valid role. Personally, I never could do stuff like that since I play any game that requires you to invest time for progression, mainly for the friendships. Hats off to Samantha, same for the 3 who took the loss so well.

[@Just1PlayerLikeU]

AznP33nRocket totally agree with you.

[@tonivazquez1081]

Talent trees that focus on on deception and robbery? no. Simply no. And i have been playing EVE on and off since 2006.

[@theman-delorean200]

Toni Vázquez that’s what I was thinking too

[@Stedman75]

they trusted a guy called samantha? lol

[@yaldabaoth2]

His masculinity is also a scam.

[@Sacremas]

Well my daddy left home when I was three And he didn't leave much to Ma and me Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze Now, I don't blame him 'cause he run and hid But the meanest thing that he ever did Was before he left, he went and named me "Samantha"

[@jimmyshousevideos]

Damn it, I was going to make a boy named Sue reference

[@Sacremas]

Moogle Midgar Ashley J Williams would likely argue it's a manly name. The guy from Evil Dead that is, not the girl with the exact same name from Mass Effect...

[@torlumnitor8230]

maybe his parents are Johnny Cash fans.

[@PrettyGoodGaming]

Stories like these are what make EVE Online so entertaining. What are your favourite gaming stories?

[@PrettyGoodGaming]

Have you ever pulled off a scam half as good as this?! We need to know!

[@kristof1291994]

Pretty Good Gaming well I once managed to trade 15 cow hides for a rune scimitar!

[@PrettyGoodGaming]

I said to Liam in the office "I bet loads of replies will be about Runescape" so far, 100% of our replies are about Runescape.

[@hossameldinel-sherif4738]

A guy tricked me in runescape 10 years ago and stole my account and left me with a load of cabbages after playing with me for about 2 months. I will never forget that guy.

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

Pretty Good Gaming On Ark survival evolved official cluster server instead of an alpha tribe me and a few other tribes kept grief ers and raiders at bay so game could stay fun for everyone. worked for months and I constantly emphasized that any scoundrel could play nice and screw us over within a few days if they armed up in secret so it was important not to trust people willy nilly. Well... I was right one tribe played friendly until they could start wiping tribes offline without leaving evidence. I actually caught them but it was too late they got their emotional meathooks in everyone and within 2 weeks couple tribes left rest got wiped now half the island is walled off and covered in turrets... unplayable. :(

[@laureen69]

the most expensive ship, and almost priceless is a "Friend Ship".

[@found6393]

EVE Online: Putting the Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game in MMORPG since 2003.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

John Gleixner ^this^

[@geebeepman]

woah 2003? its almost as old as ragnarok.

[@finite187]

Eve Online stories are legendary. However the actual game itself has a very steep learning curve, there's a lot of grinding involved and the game is full of pricks.

[@ark14700]

feels like real life

[@Dakarn]

There is a picture that depicts the curve what we EVE players have come to affectionately call the "Learning Cliff." imgur.com/jj16ThL

[@crazydog3307]

a lot of grinding eh.... i might consider playing although i generally go for more medieval fantasy type games

[@titotheninja]

well, i would say early on theres a lot of grinding. now i make around 500m/hr to 1b/hr, depending on what im doing. so it really only takes 1 day to make the plex for all 6 of my accts. the rest of the time im on pvp fleets and having fun with friends. after my first 3 months, i went solo and got my own wormhole system, and there i learned a lot about solo fighting, and about how to control space. love this game.

[@Overdoseplus]

You grind for money in this game not exp. EXP you learn passively all the time even when offline, basically matrix style but slower.

[@grrr1351]

Plot twist: Tikktokk was in on this with Samantha and the random buyer to raise that gofundme money.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

grrr 。 But it broke prestige of that alliance

[@DocSwood]

Holy Shite... Han Solo is still alive! He just calls himself "Samantha" now and plays EVE Online. ;^)

[@jamesdenney9653]

Exactly what I was thinking XD - Han and Lando all over again!

[@hloui4824]

Such a fascinating story from this extraordinary game, hats off to the greatness. 4th-wall-breaking plot twist: Samantha: Hey Tik, since I've been playin with ya for so long, I've got a plan do you wanna hear me out? Tiktokk: Sure buddy tell me about it. Samantha: Let's pretend that I played with you for 16 months just to steal your most worthy ship in the game, like a really cool con artist would do in real life. Then we post this on the Reddit and people who bought the story will feel bad for you, then you can set up a "go fund me" and earn some easy money and then we could go get some hookers or something hehehe... Tiktokk:......Genius!

[@xenon8342]

That kindo shit happens!

[@lolmanmagee2785]

honestly that would be the bigger twist

[@KusunokiSG47]

This person got a knack for an undercover job.

[@brandondasher261]

I put 1700 hours on this game in under two years. This video explains very well why it is my all time favorite game

[@Searching4Reason]

Brandon Dasher Eve still holds the most played hours of any game by a wide margin for me. One toon at 3.1/2 years and another at 3 years, would dual box the game on average 4 hours a day. Met some good people on there from around the world. Cheers to all.

[@deathbysnoosnoo3713]

I play eve online and have been for several years. I can confirm that eve is cutt throat, you don't trust anyone in the game. For the people who feel that the game is "unfair" please note its a true sandbox. It can take time but if you find the right corp, you will love the game. Make friends, pew pew and loose ships. Loosing ships permanently sounds horrible to some people but it makes you remember why you need to get better at the game. If pvp is not your thing, being a space trucker or a market trader (no SEC rules either!) you can figure out why real life does not operate in the same manner =)

[@NZblind]

I was in Amamake last night and Tikktokk was still there so good on him for not rage quitting the game. Kinda sad he lost it tho as i had tried a few times to kill his shiny ship for glory and fame(got wrecked every time but fair enough my ship was 200mill his is 200bill). GF

[@_Woo]

This is a con not a heist.

[@lilphucker4561]

I played EvE for about 6 years, didn't have a 90 billion isk one of a kind ship but had pretty much anything I wanted. Being in the IT field for work I ended up managing my corporation from work, playing at work, never lost my job but it was affecting my work performance. When I get home I would go out and pvp for hours then back to real work on 4 hours sleep. When one of our nulsec setups would get attacked I'd take a day off work to defend it. Running 16 clients at a time with massive bot mining operations. God those were the days, I loved every minute of it. Then one day I had an epiphany and realized I had to stop playing because the time commitment and addiction was causing problems with work, my marriage and just life in general. I got divorced, bought a dog and got back to real life with a little bit of gaming here and there. EvE is indeed the best sandbox MMO ever created (so far).

[@cyphi474]

5 minutes of glory....or friendship for years. I know EVE is raw universe, but something telling me he will regret that one day.

[@Oen713]

Its the Economy that creates the interesting scenarios. If Star Citizen can copy this... itll be the next Eve. IF.

[@xXM60E4Xx]

Star citizen is a scam

[@iminformedbecauseisawabunc9402]

Your face is a scam. #Rekt

[@downnice95]

your comment is pretty Meta when you think about it.

[@JamesHardaker]

Malcolm Renolds would have a thing or 2 to say about this...

[@tenaciousrodent6251]

This is, indeed, "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"- the game.

[@minescrub1895]

this make me want to play eve even more ive been wanting to play this game for years but never had the money

[@deadlydragon]

scaaamps it has a free to play option now.

[@jlewwis1995]

deadlydragon Well yeah but you probably can't even do that much as f2p, I haven't played it myself actually (yet) but I can assure you Eve is almost definitely p2w (though I guess that depends on what is meant by "win", i guess since Eve is kind of a sandbox RP game there really isn't a real win condition, but if you want to have all the best gear/ships you definitely will have to pay up which basically makes it p2w)

[@minescrub1895]

I think you can gather the same amount as a p2w player just with a good amount of grinding.

[@Anope21]

Love this game, have been playing for 10 years! Here's to 10 more

[@Merc11080]

It is by far the hardest MMO out there. I've been playing 5 to 6 years and it has gotten a little bit stale for me but I still get the itch to login from time to time.

[@kriddius]

Great story :) But in all honesty, 18 months for 2 Alliance Tournament hulls and a jump freighter is cheap change compared to what many others have done in a shorter space of time. Eve is brutal.

[@caseyharrell702]

Eve Online is an amazing experience, I don't know if I would call it a game, hobby, job, or career. The story you shared is amazing but it still reveals a human condition that appears when no real consequence for your actions. Ticktock was scammed and played, and was a victim of theft. Eve is great I wish i was smart enough to play it.

[@beatdownerz]

This was an awesome episode. Good to see you guys are actually interested in things around the gaming world and not only about the views etc. Thanks boys.

[@mwsoupy]

Us runescape players will spend a year making one pvp account. Some people have years of gametime compelling few goals. MMO players really go hard in the games they play, especially if the currency is worth anything.

[@aedivian]

That's some straight up sociopathic behavior regardless if it "is just a game" lol.

[@mrman949]

Before the latest updates the conversion rates between Plex and Isk at jita was about 1 PLEX to 1.19B Isk. 1 Plex = 15$. About 3,781-1134.5 = a net gain of about... 2646.15USD.

[@0rph33]

make a video on world war bee, its legit probably the coolest thing ive ever heard happening between players of a video game

[@badaxtion1878]

The story is great. I understand why he did it. But if he did it to me, I'd be looking for his house right now....

[@pakekify1799]

FAT JAXSON oh shit...

[@unicron_zen3814]

FAT JAXSON why? It's a game. If it was me i would ask the community if they see him and what section does he generally fly at. Than set up an ambush. Pay a spy, or maybe a bounty hunter.

[@NuckleBebop]

Another legendary EVE story, no other MMO'S can replicate this kinda thing, definitely none of the modern ones

[@evergaolbird]

A story of a lifetime, makes everyone jelly alone to the fact that the plan worked out - but at the same time the prize to pay after the whole plan was something you can't return into.

[@gooseman1]

the whiptail price is actually closer to $1,000 and the final heist of 300bil isk is about $3,000 or more its still a lot of money for those interested the isk to $ is calculated by an item, plex, you can buy for $ and redeem ingame to buy skins and game time, this plex can be sold on the in-game market for isk, and thats where the isk to $ of all these stories you hear comes from.

[@AzngameFreak03]

In an era, maybe sometime during the Medieval Period, this was probably normal (not the whole flying machines in space) but normal to backstab a friend, let alone family for financial or other benefits. It's good to hear that people can be civil and nobody got physically hurt during the process. But a friendship was lost ),:

[@Heisenberg_SC]

You were right. This was a story worth sticking around for.

[@Jake4Janice]

So much has changed. Haven't played Eve in 7 years. I imagine my toon would be antiquated even though it's a cap pilot. The old days of wars when Triple A, IAC, Sylph, Goons, and other alliances crashed the server with one big major battle. I do miss the adrenaline rush.

[@bairdrew]

Oh man, i loved eve back when i played it. That period of time, between the Drone regions opening and the pushing into Delve with the Redditers.... I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. I've seen Titans on fire off the entrance to Fountain. I've seen tachyons glitter in the dark at the M-tack gate. When the servers die these moments will finally be lost. Like....tears. in. rain.

[@nicktaylor8032]

the comments at 6:17 were my thoughts all along. Spot on mate, glad u saw it too.

[@cochacopen]

Anyone remember the Bloodbath of B-R5RB back in 2014? The ship destruction cost in that battle was about 11 Trillion ISK; est. real world cost is about 300,000$ - 330,000$ U.S.

[@JinzoTK]

Talk about dedication. 16 months of building a friendship to accomplish your original goal. And going through with it. May not like what the guy did, betraying his friends but gotta admire that dedication

[@zhain0]

my friend in eve was behind the largest high sec heist in eve's history, i helped him haul it all away in a cloaked hauler. it took a few trips but we lost nothing :) good days

[@flar7684]

6:36 right in the feels man :'( so you sell your friendship (the best ship) for 300b? Now what? You have to buy a new pilot and start over, either playing it straight and join a capital fleet of an alliance or continue this behavior and keep scamming... or you could start your own corporation and create something for other people to enjoy and give back manifold what you have taken. A scammers life must truly be lonely in an already dystopian universe.

[@blech71]

TilkTokk's reply is so well played and is the mental jail that will haunt the guy that pulled the heist. In the end that is more of a move than getting those ships IMO.

[@GodTheBear]

Amazing. Reminds me of the old days in Star Wars Galaxies. Entire city treasuries would be emptied because someone became mayor who shouldn't have been.

[@chemislife]

most I ever dedicated to a single goal in a game was 13 months in a browser rts. My account was in the top 100 by the end and had 26 villages being managed manually (I didn't like the paid Merchant manager). The partner I worked with and myself archived our goal at the end by winning the end goal the game had for the server. Stories like this are tame compared to some of the stories I read and heard about in that game's forums from the extremely competitive members.

[@dwwolf4636]

Sometimes I really miss the old comrades from COW/AoW days and the long patrols. Then I remember how much work EVE is. I play games I can combine with having a family life now.

[@Agent_Clark]

Finally coverage of an in game event that makes sense for people who don;t play.

[@LordHarvestA]

During the ice rework, I turned 1bil isk of start up investment into 70bil isk trading up, margin trading over 2 weeks. I was buying ice from all over the region and 2 others, getting it all transported to 1 system for sale. best billion isk I ever borrowed from friends.

[@Feedsyourminds]

This was a good intro, grabbed my interest thanks!

[@slbwoy]

Holy shit, this has to be made into a short story. The planning process, gaining the trust of his "friends" only to stab them in the back. That's some real shit.

[@D1rt3nthu51ast]

I do something like this in rust, certainly not a multiple monthlong thing, since rust has weekly wipes that reset the map to make things fresh, but I play with a group(who I randomly met by sneaking into their group and just started giving them a pep talk about how "we can do this", I didn't know what they were actually doing, but they let me into their group because they liked my attitude, I have been playing with the people for over a year now) and they do the building and I help out however I can. Whenever a rival group builds a base nearby and they haven't seen me with my group, I approach them and act like I just started the new wipe. I talk to them, be nice, I always come with absolutely no gear, so they believe I play alone, and i gain their trust. They let me into their base, I act silly, and they allow me to run with them. What they never realise, is that I'm taking screenshots of the layout of their base and upload them to my groups discord, they let me craft stuff for them, which allows me to find out where their loot rooms are, giving us the straightest shot to their hard earned loot, sometimes I encourage the rivals to raid our other rivals, with varying successes of them taking out the other rival, or they get wiped out, making them a weaker target. Then after a couple days of this, me and my group strikes. With all of the knowledge I gathered from spending time with these guys, we wipe them out fairly well and they leave the server for good. My friends jokingly call me the sociopath of rust sometimes because I'm seemingly the only one who can manage to befriend these rival groups, they like my attitude I guess, and I've done stuff like this around 5 or more times in over a year and I still do it around every wipe. I kinda feel like making a KZbin channel around this kind of stuff. Would anyone be interested in this kind of thing? I would be willing to if I could get a decent subscriber base around it. It's always really fun to do and I like doing it.

[@stewarttheassassin]

Every gamer should try EVE online once. Would love to see more videos from you guys about the crazy player generated content in EVE.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

Stewart Mason for most people it won't stick. but for those it does it is an unique experience.

[@themadhammer3305]

mansuy adrien if you dont try you wont know, now that its gone free to play i might take another look at it myself

[@zeeroakool8513]

This story about sums up the very best thing about EVE - the people who play this amazing game.

[@hesoyam881]

I can honestly never get into EVE online. I'm way too casual, and even losing an inventory worth of barrows in Runescape, which takes just a day or two, gets me all fired up. Major respect to all the people who stick around in EVE and get involved in these huge stories and events

[@justinwaters2104]

I've been playing for about 6 years give or take. Things like this rarely happen, but 300 billion ISK was worth more than the his gained friendship and respect, as well as his entire reputation in game. Now, no corp. in the game is going to trust this guy. All upper management of large corp's will know of his name. They either will not let him in for being a known infiltrator or spy, or will never allow him to gain in ranks. He threw his credibility out of the window, but became a legend at the same time. 300 Billion ISK in US dollars is approx. 3,000 dollars. 90 billion is is about 900 dollars. On the current market in EVE for Plex(A different currency than can be used as in-game time or sold for immediate ISK), 10 bill = 100 dollars. Depending on how much you play the game, on 1 character, it'd take about 6 months to a year to gain that much ISK using in-game methods assuming you don't lose any in the process and ONLY grind for ISK almost every day. At the same time this hurts EVE because people have the immediate thought that you have to be some kind of old rich guy to play EVE which is false. Nooby friendly Corps such as Brave Newbies Inc. or EVE University help out newbro's all the time with free disposable ships. Many wars ingame are fought with cheaper Doctrine fleets. You can easily do well in EVE without spending a dime.

[@jimmyshousevideos]

Shit like this is what I'm hoping Star Citizen will have. I really want to head up a pirate gang and capture a capitol ship of some sort.

[@rikilamaru]

it wont they pretty much state it wouldnt be like eve

[@jimmyshousevideos]

then how will piracy work if I cant steal ships or even the cargo since its in the ships.

[@rikilamaru]

idk but sc devs stated they didnt want it to be like eve

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

they don't want SC to have as much negative consequences of ship destruction and grinding. but they stated in one of their earlier post that they DO want to allow player freedom as eve allows it. it being having an org be a huge producer for the in glad market to you hacking inside a ship to steal it's cargo, player freedom at Eve's level or better is something they will do.

[@ppsarrakis]

i think SC will have some short of ship insurance but much more forgiving than eve's with the idea that you get your ship back for free? i guess you might loose the cargo from pirates.

[@ChrisPTenders]

Fascinating stuff. I felt like I was listening to a synopsis of a string of Outlaw Star episodes or something. Way cool. Far out. Lit.

[@siraskalon3793]

Damn. This turned into some Fast and Furious type drama. I'm glad I came back to this game.

[@AndrewUHS]

6:10 I think you hit the nail onm the head right here. Samantha can spin a great story, but I don't believe this was some long con. When I was a little kid collecting pokemon cards, I had a friend who was prepared to break ties with me so long as he could run off with my Machamp. We were actual friends, but at that moment he was focused more on his personal collection than playing the game with anyone. I'm inclined to believe Samantha saw an opportunity, did something shitty, and chose to lose his friends.

[@JaredMisaki1]

I have to applaud this guy's daring and Third time's a charm.

[@RyanShaw-z8u]

As an eve player, that's the name of the game. It's nice that he got his ship back, but don't fly (or trade) a ship you can't afford to lose.

[@rheabrady2541]

You ask us to share any long planned heists we had pulled while playing eve. Well years ago i spent about 6 months getting myself into the mining directors role of a group by the name of miners in barges. Then part of the alliance "free trade zone" in wicked creek. After about 2 more months of playing that role i managed to dissasemble 3 pos towers 1 of being a death star and aroubd 8 billion in modules ships and high end minerals. I then managed to very carefully, using 4 accounts, scout an obelisk filled with my loot and flew it all the way up a friendly pipe to empire where i then exchanged all the goods to alts and slowly over days moved it all to jita / amar and sold it all off. My takings were worth approximately 25billion isk. The characters have since been sold that i used to pull off the heist. They were "jarel obleek" and "etherianna". After that heist o felt a bit bad and retired from piracy.

[@Dang00TheAlien]

I heard another story that they added this new ship with A.I that could match the players and they lost 2 massive ships to it. But they eventually sent a few fighters in and destroyed it, then a pirate flew in and stole the blueprints for the ship and made a run for it. only to be destroyed by one of the big capital ships

[@owenwells7692]

Close but not quite, they introduced a new exploration site containing an industrial complex thats the only way to get blueprints for the new blood raider faction capital ships. The first, and so far only, time it was taken out someone ran in in an interceptor, nicked the blueprints then got blown up, taking the new blueprints with them in the explosion.

[@FullFledged2010]

When i got the offer to fly our corp's titan the thought of stealing it definitely crossed my mind, but than again a titan is not something you can hide or escape with ^^

[@ifurkend]

This happens all over MMO games: faking friendship, affection or even in-game marriage just for pillaging possessions with real-world value. There were even violence and homicides in reality for retaliating the virtual scammers.

[@kinglawl3970]

I used to do that on world of warcraft back when it was good.. I was the redridge druid and i would constantly harass red ridge because my water travel form would make it so no one could catch up to me. No one played feral druid or boomkin at the time( I was feral), so I would destroy the town mercilessly then once alliance started calling in high level reinforcements I would jump into the water and just swim away. I had so much fun, but those days are dead now :(

[@Shajirr_]

leaving the ship with several million isk wares on autopilot afk and getting it killed and looted in high sec 5 minutes later, 3 hours camping at the gate and then leaving because no one came, going to the siege operation with 400 people in one sector, 10 minutes to load after jumping, loading directly into the pod since someone already killed my battleship, these are my stories from playing EVE...

[@RinnosukeETQW]

several million isn't really that much.

[@Shajirr_]

sure, I don't know what the situation is now, but for me at the time (which was like in 2007-2008 maybe) being in a small corp that can't just whoop out huge amounts of cash to fund you it was quite a lot

[@RinnosukeETQW]

Shajirr still not alot then. Several million, even in those days, is 10mins work.

[@stephaniejaah]

I feel sorry for your bad experience, but you have like 20 options to make sure you are taking a safe route, and besides that dont use AUTOpilot when hauling stuff you cant effort to lose.. even being in Highsec there is always a chance someone might blow up your ship and loses his in the progress too, thats what i like about EVE Online you are nowhere ever safe!

[@sola4393]

You can't be friend when someone pull a stunt like this even they really mean it. The trust is broken and will never be mend even both try to, there is always something luring in the back of your mind if he/she is for real. Is sad they lose such good friendship for a game pixel.

[@MsLia32]

Of course you have to wonder how much of this is real and how of it was planned. He might just have gotten very lucky and things might have developped spontanously.

[@sauronh7326]

I never played MMOs before and never even wanted to. However after watching this video and hearing a story as cool as this I'll probably start.

[@rasiabsgamingcorner2258]

those quotes from tick tock are truly sad you can feel he is sad about losing a friend.... Dam

[@shinigami388]

I invested about 3 months for about 15BN isk worth of stuff. I realize that that's not much money, but the initial plan wasn't even the heist. I originally had wardecced a corp that ended up hiding in a wormhole system. After about a week of recon, I eventually found an entrance to their system and planted my alts. Worse, I LET THEM KNOW the alts were there, and were mine. This basically disabled their entire alliance as they were too paranoid to do anything knowing that I, specifically was watching them and could get them in their WH or outside (wardec was kept active) After another two weeks, they finally agreed to a 1v1 duel, the winner would either pay me a ransom, or if I lost, would retract my alts from the wormhole. It was a frigate duel, and the ships were chosen unknown to the other. I forget what I brought, but as soon as I saw his ship on d-scan, I knew what the outcome would be - a loss for me, which I told him in local immediately. But, being the honorable pirate I am, I went through with the duel, lost the ship, and pulled my alts out of their system, ensuring they watched me leave. Well, about half an hour later, I get a message from their "pvp leader" and I end up getting invited to join their alliance. After a short while I effectively become alliance lead in all matters pvp. These guys were, to be fair, relatively new to the game and many of their members had no clue about pvp or even ship fitting. I spent the following two months trying to get them into shape with decent fits, a good WH defense fleet, having ships on standby, etc. Eventually, after continued signs they wouldn't progress(or even listen to logic) I became disenfranchised. For a period I had genuinely joined to help them out. But then, thoughts of my progression through their ranks and access to POS hangers and the like began to give me ideas. I spent the next month or so trying to get them to build up as much of a fleet as possible, and give me access so that I could "distribute combat ships in the event that leadership is not online", which was, again, still kind of honest, though the thought of a future heist was now pretty well bedded in my mind. Some weeks in, I had access to three POS's and their hangers, with only the shiniest ships kept in a single hanger that I could not access. Sadly, had I spent more time, I probably could have gotten full access. The hanger I knew had a carrier and some faction ships. Nonetheless, as it turned out, When the opportunity presented itself, I got a friend into the alliance, got him similar rights as I vouched for his pvp abilities, and one night when alliance was mostly offline, we put up our own POS, just a protective bubble, really. We then spent the next two hours ferrying ships out of their 3 POSs and leaving them in space inside ours. One of the leaders logged in as we were just finishing moving ships to see about 3 dozen ships on d-scan and nearly had a heart attack. Then he realized all of the ships had his naming convention and had another. He ended up watching for the rest of the evening as they were powerless to stop us from moving their entire fleet, two ships at a time out of the wormhole. All totaled, we took about 15-18 BN isk worth of ships. Wasn't the best heist, by far, nor the most honorable... But are they ever? What actually made me feel bad was that the alliance leader still wanted to call me a friend afterward. I don't know if it was for fear of retaliation should they try to attack us, or if he really was just that nice a guy. I actually still have him on FB. Eve is a very weird place, socially.

[@ProbablyCoolerThanU]

EVE online has always been the best MMO, I haven't played for over 2 years, but login often to skill queue and more than happy to pay my subscription like-wise.

[@darthdrezz9237]

that was a great story. more tails from EVE would be much appreciated. :)

[@rebelshesus5537]

Darthdrezz Eve never knew about the game until 5 days ago.

[@wuuspigs]

Gareth's looking particularly vascular today. To be saluted.

[@CausticCreations]

tops again guys so glad you covered this amazing story

[@JessehPlaysGames]

I was rading hfc mythic for 9 months Loved the feeling whenever I killed the last boss

[@talon24]

I read about that on reddit, he probibly would have had more fun if he gave up the heist and actually played with the guys. He was clearly good enough to be in their ranks. sorta feel bad for the dude that he could not see that.

[@Flyinghotpocket]

as a 6 year verteran of this game. and fighting tikktok on several occasions. they do not fight with the slightest chance of loosing. when they play they have every advantage and if you even get 1. they are running away.

[@jacksonmartin1481]

I think the hardest part wouldn't be planning it, or the commitment, but would be to form a bond with someone who has you trust, then stabbing them in the back. No way I could do that, takes a lot of dedication.

[@ppsarrakis]

Dedication ? or it needs a fucked up state of mind?, i like tears in eve aswell but i prefer when i just kill em on pvp.... i dont want to know em at all.

[@gearzdesign]

I could never get into Eve, I played the closed beta long ago, and thought it was a neat concept, but I couldn't devote the time to it all. But I always love seeing the stories and events that happen in that game.

[@technomage6736]

Wow, the victim responded with some serious real life class. I tip my hat to you sir!

[@del132]

I love Eve stories. I remember hearing about some Eve betrayal 10-or-so years ago and was blown away by some gamer's dedication to backstabbing. That said, I was also acutely aware that I never wanted to invest in Eve for that very same reason. Now, Star CITIZEN on the other hand...

[@deanoreilly82]

I remember reading about Haargoth taking down BoB years ago, that's the moment I realised Eve was to complicated for me!

[@kreenect]

I always amazed how people play Eve Online, from the drama to epic heist like this. As for my own personal experience playing online games, I got swindled a couple of times and it feel very hurt, esp from someone who you think as your mate or even brother in game but I salute to Tiktok's attitude. I really like the ending where Tiktok got his ship again, I'm still wondering what about the other ships that Samantha got. Did he/she return it again or keep it?

[@seankeen2865]

eve was a crazy game and I wish I had the time to play still because the fun and skill I have learned. and all the fun fights and wars I have started

[@halfnelson6115]

Never heard of this game before. I only play games on my xb1. But after seeing all the attention this heist is getting I think I'll have to buy a pc so I can play this game. It looks like it's far beyond anything available on the xb1.

[@lowrads3653]

I wish we had a moba that was like Homeworld. I want to pilot my own Hiigaran corvette along with a hundred other players while the mothership loosely directs us from one objective to the next.

[@671Tricor]

Back in my Runscape days, I befriended a kid who was a subscriber. We became such good buddies, he convinced his mother to make my account a subscriber. Two years down the line, I quit Runscape. After another two years hiatus, I decided to check my old account... Imagine my surprise when I realized the account was still just the way I left it. With the subscription still being payed.

[@JoranBerserk]

These events makes me want to start playing again...

[@Dj671993]

Now if they became lovers during the events this story would be the greatest thing to come out of eve.

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

This is why I like to call Eve not a game, but a mirror. All the good and bad aspects of humanity can be observed in it. CCP Games even hired a group of social scientists to observe the players' behavior.

[@kevinsugrue]

Not my style of play in Eve, but this stuff happens. It's a very diverse, complex game. Great fun. If you are looking for a corporation of players to join for industry, pve, pvp or trading. Join the Airhogs chat channel in game and get hooked up.

[@angulion]

Eve, awesome game and only one ever where I have done a burnout. Been away many years now, still follow events and kind of would want to return to. Met great people and visited some in other countries, a game like no other. The word Game should be within quotation marks.