This Old School Pro Player Is UNBEATABLE Today! | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck

[@ryanlutes9833]

Go0dy is so incredibly based. Found a composition he liked years ago, stuck with it, disregards proper theory for his opening, and is apparently sitting just below GM from people suiciding into his tanks. What a legend.

[@manthe3711]

The immovable object.

[@C_Shay_77]

Honestly this was ridiculously entertaining to watch.

[@cipherElysia]

@@C_Shay_77 it's just like the laser drill campaign mission, minus the protoss air and drill, you just bunker up and build tanks and watch protoss suicide into your firepower

[@C_Shay_77]

Yeah thats exactly it haha, well said!@@cipherElysia

[@AXharoth]

no immortals

[@jason5811]

Saw Goody’s APM drop to 0 during one of the fights - what a champ. Just imagining him having a nice stretch while the zealots stream in to his tank lines lol

[@Daiyuki117]

Gigachad

[@Underr4t3d]

Not one action in one minute, long stretch

[@kal2352]

lol he went for a toilet break came back and won the game.

[@RadekMacha]

@@Underr4t3d If Goody had facecam, you would see him going to get a brew at his coffee machine and checking emails during that 1 minute.

[@Markty07]

timestamp ?

[@Vici0uSquirrel]

*Never makes the best anti-mech Protoss ground unit (immortals)* “Protoss ground units suck”

[@Alex-pq2fv]

it's literally that meme of the cyclist putting a stick in their wheel. *only makes gateway units* why am i so inefficient

[@natecw4164]

Also being 12 minutes in with like 20 zealots and no charge... Painful to watch. 😂

[@heavenstarcraft]

immortal dumb zealot go brrr

[@dylansevitt]

​@@natecw4164 He had charge

[@KenjaTimu]

What you don't understand is that Stalkers are made from broken Zealots. Heaven is just making sure he can make Stalkers in future ladder games. What other explanation could there be?

[@chillaah2000]

AHH good old goody. I remember him playing a 1 hour 42 minute game and I think husky casted that. His comment was "I made a slow push"

[@andrebrodbeck3883]

Oh yeah Husky, man this brings back memories.

[@ihmesekoilua]

@@andrebrodbeck3883 I saw husky got back into games a little while ago, i should probably check him out again

[@Jack-tp5qk]

H to the usky Husky!

[@Masfeo1792]

hahaha that's fucking gold lol

[@rislingpodiumperformance]

Man went from mech player on SC2 to real life mech player at Airbus that is so amazing. If he sees this, congrats on that man.

[@Floxxoror]

Now I know why Boeing is so much in trouble...

[@AnnoLP]

@@Floxxoror Nah, Boeing is the typicall C-Suits shooting themselfs in the foot. Profit over Quality, when Quality was their selling point once.

[@gnvlnt]

that was his transition to air

[@Daiyuki117]

"I mined twice as much as him! WHY LOSE?!" "Did you lose twice as much stuff?" ".. Yes but I don't need efficiency!"

[@tupacalypse88]

😂😂😂👍

[@bleepblorpp]

Did Go0dy just win by never moving out? What a chad.

[@pyramear5414]

The true turtle victory. A rare sight.

[@SeanofAllTrades]

I see you've never played at Diamond level then. That's all it is. Turtles all day. @@pyramear5414

[@yakunins1]

He moved two times with ~7 banshees

[@magni5648]

Classic Go0dy.

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

I've seen this strategy! Uthermal did this in a "1 Terran vs 10 Insane AI" challenge last year. He just hunkered down behind an army of tanks and waited for the AIs to a-move in until they'd literally mined out the map.

[@sharpasacueball]

The Ai had better unit composition vs mech than our guy here 😂

[@Kingof4pples]

Minimap at 10:19 ... Goody's turret killed another obs. LMAO

[@FordFalcon54]

I loved when the IMBA submission has more effort put into it than the actual game lololol.

[@neruneri]

Damn it Captain, why did you have to accurately point out exactly how old I am by accurately saying where I was in 2010.

[@influx__]

I find it comforting that the majority of harstem viewers are all 30 year old dudes 😂

[@pgam1862]

19 here :)

[@jonsolo32]

50 here Still love the game.

[@shootzmcgootz5894]

35 here

[@TrueThanny]

@@jonsolo32 Well, you've got me beat. By a disturbingly small amount.

[@gyulajakab5852]

As soon as i saw "why should i have to build air units" I knew that air would be the answer for winning the game but i had no idea just how bad it would be. Heavan knew the answer the entire time but refused to transition to air because he didn't want to and then still complains afterwards.

[@dontthrow6064]

Such a weird question, especially at his level, feels like a bad joke. I don't know if I've seen zerg games be this inefficient. 30:30 more than double

[@nightmareTomek]

Well, he had double the bases, it's understandable to try something else than you usually do... But not even Immortals?

[@MrCrownedClown]

Its even worse he never build a single Immortal. Archons were build at 17mins....

[@flappy7373]

the way those two archons saved their morphing brother at 27:40 was amazing. "brother, you can't stay here! brother, help me save our other brother!"

[@harriskulyk5877]

Best comment above.

[@TheLastPhoen1x]

That's a great catch :D

[@DonKerro]

I was looking exactly this comment when i saw it HAHAHA "LETS GO BROTHER! THIS IS NO PLACE TO DIE!" OMG Hahahah

[@andrebrodbeck3883]

Nice to see Go0dy again, after all this time. Btw, when it comes to supply blokes, this is typicly him and prooves that it is him.😂

[@oOOoOphidian]

goody, the supply bloke himself

[@trueskyte]

@@oOOoOphidian that's a good one, just like Goody

[@chir0pter]

I wish that these games wouldn't have such obvious flaws. Like yes you have an economy advantage, no that doesn't mean you can throw endless melee ground units into chokes at a pure anti-ground siege army that features two different types of splash

[@ferret9]

Every game has obvious flaws - just often not to the person playing

[@smallwisdom8819]

Wait until Goody gets to the point in the tutorial that introduces him to the other siegable unit existing nowadays. 8k mmr incoming.

[@damedley75]

34:32 I would like to thank Heaven for disproving "more stuff beats less stuff."

[@heavenstarcraft]

you're welcome

[@user-wo5dm8ci1g]

"That would be a good game mechanic: invincible mothership." --balance design thoughts with Harstem

[@Doubtkiller256]

"my life for Aiur" - the 600 zealots Heaven sent to their death

[@loth4015]

"Wall street wishes it could've taken the trades I did." - Uhm, well...

[@wanderhillen2435]

Well I guess Knight Capital and LTCM were part of Wall Street at one point...

[@killerlambshop]

Zealot puts

[@heavenstarcraft]

my god boys this game made me look like an absolute idiot. GOODY THE GOAT.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

not something you should brag about mate

[@thatLukeKneller]

I honestly think if you a-moved instead od microed you could've won at some points

[@forreal5331]

just watched this. Thank you for being a good sport while Harstem completely roasted you. It was entertaining. I don't judge you

[@SaltyNard]

3 bases worth of eco lost in 12 minutes is exactly why I came here, don't feel bad, I am entertained. edit: 23K BY 14 MINUTES?! I am doubly entertained. I love mech. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this.

[@Aminmotors]

This is one of the best written imbalance complaint forms I've seen so far!

[@WereWade]

Considering how bad this game was, I don't know what to believe. The imba report feels so over the top conceited and flowery + such terrible plays as make moar a-move zealot/stalker run-bys feels like he's just trolling while intentionally playing badly. Bad observer management, no proper use of aoe's like disruptors or even early use of aoe's. I don't even think he could have gone wrong with voidrays. I would even say he could have done some sort of cloak cheese like cloak a disruptor outside the detection line and bomb some tanks and move away. I don't know. But terran design is pretty stupid, like they have all these ridiculously good light units that deal ridiculously good damage to other light units, which light units have the bonus damage to, GET THIS, other light units like the hellbat, so it's no like you can just pile up adepts and kill the hellbats, but bad protoss. Probably played that way to make protoss look bad.

[@heavenstarcraft]

disruptors would've been pretty bad against tank banshee, its good vs cyclone or thors

[@AyothSFH]

lets be real us WoL boomers saw Go0dy and wanted to see how he's doing after all this time

[@Karttibone]

Seems like he's doing pretty good

[@bluefpv3263]

came for that and it was exactly what i expected

[@debostahn]

Haha this describes me exactly

[@Eichward_SKV]

haha yeah I just saw Goody in the thumbnail and Click on the video 😅

[@ryan_cowan]

If Boeing would hire some SC2 mech players maybe doors will quit popping off of their planes

[@CrazYZockerOwNz]

goody hat damals schon immer gesagt "jetzt hab ich verloren, es sei denn er rennt mit seiner ganzen armee in meine panzer"

[@wtfill]

This is easily THE best Imbalance Report Form I ever seen on this channel!

[@foxfox1422]

I have only seen the Imba complaint and I already know how this is going to go Walking ground units into tanks and wondering where his army went

[@MrCrownedClown]

The Captain said it. Heaven didnt want to win his Goal was to kill as many zealots as possible. I call imposter.

[@mglegacy012]

It took my man 16 minutes to build an attacking unit that doesn’t come out of the gateway 😂

[@heavenstarcraft]

i like zealots

[@Shattered-Realm]

@@heavenstarcraft LOL but they are not meant to be used like Zerglings. Why didn't you build immortals or tempests or even voidrays. Go0die made legit 5 units in the entire game that shot up. He had like zero units that could shoot up. It's not IMBA you just bashed your face into the hardcounter a half dozen times vs an ex pro who was clearly a meching terran turtle back in the day. Old habits die hard.

[@heavenstarcraft]

I didn't want to. @@Shattered-Realm

[@chir0pter]

@@Shattered-Realm To be fair, zealots can be used like zerglings, but zerglings would also be a horrible choice to run into the kill zone of a tank-hellbat siege position

[@iangardner6745]

@@heavenstarcraftit doesn’t really seem as though you like winning

[@kcStranger]

I feel like this game has the sort of tragic decision-making that usually only good players make. New players usually get so hung up on what units counter what that they don't improve their macro, and lose to simple "more stuff beats less stuff." This game just goes to show that unit comps do in fact matter, and at no time is that more true than when facing mech.

[@jordanleighton6893]

Bro knew he was going to be roasted for this one, the way that complaint was worded

[@baconindividual]

that goody guy was playing a campaign and heaven was roleplaying the ai, what a game

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

Not just any AI, definitely a Zerg AI trying to mass wave low tech units

[@LawlFrank]

Great imbalance complaint, great game, great smack talk. Nice

[@Shattered-Realm]

Go0die made all of 4 vikings after depleting all his 4 bases. Literally none of his other units had the capability to shoot up so this guy could have went bronze league hero's and massed void rays

[@djinn_tseng]

one phoenix

[@wolfclaw3812]

@@djinn_tseng phoenixes can't shoot while they're using beam, you've never watched starcrafts before?

[@djinn_tseng]

@@wolfclaw3812 why would you need graviton beam for banshee?

[@levin2142]

Didn't even need to mass them - 4 Void rays would have won the game, lmao

[@Umiale]

EXCELLENT submission, I laughed, I cried - changed my life

[@xblackenedSunx]

Wait a minute.... Captain... were you on your way to the disco and thought "ill just record a quick iiodis, before I go pull some shapes on the dance floor"? 🕺

[@damedley75]

8:00 I was wondering if maybe this turret is not random but based on their history

[@MrCrownedClown]

Goody is a real StarCraft Questline to get to gm protoss needs to learn to build more than zealots and Stalkers before the 15min mark. That how he probably sees himself as the bouncer outside the gm Club.

[@oKnuTo]

as far as the S in RTS is concered goddy is as good as it gets. this replay shows how far either amazing stratagy or simply solid mechanics can get you. heaven just did dump shit all game yet hes almost gm

[@ledrash6079]

This had nothing to do with Goody's strategy, but the lack of strategy of his opponent =)

[@oKnuTo]

@@ledrash6079 this game surley but the fact that despite his lack of mechanics still making it to gm again.

[@patrickrudiger8762]

@@ledrash6079 I disagree. Put a lesser mech player in Goodys situation and the garbage strategy of that toss would have worked. Just a little worse chokes, a litle worse tank positioning and the terran would have been dead. Tank based mech itself is not a good strat vs a macroing toss. Goody was at quite some points relatively close to being broken. With slightly worse positioning he would have been dead. It is due to his great positioning that he survived.

[@ledrash6079]

@@patrickrudiger8762 Yes I agree. And if the protoss player would have made 10+ carriers and 1A, he would have won. So i think its more about his failure, than the terrans' playing well. Sure, lesser terrans would have died, but lesser protosses might have won in that situation as well.

[@alltat]

I think it's worth noting that Goody essentially had air superiority the entire game. His Banshees repeatedly went on the offensive and were supported by Vikings as needed.

[@CoL_Drake]

goody was also alwqays up to play custom funmaps and just a fun guy to play with :) i remember good old times in WOL playing with him or you kevin :) but then goody was even fun playing stuff with in broodwar times xD and i honestly cant say if i remember WOL or Broodwar right now xD its to long ago haha

[@erik9035]

I've heard the captain say "this was the worst fight i've ever seen" many times over all of IODIS (i've watched them all, no, I have no life), but in this video, there was a fight that surpassed them all EASILY; 6000+ resources lost in a single fight... I'm surprised the captain didn't flame the dude into oblivion beyond for 20 minutes straight after that fight 😂

[@ArtyMcMuffin]

Probably because unbalanced fights were frequent in that game. He basically took those -3000 trades every 2-3 minutes steady lol

[@Broformist]

I had a mass mine explosion that deleted 8400 resources worth of zerg army once. Game was at least couple years ago and I'm still happy about that. :D

[@DaveTestaSC]

"Absolutely nothing we could have done better there." - Heaven 2023 GOATed commentary Harstem! This was just as good as fake iNNoVation (aka Slip). 11/10.. haha

[@KuscheItier]

Oh wow, Goody. He is my all time favorite player. On his acc there are 5 2on2 wins recordet. They where with me because i won a tank count content on FB. I was so proud. Still have the replays :D I love your casts Harstem. Your camframe and splitscreens are so clean. Love it. I met you on a Homrstorycup and u where such a nice guy ontop the total opposite of rotserdam. Hope your chanel grows big =) Greets from sausagecountry.

[@shieldphaser]

I feel like Heaven went "I have twice as many bases as the other guy, I've already won, just need to clean up" and started just sending stuff into the meat grinder.

[@yesacabbagez]

Can we discuss whatever drug cartel shirt Harstem is wearing?

[@hamster_designs]

Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@-TBH-]

Resident Evil 5's alternative costume for Chris

[@pablovirus]

I like it lol

[@heavenstarcraft]

he looks like an absolute baller

[@ko71k52]

He looks like that guy who orders bottles of champagne instead of Lego bricks or smth

[@retu3510]

Goody always said he gets supply blocked because the number is so far away from the minimap. Goody used to always look on the minimap, like he was in his cramped tank cockpit not seeing all of the info.

[@kasane69]

The video editing and layout has really improved since last time i watched.

[@AvocadoSamurai]

If Romantic chess is characterized by large stylish dashes into enemy lines to break apart positions, this is undoubtedly Romantic starcraft.

[@davidburton9690]

Less chess, more rock, paper, scissors. "Good ole Rock. Nothing beats Rock" "D'oh!"

[@Hordentier]

GoOdy is such a nice guy. He teached me SC2 back in the Days of WoL. I was stuck in Gold and got to Diamond tahnk to his Teachings. Was always nice to have a Talk with him.

[@bennif8120]

See Goody in the Thumbnail, gonna love the episode! Comment and like directly at the beginning, no hesitation!

[@ChannelMiner]

That Heaven guy sure is King of the Jungle.

[@oliverhughes610]

Not knowing how to play against something is not the same as it being imba lol. I thought most of us learned that lesson in gold. Goody a legend!

[@goko-om1pu]

I remember one EPS finals against Heromarine where he surprised everyone by playing some sort of Bio Timing and ended up winning that game.

[@Eichward_SKV]

Yeah I remember that game

[@snarkysnarksson3002]

24:44 SupCom? They have vessels that fly higher and shoot down :)

[@maksymokolot4648]

Sees tanks, almost no vikings Refuses to build Tempests "Prtotoss are POOP"

[@MrCreed145]

Loosing to someone who has made 35 grand playing StarCraft isn't too bad. But still being almost pure gateway units only, 23 minutes in is. Crazy to see a Protoss basically begged to just make a ton of carriers and a click across the map and refuse to make tier 2 units let alone tier 3.

[@superflypheelign]

I shall supply block in your honor Goody.

[@stoobydoobydoo]

It's amazing to me how many master/low GM players strategy against terran mech is to just pound their face into a wall over and over and hop to break through. Can you imagine how fast he could have transitioned to air toss if he didn't throw away so many units and had that income.

[@damedley75]

10:50 I'm starting to suspect this Protoss will keep attacking into sieged mech.

[@liamberthou-lochet6880]

LMao heaven was bragging to be rolling in cash, but he didnt account for his poor spending habits

[@mihaicojanu4579]

Why isn't anybody talking about the opened-chest gigolo shirt Harstem is wearing? :))) That's a look older than this build :))

[@luccaflower751]

"Wall street wishes it could've taken the trades I did." the trades:

[@pusicer]

I like @27:41 how two archons are trying to evacuate a morphing archon back to the base

[@ZeRaOutlands]

Your commentary was pretty epic @Harstem :D "Still ordering the bottles!" Amazing to see Go0dy in this game!

[@Hylebos75]

"Back in the beginning of 2010... When most of you were still in university or late phases of high school"... *glances at his son's high school graduation year of 2012 and sighs*

[@vikingghost117]

10:35 I heard my tag... I've never heard my tag. It's one of those moments no one will ever care about but me. Now I know why I subscribed years ago. I can now die in peace. I made it mom and dad.... everything's going to be okay 😂

[@TheRlyNewHide]

Hellbats are not a WoL unit. They were added with HotS. So Goody in fact built two types of non-WoL units.

[@MartyrHandle]

Seeing the tank line along the edge killed me when you panned to it 🤣

[@AsaWagner]

0:01: Harstem dripped up, good vid 10/10

[@louel9272]

"multi-pronged attacks" yeah sure! Into choke points 😂

[@explosivehotdogs]

Thanks for this one - I just started playing casually after over 20 years of not playing any games. Currently playing mech Terran just against AI to get back into it; beat intermediate after a couple tries, 25apm vs 148. Best I've had so far is 37. That'll increase once I get back used to using camera hotkeys and do a few remaps (eg. Battlecruiser Y is way too close to T, utilize Q and W for armies, etc) but I'm thinking apm is a somewhat artificial benchmark... I guess I'll have to to diamond first to know for sure. I'm using a Mac with Magic Trackpad 2 to attempt to prove that it's a viable tool - I hate mice. Anyway shout out to all the old people out there who are still at it. : )

[@thecjsmediafamily6529]

I may be an idiot, but all Heaven seems to be building is zealots and stalkers; nothing anti-tank. No immortals; no tempests until the end. I’ll blame this on lack of composition. He doesn’t suck, he just is too close to see his mistake.

[@thecjsmediafamily6529]

Wait, if Harstem says you suck…

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

I was yelling for the inevitable CIA transition with a sprinkle of tempest/carriers flank for 20 minutes lol. Jesus that was rough to witness.

[@kevinvoiceactor9694]

Oof only Shield lvl2 upgrades when the majority of his army was Archons. Refuses to build immortals vs tanks. Refuses to build air units because of a commitment to gateways. Doesn't use the prism to find a weak point in the back. Yes, if you constantly run into a spiked wall, you're going to end up as holes.

[@heavenstarcraft]

tbh, armor/shield upgrades aren't super valuable vs high damage burst units like tanks. vs marines/carriers/voids or any other low damage fast attack unit they are fantastic. it's better to have them than not, but its not super impactful as it doesnt reduce as much if that makes sense but yeah a prism in the nat could've been good, i just kind of assumed there were a wall of turrets. even mothership into the main could've been good.

[@emilelj1038]

I don't understand why heaven didnt changed to Skytoss, mass tempest with voidrays/carriers and it would have been ggs maybe?

[@heavenstarcraft]

i dont like air units

[@soywhitelie2976]

This game reminded me to that wings of liberty campaign mission where you had to defend the big laser drill from waves and waves of toss

[@teenspirit1]

Opponent sends waves of gateway units against protected siege tanks for half an hour. This is the wet dream of all terrans.

[@Jn1spion]

I got into SC2 in 2013, I was really into the tight EU scene back then. When I saw Goody in the thumbnail I was shocked, this guy still playin'?! f*cking awesome lol

[@bundlesofun9568]

OMFG, this dude legit played Panzer General by Micro-prose back in the day, hands down

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

14:38 what was the line of thinking here? He literally move commanded his entire stalker army into the hellbats to make sure they get maximum splash damage, that's some insane negative micro

[@pawacoteng]

Christmas spirit is certainly over. Harsh Harstem haranguing Heaven.

[@AdamThePigeon]

that's a pretty funky shirt mate

[@imlyt1518]

it reminds me of the gta 6 trailer

[@gabrielhoelzle8476]

This is the best report form in a while xD

[@Markfr0mCanada]

I can hear Pig yelling "Stop kicking the turtle!"

[@lucasaurelio2806]

Having PTSD here watching this poor protoss try his best to crush a terran defense and failing miserably... we've all been there. Also this time Harstem had little to say of his plays. He expanded, he got upgrades he tried attacking multiple places... The issue is, he needed to go air, and for me, that means it is imba 😅

[@humbertoblanco8656]

or built any inmortal, or warp 16 stalker in the terrans mb and kill his production, or just mining the entire bank, making 40 gw and reaxing inmediatly, the protoss sucked

[@PirateDuckyGaming]

Little to say? He accurately pointed out that the protoss just threw away units endlessly, like he was purposely trolling. At most he attacked in two places at once and one of those attacks was always just an A-move. If you're going to try to break mech with only gateway units, using a prism and attacking in 3+ locations is a must. Real review of this game: Heaven was disrespecting Goody and playing bad on purpose because he thought he could win anyway. When he didn't win he decided to get some comedy out of it by submitting it here

[@kcStranger]

That imbalance complaint was art.

[@christophere5515]

He send all those zealots to heaven..

[@Daiyuki117]

Production quality is fantastic, great job. Great casting

[@louel9272]

8:51 that barracks location tells you it's mech

[@xitaris5981]

This is high Masters / low-GM decision making and scouting, people. This should be proof enough for most people to realize that if you're below Diamond it's not because you lack high-level game knowledge (in most cases). Anyone can get to Diamond 3 if you just learn the fundamentals of macro and a-move. I was Gold 3 and then I watched VibeLoL's B2GM series and got Diamond 3 in ~3 months of only playing on the weekend. And I'm still garbage at this game. If I can do it, you can do it.

[@Losevaiper]

Thanks!

[@KaiPRoberts]

An NA GM was playing toss how a platinum plays toss. It's how I play toss so I would know.

[@adaptabledisease]

Harstem headed to Disco-Tech right after this episode.

[@retu3510]

GoOdy once beat Nestea with bio. It was the biggest upset from back then I can remember.

[@dustinseth1]

“Just making mech units in real life” hahah, that killed me

[@Gammawatt]

Wonderful video! Thanks for sharing your content Harsty!❤

[@mickcraftgaming]

I played against Go0dy in the team liquid open a couple of years back. He went on to win the whole tournament!

[@Berry_Bruiser]

Heaven probably thought he was playing zerg with the number of zealots he lost.

[@mattadorable]

Turtle mech seems exhausting. Goody was trading 5 to 1 the whole match and it took him half an hour to win because he never really attacked or expanded

[@Deto128]

Reminds me of my ZvT (mech) games from Plat league when I would just march roach/hydra into tanks repeatedly until I died