This Mechanic Will BREAK The Game - War Thunder

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

It's amazing how after the Q&A they still add stuff like this

[@darugdawg2453]

not stupid. this is how gps bomb works

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

@@darugdawg2453 They are plenty of thing in real life that work in certain ways that should not be added to the game

[@IdamDwiAditya]

It would be better if they add this, but ommit the ability to switch into ground map view

[@wtuwotl]

I have big issues with eyes. Looking through aiming pod is painful for me. By having such thing it will make gaming for me bring less issued. So it should be added. But to counter it they can add squadron long range AA. Cost also shouldn't be increased if they are good AA.

[@Petkopanchov]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian so not sitting in one spot is hard... damn... I guess useing your brains is a forgotten concept these days

[@PiPi00001]

acknowledging an existing problem while also knowingly breaking the game more is such a classic gaijin moment

[@Ak8r12]

we need more top tier spaa. thats a fact.

[@ruan21101]

what we need is multiple patriot and s300/400 sites so the air need to take it out first

[@Optimaloptimus]

@@ruan21101Gaijin is planning on adding these for player control actually.

[@ruan21101]

@@Optimaloptimus As in usable equipment? Because if that is the case I don't think that is a good idea. It should be like base defense in air rb but in a way that actually works.

[@BlackWolf9988]

​@@Optimaloptimus how is a player gonna control like 3 vehicles at once?

[@ronansgonah8o947]

Same way we do right now​@@BlackWolf9988

[@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus1790]

spaa isnt built to deal with super sonic jets that hide behind mountains and treelines.

[@BulletRain100]

SPAA were built to deal with those planes. The problem in War Thunder is that those planes have near perfect vision and can pull crazy maneuvers that no pilot could ever consistently do in real life.

[@jb7483]

You have no idea of the real world kiddo

[@therealavenger3537]

​@@BulletRain100 it's way worse irl

[@hartsymk1]

11.7 spaa is now vs 14.0 jets... Apparently that's perfectly ok

[@crazeelazee7524]

@@BulletRain100 The SPAA we have in game were built to deal with the few things that managed to get past Patriots, S-300 etc. That's why countries like the US almost completely gave up on the idea of integrating SPAA into armored units at one point.

[@rodrigoespinoza8468]

At this point I'm unironically enjoying ground AB (in top tier) since everyone is already fast and stabilised and you only get like a minute for CAS, and everyone in the match gets warned.

[@Apqtheia]

yea but you have to wait 10 minutes to play

[@ballsex111]

the thing that makes top tier GAB better is that the cas usually only gets regular bombs on a random fuse so you actually have time to react

[@BedCat1432]

​@Apqtheia I'd rather wait 10 minutes than play with this shit also...just the cas spam that is top teir rb anyways :/

[@charch458]

I wanna see large sam systems implemented somehow. Or just cheaper air to air loadouts if they are so against increasing the spawn cost. Lower it for the guy with 8 arh but not the guy with 8 glide bombs

[@lucasmoreno2154]

Imma be honest, how the hell people thought this was a good idea? Like, does it even make sense do add it? We already knew that GRB is just ARB with extra steps, but this is just bullsh1t.

[@AntiCranium]

It's not a good idea it's a great idea lol

[@vivekrangan6759]

This is bullshit need a ground only mode ffs

[@shawhavy]

Nah

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

@@vivekrangan6759 you're absolutely hopeless go play world of tanks kid.

[@jb7483]

Lol no it will never happen

[@vivekrangan6759]

@jb7483 I can hope tho 😭

[@darkdividegaming6547]

I’d say we need a Ground only mode, an actual helicopter mode, bomber only mode/ more/better PVE modes. agreed?

[@letto18]

2:07 looking at the wiki, lowest RB BR (not sure if Air RB or Ground RB) for CCRP would be the A21A-3 at 4.3 with a single 600 kg bomb being it's biggest bomb load, next highest would be the F-84B-26 at 7.0 with 2x1000 lb bombs being biggest bomb load then it starts becoming more common at around 8.3+ with multiple nations having the F-84F for example that could carry 2x2000 lb & 2x1000 lb bombs.

[@nphong6723]

At this point, the only way for gaijin to balance grb against cas is reducing sp of air crafts with only aa loadouts so that they are equal to ground aa systems if they just want jet in grb

[@quartzlandaker5664]

Definitely only charging the price of a medium or heavy tank for a plane with non AP belts and air to air missiles would be reasonable

[@leopardo830]

Not a bad idea. SPAA rewards should also be better. Getting rewards for intercepting AGMS and potentially saving an ally should be rewarded

[@Raj-df7wf]

There should also be a result point at the spawn so there’s a safe place to reload

[@Phil451]

Everyone should be spawning into some sort of ground combat capable vehicle to start the game. This is not a good idea.

[@MT11222]

You know there there is something called CANNON that can do CAS super effective, right?

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

So drone spotting with a CAS aircraft will annihilate any SPAA in spawn without any hope of counter play, outside shooting the bombs flying on them from outside their maximum range

[@darugdawg2453]

spawn a fighter

[@makarevych]

The beatings will continue until gaijin adds multi vehicle AA

[@redtsar]

​@darugdawg2453 what's the point of SPAA then? Not to mention not everyone might die with enough SP to get in a fighter to try and deal with CAS aircraft

[@swordsman1_messer]

@@redtsarmost don’t even carry a second vehicle let alone use a backup from personal experience. There’s working with the hand you’ve been dealt, and then there’s what I keep seeing in these comment sections and in various games (not just War Thunder); people not making attempts to find solutions. People not trying.

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

Most sh*tters that shouldnt be playing top tier yet still do.​@@swordsman1_messer

[@DirectorX59]

For air sim I have been longing for functions like this for ever! Instead of tapping through 20 targets looking for which is which, this makes identifying places much easier. But if this makes cas much more potent, there should be some limitations regarding ground battles. At least until good AA gets introduced on all nations.

[@fdenrico9861]

True, as a Air SB player, grinding F-111 is pain because it dont have modern HUD, and it also don't work as a target marker as well (like on the Squadron Su-22) but only works as a bomb release timer, so you dont even know if you're heading to the correct target, and the timer will still count down lol

[@hartsymk1]

Busted af, i called the cas problem out years ago when they f**ked up the missile handling! It's only gotten worse and this is the cherry on the top. This has allowed cas to fully translate into the point and click adventure.

[@Tremeslay]

We need ground only mode asap. As if its not fucked up already, they are still fucking up the ground mode continuisly...

[@jb7483]

It will never happen

[@Yea.IGetHectic]

@@jb7483 you just go around being negative on everyone's comments?

[@Nicolas-zw5ex]

Waah

[@Yea.IGetHectic]

@@Nicolas-zw5ex Really helping the conversation...

[@Nicolas-zw5ex]

@@Yea.IGetHectic If aircraft get removed from ground battles there will be a huge part of the playerbase that will complain even worse saying war thunder would be way even more unrealistic

[@Ballistics_Computer]

Air players will continue to vehemently deny a ground only mode ever happening as always, heads buried in the ground and refusing to acknowledge anything wrong with them being the most absurd faction within the game.

[@Ballistics_Computer]

"War thunder was originally a plane game" being one of my favorite nonsensical arguments. Like yeah? And they added about 4 more classes of vehicle since then, old ass mfs

[@mclovin-sc7vj]

go play enlisted then

[@Ballistics_Computer]

"Planes having a plane only mode isn't a valid argument" says who? What sets planes above the other modes? And don't make me laugh with the "we're the reason you guys don't get camped to death." I've done fine on my own hundreds of times without any air on my team despite getting camped. And when there are planes up, they don't kill the campers anyway, so that's another one scratched off the list.

[@Ballistics_Computer]

@@mclovin-sc7vj I'd rather sever my left hand than touch a game even more profoundly broken than the one I'm currently complaining about. The solution to such an easily fixable problem shouldn't just be to play another game, especially when war thunder absolutely could implement it. As evidenced by, oh you know, the fact that planes only fight other planes. It's through pure negligence that tanks don't have a similar arrangement.

[@Ballistics_Computer]

To add to a point I've already made here, I have played out an innumerable amount of matches which never had a single plane up. It was, at one time, more common than one might initially expect. Of course those days are all but over now, and the quality of gameplay has notably declined greatly since then. I won't pretend it's all the planes' fault, there have been plenty of catastrophic additions to ground since those days, but planes are a significant factor. Especially since map design hasn't improved even a little bit. I think a fun idea would be to add some subterranean maps, like salt mines or something. Would add a bit of variety and an escape for tanks from their airborne persecutors without getting their knickers in a twist, since their bells are so easily rung.

[@ConspicousFaux]

Brimstones may potentially be good now 🙏

[@shagal2142]

May? they will OBLITERATE!!! everything when you fly the Eurofighter. That thing can carry 18 of them, you fire them of straight of the start and within the last 5 seconds you pop up laser the enemy and they cant even react.

[@ConspicousFaux]

@@shagal2142 I know, I have been doing that with the tornado. Its the only real way you can use them.

[@solbrainbraver]

The only thing they can do is put the GRB aircraft on cockpit like in Enlisted

[@GRRRPOWPOW]

I like how he thinks it's the only option

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

They should add much more rewards for aircraft destroyed in GRB to encourage more SPAA and antiCAS players too.

[@SevenSeiben]

Increasing the rewards for spaa and air kills in ground needs to happen because right now getting like 5 air kills is worth less than one ground kill as far as mission score.

[@dingalingdstryer2983]

I think just maybe add the feature to aircraft only if they carry a targeting pod? Anyway saw I killed you at 4:52 lol, I never realized I was in your match. Was trying to grind Swedan I think. Anyways love the videos and streams, Thanks a ton.

[@swordsman1_messer]

I approve of this because it does give other nations a fighting chance to fight back against Pantsirs. I disapprove because we all know Russian CAS spammers are also going to abuse the hell out of this. Conclusion; remove Pantsirs and Kh-38s, add more variations of the Tor to top tier Russia.

[@sammyhayden]

The Pantsir the only thing competitive enough to deal with the more modern aircraft being added.

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

Lmfao you usa main never cease to amaze me. Unhappy another nation has an advantage and is not broken. You ignore your own broken planes for air and ground realistic you ignore your own broken aa. Usa maind never changed you always blame Russia for your own crappy skill level and then demand devs nerf Russia to shit. Bc you psychos believe you to be better than you really are. Pity the us main losers like you

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

​@@sammyhaydenhe's an emotional child that thinks they should nerf Russia because he thinks he should be winning easily. It's a bunch of whiny kids that don't understand games at all. They just feel like they deserve to win every game. Ya know like a child does

[@t0k4m4k7]

Just cap the max br of planes in RB

[@swordsman1_messer]

I disagree. Maverick equivalents only have an effective range of 8km between energy potential and the lousy seeker computer finding the target you want. If the 2S6 isn’t competitive, why hasn’t the Tor been given to Russia? It has a bit more range than other nation’s SPAA without having the absurd range of the Pantsir? There’s hard limits on what can be added to non-Russian nations for SPAA because their air defense doctrine is air supremacy. Which doesn’t work with spawn costs for dedicated AA fighters in Ground RB. To me, the simplest solution is to just remove the Kh-38 and the Pantsir, give variations of the Tor to Russia, then as we get more vehicles in place for other nations that can actually match the performance of these two, we can introduce them back.

[@oakgame1921]

Even without a locked marker on the map, we can still click on a marker to display it on the screen. The downside is that you need to face the target.

[@Brandon-gx7zo]

Will this work for some of the SPG's? Some long range artillery would be pretty cool

[@bearman1226]

TBH maps in ground battles are to small for artillery, it would be nice tho

[@hotrodgreg504]

Gayjin: cas isnt powerfull enough in ground battles. We need to wargame it.

[@matthenden5109]

im hoping that if they introduce systems like the patriot or s400 hopefully they are accessable to everyone like drones in top tier or otherwise you will only have 2-3 people per team in a match using them.

[@TallyPatka-dz2cz]

A s400 and pattriot attery is massive, they will have to cut off a lot of the extra parts for them to even fit in a map. E.g the s400 battery has a 25m tall radar to search higher

[@matthenden5109]

@@TallyPatka-dz2cz Yeah i really dont know how gajin will implement it properly, on most small city maps theres no way they would fit so they could maybe let them spawn outside the tank map however if the spawns are set then cas could remember the spaa spawn spots and just drop gps bombs on them.

[@STGN01]

Completely agree, this feature is going to make planes able to bomb through clouds easily. I think gaijin should increase the load out options of individual weapons so they would be associated with the number of ordinance instead of the category so you could choose to bring 1 smart bomb and 1 AGM ex and the rest be dumb bombs and rockets with each weapon, so you could choose to bring a lighter load out for lower spawn cost. And then progressively increase the cost for more smart-weapons. That way you could still get to use them, but you would have to be selective instead of just being able to take out the whole enemy team in one pass. Another solution could be to add it but not show the game markers on the close-up map for aircraft, so you would still be able to set a bombing point using your INS but not have the target info conveyed on the big map. IMO they should also make the drone and squad marker less accurate to the level of the spotting mechanic.

[@Sky_King7]

100% agree... top tier GROUND rb should be named ground-ISH rb..... aircrafts SP needs to be raised significantly.

[@hi-Larry-ous]

Ground "targets" RB

[@kubanamaxa4677]

Only thing it changes is fact that people don't need to now EXACTLY where spawns are. You could mark the spawns with designator by looking on the place where you want to designate and pressing the key bind. Its shrimple as that, now its simplier

[@PvtPartzz]

Returning Enduring Confrontation to air rb could easily take 80% of the CAS players away from ground rb

[@nameplaceholder4895]

Imagine looking at the state of CAS and thinking, "Yeah we need to add another feature to benefit them with no negative aspect to it" .... Gaijin, never change

[@Gibbo263]

All markers should be reset if you spawn in a plane, your flight time should be limited (same as it is in AB) you cannot land and rearm

[@baykazdal]

It's not even that big of a deal, i believe this is being hyped way beyond of how effective it actually will be

[@aimesblack]

i saw how a guy uses this with the missiles on the eurofighter you can just let them fly too your target point wile flying low and then pop up seconds before they land to do final guidance its crazy

[@yuanfurbax]

Yeah not even Patriot/S-400 systems can beat this mechanic...

[@AxlePlaysGames]

I've wanted this mechanic for quite a while, but I didn't realise how broken it would be

[@hipstr5615]

So you want to spend ≈ 1000 SP to be countered by 80sp pantsir?

[@quartzlandaker5664]

This is my problem with increasing SP too

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

There are 10 nations in the game

[@hipstr5615]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian CAS should be stronger than tanks, that’s the point of plying good and farming SP. meanwhile anybody can take spaa to counter planes just for 70-80sp. I have a few options how we can balance planes in tank battles: 1. limiting planes to 2/team or making so you can spawn in plane 1 minute after another player spawns in. 2. Increasing spawn points for both spaa and planes 3 making so planes can’t go further than 30km from tank battles (adding patriot or s300 systems to cover areas beyond 30km) they won’t shoot immediately, but 20 sec timer will appear. This is very radical though

[@kermie3078]

@@hipstr5615I like increasing both as it would also limit people using AA for killing tanks

[@CobarGG]

Yeah, now do it against an actual players. Flying jet is 10 times harder then sitting behind a rock in a tank or picking pantsir after you just died twice without landing a single shot.

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Sounds like you have a skill issue

[@CobarGG]

​@@TheEuropeanCanadian said the person who complains about 900 sp jets receiving their base functions in a game where they can face 8x S1s in 1km2 map. Gaijin already did alot to protect people like you from aviation. Learn to fly by yourself or keep being a good target and eating mavericks quietly.

[@Aph1de]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian SPAA players who complain about this feature never touched WASD in their lives, also they are oddly quiet about top tier Russia's air dominance, I wonder why

[@Ben_Kimber]

I get that CAS frustrates people, but I’ve accepted it as part of the game. Getting killed by CAS doesn’t annoy me any more than getting killed by a tank.

[@BluberryDanish]

The addition isn't very smart but i don't think increasing sp is the full answer either. Helicopters have been an issue since they got long range air to ground ordinance. There would have to be some sort of feature that would prevent helis from sitting miles away behind a mountain only to pop out, launch a missile, and hide again. Perhaps there can be an addition that makes you spotted if you aren't moving much in an area for too long. Long range air to ground ordinance from aircraft is something very new and would be even harder to balance considering the ranges you can successfully hit targets at. The answer might literally be to add stronger aa.

[@PvtPartzz]

Their (in)actions regarding ground/air balance makes perfect sense when you look at their monetization practices. They’re going to frustrate all the ground players they can and then release premium anti-air systems. I guarantee it.

[@Hans_Manno]

CAS and AA are too strong at the moment. An easy fix would be lower spawn costs for Fighter aircraft with negative spawn cost (even less than just the fighter) for air belts. AA is annihilating tanks at the ground for 70SP while CAS with guided ordnance is annihilating ground as well before getting clapped by AA. Air to Air Fighters should be way cheaper, ground AA should be more expensive, since it’s too easy to clap tanks (with some exceptions) and airplanes with impossible to dodge missiles. At the same time CAS should pay extra for guided ordnance since this is the unbalanced problem. Sry if my thoughts are a little confusing it’s hard for me to explain my thoughts in English.

[@CarolusR3x]

Now people hopefully will start to understand why high tier vehicles had high repair costs back in the day.

[@bruce_invincible]

Spot on. 100% agreed. I hope Snail sees the issue and finally fixes it with proper balance

[@thesauceguy1809]

Just allow aircraft to look at the ground vehicle map without having all of the targeting abilities. These targeting mechanics could be implemented to some degree, but the game isn't ready for them right now. The maps all being fairly small doesn't help either.

[@armabearo]

Using peoples marks for bombing targets and bombing points while being capped has always been a problem man. This just makes it slightly easier. Getting rid of the feature won't fix cas players doing that

[@lfotzblitz7436]

So scouting will become even more powerful now, as well.

[@LouisCauchy2]

Gaijin promised new top tier SPAA for NATO countries in 2025. But it doesn't mean they should ruin GRB with CAS dominance even more for the last days of 2024....

[@MeNamesPoshOpossum]

NATO basically can’t get better SPAA, they’d have to move up to SAM’s for anti-air, but ultimately, the best counter rn is anti air loadout jets

[@123TheCloop]

i get wanting realism but yeah this mechanic alone is going to make ranged kills far easier, gaijin do not realise that CAS will get stronger and even when you add stuff like patriot systems, these can still be defeated with the current munitions available in game. I knew this day was coming when they first introduced GBUs and then TGP with thermals etc. at least with DCS and doing similar stuff there is more in-between moments to set up the TGP and SPI when trying to target ground units. gaijin have made what should be a several step process be a 1 step process that thanks to the 3rd person element of WT makes seeing SPI markers (red box) so much easier to gauge where you are looking

[@moerksters0339]

If we are addressing this problem, we must also address the S1 that can snipe air spawns. I don't even find it worth it to bring an aircraft in a while playing any nation other than Russia

[@CinderFox98]

I understand people like using planes in Ground RB but the fact someone can scout 1 enemy, get the assist, die and return to hit space bar repeatedly and get 5+ tank kills just doesn't sit well with me. As someone who's primarily a tanker in WT, it sucks to be dominating with my tank knowledge only to have some dude die once and carpet bomb my team because they got outplayed in their tank. Maybe I'm in the wrong but I will stand by and die on this hill - CAS is cancerous

[@MrHanner]

Seriously, you guys find it weird that Gaijin adds a mechanic that was only tested during one of the "DEV-Stream" that BVVD does shortly before it goes live-server. As if that hadn't happened before, like for example: drones (garbage that increases the weight of the game on my ssd), recon drones (legal wallhack), scouting (ultra legal wallhack), infinite ammo boxes for the most broken vehicles in the whole game. I MEAN, WT is the free to play that exists by the grace of the holy spirit. BUT HEY at least we have new premium toys for 80 USD, why would we have to complain?.......(SARCASM)

[@a_catfish5180]

Some viewer feedback: I really like your videos covering changes, dev server etc (I.e your main content) I like how it’s chaptered so I can quickly go back and check something and I love how you release the videos quickly One thing I personally don’t like is the more rant-y videos with no real purpose in terms of information I understand it’s your channel and that if you want to speak out about something you will I’m just telling you with no ill intent

[@bradentucker4854]

Love when KZbinrs get genuinely pissed there accents and slang come out

[@TheEliteGamer48]

Gaijin never listens to their own Q&A . Classic bad move by them lol .

[@Bot001SFB]

I really don’t see the issue with this addition… Only thing that I dislike is that your teammates doesn’t get rewards for ‘lazering the target’.

[@ymroo8299]

Its just an over reaction, you still need an accurate data on where the enemy is and assume that the enemy wont move for 20 seonds of that bomb incomming, best fix would be a better air alert from teams ground radar since some AA on team somehow doesnt know how to press the T 6

[@PRBalex19]

Honestly not a bad mechanic. Gives people who don’t play Russia a way to defeat the S1 more effectively. I swear the warthunder community cries about everything.

[@chrise8677]

It's simple. No one is going to buy a 70 to 80 dollar jet if you can't spawn it in till the match is almost over and it gets slapped out of the sky seconds after spawning by AA.

[@danielhultenius5506]

If you buy a fkn plane play planemode?

[@RiflesGunner]

Bro the first part wasn’t even on Optimus I encourage u to do it with all clips of Optimus, u know how an edit

[@DaveyCooter]

This will be a huge QOL improvement in air sim. Trying to find the stupid bases in jungle maps is abysmal.

[@_Addi_]

Honestly, the fact that you can better view the map is a more powerful feature than being able to click target on it. You could already kinda click target by clicking where an enemy was, and then looking at the marker that placed on your hud with the targeting pod. This isnt as big a deal as people are making it out to be. Its one of those things that seems powerful before its added, but then once people actually use it in battles, its far less effective than the guided munitions.

[@nk1952]

I like the new mechanic, they should lower the amount it costs to spawn a plane too.

[@hytrus555]

Maybe a option to participate in only ground vehicles battles without any plane, like we have with nigh battles, the game chooses when is that battle like with nigh battles, simple

[@Lord_Of_Spoon]

it would be funny to start marking random parts of the map

[@ArcticWipeout]

Increase the rewards for downing aircraft, and we need way more advanced spaa in the game. Maybe even raise the spawn cost aswell on top of that.

[@datboibazzle2117]

Like getting bashed by KH-28s wasn't hard enough to deal with already.

[@kermie3078]

Recon drones are way more powerful than this mechanic and nobody talks about them

[@BlackWolf9988]

Is it? I find them incredibly situational since they dont give you any points for scouting.

[@kermie3078]

@ it’s not all about points, you can use it for yourself to seem enemies behind cover. On maps like El Alamein it’s broken

[@LokiV_WT]

drones can be shot down and only used by light tanks. not many people use drones either. this mechanic is incredibly broken because you can yeet guided weapons while being behind a hill

[@kermie3078]

@LokiV_WT I mean drones just aren’t shot down very often, they also can’t get locked by radar and ir missiles don’t always work. What this really boils down to is that this new mechanic will not “break the game”. CAS is already overpowered, this is like a 1% at most increase in power. This mechanic will change nothing, people just love to complain

[@LokiV_WT]

@@kermie3078 this mechanic changes a lot actually, you can now do things like yeeting brimstones at the enemy spawn and then popping up last second to whack anything there. Or throw any form of bomb while being nowhere near the map and being behind complete cover. this feature will be useful for lower tier, but at top tier with the size of maps rn this feature is completely broken

[@MrEsphoenix]

Wait, did they buff the Brimstone? Because I can't see how this feature helps it at all unless they've changed how it works.

[@prancer8934]

Top tier meta tanks are gonna be a laser pointer on a roomba

[@keno5839]

if you get bombed from 20km away by a guy using only his map to choose a target area they kinda earned that kill plus su34 can already kill you outside out AA range with way less effort so this is not even remotely that strong

[@alexanderfrazier8840]

I think it’s about time this feature got added honestly.

[@brentbotha9351]

Actually gaijin is so smart Make top tier unplayable cause of the no skill button pressers flying around. And than they can add some broken SPAA that can target beyond 500 km, for 100$ each

[@JoshMorley-vw9ib]

I get what your saying, but you could already just set the target point on the battlefield already when in third person, like its not all too different.

[@goliath3413]

but TEC, thats how GPS works. You set a point before you reach it without visual contact.

[@vitoscaleta439]

Doesn’t matter air is already op

[@Somerandofurry]

@@vitoscaleta439Jut go to lower tier where there isn’t this feature presumably

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Just because something works a certain way in real life does not mean it should be fully replicated like that in the game. Especially when it is not everything that has this standard. If we limit people to be stuck in their cockpit, no access to a map overlay and also many other factors designed for ease of use, then may be we can start with this realism argument, but it is not the case.

[@JollyGreenJames42]

This feature should be limited to Air RB for bombing bases, enemy fortifications, or other strategic targets. When I first saw this feature, I immediately thought about JDAMs since this is really how they work in real life. They have a pre designated target point for release and that’s about all you have to do for the bombs. Being able to update target info while flying is insane. This gives so much more power than this feature should really have.

[@goliath3413]

​@@TheEuropeanCanadian The only real nerf would be to make it so that you have to input manual commands of a geolocation but its just the way things are. I understands its not balanced but its also pushing towards the realism limit. If they don't do this now, when will they do it? GPS is wallhacks IRL too so its never going to be balanced. Would you rather they never add this feature? If so, when will it ever improve? Are we just going to be stuck in the current state of the game for the rest of history? My argument is that: This update (and maybe a couple after) will create a problem. Because of the problem gaijin will give a solution (better spaa for all nations). And thus we will move the line forward in realism while also adding new possibilities.

[@abhinavchandra8314]

It’s worse than this because you can designate a point and toss bomb over the mountains using CCRP and the SPAA will have no choice to shoot at you

[@fdenrico9861]

isn't that the tactic that Heli pilot use in Ukraine-Russian war? select a coordinate of a known defensive position, fly low and fast, and then climb & shoot all of their missiles, pop CM's and fly back to base

[@goliath3413]

This is literally a tactic used IRL on both planes and helicopters and with rockets and bombs. The whole point of AH64D is to do this and the reason why it isn't added in game properly.

[@anonimosu7425]

everyone keeps arguing about warthunder being originally a ww2 game but no one is arguing about warthunder being originally a plane game 😔

[@joaopinto5850]

The map view I actually find it quite a good addition, however, what the hell were they thinking by adding the marker?

[@CounterCraftYT]

Another greate addition to Air RB Thunder …

[@garysharman3981]

I’m surprised the content developers don’t realise this

[@MarkDrisch]

this is one of the best mechanics being added. But I only play air RB so... Increasing spawn costs for CAS in ground RB makes sense to me, complaining that they're adding fun, cool weaponry to aircraft which were designed to strike ground targets, does not. We need a game mode where ground pounders can stretch their legs. It doesn't have to be against player controlled vehicles. I honestly think that, in conjunction with the aforementioned spawn cost adjustments would take a lot of the demand off of ground RB mode.

[@fdenrico9861]

agree, imo the only fix they could add is to increase the SP cost of GPS/Laser-Guided Bombs, dumb bomb should be fine to stay because well, they're dumb and inaccurate (i know ccrp exist, but it won't be 100% precise like the GPS bomb)

[@Viper-zv2ww5ty1f]

They need to remove it from ground, not air and SIM

[@FuriousDave]

Simple. Add a ground only mode to the selection. Problem solved.

[@PappaFury]

War thunder has been broken for years, I uninstalled it a while ago

[@valentintudor866]

doesn.t change too much , would have been op if an ally can realtime designate a target with a drone or somnething , being able to ping something on the map and throw a bomb there doens.t change shit ladies

[@fn8382]

It broke when they included radars in ground battle

[@CoMBATicu5]

So France is about to get very strong if this comes to the game. We get a new LT and that works perfectly with the alpha jet and the f100d. CCRP is about to be so OP. And honestly regardless if this makes my nation stronger, I dont want this AT ALL!!!

[@lofis07a]

Is it considered trolling if i mark friendlies?

[@scyobiempire4450]

they should make this only free for recon vehicles, like armoured cars or some light tanks a MBT would not have the realistic capability to coordinate with CAS but something like an artillery spotter probably could with some simplifying his radios work

[@genaraloffire]

i think i ground only game mode could work but it is most likely not going to be added. what needs to be changed is how aircraft and maps are balanced because cas is blatantly op and super easy to get in game. especially when playing against russia.

[@LvneS2]

i would kinda understand if it had a cooldown, but like this??? what was gaijin thinking?

[@flum91]

They make toptier ground RB less and less attractive. I stopped playing toptier months ago and wont be coming back anytime soon.

[@jb7483]

No one cares how many times people say this.

[@brettr4208]

I doubt it will be implemented for all vehicles and as long as you need to maintain a line of sight to the target I don't think it will be that bad

[@MythicFrost]

Just add proper layered Anti-Air that is outside player control but then It might require ECM existence in game!

[@mlgrocket]

the marker will be really useful in air sim, trying to find the convoys and ground battles is sometimes a pain due to the vehicles sinking into the ground. but why tf is it available in ground battles? you can't acknowledge a problem and then make the problem worse. unless you're a drug addi- actually you know what? it all makes sense now.

[@TormentedPenguin]

Air to air weapons should be little sp cost while air to ground ones should end up costing a lot (in GRB. In ARB is should be swapped).. might allow CAP to fight to clear the ground for CAS which is what would happen in real life anyways.. the other issue is that in Real life you have long range SAMs to deal with.. not just SHORAD which is why planes and helos can climb to get a good view of the field and launch all these weapons.

[@intensegamerrage]

2:58 it's a problem past like 2.0. Even my 4.0-8.3 games are infuriating because of CAS spam and revenge bombing

[@frost-cm2qn]

Gaijin could double the sp cost of planes and the game would be 100% better

[@redtsar]

Once again, thank God I don't touch top tier

[@Jason-jb1vs]

SPAA should recieve data link from other SPAA

[@harka1996]

What is that camo fo yak?

[@mrimdumb4537]

I think this makes sense for the game being realistic, shows how powerful planes are in real life... However this is a game and planes in ground battles is good already, this just makes the gameplay for tanks worse and not fun.