This Japanese YouTuber was Arrested for Making Movie Reviews

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Joey Bizinger

Joey Bizinger

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Japanese Fair Use laws have resulted in 3 Japanese students getting arrested for making movie reviews on KZbin. Let's talk about it.
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@sandilemlambo5701
@sandilemlambo5701 2 жыл бұрын
Next they're going to arrest Joey for having Japanese articles next to him throughout his videos
@tmck4138
@tmck4138 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t jinx it
@cream9292
@cream9292 2 жыл бұрын
but srsly though, would garnt be ok? all of his videos are pretty much completely made off anime clips and screenshots.
@ratoh1710
@ratoh1710 2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically that could be a problem since the articles are copyrighted.
@ratoh1710
@ratoh1710 2 жыл бұрын
@@cream9292 He's probably fine because they've got GeeXPlus backing them and therefore by extension Kadokawa.
@davidluu9858
@davidluu9858 2 жыл бұрын
@@ratoh1710 It depends, Kadokawa only covers variety of anime, etc. not all of them. He is most likely under the mercy of anime publisher unless he gets permission. For example, Fate series is owned by Sony. If he used the property without permission and If they feel like it, garnt can get into trouble. That is why if you look at Hololive, they will go out of their way to get permission to stream other people stuff. If not, the won't use it. Lastly, KZbin fair use policy does not supersede the law of the location you live in.
@GrandLineReview
@GrandLineReview 2 жыл бұрын
This sort of over the top reaction from Japan is exactly what keeps me up at night.
@infiniteearth6996
@infiniteearth6996 2 жыл бұрын
True if you lived in Japan they would have given you a life sentence
@chirag9899
@chirag9899 2 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen liam was here Edit: aussi elon musk was here
@fukukai5172
@fukukai5172 2 жыл бұрын
Elon
@Sammiibain
@Sammiibain 2 жыл бұрын
uh..Captain (GrandLine) Liam, what are you doing here ? I...Im not doing anything UwU o...oh, you here for consistant injections first division commander of the Trash Taste Pirates
@DXDragon38
@DXDragon38 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they don't crack down on the Manga community any more than they already have.
@Profussy
@Profussy 2 жыл бұрын
wow that's absolutely insane. Especially feel sad for the narrator. Doesn't this set an awful precedent for content creation in Japan across the board? Scary stuff.
@tinypickle
@tinypickle 2 жыл бұрын
I think people already just have to deal with it. Think about all of the hololivers having to get permissions from companies to stream their games. Not something American streamers have to worry about but that's just how it is in Japan for now
@enjel1147
@enjel1147 2 жыл бұрын
Its probably because of the companies not wanting to have a *FAIR USE* law because it would affect their sales in their viewpoint atleast. Japan probably will never have a Fair Use law.
@Marryjanesbud
@Marryjanesbud 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the corporations
@Rispy
@Rispy 2 жыл бұрын
never expected lando to be here lol
@Kage-jk4pj
@Kage-jk4pj 2 жыл бұрын
Fair use doesn't exist in Japan. Maybe in the future they'll arrest Gigguk for using anime footage. Considering he lives in Japan now. So many shows could take Gigguk to court
@progressdaily100
@progressdaily100 2 жыл бұрын
bro two years though? that's fucking cruel
@Simmuh2
@Simmuh2 2 жыл бұрын
Japans justice systems and laws are fucked
@yyg4632
@yyg4632 2 жыл бұрын
I know right. And it was only 5-7 yrs for boys who raped 500x, torture for 44 days, and murder Junko Furuta. What the fuck is wrong with their system?
@raheemcamal998
@raheemcamal998 2 жыл бұрын
@@yyg4632 messy
@roxasxiii7062
@roxasxiii7062 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile kenshin autor Was arrested for owning Childvideo and didn't go to prison
@raheemcamal998
@raheemcamal998 2 жыл бұрын
@@roxasxiii7062 it shows where there prioritise is and what they accept
@Circ00mspice
@Circ00mspice 2 жыл бұрын
_"Hey, I killed a man. What did you do?"_ _"I narrated movie reviews."_ Can't wait for that inevitable conversation in prison.
@Manuke_zt
@Manuke_zt 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey, I set a train on fire and stabbed multiple people in a joker costume. What did you do?" "I narrated movie reviews."
@Kawaiisikkusu
@Kawaiisikkusu 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they treat bad things equally. They don't recognize which one is bad, which one is worse, which one is worst. Yeah they all go jail and pay high fines. (Like doesn't need to put them to jail seriously, just block their vid/channel or just pay fines) I hope i'm just misunderstanding these.
@PotatoMan1491
@PotatoMan1491 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kawaiisikkusu All east asian countries are like this, they want crime to be harshly punished however petty a crime it is
@2712animefreak
@2712animefreak 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kawaiisikkusu They do discern them, though. It is just that the whole spectrum of punishments is shifted towards more severe.
@2712animefreak
@2712animefreak 2 жыл бұрын
The punishment for murder in Japan is life in prison or death, so it is rather unlikely that a murderer will be kept in the same facility as someone like the dude in the video.
@rafacastillo9611
@rafacastillo9611 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i didn't know fair use doesn't exist in Japan, and this definitely makes sense when I remember all those times Nintendo directly screwed over content creators
@Austin_2600
@Austin_2600 2 жыл бұрын
This makes all those clips of Hololive JP getting worried about Henry Stickmin make sense. JP and USA have very different fair use laws.
@davidluu9858
@davidluu9858 2 жыл бұрын
@@Austin_2600Everywhere have different laws and views so everyone should be mindful of it. For example, some people will be asking why christmas music is being played in November when those people starts saying Thanksgiving still needs to be celebrate. Unfortunately, those people didn't realize that Thanksgiving is an American thing and other people from different nation don't have it.
@patriot7624
@patriot7624 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@RinOtonashi
@RinOtonashi 2 жыл бұрын
Copyright infringement doesn’t exist in China.
@anonymousanonymous2554
@anonymousanonymous2554 2 жыл бұрын
No nation should be utilizing Christmas music torture until at least the month of Christmas, either way, to be fair.
@troublemakers9760
@troublemakers9760 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese copyright laws are outrageous.
@eriklagergren7124
@eriklagergren7124 2 жыл бұрын
They, like most of the world's law are written for the 1990's at best, news flash, We don't live in the 90's anymore. Crazy idea, laws are to be written by people knowledgeable in the subject. Didn't japans like minister of cyber security now know what a usb drive was?
@waskithonugroho3955
@waskithonugroho3955 2 жыл бұрын
well there is Actor agency in Japanese that not allowed to released in PC because they do not want to MC in said game being modded
@invaderlum8600
@invaderlum8600 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sad about the news😢
@yof2210
@yof2210 2 жыл бұрын
@@waskithonugroho3955 ah yes Johnnys thanks for giving us Yagami for 2 Games
@marcelllovas1465
@marcelllovas1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriklagergren7124 they were written just after the WW2 actually and just merely changed since digital world became thing
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 2 жыл бұрын
Japan feel like sometimes it’s 3 steps forward and 5 back. Could Garnt be a target for the clips of anime used in his videos?
@Zeitgeist6
@Zeitgeist6 2 жыл бұрын
Not really surprised. Japan doesn't do Fair Use. VKunia had her channel shut down cause Studio Ghibli got pissed over her reaction/review videos of their movies. She tried to contact them and they didn't even respond. They were simply: "You can't do that. We'll shut you down."
@technophobian2962
@technophobian2962 2 жыл бұрын
The US is the only country that does fair use.
@minismallists
@minismallists 2 жыл бұрын
@@technophobian2962 wow
@XxjeffersonDkidxX
@XxjeffersonDkidxX 2 жыл бұрын
@@technophobian2962 land of the free baby.
@Zeitgeist6
@Zeitgeist6 2 жыл бұрын
@@technophobian2962 Well VKunia is an American KZbinr/streamer. I mentioned it since her channel was taken down because of a Japanese studio.
@Geneius2509
@Geneius2509 2 жыл бұрын
@@technophobian2962 ahh yes of course US is the only country in the west lol
@Wimplo86
@Wimplo86 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it sucks living in a country that’s being run by old out-of-touch politicians and lawmakers. I am hearing more from the locals of how much they wish there were more young people who are interested in politics
@xStarstargirlx
@xStarstargirlx 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is a similar sentiment for alot of countries (even Western). Politics is sometimes really really really slow in coming to terms with a changing society (especially with technology). And the main reason is that politics are run by older politicians. We really need more younger politicians to go in to represent the more current society rather than an out-of-touch society.
@sushilsimon109
@sushilsimon109 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah..... young people.......if only there was a little bit higher birth rate.
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a problem in all over the world We don’t know how for long the out-of-touch boomers did stupid things to us. They can’t keep up with the fast change in globalization today and decided to try to slowing it down with their antics while we suffer from it Goddamn, why do these people live longer than the kind boomers?
@OmniscientWarrior
@OmniscientWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
The same people that follow the censorship laws that were forced on them in the 1860's, though it was to block western things out, they did it to their own stuff.
@YujiUedaFan
@YujiUedaFan 2 жыл бұрын
In Japan though, there's an age heirachy suystem.
@averageanimefan519
@averageanimefan519 2 жыл бұрын
This is just painful. There were numerous ways to handle this like block the video or put a claim on it. Which, I don't agree with those two choices but those are options. Instead, the studio took the most drastic route and now the three are going to have a fee and jail time.
@Nikolapestanac
@Nikolapestanac 2 жыл бұрын
I agree this was extreme, but it was honestly the best way to deal with it for the studio; think about it: "do i sue this channel and get hundreds of thousands or just get the video blocked and get no money or put my claim on the video and get 100% of the revenue which is going to be less than hundreds of thousands of yen"
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 2 жыл бұрын
I am the cool kid from Germany making videos for the USA and the rest of the world. I will make your day so don't say nay to me today, dear av
@jakefurry7522
@jakefurry7522 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Japanese company are still rolling into the internet so they would not recognize taking claims on videos as 'legal act' and Japanese rule are strict af
@HaotoAnimeOnPiano
@HaotoAnimeOnPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Give us the name of the studio. We need to call them out and start protesting.
@PineappleBaconPizza
@PineappleBaconPizza 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nikolapestanac these three dudes aren't making hundreds of thousands. Shit I would be surprised if they even made more than 5-10k
@EnerKaizer
@EnerKaizer 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to research why Japans copyright-laws are still as strict as they are, and what I found out might be the answer why. A lot of film studios paniced in the 80ies when the VCR finally became affordable for a regular Japanese household. People started to just buy empty tapes, record/copy any movie they had gotten their hands on/ran on TV and then they would start to meet up and trade them with others for free. Think of this like an very archaic analog version of early youtube were people uploaded entire TV-shows and movies on youtube for example. Japan already had issues enforcing broken copyright because there was barely any protection put on the official purchasable tapes and the like, hence why both VHS tapes as well as DVD's later costed way more in Japan then they do in the west. A DVD-set of an entire anime season, which would run for maybe 60+ Dollars/Euro in west, could cost normally around 300 Dollar/Euro in Japan and the regular DVD for a recently released Kamen Rider movie costs at least around 70 Dollar/Euro for example. As silly as this sounds, this is Japans way to combat the piracy issue. Instead of going after the pirates they are charging the honest customers more, and because this system kinda works for them at least (+ Japans generall attitude towards change) the copyright laws were never really updated or reformed, leading to what we heard in this video.
@bewzmo3476
@bewzmo3476 2 жыл бұрын
Wait how does charging more make ppl less pirate things?
@HelloOnepiece
@HelloOnepiece 2 жыл бұрын
@@bewzmo3476 people pirates the same amount, but income is about tha same since honest customers pay more
@bewzmo3476
@bewzmo3476 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloOnepiece Umm I'm sorry I still don't get the logistic of this
@starandeath4735
@starandeath4735 2 жыл бұрын
@@bewzmo3476 you pay for 5 share of people who pirate when you buy a 300$ as an honest consumer. Its their way of tackling this issue
@bewzmo3476
@bewzmo3476 2 жыл бұрын
@@starandeath4735 owh I get it thank you
@brandnewontheinternet9024
@brandnewontheinternet9024 2 жыл бұрын
"take a shot everytime i say the word video by the way" ummmmmmm. joey idk about you my man but I want to live lol
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, those kinda shots. Seriously thought he ment screenshots.... Now what am I supposed to do with all these pics?
@amysteriouspersonintophat1458
@amysteriouspersonintophat1458 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkDragonSlayer That's a great idea :D I will screenshot the screenshots and sell it for an even higher price.
@coppinger2672
@coppinger2672 2 жыл бұрын
絶対ファスト映画見たことなくて草
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, Fair Use has been going more and more out the window for a while, anyway. So long as some company has the rights to something, they won't hesitate to strike at the first movement they see. Doesn't matter if it's for educational puporses, if it's transformative, or anything. That's why people like Gaijin Goomba have a hard time making some actual interesting/analytical/educational content. Looking at you, Last Samurai video.
@technophobian2962
@technophobian2962 2 жыл бұрын
Fair use is a copyright limitation unique to the US. Other countries haves similar doctrines, but they don't let you do as much as fair use. Afaik, Japan does not have any sort of fair use or fair dealing law.
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 2 жыл бұрын
@@technophobian2962 As Joey mentioned, KZbin itself has some guidelines and rules around the Fair Use concept, and is used internationaly. One would thing some countries would take that into account, and yet...
@XxjeffersonDkidxX
@XxjeffersonDkidxX 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adraeth the government gave this monopoly power to companies so they will use and abuse this power.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adraeth What a company decides doesn't matter for governments. And it's a good thing. Companies shouldn't be above the law of a country. Also, it's a good thing laws from other countries don't apply to your country, and vice versa. Different countries means different realities, which means different laws are needed. It's just common sense. What isn't a good thing is how backwards some governments are when it comes to the Internet. They could amend their laws to make them more suitable for our century, but a lot of them just don't. I do hope it's gonna change in the near future, as older politicians retire and younger ones who actually understand the era we live in are elected in their place.
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mercure250 I didn't meant they should take company policies as laws, just that they could have thought about it since their own laws are outdated and the people deciding them are 30 years behind to the point of not understanding the things they're supposed to decide laws for.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 жыл бұрын
"Take a shot every time I say the word video by the way" Me: Guess I'll die. All jokes aside though, the copyright laws in Japan is insane. You have a better chance getting away with taking someone's life, than getting away with crossing the fair use policy.
@bmo3778
@bmo3778 2 жыл бұрын
I just read a crime-psychology manga and I can say that's interesting
@drsonaligupta75
@drsonaligupta75 2 жыл бұрын
Gigguk who does anime reviews and shows snippets: _nervous sweating_
@eiric6958
@eiric6958 2 жыл бұрын
Yi
@Aura96968
@Aura96968 2 жыл бұрын
@@bmo3778 sauce?
@itzflamezblade5284
@itzflamezblade5284 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aura96968 bloody monday
@koentje8415
@koentje8415 2 жыл бұрын
What bothers me the most with situations like these is that we end up jailing people who are NOT criminals. UK jails and fines people for using "insulting" language. Japan jails and fines people for using a movie clip. How is this okay?
@soursweet45
@soursweet45 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it just becomes a waste of resources and money - and then those who set up those laws complain about lack of funding for law enforcement ?
@enjel1147
@enjel1147 2 жыл бұрын
Its moments like these that make me really hate interacting with the 3D world ngl
@LeNavarog
@LeNavarog 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget America, we jail people based on looks and skin color alone
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeNavarog America has not done that in a long time. Cancel them and get them fired sure but not jail them based on skin color or looks. Though if you have natural porcelain skin the doctors might try to keep you as they would think you are still sick and then they might think you are anorexic as it is hard to see the muscle on that skin tone
@Nikolai508
@Nikolai508 2 жыл бұрын
Proof that despite what they say it isn't about rehabilitation, it's about punishment and vengeance.
@matsukazetonbokiri4874
@matsukazetonbokiri4874 2 жыл бұрын
ファスト映画をレビューと言い換えることで誤解に次ぐ誤解で日本下げしてくれてどうもありがとう 次からは半端な知識で語るのはやめてね
@gabeortiz632
@gabeortiz632 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that Fair Use isn’t an actual law, it’s a legal defense, which means it can only be utilized in court, which a lot of KZbinrs can’t really afford to take part in.
@DominoPivot
@DominoPivot 2 жыл бұрын
It is a legal doctrine established by legal precedents in many countries (and as pointed out by another commentator below it is a law in the US) but its boundaries are indeed blurry enough that it's only useful when trying to defend yourself in court. If you can't afford going to court in the first place, it doesn't give you much power.
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
@corneliusmcmuffin3256 2 жыл бұрын
@@DominoPivot I don’t believe Japan has the same precedents for fair use as countries like the US or UK
@qtheplatypus
@qtheplatypus 2 жыл бұрын
It is a part of the law in the US. 17 U.S.C. § 107
@mr.applejuice8546
@mr.applejuice8546 2 жыл бұрын
And that's only a thing in the US and some other European countries. Unfortunatly Japan being Japan, they don't have any sort of fair use law. This is probably the main reason why "japanesse youtubers" don't post content outside of them doing something in their house or outside
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
In America... It Fair Use is a law, but only if you follow its written law... Avoid grey areas, if possible. Only fools sue in a losing lawsuit or are fraudulent in nature... In regard to American Copyright Law.
@2muchjpop
@2muchjpop 2 жыл бұрын
If only Mark lived in Japan... Toei wants to arrest his ass so bad
@redjoker
@redjoker 2 жыл бұрын
Out of complete curiousity, I've always wondered how Garnt manages to get away with with techinally using Japanese copyrighted material in his videos while being the biggest anituber on the platform and living in Japan. Maybe Kadokawa got him the rights? Or the anime side of things don't give as much of a fuck? Or perhaps they ignore the English speaking side of things? Just a bit worried considering what happened here. Hope you boys stay safe.
@turtlecosmic
@turtlecosmic 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the anime side definitely gives a fuck and they definitely care about the English ones too. I'm guessing he has permission
@denizgurel9147
@denizgurel9147 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that’s exactly what I was thinking a minute ago. You’ve literally read my mind.
@bigpigperry
@bigpigperry 2 жыл бұрын
Gigguk's vedios are heavily edited.
@lilmrmagoo
@lilmrmagoo 2 жыл бұрын
If they arrest a foreigner on something like that then the home country would get involved and it would damage japans reputation. Esspicailly since garnt has a following so it wouldn't be able to be hidden.
@denizgurel9147
@denizgurel9147 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigpigperry Yea but the guys that got arrested used only screen shots and little clips of the movies they talked about. As far as I know that’s much less content than what Gigguk uses in his videos.
@smokers1231000
@smokers1231000 2 жыл бұрын
This explains why Nintendo is suing people and taking down all kinds of fan made games/materials involving their property, it doesn’t matter if it is made out of passion or releasing it for free.
@ZXNovaBoom
@ZXNovaBoom 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile other Japanese companies like SEGA don't do the same crap Nintendo does. It doesn't matter what the law says, it's a matter if they'll enforce these crappy archaic laws. And Nintendo is evil for the crap that they have been doing.
@YujiUedaFan
@YujiUedaFan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZXNovaBoom True, SEGA is scummy, but at least they hire people who are good at making fan games instead of arresting them.
@zarajenking
@zarajenking 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost getting to the point where you can't use any audio/video/image for content online without getting copyright claimed or even arrested, I thought we were supposed to be progressing forward as a society not backwards 😠😩
@ramel684
@ramel684 2 жыл бұрын
This is progress from the perspective of the large corporations that control the majority of the worlds IP and who have spent many years buying politicians to write restrictive copyright laws for them.
@daffaagung
@daffaagung 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on whose perspective we're talking about. From a company perspective, reaction channel, gaming channel, and even review content play a huge role in their sale. Like, think about it, monetising a review video? You're making profit by just talking about a project someone else made, almost no effort put in there. Theres plenty other platform for reviews like MAL, or Rotten Tomatoes, etc. But at the same time, a well done review video (mostly like what garnt did on how he put comedy stuff and good editing) give a free promotion and attention to things that people wont notice without it. Like, i remember People complaining about atlus giving a strict rule not to stream Persona 5 up to a certain point, when they have every right to do so. But people act as if atlus is doing something wrong when technically every game is protected under copyright law unless they specifically said a-ok to stream it. Stuff like that makes you question what passable as fair use.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramel684 The Extinction of Mankind will be a wonderful show... Especially those who can replace them.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@daffaagung Hail to Corruption... Such is the old war... It never truly ended.
@ramel684
@ramel684 2 жыл бұрын
@@daffaagung "Like, think about it, monetising a review video? You're making profit by just talking about a project someone else made, almost no effort put in there" That argument would apply equally to all forms of journalism, product reviews, and and history text books. And exactly what do you think those reviews on "other platforms" do differently?
@Killer66hitman
@Killer66hitman 2 жыл бұрын
Explains why Hololive is so precious about what it greenlight's the girls the play/sing etc
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
In regard to America Copyright Law... Play games on Stream is a grey area... But reviewing or creating a Parody of a game through Fair Use etc. Works both ways... It's good to have home base for both sides of the jurisdictions... But Hololive is cautious about it, either way.
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the massive video purge. Some even just outright deleted. Hell, I just knew that HoloGra used to have some anime parody like FSN Heaven’s Feel
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 2 жыл бұрын
They literally have to keep asking for permission to be able to advertise game for free there lmao Like if they allow you today, doesn't mean they gonna allow you to play the same game next week.
@jarotheboar8398
@jarotheboar8398 2 жыл бұрын
- jail time for modding things - Can't go places because of any tattoo - Afraid of the number 4 and 9 - Over working employees to literal death - and now getting Arrested just because they reviewed a film If this doesn't show that fiction is more realistic than reality, then I don't know what will Edit: found out that Japan doesn't have the highest suicide rates in the world, even tho I was specifically talking about Japan alone, but it's my bad still, I apologize
@andergarcia4953
@andergarcia4953 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot negative population growth numbers and adult diapers being bought more than babies being born. Sounds like something out of Children of Men.
@jarotheboar8398
@jarotheboar8398 2 жыл бұрын
@@andergarcia4953 well that, I didn't know about that, still awful And thanks for pointing that out for me
@johnnymcjohnson1373
@johnnymcjohnson1373 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot that you will also get thrown in jail for a crumb of marijuana too
@HellishPumpkin
@HellishPumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, jail time for modding games? The Half-Life 2 community will go crazy in Japan.
@gigacat1703
@gigacat1703 2 жыл бұрын
Still better than america KEKW
@markhenrykern
@markhenrykern 2 жыл бұрын
“Pay the damages” is such bull too, they are free advertising… at least in the west, you have to actually prove that their taking of your copyright product negatively impacted your sales. Reviewers increase awareness of the product without actually providing you with the product.
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 2 жыл бұрын
That would be easy to prove if it is a negative review
@spelcheak
@spelcheak 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena not just any negative impact, it should have to be a market substitute.
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 2 жыл бұрын
the only way to fight this is by boycotting the company
@momogi618
@momogi618 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena negative publicity is still publicity
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 2 жыл бұрын
@@momogi618 only if you don't get cancelled from it
@phloriaernas2149
@phloriaernas2149 2 жыл бұрын
A: "I killed a man." B: "I rob banks." C: "I kill people and rob banks." D: "Please go easy on me, I narrated movie reviews." A, B, and C: *"... GUARDSSS!!! Get me away from this celll! PLEASEEE!! I'm gonna geet KILLED!!!"*
@megahkfre
@megahkfre 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, those videos pretty much describe the movie in full. It isn't really a review. Once someone watches it, they will know the full story and probably won't watch the movie anymore.
@nykaragua_
@nykaragua_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I didn't know spoiling a movie on the internet was illegal. I guess wikipedia plot summaries should also be taken down.
@markjaeger2668
@markjaeger2668 2 жыл бұрын
How does Gigguk/ Garnt not get absolutely destroyed over this then… he’s got tons of clips from anime…
@Truecrimeresearcher224
@Truecrimeresearcher224 2 жыл бұрын
Anime is probably different than a movie. Also maybe cause his KZbin account was probably made in a different country it follows the laws the person is a citizen of
@ApCupofOdon
@ApCupofOdon 2 жыл бұрын
garnt doesn't have a Japanese Google account for his KZbin channel. But the people that Joey is talking about have a Japanese KZbin account so they get different rules. Also Garnt knows some of the studios.
@markjaeger2668
@markjaeger2668 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 given the fact that Japan is extremely xenophobic that would make me worry a lot more, although Joey says specifically JAPANESE KZbin channel so ur probably rihht
@jblubber7037
@jblubber7037 2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s why Joey said “that’s why I haven’t opened a Japanese KZbin account “ I’m assuming Garnt has a UK account
@nexusprime2487
@nexusprime2487 2 жыл бұрын
@@jblubber7037 Does he meant by not creating one in Japan or is it something else? since his 2nd Channel Joey was created in Japan.
@小舟大船
@小舟大船 2 жыл бұрын
実際の事件の内容と伝えている内容がズレてます。これは自分自身を擁護するための言い訳じゃん。
@JakesterX52
@JakesterX52 2 жыл бұрын
Listen, I understand that you don't blame them for thier views on copyright, but really? 2 years of jail? Why can't they just claim it and make all the money they would anyway instead of resorting to such extreme measures?
@eriklagergren7124
@eriklagergren7124 2 жыл бұрын
It's to discorage others from doing the same, but what it actually does, is making everyone hate the company
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 2 жыл бұрын
I hate using this word but Boomers thats why they think nothing is going to change unless there is some sort of hard punishment towards every infraction even if it is very small and not malicious just to discourage others from doing it which in turn makes them start losing money and wonder why
@thenoobgamer95
@thenoobgamer95 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Preeeeeeeeetty much
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
If you could read the article, it says that numerous copyright violation statements were being filed from different companies, and the defendant simply continued to create their contents from … the companies that they didn’t receive any complaints from. They had plenty of time to acknowledge the illegality of their activity. Plus, the article also states that they were sentenced 3-4 years of probation so they won’t be going to jail -unless they do the same thing again or commit other crimes.
@JK-xf1dw
@JK-xf1dw 2 жыл бұрын
This article literally says they got probation, Joey skipped over it though. And caused many people misunderstanding.
@junyichong
@junyichong 2 жыл бұрын
From what I have read, ファスト映画 (fast movie) isn't the typical movie review or breakdown like what we used to watch in the west. It's making summary of movies without adding any value/opinion, which I doubt would fall under "fair use" even in the US. This kind of videos is quite popular in the Chinese side of KZbin (not sure about in Japan) but I have not seen any in English. There was even a famous Taiwanese youtuber who got into lawsuit for making "Watch abc movie in 5 minutes" videos few years ago.
@Kaimax61
@Kaimax61 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the core problem isn't fair use. It's effing making a summary of the movie so you don't have to watch it anymore.
@jiyama
@jiyama 2 жыл бұрын
"Hi, Movie Recaps here"
@aa-ml6ur
@aa-ml6ur 2 жыл бұрын
this
@k4zuh1r0
@k4zuh1r0 2 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing many English channels with similar ideas being recommended to me. Off the top of my head Daniel CC Movies, Mystery Recapped, Story Recapped, and a few more. To be honest, I've probably watched hundreds of recap videos in the past few months and I basically have zero interest in watching those movies now since I know what happens. At least for the channels I've mentioned, calling them "reviews" might be a stretch as they are usually a scene by scene summary of the movies. Some of the channels at least throw in some jokes, but I don't know if that is enough for fair use or not.
@JK-xf1dw
@JK-xf1dw 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment is spot on. The video that makes money by just explaining the whole movie using their clips is not a "review", and it is not the problem of "fair use". It's also not an "advertisement" because the viewer can know the ending of the movie in that video and won't watch the original movie. They will be punished in one way or another in any country, even in the United States. Many people here criticize the Japanese legal system, misunderstanding what they have actually done.
@angelsinthewindow
@angelsinthewindow 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this feels like another thing to show how Japan is still in the dark ages when it comes to their laws and rules about certain things. Japan shows the world that they are so forward thinking in terms of tech but then they are stepping so far back with the laws. I feel like Japan really needs some of the younger generation in their law makers side in order to change some of those laws. Wasn't just a year or two ago that there was a law that said that hotels could not turn away people just because of their sexual orientation. I know the rest of the world also has problems with these sorts of laws but they seem so much better then Japan right now in that. Love Japan, am scared of the extremely strict laws that are very old school thought.
@MrFunTuber123
@MrFunTuber123 2 жыл бұрын
I mean that's why they always say, japan is definitely fun if you are visiting as a tourist but if you are living there then that's a totally different story. I love japan but i can't imagine myself living there
@antaris905
@antaris905 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the boys said it best in one of the Trash Taste episode: Before the Japanese have a meeting, they’ll have another meeting to decide whether or not they should have a meeting. The only time Japanese hastily changes a law is when a tragedy has already happened.
@youssefelbouzidi1016
@youssefelbouzidi1016 2 жыл бұрын
Tech in japan is not advanced either… (fax machines). Sadly, the younger generation can’t do sh*t because the system is made so that you gain more power and money the older you are, young people are simply ignored. I don’t know how, but I hope that will change in the future.
@teiadam134
@teiadam134 2 жыл бұрын
The rest of the world has these problems but the key thing is that Japan is a first world so called democracy leader that has these problems
@ravenwraith1017
@ravenwraith1017 2 жыл бұрын
@@teiadam134 “first world” doesn’t mean much technically. Just signals which side they took in the Cold War. “Developed” might be what you are thinking of
@imry0586
@imry0586 2 жыл бұрын
この動画のタイトルを見て勘違いしてしまった。「ファスト映画」と呼ばれるものを何か知らなかったから概要を知らべたけど、これらは所謂映画の批評や解説の動画ではないんだね。映画本編そのものをおよそ10分に短縮編集した映画/動画ってことでしょ。しかも動画によって金銭的な利益を上げている。今まで野放しになっていただけで権利者が訴えさえすれば最も寛大なアメリカのフェアユース法に当てはめても著作権侵害になると思うけど。
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, copyright laws are absolutely archaic in Japan…
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 2 жыл бұрын
When you see that the guy in charge of cyberstuff in Japan doesn't know what a USB Drive is, are you really that surprised ?
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni 2 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking that Japan was at the cutting edge of technology…shows you what I know
@g76agi
@g76agi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni well they are, except the people that make the cutting edge technology dont have authority over the old fashioned folks who got into the business when floppy disks were in fashion
@scipioafricanus2071
@scipioafricanus2071 2 жыл бұрын
@@g76agi I don't know man 99,7% of japanese corporations and companies still use fax, a lot. And not just to communicate with the outdated burocratie. I'd say most cutting edge technologies today are being researched and developed in China, the USA and South Korea. Even Toyota's future Solid State Batteries were developed in cooperation with Samsung, and I believe most of the patents are run through Samsung itself.
@hiddenarmy
@hiddenarmy 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the whole world is so archaic. It's dumb when a company can almost have 70++years of copyright / patent and somehow they can keep extend it to infinity and the gov did nothing.
@hhhieronymusbotch
@hhhieronymusbotch 2 жыл бұрын
Joey: "it's not until 4 or 5 years ago that the term 'youtube' & 'youtuber' were considered a normal thing & even considered an occupation" My brain: "AHHHR YOUUU YOOUTUUBAAH?!"
@aiwash2766
@aiwash2766 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I enjoy these videos where Joey just read an article and talks about em, pretty chill
@ignatz2
@ignatz2 2 жыл бұрын
when a guy gets 2 years for making movie reviews but the teenagers responsible for the Junko Furuta case get only a few years, thats when you know that japan's law is fucked.
@kaeri1853
@kaeri1853 2 жыл бұрын
I think each country has their own fucked laws.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaeri1853 You're not wrong... It's a shame on all sides.
@beki7408
@beki7408 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaeri1853 ok and?
@Aura96968
@Aura96968 2 жыл бұрын
She literally gone through 40 days of hell. 40 fuckin' days of abuse torture and many more... f japan honestly. tho I love ani this ain't it chief
@Jafar_maher
@Jafar_maher 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget the japanese cannibal that is still free to this day
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
This actually explains a lot of what Nintendo's practices are. I know that the Mario community in USA and Canada had huge issues playing Nintendo games as they would have their stuff claimed when it should have been considered "fair use". Even today, Twitch cannot play a certain Castle Theme because of these laws and it made Nintendo seem petty. However, understanding that the concept of fair use doesn't exist in Japan gives some reasoning to their actions.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
True... But even Nintendo cannot exceed Fair Use (as it is written in law) in America... But justice is a costly victory for Profit.
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 but they can copywright claim the music... They used to be netorious, but eventually started to see how the community was helping their sales and have become a lot more lenient. Still a pain, but at least you can play the new games online without a copywright strike.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maninawig American Fair Use Law does not protect against gameplay or music unless you are criticizing (or using Fair Use as written) about the gameplay or music itself. Even now. Nintendo can still yoink the DMCA unless the videos are of the particular Fair Use Categories in America. They only choose not to.
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 most DMCAs are rejected because the streamer normally speaks through it about their own things or criticize the game, making it transformative. That said, Nintendo attacks full force, with music and everything, often leaving the Mario community using other music while playing SMM2, for example in order to become fully compliant with fair use laws. Remember that KZbin does not care about Fair Use laws during a DMCA takedown or a copywright claim. They have been caught giving random people a channel's money for literally a completely blank audio clip.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maninawig Only because no one has money to enforce the law properly... But it is to be expected as the norm... "Who controls the world?"
@coppinger2672
@coppinger2672 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Japanese but I think this video is lacking in explanation. And the comment section helped me understand why Japan is often misunderstood on the internet.
@plastic8570
@plastic8570 2 жыл бұрын
What about that japanese girl who was arrested for making anime theme cakes, Japan sometimes is a big joke
@cream9292
@cream9292 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested in knowing what Garnt's thoughts on this are, considering a lot of his videos mostly consist of anime clips and screenshots from various companies around Japan. Tbh, I'm a little concerned for him.
@mr.applejuice8546
@mr.applejuice8546 2 жыл бұрын
Garnt is employed under a company that is owned by kadokawa. Aka pretty much the largest anime studio joint company. Furthermore, he receives many sponsorships from markets like bookwalker so by all senses of the word unless garnt does something REALLY illegal, kadokawa basically has him covered. He'll they hired joey,connor,garnt and many other anime content creators knowing this in mind as well.
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Joey didn’t see the contents of the said “Fast movie” account. I did, and I can say that it would be quite a stretch to call them movie reviews. Basically, they shrink the entire movie into 20 mins, remove the audio, and add the narration to fill the gap. It’s like JPEG where you still can enjoy the art piece despite some of the details being trimmed off. Since you get almost the entirety of the story telling, I felt the same sensation / satisfaction after watching a long movie to an extent that I didn’t feel the need to watch the longer version. Is this “fair use”? It’s gray, but pretty likely it is not.
@runescapedreamer450
@runescapedreamer450 2 жыл бұрын
So its like the youtube channel foundflix
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
@@runescapedreamer450 looked at one of his videos; his voice was so obnoxious I couldn’t bear watching it
@runescapedreamer450
@runescapedreamer450 2 жыл бұрын
@@keinick4569 It does sound like he got nasal congestion 24/7 XD
@kokunaijin
@kokunaijin 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeh, throw them in jail then with hard labour. Can't have poor people using their initiative and doing in 20 mins what many millions and a massive corporation can do in 1-4 years, can we?
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
@@kokunaijin uh if you could actually read the article, it says 3-4 years of probation period, so no, they are not going to to jail. Criminal record hurts a lot in Japan, but they accepted their sentence. If they thought the sentence was unlawful/unconstitutional, they could appeal to high court. But seemingly they didn’t.
@Kiki-wi2gp
@Kiki-wi2gp 2 жыл бұрын
ここのコメント欄の人日本のファスト映画がどんなもの分かってるの?訂正みたいな感じで言ってくれてる人いるけど。(アメリカにはそういうの無い?らしい) 日本の著作権に関しては著作権持ってる人に委ねられるからそこまで厳しいと思わないけどな...。本人や会社に聞いたら良いだけだし。まぁ英語雰囲気での理解だから間違ってるかもしれない
@ft6460
@ft6460 2 жыл бұрын
この記事だと分かりづらいけど、そもそも問題は一つの映画の結末まで含めて映像もそのまま短く編集して荒稼ぎしたことであるのに、Joeyの説明のおかげでコメントを見る限りただのレビュー系動画で捕まったと勘違いして批判している人がたくさんいますね。 それとJoeyが記事の懲役と罰金の部分だけ読んでその間の執行猶予の部分を読み飛ばしたことも大きな勘違いを引き起こしてると思います。 そりゃ「映画をレビューした人が逮捕されて懲役と罰金くらった」って教えられただけなら批判したくなるけど。彼は動画内では実際の事件の詳細よりも自分の意見を言う方に重きを置いて作ってるのでほとんどのコメントもそちらに流されてますね。
@zeusolympus1664
@zeusolympus1664 2 жыл бұрын
Next Japanese news headline: Youtuba gets arrested for playing "loud summer cicadas" sound.
@Truecrimeresearcher224
@Truecrimeresearcher224 2 жыл бұрын
Or yells at them for making noise and the cicadas get arrested
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 2 жыл бұрын
"KZbinr gets arrested for talking about article about youtuber getting arrested".
@Nestalgba92023
@Nestalgba92023 2 жыл бұрын
Like what? Some stock sound effect?
@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Japan's justice system is possibly one of the most terrifying in the developed world, a 99% conviction rate doesn't happen in a system that is functioning properly and things like this only make it scarier.
@Meimoons
@Meimoons 2 жыл бұрын
The 99% conviction rate is a lie. In Japan, you are guilty until proven innocent. Unless you can prove that you're innocent, many people who have been convicted are pressured or even harassed to admit guilty to a crime they may not have committed, ensuring that the police have caught someone to be responsible (even if they're innocent), thus adding to their conviction rates.
@youssefelbouzidi1016
@youssefelbouzidi1016 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meimoons that’s false. In Japan you are innocent until proven guilty like any other country. The problem is not that part of the law that’s fucked up, it’s the people. As you said they try to find a reason to find you guilty at every cost and they don’t take their job seriously, partially because the system allows you to do so. I’m just saying it because in case something even happens to you, just resist and without a confession of proof they can’t do sh*t.
@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Meimoons Yeah maybe I worded it poorly but that was kind of my point. A 99% conviction is completely impossible without extreme levels of corruption... allegedly
@abhishekdasgupta9239
@abhishekdasgupta9239 2 жыл бұрын
@@powwowken2760 I guess you played Ace Attorney Ace Attorney really shows the truth, Japanese legal system is a joke, worse than most developing countries, not even going to compare it to developed countries. This makes Phoenix Wright an even greater hero of a defence attorney.
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekdasgupta9239 do you seriously believe Ace Attorney is an exact mirror of the real legal system in Japan? That’s worse than weeks claiming that the Japanese life is the same as anime.
@TheNuclearGeek
@TheNuclearGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm gen X. They existed when dialup was the norm. Hell, the internet is just an offshoot of an initial governmental network. Now, this is a USA perspective...As to what they can get them for, it's easy to get laws to fit these things. For example, you can't release early information that depreciates the value of a company's stock if it's privileged information. It's usually used the other way around, as insider trading. But it's just as legal to financially harm an entity (remember that corporations ARE essentially people). A copyrighted material is also treated essentially as a practical item like say Aluminum. People don't seem to get that laws rarely exist anywhere near the question it's supposed to answer. Most "common law" countries laws are established by lawsuit. This is just another example.
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni
@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the ‘corporations are people’ concept could only be found in the States?
@TheNuclearGeek
@TheNuclearGeek 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni It is, well it definitely is, and I obviously don't know every other country's interpretation on corporations. That is why I stated at the beginning it was from a USA perspective. But one REALLY important thing to remember is that Alphabet, google & KZbin's parent company is incorporated in the USA. So, any legal case will take place in the US unless the specific video is country restricted AND KZbin operates some kind of permanent business within said country. They've already won that argument in legal cases before. But, it also opened them up to things like US anti-trust lawsuits. Honestly, when you think just how old KZbin is now. When business done world wide was first started on the internet you see just how much the law lags behind the technology and it happens for every technology. Is it right for say a Mexican company to sue a Spanish KZbinr and have the case held literally anywhere and say it's fair?
@ravenwraith1017
@ravenwraith1017 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christi-Ann.Pierantoni …wrong. dead wrong. Actually started in Britain.
@BSAnime
@BSAnime 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me very much of Nintendo. Makes fantastic games but when it comes to online, they are archaic and not competent... not to mention they used to copyright strike a lot of YT content in the recent past. I love a lot of stuff about Japan, but many things (like copyright) in Japan are still stuck in the past. Hopefully they will slowly improve.
@ThePsylopAt
@ThePsylopAt 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they could have gotten a ban and warning to not doing it again but damn, actual jail sentence and like 2 years? That's harsh and above and beyond, I can understand the "it's wrong so don't do it" side of view but nobody died, nobody was actually armed here other than maybe some company felt harmed (not that there is proof they actually got harmed) so more than a warning is a big wtf to me, I know I'm kind of an idealist but come one, let people enjoy themselves as long as it doesn't harm other too much and looking at Alcohol laws in Japan, this is just ridiculous
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
The justice system in Japan has never been one for "evidence of the cause"... Maybe I'm wrong but it's an outdated way of the law.
@Nomnomnom12
@Nomnomnom12 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wingzero90939 only east asia
@D0UTEI
@D0UTEI 2 жыл бұрын
Joey, that wasn't movie reviews. They just explain story of movies with spoiler.
@Wimbold
@Wimbold 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless, none of that warrants huge compensation or jail time.
@oldcowbb
@oldcowbb 2 жыл бұрын
i don't know about this specific guy, but there are a lot of "review" channels that basically speedrun the entire plot of movies in couple minute, definitely effortless and affecting the movie
@niefanx
@niefanx 2 жыл бұрын
Do they really review the movies, like Roger Ebert style or are they one of those channels that just retell the story of a movie to give people the illusion that they have watched the movie? If the later then I have no sympathy for them regardless of copyright. Because that kind of “review” murders the art and the purpose of a movie. People who watch those kind of video to get to know a movie will never experience the art anymore.
@AngellishV
@AngellishV 2 жыл бұрын
There is an Argentinian channel called "Te lo resumo así nomás" that practically does the same thing and they never had a problem with KZbin or the original copyright holders... as far as I know.
@inendlesspain4724
@inendlesspain4724 2 жыл бұрын
@@nexustom5823 Lo bueno del internet hispanohablante es que somo mas ignorados por la misma gente que le hace la vida imposible a los creadores de contenido de habla inglesa con el tema del copyright.
@sechabatheletsane9784
@sechabatheletsane9784 2 жыл бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 lol. True.
@thenoobgamer95
@thenoobgamer95 2 жыл бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 eeeeeeeeso si es verdad :u
@veggsbacon1891
@veggsbacon1891 2 жыл бұрын
*WTF Japan?* moment right there.
@aterriblesliceoftoast
@aterriblesliceoftoast 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine wanting to review and share your thoughts with people. The *audacity*
@gdore15
@gdore15 2 жыл бұрын
But is there not already some exceptions to copyright in Japanese law ? Article 32 say that you can "quote" material for news reporting and review. Could it be that the copyright holders considered that the amount of content used was not within the boundary of "fair practice" ? I have not seen the type of video they made, but maybe using 100% of copyrighted visual would be a bit too far as opposed as inserting clips and images with footage of the reporter (more like what you do yourself). 第三十二条 公表された著作物は、引用して利用することができる。この場合において、その引用は、公正な慣行に合致するものであり、かつ、報道、批評、研究その他の引用の目的上正当な範囲内で行なわれるものでなければならない。 Article 32 (1) It is permissible to quote and thereby exploit a work that has been made public. In such a case, the work must be quoted consistent with fair practices and within a scope that is justified for the purpose of news reporting, critique, study, or other place in which the work is quoted.
@rugino3614
@rugino3614 2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time a Japanese Streamer says "is this ok?" While playing Henry stickmin. Sucks the fun out of such a masterful experience.
@taroubb1940
@taroubb1940 2 жыл бұрын
I thought ファスト映画 was not reviews. They are abridged version of full movies. It makes a viewer able to understand the entire story without watching the full movie. Kinda like a cliff's notes version of a movie.
@Tachibana_Tsukasa
@Tachibana_Tsukasa 2 жыл бұрын
The article says 解説 or explanation/ summary. Was it actually a review channel or was it a summary channel because just summarizing could bring tangible losses for copyright holders. Also fair use is a u.s. law not a youtube thing(though could be just a verbal slip by joey), and even u.s. companies can freely sue you, they just don't because youtube's copyright system brings more profit than suing a person who will just file bankruptcy after. There's a tom scott video on the whole youtube copyright mess.
@fandyllic1975
@fandyllic1975 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, but there should be more talk about how conservative and pro-corporate the Japanese government is…
@lollybirdy
@lollybirdy 2 жыл бұрын
How.... Why... What??????
@higon99
@higon99 2 жыл бұрын
Joey. Upload a 10 minutes footage from a Hollywood blockbuster, call it "Review" then turn "monetization on". USA law will forgive you according to your rant against Japanese law. You don't think so huh? You are spreading false information, dude. I can't believe you did this. Just look at extremely negative comments against the country.
@Xerxesjc28
@Xerxesjc28 2 жыл бұрын
Really sad to have 3 lives ruined for something so trivial in a place like Japan. From what I have read (and I know very little so correct me if I am wrong) Japanese jails are pretty horrific places to be, more comparable to US jails then European ones (in their treatment of prisoners).
@eriklagergren7124
@eriklagergren7124 2 жыл бұрын
Japan will have it really rough in the future. We might even be looking at a total collapse of the country
@youssefelbouzidi1016
@youssefelbouzidi1016 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriklagergren7124 yeah I actually think so too. And despite I love japan I honestly think they deserve it. I mean that country is just fucked up. Lot of stuff just shouldn’t exist in this world exist there. Probably due to the fact that they developed really fast and than collapsed. If only they could resolve their economic crisis and start some kind of movements for their rights…
@kappa5809
@kappa5809 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriklagergren7124 So a country should collapse because of bad copyright policy?
@haatothetomato
@haatothetomato 2 жыл бұрын
@@kappa5809 I think that person worded that poorly, Japan may have tons of ups, but it also has alot of long term problems the rest of the world doesnt really struggle with the same way, and only takes superfical and pointless means to fix the symptoms (not even the main symptoms) and ignoring the problems, or not even recognizing the problems at all. Because they dont teach economics in most Japanese schools they dont even know how fucked they are in regardes to the ecomomy. Their Copywright law barely registers as among these problems, more of a symptom really. I love Japan but I am geninuely concerned about its uncertain future and lack of meaningful positive socio-economic or cultural change.
@kappa5809
@kappa5809 2 жыл бұрын
@@haatothetomato That's true. Even I at one point thought Japan to be a country where everything works perfectly. Even had long term plans to study and work there. However, after finding out about the darkv side of Japan, I am really not sure about these plans anymore. Japan no doubt is still a great place to live but it's definitely not the best. I think in the 90s Japan was comparable to Scandinavian countries in terms of living standards and per capita income but now it's more similer France and Italy.
@prismaticc_abyss
@prismaticc_abyss Жыл бұрын
Japan lives 100 years in the fucking past
@ZeeengMicro
@ZeeengMicro 2 жыл бұрын
From my half-assed Japanese: TLDR of the article, The first guy got sentenced to 2 years in prison and fined 17.500 USD, the second guy got jail time for 1 year + 6 months and fined 8700 USD, and the third guy received the same 1 year + 6 months jail time and fined for 4300 USD. Although the "main" (there are more) problem arose from infringing the copyrights of Nikkatsu and Toho, the one who is actually pulling the string is *The Content Overseas Distribution Association* (CODA). I was genuinely surprised when back then I'd learned that Joey actually has been living in Japan, considering the stuff he's been making.
@gamerant1420
@gamerant1420 2 жыл бұрын
His videos might not be available in japan, after all you have the tools to block your videos in specific territories.
@teo-7242
@teo-7242 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling they'll be gossiped about by the people around them for the rest of their lives for spending time in jail
@andreicezarrusu4616
@andreicezarrusu4616 2 жыл бұрын
@@teo-7242 Not only that, but Japan has a habbit of harrasing the family members, eithe rthe media or others, due to their culture
@keinick4569
@keinick4569 2 жыл бұрын
Full Japanese here. I would like to add that the sentence includes 3-4 years of probation/suspension meaning that they are not going to jail unless they commit another crime during those years. I see people freaking out that they are immediately going to jail. No, it’s not like that.
@ZeeengMicro
@ZeeengMicro 2 жыл бұрын
@@keinick4569 But the article said (in this line "一方、3名の弁護側は反省の態度が見られるなどとして、執行猶予付きの判決を求めていた,") that they are (the defendants or suspect) still trying to appeal for that suspension, right? So they have yet granted that suspension. Or did I read it wrong?
@matthewpol7708
@matthewpol7708 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be glad you're in Japan and not China. After releasing videos like this, you'd definitely "disappear" over there. Lol, much love from Utah, Joey!
@PhantomDogman
@PhantomDogman 2 жыл бұрын
Some worker in Japanese movie company "Somebody made review video that works as free ad." Company's boss: "Sue them so they go to jail and pay somebody to make ad for movie."
@NoSirNotTodayOrTomorrow
@NoSirNotTodayOrTomorrow 2 жыл бұрын
A step backwards for society in Japan, man was going to prison over a movie review.
@inspiringer6418
@inspiringer6418 2 жыл бұрын
One piece live action, yikes
@alubto
@alubto 2 жыл бұрын
In Taiwan, we have similar arrest, as a digest is not considered fair use. Also fair use doesn’t exist in many countries, but in Japan, “reference” or quoting is OK, they need a better lawyer
@astrowolvez
@astrowolvez 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of permission I’ve seen creators actually get approval to make a video but then one person involved with the movie will be angry and try to get the video taken down or even harass the creator.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 2 жыл бұрын
I´ve read an article about the case and it seems there wheren´t really reviews, what actually they did is making what is called "fast movies", where they read the entire synopsis of movies, something akin to read the plot in a Wikipedia page but also including some frames of said films, if I´ve understood correctly. Is this should be illegal or not I´m not sure.
@blue-hollyhock
@blue-hollyhock 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The title of this video is misleading. It is very obvious that Joey did not do his homework.
@imarock.7662
@imarock.7662 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of TotallyNotMarks situation. I fucking hate Japans copyright laws.
@HSNG10
@HSNG10 2 жыл бұрын
This is not fair use. Such fast narrative movie "reviews" are not reviews. They are a condensed form of showing the movie, explained with an irritatingly fast paced, blow by blow narration of the entire movie. There is no incentive to go see the movie after that. In this case, I would venture to say the Japanese police is right. This channel is mixing up reaction videos, actual reviews, and such fast paced narration of the entire movie. Check out the most rampant use of such narrative "reviews" - mainland China movies "reviews".
@Katie_Jo_21
@Katie_Jo_21 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they were arrested for showing the entire 🍿. Or a missive portion of it. Wth? How did this happen? Clips and a still frame after it has been released? Wild. …
@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892
@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892 2 жыл бұрын
ive said it once , ill say it again , japanese copyright laws are bullshit , its also funny to me how japan when their using american content they use americas fair use laws , but when its japanese content everyone has to play ba japans laws , hypocrisy and double standards , just look at totally not mark
@technophobian2962
@technophobian2962 2 жыл бұрын
Fair use only exists in the US. This is something a lot of people don't realise and they end up getting fucked over because of it. Other countries have fair dealing laws, but they are nowhere near as lenient as fair use. The one thing that Japan has that is much stricter than other countries is the 2 year prison sentence. Afaik, most other countries don't put people in prison for breaking copyright laws. The fines they have could be just as devastating though. My opinion is that copyright law needs to be completely abolished all around the world, or at the very least made a lot more lenient. Copyright law in the 21st century is an absolute joke.
@FroggerbobT
@FroggerbobT 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad this isn't actually true... Fair use exists in about half the countries on earth, actually.
@kiroiimimi
@kiroiimimi 2 жыл бұрын
Copyright law is supposed to protect smaller creators too and legal protection is often an incentive for artists. Of course, the sad reality is that big companies use these laws to their advantage but I don’t think abolishing copyright laws is the answer…
@JK-xf1dw
@JK-xf1dw 2 жыл бұрын
Joey skipped over it, but according to this article they have got a suspended sentence.
@The_Jzoli
@The_Jzoli 2 жыл бұрын
Europe has something similar, the "Right to quote" exception. It isn't as lenient however.
@thepopo592
@thepopo592 2 жыл бұрын
and most of the time, companies just flat out ignore it in the U.S with no consequences. that's what happened around 2018-2019 where music companies were just striking for music they didn't even own and monetizing unmonetized videos through that
@aminettay
@aminettay 2 жыл бұрын
What about the KZbin is a company? Are they not going to protect their assets through lobbying the right laws in Japan?
@ronniewhitedx
@ronniewhitedx 2 жыл бұрын
Next video title: "How I ended up in a Japanese prison cell"
@divyanshgoel128
@divyanshgoel128 2 жыл бұрын
We gotta do something about Japan. I thought it was just the Anime industry, but movies too? Horrible
@StormCrusher94
@StormCrusher94 2 жыл бұрын
The duality of Japan.
@satoshikei
@satoshikei 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this news the day they were arrested and ask KZbinrs like Yuta if they do seek permission from every company to use anime footage, but no one answered me. Only one thing you did not mention (or i was not paying attention) on this same piece of news you are showing on scream it is saying they got a suspended sentence, witch means they are not going to jail as long as they follow the terms of the probation. I believe the point was only to scare people from doing this type of videos.
@poker4501
@poker4501 2 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, they are never about movie review, they just summarize the video in 5-10 minutes, without provide an opinion themself, there's a reason the company dislike them, because the provide "FAST MOVIE" instead of a well wrten movie review. This Fast Movie culture really do make an impact in the movie industry,like just imagine u put years of work into this movie ,and then people just summarize it in 10 minute, not reviewing. In China this situation had a very different twist ,unlike Japan and Korea.the movie industry, tried to make allegations against "fast movie" creator and I forget how it turns out. But I remember the Chinese people were furious about it, thier opinion was "sometimes I don't want to use up 2 hour of my time watching a movie. Sometime I just need to know the movie enough for me to socialize with people." And yeah fair use does not exist in japan, literally ,even tho "Fast Eiga" channel only use still shot,and screenshot they still got arrested. WTF
@gabrieljurubeba538
@gabrieljurubeba538 2 жыл бұрын
it's a summary, what's the problem with it ? if anyone wants to watch the full movie, they will watch it.
@Hungry_God
@Hungry_God 2 жыл бұрын
This is why young people need to get into politics in japan. If young people were interested in voting then fair use would have existed by now.
@MeriDoug
@MeriDoug 2 жыл бұрын
When you said, "fair use," I was thinking but Japan isn't America; they have their own laws. Even so, this is crazy. Too bad about the jail time and fines.
@MsUnamusedNerd
@MsUnamusedNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Some people remember two girls one cup, some people remember one man one jar, I and a lot of other people remember the BME pain Olympics 🍆🔪
@firefy9595
@firefy9595 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the content on this channel is so diverse and broad, it could make even Chris Broad look thin :)
@eriklagergren7124
@eriklagergren7124 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Broad do be kinda wide n thicc
@伊吹空IbukiSora
@伊吹空IbukiSora 2 жыл бұрын
初めまして、たみーちゃんのところから失礼します。 正直な話、今の日本の映画やアニメ業界は、一般層のバッシングやマスコミの報道によって、表現力が制限されていますね。確か10年くらい前から、著作権法が一気に厳しくなり、最初は海外サイトで無断転載が多発していたので、その対策は正しいと思っていましたが、最近は特にひどくなって、犯罪をアニメと結びつく報道まで出てくる始末。 最近の映像業界もその規制のせいで、昔と比べると質が落ちているものも多い。今回の件も、映画作品の制作者にも相応の収入割合を分ければことは収めるので、逮捕になることでコンテンツクリエーターたちも慎重になりすぎると、やる気がなくなりどんどんやめていくのは目に見えますね… 長文、失礼しました。
@Animemus
@Animemus 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t understand how Comiket has been able to survive so long when fair use doesn’t exist in Japan. Of course there are a few cases where doujin artists get in trouble, but Comiket is still alive and well.
@theot2141
@theot2141 2 жыл бұрын
Comiket artists are entirely making their own content, technically the only thing they are reusing are the names and settings, which isnt copywritable
@Osami-du2ht
@Osami-du2ht 2 жыл бұрын
well,the creater or the copyright holder ACTUALLY can take doujinshi or fan contents down like a piece of cake if they want to,but most of the time they just let it go bc advertise reasons or others as long as it dosen't too much damage the official.
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 Жыл бұрын
@@Osami-du2ht Killing doujin industry would kill the entire anime/manga industry down the road. All artists know this because they were in the sane position once. Jp copywrite works slightly differently in that its ebtirely at the mercy of the ip holder: if they do nothing to you then its finr.
@kenouk6183
@kenouk6183 2 жыл бұрын
There used to be a go kart service in Kyoto where they dressed up the people in the Mario franchise costumes to resemble Mario kart ...not anymore!! Copyright claims are fun!
@astrowolvez
@astrowolvez Жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy because at the end of the day it’s free advertising! See people dressed up in karts you’ll think about playing the game. A movie studio is awesome and actually allows people to review them you’ll seek them out and watch their movies.
@Kindlesmith70
@Kindlesmith70 2 жыл бұрын
Using whole or majority of an IP is a grey area for legal issues. Reaction videos can tread dangerous grounds. Some companies take this to abusive levels, though.
@12fulworld69
@12fulworld69 2 жыл бұрын
Change in law can take a really long time; and it also takes a really long time to write to every rightsholder to get permission, but (at least in the eu) the permission doesn't have to be all that formal. preferably written, yes, but I do believe a produktion company with the rights could put out a written statement that allowed, for instance, the use of snippets under 30 seconds with at least 2 minutes in between each, in videos on the internet. If you get a chance to, perhaps ask for a possibility of something like that. Whilst difficult, it may be a lot simpler than trying to get fair use right away. (I study media law at a very basic uni level, and I missed my class today, so maybe I'm wrong here, but I hope not.)
@NotTsurugi
@NotTsurugi 2 жыл бұрын
Joey bout' to get arrested for using a screenshot of the article.
@solgaleooflight8703
@solgaleooflight8703 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Japan Companies are brutal. Poor totallynotmark and this guy.
@jonasw3945
@jonasw3945 2 жыл бұрын
Fair use Act only exist in the United States. You gotta know your laws in whatever country you live in (it's common sense). KZbin as a US company has the fair use thing because that alligns with the United States laws that allows KZbin to host your videos, so KZbin will always allow you to upload anything as long as it comforms to the US laws but the country you live in has the right to apply its laws above everything else if the copyright holder asked for it, especially if the copyright material is from that country . Going to Japanese court (or any other country that isn't the US) and saying "But but ma fair use" is not gonna help you much unless your country has similar fair use inspired laws (still most are not as leniant and open as the actual USA fair use but it can work in countries like Canada and the UK). If you think Japan's copyright laws are strict then you should know the whole word's copyright laws are strict lol, some countries just choose to apply their laws and others turn a blind eye. KZbin kinda gave poeple the illusion that fair use is a "universal thing" but again it is just a USA thing, some countries have also more friendly copyright laws but most of the rest of the world isn't.
@mj-ff3xv
@mj-ff3xv 2 жыл бұрын
It exists in the uk aswell lmao. You can get prison time for.... RATIO'ING
@LiinaKS
@LiinaKS 2 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to hear and learn about japans inner politics and news. Great content Joey keep it up!
@TranslatorGuy
@TranslatorGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Joey, you could have mentioned that they were not reviews. They were summaries of movies with scenes from the movie and a narrator summarizing the whole story over it. Thus, even if Japan had the same fair use laws as America, they would have been sued to hell and back regardless. Also, they had uploaded like 2k+ monetized videos from 55 accounts and were making huge bank off content that was definitely not fair use. You must have known all this since you're half-Japanese and can read all the news articles about the case. But I guess a video title implying that a Japanese youtuber gets arrested just for making movie reviews gets more views, huh?
@JK-xf1dw
@JK-xf1dw 2 жыл бұрын
Joey is causing quite a bit of misunderstanding in this video. On top of that, Joey skipped over the fact that they got probation, which is pretty vicious.
@PhantomDogman
@PhantomDogman 2 жыл бұрын
I guess Police needs to do in Japan when there isn't crime until crime is out of charts.
@Kawaiisikkusu
@Kawaiisikkusu 2 жыл бұрын
Arrest the most f*ck up crime or arrest the most innocent crime, there's no in between.
@abhishekdasgupta9239
@abhishekdasgupta9239 2 жыл бұрын
On one hand, regular motivated(one backed with a actual reason) homicide isn't really high in Japan, but my god Japan has witnessed fucking massive heists and massacres, like the recent attack in the subway on Halloween. Also.......Yakuza........yeah. It's crazy to think that in Japan, either nothing will happen, or a huge massacre would ensue alongside the shady business that happens in the back alleys of Kabukicho and Osaka.
@DMSBrian24
@DMSBrian24 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how Japan, the country that used to not give a shit about western copyright laws for years and in some degree still doesn't, is the most aggressive when it comes to enforcing their own copyright laws nowadays
@kasrkin100
@kasrkin100 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking sense of the irony right
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