THIS is Why RB Leipzig Is Most Hated Club in Germany

[@jonasmwatange6948]

RB Leipzig is every FM manager's dream save

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Island Packers People Drowning

[@EisernRob]

Germans hate Red Bull for circumventing the 50+1 to market their product. In Germany clubs are owned in the majority by the fans, this makes Red Bull different to the rest of the league. Reading the comments it feels like this video is pointless. Germans want to belong to their clubs and have a say in how they’re run (50+1), fans don’t want THEIR clubs run by businesses or rich foreign owners like everywhere else in the world

[@bungeespeaks6081]

Cap...the cartel clubs and their fans are crying they are finally getting competition

[@EisernRob]

@@bungeespeaks6081 like I said, clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, you’re obviously not German

[@Overlorde79]

@@EisernRob not everywhere else, the biggest clubs in Portugal and Spain have the same system that the German clubs.

[@EisernRob]

@Matumbo Mbata are u high? Sponsors and owners are two different things. 75% of Bayern is owned by the members/members own at least 51% of the their club in Germany. If u don’t know what ur talking about at least google the basics...

[@tarikfretes7562]

@Matumbo Mbata yes but they are still not the owners. They are just kind of sponsors. Hoffenheim do this because he love the club. Not because he wants to make the with it. But i agree with bvb. But that doseng change the fact that the club still stNds on his own feets. Not like man city psg or many other clubs.

[@maxsibsjnr]

Red Bull: *Buys Newcastle Red Bull: *changes name to RB James Red Bull: changes stadium to St. RB Park

[@richardsibi3150]

😂

[@starkermann8119]

Can anyone explain that? I'm not into English football

[@prabalbhardwaj1829]

@@starkermann8119 Red Bull bought a small leipzig club which does not represent the city at all in 2009 or 10 , so as speculation suggests they want to invest huge amount of money in newcastle club of england to influence as same as they did in there and austria ( RB salzburg ) Racing bulls -- Rasensport *insert club name*

[@Christisking-w5v]

When did Red Bull Buy Newcastle

[@sinramj865]

@@Christisking-w5v BRUH

[@franciscoferreira4626]

So they basically SMURFED on the lower leagues, got it

[@swedish_james]

RB LEIPZIG is like that squad you are given when you install DREAM LEAGUE SOCCER you rise in every season 😂😂😂😂🔥🇰🇪

[@clintonklintkingping9542]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@deandrewilliams3294]

For real or when you.play the cheated version you just buy any damn player you want young or old................................................................................................maybe shouldn't have said that 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[@ah21111988]

I respect the 50+1 rule it's what the german football fans want. But let's be honest with that rule it'll almost impossible to see any german team challenge Bayern for the title.

[@lordoflocks8811]

It's not the rule. It's the destribution of tv money

[@ah21111988]

@@lordoflocks8811 if you remove the rule foregn investors will invest in the league the more they invest the more competition and stars will stay at Bundesliga. More competition = higher views = more money for everyone. It's all connected.

[@lordoflocks8811]

@@ah21111988 but why on earth should somebody invest in the bundesliga when there is the premier league or la liga? Okay, maybe Bayern, Dortmund and Frankfurt get investors, but the rest wouldn't it would be more fair than before. Better tv money destribution on the other hand would create more even distributed conditions without getting a playground for investors and a tool for whitewashing...

[@ah21111988]

@@lordoflocks8811 in the 90's Serie a were dominating but they didn't adapt to changes like the EPL. Bundesliga don't get big tv money deals because of the lack of competition. I live in the middle east we didn't even have a tv broadcaster for the last 2-3 seasons because no one is interested in the league if the competition is dead. imo Bundesliga have the best stadiums, fans in Europe with the premier league. They should follow the EPL module.

[@lordoflocks8811]

@@ah21111988 first of. We have the best fans because the fans have something to say and therefore keep it affordable. And it's not about the tv money itself, it's about the distribution of the tv money. The best ones get to much of the share, therefore are able to buy the runner ups best players. Then there is the champions league money which catalysed that process. It makes the rich clubs even richer. There is a reason why since the 90s basically the same clubs won the champions league. And it's true, you can buy competition, but there are not much oil countries/business men left, who want a white wash. And if you want a white wash you don't choose the bundesliga with its pesky fans and a mother tongue nobody else speaks...

[@ivanrado3430]

So Red bull took a club in 5th division who probably had prospect but no ambition to get higher then 4th division. They put in the money, build the structure, give more people jobs, over 7y they got into the 1st division, made their name in their own Bundesliga and in CL. Produced talents, they have young squad, young coach, they are not spending too much on the market like PSG, Man City or other clubs, they made more jobs for people, kids have one more option to go an train football, one more team to give Bayern Munich run for their money etc etc. They did more good then bad. PSG and Man City is the problem in modern football. This is for me an ownership who is doing great job. They didn't splash 250m on Neymar or spend over 1-2b on whole team like Man City. This shouldn't be an issue. I think fans are just jealous because this ownership is actually doing things how it should have been done. SO4, Wolfsburg, Werder... this teams were once proud German clubs, now we see nothing but monopolistic Bayern or Dortumnd who struggles with everything...

[@bungeespeaks6081]

Man city have spent the least money of the top 20 teams in the world..you're just a stupid bias person

[@ivanrado3430]

@@bungeespeaks6081 www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportbible.com/football/transfers-the-top-25-highest-spending-clubs-in-the-last-decade-20191220.amp.html are you sure about that bro?

[@JohnDoe-dn9ez]

Couldn't agree more

[@bungeespeaks6081]

@@ivanrado3430 I'm talking about all throughout history dumbass

[@ivanrado3430]

@@bungeespeaks6081 just shut the fuck up. Man City don't even have some history like top 20 clubs. Not to mention they were not on the map until money came in and they are spending the most out of the all clubs. Go watch ballet.

[@Rihaad8]

Great coverage. The only thing that was missing are imo the shady transfer deals with RB Salzburg. There were even inspections by the UEFA afaik. They get at least one of the best Salzburg players every transfer period without having to pay much. E.g. an offer for Hwang by another club was declined by Salzburg and jet they sold him for less than half of the other bid to RB Leipzig.

[@Rihaad8]

But you have to keep the financial fair play in mind. If Leipzig would pay more they'd need to keep their income balanced. Same goes for Salzburg. If they'd get less actions on the transfer market would be more difficult in the future.

[@Rihaad8]

Afaik it's related to the turnover in a specific timespan but I could be wrong there

[@deandrewilliams3294]

Yh that's kind of suspicious glad My team Barca held firm unto not letting Moriba go to them for anything less than 15 milli

[@Vebian]

what they do is not against any rules AFAIK, any football clubs can approve/reject any transfer offers from a certain clubs as long as its not violate the player contracts

[@Rihaad8]

@@Vebian the video is about why it is the most hated, not the most illegal club tho

[@vicePVic]

Well they are the most loved German club in Hungary that is for sure...

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Obviously, it belongs to their money laundering moguls

[@tarikfretes7562]

Its not a club for football fans. Its just built to make promo for red bull.

[@xiamsmobie6972]

Of course its for promoting Red Bull but there are Fans and there is no doubt about that

[@lebelge8669]

@@xiamsmobie6972 Rb fans are people living in Leipzig

[@CreditGino]

No I live in America and I like Leipzig 😂

[@minisurfbanana]

So whats the difference Jeep paying Juve or Cheverlot pay Man U emirites paying Real Madrid?

[@tarikfretes7562]

@@minisurfbanana because they havent the names of the company in the club name.

[@kingfayaiz44]

Let's be kind This was the team which has no history... It was in the 5th division in 2010 but now they are fighting for Bundesliga..

[@depatron6859]

Leipzig is getting stronger and stronger

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Be kind 😂😂 Good to buy your place in the league

[@JOn87_STRONG]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 be kind once again.

[@jj4485-o5o]

Yeah and? Still not a real football club

[@DriverKIT]

What they forget to say is, that they also took advantage of Chemie Leipzig, a traditional Club which happened to loose it's successful position and was relegated into the 4th division. In a precarious financial situation for Chemie, RB just bought several youth teams of Chemie Leipzig to be allowed to play in the professional leagues. There is also a rule that defines that a club needs to raise youth players to be able to play in the professional leagues. Another rule RB just bent for it's own purpose.

[@Q-hv2cb]

Chemie Leipzig is just 10 years older than RB Leipzig. "Traditional Club" 😂😂 But isn't it a good thing for the Youth to get access to top equipment and training programm? What's so bad about that? Forcing the political nature of Chemie Leipzig onto the Youth is also not the healthiest thing. It's not always easy to separate sports and politics, but RB does a way better job with it than Chemie Leipzig does.

[@DriverKIT]

@@Q-hv2cb Chemie was founded in 1950, just because they dissappeared for a while and had to be refounded doesn't mean they have as little tradition as RB. The opposite is the case. In my eyes professional football training as it is done for youth is not a good thing. Young players learn to play football but hardly anything else. They are also under brutal performance pressure. That's not a good thing for character development. Regarding the politics of Chemie: I think that the separation of football and politics is like in any other field in society - a hoax. And RB Leipzig is the best example for that: It is a capitalist club, a toy of a billionaire that - luckily - died, which should not even exist in the eyes of many. It is a highly political question. Also I think political organization for the interests of humanity and working class is a good thing which makes Chemie even more sympathetic to me. I wish my favorite club would be that political.

[@okochiigwe222]

Thanks for educating us

[@nightwatchmd]

They might be hated by some fans in Germany. But they have a great academy and a reasonable transfer policy. This makes them way more likable than ManCity or PSG

[@osamasflugschule4130]

You mean they steal every good player from Salzburg?

[@nightwatchmd]

@@osamasflugschule4130 Oh boy...! Yes, they drive in an unmarked van every night around the Salzburg stadium to claim the latest player for themselves. Are you aware that both clubs belong to the same company and that this "exchange" of players is meant to happen?

[@osamasflugschule4130]

@@nightwatchmd And you know that something like this is not allowed?

[@chris7477]

Osamas Flugschule that’s why they pay to transfer them over just to get bought by bigger clubs so chill on RB because your club probably has Dayot Upamecano on there dream transfer list like everyone else

[@DriverKIT]

@@nightwatchmd What they do is very comparable to your hyperbole: There is an interview that happened 4 years ago with Marcel Sabitzer, a former RB Salzburg player, who clearly states, that he doesn't wanna transfer to RB Leipzig. Weeks later he was an RB Leipzig player. Players are forced to transfer to Leipzig. Also this farming club bullshit isn't even legal, it is far away from any financial fair play.

[@chhmo9851]

0:00 Borüssia Dortmund und 0:29 die bullen Roten, wer kennt sie nicht😂

[@remdy3839]

Diese doofen Bullen roten

[@darthzannah8900]

Und Engländer machen sich über unsere Aussprache Lustig 😂😂 Kennt Ihr nicht auch die Brättwörst oder Wollkswägen ?

[@kingaoe1235]

RB Leipzig does not represent Leipzig it represents Red Bull. RB Leipzig was not created for the fans it was created to sell energy drinks. RB Leipzig is not a club but a advertisement. 50+1 keeps German football great, it does not stand in the way of competition. RB Leipzig should not exist

[@dark3rthanshadows]

they already have franchize teams. Redbull New York and Red Bull brasil. imagina the future, filled with brand teams... I don't get how german football allowed that shit

[@nagatubimaru]

@@dark3rthanshadows Because they found a loophole and said the RB doesnt stand for Ree Bull but for "Rasenballsport", even though everyone knows what it really stands for

[@dark3rthanshadows]

@@nagatubimaru i know but that's a loophole like WWE "don't try this at home "

[@nagatubimaru]

@@dark3rthanshadows I used to do the Wrestling Moves all the time with my brother 😂 He was an Orton and I was a CM Punk Fan..

[@chhmo9851]

It does represent Leipzig very well, the city is very glad and proud to have a top flight family friendly club in their city. I agree that RBL was made to sell the energy drink on the one hand, but it was also made to make football a big thing in Saxony / east Germany, since it has no club which plays international and is only known for it's right wing hooligans. Red Bull separates itself more and more to make RBL a normal club just with the Red Bull sponsoring.

[@depatron6859]

peoples hate rb clubs but dont know that : haaland , kimmich , werner , keita , sadio mane , konate and upamecano came from there🤫

[@bossolini2560]

@UCEp9vmTk0syBQ0ujDypOVxQ boy stfu you have no clue bout anything

[@lukashradecky5492]

So what? Talented players can come from any club. Did Mateschitz pay you to say bullshit?

[@footplusballid2470]

@@lukashradecky5492 the orientations are different on each club

[@julek4248]

@@nawfynajeem Dortmund and Paris are doing the same

[@Khamûl0fTheEast]

i know that....and now ? salzburg and leipzig are still dirt on the floor and belong in the trash 🚮

[@Stringbean670]

I still don't get how Leipzig could be hated more than bayern, who treat the whole league like their academy and constantly poach all the best talent from their rivals at the last minute of transfer windows so they can't find replacements. The 50+1 rule is intended to help ensure some competitive balance, but clearly Bayern have managed to break the system.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Bayern belongs to the fans. RB Leipzig belongs to money laundering moghals. Leipzig already had a football team before Redbull Leipzig. It's called Lokomotive Leipzig. Football is all passion for Germans and not some money laundering business

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Also Bayern Munich have abides by the rules. Audi, Allianz and few company together just hold only about 20% share of Bayern. The rest belongs to the fans

[@Stringbean670]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 Yes. Abiding by a rule system that is custom tailored to benefit them.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

@@Stringbean670 dude they are one of the richest teams in the world, what do you expect?

[@Stringbean670]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 Bro you literally just said that RB Leipzig belongs to money launderers and that "football is all passion for Germans and not some money laundering business". You can't say that and then flip around and say "well it's ok when Bayern does it". And yes, while I do understand the frustration with the way RB has skirted around the 50+1 rule, it is also clear that the 50+1 rule hasn't done anything to make the league competitive. Plus, on the global stage, there are WAY sketchier owners than Red Bull (any team owned by an Arab oil state).

[@SportSkillWonder]

I don;t hate Leipzig Love their games, way more than M'gladbach or Wolfsburg. It was nothing about red bulldrink. they just brought money and signed young players found through thorough scouting. it was capitalism and they knew how to build a business.c. they made facilities with recovery, Strength Facilities for players, and they did it in a professional way, SO what the hell is the problem. only the envious say they hate them .

[@lionkingflo6355]

Yes their professional club business is good. But the problem for many people is their marketing strategy to present the drink Redbull. They main focus is not the football, it's because of the marketing presentation. RB Leipzig is one of the 5 clubs which are owned by Redbull and they are connected together.

[@jamie_sg]

The thing is I don't actually think anyone supports Leipzig, they are such a new club to fame, they literally, and I mean literally have no history. If I was a supporter of this side before the Red Bull days, I would've stopped supporting them after the takeover, it would be like supporting a completely different team.

[@renekupfer5393]

the Problem for the Haters is RB overwellm their teams very quickly

[@truipevo8814]

I respect your opinion but just go to hell, is bedder bayern carrying the bundesliga than having rb salzburg vs "rasenballsport (i cant believe the dfl agreed to this)" leipzig in the champions league Dynamo dresden should be at this spot if they wouldn't suffer from bad management or right wing hooligans... Fun fact, bvb fans are right wi...forget it :D

[@nls_cdn1023]

NEVER compare Mönchengladbach to Red Bull Leipzig again. Are you out of your fucking mind ???

[@Demi_Yamato]

In every GAME against Rb Leipzig and Rb Salzburg in austria, the other fans singing,, ALLE BULLEN SIND SCHWEINE"

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

I just hope it is true

[@decgar07]

From an outsider’s perspective German football is difficult to get into for the simple reason it’s not entertaining seeing Bayern win the league every season. From that perspective it’s refreshing to see a team genuinely challenge that. However, it’s easy to see from this video why people hate Leipzig. No one wants to see such a blatant example of advertising and product placement being successful in sport 11 years after it’s creation as a football club. It would though be good to see German football actually be genuinely competitive without compromising the values the fans have.

[@genschyy]

See, that's the difference. We don't see football as entertainment, we see it as passion, love and family. The team I support is fighting against relegation, the other team I really liked just failed to get promoted from the 4th division. The majority of german football fans, no matter if they support Schalke, Frankfurt, Gladbach, Hamburg, Nürnberg, Dresden, Rostock or Essen doesn't give a f*ck about who will become champion. Why would they? All that's important for them is their own team. They love their team, loved it as kids, when they for the first time visited their stadium with their fathers. Their fathers stood there back in their youth, maybe the 70's or 80's, experienced some of the most legendary matches in the club's history, some european matches against giants like Liverpool or Barcelona. He passes on his love for the team to his son, just as he iherited it from the boys grandfather, who visited the games when he was young, right after World War II when they had nothing else. All they dream about is to see just another top tier match with their team. But with the years it becomes harder and harder to come back, because of these plastic clubs like Leipzig, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, because they simply "block" spots for the other teams with big history. Surely they made it with good work, but also with way more money than the other teams have. Do you understand, why we hate Leipzig? We have a different view on football. Maybe it's not as entertaining as in other countries. But it's more passionate. And that's why we love the sports.

[@EisernRob]

Even out TV money distribution like in EPL, problem solved.

[@decgar07]

@@genschyy some really good points here and I love how family and community oriented the German model of football is. Your perspective on this has really interested me. I personally don't know the ins and outs of this league and I'm going to start following the Bundesliga properly this season. Was not aware that Leverkusen, Hoffenheim etc were viewed as plastic clubs by some either. Does it not genuinely bother you though seeing Bayern dominate the league year in year out with not much hope of Dortmund or even Leipzig catching them? I mean without a ball even being kicked its safe to say Bayern will probably win the Bundesliga this season although I hope they don't. It just seems to be that there's a lack of genuine competition there at the very top and it's not going to change anytime soon.

[@Ones_Complement]

I do.

[@Special852491]

RB Leizpig has no Fans, they have customers. Love football, hate RB!

[@Hachiae]

cry more

[@tonykuz]

@@Hachiae found the customer

[@DoctorKamasutra]

schwachkopp

[@susamogus5693]

İ am a fan. Their play is attractive and they got far without any really great players. Also everyone says they Just bought good players to get where they are now. If that's the case name 3 really good and really famous players that everyone in Germany knows about. They're not fucking manchester city calm down

[@imma10200]

@@susamogus5693 Werner but technically he doesn’t play for them anymore so I guess sabitzer or upamecano

[@voolian]

50+1 is the reason Dortmund hasn’t dominated European Football over the last Decade

[@bhaveshdhirwani3140]

Isn't bayern following the same 50+1 rule?

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

@@bhaveshdhirwani3140 it is

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Dortmund is more like a factory for players. And for good reasons too, you need bug money to compete, which teams like Munich have and black money like RB Leipzig. Dortmund still are a dominant force.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Football for you is entertainment. Here in Germany it's tradition and passion for the game, not some playground for capitalists to launder their money. It's a game for everyone, accessible to everyone and make them feel part of the game. Unlike rEdbull Leipzig which only cares about money and not people who support them

[@voolian]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 football is entertainment for everyone, it’s not necessary for survival. i can’t grasp the mentality of someone who thinks they have the right to make decisions in a business that’s not their own. But i guess i can’t expect much from the country who was fooled by Hitler

[@2011SoxMD36]

This extends to hockey as well. RB bought EHC München and turned them into a plastic giant hated league wide

[@kenwardkgarg]

As a MCFC fan, I see your point but I can't help think the "hate" is blatant hypocrisy from the dubious and corrupt establishment which includes Bayern Munich.

[@Paulkuriansunny]

All i see are empty seats 🤣

[@kenwardkgarg]

@@Paulkuriansunny That's because you're a bellend.

[@Paulkuriansunny]

@@kenwardkgarg do visit Elland Road once in a while, Wilson might show ya around.

[@Nutty_Ba11s]

yeah, empty seat in Leipzig stadium just like in Etihad stadium lol

[@leoperez5381]

Keep up the great work this channel is amazing

[@1999deshan]

As a non German I really don't see the problem, every club around the world in the biggest leagues all have big investors and that's how they stay competitive and I see no problem with what RB are doing..... Yeah what they are doing might be looked down upon but Id rather see the German league become more competitive and not just be a boring league dominated by one team... Yes the log might fluctuate but at the end its always bayern on top which is extremely off putting from an outsiders point of view

[@genschyy]

Exactly, but we, the Germans, don't care about the race for league title. The big majority doesn't give a f*ck about it. They care about their own team that's fighting against relegation, fighting for promotion or even is a mid table team in the 4th division. Of course, foreigners don't care, I don't wanna blame you for that. But we do.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

You are a outsiders. Just remember that

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Just watch another league I beg u fck off

[@Khamûl0fTheEast]

nobody cares about the title, we live and die with our teams....rb is dirt on the floor, they took a slot in the buli that couldve belonged to a nice traditional club like nürnberg or the hsv. instead we have this piece of dirt in our league. NUR DER BVB 🖤💛

[@Q-hv2cb]

​@@Khamûl0fTheEastthat's a skill issue. They had all the money in the world, but couldn't manage it well and decided to burn it. They're right where they belong, if they can't even compete with village clubs

[@tahas8261]

I think dortmund have 154k members as of last August not 1.4 million like you said

[@christianbuche9244]

Actually, RB Leipzig is not the first club to sneak around the prohibition of sponsors in the name of clubs. A couple of years back, there was a club called Leichtathletik Rasensport Ahlen, LR Ahlen for short. Why LR in their name? Because of their sponsor, LR International (the letters L and R in the LR Ahlen logo even had the shape as in the LR International logo, but the club colors of LR Ahlen are different from the colors in the LR International corporate design).

[@Rasenballsport09]

SSV Markranstädt is still existing. RB just bought their starting license.

[@jediknight5600]

"Ive got a great idea. Lets all sell Bayern our best players - at discount prices - not get market value for the players we develop, help Bayern to crush us all and win the League 100 years in a row, whilst simultaneously hating on Leipzig and Hoffenheim - for daring to spend money and welcome investment to try to compete" German mindset ☝️

[@silckyslide6195]

I never knew they were hated

[@bungeespeaks6081]

They are hated because they are east german

[@lionkingflo6355]

@@bungeespeaks6081 no that's not the reason

[@monkey.dluffy4063]

They r hated couse They just a marketing product

[@DriverKIT]

They're very much hated by everyone! What they forgot to say is, that they also took advantage of Chemie Leipzig, a traditional Club which happened to loose it's successful position and was relegated into the 4th division. In a precarious financial situation for Chemie, RB just bought several youth teams of Chemie Leipzig to be allowed to play in the professional leagues. There is also a rule that defines that a club needs to raise youth players to be able to play in the professional leagues. Another rule RB just bent for it's own purpose.

[@truechaosmulala3831]

@@bungeespeaks6081 you really are dumb lmao looking at your comments on this video they all are wrong lmao

[@mrwashiwashy]

Fans hate the team but buy Leipzig players. Upamecano comes to mind

[@Foog123]

The players aren’t the problem

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

@@Foog123 the team ownership and it's history is

[@renevelation6586]

We do not necessarily hate the team but we hate the club.

[@davidbroadley126]

Come on rb leipzeig tonight hammer rangers tonight celtic fans are behind you

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Embarassing ape

[@Youngcarter354]

I’m liking RB Leipzig the more I found out about them hopefully they can conquer Germany

[@julek4248]

Nope

[@Khamûl0fTheEast]

schmutz

[@brettdavidson9837]

What happened to Markranstadt FC ??

[@heinzketchup2142]

Only ketchup

[@aurorahenelius3481]

Quality is to a product what character is to a man

[@peterweiss123]

Perfect summary! Thx ! Not to RedBull!

[@JW_PUNK29]

Wolfsburg, Bayer Leverkusan and Hoffenheim aren't fan owned

[@Qwerty-be5rh]

Also hated

[@EisernRob]

Wolfsburg and Bayer were founded by the factory workers of the company they worked for. No other club in Germany is owned by a foreign company who doesn’t give a toss about the city the club is in (Leipzig was no where near first choice city for Red Bull)

[@mauricepeet3796]

I didnt know that, but now i hate them to

[@Super_Gamer538]

i love them

[@didin_clach_fell_good4208]

Same

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Good job. They are cancer

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

​@@Super_Gamer538 I cant believe that we share the same name. Im ashamed

[@JoshPhilp]

i actuall quitte like the red bull model

[@oslomapping]

1:37 2:10 2:21 stolen from vanemas

[@moze2234]

still my favourite team to manage in FM🫣

[@MrDjambronk]

RB Leipzig has fans?

[@Flutschfingerbaron]

Customer not fans!

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Plastic cups. Their stands are very polluted.

[@indianfortniter1464]

Whatever it is they genuinely grow talent not like PSG . Harvetz timo upencomto kimmich etc . They invest a lot in talent not go buy all established talent . My thoughts 👍.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Most are young and they had a good coach at the beginning. That's the end of their story.

[@lordoflocks8811]

they do buy the talents after all...

[@NanobanaKinako]

I'm from 2076 and Google Anderlecht is now Europe's most hated club.

[@MarkLaw13]

What happened here 8:32?

[@DriverKIT]

A Dynamo Dresden Fan chanting "Scheiß RB" if my lip reading skills are on point

[@weezy8873]

You could've also meantioned the controversity beeing, that actually another Club exists in the first League "Bayer 04 Leverkusen" that also has a Brand name in it's Title (Bayer, known pharmaceutical Company based in Leverkusen), while no one seems to have anything against that.

[@lennartj5356]

because it was founded in 1904 by the bayer workers to play football themselves. rb leipzig was created just to simply promote redbull. on top leverkusen fulfills the 50+1 rule and is owned by their fans in comparison to rb who have 17 members in their club and dont allow new members.

[@weezy8873]

@@lennartj5356 so? It has the Companys Name and Logo on its own. Makes no difference to me.

[@lennartj5356]

@@weezy8873 do you know about the 50+1 rule? If not please google it. The point is that Leverkusen is owned by their fans and RedBull has 17 members who controll the club, whilst Leverkusen is owned by its fans, which it has to be in Germany

[@weezy8873]

@@lennartj5356 I'm aware of that rule and can accept that RB get's hate and legal issues cause of it. But still you digress. Probably should've made it clearer that my issue with this all is, that the DFL blocked RB from using any Red Bull branding (wich if i'm honest i actually prefer anyway) BUT at the same time it's totally fine for Leverkusen to do just that for "Tradition" reasons.. I don't care that it was a workers club originally and that is was founded in 1904. Cannot punish one club for something that another club can do.. Sorry for my bad English.

[@truechaosmulala3831]

@@weezy8873 well bayer was created more then a hundred years ago quess what before the Bundesliga was created so the Bundesliga had no right to force them since they are older then the Bundesliga unlike Leipzig which is rb marketing club

[@iltonnotattico6231]

I think it's worth noting that at least with RB Leipzig you can just look at the club and see exactly who owns them, you can't just look at Chelsea and see that (until recently) they're owned by a Russian oligarch

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

And?

[@jintsfan]

Scotsman \ Briton speaking. Have to laugh at Gladbach fans alleged 19 minute silence to make a point or Leipzig. Who’s kidding who here ?

[@beaconing7689]

i don't like RB Leipzip because who the f*ck wants their club name and logo turn into can drink ??

[@shunsukenakamura10]

O RB bragantino é o mais odiado do Brasil 🇧🇷🇩🇪

[@tebogomohanoe5443]

there needs to be more competition in the league

[@Davinhomx]

Last time I checked Bayern won the CL against a french club and Leipzig was in the semifinals while man city was kicked out by another french club name lyon. So we where left with ZERO premier league clubs in the seminfinals of CL even. I'd say fucked by "farmersleagues" and dare you to overthink what you are sayin. It is simple. Munich is the best runned club world wide. They would dominate the PL just like they dominate the bundesliga. They scored a combined 12 goals against two of spains too 3 teams the last games. Dude. PL wouldn't be comoetishion for them either. While btw. Your top tier clubs getting aswhooped by clubs like aston villa and leeds united rn hahaha. So CL wont look brighter in the future for you

[@Davinhomx]

@@vincentproductions8963 ?

[@r3zaful]

Lets not forget all english final in 2018 Premier league so far is the most stable and consistent league in europe, money does work, italy need 10 years to even slightly bounce back to its former glory, i can see this happens to barcelona and real but premier league is almost impossible to shake, literally the most broadcasted league in the world, and its a lot of money.

[@powerllesss2672]

@@Davinhomx did he say he was a pl fan

[@Davinhomx]

@@powerllesss2672 huh?

[@bertieyoung3827]

Playing the most hated club in Scotland bring on the hatefest and I hope RB wipe the floor with Scotlands shame.

[@adampattison7264]

Hahahahaha get it right up ye

[@KenDaKingArrives]

I read plenty about how much Leipzig is hated by some in Germany. But I still don't understand it, it may not be the German way to exist in the form that they do, but it's a more Business-like existence, and it's real life everywhere else in the world. Billionaires and companies own sports clubs. Germany is different in this way because of their 50+1 rule.

[@steve.436]

To be fair. The Football that RB plays is really good. But they don't have any culture, any history. They are just promoting really that product. But again, Football and Business is well done in Leipzig. It just doesn't fit to the way we Germans like our Football. There is no heart and passion.

[@KenDaKingArrives]

@@steve.436 Thanks for the reply. Well, you have to leave that to the players and fans that they do have. The club exists as it is and I don't know how the German masses can force them to change that. Culture? I think the club's corporate background and their squad's style of football representing their company's motto or objective counts towards that. It's different from what you know and like, but all the same. History? I know the league was formed long ago, but there can be such as thing as NEW teams emerging and achieving great things, which Leipzig has been doing. History can be made, and rewritten, and the masses must acknowledge this, to do otherwise is disingenuous. Regardless of their representation Leipzig is still a football club and the players are not just corporate machines. Although it is difficult to accept new things in the old continent, not everything can revolve around history. From my point of view from a mainly progressive culture above all, the rejection is unnecessary, with all due respect.

[@bungeespeaks6081]

@@steve.436 I have seen more liepzig fans more passionate than your shit schalke

[@breznsalzer7323]

@@KenDaKingArrives the thing is that the Bundesliga is known for its exceptional fan culture and lack of investor owned clubs. This is the one big selling point the Bundesliga has in contrary to the other European leagues. Thats why there is a set of rules to safeguard this status quo (still there are exceptions for historical company teams and long term financial supporters of a team e.g. Bayer Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, etc.). Leipzig didnt use the intended way to one of those exceptions but used pretty shady loopholes to achieve that. Thats why they are hated, they basically cheated the system and thus got an unfair advantage (it was all legal ofc but they went completely against what the system was supposed to protect). I mean they are not even really a football CLUB, as in it has like 10 members (all being Red Bull employees) and an extraordinary fee to join, so its basically impossible that any fans will ever have the chance to join and have say in this club. (not really up to date on this so correct me if im wrong, edit: should have watched the video first) They are a well run organization without any doubt and they would be a welcome competition in the Bundesliga, but they used unsportsmanlike strategies to get there and thus dont deserve to be in the Bundesliga. If they had just followed the rules like for example Hoffenheim people wouldnt hate them (although Hoffenheim also is seen very critical but for other reasons)

[@lukasstru3161]

@@breznsalzer7323 perfectly said

[@NikhilSingh-ht2so]

Well its the Germans who rants about their players leaving their league and moving to prem or la liga but the fact is that since they have this 50+1 voting rule of who can come here and can fund the club and who cannot makes no sense. I also belive that this rule is good for the emotions of the fans that their club belongs to them.but I believe that DFB should circumvent their rules a bit and allow big businessmen to come and invest in their club so that they can also buy great players and can give a fight to Bayern Munich for the title and can save their own players from getting poached! IMO , DFB should get a bunch of guys from.the economics to shape their rules a bit and make a rule which allows the funds pouring from.investors and along with it, the maintainance of 50+1 rule just like FC BARCELONA does!

[@genschyy]

No one rants about this.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Keep your opinions to yourself. We don't play for money here

[@tareklegrand7747]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 that's right you play for Bayern. Every teams in the Bundesliga play for Bayern.

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

​@@tareklegrand7747 No we dont. Bayern didnt buy a opponent player aside from sommer for many years.

[@colinlovelace9703]

They need to get rid of Nagelsmann. Never won anything, but always arrogant & disrespectful. Players hate to play for him. Such a disgrace & no second Kloppo

[@susamogus5693]

He had a team comprised of nobodies and brought it to the semi finals of the champions league lol what are you talking about

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

@@susamogus5693 good money laundering there.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Well a update, they got rid of him. He joined their rivals.

[@julek4248]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 nagelsmann holt die Meisterschaft Danke an Leipzig aber ihr seid trotzdem scheiße

[@kostas7papasotirioypap735]

The other teams of bundesliga made by the fans ans grow by the fans before the new era of football come...so the fans have every right to have the last word about the club(50+1) but RB Liepsig is a team who made by redbull money they were nothing special and now they are at top tier by the money that came from redbull not the fans like the other teams so why the fans should own the most part of the team and not the redbull...All I mean is that the teams in bundesliga build in 1800's and 1900's are made and make their way up till today mostly by their fans money and help..but liepsig do that with redbull's money the fans came afterwards to support the new team of the city..Also the team helps financial the city and its a good advertisement for them thats why the fans support her

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Your English gave me a headache. German football has a rule, 50+1 and this rule is in place for a good reason. Just because pigbull invested money in Leipzig team doens't mean they own the entire team. The rule was in place to protect people's game here from corporate takeover and leave the game soulless. The club's here have a more intrinsic value, every kid here grows up watching their club play and is a very important part of their life. Football here is passion, not money laundering.

[@buzz0074]

Bayern Munich is the most hated club in Germany.

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Nein RB du idiot

[@Nobody-xz6ph]

I don't think so rb Leipzig are hated I love their style of play

[@robertharsh7218]

You love their style of play..but people hate their Ownership

[@sheejasam6567]

@@robertharsh7218 yeah it's kinda like Man City

[@bungeespeaks6081]

People can cry..they only hate us because we are east germans.. cry more

[@sheejasam6567]

@@bungeespeaks6081 sorry for asking, but why are east Germans hated?

[@ElfriedeHattenkerl]

Bullshit wir hassen euch weil ihr Plastik seid und Nagelsmann n dulli

[@susamogus5693]

İ am a red bull leipzig fan. They have no really famous players or a famous manager yet they still got to the semifinals of the champions league. Also their play is spectacular

[@linuslsc6346]

''Fan'' sowas nennt man Kunde

[@Qwerty-be5rh]

😂

[@genschyy]

Then you're not a fan.

[@GreatMewtwo]

DFB (German Football Assoc.): Is that a Red Bull reference in your crest? Change it. Also the DFB: Is that a Bayer reference? That's cool.

[@riotcity44]

Don't support this advertisment!

[@uselessjoe]

but no money has been pumped into Bayern!

[@bonifacenjuguna7453]

I like leipzing from kenya it's good team when it come to betting...am big fan of leipzing😘

[@eericlyde]

Man, you can't even spell your favourite football clubs name correctly.

[@malacymlhandy7272]

Well, THEN YOU ARE LOST

[@Hachiae]

@@eericlyde crazy how everyone isnt fluent in english

[@linuslsc6346]

People who likes RB Leipzig are a shame for football

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Educate yourself. You are ruining our sport. Support a real club or stop watching

[@minisurfbanana]

I have a dream of buying a 4th 5th tier team in PL or La Liga or Serie and do the same...if i was a Billionaire though! Whats the fun of buying Chelsea when their already at the top. Once they make top league...i would sell and do it again😁

[@aggeloskosmidis7667]

Yes you only see the red bull but not the very good manager and the best scouted talent like sabitzer, werner, upamecano, keita, olmo, nkuku, poulsen, demme, konate, haidara and many more pls don't start saying that most of these players are from salzburg

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

The players are not a problem and never were. The club is a cancer

[@lordoflocks8811]

they have way more money to spend on talents after all...

[@dark3rthanshadows]

let's be honest RedBull Leipzig is a dumb name . like what's next? Coca Cola Heidelberg?Ok having a rich owner buying the company or financing is one thing but picking a team eating the team carcass and create a different team with their spot and a Brand name like Redbull Leipzig is stupid. specially when they flew from the 4th division to the 1st with a super budget. The worse part is that they are franchinsing the teams ! They literally created in brasil a team called "Red bull brasil" with same logo uniform etc etc! Franchize teams! wtf!?

[@DriverKIT]

Coca Cola Heidelberg would be a local rivel of SAP 1899 Hoppenheim

[@tareklegrand7747]

It's actually Rasenball Leipzig smart 🤓

[@GreatMewtwo]

What is actually terrible about this is that baseball teams do that in Japan, what with such examples as the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks.

[@gwnnils3857]

I support it because i drink it

[@RBLTalk]

GO RB LEIPZIG 🔴⚪ from the RBL Talk Podcast

[@支那苏爹坟头草三尺]

bot

[@fpupesh]

what if bayer had a team named after the company?

[@lennartj5356]

its not the same because the club was founded in 1904 by the bayer workers to play football themselves. whilst rb leipzig only exists to promote redbull. on top bayer fulfills the 50+1 rule in comparison to rb

[@fpupesh]

@@lennartj5356 right but because it's old it's ok. ignore the red bull shenanigans here, talking purely name wise. bayer - good, despite they invented heroin, red bull bad.

[@DriverKIT]

Bayer is not good in any way, not because they invented Heroin, but they participated and played an important role in the 3rd Reich. I hate Leverkusen, they are a hilarious club with a tiny crowd and our local rival. But I wouldn't dream about comparing them to RB Leipzig. They are a shitty football club, but at least the ARE a football club. RB is a piece of plastic.

[@aunmaqsood3129]

@@fpupesh How many feeder clubs does RB have, and how many does Bayer have? Bayer won't affect the 50 + 1 rule as RB will, and that's evident with the clubs named after Red Bull.

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Wrong statement. Correction - what if bayer had a team named after it and it brought players from its other feeder clubs?

[@CristMakhanya]

Only Munich fans are complaining

[@tareklegrand7747]

Bundesliga is a dictatorship owned by Bayern. The rest doesn't play for the title they play for Bayern. They develop young talent in order to sell them to Bayern. Everything is about Bayern.

[@mrunbandig1348]

For PL fans, its just like City the have only Money nothing else….

[@stratisgeorgilus6341]

RB Liepzig: most hated club because of being a walking billboard for red bull Bayer Leverkusen being so sponsored they have a pill representing Bayer on their crest: ummm.......

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

It's not about sponsorship, it's about who owns the team. German teams 50+1, Pigbull Leipzig 100%. That's the difference

[@lordoflocks8811]

Bayer Leverkusen was founded in 1904 by factory workers. And like Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim they are hated too

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Bayer leverkusen was not made by bayer. The workers created a club to play, they were never super rich. They are almost 150 years old

[@johnnylama7803]

RB LEIPZIG ROCKS💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖😊🏆🍖🍺

[@DriverKIT]

Verpiss dich

[@munuanmuffshop9876]

🤢🤢🤢

[@linuslsc6346]

Verpiss dich

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

I spit on your grannys grave😮

[@flashlol2333]

At this point I am like someone please beat bayern Literally anyone...

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Nobody would, simply because they are the best team in Europe and are fan owned. Unlike Pigbull Leipzig

[@soul9633]

I like RB Leipzig 👌

[@linuslsc6346]

Then you are not a real football fan

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

U never loved football then

[@simonp6600]

#neinzuRB#fckRB

[@jazzzzzz5626]

So Leipzig did what they had to do to get better and now their hated lmao

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

Wrong are hated because they are cheater pigs. They bring players from their other feeder clubs, missusing the rules of Bundesliga

[@jazzzzzz5626]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 ok ? So what ? Haaland came from RB slazburg and dorthmund fans love him same with other players Bayern buys players from their rivial clubs and no one seems to have a problem with this

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

@@jazzzzzz5626 as far as I know dortmund doesn't have any feeder clubs like redbull. Besides that ask any German kid which team he/she would love to play and they'll say bayern Munich. Leipzig is nothing in front of bayern. Bayern is a prestigious team to play for.

[@jazzzzzz5626]

@@shubhamyatekar1972 yea they would say that because Bayern is the most dominant team and the only good team in that sorry league lmao if I was a kid I pick the best from the rest to 😂

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

​@@jazzzzzz5626German teams are hundreds of years old and worked their way up. We dont want owners and companies in our league. Fck off if u dont see the core issue

[@ricksanchez25]

wtf German Jdt was real

[@rareschorban936]

RB Leipzig isn't hated. It is actually a fan-favourite team.

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Fck off RB monkey🤡🤡🤡

[@BabiletubeAbdulrahmanmmohamed]

Really this club is amazing

[@alstorm-brawlstars1772]

no

[@linuslsc6346]

You are disgusting

[@BabiletubeAbdulrahmanmmohamed]

@@linuslsc6346 n*zi

[@linuslsc6346]

@@BabiletubeAbdulrahmanmmohamed because in german? Racist

[@BabiletubeAbdulrahmanmmohamed]

@@linuslsc6346 fuc germany

[@minecraftheaventgsgaming7960]

Man u is most hated In England

[@Adamhuge7]

I think it's liverpool

[@Flutschfingerbaron]

Not Man City?

[@Rasenballsport09]

So much wrong information...

[@davidkila6823]

Manchester United will destroy them on Wednesday

[@akshaypandey9243]

Dream 😴😴

[@itscameronrkid8284]

@@akshaypandey9243 said the same about PSG

[@akshaypandey9243]

@@itscameronrkid8284 who? 🤔

[@akshaypandey9243]

@@itscameronrkid8284 I'm also a united supporter, But this united team is just shit 🤦‍♂️

[@itscameronrkid8284]

@@akshaypandey9243 well hello my friend 5-0

[@SB-qh4gi]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpmpaHt4oZ6osKc Szoboszlai in Leipzig!🇭🇺😜 He's gonna be the best bundesliga player!

[@kathanpatel1896]

I want to Red bull Leipzig to win the Bundisliga

[@kingaoe1235]

that would mean the death of German Football

[@renekupfer5393]

they will in the next 5years safely win at least one bundesliga title

[@linuslsc6346]

This would be a black day in german football history.

[@yupyup8305]

Yea then I would only watch the games of my local club because Football will die that day just think of hamburg UCL winners and the team with the most years without relegation the UCL final 2013 Frankfurt beating Fc Bayern in the DFB Pokal RW essen defeating Bayer Leverkusen a young Khedira winning the league in 2007 with Stuttgart all a thing of the past gone in a monetizing hell.

[@MrBenraf]

💯🥂

[@charliechaine8730]

I would say Bayern Munich is the most hated club in Germany. But also the most loved one.

[@lukelillebrorcyran8397]

Nope. Leipzig is the most hated, by far.

[@charliechaine8730]

@@lukelillebrorcyran8397 Hey Luke. No they are not. It´s not even close. Believe me i´m from germany i have to know it better. I searched for a statistic after i red your comment. You can see it in this article www.t-online.de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/id_84293574/studie-zur-bundesliga-das-sind-die-meistgehassten-vereine-deutschlands.html This poll was done by more than 3000 football fans in germany. This quite representive. There is a pychologial reason behind that. In Germany we have culture of jealousy. And Bayern ist by far the most successful team in Germany. But remember my first comment: They are also the most loved club here. They heavily divide german Fans. Leipzig is the 2nd most hated club. They are not liked but no one really cares about them, because they didnt win anything until now. If one day RB Leipzig surpasses Bayern Munich it will probably change.

[@DriverKIT]

@@charliechaine8730 I wish there was a culture of jealousy in Germany, capitalistic bullshit would be destroyed if Germans had any self respect. Bayern isn't even recognized by me anymore, I don't even know that they exist throughout the second half of the season, as soon as they are 6 infront. If I would be forced to eat the shit of any Bayern fan or be an RB Leipzig fan I would be happily dying eating shit of people whos whole confidence is dependent of supporting the most successful club.

[@linuslsc6346]

Bro im from Germany and Leipzig is by far the hated club

[@lukelillebrorcyran8397]

@@charliechaine8730 im also from Germany and your statistic was mostly done in eastern Germany so of course there are some people biased Leipzig

[@freddy-wellz233]

👍👍👍

[@speedking6441]

im from ger and i support em

[@renekupfer5393]

Neid muss man sich erarbeiten,Mitleid kriegt man geschenkt RBL 4 ever

[@lionkingflo6355]

@@renekupfer5393 Nein den Neid muss man sich beim erarbeiten ist beim FC Bayern. Das bei RB ist Hass gegen den nicht traditionellen Kommerz Klub eines Investor. Und bevor du mit es gibt in anderen Vereinen auch Kommerz, bei RB geht es aber um Marketing Repräsentantion. Von dem 5 Klubs geht die dem Investor RB gehören.

[@linuslsc6346]

@@renekupfer5393 das du es dich wagst mit diesem Profilbild die Bullenschweine zu supporten ist widerlich. Ekelhaft!

[@linuslsc6346]

Dann bist du kein wahrer Fußballfan

[@speedking6441]

@@linuslsc6346 :'( heul doch. Was interessiert mich ob irgendein random im Internet zu mir meint ich sei kein richtiger Fußballfan. Und was du hier @myway schreibst: "du wagst es diese Bullenschweine zu supporten.." klingt schon hetzerisch, sektenartig. Nach dem Motto, weil alle sie hassen muss ich und du sie auch hassen. Lern mal für dich selbst zu denken. Hate to break it to you skippy, aber nicht jedem ist "Fußballtradition" (was das auch immer heißen soll, da es vor Fankultur auch schon den Fußball gab) so wichtig wie dir, manche sind auch einfach an dem Sport interessiert und nicht dem ganzen drum herum. Irgendwelche Ultras und andere Fangruppierungen nehmen sich einfach viel zu wichtig, dabei kann man gut sehen dass der Ball auch ohne Fans im Stadion rollt und die leute entertaint. Fakt ist was sportliche Leistungen angeht, liefert RB einfach ab, und das vor allem auch international. Das kannst du nicht nur mit Geld kaufen, dahinter steckt einfach auch viel kluge, zielgerichtete Arbeit. Außerdem gibt RB im vergleich zu anderen durch Investoren/Konzerne gestützte Vereine, noch deutlich weniger aus (siehe Ausland). Deutsche müssen einfach mal mit der Zeit gehen und aufhören alles grundlos zu haten.

[@jamie_sg]

Bayern are the most hated.

[@renekupfer5393]

@@vincentproductions8963 Dortmund should be most hated,they blame Germany in CL,hate against commerz as an AG and there fans are stupid as fuck

[@linuslsc6346]

No

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Nope

[@xfightx11]

you guys just mad bc they whoops you favorite teams butts 😂😂😂😂

[@shibsankarlaha9153]

Like sc eastbangal

[@xiamsmobie6972]

If a german club is dying on of the reasons is always RB Leipzig because they stole 1 place in an upper league

[@spoonfed7724]

I’m a loyal RB Leipzig fan , we’re stomping all over you other teams

[@tsplays7234]

8th😂😂😂

[@julek4248]

Hahahaha sehr witzig

[@shubhamyatekar1972]

You are a spoonfed 🐷 customer. Not a big deal for us.

[@leobarberies4032]

rb fans here??

[@Memesgoo1]

Sorry, but they dont excist

[@anewbeginning9150]

What a coincidence!! Because Manchester United is the most hated team in England..

[@binitshrestha3122]

could you be more wrong

[@binitshrestha3122]

you support a fictional man better not talk

[@orangeslav6726]

@@binitshrestha3122 Liverpool is the most hated club

[@binitshrestha3122]

@@orangeslav6726 not arguing with you

[@krazypizza1163]

👍

[@cropunisher5879]

Makes no sense. They should hate bayern

[@Qwerty-be5rh]

We do

[@genschyy]

Imagine you judge about others feelings... They do hate Bayern. But why doesn't it make sense to hate Leipzig?