THIS RUINED TUBE AMPS: FORTIN NAMELESS SUITE X

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Check out the Nameless Suite X here: neuraldsp.com/plugins/fortin-nameless-suite

[@RocketF1sh]

@@xanderraymondcharles so thats like a digitech pedal but jacked and on steroids?

[@mcchurch118]

I can’t wait for them to give this love to the Fortin Cali 🙏

[@ronard98]

Me too, bro, Cali has been my choice since it came out. When it gets X update, I'll buy a Quad Cortex.

[@Ottophil]

My tube amps will live forever in my basement. But the days of lugging them on stage have passed. My 4x12 might as well be part of the house now, because its never going back up the steps again. I’ll still play my tube rigs. But at home only. My gig rig is a guitar, pedalboard, backpack, and 1x12

[@dylantolan1108]

I just used the nameless on the QC for the first time at a show last Saturday, my live tone has never had such clank and clarity, especially being tuned to drop A and G. Gotta say my tone is very inspired by you XRC!

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Sounds awesome! lets goooooo

[@TheMirrorify]

I haven't played a QC but when I heard the new 5153 models in the helix compared to my real version of that amp, it was the first time I felt that I may not buy another tube head. The models are insanely accurate. Modeling these days is stellar.

[@IWearShaqs]

I like the album cover choice. Gives me R.L. Stine Goosebump vibes

[@TYLERtheMAGGOT1]

Jokes on you, I liked the nameless plugin so much, I bought an ENGL powerball 2 lol. It's a great plugin and will continue to play it a lot through my QC but it made me miss tube amps so i got an ENGL powerball 2. Nothing like playing a tube amp throufh a half or full stack. But my QC is still amazing and love its versatility. And i plan to capture the amp soon. I don't like other peoples profiles of the amps including the QC. As for tube amps dying, you need tube amps to exist and to create making new models just so these amp modeling companies can create profiles of those amps and sell them. They need to exist so people like me can capture them. Sometimes you're not going to like other peoples captures and you'll find out that you wasted money on junk when you could have captured your own and sell the amp after. Also no, this Plugin did not "rip" or kill tube amps" like the thing says. Theyll always be around

[@travisspaulding2222]

I have a great preset that I use both in my DAW as well as my QC. I have Fortin Nameless X on the right and Gojira X on the left, and it kills.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

That sounds so sick

[@travisspaulding2222]

@@xanderraymondcharles It's great. I get the growley compressed sound of the 5153 with Gojira, and the Marshalley tone from Nameless. It's the best of both worlds.

[@420247milo]

Tube amps will never be dead cmon

[@Burnt_Gerbil]

Nothing sounds like a cranked 100 watt Marshall stack. There’s a response and reaction that just happens. For touring, digital solutions make sense for convenience. Saves space, saves time.

[@namegoeshere2805]

I think that USED to be true.

[@TYLERtheMAGGOT1]

​@@namegoeshere2805That's still true, and this is coming from someone that owns both a quad cortex and a real tube amp

[@LuisJimenez-pb3ge]

People often mistake their cabs for the “tube” feel and sound when in actuality it’s the 4x12 or 2x12 cab they are “feeling”

[@TYLERtheMAGGOT1]

​@LuisJimenez-pb3ge That's extremely false and uninformative. I own both a quad cortex and a ENGL Powerball 2 and always plug them through my orange ppc4x12. While I'm able to get them to sound similar, the quad cortex (with a powestage 200) does not give me that feel that I would get from my ENGL powerball 2. I repeat, even when I tone match and used the same engl powerball 2 profile to compare my amp through the same cab. It does not give me the airy push that I would get with a real tube amp. It still sounds amazing and it sounds 90% close but to say it's all in the cab shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

[@voltaic849]

i LOVE the nameless suite. the amp itself is insane but what got me hooked the most were the pedals in it. the zuul pedal is THE best noise gate ive ever used, and the hexdrive and grind pedals are so damn good at tightening up low tuned guitars and getting rid of the flubbiness from some amps (most significant improvement in my experience was with the duel recto). for just 100$, it is an INSANE deal and i cant recommend it enough for people looking for their first metal amp sim

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Yeah I’m a big fan of that suite too!

[@CZitoMusic]

Fortin Nameless is KING of all rhythm tone plugins

[@alejandrolugo3983]

Wow I am on an infinite loop listening to the riff at beginning 0:15!! Is that riff from one of your songs? And which one please!

[@compucorder64]

Nameless, and Otto II II II are the sickest. Nameless for the Real, Otto for the Unreal.

[@ZultyBoi]

XRC my man you've really been killing it these past couple of years! Yeah tube amps are definitely losing relevancy, but you know what's funny? They're probably gonna be continued to be made for experimentation's sake, and then the good ones will be used to make even more amp sims haha! It'll be an interesting cycle!

[@totalbullion5882]

Tube amps won't be dead until Yngwie says so 😁

[@smeemusic]

I believe there will always be a place in the world for tube amps. So long as I’m alive at least a couple tube amps will have a home. Lol. But make no mistake I think these new modelers are something special. They are super cool and sound really good. I still haven’t gotten my hands on one but I’d like to try a modern modeler. I think I’m most interested in the fractal fm9 myself. So far I haven’t found an amp sim that I’m able to get better results out of than I can get with my amp and cab. But maybe it’s just because of the experience I have with micing amps and cabs. I find it much easier to get a good tone with my real rig. I struggle with plugins. But I think I might be able to get some sweet tones with a modeler in my fx loop into my cab.

[@musicsurfandrats]

What did you use for the bass in the initial jam, it sounds chunky AF

[@xanderraymondcharles]

My super special secret sauce

[@musicsurfandrats]

@@xanderraymondcharles fair enough

[@xanderraymondcharles]

It’s just solemn tones Loki bass

[@musicsurfandrats]

@@xanderraymondcharles I thought so, sounds massive goddamn it. thanks for sharing the secret sauce

[@IAmJKey]

As a club size player who uses a Helix in a Doomgaze band... Type / size of transformer for amplification is more important that anything . When playing a decent sized / outfitted club i dont even need a cab (their house monitors cover everything). That is a rarity, though. I use an old pearce poweramp through whatever sized cab (usually my own) for most gigs. I miss my old mesa 90/90 , though. The thing is.... What I consider inportant for feel on stage has very little to so with what the audience feels / hears. Sometimes i just go fully direct and dont worry about the rest.

[@azamaziz4211]

Have you try connect QC with plugin to real power amp?

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Yup. Two tours with For The Fallen Dreams using that setup

[@azamaziz4211]

​@@xanderraymondcharlesCool... Which one do you prefer? FRFR/monitor or connect to real power amp?

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Power amp through a guitar cab all day

[@douglasvaughn9349]

Ray, what is the difference between the helix and the quad?

[@thebuddybud]

Have you ever experienced aliasing? I think that might be an interesting topic to cover

[@Optimoe89]

No one had used Tube Amps on the last Shows I have Played - And all Bands sounded Killer.

[@Prognosticate]

Does anyone know if the Nano Cortex has the same customization? It seems the quad cortex has all the dials and I was wondering if the NC has it that detailed too or a stripped down version.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

i have a video on it on my channel you can check out

[@Prognosticate]

​@@xanderraymondcharles Just checked it out I think if it's your newest one. Got my answer i think, unless you can dial each dial on your phone which I'm still not too sure on, then no it doesnt have the ability to tweak all the same dials as the QC.

[@Bren8682]

I'm just a bedroom homie, don't ever gig or anything. I have various NeuralDSP plugins and STL Josh Middleton. I also own an ENGL Fireball 25 and a Marshall DSL 20. I love my plugins and amps for various reasons. If I did gig, I'd probably do the same here. QC with Nameless, but plugging into my ENGL just inspires me man. It feels so damn good to play that thing. I'd buy a full tube ENGL savage if I could. Fuck it. Lol. If people prefer this route, go for it. If they wanna use a tube amp and big cab, go for it. Have fun and do what you can afford to do. Least thats my take. Both options kick ass and I think thats the current beauty of it. Killer riffing and cheers man!

[@DavidAllenMD]

i agree i switched from amps to modelers got the matribox 2 and that thing is so dope through foh and my headrush frfr cab. im gunna use my power amp at praccy and try it through a cab

[@hierrogm]

Dood running fortin x with Mesa tube amp 2x100 it’s done for my Evh stealth …..this thing is killer great -plug in

[@TheGhostLad1]

I’m only a bedroom shredder/drummer and mostly use solid state amps. I mean I also have 2 different pedalboards, but my main Rig is SS. I’m also using a hybrid amp and it’s killer!! It’s the Joyo Bantamp Zombie 2, and for only 20 watts…… it’s hella loud!! Yeah, the tone of the Neural DSP Nameless should be down right illegal, lol 😂. I’m impressed by the tones that are coming through my home-theater system. It’s like getting dropkicked in the mouth, lol. Are you running that into a power amp or straight into your daw?, and are you using real cab’s, or monitor’s?, and/or cab simulator/modules? Sorry if that was overwhelming for you X., but I’m new to this kind of stuff.? It’s going to be the year (2025) of XRC and I’m here for it., LFG!!!! Sometimes your tones make me feel all warm and fuzzy in my tum-tum, lol 😂.! The Quad Cortex seems like an awesome alternative to tube amps, or any solid states. Maybe X is right. TY for sharing this NDSP update with us brother and most excellent CHUGGS, and Riffage. Happy Holidays to you and your family and until next time….. Stay safe, Stay metal, and don’t forget to riff.?! 🤘🏻🔥🎅🏻🥂🎸👍🏻✂️✂️?? Ps, my nickname is “The Nameless”. It’s given to me by my friend Lois Torres. I think it’s pretty cool, lol!😂😂

[@TheUndeadUnicorns-666]

Nameless X sounds sick, but Soldano SLO plugin sounds most amplike in my experience at least. I’m not saying it sounds better, but the feel I slightly prefer.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Very interesting, as I really didn’t dig that one all that much. It was solid just not a fav of mine

[@paulcarter105]

Be cool to hear a hm2 with that. Either as an analog pedal or capture if that’s possible

[@travisspaulding2222]

@@paulcarter105 Ola has a pretty good HM2 capture.

[@Dustinchugs]

Used my nameless x at a show last Saturday! Sounded amazing, and I’ve dialed it in even better since. Best amp sim out there!!!

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Glad to hear it! That probably sounded amazing

[@rankin1289]

Does if feel like a tube amp in a jam situation practice space?

[@non-continuum]

Looking forward to Granophyre X

[@philipandersen4406]

Going out on tour you of course have the risk of the QC taking a dump for some reason so it would be a good idea to have small hard drive with a backup on it so if you had to just go to a guitar center and buy another you can just put your presets back on it

[@xanderraymondcharles]

i bring the nano with me. also, guitar center doesn't carry the QC and all presets are on the cloud so you don't need a hard drive.

[@RocketF1sh]

no they arent. tube amps will be around forever.

[@matthewmp111]

No bud

[@xanderraymondcharles]

right

[@LuisJimenez-pb3ge]

Dude tube amps are so dead the majority of bands on and off stage are using either Kemper, Quad Cortex, or Fractal.

[@jakeellman7447]

@@LuisJimenez-pb3gei feel like it’s more due to travel purposes. We are all aware of how airlines handle luggage. Plus nobody wants to pay the overweight fees for amp heads and cabs

[@oprasminj3422]

​@@LuisJimenez-pb3ge na they're still used a lot. I do stagehand work at a venue and while I've noticed a decent bit of modelers, it's 9/10 a tube amp. Usually a fender

[@comptonmccairo8591]

Nah amps the way bro 🤘🏻

[@adammercy3588]

Still gonna say it, missed opportunity for using the nickname X-Ray.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

So what

[@RocketF1sh]

​@@xanderraymondcharlesyou missed out on blu ray too. sting ray. all of them. you screwed up man face it lol

[@RocketF1sh]

after watching the whole vid im confused as hell how that unit works. so what do you plug it into if theres no amp just the pa of the venue itself? i dont get it. do you at least carry a speaker? lol😂😂😂

[@xanderraymondcharles]

in ears

[@RocketF1sh]

@xanderraymondcharles we dont do that. i normally go to smaller shows.

[@screamkeeper]

But what are you playing through? Amp-wise/speakers?

[@xanderraymondcharles]

I don’t understand the question

[@adammercy3588]

He's most likely going D/I

[@hebguy420]

Agreed. Tube amps are dead. As good as modelers are now which are virtually indistinguishable to a real amp. It'll get even better in the next 5 years with better ai algorithms and faster computing output. People will always be sentimental to tube amps like they are to retro Nintendo consoles.

[@bozeeke]

Nope. Modern de-tuned metal may sound great through the current versions of solid state and amp modelling equipment. However, the guitar community consists of a lot more than just modern metal. Anybody playing blues, any kind of classic rock, retro 80s hard rock, alt rock etc., can't get all the best professional tones they want out of modelling equipment. While a lot of the newer stuff sounds a lot better than the early Line6 stuff back in the day, tube amps are still better for a lot of guitar driven music.

[@sethdusith6093]

It's not just about tone. It's also about volume. Not every venue you play will have a PA system that's good enough. Can have all the tone in the world, but if you can't amplify it, how will you do shows ?

[@xanderraymondcharles]

my rebuttal to that is if the venue doesn't have a good PA you probably shouldn't play there. If the venue can't invest in a good PA for its crowd, then they wont care to promote your show. I'd say hard pass.

[@grahambrecke9292]

This is where your wrong, qc is great I have one, only problem roll down your volume see what happens when it fizzles out because it is digital. or you want to hold a note for a long time and it fizzles on you. digital can never solve this problem. tubes don't have the problem from the beginning. the rest of qc is great. it kicks a axe fx ass anytime. along with every thing else.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

I’ve never had this issue

[@jeremytee2919]

Tube amps have been irrelevant For at least a few years now. They are all dogmatic feelies. Glad you can take your favorite plugin on the road. That is nifty, no doubt.

[@Scott-si1hb]

Live is just.. loud. No one gives a rats ass about tone at a metal show as long as it's loud AF lol