This Is WORSE Than We Thought...

[@uncledenny3036]

JT has the ability to lead and to inspire his team mates. EP is the opposite. JT is built for playoff success. EP is the opposite. Given their similar point totals I would take JT on my team anyday, but it shouldn't ever need to come fown to that. If there is any truth to these rumours it's up to the coach and captain to get them to sort it out. Time to act like men and get on with it.

[@ScottWood-p6z]

Good Bye Petey! Just go now!

[@brandona7206]

You nailed it here. Half the games Petey doesn't play hard. Too lackadaisical. Probably upsets more than just Miller, guaranteed.

[@puny-tinsucks5102]

JT is costing us games with stupid plays and Petey gets tripped by the blue line, time to offload the two of them

[@gudius]

Ep won playoff MVP as a rookie in SHL, had over 1/point per game in his first playoff, the only playoff he hasnt performed was last season where he headed into it in a big slump. To say he is not a playoff player is just nonsense imo

[@RyanDawson-d3n]

I hate most people I work with , get over it

[@G_Ellis606]

U sound fun!

[@puny-tinsucks5102]

@@G_Ellis606 he sounds like the average person working in the average occupation. the team and fans should not be held accountable for spoiled millionaires tho we can just not show up for a game and see if that sends a message to the players

[@dtown902]

If there's anything to this rumor, I want to believe that wasn't a "leave of absence" The team suspended him and let him save face in public by calling it a leave of absence.

[@G_Ellis606]

JT called Petey a "Fruit" in front of the whole team.

[@StreetFig]

G_Ellis606 and how do you know that?

[@chocolateface8664]

I heard he called him a Meatball

[@bellamydrake9343]

If this rift is true it is Petty that needs to go. He has been crap since he signed his big contract, on and off since signed. His contract allows a trade this year so get it done. We are not going deep into the playoffs lead by light weight Petty.

[@chocolateface8664]

@ what team would be dumb enough to pay that 11mil? this isn’t a video game

[@TheBlazersfan22]

You know what no one is talking about. How terrible miller was last night. If he all about heart and want pettersson to play better. Why isn't miller playing better? Why is he not back checking hard. I saw him sitting up at the blue line . Not helping the defence out . Pettersson was. Not miller. Why was miller not changing on time. Why is he sluggish going to the bench? Why is he staying on for longer shifts than changing. He stayed out there too long on ot. Causing the ot goal. Pettersson was good when miller was gone. Now miller back. We got no point pettersson again. Miller seems to be toxic in room.if miller doesn't want to be a team player. Go to another team then.

[@iansze2652]

Pettersson has always been a much better defensive player than Miller....Miller has a history of making boneheaded decisions that costs the team.....I'd like to see Pettersson take a step up in the playoffs as well, but he is the better player overall.

[@evolgrim4139]

Honestly exactly what I was thinking, or Tocchet forces both of them to get a beer and talk it out like men

[@christopherecatalano]

@@iansze2652 absolutely...

[@TheBlazersfan22]

​@evolgrim4139 that or a peace pipe with some b.c Mari Jane. Smoke a huge bowl in the players room. Then be chill as Bob marley with his hit song one love .

[@bellamydrake9343]

Every time I am in this discussion with friends their only comeback is well EP is good defensively. So we keep a Selke Trophy candidate at 11.7 Mil per over 8M per Miller who is designed for the NHL grind and playoffs. Not.

[@StephenConantJohnson]

If we could get Cozens and Byram for Petey or Miller, I'd do that in a heartbeat. A f-ing HEARTBEAT!!!

[@rdeh1678]

Trade them both , as the team is bigger then the individuals

[@m_m_m_beer8917]

Agreed.

[@jaymewillett1675]

I’d rather keep petey just because he is young

[@lightlybatteredjustcrispy]

Than

Trade “Petey”

[@rdeh1678]

They need to both go , this will show all the players and future players that this is a team sport and not a individual sport , if they just get rid of one it will cause a division of the team as some of the team is on one side and some are on the other side . And by the team not choosing sides it will stop the locker room politics

[@froodogga7053]

EP is not an 11.8 million dollar player...11.8 million dollar players show up 4 out of 5 games. Not 1 out of 5 games...worst contract in nhl right now.

[@satisfyingV]

Did none of you notice Petey's 15 points in the 10 games Miller was gone? He's showing us he can be the difference maker when Miller isnt around.

[@tens9100]

Yep. On fire. Miller comes back and he goes cold. Miller causes problems with everyone. His wife, goalies, Horvat, Petersson. Miller looks like a horrible teammate

[@roundnround365]

​@@tens9100 Is that why mgmt put an 'A' on Miller's sweater? First line center that does all the heavy lifting. 421 points as a Canuck in 389 games for $8m per year. How about you make up some more tales to fit your story because Miller is the heart and soul of this club.

[@uncledenny3036]

@@satisfyingV So does that mean his feelings get hurt when Miller is around? Sounds like a primadonna syndrome to me.

[@satisfyingV]

@@uncledenny3036 Well if Miller is an asshole behind the scenes I could see it affecting the team's play. Similar thing happened with Miller and Horvat. Miller and Horvat definitely didn't see eye to eye either, but Miller started playing way better after Horvat was traded away.

[@TheLivewire18]

If this was an issue before and they played like they did last season, why is it such an issue now. When a team struggles, these things get blown up. If they go on a 5 game win streak, all these stories will disappear

[@matthewsmith5374]

Heck, 3 games.

[@Tiny10Ten]

They had the lotto line together for a shift in the Golden Knights game

[@allancrow134]

Too bad because they both bring something worthwhile to the team. Something tells me JT can be a bit abrasive. No one likes a hostile workplace, it affects the morale of the entire team. I'd get rid of the sandpaper not the wood. Top 3....Garland, Sherwood, Lankinen

[@fartooshifty4u51]

Miller over Petey 100%. I really like Petey as a person, but Miller gives us more. Petey is also way overpaid right now. Better to move him for a good D man

[@jaymewillett1675]

Nah

[@gavin7772]

Not a canucks fan but I’ve been saying at a certain point the blame falls on Hughes, you have to command the room as a captain I think he’s more worried about his team liking him than being a leader

[@Woahitsjurb]

Has anyone gone back and re watched/analyzed the game that miller got benched before he took his time off? I’ve been wondering if there is anything more to be seen there? I for one am tired of hearing all the speculation. Do we really think miller consciously looked at the bench last night and thought to himself “oh petey is out next and I don’t want him to score” so I’ll just stay out… I’m not buying it. Lastly if there really was an issue do you not think that tocchet and Hughes might have called a meeting with miller and petey to sit down and sort it all out as professionals & adults? Let them play hockey quit making something out of nothing.

[@John-n3p2b]

Maybe petey should grow a pair. Just cuz you don't like someone does not mean you don't perform and sign a check to be the highest paid player. I will take 1 miller to 2 petterssons any day. Trading petey and I like petey would bring the best return send him east

[@Drunk-tugboat-drivers]

If miller is being a bully in the locker room it’s probably really getting to his head and it’s different then just not liking him

[@SportsMuppets]

A lot of couch coaches are running their gums off Myers caused this mess with a weak cross check

[@scotty3478]

Miller was doing the samething in the game that Tocett sat him in the 3rd, before he left for a while. I would trade Miller for a top 4 dman and a center prospect.

[@vancityslicker2844]

Thats why your not a GM for an NHL team!!

[@MrCryptler69]

I knew of this when EP had 20 points & was playing great when Miller was absent & his play dropped when Miller came back. That long hesitation from EP to sign was because of Miller. Look, Petey was playing great without him. He is the future of the team. When Miller shits on everyone for not putting in the effort, does the other players shit on Miller when he plays bad? Last night, Miller lost the puck leading to a 2 on 1, with Garland trying to defend, I was pissed on how bad Miller played. Who shit on him when he F's up? His anger & negativity are unwarranted, and it spreads within the team. He's got approx. a goal per game, but if we can trade him for someone similar, I'm okay with that. Otherwise, Miller needs to STFU & stop criticizing his teammates. If he's pissed that EP makes more than him despite that he had more points than EP last year, too bad! Get over it! He's probably the reason EP is sucking!

[@bellamydrake9343]

Petty has be crap since he signed his contract. We are going now where in the playoffs being lead by that guy. Great skill yes, but has been far to inconsistent since joining the Canucks. Top paid players per form 90% of the time, Petty not even 50%. If this guy is our future as you say than we have no future.

[@StephenConantJohnson]

Three fav Canucks (not including Quinn because.. duh, he's the closest d-man to a certain Boston #4 since #4 played so naturally the unanimous favorite) would have to be Lankinen, Sherwood and Garland for me.

[@vancityslicker2844]

Hellz ya!

[@PollyTheWog-ff8rt]

Last half of last season, and more importantly, the playoffs…. one guy showed up every night, played balls out…. one guy disappeared COMPLETELY. Pettersson NEVER EVER should have got that contract. Absolutely ridiculous and he is going to keep this team from winning a Cup for the next decade.

[@coyotecreekband236]

I always felt that just before Travis Green got fired, Horvat and a few players took the "Stand by the coach" side while the others under Miller took the "Mutiny On The Bounty" and got a new coach. Shortly after Boudreau and Allvin were hired, Horvat was traded and a few other pieces sent packing as well. Now the same scenario is going on between Petey and JT as a polarized locker room has happened again? I guess somebody has to go.

[@stevecorner5069]

Petey being a Swede is probably untouchable with Alvin and a tough contract to move. I think there would be more interest in Miller and would be easier to move.

[@eviohh]

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Petey is the guy that they have chosen to build the Canucks around though. You don't give a guy a contract like that and just dump him off. We are in it for the long haul with Petey like it or not.

[@glgl7676]

Much easier to trade 8.0 than 11.6 during the middle of the season if Miller waives NMC else these prima donnas just need to learn to get along given their 20M salaries.

[@rodneyhickman825]

Both guys would be easy to trade . Why not keep the guy that's a better value .

[@glgl7676]

@@rodneyhickman825 lol, not a serious comment

[@confusion9950]

petey and miller are both amazingly important........... we have petey lite in Lekk right now.......... noone else has Miller........ took me alot to be on board with miller but....... I am miller over petey and, as an ex captain of a competetive team........ sorry you gotta deal with the b.s. Quinn! And, my favourites are a tie between the darkhorse of sherwood and, LANK THE BLANK

[@vancityslicker2844]

Miller 100%

[@PurpleLightningKing]

It just sucks that all we were talking about is how good we have been doing despite missing boeser, jt and demko but now that they're back we're looking so bad.

[@old-school1969]

EP constantly looks like he couldn't care less about what's happening. He looks like a prima donna compared to Miller lunchbox live and die with each shift.

[@meavid]

Thank you Don Cherry.

[@oveberthling]

It's a team sport, so you can't have players who don't act like team players...it's just ridiculous! No team wants a player like that!

[@roysantoso4327]

they seem to be playing better as a team when miller was away. cant deny petey found his form when miller was out.

[@Disturbed1TV]

If the previous coach is saying it was an issue then it is. Miller needs to go. Hes 32 and bound to decline. Pettersson got 15 points in 10 games miller was out. That happens to be a 123 point pace. My top 3 are Hughes, Sherwood and Debrusk with Suter also in that picture.

[@stewartanderson676]

Make a trade.

[@bellamydrake9343]

Mr Digest we lost the game by not shoeing up and being outworked.

[@user-iw5mp5th6d]

I'd trade both of them if the returns are reasonable.

[@Gruboria]

Trade them both, W'ell get good pieces. This team is Hughes anyways. Hughes will play first line center stars.

[@danielgraham8559]

If true, this is poor player management from the coach. Disappointing if so.

[@yup1379]

Love JT but he needs to get along and help teammates.

[@johan.j.bergman]

Online trolls that hate Pettersson don't count? Very balanced view.

[@vancityslicker2844]

Last years playoffs?? Miller or petey? Miller!!! Petey shit the bed like a baby

[@johan.j.bergman]

@@vancityslicker2844 You clearly have a balanced view.

[@PeterScheiber-pk6vg]

where is the proof that this isn't a media fabrication? you can't just say "this isn't a media fabrication" and then not give any proof to back it up

[@donaldlincoln4572]

Miller has a problem, trading is not the best option, but may not get done, he now has a stigma, he is toxic in the locker room.

[@michaelandre2352]

Keep Miller and trade petey. He's not worth the contract he got. Miller is way better for the team moving forward.

[@kevingoodwin5177]

Miller is 31.

[@roundnround365]

​ @tens9100 Is that why mgmt put an 'A' on Miller's sweater? First line center that does all the heavy lifting. 421 points as a Canuck in 389 games for $8m per year. How about you make up some more tales to fit your story because Miller is the heart and soul of the Canucks. He's probably tired of little babies pretending they have the heart of a MIller.

[@bazman1611]

I hope JT keeps cross checking Pettersen in practice. JT is a difference maker. Pettersen is highly overrated. My God, Vancouver fans are the last person you should ask as how to win anything. They are the most useless people when it comes to winning. Petey is currently at the level of loui Erickson and Oliver Ekman Larson. The problem is not with a JT. It’s ALL on Petey. Goodbye. Gone, gone gone. Not a difference maker.

[@meavid]

JT can be so unprofessional like the missed line change, or the time he gave up on a play under Boudreau. JT isn’t perfect every game. And if he’s resentful of Petey’s salary…ffs he should be past that. Whatever a guy can get he gets. Yes Petey needs to play better and Miller needs to be a better teammate.

[@lightlybatteredjustcrispy]

Considering you dont even know how to spell his name i dont think your opinion really matters

[@JP-pr9re]

It's wild to say a guy with 191 points in the past 2 seasons produces as much as Eriksson and Ekman Larsson did as Canucks. Sensastionalism at its finest.

[@wallkn]

we gotta get rid of one or the other idc which one at this point we just need to sort this out and if millers the problem causing team morale to be so low hes gotta go but the fact of the matter is boeser isnt playing anywhere near the level he was at last season and i imagine hes probably depressed his A got taken as soon as miller got back but he hasnt proved that he deserves it if miller does leave why not give the A to garland who puts his heart and soul into the game and always hustles out there i cant imagine him not stepping up to the task if given the opportunity and why are we healthy scratching hoglander again he might not be scoring but hes had more hustle out there than half the team lately so if tocchet has such a problem with him then get rid of him dont keep him just to not give him ice time or an opportunity at that point just trade him off along with miller for a top 4 d man and a prospect but at this point we're hopeless with juulsen on our 2nd d line and i dont even know why we picked up forbort when he never plays hes missed half of the games this season and when he does play hes ass all he does is turn the puck over in our own d zone and take pointless penalties and desharnais ive seen some positive defensive play out of but not alot of consistency we are gonna be lucky to make the playoffs at this rate we're a way different team this year and not for the better

[@JDsArchive]

Favorite nucks this year r Sheraton blueger and quinn

[@cloverdalerail1093]

No1 reason Pete wasn’t in the run for captaincy

[@johan.j.bergman]

No1 reason Pete was hesitant to sign the contract.

[@SportsMuppets]

Everybody's losing their 💩 Myers cross-check cost this team the win last night .. Vancouver sucked in the first period except Demko In the second period, they got a bit better ..But in the 3rd they they got sloppy ..Cant blame Pettersson or JtMiller they all sucked on the ice ..

[@joellercovich3630]

Lol they had 2 shots in the second period

[@pauly3473]

I dont know how much truth there is to all this but there is no way they trade Pettersson over Miller if they have to choose. Pettersson is better at every facet of the game and hes about 6 years younger.

[@roundnround365]

Nice try. The kid is weak in the circle,scoring goals and being a man. Didn't watch the playoffs,obviously.

[@harryvesanen284]

@@roundnround365 look att the face off statistics in the last two games.

[@lightlybatteredjustcrispy]

​@@roundnround365 you sound like such a goof hahaha

[@roundnround365]

@@lightlybatteredjustcrispy Ok,Einstein. Explain how Pete went from 1.25 PPG prior to inking his contract to 0.72 PPG now? That does not include the playoffs where 11.6 had ONE goal in 13 games and less than .5 PPG production. ha ha ha

[@Saltwound5]

Soooo 2 over payed baby's that cant play in the sandbox together? Seriously you children don't get a big enough bag to not tank the team get it together!

[@andrew4451]

So many overtime losses thia season

[@OhCanada-wk3kl]

Petterson fanboy by any chance? What a biased report! I'd rather keep the player who has a passion for winning - just like the Vancouver fans - than the one continuously checking his hair in the mirror and social media reviews of his on-ice play. Who showed up in the Big games and in the playoffs last year? Whose play has been trending down since he signed his "franchise player" contract? If the Canucks are not committed to winning as a franchise, I would want out too if I was JT Miller or any other player on the team for that matter! The other elephant in the room is that locking Pouty Petey in for $11.5 million for 8 years will largely impact the Canucks' long-term success for better or for worse as a franchise! Which player gives the Canucks more consistent Compete- particularly in the Big games and in the playoffs when it counts? I think the declining attendance for home games is telling you everything you need to know about what the Canuck fans want . . .

[@satisfyingV]

Huh? Checking his hair in the mirror and social media reviews? Petey doesn't even have hair nor is he active on social media. You're just spewing.

[@makavelikilluminati6756]

First

[@morrislam6709]

Hate to say but Miller over Petti youth and playes well with Dibrust.Can get great return fir Miller