The irony is that the Jags used in Fast Masters were more stock than NASCAR stock cars.
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
Very true haha!
@retrocar776111 ай бұрын
The fact they wreaked this many XJ220s, makes this video rather hard to watch.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
😥
@UR_HR11 ай бұрын
Crazy to see such beautiful cars getting such abuse, but I do remember Jaguar had problems selling these cars, as buyers pulled their pre-production deposits when the spec of the cars engines changed from (I seem to remember V12) to V6, so I guess Jag were keen on the exposure
@cardinaloflannagancr892911 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a totally different car than anyone ordered. It was sold as an awd naturally aspirated v12. It shipped as a rwd turbo v6.
@ducedevlstear247111 ай бұрын
@@cardinaloflannagancr8929also to add to that, they came out just after the financial crisis. That's why all the SuperCars that came out that time ened up a kind of failure and caused big financial problems to car companies. It bankrupt Romano Artiolli's Bugatti project too.
@supertornadogun169011 ай бұрын
@@cardinaloflannagancr8929 Pretty weird since they had just made the XJR-15
@barrycuda376911 ай бұрын
Formula 1 audiences should show their disapproval of V6's , unless it's just me?
@brandialexis785910 ай бұрын
At the time Ford owned Jag and also Aston Martin, so the XJ220 started life as an Aston before Ford pulled the plug and then the project was revived under the Jaguar name, at which point the budget was much smaller and a bunch of decisions had to be made between concepts and actually putting the thing into production. The Aston DB7 was the same thing but the other way, designed as a successor to the XJR and mostly built with Jaguar resources but ending up as an Aston Martin
@corduroycal11 ай бұрын
Dude FINALLY someone made a video on this. I feel like I was going insane as no one knew what I was talking about
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
It's not a very heavily covered topic, but I can't say I'm surprised about that haha
@VictorELayne7711 ай бұрын
Nascarman History also has a video on this. 😊
@jonnyspa2711 ай бұрын
Dinner w/Racers also talk to Uncle Bobby about it. FANTASTIC stories! :D
@jakobquick687510 ай бұрын
The shit over priced jags fit this series perfect ❤😂
@TimHunold10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember it as like a sprint car track
@chrish9319 ай бұрын
Fun fact, When IROC started they used Porsche 911's and ran on road courses. David Pearson famously learned the handling characteristics of the 911 by practicing in a Volkswagen beetle.
@anthonyclarke708111 ай бұрын
The xj220 was my childhood pin up car. Never heard of it and very sad watching!
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
😥
@mnypit11 ай бұрын
Went to one of these races with my Dad when we lived in Indy and it was wild. I was young and thought the crashes were pretty cool but my dad just kept saying how stupid it was they were smashing up all the cars.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Wow, that must have been quite the sight to see live! I'm sure all of the other young kids there felt the same way as you did at the time!
@mjacobs813910 ай бұрын
😂😂
@forcefed911 ай бұрын
the carnage is reminiscent of the Cleetus crown vic races of today but instead of $250K cars its $2.5k cars. It seems heartbreaking today to think of xj220s being destroyed but thats racing.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Very true! I can't even imagine what Cleetus and friends would do to an XJ220 😂
@ikondrift10 ай бұрын
I love the distinction of "There were legends of drag racing, nascar, indycar, sports car racing, and people who made start in Lemans and F1". :D
@sforza20910 ай бұрын
I find this hard to watch with all the carnage they did to these xj220s! How sad!!
@DroneStrike177611 ай бұрын
Breaks my heart to see these XJ220 get wrecked. They could've used C4 Corvettes, would be just as fun to watch.
@memememine111 ай бұрын
It may hurt for us now but back then these cars weren't the collectables that they are now. They could just make new parts and even cars at the factory.
@TheMrmmkkpro11 ай бұрын
SCCA banned C4 Corvettes because they dominated the series. The Corvette challenge was implemented so they could race.
@obeseperson10 ай бұрын
Sorry man but that’s racing
@davidpawson739311 ай бұрын
Right up Danica's alley. (she drove through pit wall and ended up in the alley behind the stands)
@TheCrazyMoparDude6810 ай бұрын
And yet she is still a better driver than you will ever be.
@obeseperson10 ай бұрын
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68original dude can’t even get his fat ass into nascar lmao
@billbreze79511 ай бұрын
Thank you for making a video on this. I've only ever heard of FastMasters mentioned in passing on podcasts and it always sounded insane.
@jonnyspa2711 ай бұрын
"Thunder" was a staple for me back then. Evenings in the garage prepping my kart or airbrushing, then having Fast Masters as part of it was brilliant!
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Sounds like some great memories were made back then!
@jonnyspa2711 ай бұрын
@@themotorsportstory Definitely. Those were some of my favorite summer evenings 🙌💗🏁🏁😎🤩
@MMMaaatttttt11 ай бұрын
I remember this vividly! Oh wacky 90’s ESPN.
@CurboroughSprinter11 ай бұрын
We always wonder who is the better driver in many different series. I think there is still room for something like this today, though maybe with smaller more nimble cars. Can you imagine a 50+ year old Lewis Hamilton against Max Verstappen, Alex Palou, Fernando Alonso and many others racing the exact same machinery in a series. I’d watch it.
@derrickstorm697611 ай бұрын
Yes sounds like a very American sports entertainment
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Yes, I think you're thinking of Race of Champions ( www.raceofchampions.com/ ) As of recently they seem to get more big names from rallying and rallycross, I'd love to see them get some of the names you mentioned all at once!
@CurboroughSprinter11 ай бұрын
@@themotorsportstory yeah but I would like to see a proper track based championship over a season. ROC always appears to me to be just a bit of fun rather than a true reflection of the best driver.
@ducedevlstear247111 ай бұрын
@@CurboroughSprinter yeh, ROC is a gimmick. The best would be to take maybe 3 drivers from each series and give them a rear drive car on a traditional circuit.
@nerdius820411 ай бұрын
During the opening ceremony of the nurburgring gp in 1984 they pitted all the top f1 drivers from the time, and some formee ones like stieling moss and touring car drivers like klaus ludwig,against each other in mercedes 190e 2.3 - 16. At the end senna won in front of lauda, whose performance was the most impressive. missed out on practice time due to TV commitments (as stated during the official broadcast) and could only qualify 14th, but managed to recover to 2nd by the end of the race. Procar series between 1979 -1980 was also interesting, which was a supporting series to the forumla 1 where also some Formula 1 drivers competed against each other in BMW M1's.
@bombfog111 ай бұрын
This makes me want to weep; I don’t even like Jaguars, but this is just profligate carnage.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Part of me guiltily enjoys the racing, but it's absolutely painful to watch!
@obeseperson10 ай бұрын
But why? This is what they were meant for. Id rather a beautiful car be destroyed racing, than sit somewhere gathering dust.
@bombfog110 ай бұрын
@@obeseperson Okay, sure, I agree to some extent, but this isn’t Les Mans or and F1 Grand Prix, it’s a goofy, stupid race for a few minutes TV segment that few people ever saw.
@kingtiger339010 ай бұрын
@@obeseperson This is what race cars are made for, not what a very limited series of road cars is made for.
@culcune11 ай бұрын
I wonder what happened to these cars...were any totaled and parted out? Were any restored and later sold to unsuspecting collectors? Are XJ220s worth anything nowadays? Sounds like an interesting part 2 tracking down the 12 cars...
@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON11 ай бұрын
Definitely 👍
@powertothesheeple542210 ай бұрын
A good XJ220 is worth around $500K which is less than they were when new. Would be interesting to know what happened to these cars. My guess is most of them were scrapped or parted out for real race cars. The ones that did survive likely went into the racing program as I can't see them putting these back in circulation.
@Hardys-Mods10 ай бұрын
right now yes... if i had the money, i would buy a couple of them now. the prices will soon explode because more people figure out how awesome they are. in 5 years they cost a minimum of 750k id say.@@powertothesheeple5422
@James-kk8dw11 ай бұрын
Outstanding video. I’d forgotten about this series.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@zbot212310 ай бұрын
My eyes went WIDE when you said they were doing stock tires! 😮
@Cameron978811 ай бұрын
Grreat video! Always putting out great content. Never heard of this before! A very interesting watch. Keep it up!
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@doric_historic11 ай бұрын
I am British and never knew they run this series. Thanks for The Motorsport Story...
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Appreciate you watching and the comment!
@manga1211 ай бұрын
5/8ths is not a microscopic track, its on the big end of a short track, it might not be a full 2 mile superspeedway but its big enough that nascar and silvercrown as well as some of the stepping stones to indycar to use, and its got 12 degrees of banking, its not just a backwater track, but yes the proposition is mismatched like using a mack truck to pull a bass boat in the mud, or a top fuel car running on the highway on ice
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Yes, I was using that word more in the sense of the latter part of your comment. Comparing it to something like a 3 mile road course where an XJ220 would be right at home
@BansheeNT-D10 ай бұрын
Time to make a new show like this, in the first episode "we crashing 7 Lamborghini Reventons"
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
Now you just need to convince Lamborghini it's a good idea. Should be easy right? 🤣
@BansheeNT-D10 ай бұрын
@@themotorsportstory I am mean it is no Miura so they don't care. XD
@jimcurt9911 ай бұрын
Cars are made to be driven- BUT destroying these amazing machines for a $100,000 prize? Makes me cry...
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
That was the problem with putting hyper-competitive racing drivers behind the wheel! They're going to race hard whether the cars cost $750 or $750k!
@アマ-p2l10 ай бұрын
@@themotorsportstory it's just hilarious to me. The mentioning of a 100k price money and seeing them send cars that are still worth 500k today, just marvelous.
@ZRG2210 ай бұрын
Bring it back.
@EthanTowsley11 ай бұрын
Every single video is a banger it's unreal
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
This one unfortunately in more than one sense of the word...
@Flying_Fetus11 ай бұрын
One of my favorite motorsports oddities
@cuddzilla11 ай бұрын
I watched the racing series from beginning to end. It was insanity, but it sure was funny to watch.
@BentleyTypeR10 ай бұрын
Knowing that this was at IRP is incredible!! Ive been to a few races there!!
@nivracer11 ай бұрын
This channel is criminally underrated.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Truly means a lot, thank you!
@dezinke38623 ай бұрын
Wacky is the understatement of the year. Just hilarious. Love it.
@whyjnot42010 ай бұрын
I would argue that since sports are games, their purpose is for the people playing them to have fun. Everything else is secondary. Also, if you aren't having fun while playing a game either you or the game is messed up.
@pentilex433811 ай бұрын
We need to do these Forza esque races more often. Cars like this get parked and never driven
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Forza-eque is a great way to describe it. It feels like something that would happen in a Horizon game, not real life!
@mafiousbj10 ай бұрын
By just seeing the thumbnail and track choice I assumed drug money was involved, but then realized not even the crazsiest narco would have dreamed of pulling something like this. Didn't make an ounze of sense but I think this needs to get talked about more. Also may partly explain why ESPN ended being bought up by Disney, or why Ford took such a loss owning Jaguar 😂
@ExtraDry9010 ай бұрын
If you’re a twr fan, it’s worth having a look at the first generation mazda rx-7 they ran, it’s got a good story Despite that i have a thing for the xj220 as my dad worked on it, that was some spectacular carnage
@PLACEonPLATE10 ай бұрын
This series seems like a fever dream I would have after playing Assetto Corsa mods all day
@jimbrown509110 ай бұрын
The International Race of Champions (IROC) was created in 1974 and featured Porsche 911 (Carrera RSR) in its 1st season before a long run (2 generations) of Chevrolet Camaro before switching to Dodge...
@americanbadass8810 ай бұрын
I'm just picturing the sales pitch at ESPN with a boardroom full of execs and lots of blow. I do wonder if the wrecked cars wound up in junkyards once they were done. If so, some of em might be sitting in barns somewhere in Indiana.
@casualgamers336910 ай бұрын
This racing series goes to show the disconnect between people who understand the ins and outs of a sport and network TV people. On paper the idea seems more interesting than the actual implementation.
@8BitDinosaur10 ай бұрын
Really good video about this, never saw this series like others here but quite odd to get a XJ220 on a short oval. if you are interested on the future of some of those Fast Master cars well after that show ended TWR took back the cars and 9 of them where turned into the super rare TWR XJ220S and C models (6 of them are XJ220 S that are street legal) and 3 are XJ220 C (competition only) that raced le mans.. If you ask about the remaining ones are those that got totaled and probably used for parts to prep the 9 cars i mentioned. Don Law Racing can actually turn an average XJ220 into an S (since they now own everything XJ220 related) but isnt as cool as the original S models
@MikoyanGurevichMiG2110 ай бұрын
The description of the race just sounds like your average Forza Motorsport lobby in real life!
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
🤣 We've all been there!
@milfordh.mercado278711 ай бұрын
'So let me get this straight, you make a show where former pro racing drivers are in very expensive exotic british cars on 5/8 oval to win 100,000 dollars' well you can see how terrible that idea went as everything can go wrong, will go wrong in today's video was surprised for me seeing the jaguar xj220 being used not at proper road course but instead short track oval did anybody say this was good idea 😅😅 anyway thanks tms for the fun and painful reminder of why we can't have nice cars so see you later bye now and have a nice weekend too.
@cardinaloflannagancr892911 ай бұрын
Those cars didn't sell for crap honestly because they sold people a car they simply didn't deliver what was ordered. People paid for a v12 all wheel drive and instead got a rear wheel drive turbo v6.
@milfordh.mercado278711 ай бұрын
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 Well, i blame the bean counters for this one as xj220 could have been great.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
A painful reminder indeed! Glad you enjoyed it anyway and happy to see your comment! Have a good weekend as well!
@milfordh.mercado278711 ай бұрын
@themotorsportstory you too dude.
@stevebanning90210 ай бұрын
Those cars were meant to be driven like that. Bet those drivers had a blast.
@robertthurman986611 ай бұрын
It was a dumb idea at the time. IRP has a road course and they could have filmed this earlier in the day and shown it during the Thunder telecast. Jaguar could not sell the cars. The original design was to have the V-12 engine used in the IMSA and Le Mans cars, but Jaguar switched plans to the V-6 and most of the people who had placed orders cancelled them. Not a joke, no one wanted to buy them. So it was not like the company suffered from this. In fact it helped their image in the US from the publicity. But the only car they had at the time was the sedan.
@andyjones35711 ай бұрын
Would like to get my hands on one of those
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Me too!
@ATEC10110 ай бұрын
You may want to look into the ill fated BMW M1 Procar series.
@jcg7022 ай бұрын
Pretty sad to see so many of them unable to handle the car. I've driven quite a few vehicles with that much power and it's not that hard...
@Magikarp-4ever10 ай бұрын
Actually I fucking love it we need to bring this back bro with all those garbage thrown out fancy cars that have to be scraped right?
@donstevenson266011 ай бұрын
As with most things Jaguar, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
@brandonblackman900810 ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, these couldn't be registered for road use in the United States.
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
Correct.
@marksmatchboxmemories-xd6qp2 ай бұрын
lol i thought you said fast masters not crash masters lol :)
@cclark39059 ай бұрын
I can't stop laughing 😂 and then every few seconds, I'm reminded that some pretty amazing cars got destroyed for no good reason 😢
@Toro_Da_Corsa11 ай бұрын
This will eventually get a million views
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
I appreciate it! I'm not too sure if it will given that the current view duration is somewhat low, but that can always change.
@Kalvinjj10 ай бұрын
Supercars were born to race. Dying doing what you've been made for is millions of times better than be alive forever frozen in a museum. (yes I know cars are inanimate objects)
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Museums definitely have their place and I feel like a few of each car should be preserved, but overall cars are made to be driven.
@Vorgto11 ай бұрын
Holy epicness.
@cardinaloflannagancr892911 ай бұрын
Might as well most of them are just sitting in storage as all the components dry and make them unable to be used anyway. Got me a 40 year old jaguar with 10 miles on it original gas and tires.
@Gritt98210 ай бұрын
Imagine doing this in LFAs lol
@pedroleal711825 күн бұрын
Wasn't the XJ220 the car that many clients payed for but never got? Now we know were they went!
@ranasneed45111 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with having a blast 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
🤣 There's some who'd beg to differ, but for the most part I agree with you! It's always great to see expensive cars actually get used, and it's not like they set out with the intention to destroy them (although I'm sure many people saw it coming!)
@oldschoolmotorsickle11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was wacky. But as noted, Jaguar couldn’t give the darn things away after the initial buyers learned the car was getting the V6 rather than the promised V12. The engine compartment looks pitiful as the tiny V6 looks lost in a space designed for the huge V12. This one-off series was kinda lIke IROC Jr, only not as well thought out.
@kingtiger339010 ай бұрын
How with all these veteran racing drivers it still turned out to be such a horrible mess is beyond me. On such a simple track layout. People will say it was all worth it to see these cars race instead of gather dust. I will say I'd rather see them in a garage, because I've seen better and closer racing done by amateurs on fraction of the budget. At least Walkinshaw Racing rebuilt a lot of these cars into something better.
@speedhunter7156Ай бұрын
An interesting race series that in a digital form may work a bit better heheh may just make it work on something like forza or GT and then just make a properly modified version that TWR couldn't do
@Hardys-Mods10 ай бұрын
i honestly hate everything about this ^^ one of the most beautiful cars ever made
@bloodykills750911 ай бұрын
Better for a racecar to die on the track than spend it's life sitting in a garage
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Collector cars absolutely have their time and place, but overall I'd have to agree with you. Cars are made to be driven🙂
@4x4ManiacBadTimeGarage10 ай бұрын
awesome
@FonikosGazmas11 ай бұрын
Thats a crazy idea but I kinda love it with one condition. All the cars should be restored at the end of the series unless no ammount of cost and money can save a chassis...
@RebelTXWrestling11 ай бұрын
what was TWR Jaguar expecting? Race car driver going to race car no matter what type of car is it.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right about that. I bet some of the drivers had even more of a competitive fire in them being that they had been out of pro racing for years before getting into Fast Masters.
@jasonmeehan126911 ай бұрын
Similar story with the beautiful XJR 15.
@TrazioneIntegraleAWD11 ай бұрын
ah yes Nascar Supercar division
@DobieMeltfire11 ай бұрын
AKA Real life public online racing
@bowlerwildcatGaming199111 ай бұрын
RIP Jaguar XJ220's
@ericcarabetta116111 ай бұрын
This is like somebody today using Bugattis as bumper cars. JFC 😤
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Certainly somewhat sacrilegious in the world of expensive supercars
@nathanweinfurtner520311 ай бұрын
It was known as the crash masters back then.
@Fastboi6942010 ай бұрын
They cranked UP the tire pressures?… isn’t that the opposite of what you’d want lol
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
My best guess is that it was to prevent the tires from rolling over onto their sidewalls. If you take a corner really fast, it puts a lot of load into the tire to the point where if the pressure is too low, the tire can deflect and cause the side of the tire (which really doesn't offer much grip) to contact the driving surface instead of the treaded part of the tire. It's more of a problem with a harder street tire compared to a softer tire meant for racing.
@Fastboi6942010 ай бұрын
@@themotorsportstory yeah that makes sense for asphalt but they’re on ice, you could still be right tho I really don’t know either
@SAVikingSA10 ай бұрын
Consulier didn't have "some success" lol, it won so much it got banned
@mattbellina548510 ай бұрын
What the WHAT?!?!
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
🤣
@amelierenoncule11 ай бұрын
The promoters erred, mes amis, in not employing one, or more, ramp-jumps !
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
🤣 Maybe this can be incorporated into the next all star racing series! If you haven't already seen it, you'd love Stadium Super Trucks. There are ample ramp jumps in play!
@amelierenoncule11 ай бұрын
Oui, THAT'S what I based my whimsical comment on, mon cheri. 💋 @@themotorsportstory
@charleshulsey310311 ай бұрын
They may have wasted a bunch of money and a few pretty cars, but these men are heroes.
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Definitely would have taken some courage to get into one of those and drive like that!
@SockyNoob10 ай бұрын
This hurts to watch. Holy shit.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt11 ай бұрын
When money is no object then objects become worthless. The beauty of this is it's only the scrubber plonkers that cannot afford it put any value on these disposable items. There's a reason we shake and squirt expensive champagne on the podium like taking a piss. 🤣
@Doshiba10 ай бұрын
Most well organised forza horizon lobby
@4thfrom710 ай бұрын
It looks like it has a mouthguard in...
@AsiaBenz11 ай бұрын
1 Owner Never Abused Or Driven In Rain 900 Million Dollars I Know What I Got No Low Ballers
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
🤣 "Driven on weekends only for less than 10 miles at a time"
@noneck309910 ай бұрын
they're just cars...they can be repaired
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
That's the spirit!🤣
@chikokishi703011 ай бұрын
Dude fck 100k, I'd just take the car and leave
@racer193wr10 ай бұрын
These cars where never going to be allowed on the street in any country. They made them and had buyers revoke the deposits. It was a shit show.. The consollier would have been a better fit they where made in the states if i remember correctly. They where ugly but great cars that went onto other things..
@caledonianrailway123311 ай бұрын
That’s not a locomotive
@themotorsportstory11 ай бұрын
Sorry to disappoint.
@davidleigh982310 ай бұрын
Hilarious
@themotorsportstory10 ай бұрын
I still can't believe it happened🤣
@notamorningdragon9 ай бұрын
average forza race:
@ksln11 ай бұрын
:S
@augustortiz10 ай бұрын
Thanks, I hate it..
@MattyT_8610 ай бұрын
If I had endless money (think: jeff Bezos levels), I'd fund something like this. What very expensive car would everyone like to see being used and abused?
@TheCrazyMoparDude6810 ай бұрын
Not much lost, just some really ugly Jags that they couldn’t give away back in the day.
@michaelwhite27810 ай бұрын
Meh. The jag 220 is the most over rated "supercar" ever. Don't care.
@lplsupersports10 ай бұрын
This is maybe the funniest thing ive ever watched, the idea that this was approved, that any drivers signed up for this, that it actually happened, the course, literally every idea feasable here is terrible by an economic standpoint. This is too funny