This Mass Queen Rush Is Super Strong... (Zerg Cheese to GM #6)

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10 ай бұрын

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@gskills55 10 ай бұрын

In the first game, he had fully walled the bottom ramp by the time your banelings were marching toward his base, so when you clicked your banelings on the high ground supply depot they derp'd because there was no pathing.

@wolvie90 10 ай бұрын

Also last time I chekced, Banelings have a setting to autotarget buildings (turned off by default), this might have derped the AI further.

@Ninjaguy1b 10 ай бұрын

@@wolvie90 That is true, but not relevant here because the banelings were right-clicked directly on the reactor, meaning no matter what unit they were they would only attack that reactor. Zerglings or hydras would have done the same thing in this situation, having no legal path and then trying to go into the third base to get as close as possible. The no-attack-building toggle will never effect pathing except for when the banelings are A-moving the ground past buildings, at which point they will of course choose to attack the building or not when it comes into range.

@lekhakaananta5864 10 ай бұрын

It's an interesting choice in game design; if it were me I'd design it so that unit pathing only consider visible obstacles. If the enemy completes a wall that you haven't scouted yet, your units should take the path as if there was no such wall, and only when the wall becomes scouted do they consider it as an obstacle.

@leafypotatostyle 10 ай бұрын

Starcraft is a lot like chess -make as many queens as possible without losing the game outright

@WhatsY0UTUB3 10 ай бұрын

or - queens are the best unit in the game

@WhyWhatWhoWhenWhyAgain 2 ай бұрын

Definitely modern chess. I think that's why is was so popular, and still has a following. I can see controlling lanes and countering pieces, resources management is even like pawn management.

@user-mv2nn6rw2w 10 ай бұрын

For that queen game, you can a) bring a ovie so you can drop creep once you get lair b) bring a drone, do the hatch cancel trick and put down a tumor on the creep

@Blacksmith__ 10 ай бұрын

Yeah he should really try a queen rush and do the portable creep trick

@Name-ru1kt 10 ай бұрын

Its much better to get a lair and make droplords. Queens take forever to get across expecially without much creep. Ik the drone thing sounds cool but normally they just snipe the tumor since its got like one hp and then your just sad. You had to bank 300 minerals and waste mining time so you can’t reinforce with lings

@galaxeon797 10 ай бұрын

as a zerg player - last one was pretty standart blind play from terran against zerg: full wall with a bunker in case of zerlings, and mass steam marines with tanks. Really wanted to see how you get out of that....)))

@natecw4164 10 ай бұрын

Naked Drone 33 and a Half staring Leslie Neilson. Easy to remember that drone count 😂

@Name-ru1kt 10 ай бұрын

I play zerg and protoss and was pretty funny to me when you made a lair to stop them from going stargate Here is a tip. Protoss will ALWAYS go stargate if they see a lair because of two base muta. Even if its something else their oricals will be out in time to see what tech it is.

@____GoMeZ____ 10 ай бұрын

Thermy you HAVE to try my patented "Burrow Rush" TM build. Your first 100 gas goes to burrow, the next 150 goes to lair, you rush with 4 roaches at 330 when burrow finishes. It'd be insane with your micro!

@alk672 10 ай бұрын

I don't think that last 2-1-1 terran blind countered. He probably just plays like that every TvZ.

@bludragon47 8 ай бұрын

I do something similar. I often will blind bunker so my natural doesn’t get ling flooded 4 min in.

@kaiser2261 10 ай бұрын

I think if someone is blind countering you, go for the nydus to go for outplays and chaos - trying to brute force the heavily fortified front door is tough

@UtmostOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

You brighten my day Mark! Thanks for the entertainment!

@joelv4495 10 ай бұрын

@2:30 That would be an interesting series... Thermy must play "normal" against the best cheeses possible. Probably would need to be on a private server as the ladder games aren't guaranteed to be ridiculous cheeses though.

@52flyingbicycles 10 ай бұрын

Ideas for build challenges: commander based builds. Like from co-op Raynor: marines and battlecruisers Dehaka: evolved Zerg (banes, ravagers, lurkers, brood lords) Vorazun: DTs and Void Rays Mengsk: mass nukes Zagara: mass baneling

@zackblack1824 10 ай бұрын

When you get as comfortable with Zerg as you are with Terran, I think you'll be unstoppable.

@mikojYT 10 ай бұрын

My daily dose of cheese mmm

@chir0pter 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate that you're giving folks every opportunity to blind counter with the name in addition to the dumb strats, even if it results in some losses it keeps it from being just smurfing

@saswatadebnath 10 ай бұрын

2:33 New Challenge for uThermal... Play Normal to GM

@threedawg 10 ай бұрын

It probably isnt blind counter, a guy made a zerg to GM series using roach timing and ravager all in. Great videos I have been watching all of them, my favorites are the ones like the swarm host all in type of shenanigans.

@bahorvan7990 10 ай бұрын

Noticed you did a "terran" move when you sent a drone to make a hatchery on natural, and at the moment I thought: what happens to 5 minerals you took? Does it "disappear* ot they are added to your" bank"? Has anybody had this experiment?))

@Szokynyovics 10 ай бұрын

Disappear, I think...

@nanahcubsemaj 10 ай бұрын

Yeah 100% disappears

@D41k1r1 10 ай бұрын

Omfg i'm still pending on the Carrier rush one, can't wait to get out of work. I already know it's gonna be a blast

@MrMcSnuffyFluffy 10 ай бұрын

That's actually one of his best vids in a while. He did some serious mind games.

@DavidJohnsonFromSeattle 10 ай бұрын

It is weird seeing more lagtv comments around here while also seeing more uthermal comments on lagtv. It makes me hope for a collab. p.s. dragon cleavage ftw

@chayvalorant 10 ай бұрын

hyun did something way way way back, which il never forget, he rushed ultras with mass queens and just injected over n over n over again into the ultralisk to heal it, 1 ultra n i think 15 queens or something lol - EDIT - was called the hyundralisk

@ralphm4132 9 ай бұрын

was that in the days when one did not need creep to transfuse? I guess with 15 queens it would be easy enough to spread creep though.

@DrYmath 10 ай бұрын

"I really want to play zerg and protoss more" YES YES YES YES YES!

@chloesmith4065 10 ай бұрын

Thermy will ascend to Random

@filthcauldron2441 10 ай бұрын

I cant stop thinking about the 33 and a half drones. Is it a small drone? Is it missing its back or front half? Questions!

@FlashFoxBox 10 ай бұрын

uThermal's smile while watching enemys decision be like: "I'm better then you... AND you know it !!"

@Phyress1337 10 ай бұрын

The pathfinding already knows that its blocked, so units are aimlessly walking around the position. He clicked right, but pathfinding knows it better.

@petomni 10 ай бұрын

Huge fan, love your videos, but one thing that drives me bonkers is mining minerals with the drone and then making a hatchery out of it XD habits from terran die hard

@bookworm8415 10 ай бұрын

Is it possible to do a queen walk that is sped up with overlord dropped creep? Is that even a viable build or concept? I've not seen it done… Maybe harstem did it. Not sure.

@altonito777 13 күн бұрын

i've seen it already, its a great idea but usually we see either nydus or a queen walk/drop with overlords to put tumors (requires less apm I guess)

@davidelrizzo 10 ай бұрын

More crazy unit cheese please 🧀 ULTRALISKS, fast Brood Lords!

@zynori_ 9 ай бұрын

Why did you mine minerals with the drone before making your natural? Doesn't that make the minerals disappear from the game?

@altonito777 13 күн бұрын

terran habits

@benihanah 10 ай бұрын

The fact that you won 2/3 games despite fumbling the micro is a testament to your experience and adaptability. GGWP!!!

@alexhramovic3819 10 ай бұрын

yeah!

@Necrocidal 10 ай бұрын

Have you tried tempest rush vs zerg?

@chloesmith4065 10 ай бұрын

This actually works a lot better than it should. Especially once you have 5 tempest and can start one-shotting queens.

@kyleg5141 10 ай бұрын

Love the content man and I'm so excited for rts. The game scarlett and cats are working on and stormgate being so close to a playable state is going to be awesome. I think it's a race to get one to beta to take all the hype.

@josefanon8504 10 ай бұрын

hey thermy, can you try the "german taxi" cheese?

@WitherBossEntity 10 ай бұрын

Corrosive bile is clearly an effective weapon against oracles.

@weirenlow9599 10 ай бұрын

could u do a one base brood lord lol

@Kirk.television 10 ай бұрын

Let's go

@Blacksmith__ 10 ай бұрын

Is it possible to build a proxy hatch and then build your queens on the enemy side of the map to avoid the slow-walk?

@TordStromdal 10 ай бұрын

When walking the queens across, maybe bring one drone to temporarily make a hatch to get a little bit of creep to put a tumor. That way you'll have the ability to transfuse.

@altonito777 13 күн бұрын

or an overlord :P

@FlawlesSanshiro 10 ай бұрын

@GruppeSechs 10 ай бұрын

Do people just forget overlords can literally poop creep anywhere they want to make queen healing stations? It's so baffling to me how little overlords are utilized.

@DagAreHalland 3 ай бұрын

Immortal vd queens. I'm wondering if lots of these videos are working because the opponent luckily doesn't get the counter units.

@geuros 10 ай бұрын

What about proxying the tech, like doing the hatch cancel into roach warren or bane nest somewhere on the edge of the map so they can scout you all they want (and you purposefully let them do so) and then you send it

@Gitalien1 10 ай бұрын

Last game could have open the door to nydus...

@michaelnatterer5370 10 ай бұрын

New challenge: Deathless!

@Bump33 10 ай бұрын

❤

@2pairOfAces 10 ай бұрын

I'm disappointed in the last Terran game, how could he not say "Marq, you magnificent bastard, I watched your stream!"

@chloesmith4065 10 ай бұрын

Patton approves

@leykias 10 ай бұрын

Loved how you gave a nod to the player who beat you in the last game. Respectable!

@worshaka 10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you defend cheese starts. If they were undefendable, macro games wouldn't be a thing whatsoever. If there is an imbalanced strategy for outrageous win percentage, the community would jump on that en masse. While strategy popularity combined with win percentage isn't the only measure of true balance, it's a pretty good indicator.

@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll 10 ай бұрын

Farted so hard I had to wipe my butt

@krunkcleanup2949 10 ай бұрын

I fixed your title for you ;) This Mass Brenda Rush Is Super Strong... (Zerg Cheese to GM #6)

@MichaelGreen831 10 ай бұрын

There is an old cheese tactic where you have OVs spread patches of creep on the path your queens and roaches take. The path isn’t perfect, but they get on target faster.

@enriquegarciacota3914 10 ай бұрын

Serral did that against Maru, it was a good opening against 3-rack reaper

@chloesmith4065 10 ай бұрын

Overlord speed highway!

@tfat00 10 ай бұрын

I don’t consider countering your opponent based on what you scout as “cheese” But still fun to watch ❤

@michaelswain868 10 ай бұрын

You can always proxy hatch put down a creep tumor and cancel send the drone back or morph to spine or spore to try make a queen walk stronger. The transfuse is huge.

@alfiey5783 10 ай бұрын

I actually like watching you lose 😂 its more entertaining

@Alorand 10 ай бұрын

I would love to have uThermal do a creep spreading challenge. Try to cover as much of the map as possible as fast as possible. If he micros the creep tumors like he micros widow mines...

@CustomClass5 10 ай бұрын

Would love to see you get a taste of your own medicine so to speak in a challenge where you have to defend against other people playing your own cheesy builds where you don't know what build they're going to do

@soulofshukaku 10 ай бұрын

Please. Spread more creep! It hurt watching brenda walk from the main to the rally point by the third. Bring an overlord to poop creep too! So many options, those poor queens are so slow and sad.

@Psylent6 10 ай бұрын

why does it seem like sometimes uThermal plays less skilled players than I face even though im like high plat / low diamond?

@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 ай бұрын

It's really easy to misjudge comparative skill levels?

@ViralHiveTV 10 ай бұрын

It is fun watching those games but i bet its not fun for the enemy players you are facing.I can imagine the frustration of having to play against top tier player while you are just at 4k mmr.Limiting yourself doesn't make it that much easier for them.I played a lot of dota and oh boy i can tell you everyone hates smurfs in their guts.Maybe its different for SC2,but i actually feel sorry for those that have to face you while you are early in the challenges.

@Necrocidal 10 ай бұрын

If fans want you to play on a barcode, and you don't want to, why not meet in the middle and name an account "barcode" ?

@wee017 10 ай бұрын

6k MMR player going against diamonds in the ladder when they get countered: "they must know who I am or be a map hacker"

@enriquegarciacota3914 10 ай бұрын

Is he 6k on Zerg?

@ViralHiveTV 10 ай бұрын

@@enriquegarciacota3914 Mby he is not that much on zerg but his game sense is.Also he is facing 4k players,i actually felt bad for his enemy in this vid.Second game the guy wasn't even dodging the biles.