This Is Why I HATE My Low Rider ST...

[@2kanchoo]

I can't for the life of me figure out why no one has cornered the market on kickstands for these. Most everyone I've talked to absolutely detest the jiffy stand like I do. I hate how there's no positive lock when fully extended, and how it scrapes the shit out of my garage floor when it does it's slide out.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Yeah it's wild man, and like I said, it's something no one seems to talk about - I think it's fine if someone is always finding themselves parking their bike on a level surface, but the type of riding we do, that's a rare luxury

[@myride7216]

My kickstand failed at 200 miles. I was 30 yards away when it failed. 2k damage. Never in my 30 years of riding have never had this happen.

[@2kanchoo]

@@myride7216 that’s the other thing I’ve seen more than a few people in Facebook groups say they had the jiffy stand bend or snap and drop the bike.

[@FXFBS540]

My biggest deal with the kickstand is they use a e-clip to hold the bushing in. E-clips are fine for rotational components, but when the kickstand slides into the locked position the clip would bind up and pop off, losing your lower bushing. Happened twice, but since then, I've replaced the pivot pin with a shoulder bolt and locknut. It isnt falling off now.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Yeah that has not happened yet, but not the type of thing I would be wanting to field on the side of the road on a long day of miles - Will definitely be looking into your locknut solution, appreciate you sharing man!

[@FXFBS540]

The good news is the factory pin is installed from the top, so if the clip flies off, just the lower bushing falls out. The pin can't come all the way out. It will partially rise up and rub into the primary. You'll feel it putting the stand down, and the kickstand will seem to over extend forwards and out beyond normal.

[@BikesBeardsAndBrews]

When I rode on I hate the stock set up for sitting, I felt like I was a bullfrog, I would definitely need forward controls to ride this one

[@cubicow7561]

Honestly, coming from 10 years of riding Japanese bikes then getting a dyna, the kickstand is one of my favourite parts. I find myself parked off road a lot and on my ninja it was a bit sketchy. But the dyna holds itself up everywhere, it’s great.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I agree man - Especially for the off road situations, was always just a good piece of mind knowing the bike was planted

[@Kevin-s7s]

A dyna isn’t an m8

[@leonyang0524]

I had heard about battery problems before I bought my Harley. So I bought a lithium battery. I have never had any power problems since. Sometimes I won't start the engine for half a month. It still starts normally.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I've experimented with the lithium option years ago, and I actually found it to not be great for the riding I do within the winter - Maybe they've improved

[@vlj1216]

What tank bag is that?

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Biltwell Exfil 2 - Love that thing

[@IAmUltraMAGA]

What tank bag is that? I've been looking for something just like that.

[@SideShowOnTheGo]

I just got my FXLRST broken in. It is an outstanding machine. My kickstand though has a bit of a curve and there’s a heck of a lien on it. I agree about the battery.

[@marvelharris9540]

Agree on the battery.. my only issue with the design of the softail

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Truth - There's got to be a solution

[@dormantmenace]

Lift it up a inch. More lean angle for corners. Better kickstand angle. I've herd lots of people gripe about the battery. Especially if it doesn't get rode regularly. I've herd they drain batteries. Got to run a tender.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Lifting it half an inch with the upgraded suspension, definitely has me wanting for more

[@mk7machinist687]

Le pera kickflip “upfront” with the further forward dimensions fixed the seating position for me. Sdc saddlemen with backrest didn’t even make contact with my back unless I leaned back.

[@sLowRider114.]

To make the battery thing better u can cut the plastic on the positive side so when u take seat off u can get to positive. I did this so if i have to jump my bike its a lot easier. I do have use a screw driver to touch the positive but it definitely beats having take the hole bike apart

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Dude this is an excellent idea - If I find success with this I will definitely be giving you a shoutout!

[@sLowRider114.]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn 🤘🏼😎 yea thats what i did i pulled the plastic piece off and cut the part that covers the positive. U still got take off the side cover to get to negative but its way easier. I have use a screw driver from the top to touch the positive and i clip the red to screw driver to touch the positive. Had jump my bike couple times this was big game changer for me. I can now use a jumper pack with out having operate on bike on the road.

[@cobumo7735]

What size rear tire did you run for the Commander 3? Michelin doesn’t offer the stock size.

[@LJSiar]

If you raise up the rear just like we do with Dynas it will solve most handling and lean angles. When you lift it it will Gangster lean. Battery problems i have not heard of, that sucks. Do you run a drip when parked? A few companies make a daddy long leg seat, at 6'2" i always run those seats. When i ride to Sturgis the extra inch and a half back combined with the Skate bar i run really kicks you back. Great video dude.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I actually changed the rear to Legends which raised it .5 inches, I chose there highest suspension - Might need to go higher than that, because even still, if feels very low to ground for me especially coming from the tall Dyna world

[@LJSiar]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn Oh yeah i get ya. I was up 2 inches on my Dyna Low Rider S

[@hansolea]

I agree with you 100% on all those issues. Specifically the kickstand Jiffy stand. From previously working at a Harley dealer can’t tell you how many times bikes tipped over because either the associate or the customer did not know how to put it on the stand properly.🤘🏽👊🏽

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

For real man! It’s just something I don’t have to worry about if I’m on my Dynas or FXR

[@hansolea]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn I thought taking the battery out of my road. King was a pain in the ass. I’ve done that battery swap on that bike. Damn, what a hassle. But still wanting to add that bike to my garage. By far, the best riding handling bike that Harleys put out since in my opinion, my road king.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AdventuresOfReuben]

What tank mount bag is that?

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

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[@traveller81]

what front turn signals are those? I need to swap out the factory.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Moons MC

[@traveller81]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn thanks bro!

[@Ahhson]

What gauge mount are you using with those Lucky Dave's bars?

[@Konigkev]

I totally agree. I have already laid my bike down just because of a slight incline. I also agree with the battery access it makes it so terrible plus if you add accessories to it, it is a nightmare to hook up.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Yep, I know a few people who have had the bike tip over due to this

[@shaunylee93]

I actually just sold my SDC pro for a saddlemen TOUR step-up seat. pushes you about 3/4" forward compared to the SDC. Also going from a 11" bar and riser height to a 13.5" this winter, hope that positions me where I want to be.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Really?! I wouldn't think the touring step up would change the riding position that drasitcally

[@shaunylee93]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn Yep! worth a shot if you ever get the chance to try one out. I loved the looks of my SDC just didn't love the seating position (this is on a '23 LRST)

[@slayer04031974]

Im actually surprised you don't have a problem with the lack of forward controls for long rides. Plus the frame is too narrow for a true touring seat. Ive seen ppl put Soft tail deluxe touring seats on Slims. And it just doesn't look right. I would avoid leaving the front wheel straight when you are parked. Because of the ability to tip over easy with wind or accidently turning or bumping the bike. Turning the bars to the left to full lock. Will transfer all the weight to the kickstand side.

[@chancehunter3098]

MY GUY. I just bought one Saturday, because of your videos. Then I see this and my heart drops, got me good. Coming from a 2000 DX this kickstand is heaven compared to my sketchy dyna lean.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Dude that’s what’s up! Congrats on one of the best HD’s ever made - As for the kickstand situation, really?! I much prefer the kickstand on my 2001 DX to this shorter one on the ST

[@chancehunter3098]

@FXDLSBrooklyn for some reason the tilt scares me, but I have a dirt driveway 🤣

[@vinnyf6635]

The battery location is a total failure on this. The seating position sucks to if your over 6'. Always felt like the mids were to high and to far back. I couldn't take it anymore my hips were killing. Sourced out 18 and up heritage softail floorboards and controls. It was a game changer after that.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Really? So is it technically forward controls now from that Heritage or does that have forward-mids, I can't remember

[@vinnyf6635]

@FXDLSBrooklyn put my legs lower and forward but not stretched out as if I had ST forward controls. It almost has the feel my RP has.

[@LilWixxy]

What's that shift linkage? Did I miss that in other videos?

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

That’s made by Purpose Built Motorcycles - They should have them on the site - Easy install, definitely something you don’t want going on you

[@LilWixxy]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn cheers mate

[@randytbird6548]

Maybe I missed the video, but why did you go with the Leather pro,s mini saddlebags? I run them on my Dyna and love them but im curious as to why. Randytbird

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I just like having the options, especially for city riding - However, I may be going back to the hard bags at some point, they are also really nice.

[@gregorysoto2513]

I’ve been on a 09 superglide for years commuting from the Jersey shore to NYC for work…I split lanes, ride on the sidewalk, bus lane, bike lane, if it fits it ships…before I sell the dyna and buy a low rider st can I split lanes on it in the city or is it too wide?

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

That's what's up! Yeah dude, you can definitely throw this bike around and split lanes in the city - Is it going to do it as well as a bike with a quarter/t-sport fairing? No. But will it do it? Yes, with no problem.

[@CraigSmith568]

I have a Heritage and the battery only took about 5 minutes to change.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Year?

[@feloniousmonk3049]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn It had to be pre Milwaukee 8. Even the dealership will bone you for 1/2 hour to do a battery change out.

[@mrman487]

Just bend the kickstand forward. It only took me 5 take-offs with the kickstand down to get it bent enough. Or just use heat and respray it. I can't stand the stock speedo, I would change it out for the Lowrider S because it's perfection.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I actually don't really mind the speedo anymore, although a dual gauge setup is always my preference

[@theoldmanflynchmotovlog4846]

I recently set on a friend's FXR, I'd forgotten how it was the perfect aggressive yet able to tour seating position. Of course, even with the Lowrider S/ST being their performance model, theyre building it for comfort for the masses that won't use it as G_D and Arthur Davidson intended.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Every time I sit on my FXR the world is just right.

[@Ten_Mil_Will]

I dare say the hidden battery BS is a deal killer for me (I'm trying to make that SG, RG, LR ST choice). Something u said landed weird tho - I have a 2013 Dyna with mid controls. I sat on the Lowrider ST (never rode it) and thought just the opposite. Compared to my "lounge chair" Dyna, that ST was borderline sportbike. My feet were too close, my knees were too high (and I'm not a tall guy). The bike felt way more upright and less laid back. Seemed fun for some twisteez but didn't seem like an all dayer at all. (Maybe because my Dyna is lowered and I have a Saddleman?)

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Dude it's so weird, because I have a friend that also feels like he is bunched up seating position-wise as compared to the dyna - Not sure man, for me I just feel way more like I'm sitting back into the bike as opposed to the Dyna/FXR life - The good news, is there are many solutions to this

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Find a 2018- 2021 Sport Glide with forward pegs.

[@NYCZ31]

Who did you get to install your cam? I'm at the point where its time to do that on my LRS and I live in NYC. I also want to 2-1 exhaust that isn't too loud

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Find a used 2-1 exhaust off of a Sport Glide. Quiet and cheap.

[@ronnytavarez1140]

New seat??

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Stay tuned : )

[@Mikey_556]

Same goes for newer touring. I have aftermarket suspension which puts it 1" over so it leans a bit more but yea some of em look like they will just roll away 😂

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Truth - I haven't noticed it on the new touring models, I'll have to pay attention next time I throw a leg over

[@bobbyromo69]

it’s funny i actually felt very crammed on my stomach and had to go to forward controls but everyone is different

[@GearHeadMoto]

I have sat one a few different Low Rider ST from having aftermarket bars and seats to test riding a stock one. In stock form these are terrible as far as comfort goes. Even with taller bars and saddleman seat I personally still felt like I was cramped up. Maybe I'm just used to my 93,000 mile Dyna that I've built to fit me.

[@DanielDraper-ki4hr]

I had a 2020 Lowrider S, worst kick stand ever. Dropped it twice because of the kickstand. Never had any problems with my 06 Night Train, 09 Fat Bob, 2021 Sport Glide, or my 2023 Heritage.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

@@DanielDraper-ki4hr truth

[@paulmears-l7v]

Your bars are straight you have to turn them completely to the left for the bike to sit properly that’s why the bike locks on the right side

[@JSpool1]

The battery on the fxxbs is the same shit so it's a harley thing now lol

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Truth

[@geeeee8268]

the way pegs setup is a bit funny to me. I am 5.10 and pegs sit waaaay too high. Yes, they further out, but that I actually like. But for my liking pegs should be at least an inch or two lower.

[@RogueCheddar]

Me and my stunning 2019 Indian Springfield... (Munching popcorn) More cheese, Gromit!

[@Zynked]

how annoying is this for a daily rider? 🤔 is it worth it ? even if you dont do long road trips? 🙏🏼

[@Zynked]

and by “this” i mean the entire motorcycle. never owned a harley, and this is what im looking at for 2025. 📝

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I would say this is one of the most versatile HDs

[@djking44151]

That seat looks legit af

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Tried & True

[@tankermike99]

73k miles in the past 3.5 years, including a 3400 mile weekend last month and I've never touched my battery on the road. What are you doing that you're messing with your battery that much?

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

I think you should say "bike" in your videos more.

[@danielbilbay1849]

They do not use kickstand they use jiffy stands that the weight of bike keep them from being knocked over completely incorrect information about parking on incline.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I was referring to the factory stand, but yeah, jiffy stands are the way to go

[@vincentmcclain9307]

My problem is 27k for the price when you could own a RoadGlide

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

You're not wrong - I gave that new Road Glide a fantastic review, they really did knock it out of the park with that bike

[@turtle19dad]

Sounds like a hell of a dealer markup. They love doing that. I went to a dealer a month or so ago and they wanted $29K for a 23 Heritage!!!! I’ll keep my Honda. Unless I can get to Laidlaws.

[@johnbrock890]

That's weird my low rider leans just as much as my dyna if not more

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I think capabilities in curves, the ST actually probably does better, it's just less ground clearance

[@travelinben1966]

The lack of proper instrumentation/gauges,put me off about it.

[@wolfganghellmann8541]

You think getting to that battery is a pain in the ass? Have you tried to get to the battery on your Pan America? You have to lay on the floor. You have to ask what the hell Harley is thinking. Ride safe.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Yeah this is good to know man! That Pan America is about to be getting some serious miles in a few weeks ⚡️

[@Tk1947]

Hate the lil girl leather pros. Thats the only thing wrong with video summery over

[@Sodiumfreeriding]

Turn your wheel to the left and the bike settles down to the left. Just a little bit finagling. if you didn’t know that, doubt you need to get to your battery when riding it.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Also twisting the trottle gives the bike power too 🙃

[@Sodiumfreeriding]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn yup! I have the same bike, it rips. But it also leans over quite far when ya turn the wheel

[@gatekeeperoffroad]

I havent noticed that actually....my buddy with a regular soft tail sits straight up... not sure what year you LRST is but my 23' leans like a muther F$#ker.

[@BobbyMiller3]

Lrst Moto camping solution.... Get a Pan America, too 😂

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Oh, I've already done that #NOREGRETS

[@BobbyMiller3]

@@FXDLSBrooklyn Pan America kickstand will have some wonk depending on where the adaptive ride height settled. I just use the center stand 🤘

[@trollingthunder152]

6 months ago, "how i made my FXLRST perfect!", 4 months later "This is why i hate my FXLRST". for fucks sake.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Oh you're going to love the next one, stay tuned 🙃

[@feloniousmonk3049]

I finally had to change out the battery on my 2018 Sport Glide after 6 good years of use, and it was the direct predecessor to the LRS and LRST, and it was a MoFo to get in and out and with that plastic shit all around it holding it into place. Dumbest design ever, Harley Davidson.

[@gerthilmersen6187]

There is no problem with the kickstand. Then it is on the kickstand turn the handlebars to right and when left, do it one or too times and the bike go more down too the side.

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

I don't know if I would go as far to call it a problem as much as I think it would comedown to my preferences as a rider - If you read through the comments, there's a few people who also agree, including a head tech from a HD dealership

[@JustinRueo]

Perez Helen Hall Jason Harris Sharon

[@LyttonDominic-s5l]

Rodriguez Joseph Hall George Clark Frank

[@ObadiahCorey-u7y]

Gonzalez Ruth Martin John Brown Edward

[@ChrisVanMiddelkoop]

That's just because you have that dumb fairing and bags on there. Lol

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

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[@KennyQuestShow]

@@FXDLSBrooklynperfect reply to non sense comments that keeps the algo happy. I am borrowing this technique

[@Paul20661]

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

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