Reviewing EVERY Spider-Man Movie | Tobey Maguire | SPIDEY-CEMBER

Reviewing EVERY Spider-Man movie has been something I've wanted to do for years. I haven't seen anything of them since they came out in theatres and in the case of this Tobey Maguire Trilogy... I haven't seen some of them in as much as 20 years.
Join me this Spidey-cember as I Totally Not Mark embark on a nostalgic trip down memory lane. Reviewing and reconnecting with the films that sculpted my childhood. Starting this week with the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy from 2002, 2004 and 2007. Will these films hold up? Will they surprise me? Let's see.
GFUEL!!!!! - GET 30% OFF with promo code "TNM" at gfuel.ly/2Qb5jke
EDITOR-SAN'S MUSIC (Spiderman 1 & 2)
-Eight Years in the Making (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Spiderman’s Theme (By Savaria Symphony Orchestra)
-Restoring Order (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Shocking Turn of Events (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Spiderman’s Theme (Marvel VS Capcom 3)
-New York, New York (ZZang Karaoke)
-Spider-Man (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Webbed in the Shadows (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-City on Alert (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-The Breakthrough (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-International Support (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Responsibility (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Chasing Down The Devil (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Behind the Mask (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-Worlds Colliding (Marvel’s Spiderman)
-End Credits (Spiderman PS2)
AJAY'S MUSIC (Spiderman 3)
Music is taken from Marvel's Spider-Man and the Spider-Man PS2 game.
---------------------------
MY PATREON: / totallynotmark
MY TWITTER: / totallynotmark
Video edited by Editor-San and Anime Ajay - / animeajay

[@TotallyNotMark]

This video took the combined effort of 3 people to finish in a week. Please for the love of JK Simmons, like, comment and share this video if you enjoy it :)

[@bigstarwarsfan5714]

W vid

[@TDay-uk6dq]

woooooooooo love you man

[@logandavis3595]

Do you think you would review any DC Shows or Movies like Superman TAS or Justice League

[@arnolexharde1966]

Love youre content man keep on doing as you do and i also Would like to see you do a manga review on : -Solo leveling -vagabond -gangsta -blade of the imortal -noragami

[@blueboston318]

Aaaaand this video like others will get removed. Just watch and see.

[@TheoJay615]

I always say: As a kid, I related to Spider-Man's heroic spirit. As an adult, I relate to Peter Parker's crippling debt.

[@VarjoPira]

As an adult, I can relate to "RENT...!!"

[@drakevoidwalker]

@@VarjoPira "WHERE'S MY MONEY?!?!" Tom Holland: "here's 5 mil I borrowed from Step-Daddy Stark. Keep the change"

[@zionharris9432]

I relate to his crippling guilt and inability to remember everything that needs to be done

[@thomasjohnson1885]

@@drakevoidwalker That’s legitimately wrong but go off

[@passarovoador6662]

@@drakevoidwalker In Spider-Man from 2002 a rich guy tries to be his father And he is the main villain In Spider-Man Homecoming a rich guy tries to be his father THAT GUY IS THE FACE OF THE UNIVERSE AND EVERY VILLAIN IS ACTUALLY THAT GUY'S VILLAIN

[@SeeReax]

Mark. This video is amazing so far, don’t get me wrong. But good lord we need to talk about that Hollywood level G-Fuel ad 😂 (in the best way)

[@trenco13]

IMPRESSIVE YIUR BETTER THAN I EXPECTED

[@aseriesofquestionalablelif8287]

surprised to see you here lol

[@UnoriginallyChrisLPs]

Agreed, it looked straight from of a TV ad. Brilliantly done

[@Guac_Amole]

Transition was smoother than my dad's transition out of my life

[@davinky7194]

Facts

[@jakesims3420]

I’m glad you’re giving Rosemary Harris the love she deserves, her performance is incredible

[@xero9ravity150]

her speech made me tear up ;-;

[@Nightman221k]

I think she was perfection as Aunt May. Sally Field was also fantastic. Rosemary Harris played the kind nurturing aunt so well. It made me feel every emotional moment between her and Peter perfectly by how good the familial chemistry was.

[@ANDCFC95]

She’s a treasure

[@SemekiIzuio]

So true, honestly would want and love a relative like that.

[@JaxBlade]

Bully Maguire getting the Praise lmao love to see it

[@zionharris9432]

We all do mr muscles😎🤟🏾

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

*(Starts dancing)*

[@BullyGarfield.]

i missed the part where that’s my problem

[@DragonBallNOW]

Spiderman 3 is good. Without it we'd have no Bully Maguire.

[@vmdenis3350]

Jax I am seeing your comments in every video, buffduds and now TNM, love your work keep it up

[@LilAnonomus]

I think the "emotionless" mask works better than if his emotions were clearly visible. When he's wearing the suit, we're seeing him as the civilians would, as Spiderman, the cool, friendly and strong protector of New York City. Seeing his emotions clearly behind the mask would show people how geeky, uncertain and scared he is all the time. Which makes it more powerful in the moments where you see him fighting without a mask. I pretty much agree with everything else you said and love your observations that make me respect the trilogy more than I already did.

[@chriss.249]

The funny thing too is that in the zombie comics, Peter states his quips are to calm civilians down and hide the fact that hes afraid.

[@Skitz0frenix]

Not only that, but I can see his emotions through the body language

[@sp8cescience433]

I agree. Plus that picture he showed where you could see his mouth through the mask just looked really creepy to me for some reason.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooooo check out my sam raimi trilogy review brah

[@danielz-v4083]

Dumbest take on it I’ve ever seen

[@wheeledion]

The thing about the masks is, Spiderman canonically wears them to not only hide his identity but also make it so that the villains he face don't read into his emotions of weather he's scared or triumphant. So even though the Tobey or the Garfield suits are expressionless, it's almost like it's meant to be that way... unfortunately the audience suffers from this chase of authenticity.

[@xero9ravity150]

this i remember stan lee saying this i think or was it the comics? i forgot but yeah i never minded the emotionless mask because of this reason :)

[@Grandmaster_Dragonborn]

I'd rather the expressionless of Tobey and Andrew's suits to the CGI tweaks of Tom's suits. Those just look weird.

[@zandi1603]

@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn yeah it's kind of stupid, they film him and make a full spiderman suit for him to wear but just switch to full CGI in the end like what 💀

[@Stryker98]

People forget too even with expressionless masks on you can still "sense" emotion through body language. A good example of this is Vader in the Star Wars OT trilogy, especially in Return of the Jedi where we can sense conflict, anger and power all through body language and Maguire's Spiderman is no exception.

[@MightyGladWrap]

I think his whole mask rant was a bit silly to say the least. Every Spider-man mask is emotionless (aside from the eyes) in the comics as well. It has nothing to do with the firm mask or "helmet" worn in the movies. The only way to achieve what Mark wants is by completely redesigning Spidey's mask so that it shows more of his face.

[@victorpurificacao2855]

I remember when Sam Raimi apologized to the public for Spider-Man 3...That always rubbed me the wrong way, he still tried to make the best movie he could, even with the studio interference, love or hate it, one can't deny how much love went into making these films. It shouldn't be Raimi who's apologizing here.

[@jerrywil7012]

And also, let’s be honest… if angry fanboys didn’t complain so much about the film because of Venom, I’m sure he wouldn’t resent the film as much…

[@johnwise9811]

Well said

[@CrowTRobot]

It wasn't his fault at all. Sony and Avi kept forcing last minute changes until Raimi eventually felt like this movie wasn't his anymore. I understand why he hates it but it makes me sad.

[@CrowTRobot]

@@jerrywil7012 not at all. He resented it not just because of Venom, but for all the edits and changes that the studio forced on him. So little of the movie we see was actually part of his vision. One of the only scenes that was part of Raimi's design is also the best scene- the creation of Sandman.

[@akhonankosi4704]

It surprised me that Avi Arad still works at Sony they really should have him removed from his position at sony

[@TotallyNotMark]

Sorry about the spidey clips from the first two films playing only in one ear. The third film ironically has no issues. So hence forth I shall pretend that this was an artistic choice to balance my tone across all 3 films.

[@PodMan26]

Oh! So that's why I couldn't hear any of the Spider-Man 1 clips! My right speaker is broken. 😂

[@qhillis]

I was listening at work with only 1 ear and was super confused why random parts of the review would just go silent lmao

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Oh. I thought my headphones were acting up lol

[@cin2110]

Happy little accidents

[@mushfiqurrahman2515]

i thought my earphone got busted

[@droopymeerkat6114]

I love how raimi was not afraid to show the heros suit being torn and battered from a fight and how it would make the viewer feel like he was really giving his all for a fight

[@thiagoloiola279]

I haven´t seen anyone mentioning this, so just in case someone doesn´t knows: Raimi said the reason Bruce Campbell seems to be bouncing from job to job between the movies is that Raimi was planning on using him as Mysterio on the fourth movie that Sony cancelled. Those little interactions with peter would serve as a background for how they met and how mysterio operates

[@Succadeez]

Reptile for spiderman 5?

[@famousthaneus9810]

Making those appearances connected in a way that would’ve influenced their dynamic isn’t really that good of an idea. Having him as a gag is fun, sure, and making Campbell have been Quentin Beck the entire time is fun, but making those interactions canonical to their future interactions as hero & villain is nonsensical.

[@defro125]

@@Succadeez Raimi apparently was begging to use Lizard since 1, but Sony felt that the villain wasn't popular enough to let Raimi use him.

[@NinjaChris77]

Things like this and the plans he had for Lizard is why i was mad at The Amazing Spiderman when it first came out, i was so mad that they rebooted, i was not able to enjoy the movie, just knowing what it could've been instead! I wasn't even watching 2 because of this and i haven't to this date. I even wanna go this far and say that they screwed up big times by rebooting, the Raimi Spidermans were the most popular super hero movies, they made the most money back then and they still very popular to this date! So why throw all that away?? The higher ups at Sony really fucked up imo!

[@poeticdavide]

@@NinjaChris77 I do agree, however "Far From Home" gives us all a reason to see Tobey once again back in action, even though it'll be for the last time. 🥺❤️

[@franciscob.maciel8745]

I lost my father yesterday, after 11 years fighting a cancer. The part about the hero in all of us, made me think about how he was a hero to me just because the fight, which he fought with a smile in his face. And in a full circle, my first gift to him was a piece of paper saying "dad, you are my hero". Thanks Mark from the bottom of my heart.

[@josephbriggs2257]

I’m really sorry to hear about your father. He sounds like a great man to look up to.

[@franciscob.maciel8745]

@@josephbriggs2257 Thanks man, he was outstanding. A lot of his students call him "father", and he always put the family first. I hope that I can become half of the men he was.

[@josephbriggs2257]

@@franciscob.maciel8745 I wish you the best of luck in that. I think that’s the best way you can right by him, personally speaking, following his example and growing as best you can.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooooo check out my sam raimi trilogy review brah

[@josephbriggs2257]

@@Mr_Cinematic Uh… I get the need to self-advertise, but maybe not in _this_ comment chain dude?

[@mider-spanman5577]

I heavily agree that Rosemary Harris as Aunt May is single-handedly one of the most gripping performances in this series. I wonder how she would have reacted to finding out Peter is Spider-Man!

[@markafirefan2349]

You can tell, she knew in the second film

[@james2155]

There’s a hero in all of us

[@everythingisawesome2903]

"He knows a hero when he sees one. Too few characters out there, flying around like that, saving old girls like me. And Lord knows, kids like Henry need a hero. Courageous, self-sacrificing people. Setting examples for all of us. Everybody loves a hero. People line up for them, cheer them, scream their names. And years later, they'll tell how they stood in the rain for hours just to get a glimpse of the one who taught them how to hold on a second longer. I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams." They didn't had to spoonfeed us. This subtle speech to Peter alone tell you she 100 percent knew he is Spiderman.

[@Coolgamer54321]

@@everythingisawesome2903 im glad the "reveal" was done this way, its not in. your face dialogue that takes away from the heartfelt moment in the scene, but when Peter is bombarded with being Spiderman 24/7, being with his aunt would be his way of disconnecting and receive pure love

[@dobi287]

You saw how she would react... in spider-man 2

[@calebokeefe376]

Spider-Man pulling his punches is addressed in the comics. He should be able to knock many of these guys out in one hit, but it's a fine line between knocking them out and accidentally killing them. There's a scene where someone gets Peter's powers and goes to hit someone without realizing the sheer strength Spider-Man has and takes their jaw off their face entirely.

[@Shamilscorner]

I think it was when doc oc switch bodies with him and becomes superior Spider-Man he realizes that every time they fought he pulled his punches one of my favorite moments in Spider-Man comics

[@Desmond_Video_Discussions]

yeah, the superior spiderman comic run. man doc oc as spiderman was actually amazing

[@cale0176]

Not just "someone", it was Doc Oc realizing that Peter could have killed him YEARS ago but has always held back.

[@VarjoPira]

That's Ock in Peter's body, and it's not just SOMEONE whose jaw he punches off. It's SCORPION's jaw - a fellow superhuman with a powerset comparable to that of Spider-Man's. That's massively impressive for a feat.

[@Mufflin]

@@cale0176 I'm pretty sure they said someone because they didn't want to spoil it.

[@B_Draws]

This man managed to change my perception and thoughts on Spider-Man 3. In terms of themes and examining "With great power, there must also come great responsibility," the Rami films are in fact a perfect trilogy. It's bittersweet, but I'm kind of glad we got three great character analysis from Rami. Godspeed indeed Spider-Man.

[@austinbryan6759]

That's the quote from No Way Home. The Sam Raimi one is the most succinct: With great power comes great responsibility.

[@B_Draws]

@Austin Bryan Yeah, it is. But, the way they word it in NWH is the original wording from the comics. It's just syntax, but I feel it hits harder in the comic because of that. As in, great power can not be utilized to its fullest potential without the responsibility that comes with it. The Rami films thoroughly explore the concept beautifully.

[@Monakage]

Mark you forgot to mention that one of the lessons that Spider-Man 3 teaches us is to just throw some dirt in someone's eyes if they mess with you too much

[@franck4727]

Bully maguire

[@four-en-tee]

Gonna cry?

[@nehemiahjacinto8439]

And if they're mad about it. tell them to get religion - Spiderman 3 lesson

[@Infinityluiss]

Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man Trilogy has mean so much to me as a child and more as an adult. The consequences of all his actions leads him to such a struggled and harsh life but in time learns why it’s necessary to go through and that life will get better. This character is incredibly relatable and everyone else is treated with care and respect. No live action Spider-Man will live up to this type of passion project.

[@victorcapote7376]

I love these movies as well, but I believe Andrew is my favorite and his movies have lots of flaws, but that’s not Mark Webb’s or the actors’ fault and even if the movies are filled with a lot of crap in some parts, it still has many human parts and great moments throughout the films.

[@semkok7759]

Big facts story will be hard to match for any new movie and will probably never match the passion

[@jennideangelis]

i always loved mary jane’s character … i feel she’s overlooked a lot bc of her dating choices but i genuinely feel like she’s the closest to a teenage girl with trauma and fear .. it was something about her that made me feel attached to her growing up and felt like i finally saw a movie character i could relate to .. i wish she was “praised” more rather than bashed on

[@LostSoulSilver]

Abused people will often lash onto anything and everything looking for validation. It's sad but MJ shows that they can make the right choice in the end

[@aaronchaska]

I feel the mask is intended, in universe even, to hide Peter's emotions as Spider Man quite intentionally. To hide his fear, both from his opponents and the citizens, and to always show the face of Spider Man looking boldly forward. It also does make the moments where the mask comes off that much more potent.

[@ZainIsInPain]

In the comics Peter said that the reason he makes quips is to make the civilians feel calm and to hide that he is scared to not ensue panic in others.

[@landoakechi9406]

@@ZainIsInPain it also makes it easier for the Daily Bugle to dehumanize him. JJJ wouldn't be able to get away it if people could easily see he is as emotional as the rest of us

[@xnortheast1106]

Eh

[@xnortheast1106]

@@landoakechi9406 eh

[@emangtvee]

I agree with the last part, but it still makes the performance of Spider-Man with the helmet very emotionally stilted

[@SirThomas_II]

My favorite thing about the ending with Otto is the line "brilliant but lazy". Otto looked at Peter when they first met as a young man with amazing potential and wasting it by not using the intelligence that he has. After everything in the movie leading up to that point, the moment Peter takes his mask off, he almost immediately eats all of his words from their initial interaction. The boy he thought was wasting his potential was living up to it and using his gift for the good of mankind for years even if it meant sacrificing his personal life to do so

[@jase276]

Might be reaching with that. "Brilliant but lazy" was the quote his friend, Peter's professor, used to describe Pete to him. So, when Peter reveals his identity to him, Otto regains himself from insanity and recognizes Pete by remembering that quote and realizing that Peter wasn't lazy, he was always busy because he's Spider-Man.

[@SirThomas_II]

@@jase276 maybe but it's essentially the same thing, the realization is what brings him back. Think about their conversations up to that point, it's not like Otto didn't believe the description that Connors gave else he wouldn't have tried to preach to Peter about using his gift. It isn't until the end that he realizes

[@t.l3846]

It's a bit of foreshadowing as well. Because he himself is brilliant and was lazy with his calculations when peter said they were wrong. Hence the rest of the film they are mirroring each other. I still have a hard time between this and into the spiderverse as my favourite entry

[@zegsi364]

Uh no... Otto didnt care about Spidey or even Peter that much. He was doing Harry a favor. Remember, the reason Otto retried his experiment was cuz he had nothing else to live for. He was su1c1dal

[@mafiaseargent]

When I think of Aunt May I always picture Rosemary instantly. That's not to say that the other ones don't do just fine in their respective universes but she is by far the most Aunt May of them all. The others don't really factor into the stories as much either.

[@Deathmare235]

It’s cause of how old and respectable she is

[@maggie_knolastname]

Rosemary was the BEST Aunt May.

[@Nightman221k]

Rosemary is the best by far but the Sally Field Aunt May is also a great performance. Rosemary set a very high bar but I think that Sally Field also did a good job especially in ASM2.

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

Ikr

[@koopaklaw4605]

This. Aunt may is not supposed to be a MILF lol

[@VarjoPira]

The Raimi Trilogy ages like the finest wine. It has something for EVERYONE. Small EDIT: regarding Spider-Man not being able to knock Octavius out. First off, as many have stated, he pulls his punches because he can kill another superhuman with bare fists alone, and with ease. 2nd, I'm rather certain the arms, being an advanced AI, are able to control Octavius' pain reception and stimuli post-accident. And 3rd, they do provide him with a flexible yet firm way to efficiently roll with Peter's punches, lessening the already restrained effect. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy the movie.

[@runbaa9285]

I think one of the main reasons Tobey's Spider-Man being a naturally good natured person as opposed to the comic counterpart works is that this is a movie. You have to be efficient with your characters to not bloat the runtime. While in the comics, we can get Peter's slow progression from a vengeful bully victim to a selfless person over the course of dozens of comic issues. Not a timeframe the movies could afford. Basically short-term narrative vs long-term narrative.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

He was kinda vengeful in the movie too. He enjoyed beating up Flash Thompson and became arrogant. Not to mention he didn't help the booker at the wrestling show out of spite. And all of that ego in Spider-Man 3.

[@runbaa9285]

@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 yeah, but Tobey's Peter acted that way towards people who were assholes to him in the first place. Eye for an eye kind of thing. Comic Peter had a huge ego for quite a run, even butting heads with the Avengers because of his inflated ego. His power got to his head, and it was starting to affect people who weren't even assholes to him. It sounds similar on paper, but when compared side by side, Tobey's Peter and comic Peter are wholly different characters. And again, that's not a bad thing. The movies can't really depict a slow character progression because they're movies with very limited runtimes, unlike comics.

[@mikemorro140]

@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 The bookie thing is straight out of the comics though

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

@@mikemorro140 That was my point.

[@mikemorro140]

@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 my bad

[@mikeysrightleg1880]

That "Don't tell Harry." line that Norman said before he died in SM1 and Peter keeping that dying wish all the way to SM 2 really shows how much RESPECT Peter had for the MAN of Norman and not the Goblin.... Looking like the bad guy in front of his BESTFRIEND when he eventually finds out.... Mad respect

[@dookieburrito9196]

I fully support mark switching to covering marvel if the toei situation doesn’t clear up

[@louiscocksman7114]

That’s actually a really good idea

[@reyjr4]

Mark said on Twitter that Sony actually claimed this video the first couple days and he had to demonize it. Reality is cruel.

[@tricko8000]

He's actually not making money from this video, since it got demonetized almost instantly lol He should just review non-Toei related manga, like he's been doing with Berserk

[@four-en-tee]

@@tricko8000 Does this mean he'll finally read Fullmetal Alchemist?

[@glynnpowell7864]

Switching to stealing one thing to the next 😂🤣

[@scooottbruh7849]

Bully Maguire is a masterpiece. The magnum opus of sony.

[@TyandOnGoing]

No lies were told, he will stand the test of time.

[@CrowTRobot]

Spidey 3 may be regarded the worst Spider-man movie but it's also the most entertaining and easily the most hilarious. I hope Sam Raimi hates it less than he used to.

[@bigstarwarsfan5714]

@@CrowTRobot facts

[@bigstarwarsfan5714]

He’s and funny but overrated meme

[@JoshQwerty]

So Nostalgic 😭

[@LimpForASimp_]

Mark, in December of 2020 I lost my mom to covid. As a kid in his beginning 20's it changed me in a way I had never even thought of. It endowed me with a sense of responsibility and a call to action that I often relate the original spiderman movie to. On the 3rd, it had officially been a year since I lost the lost important person in my life, but it felt like it's only been a few days. I barely remember anything that has happened this year, in fact. Loss is a very hard thing to deal with, and I pray you never have to grieve alone. Thank you for your hard work, and the obvious and amazing passion you put into your videos.

[@jacksonpullen7873]

im so sorry

[@dylana.9057]

Don't give up . Go live your life and go become what you are meant to become out there. Do not let grief paralyze you , do not let pain stop you. Go live life , for your mom who birthed you into this world. Do it for her and forgive yourself 🙏

[@rk800android]

I'm extremely sorry for your loss man

[@idk-ku1jh]

If I’m being honest Spider-Man 3 isn’t a masterpiece but it gets way more hate than it deserves but I’m glad people are finally seeing how good it is (mostly because of memes)

[@tragossoboy6700]

I never knew ppl hated the third movie I always liked it, tho I haven't rly seen those movies in recent times tbf

[@hitkid2456]

@@tragossoboy6700 They mostly felt it tried to be too much with two villains, and that the movie suffered for it. I think they were mostly displeased with Sandman.

[@CMHobbies]

@@hitkid2456 I’ve never heard any criticism of sandman-only Venom and Harry.

[@SampeText]

2007 niggas wasnt ready for that masterpiece

[@ImGoat1995]

For me Spider-Man 3 is somehow an equally good movie as it is bad. You can think of almost any scene in that movie and be like that was a great scene and yet. Somehow the entire movie feels disconnected from itself to me. The scenes with Venom feel completely different to the ones with Sandman as do the ones with Harry/New Goblin. It feels like 3 different movies in one.

[@frigglediggle2]

Dont care what any one says or thinks, the Raimi trilogy will always have a special place in my heart

[@saltrush3448]

@Onion Dark Knight what is he wrong about lol?????????

[@doomguydemonkiller]

The Raimi Trilogy is the definitive Spider-Man experience.

[@lololo]

@Onion Dark Knight what are u even talking about? have you even watched Spider-Man 2 (2004)?

[@lololo]

@Onion Dark Knight you watched every single comic? that's impressive

[@AdequateProximityPH]

@Onion Dark Knight someone enjoying a piece of media in a way you don't makes them objectively wrong? do you also walk into restaurants you don't eat at and say that the people eating there are objectively wrong for enjoying their meal

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

I agree with so much of this analysis, but I think I come from a different perspective when it comes to the suit that Tobey dons in this trilogy. I grew up on Power Rangers, mainly the original Saban era that most fans generally think is the best stretch of the series, and those helmets are completely hard, there's no way to see the facial expressions of the characters. However, those characters tended to use a lot more physical movement to show their movement (not the ridiculous head-bobbing you'd see in MMPR Seasons 1-3) sort of like what you'd see from Andrew Garfield's iteration of the character. So I don't think the problem stems from the mask not allowing for emotion to resonate through, but the lack of physical movement to help sell certain emotions.

[@johnathonjackson7343]

Yeah I agree besides having a mask that's so light that you can see someone's face under it sounds good on paper but in doing it ends up with them looking like a bank robber wearing panty hose to cover their face.

[@JyanDagdagan]

yup, i agree w/ this.. its not the maske but the lack of movement. Andrew's spider-man nailed that part cause his body was sooo expressive that his emotions transcends w/o the need of facial expressions... Tobey's biggest asset as an actor is his expressive eyes, and having them covered w/ the mask, you could feel the lack of emotion. that's why i love it everytime his mask is torn during fights hehe.

[@SemekiIzuio]

Was thinking about this too. Not the power rangers but when someone is using a mask, it is meant to hide the face it is meant to hide emotions it is meant to hide identity. What can bring a charcter like this to life are their actions and gestures movements their every body position posture etc and that yes includes head tilts.

[@kryppo4245]

35:00 Peter HAS to hold back in these fights because of how strong he truly is. in the superior Spider-Man run (for example) when doc ock took over his body he didnt know how strong he truly was and when he punched the scorpion with no restraints he ripped off his jaw by accident

[@Tempo1337]

Dude, you're right. Ock's horrified realization at just how easy Peter had actually been on his rogues when he could have almost effortlessly killed them all is a magnificent scene.

[@jonathandelgado3755]

Mark mentions that he’s aware Peter could(and is) be holding back. He’s just pointing out that it’s a bit of a stretch that a even single punch from a guy who can stop speeding rains, even if really restrained, wouldn’t be able to just do a 1 hit KO.

[@dragonheart1236]

@@jonathandelgado3755 because 1 hit KOs can very often go hand in hand with fatal brain damage

[@jonathandelgado3755]

@@dragonheart1236 That is also true. But then again KOs in general are tied to serious brain damage right? Well whatever it’s comic book logic it’s kinda picky.

[@dragonheart1236]

@@jonathandelgado3755 that is my point exactly. That's why spiderman goes with the safer option, pulling his punches and tiring his opponent out.

[@nekit8742]

7:48 Well, I look at this from the other side: Peter treats Spider-Man as a completely different man, he is the direct opposite to Peter, the face shell helps emphasize this feeling of "two different men" Spider-Man being always(no face movement at all) Confident, Extroverted, as Goblin said "Spider-Man is invincible, but Peter Parker..."; Peter Parker vice-versa is introverted, questioning his actions, vulnerable and has the same problems every normal human does. At the end of the movie, during the final fight, half of Peter's face is still Spider-Man, but the other half is Peter Parker, which I think resembles that this fight is not only Spider-Man's but also Peter Parker's personally

[@VarjoPira]

Plus, the vague nature of the mask helps the viewer put THEMSELVES in Spider-Man's shoes. You don't have to see behind the mask to know EXACTLY how he's feeling - because you're feeling it, too. As Stan Lee himself said, this is at the core of the character. Raimi understood this.

[@nekit8742]

@@VarjoPira Right!

[@TyandOnGoing]

Very good take as even though peter treats spiderman as a complete separate part of his life, a lot of the best things in spiderman media like spiderverse, spiderman 2, spectacular spiderman, spiderman ps4 they all have peter and spiderman struggles colliding.

[@TyandOnGoing]

@@VarjoPira I always thought spiderverse was the first to do this but you are actually right.

[@shingledspire3172]

VERY well said.

[@wesker1079]

There was an innocence / purity to Tobeys Spiderman. He was a geek with a heart of gold I'd love to see him back in the role.

[@calebdavis2217]

On December 19th, 2019, I lost my mother to congestive heart failure. That hit me harder than anything else. I've been in numerous car wrecks, suffered many heart breaks, and have lost loved ones before. I only just in the last few months started to get to a point where I can talk about things. It's made me very sensitive to hearing about someone, whether it be a person I know irl or a person on the internet, losing a loved one. I'm sorry for your loss, Mark. I bet she'd be very proud of you.

[@themexican8720]

I’m sorry for your loss. I hope you are doing well these days.

[@calebdavis2217]

@@themexican8720 Thank you. I'm taking it one day at a time. I've dived into movies, music, television and playing music to help with things. I miss her every day but I know she'd be proud of me and the steps I'm taking every day to be the best person I can be.

[@subhuman6903]

Keep it up king ❤️

[@themexican8720]

@Udit Mathur No one just "gets over loss," it sticks with you for the rest of your life. Not to be so forward, but maybe work on your bedside manner, just a thought.

[@aquelgamermexicano]

What makes me intrigued about Raimi's Green Goblin more than the rest of the villains, is that through the whole trilogy, he's the only one that isn't actually wrong. Doc Ock was flawed mainly on his plans since the experiment failed, Venom's personality was leading Peter to lose everything he had and even then some without actually getting anything in return beyond self-confidence, and Sandman was doing poor choices with good intentions. But Norman was right to a certain extend, just not the exact way he predicted. You see those close to Peter looking down on him as the story keeps going, you see him losing his life for the sake of others, with little to no return, which is what makes his decission in SM2 much more understandable, and you even see Mary Jane turning her back on him after seeing that being with Peter would be too much. Had Peter and Norman actually gone along, Peter would be respected and appreciated more, only based on who he is, and MAYBE he would have managed to be a hero, but one that would also be selfish since he'd have Norman's influence. But Peter makes a HEROIC CHOICE. Not "The Right Choice", but one that defines him as a hero with a moral code, rather than just someone with power and responsability.

[@laary7589]

Just want to point out when you mentioned Peter's the villain the the third film It made ne realize that Eddie Brock venom at the end is a mirror image of if Peter kept the suit

[@Dude-mm5sf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-8qYJsnayroM0 Spiderman swinging / take a look / miles morales

[@Deathmare235]

Not if he kept the suit but if he was depressed

[@FruityGroovy]

While that's kind of true, the thing that makes Venom in the comics a great character for people is that he isn't just "Spider-Man's dark side". If anything, the most defining thing of Eddie in recent years was how much worse his life is compared to Peter's, yet he's never alone. The Venom symbiote is there with him not for revenge anymore, but genuinely because they love each other. It's why I do believe that the Venom movies, despite the faults they have, are very good representations of the characters. Eddie Brock in the Rami movies never really gets further than "competitive douche that would do anything to win," and he doesn't really even show any hints of being a desperate man who is on his last line of support before having his life ruined until the scene where Peter reveals he's a fraud.

[@SteelSpurs]

The train fight has yet to be topped. The choreography, the directing, everything about it is perfection. Nothing in any modern superhero film has topped it.

[@mikeexits]

Let's not forget the fact that Ock flung Pete at the structure, he threaded the needle, then was somehow behind Ock and managed to maintain enough momentum to tackle him. I'm surprised Mark didn't mention this. Such a funny goof but it just goes to show how well-crafted these films are because I never even noticed until like 15 years later when someone mentioned it in a video essay.

[@kingzingo1784]

I agree. I wish we lived in a universe where there was 10+ movies for the sam raimi trilogy. It's sad knowing it's over and I'll never get to experience that feeling I got from those spiderman movies.

[@jase276]

@@mikeexits Doesn't seem that unimaginable. What with changing his center of gravity and such. Momentum and all that

[@mikeexits]

@@jase276 Ok, I'll break it down so you can see why I find it baffling: Ock is holding Spidey, throws him in the direction the train is moving, he slips through the cracks with the same momentum, which should put him well ahead of Ock and their previous position on the train, but then Ock turns around and Spidey is flying at him from behind. Unless Spidey actually stopped for a second or so, or can teleport or skip time without moving, or something, it makes no sense, haha.

[@jofwg]

its a close second for me but imo the fight scenes in spiderverse have beat it

[@ReelPodcasts]

It actually blows my mind when you said that Peter and Norman are both main characters in the first movie. And in one second the screenwriter in me broke the movie down quickly and realized that it's true.

[@Dude-mm5sf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-8qYJsnayroM0 Spiderman swinging / take a look / miles morales

[@GameJam230]

I like the new perspective on the third movie, since rather than talking about what it was on the surface level, it was about what the movie tried to be on a deeper one.

[@sanders1534]

On the ''Knocking out Otto with a single hit'' part, there's a part in the comics where I believe it's Otto who switches bodies with Peter and becomes spider-man, Otto gets into a fight with the Scorpion while he's in Peter's body and punches Scorpion's jaw clean off because he doesn't know to hold back. That's how it's always been in the comics to my knowledge, Peter holds back enough to not break anything, but has tremendous power, even so yes he could knock out Otto in one hit but where's the fun in ending the fight in one punch in a movie unless it's a one-punch man movie.

[@VarjoPira]

Same reason Goblin is able to easily catch his punch in the 1st movie: he has no idea Goblin is a fellow "meta".

[@four-en-tee]

My guess is that he doesnt want to accidentally kill Otto. So he tries to feel him out at first by starting off incredibly light and gradually amping it up from there. I imagine the same rule applies with characters like Superman, who has to be incredibly conscious of his own abilities when fighting crime (COUGH, ZACH SNYDER, COUGH COUGH) sorry, i don't know what came over me. Memes aside, Man of Steel is an alright film. I just don't like Batman V Superman, that should've been a two-part film or some shit if it was going to be that long. It would've provided a lot more room to breathe. Granted, its Zach Snyder. "Room to breathe" probably just means "slow motion" to him.

[@OfficialJHoly]

@@four-en-tee i was always thinking it was cuz the arms out tentacles gives doc a power boost so he’s not a regular human no more

[@jase276]

People seem to forget the opening exposition in the first film during that field trip that goes over the abilities of the spider that bite Peter. One of the abilities is that the spider can easily carry over 10x its own weight/mass. So, obviously Spider-Man can absolutely destroy a dude. And Doc Oc was just a regular guy with multiple robot arms, unlike, for example, Green Gobiin who is actually superhuman too.

[@dougkenworthy5079]

He could basically kill people with the flick of the wrist and so much of what he does is designed to limit the damage he could do. It's why I don't like Garfields spiderman. He intentionally hurt an already immobilised bad guy. I know it was just a nut shot, but that and the basketball scene and just things Peter would never have done. Great power and responsibility ffs. He cares about doing the right thing to a fault, and I never really got that feeling with those two films like I did with Tobey and Toms films.

[@eric.waffles]

I honestly theorize that the reason Spider-Man 3 aged as well as it did was because we got much worse super hero films since then and those successors don't have a fraction of the heart that it had despite it's flaws.

[@mikedaikaijufan3976]

Can we talk about the fact that, in the first Spider-Man, J Jonah Jameson TOTALLY figures out Peter's identity from looking at the pictures he's offered when they first meet? It's in his eyes. He's completely figured it out in his head, and yet he says nothing, because the pictures were perfect for him to capitalize on. These movies are so brilliant with these kinds of subtle details. Had to rewatch them again after your reviews. :P

[@windsonic5]

I think the mask being a limiting factor for conveying emotion is usually used to the writers' advantage in the climax of Spider-Man stories. There's a reason why it's so common for them to remove or tear Peter's mask in the most important battles of a lot of Spider-Man media, after all, the most compelling aspect of the hero is the struggle of the man behind the mask. We get used to see Spider-Man show emotion the best way he can through the mask, but when that is removed, the impact is much greater, and even more so if the person he's fighting is either someone Peter is attached to or someone he hates. The mask is a limiting factor, but in a certain way, it can also be used as an advantage.

[@ia3106]

Mark, you had me teary eyed throughout this video especially when you kept highlight aunt may - I definitely relate. But man… at 32:00 you had me in genuine tears. Really sorry to hear about your family struggles. Thanks for still making all the amazing content.

[@mikechartofilis]

I disagree with the whole mask thing. A mask can't capture the feeling you were talking about without the eyes moving/ being animated. Even the artist you mentioned, while he does show the mouth, nose etc, the only reason those paintings show raw emotion is because of the eyes which are drawn in a way that can't be captured by a mask that is not animated. e.g. Tom Holland's. After all that is how masks are supposed to work, they cover your face, you are not supposed to be expressive through one, the reason the comics can do it is because you can alter the facial features such as the eyes .

[@TheKhal22]

I agree I think the mask argument was a pretty dumb point most superheroes who cover their faces unless the mask is super thin tend to not display emotion from the face, we’re supposed to gather emotion from the way they speak and the way they move pretty simple to understand imo

[@JyanDagdagan]

@@TheKhal22 that's where Andrew's spiderman comes along i guess.. he was expressive under that mask because of his physical movements. like during that final fight w/ electro is one great example.

[@guileniam]

​@@JyanDagdaganI disagree he sucked until no way home

[@guillermolopez2673]

Fun fact: in the comics Peter Parker has stated that he wears a mask precisely for hiding his emotions, to not show fear to his enemies. So I guess in that regard, these films got it right EDIT: I messed up, what he uses to hide his fear is not the mask, but the constant jokes. The mask is primarily to hide his identity

[@l3R0K3N8BIT]

Wasn't that in Marvel Zombies universe? Also, I thought that was why he makes so many jokes, so they couldn't pick up on how scared he actually was. The mask is cuz he wouldnt want his villains going after him or his family

[@guillermolopez2673]

@@l3R0K3N8BIT I think they're both for the same goal ultimately, but the jokes one is actually 100% true. Now I'm doubting on the mask one...

[@gx9183]

@@guillermolopez2673 Dunno if this is stated in the comics but like how the MCU handles Peter’s mask in that it helps him from overloading his senses when he first got his powers.

[@smashmaster521]

@@gx9183 That is specifically an MCU thing.

[@smashmaster521]

@@l3R0K3N8BIT As the resident Marvel Zombies expert, allow me to explain both points; The reason Spider-Man continues to wear his mask long after being infected with the Hunger Gospel is because he can't bring himself to look at his reflection in a mirror due to his guilt over eating MJ and Aunt May. It has nothing to do with his emotions (as far as I'm aware, anyway). The reason Spider-Man gives in Marvel Zombies for why he cracks jokes before and after being infected is so that; 1. His enemies don't realize how scared he is while fighting them (the reason he did it before being infected, and holds true for his main universe counterpart as well). 2. He doesn't dwell on all the lives he's ended over the last 40 years to satiate his hunger (the reason he does it after being infected).

[@Veprem]

I feel like the Ryan Reynolds Deadpool movies do an "emotive mask" perfectly. You see all the movement of his features as he speaks and reacts to things.

[@jamesfitzgerald1684]

I think that works for deadpool. Not so much spiderman.

[@OBSDCC7]

It’s because of the cg eyes that they use and Ryan being a very effective emoter with his physical performance

[@EthanRom]

I think there some shots in Spider-Man 2 where they cg'd mouth movements to his mask

[@coolgreenbug7551]

@@jamesfitzgerald1684 There is some middle ground between Tom Holland's mechanic eyes and Deadpool that will work i think

[@johannjohn9167]

Yeah

[@TheLegendofphantom]

Mark is such a phenomenal writer & speaker. His tones, inflections, pacing, delivery, and structure... honestly, it's all incredible. I'm not sure how you're able to write in a way that helps you remember the perfect inflection & delivery of every line, especially when your scripts get as long as this; it's almost superhuman in itself. When he speaks, he not only reminds me of the stories I've seen and/or love, but he paints them in my head again nearly as vividly as when I first watched them, sometimes to such a remarkable degree that it causes me to tear up. It's borderline magical how he's able to pull emotions out of me, when even the source material in real-time may not have done so. He's so gifted & talented, he's truly found his calling. It clearly doesn't have to be anime; Mark can talk about anything, and as long as he cares about it, or cares enough to put in the effort to ensure others have a good experience watching it, it'll be great. It happened many times with One Piece & Naruto, but it only really just hit me in this video: I could watch/listen to Mark review *anything* in depth (definitely gotta keep Editor-san & Ajay on the payroll though, they're doin God's work lol). I'm not sure what direction he'll go after the Toei difficulties, but now it's clear, the story doesn't matter, as long as Mark is putting his heart into it, it'll be outstanding (and quite possibly cause my eyes to overhydrate themselves). Can't wait to see what he does next.

[@FloundFahrdienst]

Your speech about your family and your fear of death really hit me. Because I went through the same thing when Spiderman 3 came out in 2007. You are right, hearing Rosemary Harris speech today brought tears to my eyes because its very moving to me. As always thank you for your reviews Mark :)

[@kimlustoza3093]

Actually, in the comics, Doc Ock himself states how much Peter is pulling his hits while hitting normal human beings like him.. Accepting if it should suffice or not is a personal matter in the end

[@ChristopherBrekke]

I'm sure his point was it's completely inefficient to hold back so much if you want to end it quickly. Even more so because that resulted in a train almost crashing

[@shineinouzen7412]

@@ChristopherBrekke but how if he goes too far, he could EASILY kill Octavius. Spider-Man is not a killer and would rather play it very safe. That's my headcanon at least.

[@ChristopherBrekke]

@@shineinouzen7412 Hit the temple, even with a pulled punch from **SPIDER-MAN** should be more than enough to knock him out.

[@jonathandelgado3755]

@@ChristopherBrekke Yeah, honestly even in 616 canon you’d think Spidey would’ve figured out just how much power to put into a single punch. I can overlook it but honestly Spidey should put away supervillains easily even while holding back. Lol

[@ChristopherBrekke]

@@jonathandelgado3755 Well yeah. It's nothing that bothers me, personally. It would ruin any tension if he's knocking people out or purposely holding back therefore putting lives at risk.

[@Metal-Spark]

I'm really glad you put such emphasis on the "There's a hero in all of us" speech. That has stuck with me since I first heard it and I tear up every damn time I hear those words. Although it's not directly linked to this video or these movies, I also loved the scene in Spiderverse where Miles buys the mask and asks "what if it doesn't fit?" And the store owner (of course none other than Stan Lee himself) responds "it always fits, eventually" Doesn't have the same emotionality to it but I think that's a moment that's often overlooked and carries a similar sentiment.

[@flysteel288]

I think it's important to remember that the original spiderman was drawn with that mask because it was easier than drawing the same face at 100 different angles It does detract from the actor's performance but most of the movies find ways around that in the most emotionally intense scenes

[@KingPancat]

Without Spider-Man 3, I don’t think we’d see the massive cultural presence of the raimi trilogy in the modern day. There’s so many memes in this movie that it immortalized the trilogy forever. This couldn’t have been done with the sheer quality of Spider-Man 1 and 2, since things like the planet of the apes trilogy are also perfectly made but are rarely talked about because they lack the qualities Spider-Man 3 gave to the raimi trilogy.

[@untitled3426]

I think the trilogy would have the cultural presence anyway but Spider-Man 3 did help the series status with its memes. Also It being the way it is quality wise helps people appreciate how good the first two movies really are imo.

[@buster3041]

Well hidden gems exist for a reason fam.

[@resikin]

Not just the memes, but the undying passion surrounding the performances and story.

[@steelhurricane4041]

...You're very young, aren't you?

[@dstinnettmusic]

@@steelhurricane4041 has to be. Like…memes = cultural power? The first two movies were HUGE. I think that the trilogy itself kind of captures what movies were like in that time and it would be considered as a big deal no matter how bad the third one was.

[@Me_Queen]

I've ALWAYS and FOREVER favor Tobey's Spider-Man it's just pure amazing.

[@thenameofthegame4037]

John 14:6

[@MarkARoutt]

The fights with Doc, you could argue that because the arms are in control of his nervous system, they are also in control of the pain that he actually feels.

[@T0pMan15]

You could also argue Peter isn’t punching him that hard because he doesn’t want to kill

[@MarkARoutt]

@@T0pMan15 hell that's probably even more likely. Peter don't want to kill Octavius. Or anyone.

[@Deathmare235]

@@T0pMan15 I’m pretty sure that goes for all the villains at least the Osborns as well

[@austinbryan6759]

It's a Canon fact that spiderman pulls his punches. In one comic doc Ock steals his body and starts punching people and they drop dead, and he realizes spiderman could have easily killed if this whole time. Not feel pain doesn't make your skull any stronger

[@chasejayjay0197]

@@austinbryan6759 Ah yes,superior spider man.

[@JetblackJay]

I'm gonna bring this up now before it happens but I think Andrew Garfield does a good job capturing the confidence cockiness and more fun personality Peter has as Spiderman

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

He's okay. My favorite is still Tobey overall, but looking back at it... Yeah he does an alright job (McDonald's toys could have used a lot more work though). Also I found you again pally. My vinyl antennas could not pick you up again for whatever reason; thankfully I found you once more. Notifications regarding you was also neutralized instead of "all the time", Let's hope YT doesn't screw this up more then the Neanthdral move of them removing the expression of dislikes, might as well remove that all together cause that barely meant anything anymore.

[@JetblackJay]

@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 👌

[@Starwarsdude8221991]

I will always say that between the first two actors lies the perfect Spider-Man/Peter

[@yujiyato8800]

hes literally the best spider man out of the three lmao

[@TyandOnGoing]

@@Starwarsdude8221991 Agreed people say tom is the best at both but fail to realize as a peter he doesn't deal with consequences and most of his movies run time are filled with jokes. Also, as spiderman I think he great but the influence of tony stark is way way too much in this movie as peter parker the character was never supported by a rich billionaire.

[@SolFloral]

The G-Fuel ad is literally the best ad I watched, everything from the start of it to the end had me actually hooked. Seeing my childhood favorite movies getting reviewed by a god-tier reviewer was like hearing everything I wanna hear and also pointing out flaws I could consider. I know a lot has been going on, but I just wanna say, keep up the great work Mark, you're a shining star.

[@RogersBase]

47:20 And then, the amnesia happens... Reminds me of another series we both love, LOL

[@jayxx_slayer9456]

I wonder what character it is definitely not a certain fire user

[@aaronlainez6191]

@@jayxx_slayer9456 I honestly thought about Big Mom first lol

[@tonysoprano4086]

@@jayxx_slayer9456 what series? I’m lost en

[@Mctorres420]

Sabo

[@oguzordu3415]

Berserk?

[@marshallseldon4200]

The whole" how strong is peter" bit in the second movie can be explain by the difference between lifting strength and striking strength. Just cause you can let very heavy objects doesn't automatically mean your punches can do the same thing.

[@AzureKite]

There's also the fact that Spidey is pulling his punches, since he doesn't want to accidentally kill anyone. He's nowhere near punching at maximum strength.

[@justjames391]

Spidey always pulls his punches. His full strength is scary

[@sexpanther60ofthetimeitwor93]

Even when I was a kid watching this in the cinema I always knew spidey pulled his punches especially against doc ock because he was so conflicted. When Aunt may is speaking about heros while moving home and the little kid helping her with her items I kinda felt she knew Peter was Spiderman.

[@Luchux177]

@@justjames391 a great scene in the Superior Spider-Man run was how Doc Ock tries to punch someone at full strenght and takes off their jaw. That's when he realices that if Peter wanted he could've killed him a long time ago.

[@ClubberOntop]

Also dock ock here has super human durability considering that he’s able to be sent through walls with no damage

[@Grandmaster_Dragonborn]

You're points about how fantastic Rosemary Harris' Aunt May is reminds me of how much of a poor job the MCU has done with her character. She's a shell of what she used to be.

[@indepth9930]

Have you seen no way home? Cuz I’m gonna need to spoil it to cover this, click read more if you did Aunt may dies after being treated like a one dimensional hot mom for two whole movies, the audience shouldn’t care about mcu may, but they do, the scene is well done but I can’t bring myself to care when I am not given a reason to, aunt may in the mcu is not a character who provides wisdom like Rosemary, she doesn’t give emotional moments, her first emotional moment in the mcu is literally her death. If rosemary Harris aunt may died, people would care, because she gave life advice that not only helped Peter, but some people in real life, she was a character we liked, mcu aunt may does nothing but get jokes about being a hot mom and then dies, there’s no weight behind it, theres no reason to care, it is all artificial, the weight you actually feel in that scene is just artificial, you could turn your brain off and maybe cry at that scene, but if you think about it, it’s nothing but forced. The acting is great and the score is too, the scene is well done, but it has no right to be because it is so damn bad.

[@Sgt.Dornan117]

It doesn't help they wrote her as a joke character in the MCU

[@dkfinitely]

@@indepth9930 I agree with the fact that she should've been written better, but she definitely did have moments where she gave advice to Peter. In Homecoming she helps him prepare for the homecoming party, she also confronts him about what he's been hiding from her and does her best in being in his life. In FFH she gave him advice on taking the suit just in case, and tried to always be there with him, even if they were far away. In NWH she gave him the advice of Helping all the villains, even if it cost her her life, as well as telling him that with great power there must also come great responsibility. While she did help Peter a lot, she could've been used more, as Marissa Tomie is a award winning actress and there was no reason to not give her more things in the movie. I couldn't find myself the ability to even cry at her death, yeah I cared about it, and I was kind of sad, but it wasn't sad enough to make me cry. Tbh I wasn't even surprised since they wrote her a lot better in this movie. (and I was spoiled to her death due to the internet.. even though I watched the movie a day early.)

[@Remix-pr4xd]

@@indepth9930 My one problem with MCU Aunt May is that they never established why she wants Peter to be Spider-Man. In Homecoming she tells Peter to run away from danger which makes sense because Ben died a few months before Homecoming and she is likely still reeling from his death. In FFH she pulls a 180 and packs Peter’s suit so that he can be Spider-Man.

[@Nightman221k]

In the first two movies everyone sexualizes her as a joke in every scene. When they made her job a charity worker it was nice but I wish they kept the depth there ALL ALONG rather than just when it was convenient for her narrative-wise. Cause her personality was barely explored till NWH and it was in service more to Peter having a reason to save Norman.

[@MalevolentMinun]

This video reminded me of why these films were such a high point of my childhood. From relating to the helplessness of pre-superpower Peter, then the everyday struggles of affording rent, maintaining friendship/relationships, to feelings of inadequacy and being unable to accomplish your goals when it quite literally feels like the entire world is against you, hits me now more than ever as a 29 year old. As much as I enjoyed the Garfield and Holland movies, the Raimi/Maguire trilogy will forever be my favourite superhero movies, even more so just favourite movies overall and I will never tire of the morals, ideals and genuine struggles these stories do such a fantastic job of displaying. Your 30-minute moment about the declining health of your family members and the eventual anxiety surrounding your own mortality is such a universally relatable mindset. I can't even stress how much (as stupid as it may sound) how much this video choked me up. It's those kind of moments during such well thought out and in depth analysis scripts that make me keep coming back to this channel. The sheer effort and genuine thought-provoking dialogue these video essays instill are just absolutely fantastic. Thanks for everything you do Mark. In the words of the incredible Aunt May; there's a hero in all of us.

[@OshawottLuke]

The third one, even if it's not as strong as the first two, is still a good movie and doesn't have nearly as many flaws as people make it out to be. It's just that its development of the villains is a bit inconclusive as full stories because there were 3 villain stories being cooked while Peter's own story was also being cooked, so kind of 4 important storylines. Sandman, Harry, the symbiote and Eddie combined as 1 storyline kinda because of how he ends up being a villain, and Peter. Even though it's not perfectly developed, it has great stories in there, it just needed to have a few more scenes of each and it would've been perfect. It's like you order 3 dishes of food and each comes with only 80% of what they should've come with. It's still a good amount, they're not small dishes enough to be too small, just needed to have a bit more on each part, but the finished product is still good even if it's not fully completed. And the stories being told were at parts good and at parts great. Sandman's was nice even though it wasn't finished, but enough for him to have a purpose so I liked him as a villain, he got the daughter thing and the uncle Ben thing, it was enough, a bit flat but he did get motivation and even backstory, and Peter forgives him knowing that he himself made many errors and hurt people and decided to just forgive him and put stuff in the past since Sandman killing Ben was not intentional. Harry was great, it's not like he needed a lot more than what he got, he got to fight Peter, confront him, be hurt by him, ended up being a villain when he fought him at night and then helped in the final fight and died. And we already had seen him in the first 2 movies so the cake was already baked well enough. The symbiote, well, with Peter it was great, it gave him power but also corrupted him, Peter had many scenes showing that so on that part it was amazing, Peter dancing and being a douche is in character with the symbiote making him be selfish and stuff, it's funny out of context but it's not a flaw of the movie or anything that makes the movie worse by any means, the audience disliking Bully Maguire is EXACTLY what Peter acting like a douche because of the symbiote should've caused and did. Then with Eddie it was great as a threat to Peter too because Venom was very powerful. The only thing missing was a bit more development for Eddie even though it wasn't really needed in the movie's context. Eddie had already been fired because of Peter, had extremely fresh resentment towards him, the symbiote got him and told him it was Peter and both of them wanted him, Eddie to destroy him and the symbiote too but it kind of wanted for Peter to be his host if possible, the thing is both wanted to hurt Peter. And about Peter, he had a lot of development in this movie too, he could've used a bit more to match what he had in the first 2 movies had there not been 3 other important plots, but it was still great because it didn't rush the symbiote making him selfish, it really had many scenes of him being like that. So I never understood the actual points of why so many people say that the third one is bad apart from: - People disliking Bully Maguire, which is actually the strongest aspect of the movie, making so many people dislike the hero's actions when they're supposed to. - The villains not having enough development as the others in movies 1 and 2. - Venom not being as great as everyone expected, which is the same as the point above this but enhanced by it being so expected to be great. - And with almost everyone saying that it's a bad movie, people will jump to that conclusion too omitting that it never reaches the "bad" level, it's a special case of the movie not having enough scenes but also not having too few to make it bad. But it was never a bad movie or anything close to that, it's just one of those pieces of art kind of buried by the "oh it's bad" comments when it's actually good overall. It was great in many ways, it was decent with others, the characters act like they're supposed to act with what happens to them in the movie, it just needed some more scenes to be really strong but it's jarring how people just ignore how the characters and stories are good and just see how there should've been more scenes or one less villain, as if the final product weren't good on its own when it is. A movie can be the weakest part of its trilogy, have problems and still be good.

[@Shamilscorner]

Perfect example the og Star Wars trilogy I love return of the jedi and a lot of people say is bad cause is the weakest one out of the 3 doesn’t mean is bad or anything in a trilogy there is always a movie that is prone to be the weakest but that doesn’t make it automatically bad except the prequels on Star Wars the first 2 were kind of bad idk I still watch them and enjoy them but they don’t get at the point that revenge of the sith does but is those 2 I think that objectively it has wayyy many flaws but yeah 1 will always be the weak doesn’t mean is bad

[@sebastianreyes4839]

God bless you

[@danielz-v4083]

I never ceases to amaze me when I see people actually saying “yeah, third one was a good movie”. Man, unless you’re mildly drunk, high or just have a damn good sense of humor, the third movie is dogshit with some sprinkles of decent scenes . You’re trying too hard to defend a bad movie

[@OshawottLuke]

@@danielz-v4083 Aww it's one of those who have always thought that the movie was bad and denies confronting that it's actually good and that they might have been wrong about something all these years even after people write down the reasons why it's good and even when the video uploader also provided reasons and explained the main storylines and how they're mostly great ❤ keep denying it to yourself as long as you want to play that game with yourself, there's no point in denying an 80% great/good movie saying that the 20% decent/flat part makes it bad. Good luck!

[@sebastianreyes4839]

@@danielz-v4083 what do you know about movies my man? I’m pretty sure your fav movie is fast & furious

[@alexanderwhite9438]

Holy cow I already loved the ramai trilogy but this video made me love it even more I even tiered up multiple times showing this trilogy it’s strengths and why this trilogy was very true Spider-Man I’m also happy people are talking about the trilogy again also your gfeul commercial made me think it was official you did a really good job and I’m impressed about this whole video

[@Worm-revolver]

The suits design was specifically made because of the digital cameras at the time. I don't remember the problem exactly but I believe it's because they had a problem with blurring red and blue. The silver webbing helped reduce that blurring and keep the cameras focus. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I learned that because it was a decade ago when I did.

[@angolin9352]

@LoSLakaFan28 Whoever told you that the first Raimi movie had a black-webbed suit is a liar. All of the Raimi movies give Spidey's costume silver webbing instead of the black in the comics.

[@christianlopez2793]

@LoSLakaFan28 it was red and black in his first comic book

[@nectarinedreams7208]

What digital cameras? These movies were shot on film

[@TheJourneyDude]

I remember hearing something of similar effect around the same time.

[@TBAG]

absolutely FANTASTIC review man. I love the fact that the holy trilogy is still so iconic and important for so many people. My fav films by far. nice job👍

[@TheBlankEvolved]

Sup

[@moroseloki1912]

Holy? Was that/those films blessed? Ororoor cursed.

[@moroseloki1912]

Watched them again Holy indeed.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooooo check out my sam raimi trilogy review brah

[@another15]

Hi, Mark! Just lemme tell you something! I was never so happy for a recommended video before... Out of all Spider-Man video essays, yours is the one that really resonated with me. Once in a while I would see some of your DBS videos or recently Berserk (my favorite manga) but seeing you review about Spidey really hit me hard and I couldn't help but come here and say some words, also subscribe to your channel a thing I hardly do since I don't spent as much time on the internet as before. To start, I am here with tears in my eyes and I want to say I feel sorry for your loss and what you've been though these past years, I too have been through a lot. My best friend and surrogate brother passed away two years ago and recently May this year my dear granny, which was more like my mom since she raised me with my aunt since I was a kid. I was lucky for seeing her one last time at the burial but couldn't stay with her at hospital due what's happening right now in this world, even tho it was pneumonia. It always left me the feeling of lack of resolve since when I was born I was also very ill and for years she stood by my side holding my hands in the hospital and I couldn't do the same. I tried so hard. And just like you I had really hard time with anxiety and all that comes together for all the hardships we went through our lives until them, although I am trying my best now. But the reason I am saying this is, I really hope you are ok and I am very thankful for such honest take and video. I love these Spider-Man movies and recently have been rewatching over and over due to their eternal message of conflict and hardship, how one should do its best despite all odds, which frankly is why the Sam Raimi trilogy always felt special to me since I was a teen. Back then I thought I knew what was hard until very recently I am facing my losses, the mistakes of the past, being and adult and not having a job for so long and feeling like the whole world is against me rising up again. Still, like many other things in this life, memories, people, videos like these, we find a glimpse of positivity, words that makes worth to fight for. This is why I find it hard to connect to new Spidey movies and comic books and I don't say that to be mean and shit on their fans and strenghts, it's just because the Raimi trilogy resonated better with me back then and much more now that life can sometimes look so tough. I look on my old pile of Spidey comic books and they helped me so much back then and their messages were so good like "The Boy that collects Spider-Man" or more "recently" 'Leah' among others that makes us feel immersed and different, more than an action flick or full cgi fun, it was just different and about your video I think you nailed it, I can see how much effort and passion you put in these videos you make but also the honesty behind your works. I can only be thankful, today I think I needed some of your words. Sorry for oversharing here and also the long essay, I am not as good as you speaking up my mind, besides, english is not even my native language. But again, I really appreciate this video and I just wanted to say your words really touched me and how I really feel by rewatching those pieces. Have a great day =)

[@Dude-mm5sf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-8qYJsnayroM0 Spiderman swinging / take a look / miles morales

[@Poolio_10]

I think the reason Peter can't instantly down Otto is fear. He's scared to hurt him because he knows how strong he is. I don't think he has as fine a control over his strength as he'd like so he's constantly worried about accidentally killing him by punching his head off. I think he's pulling his punches more than he needs to because he doesn't know the razor thin line between a knock out and a murder

[@rotary_mullet319]

This is my head canon now

[@raedien]

I agree this is what they went with but there's a world where the choreography included Otto using the mecha arms to defend more often as well.

[@j_quan2594]

35:02 That would've went through him if he actually got hit😂

[@LilAnonomus]

I can buy that considering his mental state affects his power.

[@firepork082]

Yeah Peter isn't like a dragon ball character where he can specifically choose what power to use. It makes sense that he would try to underplay his strength rather than risk overplaying it and killing otto

[@Exclusivesadblues]

Mark I’ve been watching you for a long time ever since you reviewed goku’s character. The amount of attention to detail you put on every video makes you not just my favorite reviewer but my hero. I lost my grandmother as well but she had been sick for years so in a way it was a relief but I never got to say goodbye she lived in Africa and I was in America and what’s worse she’ll never see what I was going to be in the future so thank you very much for reviewing this movie and reminding me what’s really important

[@Mikkovlog]

8:47 on the other hand. This stiff mask makes it more universal. Because everyone could be behind that mask and that is what spiderman is about.

[@Ace-vh6so]

Thats what I think

[@Yuricorru]

Honestly Loved his rendition because he really felt like a boy coming into the adult world with brand new Powers, he feels believable, real. He’s cringey, funny, annoying sometimes, dumb sometimes smart others and the arc he has in Spider-Man 2 feels believable

[@DragonBallNOW]

It's more believable simply because he's much more relatable as unlike Tom's Spiderman (Which is still an awesome rendition) Tobey wasn't gifted with the Avengers and Stark Tech. He had to work up all on his own without any benefits. Just like in real life how most people are not gifted into riches and the majority have to power through the pain and work for it.

[@WillCrowe101]

This is probably the greatest review of this series I’ve seen so far. Ive always known the morals, messages and lessons of these movies, it’s just I’ve always had a hard time explaining them not only to myself but others. Almost every point made in this video I completely 100% agree with. I saw Raimi’s first Spider-Man barely over the age of 1 in 2002, and the profound impact it made on me has followed me into my adulthood and will transcend all the way to my death. The bit where you talked about May’s speech in 2 genuinely made me cry because this movie inspires me the same way it does you. Thank you for this review, can’t wait to see my generation’s Spider-Man on the big screen again in a few weeks.

[@Dave.A.R]

Loved the video. Yet I disagree with the emotionless mask as a "bad" choice as it fulfills the actual purpose of wearing it. You see, while Norman wears an intimidating mask/helmet akin to his personality and lust of power, Peter uses it to hide his emotions, which is coherent to his more reserved nature.

[@quads2483]

peter shouldnt be reserved as spiderman

[@Chocokaylarobin]

I feel like Tobey is the best compared to the other two. Each one has their own distinct thing that I like like Toms child like attitude embodies Peter and Andrews quick one liners are hilarious but Tobey is the foundation I love how Peter not only juggles being an adult like paying bills, having a job, having a relationship while also juggling being a hero was always more reliable to me.

[@Sub4RubsNmemes]

But he’s so boring and not funny, like at all. The only reason Toby is considered the best Spider-Man is because people are blinded by nostalgia but besides that he has nothing going for him. The other 2 Spider-Man’s are better imo

[@Sub4RubsNmemes]

An even more unpopular opinion, Andrew is the best Spider-Man. Toms Spider-Man seems like he’s trying to be too funny but tbh Andrew is pretty good especially when he’s actually Spider-Man. Also I’m not judging on how good the actors are I’m judging on how the characters were written.

[@John_shepard]

@@Sub4RubsNmemes he’s a dork he’s not supposed to be naturally funny he’s more awkward than anything he was made that way by Stan lee to be more relatable to the readers. He’s the best interpretation of Spider-Man. Too many people have gotten used to snarky remarks and comedy due to Robert Downey jr perfecting the role of iron man. I did enjoy Garfield it’s just he didn’t get the credit or resources he deserved

[@killar1one]

@@Sub4RubsNmemes keep that same energy when you learn tobey is the most comic accurate Peter

[@jonajo9757]

@@killar1one Wait, you're telling me Tobey's Peter was a resentful jerk that didn't care about what happened to anyone besides his parental figures who actively attempted to ask out girls with confidence, and bantered with Flash and other people while using his newfound powers to become a stunt performer and celebrity that actively ignored a criminal because he could since 'No one will push me around anymore?' Because that's how Peter was originally. Hell, there are other things I could point out such as Peter being somewhat good looking when he acts mature, being inspired by supposed mentor figures such as Johnny Storm during an assembly where he gave a speech, or even Peter originally having intentions to join the Fantastic Four for financial reasons. Not only that, but Tobey was never able to use his specialty in science to counter his villains such as when Peter was able to put two of Doc Ock's arms out of commission by making a chemical that fused them together mid combat.

[@MrBigtank78]

The Birth Of Sandman in Spider-Man 3 was one of the most awe inspiring thing I saw. Everything from the moment the first sand pebble starts forming him losing his form for a second only for him to bring himself back together again including the soundtrack Jesus it’s so damn beautiful.

[@FawwazSyarif]

Fun fact: during the thanksgiving lunch seen, we can see Peter wears green shirt while Norman wears blue shirt and red tie. This shows the opposite sides of both characters even more.

[@Dude-mm5sf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-8qYJsnayroM0 Spiderman swinging / take a look / miles morales

[@kaybigg]

When I saw them on the table I actually thought out loud that they were wearing each other's colours.. Glad am not the only one who noticed it..

[@MegaMask335]

What a masterful review of an iconic superhero movie trilogy. I never realized until now how the themes of dealing with responsibility, putting others' needs before ourselves, and overcoming negativity (through our community or our close ones) created thematic parallels between Peter and each of the villains in the trilogy. I also loved your analysis on Peter's character arc and it made me appreciate Mary Jane and Aunt May's characters more than when I saw these movies for the first time. 30:53 - 33:19 felt so emotionally resonant that it renewed my inspiration to try my best and keep going after almost giving up. To keep going in difficult times is hard but not impossible. Thank you for inspiring the hero in us when we needed it most.

[@Dude-mm5sf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-8qYJsnayroM0 Spiderman swinging / take a look / miles morales

[@SonicXeno]

6:07 While I do think the mask design philosophy is a fair critique, as it is an inherent issue when transferring the facial expressions of a dude wearing a mask from comics to live action, the Spidey mask in live action works because you can't tell who's supposed to be in the mask. Unlike other Marvel heroes who either don't care about hiding their identities or would like the whole world to know who they are under the mask like your Iron Mans, your Doctor Stranges, your Guardians of the Galaxy, and so on; Spidey has always been a character where no matter which incarnation or universe the Spidey comes from, the mask is always a blank slate for whatever that version of Spidey is as a person underneath the title of being a Spider-Man. "Anybody can wear the mask", as a certain animated film about a Spider-Verse would like to say. Which was an aspect of Spider-Man as a general character that I feel like wasn't really brought up when addressing the mask issue as much as it was an issue for Peter being the only Spider-Man to exist within the three live action universes

[@sodaandcookies1]

to me its as simple as, his voice is emoting ...thats all he needs to get across to us

[@tmerchead1]

Mark not knowing how masks works is odd.

[@TyandOnGoing]

Yep one of stan lee's greatest themes with spiderman.

[@exlordinthedude8080]

@@sodaandcookies1 yeh but I'm not too sure you can really show the mouth without it looking fucking weird tbh.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooooo check out my sam raimi trilogy review brah

[@JoJoTalksTooMuch]

I completely agree and relate to your thoughts on the Aunt May speech, even going beyond superhero films, it's one of the greatest speeches I've ever seen on film.

[@questioneverything680]

What’s funny about 35:04 is that in the comics, Doc Oc actually becomes Spider-Man and he realizes JUST how much Peter pulls his punches and that if Peter wanted to kill him he could’ve been killed him.

[@VarjoPira]

Even massively pulling his punches, Peter (and others) caused permanent brain damage to Otto over time.

[@LegacyDaKing]

58 minutes? You’ve truly blessed us this December Mark!

[@AxxLAfriku]

NO, NOW YOU LISTEN TO ME! why should i waste my time at school? i am super famous on youtube. tell me, dear l3

[@bmattwang]

Thank You for pointing out Doc OC surviving Spidey Punches was WEIRD, as that had Bothered me For YEARS since 2004.

[@joltx9909]

Its amazing how when we rewatch things we loved as kids we learn to appreciate them from an entirely different angle. while we don't have the same pure enjoyment and excitement we had as kids, we gained the ability to appriciate writing aspects which are only available to us as adults. its fascinating

[@zehark]

Mark's ability to showcase the good in nest of the works he reviews has legitimately given me a more positive outlook on life itself.

[@wissypissy]

Spiderman 2 is the greatest superhero movie ever made. I love this trilogy so very deeply due to how much love Raimi put into bringing these characters to life on the big screen. The quality of writing in Spiderman 1 and 2 alone is truly astounding and endearing.

[@zyphyris]

This series is gonna give me a good reason to binge all the Spidey films once again lol. Watched the Amazing Spider-Man films for the first time a couple weeks ago so I'm looking forward to see how next week's review turns out. I actually enjoyed them so it's a shame how much their high points are brushed aside by fans, but I can also see why they got the reception they did.

[@KingSpectre844]

The thing with those films is, as a whole, each one isn't very good. (The second especially, the first could actually be salvaged with a few scene fixes as well as injecting a lot of Dr Connor's character building that was left on the cutting room floor.) but, they have shining moments sprinkled throughout that are absolute diamonds. It's a real shame the "Amazing" movies turned out as poorly as they did. They had the potential to be truly great.

[@gama103]

@@KingSpectre844 they are great. Just because they have low points it doesn’t mean the overall movie is bad.

[@TyandOnGoing]

@@KingSpectre844 Yea I just don't think it is as impactful as the raimi films. Peter life wasn't focused too much in the amazing films especially in the 2nd movie, which I think is a major hindrance because the balance between spidey and peter is a major selling point atleast imo.

[@chriscannon8144]

Same, and I mainly blame Sony for it, since like what they did with Raimi, Sony kept interfering with Marc Webb's original vision.

[@zyphyris]

@@KingSpectre844 That's a great way to describe it, actually. I've seen the deleted scenes and TASM 1 definitely would've benefitted a lot from those cut scenes with Dr. Connors. Found it weird that they never showed his family. I still liked the movies a lot, but man. The potential was definitely there.

[@NexusZ97]

I love that Otto seems to act on baser instincts when relying on the arms. The singular goal that he has been chasing before the accident is the one thing that rewards his brain. How he can’t seem to fully grasp Peter as Spider-Man in the climax, but doesn’t seem entirely surprised. His higher brain has it figured out, but his instinct hasn’t made the connection between the thing preventing him from his goal and the responsible hero in Spider-Man. Otto is clearly incredibly intelligent, but the arms are feeding the input of his lowest instincts back into him, muddling his Morality and Ethics.

[@fayeharrison1741]

Referring to the Aunt May Garage Sale scene; I once heard when you're dying, it's hard on everyone around you, and sometimes even though you're the one going through the suffering, the ones you love round you suffer worse. Even if you know what's going to happen, staying strong and comforting those around you will be more of an impact then you could imagine. I saw it as very selfless, but I understand now after a recent matter with a family member who stayed strong, accepting their terms and gave new hope to us, it helped us move on and to look forward to a brighter future with a stronger tomorrow, wishing we could do the same to those who follow. "It might be the end of my world, but it isn't the end of yours".

[@austindime5514]

I actually just rewatched all 3 movies last week. And yeah, you were able to put into words what I couldn't about Aunt May's speech. Brought me to tears. Love your videos man

[@voss456]

Seeing Stan Lee’s cameos in this movie, especially the ones where he basically paraphrases the messages he played a part in conveying through the comics, just makes me miss him so much more.

[@LilleyComix97]

wow.... I never cry during reviews, but you hit me home... I may not have lost my grandma too recently, but I too lost her to cancer in 2017... Rosemary Harris as Aunt May too reminds me of a combo of her and my great grandma... Thank you for bringing me memories of my beloved inspiring grandmas! They are still in my heart as is your grandma to you! They are our heroes!

[@painvillegaming4119]

34:57 in the comic Spider-Man is notorious for pulling his punches The guy has incredible levels of super strength he can break trough steel easily He tries his best not to hurt people

[@lucaspintooc]

Just took the time to say that at 13 minutes, I thought to myself "is he gonna review all three movies?" and then saw the video goes for more 40 minutes, and I smiled from ear to ear. Thank you Mark and thank you team behind this project. Love yall.

[@almightyleezus]

I too lost my grandmother last year without being able to say goodbye. And about 6 months ago, I lost my father as well to cancer. Your speech about what you went through nearly drove me to tears with how relatable it was. I now take care of my mom and the added responsibility has been draining to say the least, but it has brought out a deep inner strength that I never knew I had. the part about there being a hero in all of us hit deep. It was something I needed to hear. Thank you mark.

[@ltjgambrose]

I'm sure you already have it planned, but please include "Into the Spider-Verse" in this series. Shameik Moore, Jake Johnson, Hailee Steinfeld, and all of the other Spiders in that film gave fantastic performances and really explored "what it means to be Spider-Man".

[@bioraidos5454]

And offered what I consider to be a much better origin story for Miles. Which is surprising given that usually thrusting a rookie character into such a major world ending mess right off the bat is a big risk that more often than not doesn't pay off. But they managed to actually nail it like the romans on that one

[@CrossOutBryce]

He's not doing it. He already said which ones he's covering and when they come out

[@sixis268]

34:45 As someone who routinely power scales anime, there is a big difference between punching strength and lifting strength. Superman for example, superman can lift and/or move planets but not every one of his punches is gonna blow up a planet.

[@Zlypi]

"If Peter can do -this- and -this- and -this- he should be able to knock out Doc Oc, even if he's pulling his punches." They actually address this in the Superior Spiderman comics. Peter is always subconsciously pulling his punches to not just kill everyone he fights. As in. His limits aren't physical. They're psychological.

[@dd9059]

These movies ain't perfect, but the cheesiness and silliness enhance the experience so much. And it fits with the Spider-Man vibe. Great movies

[@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen9953]

They aren’t but Spider-man 1 and especially 2 are damn near close to perfect imo. 3 is well a guilty pleasure and honestly over hated haha

[@venom7558]

The Raimi trilogy has been,and probably will always be my most loved film series. I adore all 3 movies SOOOOOOO much.

[@plebgaming7874]

When it comes to Otto not getting knocked out by Peter's punches, I like to imagine the tentacles AI were forcing him to remain conscious despite the blunt force trauma. Ock in comics ended up with extensive brain damage and other injuries over his rivalry with Spider-Man.

[@HolyDeviant1]

I urge everyone to read the original comic books (the Lee-Ditko series) if you haven't. They hold up so much better than you might expect, and are worth every penny regardless of the medium you get them in. Very fun and shockingly ahead of their time!

[@VarjoPira]

Mid-60's to mid-70s was peak Spider-Man!

[@JosephFlores-yn4yi]

I recomend the Romita Sr era too

[@painvillegaming4119]

@@VarjoPira I would also add the 80

[@W00pituScoopity]

The Bendis Ultimate run is probably the best comic introduction tho

[@painvillegaming4119]

@@W00pituScoopity as much I like the ultimate Spider-Man (I would even argue it the only good book bendis done ) Nothing beats the original And the book suffers of a lot of stuff the ultimate universe suffered from