This Shotgun ALMOST Made Me Rage Quit... (Copycat Card)

[@rangerbilbo115]

I used to love watching these live! But shift change at work means i have to watch the KZbin. Still a solid experience with our fearless spelling champion!

[@IAmAlteringTheDeal]

8:40 ADS or not shotguns are so inconsistent now that I always follow up with a melee, even if I'm putting the barrel down their throat. Especially with the nerfs to sliding and jumping there is so much RNG that even if I'm 99% sure I'll 1 shot them I'll still melee just in case.

[@gavinraw8635]

The only super reliable one shot kill shotguns are the aggressive frames. U build into range and handling and find a good balance. I find barrel shroud on aggressives to be nice with accurize rounds and range really nice on found verdict. Raghnild is also a great choice for primary.

[@cerberus1166]

thats the game being inconsistent. add up the numbers it equals way more damage than that dudes healthbar should have. the game is straight up broken and is correlating damage properly. its been doing it for like a year now. i used to have a clip of me doing 215 damage to a titan with my sub and he still had a whole bar left, this was well before abundant overshields or lorely, and way after one eyed mask. he didnt recieve any form of healing

[@sosa8549]

@@cerberus1166 sounds like bad internet tbh

[@tonyy3366]

Also at the time he was fighting on steps so i wouldn't be surprised if the game considered him in air at the moment he shot

[@judgedeath2048]

i agree shotguns a so inconsistent

[@MusMasi]

you guys playing ring around the rosie around that cube structure at the 7 minute mark was hilarious you just needed the benny hill theme song to be playing

[@philipmerz6449]

I don't know how anyone can get angry about you using Meta weapons in general. You are helping people to go flawless. What is the problem with using good weapons to guarantee a win for your carry

[@seanaball24]

Dude kudos to being able to successfully swap between classes, weapons etc and go flawless

[@6barphraseheyhey374]

Hey Jake, Chaperone is lightweight so you can sprint faster with it and get into the action faster. Watching you jog out there with the hand cannon hurt.

[@owenclaxton8525]

15:00 Man was speaking straight fax while shredding the other team

[@hystike5710]

man the latest shotgun nerfs made lightweights feel so inconsistent, I used to be very happy with my xenoclast IV with 81 handling with slideshot and vorpal, it could kill at 8 meters but now it feels like a miracle when I break someones shield at 6 meters, same goes for riiswalker

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

Lightweight maybe ohm at 8meters 1 in 100 times lol, especially an 80 sub 90 range lightweight. Ur capping, but I do agree lightweights feel like dog. I pretty much only use shotties for cleanup now

[@hystike5710]

@@gunganeseegorgian8042 lightweights could ohm at 8 meters with slideshot but it was just kinda situational cuz you'd have to shoot right as soon as your slide ends so you dont have the extra pellet spread while sliding but still had the bonus range from slideshot

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

​@@hystike5710 lol, like i said, maybe u could ohk 1 in literally 100-200 times at 8ms, but never consistently. Regardless of having 100 range. A god roll fouind verdict, before the nerf could ohk at 7m about 50% of the time. Watch Gjerda's shotgun video

[@ColeRobertsMTB]

Jake, all of the games I play I seem to get surrounded by enemies a lot I try to position myself with my team but I find that they die a lot quicker than me and I’m left in 1v4s on the A flag? Any suggestions on how to play better as a solo? Love the vids keep it up👍

[@crispyangle]

Look for the easiest fight to win to get a way out of a pinch, lets say 3 pushing behind you and a guy is waiting in front, push the guy in front and keep moving away from the 3 stack. One of a million examples but a good one

[@dieselkendrell]

Movement and positioning, I try to follow at least one of my teammates In solo modes, so either we can get a team shot or if they picked I can put pressure and go fro the rez always want to keep the advantage of numbers if possible

[@Cr1mson_Ic3]

Jake you're not the issue, the issue is when 80 percent of destiny ques up for trials or crucible in general, just to fight witherhoard, last word, jotunn, and le monarch on repeat. So when everyone already pissed off and then decides to watch a relaxing KZbin video just to see you using last word as well the frustration is targeted toward you

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

And this guys annoying and cringe

[@peterterpstra4737]

Good job roughing it out.. shotguns can be really frustrating to use in this meta because they nerfed them so much but I hope you keep doing copycat cards

[@Reproviss]

Dude!!!! YOU. ARE. AMAZING!!!! commence binging of all your videos lol vent away bro...I love that crap!!!! let's GO GUARDIAN!!!

[@578_]

Nice to see you use my baby! Ace of ♠️! I use felwinters when I shotgun mostly but it’s frozen orbit for me lol i love sniping

[@legoshi6531]

Ace of spades recoil is a bit funky, you swap to it then you suck until you get used to it, but then you swap off of it and literally can't use any other weapon because it doesn't have ace recoil.

[@hernandez3603]

Amazing intro ngl 😂

[@pirate_duck4985]

I've definitely gotta update Twitch on my Xbox or get it on my phone! Would love to watch these matches live! Couldn't agree more about Ace! I uses it all the time a few seasons back. Started using Eyasluna, then Austringer again this season. Decided to try that cheesy Radiant Ace 2-Tap Build & my god! Ace felt horrible! The Stability is 30-odd lower than Eyasluna, Austringer & certain Fatebringer Rolls so if you're not used to the kick? Ugh it feels bad.

[@obeliskfenrir2100]

also radiant or charged with light makes ace glow with the more affect :)

[@fifthcylinder]

8:40 _totally misses_ "WHAT!?"

[@rhegafd]

this video is a big relief. Your exp with this shotgun is exactly what I experience. Typically we see Streamers just mat every person at every range with guns as you so eloquently said "touching nipples with the guy"

[@francisudubor6811]

Broooo the fucking same. Someone is literally hugging me and my shot gun doesn’t kill them. I guess aiming down sight is a must

[@zebkitchen8428]

Prolly get it a lot but what sensitivity do you play on controller?

[@charleywilson2146]

On 17:20 when you thoguht you had mori, The ace of spades glows that way whenever you have any kind of buff. Not sure if it is intentional or not.

[@AranDomGuy1st]

he won't see this, but any damage boost you get while holding ace of spades gives it the memento mori glow

[@xneykio8304]

if u got full choke on a shotty ads makes the spread a lot tighter then normal, i think its the same for all barrels but i know full choke does it best. so i say always ads, and melee after you shoot even if hes breathing on your forehead.

[@GhostzSoul]

That scream 😱 off screen was hilarious

[@seprosy6739]

I love watching you playing with a different loadouts keep going bud

[@igoingrogue]

8:42 What are those little circles next to their names? I know Its not a clan tag or a part of the username for sure.

[@kxori2106]

Tip for anyone that doesnt know by the way if you run into a titan bubble and activate blade barrage inside the bubble it kills the titan

[@rjjohnston6781]

What’s Fancyy’s load out? I’m wondering what he makes work.

[@badbeen5279]

I love these copycat videos. Just something about them is so entertaining to watch.

[@slmllama1368]

What is jakes sensitivity on his controller ??

[@ultimatexdm]

Any damage buff while holding Ace makes it look like you have Mori active

[@fryler5865]

Dudes.. for some reason precision spread shotguns are feeling better than the rest this season. Still inconsistent.. but less so than agressives and lightweights. Imo atleast.

[@happypie1362]

meanwhile riis is the only shotgun that has actually felt good to me and is by far my favourite shotgun.

[@gavinraw8635]

Yeh it mostly personal preference but im working on raghnild to replace it. It just dont guaranty kills like it used to.

[@NightfallGemini]

the shotgun experience is so frustrating that I just stopped using them altogether, unless I'm wanting to use the lightweight bonus on CQC12 or WSTR and even then, an SMG would probably be a better fit.

[@Emrirwastaken]

I think i remember watching somewhere that wastelander m5 had no hipfire accuracy penalties, maybe try that?

[@torridice]

Love these vids

[@nameholdingplace]

7:48 😂😂

[@maurice27music]

Can u show your solar build?

[@thegreatwhitechonk7464]

8:30 Jake saying DMT/shotgun is wacky, while I’m over here using DMT/glaive

[@Paradox1411]

I don't even question the titan 1 punch anymore, I've just accepted that's what they do 🙃

[@glitchgaming667]

Do you miss classy restoration

[@Ruuinx]

Shotguns got a big nerf this season so ADS is definitely more important now

[@CheezerTheGrate]

I don’t mind losing in Trials since all I’m going for is EXP and engrams

[@chipsawdust5816]

Maybe that's what my mindset should be. I have never WON in Trials, so I avoid it. But I like the cool toys.

[@woomyboy98]

@@chipsawdust5816 Slap on a passage of wealth and get that xp my guy. grinding trials to go flawless if you're not good at pvp or just don't like it is not worth it.

[@chipsawdust5816]

@@woomyboy98 Passage of wealth, I hadn't even THOUGHT about that, thanks for the tip! Might see me in Trials after all :)

[@nicholasd263]

Fancyy having ptsd on that last combo, from our game this weekend 😅 but on solar

[@mayasarmonia3257]

Heya jake, if possible, would really like to see you do 3x copy cat card with frost and zk on first trials card of the week sometime hàhahha. Feel like its gonna be some wacky fun vid

[@BigDaddyBeefPatty]

Duality, chaperone, and crafted ranghild are the only shotguns worth using rn imo.

[@gavinraw8635]

Dont forget found verdict

[@marcuscarter1592]

It doesn’t matter whether you aim down sights or not pellet shotguns are extremely inconsistent. Never use them anymore slugs only for me

[@jonmoore9839]

i hear ya i solo weekly get the crap kicked out of myself for the 50 round wins have not been flawless in seasons

[@Ram-zx1pm]

Bless you jake ^^

[@jaceareleous5160]

You should copy their input device as well.

[@SoSaReaper]

They don't give enough credit to Jake for keeping up with MnK players, mans always on P

[@CosmicAngmar]

I mainly only get 'mad' is when I die to Jotuun or Le Monarch

[@roenick1589]

The intro made me laugh

[@howtoandrew2251]

Dang he only played against three warlocks that whole card

[@NickystixYT]

I love these vids

[@tremendoustripod]

7:49 omg I lost it

[@gomolaspeed4498]

Farm a god roll aishes embrace this weekend in trials made me rage quite.

[@GildedWarrior331]

Went flawless this week it was ruff now about to farm materials and the sidearm if I can get another win lol

[@DreamDeitySleepy]

I felt that scream so much

[@optmuscrimeii8374]

Is it just me, or is that outro a bop?

[@juanterrazas8720]

I wish I could play with u, I have never done any dungeon and I would like to do at least one, I’ve been playing for 3 years and never done any :(

[@fuzzy3383]

Chaperone is meta. Just got my 21st flawless because of it.

[@lSpartxn23]

The scream 💀💀💀

[@Solo36936]

Don't sweat tha haters my guy,they just mad cause they ain't you with your skill 💯 😎😎

[@kheprishorn6092]

Bless you

[@n7viking286]

Fractethyst > Riiswalker, I know they're different architypes but even a 5/5 Riiswalker feels too inconsistant compared to my Fractethyst

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

Precisions r dog

[@jdogbigman33]

Fancy is a very talented player

[@chriswoolard7962]

Whatever happened to southeren Justin? I know southeren is spelled wrong but I'm pretty sure that's how his name was spelled.

[@beauwoodbury4486]

It wasn’t just you people were using weird ass weapon combos

[@mcflu]

Pretty sure ads shotguns doesn't make a difference anymore

[@SwiftieSteve13]

How do we sign up to be carried? lol help

[@joshsharpe2776]

When you make food and forgot you made it 😳

[@Jan-oe4cc]

Pain.

[@thawfps6934]

I love the copycat card man favourite d2 videos

[@treysmith9371]

Wastelander is just better than riiswalker in nearly every stat and can roll with perks that grants stats and utility rather than just pure stat boost perk like iron reach

[@trevorgee5669]

left the room to rage after winning a 5-0 match.... lol okayyy

[@mardenzack6666]

Grenader they jealous that's why they make assumptions

[@andrewbado3757]

shotguns are just booty in general now, its sad

[@sambelcher6769]

I hate he can do this and go flawless making me realize I will probably never go flawless

[@JAY-lz6os]

almost feel like you need over 90 range in order to not ADS shotguns for one shots these days.

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

The range nerf doesn’t bother me that much, it’s mainly the fact that u have to be on the ground. Shotty fights used to, at the very least require some kind of skill with sliding and jumping, now ur pretty much just running at each other and rolling dice lol

[@obeliskfenrir2100]

if you are gonna hipfire with shotguns try aim for the head so you atleast get some precision damage

[@javalavadingdong]

Shotguns just suck now

[@elutheria.]

copy cat card always entertaining!

[@MusMasi]

so snapshot will be more really really useful on shotguns

[@gavinraw8635]

Yes and no. It feels good but at the same time opening shot is good. Heck i use vorpal on my found verdict with slide shot. Just get a good barrel like barrel shroud or full choke and u be good. Build into handling a bit more they ready faster and snappier.

[@karljohn2000]

They over-nerfed shotguns. They should have 8-9m of consistant range not 5.

[@kxbp8222]

are you sure about that?

[@bigdrewelbajapanty]

Ppl actually use shotguns without ads… seems weird

[@bigguy9101]

You can very much hip fire a shotty and be successful

[@Arya_Drottningu]

I have tons of different 5/5 shotguns and none of them kill past 5 meters. It's sad, 90% of the hits are hit markers. I just stick to fusions, you never hitmarker.

[@gunganeseegorgian8042]

Post nerf, a decent rolled non time lost found verdict OHKs very consistently at 6 meters. Of course, thats assuming you’re not sliding, falling, “falling” off a pebble on the ground of the map, or getting side flinched lol

[@dominichernandez5495]

just went aganist u jake in trails my name was dom with the smiley ggs bro we got 5-0 but yeah

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Jake ranting about people complaining about him complaining is weird to me. Maybe it's because I only watch on KZbin but he is one of the least complainie destiny KZbinrs IMO. Wallah is also up there and gold has gotten very very good about being positive as well. So this little rant is odd to me. I'm going to rant for a minute. There are 2 types of complaining. 1 type where it's just venting not directed at anyone. Then there's the type where it's directed at other players. The directed at other players is what I get upset about. But at the same time, at least for KZbin, no one wants to hear it. We are watching because we are bored and either can't play or burnt out. We don't want to sit down to relax and watch KZbin only to hear someone complaining. Sort of the same with twitch but on twitch I expect more complaints because it's unedited.

[@cerberus1166]

there is something that has been going wrong with the game. maybe you can actually tell dmg since he only listens to you guys. jake do the math on that shotgun kill at around 8:40. that is way close to 200 damage and they guy has nearly 100 health left. you did like 175 damage and the bar doesnt show that what so ever. its been happening with primaries getting no regs for fucking days. atleast bring up how shit the game has been feeling to dmg. aim assist and everything has been all fucked to the max. i have a clip on console of a guy being in 2 places at once. shooting me outside on burnout while my friend sniped him in library, but he was actually damaging me. theres hardly any skill anymore. its all luck.

[@holding8562]

The game, particularly crucible, is a mess lately. I choose to stick with PvE for the sake of my mental health . . . (I lied, I need help)

[@cerberus1166]

@@holding8562 i would, if PvE wasnt extremely boring after 10 clears, and debatably runs probably worse. you know how annoying it is to roast down a beefy enemy and they suddenly just phase back to full health? ive had non champions do it. not to mention ads teleporting around and tether murdering frame rates. the game is a serious mess right now for sure. like i dont think im going to play anymore till they get off their arses. i also despise how the community managers cant just simply say "hey were getting reports of crucible being unstable, enter at your own risk" so i knew when the game was running on RNG instead of skill.

[@holding8562]

@@cerberus1166 It is tedious & messy. Beside that, I feel like the grind are merciless rn. I still has PTSD about farming Fortissimo on the x2 Vanguard week and had none good roll after 4th or 5th resets.

[@cerberus1166]

@@holding8562 with them dropping with the extra perks? id for sure be done grinding.

[@holding8562]

@@cerberus1166 They were. RNGesus just didn't stand with me

[@GageMason]

Tbf you just missed half the spread on all of your "Why can't I hipfire" shots.

[@ManMythLemon]

hi monaj o/

[@Jan-oe4cc]

Copycat card hype!!

[@orionedwards1260]

Can u carry me pls

[@guillermomorenolopez8806]

:)

[@murraybrown5077]

Yo Jake would you be able to carry me broke my wrist and hand but can still play with one hand if I put the controller on my right shoulder