This Monitor Gives You Cheats

[@knee-chan6970]

so the whole "he just have a better gaming chair" is slowly becoming a thing a now

[@cheshirest9067]

Soon chairs will have GenAI to adjust your posture depending on the current situation on the match

[@madnessman1520]

​@@cheshirest9067i would love to see that. For one it helps with posture of course but you will also see people like xqc sitting with his feet up on the desk getting launched out of his chair

[@JMScibra]

Wait until it becomes a suite with AI headphones that make sound cues to alert you to these AI predicted outlines (maybe even an equip sound of their weapon to give info). "He just has a really good headset"

[@yrga7195]

@@cheshirest9067 my self processing Secret Labs AI gaming chair is gonna hold my head and plant it as near to the screen as possible in order to help me focus with a 10% increase in performance

[@REDEYEWHO]

Dont exaggerate please, better gaming chair would be the final boss of this situation, luckily its just about a better monitor for now.

[@solanumtuberosa]

This is basically doping in esports

[@Excentrix54]

That's a perfect way to put it

[@pennydime4562]

funny thing is half the players are already dopping

[@aninnocent1544]

except you can just provide normal monitors on LAN so the big events will be normal anyways

[@James-pb8xu]

This destroys the experience for regular players, which is the core of the game.​@aninnocent1544

[@HLVEYT]

It’s seemingly worse.

[@overtale4516]

Game awareness is a skill. There's a third-party program that gives you a heads up on when someone buys what item even inside fog of war. That's a maphack technically

[@johnaldrinco23]

are the summoner spells cooldown tracker i see from streamers also a cheat?

[@overtale4516]

@@johnaldrinco23 unless it tracks smite from fog of war, no it's not. Those are just timers that you set for spells that you are aware of Spell trackers that I know are manual, so you have to set it by yourself. It just gives a rough estimate of the CD on a summ spell so that you can play around that

[@pinnacleexpress420]

"game awareness is a skill" "oh nah, porofessor isnt cheating. it just gives you a 'rough estimate' of the CD of their spells so you dont have to be aware of the CD yourself!" lmfao. this ai monitor pulls no info from fog. its literally just as cheating as porofessor. also aint ever heard of that item buy checker, and dont believe you that its real.@@overtale4516

[@LuckyGnom]

@@johnaldrinco23 Technically they give you unfair advantage, but not really. The thing is that you can time summoners and camp re-spawn timers in chat or in your head or in a notepad (yep, that's what Korean pros did 10+ years ago). Plus, Riot themselves give you these timers on Chinese servers, for example. So, these timers just make timing things more convenient, rather than giving you info that you can't get otherwise.

[@RossWasTaken]

​@@LuckyGnom It's still pretty annoying though if you're not willing to download those programs, since it's just a click of the button for them, whereas I have to manually type the timer and go back and remove them when they're back up. Not a big deal though, I don't feel like they should be banned, I just wish they didn't exist lol

[@TiboFPS]

All tournaments will just need to add a rule stating "no part of any machine may use generative features"

[@archlorddestin]

That's fine for pro play, but for regular ladder?

[@modern5387]

But how do you detect that in an online setting?

[@overtale4516]

​​@@modern5387 In what online setting? If it's a pro scene, pros are required to use the hardware provided by the tournament minus peripherals like mouse and keyboards. But that's for LAN tourneys. But for casuals? Riot has to implement a kernel system anticheat to counter this but look at Vanguard and see how that turned out.

[@lester4532]

@@modern5387 when Riot was playing their domestic leagues in the COVID era there's a Riot Referee in the team house whenever a team had a match day

[@adventuretuna]

@@modern5387install kernel-level malware like riot does

[@parezd]

10 years later... "Story of a monitor that ENDED competetive gaming"

[@Swimmingpoolinaswimmingpool]

You mean improved?

[@egrolol6620]

@@Swimmingpoolinaswimmingpool No, ended.

[@marcinchreptowicz6843]

You know that they can ban that monitor and there is no mention of it anymore?

[@sw33p3rLeet]

@@marcinchreptowicz6843 I can spoof my monitor EDID into being some other monitor as far as my PC is concerned. how can you then detect me using this monitor? you cant. see the problem?

[@sw33p3rLeet]

@@marcinchreptowicz6843 Also sorry for the spam, but also there is nothing stopping someone with this monitor from just training their own AI and then replace MSI's AI wth their own, more "powerfull" AI. I see so many issues with this its kind of concerning. As MSI themselves said in the video, the possibilities are endless.

[@7SeasSecurity]

Kinda scary tbh. This is just its early stages too. Imagine playing a fighting game and the GenAI analyzes both yours and your opponent's habits and starts prompting you in realtime how to adapt. "Your opponent reacted to your dash attack 8 times in that last match with shield > shine oos. Try mixing up with xyz." Insane

[@bopqw1055]

theres the minimal input then. itll only really help bottom ranking players.

[@Problemsun]

@@bopqw1055 actual braindead take. midset coaching is banned in pro play for a reason. bro is talking about a future with AI-based coaching not just midset but midgame

[@bopqw1055]

@@Problemsunexcept 2 things,1 it takes a high mid ranked player to be able to actively adapt mid set let alone mid match to what someone else is saying. 2 this would most definitely be banned/penilized at any pro play tournament the same way.

[@khaihensem6249]

Tekken 8 already have this😅

[@GrugGaming]

Nah, just get gud. It will only handicap players who uses it & would reduce their overall skill overtime the more they use it. Look at cheaters in any game that they play, their general skill drops with basic usage of wallhacks over time, if they had any skill in the game previously.

[@wilbo_baggins]

This is totally whats needed. Official companies selling cheats. Can't wait till logitech sells an ai that locks your mouse to your opponents head in fps.

[@adsdads3990]

Well there was arduino hack that the software just scan your display and then the arduino send a mouse movement signal to lock the head like aim assist. But you know , riot vanguard are banning you when you plugged arduino when the game open now lmao, imagine banned when plugging mouse

[@lucasvasquez7762]

Logitech mouse script already exist xdddd

[@adsdads3990]

@@lucasvasquez7762 its shit tho logitech script are running on the software, the actual mouse didnt have enough on board memory. When your ghub are not responding probably your script gonna run it down even you already unplug the mouse Bloody mouse are better

[@ClaudioProductionsX]

this can stand grounds for a lawsuit and control this with a regulation. Companies have already sued cheat-makers in the past, and by how much advantage this give, game company can, and likely collectively will throw a lawsuit against MSI because their hardware is designed to cheat on their game. Likely in the same way self-driving cars are regulated., because they can drive alone, but per law someone must still be on the wheel.

[@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd]

I Setup a macro on logi software to click as fast as possible so i can get pistol kills in Battlebit, but now im using a superlight and dont have mouse buttons for the macro

[@Sturmjager]

This would be wild in Tekken (and other FGCs). - Info on screen telling you the frame data. No more knowledge checks! - Prompt to either keep blocking, duck or punish. - Prompts telling you how to break a throw like a QTE - Info about spacing - Data summary about opponent habits between rounds or sets.

[@adrianmagtoto9775]

Your screen is going to be looking wild with that if you play fast fighting games such as DBFz or UMvC3. It might even be detrimental looking at those info, you get touched by someone like Vergil or Zero you are toast, but for slower games like Street Fighter or Tekken, definitely useful

[@Sturmjager]

@@adrianmagtoto9775 you could definitely simplify the HUD if you wanted. Like changing your opponent's color or hiding their ability effects to make everything more readable.

[@dhighruler]

@@adrianmagtoto9775 Why would you even need cheats for DBFZ or UMvC3, those games were made for children

[@lalaldka]

@@Sturmjager wouldn't hiding ability effects be a bit too far, it would also probably set your monitor a frame or two behind because it needs to filter it out first

[@Sturmjager]

@@lalaldka ability effects always look the same. Once the first frame of the animation comes out, the rest of the animation can be predicted and suppressed.

[@ZeroAbsolute21]

11:56 " we dont recommend cheating ", proceed to make an ai monitor that actually cheats and gives a dumb excuse as to why it isnt cheating. great job msi....ty for making the world a worst place for cheaters because of corpa money. also good luck getting your monitors into the e-sports scenes

[@fltfathin]

" we dont recommend cheating " but buy this, this is debatable

[@saloscontent]

idc about esport even i care about everyone that plays the game it shouldnt be allowed at all esport or not

[@SSXVegeta]

Well by the commonly practiced standard. It's not cheating. You either have to admit that gathering and consolidating information is an advantage, cheating, and shouldn't be allowed. Or you get things like this where they go "well the company is allowing all their streamers and pros to use programs to automatically gather and consolidate information, giving them an advantage, so here is another"

[@burdenking]

10 yrs from now: "Should brain chip implants be banned in esports?"

[@antman8845]

"We don't recommend cheating on this." Well that's reassuring, we're all good.

[@SaSo-mk6yh]

I forgive them

[@mattelmquist4473]

For anyone who doesn’t play league, basically anyone below the top 1% of players is REALLY bad at looking at their minimap, people don’t notice things happening instantly like this, and would be a massive boost to players below diamond who haven’t built up a habit of glancing at map between every action they take

[@SSXVegeta]

And by the standard, shouldn't be considered cheating. Since a ton of pros and company sponsored streamers already actively use programs for the same things

[@gecgoodpasi1654]

@@SSXVegeta its also impossible to detect so it doesnt rly matter even a kernel level anticheat cant check ur screen for AI that analyses ur screen footage it doesnt just stop at giving awareness for minimap too technically AI could analyze the entire match and give u usefull information on how to manipulate wave states, jgl timers or showing u enemy ability cooldowns in real time.

[@carldeala2010]

For now it's just pinging locations, next it will be tracking ult and spell cooldowns and notifying if an enemy is seen on an objective

[@pinnacleexpress420]

oh you mean like porofessor? yeah wow that sounds like cheating! haha!

[@BanditLeader]

@@pinnacleexpress420porofessor doesnt track all that data. but it does give some useful information that a normal player wouldnt have unless they mentally tracked it, like jungle camp times for ALL camps. the (un)fortunate thing is that riot games has officially approved of the use of porofessor

[@ubfrijmi8ccsa8]

there's already a third party app with that man

[@carldeala2010]

@@pinnacleexpress420 yeah doesn't alert you if an enemy is seen nearby an objective though

[@carldeala2010]

@@ubfrijmi8ccsa8 you don't need a third party app if it's already on the monitor. imagine bringing a monitor as a peripheral in a pro match.

[@taunopaavo321]

NA finally got the handicap they need to succeed

[@icomplicity4054]

😭😭

[@flykz255]

Ahh man. Ur right

[@TheGruSed]

Auch

[@stevK7]

Bro I hate when people make fun of NA, there are literally 6 regions. So just because NA is the best all the EU kids gotta cope. Btw I am not defending NA most NA teams are booty

[@JTQ_CS]

​@@stevK7 what do you mean NA is the best region. All your players suck hahaha. NA is just above china in terms of skill❤

[@grandmoffrex]

It’s a monitor built for cheaters by cheaters

[@SylvieTheCuteSylveon]

MSI cheats you out for money for sure 🤣

[@BicheCS]

Completely, MSI just show here they are totally fine with people cheating in games And i won't buy anything from them anymore. Their reputation is done for me

[@Eleganttf2]

@@BicheCS lol cry poor, AI is here to stay

[@Introducez]

@@BicheCS i normally would let my ai reply comments for me , gave u a human one nw tho and its as bad as most human comments

[@northernpolaris9895]

@@BicheCS oh shiver me timbers, their company is going bankrupt now lmaoooo

[@j3ff_k_610]

Basically we are going to have to go back to hardcore style game modes, no mini map, no inclusive options like visual audio cues, no hud...

[@G0LD3NR0D]

@banorZ Certainly not for disabled gamers. The existence of those additional inclusive cues is to make it so that even deaf people can game for example. That's a LOT of bad PR, considering both Sony and Microsoft, two of the giants in the gaming scene both provide adaptive hardware for gamers as an option.

[@G0LD3NR0D]

@banorZ Buddy, having a visual audio cue system doesn't give any competitive advantages, you're suggesting essentially quarantining disabled people instead of actually having assistive technology that doesn't advantage abled players while enabling disabled players to level the playing field. That's, from a pretty objective standpoint, really stupid.

[@TheGarfield1337]

I remember a time where monitors, who could display a small red dot at the center of the screen, were considered cheating in some FPS. Tbf it's still insanely helpful when AWPing in CS

[@SpinningSandwich]

Was just thinking about that, although I'd say scouting is even more OP with the crosshair. Goldeneye speedrunners have done that for years with a little piece of tape on the monitor. Extra lofi.

[@malte54]

It's not broken at all. Everyone knows where the middle of their screen is, but that doesn't change the fact, that no scopes are inaccurate af. There was a time tho (in 1.6 and earlier) where you could abuse these crosshairs when using a bug to make your noscopes way more accurate.

[@GK-st6qm]

If dealing with cheaters wasn't a pain already, now we got big companies like MSI supporting them 😑

[@saloscontent]

yeah thats is mind blowing and faking sad

[@SSXVegeta]

Well they saw that certain types of cheating wasn't considered cheating, so they added a feature lol

[@Joker-rd2fy]

MSI: "its not cheating its just looking at your minimap." Sure man i love kt when im in a 1v1/2v2 and a giant glowing skull tells me im about to get ganked.

[@regularfries3147]

Imagine having gernade line ups on the fly playing cs2 without having to learn the map for hours

[@UnitedGaming420]

Unfortunately that is already a feature in most cheats.

[@CoffeaLight]

Okay they cooking a little too much with this one HAHA

[@shinomora8967]

Monitor gap

[@TheDevilchilly]

monitor diff

[@gizkadasha3989]

monitor issue

[@rallicat69]

"he just has a better monitor"

[@deathsaidhello]

*Reported for monitor abuse*

[@MarcoTheHEXican]

LMAO

[@Zerex227]

This could basically kill the fun competitiveness of the game.

[@SSXVegeta]

Well then it's already been dead. Not like this hasn't been available for free for a long time and most pros use programs that do similar

[@erangilo392]

Since the screen is using the minimap champion borders to detect which ones are enemies, Riot can potentially solve this by making the champion icons on the minimap have a neutral color border instead of red and blue. They could leave it up to the players to remember who are their enemies. In addition to that they should definitely seek legal action as well because this release will hurt their game significantly.

[@stefsot2]

theyll just train a new model and release firmware update, this cant be solved and ruins it for actual players chanigng the colors every patch

[@emelradjo7788]

I have already made a minimap software that does this, changing borders doesnt help. In fact that no one is doing this already is baffling to me. It literally took me 2 days in python.

[@livingkiss]

@@stefsot2 the colors don't matter at all. the AI could easily be trained to recognize who are enemies and allies regardless of the minimap colors borders. in fact, you don't even need AI to do this. just identify which minimap icons are visible on screen at the start of the game. those must be the allies, anything else is an enemy. there's basically no way around this, since an AI could be trained to recognize anything on the minimap that a human can.

[@Zachsnotboard]

Fuck esports, this is going to ruin casual gaming

[@zookeykneetv]

They are using an external program not built in the game to gain an advantage/info. Imagine a baseball pitcher having eyes behind his back, watching the guy on 2nd base, making sure he doesn’t try to steal. Imagine those trick plays in football where there’s a dude off in the sideline that the defense doesn’t realize, just being highlighted for everyone to see. Bottom line, it’s cheating.

[@malte54]

Sure, but that's what a lot of players already do. Have you seen the how freaking coloful the games of some pros look like? In shooters, there's no way they could miss an opponent on their screen with those settings.

[@Kensuke0987]

@@malte54what game are you even talking about? there's no currently popular FPS that would give you wallhacks

[@malte54]

@@Kensuke0987 Not wallhacks, but advantages at smokes, fires, dark areas etc. just by having the correct monitor settings. btw. did you ever hear of this new FPS "varlorant"?

[@Kensuke0987]

@@malte54 you don't have wallhacks with 100% uptime in Valorant. you have them for a short amount of time and only when you use a skill properly. even then, the effect of some of these skills can be denied by the enemy if they were vigilant and/or quick enough. some of these skills practically can only be used once per round. the AI-assist on the other hand would otherwise work on another game that _does not have wallhacks_ like say, Counterstrike 2, using the minimap to check for "?" and then with the knowledge of the elevations of the map, the monitor can predict and paint a silhouette of the enemy on-screen. this is a much bigger advantage than lowering your settings so you could see through smoke/grass/fires because _you're never supposed to see through walls._

[@malte54]

@@Kensuke0987 With this monitor, you also won't have wallhacks 100% of the time and you can't see through walls, because the monitor can't track through walls. It can just ASSUME where the opponent is. Obviously that's way more broken than using settings to get an advantage when looking into fires, dark corners or smokes. But nontheless both is "using an external program not built in the game to gain an advantage/info". I do see how that AI gives you an bigger advantage, but why would you draw the line inbetween both situations? Why not draw the line earlier or later?

[@reykichannel5550]

3:34 Ina in the wild

[@Rye312]

takodachi in the wild

[@bluesrike]

It's been up there for a while.

[@Trichobezoar_]

Oh hey a pixel bot (a practically undetectable cheat) but now it's built into the monitor, rather than a raspberry pie and you don't have to do a janky video overlay to get it to display on your monitor.

[@anhphan4245]

Rather than better gaming chair, now he has a better gaming monitor😂

[@arrken33]

to be fair it always was like that. Someone with a 120+ hz monitor with low latency has a substancial advantage over someone with a 60 hz one with high latency.

[@blakemcdermott7573]

Devs would probably have to take legal action

[@FireEmperor_A]

So easy to spoof the E-Data of a monitor in your windows. The game won’t know you have an MSI monitor.

[@sable8716]

Ha, the joke is Riot actually doing something proactive to combat cheaters and griefers in League.

[@UnitedGaming420]

They wouldn't have any case. The monitor doesn't interact with the game files in any way. It would be like sueing NVidea for adding filters(Which is banned in Rust)

[@VoS_IReapz]

All it took was "That uses AI" to formulate an opinion. It is ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed

[@johnmarkson1990]

ai = bad.

[@eczplosiongg6775]

Ai isn't the issue it's the application of it that can cause problems in many areas of society

[@Pes._]

Imagine having the brain od a 4 yr old n saying it proudly

[@Yo-ru3vf]

Bro the ai is helping you cheat in this case

[@stratabegood]

AI is a huge issue and I hope people come to there senses in time just this once to stop AI ​@@eczplosiongg6775

[@WurlyBurger]

End of eSports

[@PS3PCDJ]

Good timeline

[@saloscontent]

end of GAMING wtf for cares just about the pros this affects EVERYONE

[@Rigoro-1]

If it's not revealing info that isn't supposed to be seen (wallhacks, enemy health bars, etc) then it isn't cheating... If that falls under cheating due to unfair advantages then so does higher refresh rate monitors, mice with better sensors, basically anything that isn't 100% available across every player

[@stefsot2]

In ffxiv ultra wide screens extrend your camera further making it 99% similar to zoom hack. Should that be considered cheating? People are overreacting, if you start drawing the line here then everything falls apart. How about we try to give everyone 0 ping otherwise if not possible force 200 ping crappy wifi-style network on everyone to make it fair, no more ping cheating with your nice hardware and world location. See how everything turns to nonsense if we apply this logic? It is not cheating.

[@megasora4]

i agree, i wouldnt call it cheating, but will definitely give those who use it an advantage over others. taking league for the example, the ping system it has does not seem that strong off the rip, but in reality gives a player who lacks map awareness a shortcut to their problem rather then them working on it. thats just with whats confirmed. add third party into the mix and it can quickly become an untrackable cheat that tells you all the items, patterns, and cooldowns of the enemies while their still in the fog of war. the main problem is that its taking a skill you have to learn and making it available for money letting you skip the hard work many pro players had to do to get to where they are and potentially giving an avenue to those who already hard cheat to cheat in a better way. (this monitor will be a way around vangaurd in both league and valorant.) just my thoughts on the matter imo.

[@SSXVegeta]

​@@megasora4funny thing is most of that is already available for free. And a lot of it is already commonly used, including by most pros and sponsored streamers

[@CAPTAINCHAOS_]

No way MSI thinks this is okay. Also no way they care. People who want to cheat will buy it. Some. People. Don’t. Care. And it sucks :(

[@TowelGard]

Where does it stop. How easy would it be to have your monitor track cooldowns, range, or show skill shots the moment the first particle is visible (some of the most common actual cheats in League).

[@lukkkasz323]

At some point Riot will have to include all that known information in the the game itself. Tbh it's already unfair outside of tournaments, anyone can watch your game on Discord and give you extra info if you hire him to do that. It's nothing new really.

[@SSXVegeta]

It should have stopped before the add-ons doing the same things were considered fine to use.

[@pyroexitium]

The Ina poster is very good. Where did you buy it?

[@theScore_Colten]

At a convention. Look for @phibonnachee on twitter.

[@Ryn0_333]

Honestly, if MSI drops this for real, I wont buy MSI. Someone will eventually make it, but whoever does is not a brand I want support.

[@alphawolf5294]

what if every brand makes it? Would you buy no monitors?

[@Ryn0_333]

@@alphawolf5294 No, I mean the first company to make the step will be the one to open the doors for others. AI should not be used to gain a competitve edge. Where does it stop? Would you buy from a mouse company that started implementing AI into their mice? Honestly, games should ban these models from use. If the game can read the monitor ban any model with the potential. It won't stop at mild radar and it can probably be manipulated further. AI tech should not be in competitive games. Also, I would almost guarantee that a few or even most companies won't do it.

[@northernpolaris9895]

Pack it up MSI, Ryn0_333 wont be buying from yall anymore. Its done.

[@nolovedrjones9668]

@@alphawolf5294 You boycott the first, so that you remove the financial incentive for the second / third etc Obviously people will still buy these, but vote with your wallet and do your part.

[@lukkkasz323]

@@Ryn0_333 You're acting like AI isn't absolutely taking over the world in the next few years.

[@realElectroZap]

bro's mustache is royal

[@TheOnlyZoltan]

👑🙏

[@OppAIsHeRe2]

this monitor about to be sold out for all onliners kekw

[@Lil.WinnieOfficial]

"nice try flashing me buddy"

[@raniedelfajardo742]

Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should

[@az7433046]

3:29 ELIA STELARIA BDAY, GOATED TASTE

[@theScore_Colten]

You dropped this 👑

[@IBradFrazer]

90+% will say no. In a few years, that number will drop to 75%. Then in a few more years, that number will drop to 55%. And at that point, there is enough of a marketplace that companies will make and sell it. The only thing they can do to stop it is blacklist the monitors with such tech. Stuff like this is inevitable... just like microtransactions were.

[@sauceinmyface9302]

True. Can't fucking wait.

[@Vanhaomena]

Why is there any debate regarding this? You can't use AI to help you in a competitive game, full stop. The spirit of the rule has been the same since the first e-sport tournament in history (QuakeCon maybe)

[@bleach_my_eyes_plz]

People will do anything besides practice to get better

[@lukkkasz323]

The thing is some things you cannot practice. For example you cannot focus your eyes fully on two things at once.

[@SSXVegeta]

​​@@lukkkasz323but you don't need to fully focus on the minimap to see something popup on it

[@LegateSprinkles]

To think about other games, what if it starts recognizing arms in a fighting game? What if it recognizes a left or right arm in Tekken going for a throw?

[@bleifuchs1299]

To be fair, this is just highlighting a problem that already exists with customizability, how many times have I been killed through a Molotov because it completely blinded me while people with other particle or light settings could clearly see me behind the flames. Or the 4:3 vs. 16:9 thing. If you don't enforce your game's settings, you'll never have competitive integrity anyway.

[@nathanielbass771]

technically forcing it doesn't do that either and if you hard-ware restrict things, it makes your game more expensive and cuts sales and the reputation of the game as it is easily prone to false-positives. As an example, higher resolutions are larger on smaller-resolution monitors. You likely won't be able to see some things, but if the UI isn't completely destroyed, it's like having a magnifying glass or scope that wasn't there unless the game adjusts for lower resolution, which can ALSO reduce sales by rendering the game unplayable at times (take skyrim, most text is illegible at certain resolutions)

[@SSXVegeta]

It highlights even further, as in the case of league of legends. Where it's already commonly accepted to use third party programs for advantages. Even most the pros and game sponsored streamers use them.They make some excuse why it's not cheating, but it's doing exactly what the monitor is. It's really weird to me that cheating is acceptable for certain aspects, but not others lol

[@valiantcashcow]

guys remember that monitors can also get audio inputs, son in any fps game it is going to be ridiculously easy to outline enemies exact position based only on whether or not you can hear them, since most fps gams have insanely good 3d sound

[@poru1482]

So its like backseating but a monitor

[@lukkkasz323]

yeah, it's so simple

[@DarienChin]

Imagine it tracks every skill and summoner spell cooldowns and just displays it. Of course you can note it down but knowing exactly when a spell comes back during an engagement is insane

[@lukkkasz323]

At some point Riot will have to include all that known information in the the game itself. Tbh it's already unfair outside of tournaments, anyone can watch your game on Discord and give you extra info if you hire him to do that. It's nothing new really..

[@holzhobelgruen9759]

11:00 you can probably also get outlines when spaming through a smoke

[@ACE112ACE112]

that's busted

[@axel3689]

especially in valorant and csgo, where even if you know the enemy's location, you don't know the exact height or position to get a headshot, this will instantly kill off shooting through smokes

[@LuckyGnom]

All developers need to do to give more options for people with disabilities is to allow to move minimap anywhere on your screen.

[@toxicdermyillunary4103]

MSI just open the floodgate, cool

[@Kidwaizer]

It's literally like having your friend tell you whenever an enemy apears from FOG

[@lukkkasz323]

Exactly, I don't know what's the surprise here.

[@pikachu8508]

I would boycott MSI products if they ever release this monitor into market. It is totally unacceptable for a major cooperation to support cheating in multiplayer games.

[@SSXVegeta]

So you boycott RIOT right?

[@Mr_jz_12]

7:53 Sim racing is actually going through the same issue with the new motor driven pedal sets.

[@skaaaarl]

i dont need this monitor, i have my girlfriend sit next to me and watch my minimap

[@lordook5413]

The monitor will be probably more cost friendly. So you should reconsider.. :)

[@EdibleGlue369]

I'm betting most major tournaments will outright ban the gear. It's a very small percentage compared to the average consumer audience so MSI likely won't mind the "financial loss." Plus they'll still sponsor tournaments with some other monitor to mitigate that if they want. If it starts significantly improving peoples ranks in comp games, at least it will show if they make it to an offline event where the peripheral is banned. Sucks for any online event/online ranked however...

[@skylernguyen8600]

Clicked for the AI 3:30 Me: Gets distracted by the Vtuber

[@nanimuwu]

I think it's elia stellaria

[@nanimuwu]

Yeah its her

[@ElectroWolfZ7]

There’s hololive too Poster: Ninomae Ina’nis Stickers on PC: Usada Pekora, Inugami Korone, Nanashi Mumei, and Akai Haato(?). Yagoo(?)(CEO of Cover Corp)

[@TheOnlyZoltan]

​@@ElectroWolfZ7Man's got a keen eye!!

[@nanimuwu]

@@ElectroWolfZ7 They're there every episode, so i assumed bro wanted the one on the stream

[@daleryanaldover6545]

This is already done in WildRift. Not in a way to point where enemies are, the enemy portrait appears if they are nearby so you would know there are enemies that are not in fog of war.

[@roccosmos1913]

If thats wants to be norm, eighter every event has to use it or none of them... Regardless , this is cheating

[@SSXVegeta]

Well they need to start banning all the pros and streamers for cheating then

[@excancerpoik]

Remember when the wooting keyboard was so op for letting you be precise with movement but that is nothing in comparasion

[@dialectiks]

Shaving his moustache and removing anime girl stickers from his PC would give him a 100% boost in trustworthiness. Just saying.

[@TheOnlyZoltan]

If the mustache overpowers my degree... Honestly that's a win in my book 💪😤

[@X_Woods]

It's up to those supporting their game to simply not allow this, and take a hard stance. They say it's not allowed, no one buys it because it could get them banned, MSi launches a firmware update that disables it and communicates to Vanguard properly that it is disabled... Everyone decides on their own how to deal with it.

[@ngnl_irisoul]

This should be banned, I'm sorry. It's so cancerous. It's one thing for people to use AI hardware for IRL things but to use it in games is legit p2w. They might be using games as a testing method but this is just a fkin cancerous method, ik my choice of words is harsh and all but it's rly that bad

[@TrulyGodsGoofiest]

Literally undetectable even if it was bannable. Plus, it just analyses the given info to... literally give that same info to you while making it slightly more accessible. Kind of similar to having a monitor crosshair too lol.

[@SangoProductions213]

I mean... It's just making existing information easier to obtain. Anyone in the actual competitive scene doesn't need it. Like jungle timers.

[@SangoProductions213]

Now, is it fair? No. Will it probably give a boost to many people's elo that they wouldn't get without it? Yes. And then they will get stuck at that new elo maybe 3 or 4 ranks above where they are now.

[@SSXVegeta]

Thank you for pointing out that we already have this kind of cheating that's commonly accepted as "not cheating" for some reason

[@MattiCore]

I have got that for CS2 too. As soon I see enemies on the monitor they will get surrounded by red rectangles!

[@tallafan4399]

This will either be p2w or pay to get banned

[@NneonNTJ]

If they can't detect it they're out of luck.

[@tallafan4399]

@@NneonNTJ Well lucky me I dont play LoL

[@arionell]

No software is involved in this. They can't detect it.

[@notieming]

@@NneonNTJ You can see what devices are connected to the PC. They can easily make a blacklist of monitor models. There is probably a simple work around, but it can be detected

[@tallafan4399]

@@arionell they will find a way I mean they can also detect Xim and that Just a Controller Emulator

[@Unbenttomcat]

In the terms of fps games. Crosshair placement is a skill you develop as you peak. If they get an outline, they basically get free crosshair placement hacks. In Valorant/CS, they can perfectly counter strafe and shoot right were a defender may be holding. That's absolutely wild.

[@merdufer]

It is obviously cheating. Why is there a debate lol.

[@johnmarkson1990]

some people doubt the capabilities of non general AI to really do anything actually harmful and think ai images and songs are just a gimmick.

[@merdufer]

@@johnmarkson1990 I do agree that AI is mostly a gimmick and their capabilities are often exaggerated, but people will manage to do harmful things with it out of greed and stupidity.

[@lukkkasz323]

Because it's the equivalent of someone just sitting beside you and watching your game.

[@SSXVegeta]

For me, it's less a debate and more of a pointing out flagrant hypocrisy. We already have this kind of cheating, (LoL for example) most pros use these kinds of cheats. Same with streamers that are sponsored by the games company. When you excuse cheats for long enough with weird justifications, you can get this... "Oh well the game companies are ok with it, so I'll add it as a feature on my product"

[@ice_cube8302]

Back in my day people used to put tape on a monitor with a black dot.

[@lethals117]

this is 100% cheating, hate that so many people have no respect for the competitive integrity of games. Weak people, weak strats

[@ultr0shot440]

Here's my take: it's not cheating if done right. T1's new AI is the greayest example. It CAN be considered cheating, but its also like hiring a coach and having him next to you during a game (which is cheating according to league's pro play, because coaches can't talk to their players during a match). But, the AI is perfect for new players. I would have LOVED it if I heard tylor 1 coaching me when I started. It's perfect for beginners. This feels like a more visual version of that to me. And it's fine to me. If an AI voice can tell you to remember to keep an eye out for a gank, because the jungler has been missing for a while, then a monitor should he able to show you it as a warning. That's my take. If it can be linked to riot and disabled in ranked, it's fine. In casual modes, let everyone use it.

[@SSXVegeta]

By their own definition and currently USED example of cheating. It is NOT. There are tons of allowed and commonly used programs and add-ons by up to pros and RITO sponsored streamers that do the exact same things. Gathering and consolidating game and other data in a live display to the user.

[@AVA4242]

wasn't expecting the Phillip de Franco shout out

[@theScore_Colten]

We stay Philled in 👏

[@lazydk2654]

yeah no. This is definitly equevalent to cheats. its similar to something like a macro, and if its based off visual cues, could probably even track ability and summoners cooldowns in lol. I get that its cool to develop these things, and image identification technology can be really benificial in many cases, but my god, did no one have an ethics course in school / uni / whereever?

[@defaultplayer6115]

Great! Can't wait to buy a new Monitor that has a potential to lock my entire pc and hold it for ransom. What a great new era for Gaming.

[@TheAgentPrime]

This reminded me there used to be a program made by a fan that would have the lights on your keyboard track your health in the same way. As your health went down the lights on the right side would turn off like a physical health bar.

[@deadbird808]

I mean if it’s visible on the minimap, it just leaves too much argument on both sides of the coin. It’s technically not information that isn’t visible to the player. This function seems pretty relatable to fortnite and it’s visual ques based off of other players footsteps. It doesn’t literally pin point the exact location of an enemy, it just shows you the direction they are off screen. The minimap itself literally shows you the exact location based off of that same information.

[@Relax_MaTs]

cheater problem is already bad... imaging now companies selling cheats with perifericals.... Imaging then Logitech selling mouse to spray control with AI in a chip.... this is really bad should be a movenete I change org to make a law against this..

[@Casualfield]

Bottom line, accessibility users shouldn't be allowed to play competitive with non-accessibility users. It's obvious is games like Destiny Poo that people using XIMs or mnk in Siege on console are doing it to gain an advantage.

[@StrunDoNhor]

AI may have felt like a mistake on a lot of fronts, but damn if it hasn't been a profitable mistake.

[@PsymhI]

Most game devs already have ways of stopping or forcing the monitor to turn these features off, or at the very least will ask the companies to implement ways to detect certain competitive games and auto turn features off.

[@ThePurpleFlame11]

Depending on the processor who can say that a quick mod and a firmware break can't essentially turn it into an AI version of a DMA where it would be completely undetectable. Using the AI to find the target and potentially using the position of the cross hair to make a rudimentary aim bot.

[@alphawolf5294]

AI was eventually going to evolve this way at some point. Imagine everyone having an AI support device. Not sure how Riot is going to handle this. If everyone had the monitor, then I guess it is fine. No unfair advantage. The problem is that the monitor is probably going to be expensive and not everyone can get one.

[@benaubrey2410]

This technology has been around for years. Theres people who have put mini computers between their monitors and mouses to read the screen, detect enemies and shoot them. This is like a watered down version of that. Nothing new.

[@tylerdavisson355]

The new part is making it accessible to the masses, as well as accepted by the ignorant.

[@AYAKXSHI]

@@tylerdavisson355i wouldn’t say ppl are ignorant more or less cynical because this one of those you should’ve seen it coming mindsets also gaming still isn’t accepted as a art form so they care even less

[@NoPodcastsHere]

Riot Games: "To play any of our games you will need kernel-level anti-cheat installed to ensure no one will ever have an unfair advantage again" Monitor Manufacturers: "Hold my beer..."

[@jenricvillanueva4533]

they're killing esports excitement and the sense of gaming

[@ryorai5804]

"New gaming chair physically correct your aim."

[@chilversc]

Could you use adversarial AI patterns in say the mini-map that would trick the AI into thinking something was approaching, but would be visually unnoticable by a human? So the monitor would constantly be flashing false alerts all over the place, forcing the user to disable the AI feature.

[@Swordkiller55623]

One question i have on this is, does the monitor pings show up in OBS, or any type of recording software?

[@lars4483]

Likely not because its not part of what the computer feeds the monitor, but something monitor overlays above the image it gets from the computer

[@megasora4]

the answer is no. OBS hooks onto the game and captures only what the GPU sees. since the ai is in the monitor, all its doing is using what the GPU sees and showing you on said monitor separate from the actual game. it would legit be undetectable without an external camera pointed at the screen.

[@Yamifreighter]

Good job MSI,. Now make a gaming chair that toasts my buns whenever an enemy throws a flashbang in Counterstrike.

[@Teriell]

3:29 ah yes a cultured individual that watches the holy vtubers

[@Mico605]

"Bloody" did this decade ago with their mouse and keyboard coming with built in aimbots and macros. Thats why they got banned from most esports events.

[@laustkrog1702]

When people use that monitor i wont play fps games anymore...

[@quelldieu7263]

accessibility issues = skill issues = cheating lol

[@COA5T]

Part of the reason I got out of playing any online competitive games. Cheaters continue to get more and more powerful over time and legit players will be the minority at some point, unable to keep up with constantly evolving chests.

[@HallsteinI]

If they made a mouse that aimed for you in first person shooters everyone would say that's cheating. A monitor that analyzes the image for you and tells you where to look is cheating.

[@megasora4]

that actually was a thing for a while. i think the brand was called "bloody" and it was quickly banned from all major events.

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

There is a simple fix for this one issue, put it in the game as an option, then everyone has it and it's not longer an unfair advantage.

[@lordook5413]

Enjoy playing FPS games with see-through worlds then.

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

@@lordook5413 Hey, nothing in life is perfect, but putting an icon in league that shows you a hint if someone has popped up close to you on the mini map is hardly a see through world.

[@lukkkasz323]

This is what Riot will do most likely. I'm surprised some info like jungle camps timers still isn't easily accessible in game.

[@lukkkasz323]

@@lordook5413 That's wall-hack and is giving you information that the game does not give in any way. Unlike this AI monitor which is more comparable to a buddy watching your game on Discord.